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Only 3 campaign missions per story chapter is WAY too little.

By the looks of it, having a 3 chapter campaign for each faction, that leaves 9 missions for each race.

This compared to 29 in Wings of Liberty alone. Over 60 in WC3.

I am here specially for the campaign, and I have to say, this is the first time I have been extremelly disappointed by Stormgate.

3 missions per chapter per $10 is WAY TOO LITTLE.

EDIT: I don’t care to be downvoted by the multiplayer kids, but can you guys let us give actual feedback on the content that interests us?

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4 months ago - /u/FGS_Gerald - Direct link

Hey, folks—just dropping in to let you know we’re reading your feedback. We have always been transparent with our development plans and we will continue to do the same by keeping you fully informed about how we’re planning to produce and deliver content.

From the beginning, we’ve shared that our past experience with transitioning StarCraft II to free-to-play was the starting point for how we will sustain Stormgate’s ongoing development. The tentative price point we shared on Kickstarter is similar to the StarCraft II: Nova Covert Ops campaign, which was also sold in packs of three missions for $7.50 USD.

F2P was very successful for SC2—development was sustainable and it greatly increased the total number of players enjoying the game.

We love storytelling at Frost Giant and have high hopes for our episodic campaign content. Direct comparisons don’t really fit here, though—we aren’t making a box model game like Wings of Liberty, which launched with a lengthy campaign that took many years to make.

If you love campaign, we believe our approach should still be very exciting. We are not only planning on getting to a similar number of missions, but eventually exceeding it (though that will take us some time). We have no plans to abandon our dedicated campaign players and leave them huffing Copium, praying for the day that we’d return with more story missions.

As for pricing, it’s no secret that making AAA-quality games is incredibly expensive. Modern budgets at the bigger studios are upwards of $100 million USD and their marketing budgets can go even higher. Our marketing budget is almost non-existent as we have poured nearly every cent of our funding into making the best game possible.

Long story short, Frost Giant Studios will not exist for very long without a certain level of financial support from our players. The response to our Kickstarter has been awesome and we are optimistic that the support we need will be there if we continue to prioritize making a great game.

We think Stormgate has the greatest chance of success if it’s a social experience that is fun to play with your friends. So, if you don’t have the means to purchase our content, you will still be welcome to play Stormgate for as long as we’re around.

To that end, we are making Stormgate free-to-play so that everyone can be welcome in our community. This includes our plan to make it so that paying for story content will allow you to invite friends (who may not be able to purchase it themselves) to experience it with you for free (with some limitations, like unlocking saves, achievement progress, and the ability to play solo.)

We are also going to continue to offer bundle pricing, like we are with our Kickstarter, so that players can receive additional value vs. purchasing single pieces of content a la carte.

Ultimately, we aim to produce new story content at a steady cadence that is healthy and sustainable for our team and that feels fun and worthwhile for our players.

We hope you enjoy getting your hands on our upcoming open beta playtest this February 5-12 (or earlier if you’re a KS Founder) during Steam Next Fest and please continue to let us know what you think. Your feedback is always valuable and we are incredibly grateful for your support.

4 months ago - /u/FGS_Gerald - Direct link

Originally posted by Otherwise_Mud_69

I agree. Though im fine with 3 missions, i just wont be willing to play all missions at $10 per pack. Unless they do campaign bundles once a large series of them come out.

I would much rather play $5-8 per pack

In case you missed it, we are planning to offer bundle pricing.

4 months ago - /u/FGS_Gerald - Direct link

Originally posted by DrBurn-

Thanks for your commitment to producing content for years to come. Maybe I’m the minority, but I personally don’t mind the prices (I already spend 5-10$ dollars a day on coffee, sigh lol). Looking forward to supporting you guys and enjoying the content whenever it’s released.

Thanks so much for your support! <3

4 months ago - /u/FGS_Gerald - Direct link

Originally posted by Augustby

Hey Gerald, thanks for sharing FG's thoughts!

I'm still worried about the sense of pacing (given how Nova Covert Ops made me feel); but I'm happy to give you folks the benefit of the doubt!

In the meantime, I have a very strong request: in whatever future bundles you offer, can you please make it so that we can buy multiple campaign chapter packs at a discount, even if those chapters aren't out yet?

Where I'm from, the exchange rate is such that I'm paying a little over $15 for each mission pack, and it's quite a lot (and it's worse in other countries). So I'd happily buy (for example) Infernals campaign Chapters 1-3 in a discounted bundle.

The reason why I ask for these bundles to include Chapters not-yet-released is because I'm very excited for Stormgate and will likely be on the subreddit and Discord frequently. I want to play Chapters and discuss the story as soon as they come out, not wait for a year for a bundle to release (before which I'd almost certainly have the story spoiled inadvertently).

So once again, I'd strongly appreciate it if you folks could consider selling campaign chapter bundles even for chapters that aren't out yet! 🙏 🙏 Thank you for reading

Thanks for reading and for supporting our team!

We hear your request regarding pre-purchase bundle pricing. Thanks for sharing your situation and perspective—we’ll keep you posted!

4 months ago - /u/FGS_Gerald - Direct link

Originally posted by Wraithost

The worst case for me would be if they compromise quality for more quantity...

I really agree with that.

Also I think that a discount for buying several chapters at once is likely.

Can confirm: we are planning to offer bundle pricing.