[2019] Can we please re-evaluate the idea of Damage Reflection as a "solution" to toxicity?

Originally posted by FMW_Level_Designer

I understand that.

Yes, the new system will now come into effect immediately after a team kill, but it's that first team kill that causes all your issues because it's easily abusable.

No system is perfect but the changes do not address the issue at all, they simply change what the punishment is for team killing.

So while I do appreciate the effort being made by Ubisoft, it has to be pointed out that the effort will be largely ineffective if it's even effective at all. The developers involved in this are essentially wasting their time when they could be working on something much more effective.

The "buffer for accidents" is the entire problem and is what allows for the toxicity to occur and a system needs to be put in place that discourages and can punish the first team kill.

And as I said elsewhere, If I were to run a red light or dent another drivers car by accident I would expect to be punished for doing so.

If I teamkill by accident, I should still be punished in someway. This is why a "Press X to kick" is by and far the best solution as the victim of the teamkill or team damage is the one who gets to decide if the teamkiller ought to be punished, and that punishment is a kick from the game and potentially a ban upon repeated offense.

This:

• Actively discourages team killing at all

• Puts in place an immediate and visible effect for the victim that allows them to act on it WITHOUT becoming equally toxic.

With modifications which would allow it to take effect when X amount of damage is dealt to teammates to prevent a teamkill entirely this would provide the most fair system possible.

I hope you can pass these points on to those developing the changes to at least allow them to evaluate my feedback themselves and decide if they would be better of focusing on changes that would have more of an effect.

Thanks!