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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PICK A NEW TRIBE MULTIPLAYERS.

Cymanti, Bardur, Cymanti, Cymanti, Bardur, Bardur, Bardur, Cymanti.....

We are dead...and this is h#ll, right?

P.S. I played four games this morning with coffee. 2 Cymanti, 2 Bardur. I think I just need a break. Hah

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about 1 year ago - /u/Zoythrus - Direct link

Originally posted by No_Suggestion_8234

Thank you, just curious -Why are they a special tribe if they are so garbage?

Because they were the first Special tribe. Midjiwan just wanted to try some new stuff, and their new stuff pales in comparison to the new stuff of other specials.

We plan to rework them.

about 1 year ago - /u/Zoythrus - Direct link

Originally posted by Dumpo2012

Gonna guess this guy knows more about it than me...lol. But ya, I don't think the goal with special tribes is to make them "better" than other tribes. In fact, just the opposite. Seems to me Midjiwan tries extremely hard to keep all the tribes as competitive as possible. But they also want them all to have their own unique mechanics and playstyle.

I can tell you that creativity > competitiveness, but yes. We at least try to make things balanced, but of course, that's not always easy.

In short, the team likes to just *make things*, and we find out the issues later. :P

about 1 year ago - /u/Zoythrus - Direct link

Originally posted by Dumpo2012

Ha, well, as someone who's been playing the game since it came out, I've seen all the twists and turns, and I keep coming back for more! I don't think I'd still be playing ~7 years later if creativity wasn't a big driver for you guys. Best mobile game out there. Damn fine job you folks are doing!

In short, *nerf Bardur* and we'll figure out the issues later ;)

Don't worry, we've been talking about Bardur recently.

about 1 year ago - /u/Zoythrus - Direct link

Originally posted by Dumpo2012

If I had any gold, I'd give you some for this comment...lol. It would be nice for all the high level games to have some tribes that aren't Bardur in them. They're the only tribe that can basically access the entirety of the tech tree with almost no impact to their economy. Boats, swords, knights, catapults, archers...whatever you want, you'll have it, with a heaping helping of a million giants on the side.

Don't worry, we're aware. :/

about 1 year ago - /u/Zoythrus - Direct link

Originally posted by Dumpo2012

I'm sure! Tough to balance, I imagine, without totally breaking them. Maybe if they had a weaker giant than other tribes or something...I'm sure you guys have better ideas than I can come up with!

"All Regulars must have the same things" is a rule, so no custom-tailoring units for Bardur

about 1 year ago - /u/Zoythrus - Direct link

Originally posted by Dumpo2012

Ah, got it. Guess I'm out of not-so-brilliant ideas....Seems to me Bardur has been fairly consistently the best tribe throughout the game's life cycle. Definitely times when one tribe or another needed a nerf (Lux/Cym jump to mind), but I think I've seen numerous various nerfs/tweaks to Bardur in one way or another. At least you can't clear cut your forests and have knights on T3 anymore, lol.

It ultimately boils down to "Midjiwan made stuff he thought was cool and the fans found ways to exploit it", as it's not like he thought Bardur was OP (or that they were designed that way).

Trees are powerful as both chopping and huts are powerful, and we've only realized this late in the game, honestly.

about 1 year ago - /u/Zoythrus - Direct link

Originally posted by Dumpo2012

Totally get it. I definitely made my share of knight herds back in the day, lol. And you can't really just blanket nerf forestry again (like when chopping gave back 2 stars), as it's important for so many other tribes, too. Either way, I'll keep playing. Makes it that much sweeter beating some super high Elo player
I can tell only uses Bardur. You guys rock!

Well, I can tell you that "blanket nerfing Forestry" again isn't off the table.

We're trying to make the other tech branches interesting and unique in their own rights. In a perfect world, every tribe won't need Forestry to compete

about 1 year ago - /u/Zoythrus - Direct link

Originally posted by Purple_Reporter_2174

I don't think that may work -- Bardur keeps coming out on top economically so there is something off (emergent property?). And weakening the tree tech line would just weaken other tribes (Elves/Archers)

Everyone seems to think that every potential change is some sort of "one time thing". We can just....adjust other parts of the tech tree to compensate.






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