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| 0s | we've been in on we've we've |
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| 4s | um oh boy this is going to be a |
| 7s | video hey everyone my name is snot I am |
| 9s | the community manager at coffee stain |
| 11s | Studios long time no see we haven't seen |
| 14s | each other for a while because uh I |
| 16s | haven't been |
| 17s | uploading and I've been grinding the |
| 19s | patch notes video which I'm really |
| 20s | looking forward to releasing uh coming |
| 23s | soon anyways I that's kind of what I |
| 25s | want to talk about actually today uh I |
| 27s | kind of wanted to sort of well you've |
| 29s | read the title I want to announce when |
| 30s | when um update 8 is coming out on the |
| 32s | Early Access Branch so yeah we're |
| 34s | finally ready to release update 8 on the |
| 35s | Early Access Branch we've been on the |
| 37s | experimental Branch for you know |
| 40s | billions and billions of years we've |
| 42s | been sort of hard at work finishing up |
| 43s | the last few things but we feel happy |
| 45s | with the state of things and we're |
| 47s | finally ready to move it over so when is |
| 48s | it SN when is the date when is it coming |
| 50s | out you're probably screaming right now |
| 52s | cuz we're probably like an hour into the |
| 54s | video already and I still haven't said |
| 56s | anything November 14th is going to be |
| 58s | the DAT of |
| 63s | Reckoning yeah November 14th which is |
| 65s | next week uh kind of like last second |
| 68s | announcement I guess but that's sort of |
| 69s | how it is you you've probably been here |
| 70s | before you know how it is so so that's |
| 72s | just how the cookie crumbles sometimes |
| 74s | so yeah next week November 14th is when |
| 76s | we're going to be releasing update on |
| 77s | the experimental Branch now that's dope |
| 82s | but I've got some really important |
| 84s | information to share with you all in |
| 86s | this video uh so so let's do it okay so |
| 90s | if you followed us here on YouTube and |
| 91s | on on Twitch and whatever you probably |
| 93s | know everything that's going into update |
| 95s | one thing we haven't talked too much |
| 96s | about is a new addition and update that |
| 98s | came in kind of late in during |
| 99s | experimental and that is that we have |
| 101s | updated our online subsystem for the |
| 103s | game now what is this online subsystem |
| 106s | you might be asking yourself so when it |
| 107s | comes to the online aspect of our game |
| 109s | there's sort of two layers to this right |
| 110s | there's the lowlevel stuff which is |
| 113s | handling like the actual like sending |
| 114s | data and like handling you know the UDP |
| 117s | request and and all that stuff um that's |
| 119s | all handled by Epic and like their SDK |
| 121s | and all that and we're taking |
| 122s | advantage of that and dopes up glad that |
| 125s | we don't have to deal with that and then |
| 126s | we have sort of the top layer on top of |
| 128s | that and that is our online subsystem |
| 130s | and that system sort of takes care of |
| 131s | stuff like you know when you're logging |
| 133s | into steam it's grabbing your friends |
| 134s | list uh being able to like send invites |
| 137s | to your friends to the game um if you |
| 139s | have an epic account and you want to |
| 141s | link that on Steam you can do that and |
| 143s | you know that sort of handled in that |
| 144s | like top layer and that layer has been |
| 146s | sort of reworked in up to dat and it |
| 148s | came in like I said kind of late you may |
| 149s | have seen like the that the UI in the |
| 151s | menus and stuff have changed uh and |
| 153s | that's along with like the changes that |
| 155s | are coming with that system uh now it's |
| 157s | really important to to take note of that |
| 159s | that system is still a little bit |
| 160s | working progress and it's going to be a |
| 162s | bit working progress once update hits EA |
| 164s | as well so why would we push a working |
| 167s | progress system well I'm going to |
| 168s | explain that real quick okay one of the |
| 169s | reasons why we needed to update this |
| 171s | system was because it was old as hell we |
| 172s | haven't changed that system since pretty |
| 174s | much the steam launch and it was way |
| 177s | overdue to be reworked uh and we we felt |
| 180s | that like during update now is the |
| 182s | perfect time to do it another reason we |
| 184s | also needed to update the system was |
| 185s | because in the back end when we were |
| 186s | handling authentication with the |
| 187s | different online services uh that needed |
| 190s | to be updated and that needed to happen |
| 192s | before December this year so we sort of |
| 195s | saw that as like an opportunity like |
| 196s | let's rework the system let's update it |
| 199s | with the authentication that's needed |
| 201s | and then get it all out in one go so to |
| 203s | speak another reason is also sort of |
| 205s | that like by implementing that system |
| 207s | we're also setting us up for future work |
| 209s | that's going to go into that system |
| 211s | that's going to improve over time so we |
| 212s | felt that now is the perfect time to |
| 214s | sort of get those two things in at the |
| 215s | same time while also being able to set |
| 217s | us up for future work that's going to go |
| 219s | into that to be able to like extend the |
| 220s | functionality of the online sell system |
| 222s | because that's something we felt we |
| 223s | couldn't really do with the old system |
| 225s | without reworking it we felt that we |
| 226s | couldn't add new features to it you know |
| 229s | um so that's sort of the reasoning |
| 231s | behind adding that system in in the |
| 233s | first place but development is a finicky |
| 235s | thing and we didn't have time to fully |
| 238s | finish that system before we need needed |
| 240s | to to push it out so we've decided to |
| 243s | sort of push up toate with the current |
| 245s | implementation of that system uh to EA |
| 248s | and then we'll keep working on the |
| 249s | online subsystem on experimental for a |
| 252s | bit uh so we can test it and all that |
| 254s | stuff and then once we get to a good |
| 255s | spot with the new online subsystem will |
| 257s | update uh the game once again on EA with |
| 260s | those new features essentially so while |
| 262s | that new online subsystem is sort of |
| 264s | working progress we still feel that it's |
| 265s | quite stable it's good enough for us to |
| 267s | be able to to release up to dat to Early |
| 269s | Access |
| 270s | and then we'll keep working on the the |
| 272s | online s system uh on the experimental |
| 274s | branch and then keep working on it and |
| 276s | then once we feel that it it's come to a |
| 278s | good State then we'll update the game |
| 280s | again with the new features that's |
| 281s | coming in the online subsystem um and |
| 284s | then we'll be Gucci so here are a couple |
| 286s | of known issues when it comes to the |
| 287s | state of the online s system like most |
| 289s | of the functionality is there um but |
| 291s | there are a couple of things to like be |
| 292s | aware of at least when it comes to this |
| 294s | stuff so one known issue is a bug that's |
| 296s | been in the game since launch so this |
| 298s | isn't anything new or anything like that |
| 300s | that the way the game sort of like |
| 301s | decides who you should uh spawn as like |
| 304s | which character is based on your session |
| 306s | ID so that's your online ID and if you |
| 309s | forever reason fail to connect to the |
| 311s | services or if you're playing offline or |
| 312s | whatever the game doesn't know like who |
| 314s | you are in the world and it will spawn |
| 316s | you as a new character there's a couple |
| 317s | of reasons why we've designed the system |
| 319s | to be in this way uh and have these like |
| 321s | unfortunate trade-offs but one is that |
| 323s | we want to have like one seamless uh |
| 325s | online connectivity sort of experience |
| 328s | so like being handling the game as one |
| 330s | online game is is easier to handle like |
| 332s | when people are connecting and and |
| 334s | seamlessly be able to connect and all |
| 335s | that stuff uh the other reason is |
| 337s | because we wanted to be able to like |
| 338s | when you're having your save file you |
| 339s | should be able to like use your one save |
| 341s | file and send it over your friend and |
| 342s | like being able to like determine like |
| 344s | who what person were in the safe file |
| 346s | and still connect and all that stuff and |
| 348s | that's possible by doing it this way uh |
| 350s | but the trade-off of course is that if |
| 352s | we don't have your online ID then we |
| 354s | don't know who you are essentially in |
| 355s | the safe file so in that case you will |
| 356s | spawn as a new character in The Hub um |
| 359s | you can still get your inventory back if |
| 362s | you go over to your where you last save |
| 364s | and and take care of business if you |
| 367s | know what I'm saying very violently |
| 373s | okay so if you do that you can get your |
| 376s | inventory back uh the unfortunate thing |
| 378s | is that you will probably lose out your |
| 380s | hot bar which sucks also if last time |
| 382s | you Sav you in a vehicle uh you won't be |
| 385s | able to dismantle that vehicle and you |
| 386s | won't be able to get the player out the |
| 388s | only way to solve it at the moment is to |
| 389s | use a editor it's really annoying and uh |
| 393s | we're not proud of that bug but we are |
| 395s | going to in the future do something |
| 397s | about it so like you can eject the |
| 398s | player from vehicles and stuff like that |
| 399s | and the reason I'm telling you about |
| 400s | this bug is because there might be some |
| 402s | edge cases where you might start the |
| 405s | game offline without realizing it and |
| 407s | that happens so if that happens uh it's |
| 410s | probably due to like the service either |
| 412s | either failing to sign you in and |
| 414s | getting you know proper authentication |
| 416s | and stuff like that for the online |
| 417s | services um and the way to resolve that |
| 420s | is to to restart the game and one |
| 423s | particular case when this can happen is |
| 424s | when you first start the game from |
| 426s | updating the first time because the game |
| 428s | sort of takes longer uh in the initial |
| 430s | boot to do a lot a lot of stuff in the |
| 433s | back end uh such as like building |
| 434s | shaders and stuff like that so it takes |
| 436s | longer for the game to boot up the first |
| 437s | time um and what happens then is you |
| 439s | might time out when you're trying to |
| 440s | connect and fail the sort of signin |
| 443s | process essentially to the services and |
| 445s | and yeah the way to circumvent that is |
| 447s | to just restart the game again after the |
| 449s | initial Boot and then hopefully that |
| 451s | will sort of uh resolve the issue and |
| 453s | you should be online again and you |
| 454s | shouldn't run into that offline issue |
| 456s | we're going to address that issue in the |
| 457s | future we actually have a pretty |
| 458s | involved solution in mind where you can |
| 460s | like sort of pick who to spawn as in the |
| 463s | future potentially uh we'll see how that |
| 465s | goes but we have a solution in mind it's |
| 467s | just that it's it's been taking us a bit |
| 469s | to to sort of get to that and now that |
| 471s | we have this new online subsystem in the |
| 473s | in in place that sort of sets us up to |
| 475s | be able to start working on that uh |
| 477s | whenever that happens uh so yeah another |
| 479s | known issue with the current |
| 480s | implementation of the online subsystem |
| 482s | is that currently you cannot unlink |
| 484s | accounts so if you are on Steam and |
| 486s | you've linked your epic account uh |
| 488s | previously in the game you were able to |
| 490s | like unlink those accounts within the |
| 492s | game uh that's not going to be possible |
| 494s | at the moment the reason behind that is |
| 496s | because that feature of unlinking all |
| 497s | that stuff we sort of want to move that |
| 499s | out from the game so you can sort of |
| 501s | handle that separately so you can go |
| 503s | like on epics website or whatever and |
| 504s | handle your accounts and and like sort |
| 506s | of make it more transparent as like |
| 508s | what's going on um um but uh we haven't |
| 511s | had time to fully wrap that up so you |
| 513s | can actually do the unlinking so that's |
| 515s | something that's coming in the future so |
| 517s | yeah I just want to make you guys aware |
| 518s | that this is a system that's still a bit |
| 520s | working progress it's going to be stable |
| 521s | on up toate but there are more features |
| 524s | coming and there's a bit of like a some |
| 526s | workarounds that might be necessary to |
| 528s | do but for the most part it should work |
| 530s | uh fine so yeah up to dat exciting times |
| 533s | we working out it for so long and I |
| 534s | can't believe it's finally coming out oh |
| 537s | boy uh anyways we usually have a release |
| 540s | stream on on on the date of release and |
| 543s | uh it who who would have thought we |
| 545s | actually have our weekly Dev streams uh |
| 547s | at at this time so we'll probably stream |
| 550s | as to like when we'll release the update |
| 552s | like what time I don't know at the |
| 553s | moment maybe we'll put it on the screen |
| 555s | here or maybe we won't who knows like |
| 557s | but um it's usually around the time when |
| 559s | we do our our Dev streams so join us |
| 562s | then and then you know we'll have a good |
| 565s | time okay we'll figure it out all right |
| 568s | uh I actually haven't planned for that |
| 570s | stream so so I hope |
| 573s | uh it's probably fine see you all on |
| 575s | Tuesday until then |
| 581s | [Music] |
| 584s | bye |