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almost 5 years ago - /u/Mark_GGG - Direct link

Originally posted by IamnotaRussianbot

Trying to understand resistance reductions. For the example let's say I have Exposure (lightning) and Conductivity and the enemy has 50% elemental resist (high, but a round number).

Scenario 1 - The tip reads "Exposure applies -25%...". I'm interpreting this to function as 50% '-25%' = 25% of damage still resisted for this hypothetical enemy. Correct or not? Or is it '-25% of the current value', which would be 12.5% reduced for 37.5% resisted in this example.

Scenario 2 - Conductivity level 20 has - 44%. Same basic question. Is it flat reduction or percentage of current value?

Scenario 3 - I have Exposure and Conductivity simultaneously. They appear to stack. Is this correct?

My confusion comes from the fact that gear that increases player resistance says "increased", but these debuffs have the minus sign, and I understand how specific wording is in this game. I did not see it specifically in the wiki. If it's in there and I missed it please link the relevant page if you don't want to type a response.

Thanks!

My confusion comes from the fact that gear that increases player resistance says "increased", but these debuffs have the minus sign

The vast majority of player gear that affects resistances does not say increased or reduced, but say "+x%" or "-x%", which are flat additions or subtractions to your resistance, just like "+x Maximum Life". "increased" and "reduced" do occur occasionally for resistances, but are very rare.

"+" and "-" always directly add or subtract to/from the base value. They will only show a percentage sign if that base value itself is a percentage (such as resistances, or a chance for something to occur).

In contrast, "increased" and "reduced" always use a percentage sign, and always modify a value by a percentage of that value This is true regardless of what the modifiers are applying to. They are also applied after +/- modifiers, in defiance of mathematical convention.

"more" and "less" are like "increased" or "reduced", except that multiple such modifiers to the same value apply separately, where with "increased"/"reduced", all such modifiers stack additively with each other and are applied together.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Mark_GGG - Direct link

Originally posted by CycloneSP

thanks for the help mark, while yer hear, can you also confirm how ele pen works in conjunction to these reductions?

using the example above with both the exposure and the conductivity, that would be -69% lightning res, and let's assume I have a perk that allows my attacks to penetrate 20% lightning resistance. Does 'penetrate' simply mean the same thing as exposure/conductivity, so it is added? This is how I've always assumed it works, but some confirmation/clarification would be appreciated.

Penetration isn't a modification to resistances at all. It's a modification to how you deal damage to an enemy - at the point you would apply their resistances to that damage, you take the (final) value of their resistances, but instead of using that value, use a number that's lower by the amount you penetrated. So it is subtractive, but due to not actually being a change to their resistances, occurs outside the order for resistances modifiers.