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Hi Reddit,

We've added our tiered definitions to the Comp Cape design

You can see the design here - rs.game/compdesign

As a TL:DR here's what's changed / new

  • We're renaming the Exploration Category to Areas
  • We're renaming the Minigames Category to Activities
  • We're removing Misc as a requirement for Comp and the category won't be tiered

Our initial definition for what tiered completionism will look like is

  • Tier 1 (The Completionist) A player who has completed the core runescape experience
  • Tier 2 (The True Completionist) A player who has completed everything EXCEPT insane achievements
  • Tier 3 (The Insane Completionist) A player who has completed everything, and everything insane we've thrown at them.

For more info, a more detailed breakdown of the tiers in categories and our definition of 'insane' achievements have a look on the updated design doc here - rs.game/compdesign

We've also put some examples of where current achievements would go in the new system. You can see this example sheet here - rs.game/compachievements

Our example doesn't contain every achievement, but we'll be adding more to it to provide clarity and context. If you think any achievements on the sheet are currently in the wrong category, or in the wrong tier please tell us why you think that. We're very open to feedback and will likely move several achievements around based on your feedback.

We love your feedback and will continue to shape this update with you. If you like, dislike, worry about or have an idea or opinion on anything here, please tell us, on this thread, our discord or tweet us @JagexTomb & @JagexBreezy <3

Mod Tomb and the Four Direction Team

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over 5 years ago - /u/JagexBreezy - Direct link

Originally posted by Tyki_Mikk

Super minor, but I like exploration over areas, just sounds nicer.

In general, still happy with how this is progressing and the idea nothing should be worse than 1k telos or castle wars. Also keeping skills at 120 all for insane which is an actual level instead of 200m all which only exists because of coding stuff instead being a meaning cutoff. There can still be niche rewards for those players who go farther like golden warden.

I think the three tiers of comp are really nice as well and well defined. Ready to see concept art.

For pvm, as long as group bosses aren't removed entirely (which they don't seem to be going that direction), I'm happy whether it's t1 or t2. I think it should stay t1, but compromising on tier 2 is fine.

Thanks for the feedback! Will relay to the team :)

over 5 years ago - /u/JagexBreezy - Direct link

Originally posted by Jona_than

"Tier 3 Combat - All combat achievements (including ones that are insane, but nothing harder than 1k enrage Telos)"

Can't be that insane if it can't be harder than 1k enr telos lmao

Curious as to what you think the Telos enrage cap should be here? Remember though that even T3 has to have an upper limit!

over 5 years ago - /u/JagexBreezy - Direct link

Originally posted by 5-x

Now a matter of deciding on what classifies as "insane" and what doesn't. I suspect this is going to be hotly debated.

Also, shouldn't 120 Slayer, Dg, and Invention be t2 skilling? Wasn't t1 skilling supposed to be effectively max cape?

I still think recognising virtual 120s makes no sense.

Edit: Wait, current trimmed comp will now require warden? That's ridiculous...

120 Slayer/DG/Invention were put there as thats the "entry" to Comp currently (not that it has to be exactly as comp is now) but it made sense to put the actual 120's at Tier 1.

One of the issues is it "cheapens" the current entry since Max and Comp skill reqs are different right now.

The other reason is because we first said we'd remove Max and replace with T1 skilling, then from feedback we said we'd keep max. We felt like this is a good way to preserve both. More feedback welcome on that though!

Edit: others have replied to your comment with good reasons too

over 5 years ago - /u/JagexBreezy - Direct link

Originally posted by Ik_oClock

I have some suggestions for quest achievements that are not in the current system (SE replay outfit), but:

Why is Nomad replay in the combat and not lore section?

Feel free to give us your suggestions, as a reminder that spreadsheet doesn't contain every current existing achievement.

Also im unsure about the Nomad one, if it's the purple/gold timed capes then they should probably be on combat. If there's another Nomad achievement that suits Lore more, let us know!

over 5 years ago - /u/JagexBreezy - Direct link

Originally posted by PrimalMoose

I like the idea of splitting up the group bosses and the "normal" bosses, but concerned about how you would then deal with the inevitable comp cape stats debate. You'd almost have to have an increment above current max cape for the t1 comp, followed by another small bump once the group bosses are completed?

I believe the intent is that if group bosses were on T2, then stats would be split or follow T2 in this case

over 5 years ago - /u/JagexBreezy - Direct link

Originally posted by ImRubic

I remember when Minigames used to be called Minigames, then it was renamed to Activities, then Jagex forgot they did that so they defaulted back to Minigames.

So my question is, are we going back to the Activities name for good now or is this a general category name for things beyond just minigames and D&Ds (things that don't fall into other categories)?

Some things did not fit into the definition of a minigame, so it needed to be adjusted to allow for things such as DnD's and whatnot

over 5 years ago - /u/JagexBreezy - Direct link

Originally posted by RS_Horrors

I think 4k enrage Telos should be insane requirement. Even though I don't think I'll ever accomplish that feat, it'd be cool to see something really prestigious

Whilst i definitely see where you're coming from, we think there should be an upper limit to even T3. Essentially 4k would be an imaginary "T4" achievement despite not being recognised here. It is of course currently recognised by the title

over 5 years ago - /u/JagexBreezy - Direct link

Originally posted by RoskatRS

Broken home challenges insane? Is this a joke? If you are able to complete all quests, then you are able to do those challenges, with or without guide. If it had to be completed in 19mins, then sure

10000 Corrupted creatures insane=afk for 10-11 hours

Please remember none of these are final, and we can literally just select an achievement on the spreadsheet, and drag it into a more appropriate tier :P Let us know which ones you think should be shuffled around and we'll collate the feedback

over 5 years ago - /u/JagexBreezy - Direct link

Originally posted by kunair

Leave it as "exploration" pls, it sounds so much better ty

Will relay to the team :)

over 5 years ago - /u/JagexBreezy - Direct link

Originally posted by Xenon_Ray

with the current spreadsheet, t3 lore and combat are terribly underwhelming, it's basically free for anyone who wants t3s, would definitely like to know the reason for putting such relatively easy achievements on t3, as that would probably be the base for the new reqs on it

Feel free to suggest what you think it should look like, thats why we've posted this! :P

Also remember that the list there doesn't cover every existing achievement, we've only put those ones as examples