Do we know for sure that there will be both 99-inverted cape tokens and 120-inverted cape tokens?
Is there a chance we will only need the 99-inverted cape token to be traded to our main to get the 120 variant? (with main having the 120 skill)
I'd rather grind multiple 99-tokens then just 1 120-token like for example 120 hunter...
Also, do we know if these tokens will be discontinued or not? if no, then i will probably pass on FSW
External link →There will be separate 99 and 120 tokens and you'll need to trade the 120 tokens to your main to get the 120 cape variants.
We are currently planning to bring the inverted capes back from time to time, since a lot of players won't be able to get all cape variants in the ~4 months that FSW will be running.
Can you please give us an idea on how exactly you plan to do this? We have never received a concrete answer, and when it could be literally anything between "fsw every year" and "eventually release them as the 200m variant," it creates a lot of uncertainty regarding whether some goals are worth trying to go for this fsw event for those of us who play mains and are after cosmetics.
Also, I would like to ask you to make sure that the xp modifier applies to archaeology properly. On dxp in the live game, archaeology precision (faster artefacts) is doubled but focus (material speed) is not. On the main game this makes sense because you can buy materials and it's a worthwhile tradeoff. But on fsw, the focus should also be doubled so accounts don't end up having to ironman 2-4x materials for their sped up artefacts. This would make archaeology significantly worse than other skills relative to the normal XP rate. Another way to do it is to allow the modifier to apply to restoration and excavation xp only and not focus/precision. However you decide to do it, I really hope it is addressed. Thank you.
Hey! Since I'm not a product manager or the like, I unfortunately can't tell you how exactly the plans for future FSW events or re-releases of FSW rewards currently look like. I'd imagine that this would partly be informed by the performance of this FSW event. Either way, that decision is above me.
In regards to arch, I'll discuss this with the team! I believe, there is currently no doubled precision or focus (I might be wrong though), but there will be a chance for doubled material gathering later in the event that will hopefully help with gathering materials. Either way, I'll discuss this with the others!
So I don't actually have to take part in FWS to obtain the inverted capes, since they will be released later on?
I thought this was going to be some special kind of event where we could unlock those cosmetics for them never to be released again, just like the highscore events back in the day. It's not even special if we can get the capes through normal gameplay later on...
The plan is to bring the capes and skilling pets back in some form in the future, as many players were upset at the thought of them being exclusive. Whether that is going to be through normal gameplay or future events, I don't know yet. However, the Luma legendary pet and the halo of returning are going to be exclusive to this event.
Hey, could you clarify if the champions halo is exclusive as well, or just the halo of returning?
I could see the champions halo coming back every time, and the halo of returning being swapped for a new reward later on.
Ah sorry, forgot to mention that! Afaik, that's the plan, yes!
Thank you for the response. I appreciate that you will discuss arch with the team, as if precision or focus is not doubled (or whatever the modifier is at the time in fsw mode), arch will pretty much be normal speed which is different from any other skill. The only way that's not true is if restoration and excavation xp are doubled/multiplied, which is not how I thought they'd do it but I guess that works too. Just really hope it's not neither.
Just had a check and restoration and excavation XP are multiplied, just like every other skill :)
If I want to get Luma or the Halo of Returning on my current account is there a way to get it?
EDIT: Looks like the Halo will be Tradeable but not Luma?
Yeah, that's right!
So Luma is completely impossible to obtain on my main account and will never be obtainable in any shape or form?
Yes, it is intended as an indicator of "This account was definitely here for FSW.", as most other rewards can be traded to players who weren't actually involved.
Will we be able to trade the halos to our Ironman account? I noticed I’m not able to put an offer in on the GE, unlike the platinum nex tokens, etc.
It will be possible to trade FSW rewards to your ironman via direct player-to-player trading. :)
Hoping for a clarification, when you say exclusive to this event does that mean to any future FSW as well or only to this specific FSW and there won't be any way in the future to obtain new halo of returning making it discontinued?
Hi, our (as in the team that designed the specifics of FSW) plan was to make those exclusive to this specific run of FSW.
Things is, you can take my word for it, but I ultimately don't have the power to 100% guarantee that this will definitely be the case, as I'm not in a leadership position.
Thank you for the reply, I understand there can never be any absolutes and will keep that in mind :)
Also really had a great time on FSW. It was a refreshing way to play rs3 from the start to revisit the heights of progression once again, was sad when it ended but look forward to more game modes like this.
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
JagexFrosch, are you saying the plan is for Halo of Returning and Challenger Halo to be discontinued after this event?
In future FSW events, there will be new unique rewards then?
Hi! The plan was for the Halo of Returning and Luma to be the only exclusive/discontinued 'items' and the Challenger Halo being obtainable through similar competitive periods in the future. However, as I mentioned in another comment recently, I can't guarantee that this plan will be followed in the future, since I don't have the power to overwrite higher-up's decisions if they would like to use these items in the future in some way.
Thanks for the clarification. I was wondering what the thought process was behind the plan to make Halo of Returning discontinued and the Challenger halo being obtainable again through similar competitive periods in the future. Could you elaborate a bit on that? And understood about the possibility that those plans can be changed!
The idea was to, in the case that we regularly run FSW events, give all players a new reward to chase every time with the milestone hunt style system, while giving more players another shot at the established, more sparse competitive reward every time.
u/JagexFrosch Ditto to Giveme's comment above. I've already left survey feedback, but rereleasing the same Challenger Halo would be boring and is a sure way to reduce the likelihood of people wanting to compete/participate in FSW again. Part of the excitement was due to the novelty/exclusivity of these items, so I'd strongly suggest the development team consider brand new items and abilities (I'm sure the survey data will also be informative).
I would suggest a new Challenger item, a Challenger amulet/necklace/pendant, and perhaps an entirely new item that can be earned. I think it would be fine to reintroduce the same skilling capes, and inverted master capes, and pets. I would also suggest a new version of the skilling pets, and perhaps just make the chances of unlocking the old halo pets based on chance.
Maybe, the new item replacing the Halo of Returning could be the Black Partyhat? The Halo of Returning was a cool homeage to the Disk of Returning. Introducing a new Black Partyhat as an item that requires 8 shards, and marketing it as one of the prizes will absolutely increase the amount of activity, and desire for players to participate in FSW in the future.
I don't want to highjack this reddit thread, but I think it would be great if Jagex could possibly start a thread on the Runescape Official Forums to collect feedback from players and incorporate them in the conversation when they're looking to reimplement FSW (or something similar) in the future.
Thanks for the feedback! I'd imagine we'd run a survey if/when we start preparing for another run of FSW. I'll remember this comment for if/when the time comes :)
That makes sense, thanks! Will FSW be run again in 2023?
Leadership hasn't communicated any decisions regarding future FSW or similar events yet, so not sure.
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