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So I recently created an account to be strictly f2p.

Troll Chucker/Brute/Shamans are not dropping Grimy Tarromin or Onion Seeds for me, just Guam and Potato Seeds.

I mean I'm thousands of these things in (1-40's done here), and not a single tarro or onion seed. When someone else is in the cave training the ground is littered with them.

Did something change? Is there some sort of content wall? I even made sure to go back and do Ashdale quest and other low level quests... Any help?

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almost 4 years ago - /u/Jagex_Stu - Direct link

The trolls in that cave start dropping seeds, charms, and herbs (for the Taverley Farming, Summoning, and Herblore paths respectively) after completing Turael's Slayer paths. (Specifically up to the end of the Way of the Wizard path, excluding optional Burthorpe paths.)

Alternatively you can flag those achievements as complete by unticking "Guidance System Hints" in Settings->Gameplay->Information Windows.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Jagex_Stu - Direct link

Originally posted by Maple_Cupid

So, with that guidance system box checked our unchecked, it's still the same drops. They always drop charms. They always drop seeds, yet only potato. And herbs, yet only guam.

I created a *new* account and realized, all new accounts do not get tarro or onion seeds, but all my older accounts do get tarro and onion seed.

I have an older account that was basically all lev 1's, still get tarro and onion seeds on that one (he had minnows in his inven so must have been when ashdale was tutorial).

Def seems strange.

Edit: I beg you to make a new account and try it yourself. There's no way I've racked up this many kills on two new accounts with 0 of those two drops, yet my older account with level 1's does get them constantly.

Okay, based on that evidence, it sounds like unticking guidance system hints (which treats the achievements as complete, but doesn't flag the completion variables themselves which could be referenced directly in some cases) unlocks dropping the potato seeds, guam and gold charms for the relevant paths.

But if you want that account to get the higher level drops, it sounds you'll need to complete Turael's paths I mentioned, so all the variables that drop table checks are flagged.

That's a hypothesis and I'll check the drop tables to confirm when I get a chance.

It may also be that the wiki's drop table is outdated, since these trolls were rewritten to be the focus of Turael's paths long after they were introduced in Troll Warzone, so there may be a difference of expectation.

EDIT: Had a look at their drop table code, and yep, you have to complete Turael's paths (disabling them with the toggle also works) in order for them to start dropping seeds, charms and herbs. But to get them to drop more than potato, gold and guam respectively, you have to also complete the first step of the Taverley Farming, Summoning and Herblore paths respectively (which are unlocked by completing Turael's paths). And those advanced drop unlocks check the requirement variables directly, so you have to complete the path achievements legitimately for them to count. So best to complete those 3 paths too rather than relying on the toggle, if getting the full drops from these trolls is important to you.

almost 4 years ago - /u/Jagex_Stu - Direct link

Originally posted by Maple_Cupid

you are an absolute beast. thank you so much for even taking the time. going to go knock those paths out now. a million thank you's!

<3