Originally posted by ryderjj89

Thanks for the update. Rather keep waiting for the patch to be stable so it doesn't cause crashes. Dont know how prevalent they are on console, but don't want platforms mis-aligned either. Guess my testing for Stand Tall's buff will wait. Have a good weekend y'all.

Originally posted by Deadzors

I wonder if giving Steam user a current iteration of the latest patch via the experimental branch could help gather more info to resolve the current issues/crashes?

It may be a solid middle ground for finding solutions faster while letting the players who are interested the latest updates participate knowing full well that it's experimental and not in it's final bug free form.

Originally posted by -Certified-

I'm sure everyone appreciates the transparency but this whole cycle of releasing patches that break something, to then delay the next patch that breaks something else is getting stale really quick, obviously know it's not the CMs fault.

I like the game but it's getting hard to defend these type of practices.

Either way appreciate the transparency Toby. I hope the other fixes and QoL that are in the works make some serious strides.

Originally posted by rah295

Glad to hear that QoL improvements are being worked in parallel. Can you comment at all on what is in the pipeline?

Also, just throwing it out there: boss rush mode?!

Originally posted by Deadzors

You make some fair points about the difficulties and I feel that copying a character's progress from the core game to the experimental branch would be required. Plus the saving of any progress would need to be limited to the experimental branch and players would need to acknowledge that any experimental progress would be loss whenever the branch was updated, thus requiring a new char copy.

However, if it were possible to release a branch with very similar rules/limitations as listed above and that didn't require more development effort than it was worth, then I can say that I would be very interested.

Originally posted by -Certified-

Like ive said before Toby, I'm not one to shoot the messanger but as someone who can see the huge potential of the game it's just frustrating to see the current cycle of patches and issues.

I'm sure we will get there in the end and it's frustrating for you as a CM as realistically it's not what you really want to be relaying every Thursday to the remaining playerbase.

Keep going with the transparency, I'd much rather you be honest about it then say nothing at all because it's not what we want to hear.

Originally posted by station4318

Any preview about some of the QOL adjustments coming?

Also any sneak peak thoughts on new content?

One other question, any thoughts on alternative endgame modes in the future outside of “beat the clock”?

Originally posted by greggus617

Completey understand that challenge, and maybe this is a lack of comprehension on how cross platform works, but the iterative approach should be something feasible even with cross platform.

The entire project model is designed on small pieces that can be accomplished to build out larger tasks

Originally posted by three60mafia

I think maybe the right approach is to have 0 expectations. Do what No Man's Sky did - go radio silent for 6 months, and then produce a huge patch that provides massive improvements to the game.

The current population of the Outriders, remaining low as it is, clearly is fine with how the game is at the moment. They'll survive.

Maybe take 2 months of radio silence and come back with a big update that has fixes and improvements. These Thursday apologies are very heartbreaking and do more harm than good.

Originally posted by greggus617

Appreciate the response. If weekly patches are so challenging (reasons stated and others I understand from working tech projects) why hasn't that been re-aligned to bi-weekly or monthly patches?

Would allow further time for adequate dev and testing cycles and having a longer set cadence reduces the player frustration from the expected patch being delayed or not working properly.

Originally posted by AtticaBlue

u/thearcan Hey there! Last week you and I talked a bit about a potential bug I was experiencing related to unexpected (and unwanted) weapon switching. I was out of town at the time and couldn't provide in-game details, but I've since returned and logged several examples. They're as follows (all on PC using mouse and keyboard):

Colosseum - T13

• fighting the calloused maulers during last phase; I switch from an Umbra to an AR, punch a mauler and then the AR switches back to the Umbra even though I didn’t switch

Drought Palace - T13

- fighting an ironclad, first stage: I switch from an Umbra to an AR and am about to shoot, but the AR switches back to the Umbra

• fighting mobs, last stage: I'm holding an AR and while shooting calloused maulers when the AR suddenly switches back to the Umbra

Timeworn Spire - T13

• fighting crawlers, last stage; I move to engage a crawler and my weapon switches away from my Umbra to my AR

Archways of Enoch -T12

• fighting Brood Mother, second stage; I switch from AR 1 to AR 2, but before I can fire AR 2, my weapon switches back to AR 1

Colosseum - T12

• fighting perforo mobs, second stage; I switch from AR 1 to AR 2, but before i can fire AR 2, my weapon switches back to AR 1

Colosseum - T11

• fighting brood mother, last stage; I switch from my AR to my shotgun as I approach the brood mother, but my shotgun switches back to my AR. The same thing happens again later during the same fight

This isn't an exhaustive list, but it's representative enough. I can't really determine any set pattern to it other than that it most reliably happens immediately after engaging in the middle of a large mob (for example, if a group of perforos jump me or I Gravity Leap into a clutch of enemies, etc.). But it does occur in almost every match. If it matters, all of these are as Devastator and played solo.

Originally posted by yoshi245

I had a similar bug when I was playing about a month ago (stopped playing now as I'm just waiting on the upcoming patch). It didn't happen all the time, but it did seem like if I do a melee attack, the game toggles to the wrong weapon I am using when playing my blighted rounds Techno.

I too had my weapons on mousewheel up and down to switch, but I decided to just stick them to keybinds and leave the mousewheel alone and have nothing bound to it. Also on PC with obviously mouse and keyboard. I don't use any special software for the keyboard itself despite it being a gskill mechanical one, but I do use software for my MMO mouse though it doesn't have any custom settings specifically on the mousewheel.

Not sure if it's just my mouse or the game itself, but it's extremely sensitive to mousewheel actions. I even set the scroll/mouse wheel speed on the mouse software from what it was at default to the lowest setting but to no effect the issue persisted in game until I decided to unbind weapon switch on the mousewheel bindings.