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| 936s | the year is24 and we are here at the |
| 938s | Esports World Cup for the stormgate |
| 940s | Invitational Tournament welcome ladies |
| 942s | and gentlemen is the new era of RTS upon |
| 945s | us as Wars and the infernal host is |
| 947s | invading the Mortal Realms we have |
| 949s | Vanguard trying to defend their home and |
| 951s | we have celestials here ready to make a |
| 953s | lot of arents welcome my name is Karis |
| 956s | and joining me to get things going to my |
| 958s | left hand side I zombie grub as well as |
| 960s | Rotterdam my esteemed guests I'm so |
| 963s | excited to be here guys how about you zg |
| 965s | it's exciting time everyone loves a new |
| 967s | RTS right they love the expansions love |
| 969s | the new units they love to experiment |
| 971s | they love to actually beat a couple of |
| 972s | pro Gamers before they actually get good |
| 973s | at the game it's a really fun time to be |
| 976s | a part of a new RTS definitely Ry |
| 978s | yourself I mean it's a super special |
| 979s | week for many reasons but obviously |
| 981s | Early Access going live for everyone |
| 982s | right now free to play we've all been |
| 984s | playing the game quite a bit over the |
| 985s | last two weeks it's fun you think you've |
| 987s | got something you write some things down |
| 989s | you're like I've got a solid build order |
| 990s | three days later patch and you can throw |
| 992s | everything into the bin it's like we |
| 993s | start from stretch again we play a |
| 995s | completely different game and we're |
| 996s | going to build different units but it's |
| 997s | really been fun to see how it all |
| 999s | evolves so quickly and I'm curious to |
| 1001s | see what these guys are going to bring |
| 1002s | to the show tonight yeah definitely you |
| 1003s | make so many good points I mean |
| 1004s | technically if I look at my watch and I |
| 1006s | think in about 5 minutes time it goes |
| 1008s | free to play for Early Access for |
| 1009s | everybody of course there are still |
| 1011s | packs that people can buy to be able to |
| 1012s | get there's extra little goodies going |
| 1014s | on in game for stormgate but you make a |
| 1017s | great point zg in the in the formative |
| 1019s | moments of an RTS it's really awesome to |
| 1021s | be able to get on join everybody and |
| 1023s | there's going to be a lot of people |
| 1024s | joining today where they get to kind of |
| 1027s | experiment themselves with these three |
| 1028s | races Vanguard infernals as well as |
| 1030s | Celestial and kind of try and figure out |
| 1032s | their own meta as time goes on yeah the |
| 1033s | beginning of uh any game is kind of like |
| 1036s | the uh what what kind of people really |
| 1037s | want right which is to be able to think |
| 1039s | of anything that they can do and then do |
| 1041s | it and it actually works and we know |
| 1042s | that as the game develops it kind of |
| 1044s | gets to a point really you can get so |
| 1045s | far with that but in the beginning of a |
| 1047s | game you could be the guy who finds out |
| 1049s | a thing and then you just Skyrock it up |
| 1051s | on the ladder and you're feel gold you |
| 1053s | feel like oh I'm finally good at a game |
| 1055s | and then well Pro Gamers come in but for |
| 1057s | the while you just you get to actually |
| 1059s | think strategically and creatively and |
| 1061s | you get to be the first one potentially |
| 1062s | to be like this is really good trust me |
| 1064s | and you might be right I know Ry you've |
| 1066s | been playing a lot of infernal yeah it's |
| 1068s | fun because in the beginning it feels |
| 1069s | that those windows that zg is referring |
| 1071s | to as well they are so large you're like |
| 1072s | hey I think I can do this you've got |
| 1074s | time but then you play a few more days |
| 1075s | and then everybody gets a little bit |
| 1077s | tighter with their timings they get a |
| 1078s | bit sharper and at one point you're like |
| 1080s | man I feel like I used to be able to |
| 1081s | come back in these scenarios and now it |
| 1083s | gets harder and harder but we just had |
| 1085s | that two weeks ago and now it kind of |
| 1086s | feels like that starts all over again |
| 1087s | tonight with allly everybody being able |
| 1089s | to play the game for the first time it |
| 1091s | it's a really cool period because you |
| 1093s | look at some units and at first you're |
| 1094s | like I'm not really feeling this but |
| 1096s | then a week later you start building a |
| 1097s | few more of them like actually really |
| 1098s | awesome and then you start coming up |
| 1100s | with these little ridges in your mind if |
| 1102s | I just open up like this and I |
| 1104s | transition into that I actually believe |
| 1106s | this can work and then the first time |
| 1107s | you pull it off you really think you're |
| 1108s | a genius you try it again and you play |
| 1110s | against someone better like well okay |
| 1112s | maybe it wasn't all that smart but it |
| 1114s | was fun and that's obviously what it's |
| 1115s | all about in the end of the day right |
| 1116s | when you play RTS not everybody has to |
| 1119s | become a ping or a clam you can just |
| 1121s | play to have fun and build the units |
| 1123s | that you enjoy building it's early days |
| 1124s | that's why it's early access and the |
| 1126s | game has a long way to go we will be |
| 1127s | seeing that as time goes on but let's |
| 1129s | talk about the players that we are |
| 1130s | getting here for the stormgate |
| 1132s | Invitational Tournament today we are |
| 1133s | going to have double elimination four |
| 1135s | players representing Mana Theory parting |
| 1138s | and Max so actually a player from all |
| 1141s | over the world in terms of kind of |
| 1143s | representation here zg what are you |
| 1145s | thinking about the player lineup overall |
| 1146s | well we do have three celestials and an |
| 1148s | infernal so I'm a Vanguard player you |
| 1150s | know and I would like to see some but |
| 1152s | the celestial matchups proving to be |
| 1154s | kind of interesting we are seeing some |
| 1155s | people innovate let's say in that one |
| 1157s | and then the lone infernal gets a try |
| 1159s | and actually prove that they can |
| 1160s | actually make it through which I I |
| 1162s | actually believe they do have a solid |
| 1163s | chance the matchup right now is in an |
| 1165s | interesting state but yeah we're going |
| 1167s | to have a lot of celestial vers |
| 1168s | celestial we're gonna have a lot of |
| 1170s | people vying for victory and doing thing |
| 1172s | you know Jesus doing anything they can |
| 1175s | to actually get through here and so I |
| 1177s | think we also are going to see that they |
| 1178s | created some things for this tournament |
| 1181s | as well that they've probably kept off |
| 1182s | the ladder until then I mean one thing |
| 1183s | that is cool as well is that obviously |
| 1185s | we've just come off the back of the |
| 1186s | tasteless Showdown Rody uh that was |
| 1188s | actually played on a slightly different |
| 1189s | patch to what we have right now where |
| 1191s | some things were tweaked slightly like |
| 1193s | morph cars uh so we might see some cool |
| 1195s | fun new things here it's going to look |
| 1197s | very different especially celestial and |
| 1199s | Celestial is going to look very |
| 1200s | different I don't think we have to worry |
| 1201s | about more of course flying over to each |
| 1203s | other's bases and chipping away the |
| 1205s | economy immediately two damage two |
| 1206s | damage Everything Has Changed because at |
| 1208s | that point whenever I reached out to |
| 1210s | some of the Pro Gamer friends that I |
| 1211s | have I was like Hey guys so what I do |
| 1212s | they're like all right expand first and |
| 1214s | then you do this a couple days later |
| 1216s | it's like ah never mind scrap that you |
| 1217s | got to go quick units cuz you need to |
| 1219s | creep cam you need to take out these |
| 1220s | cams you need to take control of the map |
| 1222s | cuz the bonuses are so large and |
| 1224s | obviously we're going to see that today |
| 1225s | I mean these games are going to be so |
| 1227s | different than the experience that most |
| 1228s | people on the ladder because you kind of |
| 1230s | look at the unit you build whatever unit |
| 1232s | you enjoy these guys are going to be |
| 1233s | sharp they're looking for the win well |
| 1235s | let's take a look at the bracket here |
| 1236s | and whil we're doing that we can talk |
| 1237s | about some of the overarching themes |
| 1239s | that maybe newer players might be |
| 1240s | interested in in terms of what is |
| 1242s | different here in RTS compared to some |
| 1243s | of our other ones so we will be starting |
| 1245s | off with parting versus max head and |
| 1247s | Theory versus Mana is on the way |
| 1248s | afterwards it's best of Threes up until |
| 1250s | the grand final which will be best of |
| 1251s | fives but Rodan brought up something |
| 1253s | very important zg which is relative to |
| 1255s | say Starcraft 2 for example where like |
| 1258s | creeping isn't a thing creeping |
| 1259s | especially in this last patch has become |
| 1261s | extremely important for your economy and |
| 1264s | preservation yeah it's the most |
| 1265s | important thing so R just summed it up |
| 1267s | totally perfectly right like you are |
| 1269s | supposed to be out there creeping and |
| 1270s | trying to even steal your opponents as |
| 1272s | well so it's very active it's very map |
| 1275s | you know control based and it can be |
| 1278s | very fun but it can also be kind of |
| 1279s | frustrating to play against and what |
| 1280s | theory was able to show at the very |
| 1282s | least at that last tournament was that |
| 1284s | some type of turtle might still be able |
| 1285s | to work in that patch and he might have |
| 1288s | figured out a way to get so work in this |
| 1289s | one as well because I think that might |
| 1291s | be one of the big problems right trying |
| 1293s | to get that as the infernal player up |
| 1295s | against all these celestials yeah |
| 1296s | Celestial has some interesting mechanics |
| 1299s | rdam in the fact that they are can be |
| 1302s | very Global on the map their buildings |
| 1304s | obviously their Arc ship is immovable |
| 1306s | you're at collection arrays you're you |
| 1308s | can technically fan them out across the |
| 1310s | map to be able to gain luminite Etc |
| 1312s | absolutely but that's not the only race |
| 1313s | right cuz you still see great Inferno |
| 1315s | players also building their first meat |
| 1316s | farm near creep camps just so they can |
| 1318s | get a couple of these early on and then |
| 1320s | you can creep it out take it a little |
| 1321s | bit earlier so you don't lose too many |
| 1323s | units so every race will have some of |
| 1325s | that but we're probably going to see |
| 1326s | that most of celestials and we talk a |
| 1327s | lot about creeping but we haven't talked |
| 1329s | really about creep jacking and that's |
| 1330s | massive in Warcraft 3 obviously that is |
| 1332s | basically what I always did for five |
| 1334s | years straight trying to figure out |
| 1335s | where my opponent was show up at the |
| 1337s | right moment and I've already had some |
| 1338s | really funny moments man where I got |
| 1340s | Rambo Boozled in a big Way by a guy with |
| 1342s | his Scout his dog he saw me creep and he |
| 1344s | waited for the last hit and he got it |
| 1346s | and I was like okay I'm not even really |
| 1348s | mad cuz that's actually kind of of a |
| 1349s | cool play I had six units shooting at a |
| 1350s | creep he showed up with a single Scout |
| 1352s | and I hope that we get to see some of |
| 1354s | that today cuz it's not all about I |
| 1355s | creep and you creep like no you can show |
| 1357s | up right when they start creeping and |
| 1359s | show up when they don't want you to be |
| 1361s | there maybe they have to disengage you |
| 1363s | can finish the job like all of that is |
| 1364s | going to be very important obviously all |
| 1365s | right well let's talk about our first |
| 1367s | match then that is going to be coming up |
| 1368s | it will be maxed going up against |
| 1371s | parting it will be Celestial versus |
| 1372s | Celestial uh and rdam I'll come to you |
| 1375s | first here when it comes to Max said you |
| 1376s | have known this man for a long long time |
| 1379s | yeah if I say I've known him for more |
| 1380s | than half my life and I'm pretty old I'm |
| 1382s | not lying I think in the summer of 2007 |
| 1385s | I went to China for like six seven weeks |
| 1388s | honestly with the main purpose of |
| 1389s | becoming a better gamer and spending |
| 1391s | some time with Todd back then who was |
| 1392s | living in China I went to three |
| 1394s | tournaments and obviously was always |
| 1395s | looking for practice and Max said in the |
| 1397s | Year 2007 was one of these guys that was |
| 1400s | always down to play with me it didn't |
| 1401s | matter if it was early afternoon or |
| 1402s | night that man was always eager and it's |
| 1404s | really cool to see that he's still |
| 1406s | around had a good career in Starcraft 2 |
| 1408s | as well a lot of people think of Max |
| 1409s | head and Jim like they were the do they |
| 1411s | were the Phoenix Colossus brought us and |
| 1413s | it's really awesome to see him here in |
| 1414s | stormgate yeah definitely I think maybe |
| 1416s | we're expecting some aggression coming |
| 1417s | out from him parting of course comes off |
| 1419s | the back of actually not winning the |
| 1421s | tasteless Showdown zg where I think a |
| 1423s | lot of people expected him to because |
| 1424s | he's so prolific when it comes to RTS |
| 1427s | yeah because he's so talented at it too |
| 1428s | like he can pick up any RTS and get into |
| 1430s | it and be top of the ladder and he has |
| 1432s | been dedicating a lot of his time to |
| 1434s | stormgate so he was definitely the |
| 1437s | favorite to win but it proved to be a |
| 1439s | bit difficult verus think probe and a |
| 1440s | laser uh beat him out so I think he's |
| 1443s | going to be pretty hungry to prove that |
| 1444s | he is one of the best and I think we're |
| 1446s | going to have two very aggressive |
| 1447s | players in RTS as a whole playing a |
| 1450s | right now aggressive mirror matchup yeah |
| 1452s | we're expecting a lot of argents we're |
| 1453s | expecting maybe some vectors to come |
| 1454s | along here or thank you guys as we need |
| 1456s | to get to this first game so without |
| 1459s | further Ado please make welcome to the |
| 1460s | stage our first two players it will be |
| 1462s | Max head and parting going head-to-head |
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| 1485s | all right they take their seats here as |
| 1486s | they look to become the champion here |
| 1488s | for the ewc for the stormgate |
| 1490s | Invitational Tournament without further |
| 1491s | Ado let's head over to our commentators |
| 1493s | to bring you the first series it's |
| 1495s | tastosis for Celestial versus Celestial |
| 1498s | what is up every every body an exciting |
| 1499s | moment going into this first match here |
| 1501s | at ewc it's going to be Max Head versus |
| 1504s | pardan should be a mere matchup and uh I |
| 1506s | got to say I think parting the favorite |
| 1508s | here but we absolutely could have an |
| 1509s | upset yeah yeah uh maxed has been around |
| 1512s | forever uh Rody went over his history |
| 1515s | very well there very talented pros and |
| 1517s | of course we're so early on in fact yeah |
| 1520s | right now the game is live right so guys |
| 1524s | go and download some stormgate give it a |
| 1525s | try and copy some of these builds that |
| 1527s | you're going to see because these guys |
| 1529s | they've been playing through the alpha |
| 1530s | they've been playing through the beta |
| 1531s | they've been playing through Early |
| 1533s | Access now the game is actually |
| 1534s | launching now it's time to show what |
| 1536s | they have here at this invitation yeah |
| 1538s | so if you're enjoying what you're seeing |
| 1539s | here definitely go check the game out it |
| 1541s | literally just went live right now uh |
| 1543s | it's been interesting trying to unpack |
| 1545s | the game obviously we have what 25 years |
| 1548s | of RTS experience um behind us but |
| 1551s | whenever a new game comes out it's |
| 1553s | always uh a little bit special people |
| 1554s | trying to figure out okay what works |
| 1556s | what's broken how can I win and we see |
| 1558s | the meta begin to evolve from there to |
| 1560s | expand out um and you know we're going |
| 1563s | to get a good idea of what some of the |
| 1565s | pros think about this Mir matchup now |
| 1567s | but it's going to be a long road ahead |
| 1569s | as we continue to unpack each of the |
| 1570s | matchups each of the factions on the |
| 1572s | different Maps an exciting time as we |
| 1575s | can tell you coming from other rtss with |
| 1577s | a background of nearing 30 years playing |
| 1579s | RTS games they just evolve forever so |
| 1582s | you know if you're just looking at |
| 1583s | stormgate now for the first time uh |
| 1585s | welcome because you are in for a long |
| 1588s | and wonderful treat of meta evolvement |
| 1591s | strategy evolvement patches all sorts of |
| 1593s | new plays and these guys are going to |
| 1595s | show their absolute best here today RTS |
| 1598s | games can be a little bit daunting there |
| 1600s | is a certain amount of information you |
| 1601s | have to soak in before you can really |
| 1603s | get into the uh meat and bones of it um |
| 1606s | but that's also what makes it so |
| 1607s | beautiful so compelling it makes for so |
| 1609s | many different types of games so many |
| 1611s | different stories right now uh we're |
| 1613s | gonna have Max set here in the top right |
| 1615s | and parting in the bottom left both |
| 1617s | players here rushing towards each other |
| 1620s | yeah they are moving out towards the |
| 1622s | center a little bit right now and we'll |
| 1623s | see where they want to end up expanding |
| 1626s | to uh looks like those morph cores are |
| 1628s | going to go ahead and attach themselves |
| 1630s | this is how you expand uh as the |
| 1633s | celestials these morph cores come over |
| 1635s | and they can make those collection |
| 1636s | arrays that are going to gather up |
| 1638s | luminite now only the celestials have |
| 1640s | this much Mobility right at the start of |
| 1642s | the game their starting building is able |
| 1644s | to move out on the map uh you can see |
| 1647s | here he's going to be trying to use this |
| 1648s | now to attack and wipe these creeps out |
| 1650s | creeps I think we all identify creeps |
| 1652s | from Warcraft 3 but they play a huge |
| 1654s | role in stormgate different creeps give |
| 1656s | you different abilities depending on the |
| 1657s | um totem that they're guarding and of |
| 1659s | course they give you resources for each |
| 1660s | kill that you get and you can see paring |
| 1663s | trying to utilize his early Arc ship |
| 1665s | here with some of those top bar |
| 1666s | abilities to help clear this creep Camp |
| 1668s | a little bit and of course that's a |
| 1670s | great move you can see maed doing the |
| 1672s | same thing so you can already see that |
| 1674s | there's definitely places where these |
| 1675s | two agree okay this is a great opening |
| 1677s | strategy yeah and it makes a bit of |
| 1680s | sense you're going to use those global |
| 1681s | abilities to power up and punish those |
| 1683s | creeps and push out we had a lot of |
| 1685s | rushes at the tasteless TV stormgate |
| 1687s | Showdown um but in this matchup right |
| 1690s | it's a mere matchup it doesn't seem like |
| 1692s | one um side should really be rushing the |
| 1694s | other if the other player knows what |
| 1696s | he's doing he should be able to defend |
| 1698s | yeah yeah and you know the game is still |
| 1699s | being tuned all over the place some of |
| 1701s | the early aggressive factors have been |
| 1704s | changed up a little bit and you can see |
| 1706s | right now they're both just really |
| 1707s | focusing on clearing out some of these |
| 1710s | camps and of course they give you all |
| 1711s | sorts of great abilities for instance |
| 1713s | this is a vision Camp uh which can be |
| 1715s | very very useful so if he does manage to |
| 1718s | clear that out he may actually leave |
| 1719s | that creep to be damaged for later on |
| 1721s | important to note that you can get creep |
| 1723s | jacked in this game he's going to have |
| 1724s | the Argent come out here now now the the |
| 1725s | purple bar is going to be uh a little |
| 1727s | bit of a power boost here for the shots |
| 1729s | that he fires out there getting the kill |
| 1731s | um but he's going to have to wait for |
| 1732s | that to regen or get some kind of |
| 1733s | battery source to energize that if he |
| 1735s | wants to have more power in future |
| 1737s | fights and you can see that's EX what |
| 1739s | Max set is doing right now he's going |
| 1741s | ahead and recharging that energy right |
| 1742s | away like you said tesus you know that |
| 1744s | gives a big power boost actually doubles |
| 1746s | the attack power of those arents but |
| 1749s | yeah right now they're both just kind of |
| 1750s | working on taking down these camps on |
| 1752s | building their economies you can see |
| 1753s | more morph cores coming out maybe |
| 1755s | wanting to get a few more bases here as |
| 1757s | well so we're going to have a push now |
| 1759s | now this is important because paring is |
| 1761s | now moving into Max Head side of the map |
| 1763s | we could have a moment where uh yeah |
| 1765s | we're going to have Maxa now coming here |
| 1766s | uh it's in between the creep for the |
| 1768s | time it does seem like parting has a |
| 1769s | little bit more so Max has to be very |
| 1771s | careful but a nice shot there on that |
| 1772s | morph core yeah he kills the morph core |
| 1774s | off and the argents are going to have to |
| 1776s | walk back parting has one more but the |
| 1778s | creep is still here so they come up and |
| 1780s | try to get that steal right there right |
| 1782s | now parting trying to take this Vision |
| 1784s | camp and in fact Max said does back off |
| 1786s | for now but at least he knows parting is |
| 1789s | over |
| 1790s | there so Vision Camp is his we do have |
| 1793s | some buildings in the exterior you know |
| 1795s | um the celestial faction it is one that |
| 1797s | can really build anywhere the m a l of |
| 1801s | fting this we're stting to see set just |
| 1805s | outside the second base outside of Max |
| 1807s | head's position here he's continuing to |
| 1809s | reinforce um and for the time being it's |
| 1811s | going to be a little bit tough for maxed |
| 1813s | to have any growth there's basically two |
| 1815s | ways this game can go either parting can |
| 1816s | attack more right now or he can try to |
| 1818s | take more of the map well right now |
| 1820s | parting just has a few more argents here |
| 1822s | and Max Head having a bit of a hard time |
| 1824s | comes up for this engagement but he just |
| 1827s | has lower numbers this is looking pretty |
| 1829s | good for parting parting with a nice |
| 1831s | little micro back there but we are very |
| 1832s | close here to this creation chamber so |
| 1835s | max head is going to have more Argin |
| 1836s | joining very |
| 1838s | quickly paring seems to have just a |
| 1840s | little bit more argents he could |
| 1842s | threaten this structure up here |
| 1844s | punishing this and taking it out would |
| 1845s | be huge in in fact part's going to come |
| 1846s | in here for a huge dive about to take |
| 1849s | out one more Argent it looks like Max |
| 1850s | said can't quite micro the weaker Argent |
| 1852s | so we in time yeah and he actually does |
| 1854s | some good damage as parting is trying to |
| 1856s | back up you know this is one of the |
| 1857s | deeper strategy elements here uh when |
| 1860s | you have the argents do you attack a |
| 1862s | building you're going to be wasting all |
| 1863s | that energy and if your opponent lets it |
| 1866s | tank some damage they can walk up and |
| 1867s | deal their extra damage hits to you so |
| 1870s | definitely something that you have to |
| 1871s | take into consideration now parting |
| 1873s | staying here in fighting Max head is |
| 1876s | right on top of him very close you can |
| 1877s | see these pullbacks from parting some |
| 1880s | beautiful micro right there and saves |
| 1882s | some very low Health argents yeah that |
| 1884s | is huge the fact that he was able to get |
| 1886s | away with what he did having some of |
| 1887s | those units go go in between the smaller |
| 1889s | trees uh while the other ones mooved |
| 1891s | South directly towards the production |
| 1893s | structure Hardin continuing to put the |
| 1895s | pressure on he's going to loop around |
| 1896s | now debating about maybe pushing into |
| 1898s | this area right here uh Max's going to |
| 1900s | send four argents out and he might end |
| 1903s | up just barely missing this o I think he |
| 1905s | sees him yeah just at the end there does |
| 1907s | get a little shot off and you know Max |
| 1909s | said's going to run away and try to get |
| 1911s | these units home he doesn't want to just |
| 1912s | lose them for free but I like the idea |
| 1914s | right send out a few units maybe do some |
| 1916s | harassment elsewhere Max said going to |
| 1919s | push out a little bit further party |
| 1920s | needs to be careful to not overextend |
| 1922s | overextending when you have this much |
| 1924s | infrastructure outside their base could |
| 1925s | backfire in the game well if you have to |
| 1928s | do a full Retreat you're going to end up |
| 1929s | losing a lot of buildings and that's |
| 1931s | going to be expensive to replace so |
| 1933s | definitely something you has to watch |
| 1934s | out for but and you know so far in this |
| 1936s | game parting does have a little bit more |
| 1938s | map control but you can see the supply |
| 1939s | down on the bottom here Max set is doing |
| 1942s | a fantastic job and look at this he |
| 1943s | rotates over here catches arents as they |
| 1946s | pop out of this creation chamber and |
| 1947s | he's taking a nice little concave here |
| 1949s | as well yeah he's starting to push up in |
| 1951s | here parting trying to micro back we |
| 1952s | have a couple arches popping out here |
| 1954s | from above but that also is met with the |
| 1956s | reinforcements here from Max set really |
| 1958s | good control here from parting so far |
| 1959s | it's going to come down who can Target |
| 1960s | fire what a little bit faster it looks |
| 1962s | like party decides he's going to have to |
| 1964s | back up as Max set is pursuing yeah Max |
| 1967s | set is actually taking a pretty big |
| 1969s | Supply Advantage right now 27 Supply to |
| 1971s | 44 so max said uh you know he's played |
| 1974s | this kind of patiently it felt like |
| 1976s | parting had a bit of an advantage there |
| 1978s | on Max head's side of the map but now |
| 1980s | he's in that full Retreat we were |
| 1982s | talking about before and I think Max |
| 1984s | maxed excuse me is going to try to press |
| 1986s | his Advantage he can move in here he can |
| 1988s | actually capture this Vision Tower right |
| 1989s | out here Harding decides to fight back a |
| 1991s | little bit of an uncomfortable spot kind |
| 1993s | of a bottleneck here between the lake |
| 1995s | and the trees here but Max Head manages |
| 1996s | to push forward regardless and if this |
| 1999s | keeps happening I don't know if parting |
| 2001s | can actually hang on there's more |
| 2002s | structures are going to be powered down |
| 2004s | right over here right now yeah but you |
| 2005s | see we're near parting base now he's |
| 2007s | getting a refill on his energy very very |
| 2010s | quickly there and even though Max head |
| 2011s | has a big army he has to be wary of that |
| 2014s | if he's dealing half as much damage |
| 2016s | that's going to be really hard to beat |
| 2018s | parting I want to remind everybody that |
| 2020s | this little purple bar below the health |
| 2022s | bar for each arent is their energy the |
| 2026s | energy is depleted each time they fire |
| 2028s | if they're firing shots that are using |
| 2030s | up energy they're doing more damage so |
| 2032s | you can look like you might be winning a |
| 2034s | fight for a little bit but if you |
| 2035s | overextend and you don't have enough |
| 2037s | energy to really sustain that fight it |
| 2038s | will backfire and that's a very unique |
| 2040s | uh feature for Argent versus Argent that |
| 2042s | you want to follow oh for sure whoever's |
| 2044s | dealing more damage is just going to |
| 2046s | have that advantage and parting getting |
| 2048s | his refills from his buildings here is |
| 2050s | making a huge difference I don't think |
| 2052s | maxed can stay down here and keep this |
| 2054s | pressure up because he's just not going |
| 2056s | to be dealing consistently as much |
| 2058s | damage as parting is we saw a little |
| 2060s | scan over there from Max set trying to |
| 2062s | identify where exactly is parting at |
| 2064s | right now he can confirm that there's |
| 2065s | more argents being produced and it looks |
| 2067s | like we're going to have a bit of a |
| 2068s | fight over the creep Camp here I think |
| 2071s | that was that actually taken by parting |
| 2073s | I think it was it's hard to catch that |
| 2075s | one right there but look at this a |
| 2076s | Counterattack from Max said he was |
| 2078s | trying to set this up before comes down |
| 2080s | does a great job against that collection |
| 2082s | array oh he doesn't get it oh it's just |
| 2084s | out of range the prism with four Health |
| 2087s | gets away parting with the quick |
| 2090s | reflexes nicely done more uh units |
| 2092s | accumulating over here I think this |
| 2094s | might be a bad idea here for Maxa to try |
| 2096s | to come in because there's so many |
| 2097s | argents here for party's going to try to |
| 2098s | chase him up and this means a couple uh |
| 2101s | stray argents in the back are going to |
| 2102s | be picked off and that can really factor |
| 2105s | in in the long run if you look at the |
| 2106s | supplies right now that's the number of |
| 2108s | units that you currently have in the |
| 2109s | game it tops off at 300 Supply it is 78 |
| 2112s | to 55 so this can look close and it |
| 2115s | still is kind of close but it is clear |
| 2117s | that Max said has a lead yeah and look |
| 2119s | at this parting was chasing with so much |
| 2121s | of his army that Max Head comes down |
| 2122s | does a little bit of a Counterattack but |
| 2124s | parting splits off a piece of his army |
| 2126s | to push that away so not going to lose |
| 2128s | those crucial buildings right |
| 2130s | now Harding continuing to chase up here |
| 2133s | Max Head On The Run it's been kind of a |
| 2136s | back and forth a bit of sees sign here |
| 2139s | in positions parting having even more |
| 2140s | units coming out here potentially for a |
| 2142s | flank it is spotted there um and here we |
| 2145s | go this creep is going to be wiped out |
| 2147s | right before Oh actually Harding does |
| 2148s | get in here in time in time to contest |
| 2151s | yeah he tries to push up but look at |
| 2153s | that Argent Army just so large right now |
| 2156s | here from Max said he's done a great job |
| 2158s | with his macro still remaining about 25 |
| 2161s | Supply in the advantage and I really |
| 2164s | feel like Max said's going to be able to |
| 2165s | end up taking this game right like he |
| 2167s | did that nice Counterattack well that |
| 2169s | being said parting finds his way in for |
| 2171s | a Counterattack as well yeah parting |
| 2173s | kind of slip through right there |
| 2175s | interesting play is this going to be |
| 2176s | worth it he does manage to drive off uh |
| 2179s | any Gathering of resources there on that |
| 2180s | luminite base but now these argant are |
| 2182s | trapped in here but just south of this |
| 2185s | position over here is another attack |
| 2187s | into the natural |
| 2188s | oh man they're just diving on each |
| 2190s | other's collection arrays right now |
| 2191s | trying to lift them off trying to get |
| 2193s | away Max head trying to save this but he |
| 2195s | can't parting with that snipe but every |
| 2197s | time he's doing this Max head is having |
| 2198s | great Army movement look at this coming |
| 2200s | down trying to body block but paring |
| 2202s | Wiggles through there with a few Argin |
| 2204s | and won't lose everything as he runs so |
| 2206s | parting has kneecapped Max head right |
| 2209s | now it's uh almost no income for the |
| 2212s | time being but parting sacrificed a lot |
| 2214s | of units to do that so the Counterattack |
| 2216s | may be the most important moment in this |
| 2219s | game can Max Head actually um |
| 2221s | Counterattack push through and crush or |
| 2224s | can parting barely hold this off yeah |
| 2226s | this is going to be a tough one for |
| 2227s | parting his Supply is just so low right |
| 2230s | now I think he's going to have to really |
| 2231s | utilize his building some of these |
| 2233s | recharge uh you know some of these |
| 2235s | defensive structures to be able to try |
| 2237s | to hold on cuz look at that Argent count |
| 2240s | from Max said he has just made a massive |
| 2244s | Force okay Max said coming down now |
| 2248s | Hardin just has to try to hold this off |
| 2250s | for a little bit maxit is beginning to |
| 2252s | get an income here but it's going to be |
| 2254s | a game of catch up he tries to run by |
| 2256s | parting spots it parting on the hunt |
| 2258s | here those few argents can't really be |
| 2260s | used for any kind of harass and look at |
| 2262s | that parting leaves just enough units to |
| 2264s | make sure he wins that battle brings the |
| 2265s | rest of his army back home as he needs |
| 2267s | to do cuz Max head is starting to push |
| 2270s | he does have to micro forward a little |
| 2272s | bit here to get all of his argents to |
| 2273s | shoot though you can see paron kind of |
| 2275s | kiing backwards here as well but I think |
| 2278s | set has almost done it at this point |
| 2279s | look at this he is surrounding this Army |
| 2281s | of parting and parting just doesn't have |
| 2283s | much left yeah I think parting had a |
| 2285s | cool idea but at the end of theend of |
| 2287s | the day GG parting has been defeated |
| 2290s | already an upset here uh in our first |
| 2293s | game of the evening now it is a best of |
| 2296s | three it is possible for parting to |
| 2297s | recover here but um you know for the |
| 2300s | time being I got to say crazy game cool |
| 2302s | idea from parting Max said though comes |
| 2304s | back and wins yeah yeah you know parting |
| 2306s | tried to stay very aggessive throughout |
| 2308s | but maxed just did steady steady macro |
| 2311s | wasn't wasting units had a really great |
| 2314s | Counterattack as well when he went down |
| 2315s | and killed the collection array I think |
| 2317s | that that was a really key moment in the |
| 2319s | game yeah um you know I I think it's |
| 2323s | unsurprising to see paring have the |
| 2324s | aggression that he had back there um but |
| 2327s | you know in an RTS game a lot of times |
| 2329s | rushes like that especially ones that |
| 2331s | involve infrastructure being built right |
| 2333s | outside your opponent's position it can |
| 2335s | be a double-edged sword yeah yeah and we |
| 2337s | saw that there exactly right like he |
| 2340s | pushes the Army back max head takes some |
| 2342s | control he kills the the creation |
| 2344s | chamber just when he's ready to he |
| 2346s | doesn't need to do it right away you're |
| 2347s | not going to be spawning archant up |
| 2348s | there anymore so uh really good control |
| 2351s | there from Max head and I think paring |
| 2353s | has to back it up some of these very |
| 2354s | aggressive plays that have been working |
| 2356s | for him during the closed betas during |
| 2358s | the closed Alphas don't seem to be |
| 2360s | working anymore yeah at the um stormgate |
| 2363s | Showdown we just uh hosted in Soul we |
| 2365s | had a lot of rushes in this matchup but |
| 2368s | a lot of times in RTS games it starts |
| 2369s | out with rushes and it slowly moves into |
| 2371s | macro games and we saw a little bit of |
| 2373s | that a little bit of that excuse me back |
| 2375s | there we're going to go to a short break |
| 2376s | when we come back we're going to |
| 2377s | continue on with game two here with |
| 2379s | parting versus Max Head |
| 2386s | [Music] |
| 2394s | [Music] |
| 2524s | [Music] |
| 2563s | welcome back everybody we're going to |
| 2564s | continue on here with our first best of |
| 2566s | three of the evening here it's Max said |
| 2569s | on camera right now versus parting |
| 2571s | parting was the favorite of the |
| 2573s | tournament uh in the tasteless uh TV |
| 2575s | Showdown over in Soul and he did not |
| 2577s | manage to win is he going to be |
| 2579s | eliminated here or at least knocked into |
| 2581s | the losers bracket I should say uh |
| 2583s | starting off we're going to find out uh |
| 2585s | on this map here we've got maxed in the |
| 2587s | top right already on the move and so is |
| 2590s | parting here in the blue in the bottom |
| 2592s | left yeah we'll see if he can do a |
| 2594s | little bit of a better job looks like |
| 2596s | both sides going to go ahead and expand |
| 2598s | immediately with these initial morph |
| 2600s | cores very normal play uh and you know I |
| 2604s | I I just hope that parting doesn't make |
| 2606s | any big mistake early on does he move |
| 2608s | too far across the map and you know end |
| 2610s | up losing a morph core end up losing uh |
| 2612s | chunks of his army forced back and |
| 2614s | everything it really puts you in a |
| 2616s | deficit especially in a mirror matchup |
| 2618s | it's interesting to see this as a a new |
| 2621s | common thing in the matchup is basically |
| 2623s | creeping with your initial structure to |
| 2625s | try to drain out these positions and see |
| 2628s | if you can get anything done uh we are |
| 2630s | seeing mirrored behaviors here on both |
| 2632s | sides now on this map you don't have to |
| 2635s | be in Cross spawns you could be |
| 2638s | uh sharing let's say the left side of |
| 2639s | the map together or the right um but |
| 2642s | regardless on this map uh being this far |
| 2645s | apart it could be more of a long game it |
| 2647s | could be one where we're going to go bit |
| 2648s | more into a macro play yeah I would |
| 2651s | really like to see that I it you know |
| 2653s | the game doesn't have to look like pure |
| 2655s | argents fighting each other but when you |
| 2657s | have an edge like Max Head had it makes |
| 2659s | a lot of sense to keep that up now you |
| 2661s | see both sides they're starting to uh |
| 2663s | creep a little bit they want to take |
| 2664s | down some of these camps and and gain |
| 2667s | that value from them some creation |
| 2668s | Chambers going up and uh yeah Max said |
| 2672s | just getting ready I think to make a |
| 2673s | bunch of argents here yeah I said that |
| 2675s | we might not have rushes and uh well |
| 2677s | guess we are going to have some attacks |
| 2678s | here he's going to be gearing up to make |
| 2679s | a lot of those argents right now Harding |
| 2682s | is going to clear out this healing uh |
| 2684s | Camp down here in the bottom and we |
| 2687s | should point out that you start out |
| 2688s | mining luminite that gives you a lot of |
| 2690s | your core structures and core units but |
| 2692s | you do want to also uh mine etherium and |
| 2695s | that's sort of your second tier resource |
| 2697s | um in this matchup with the two |
| 2700s | celestials we have they also have to |
| 2701s | manage energy and so it's a it's a |
| 2705s | faction that functions off of trying to |
| 2707s | mitigate power to certain structures or |
| 2710s | certain abilities at the right time and |
| 2711s | can make for a lot of different types of |
| 2713s | games you know I actually think we're |
| 2715s | going to have a really interesting game |
| 2716s | here this time uh you know both of them |
| 2719s | are just focusing on the camps and kind |
| 2721s | of expanding a little bit and it does |
| 2723s | look like we're going to get some theum |
| 2725s | mining going here as well for Max Head |
| 2727s | as he comes over to that secondary |
| 2729s | resource uh you know it's just they're |
| 2731s | very far away and honestly if you're if |
| 2733s | you're both making basically the same |
| 2736s | units you can't really attack your |
| 2738s | opponent because they're just going to |
| 2740s | have like a little bit more than you |
| 2741s | because of the the travel distance so |
| 2743s | what happens is you make a certain |
| 2745s | amount where you start feeling very safe |
| 2746s | like there's no chance you're going to |
| 2748s | die or anything and then the tech starts |
| 2750s | to come and once these really fast |
| 2753s | moving Tech units come out like maybe |
| 2754s | the cre start coming out something like |
| 2756s | that uh that's where we're going to have |
| 2758s | a lot of dynamic engagements in this |
| 2760s | game yeah we've got some creeping |
| 2763s | happening down here from Max Head uh |
| 2765s | remember if he wins this game it's just |
| 2767s | a best of three so he would be uh |
| 2768s | winning this and moving on we got party |
| 2770s | now intercepting though and there were a |
| 2772s | lot of already damaged argents here the |
| 2774s | targeting is pretty good but he barely |
| 2776s | doesn't kill that last Argent Max Head |
| 2778s | pulls away and look in a matchup where |
| 2781s | you're both going for the same units |
| 2782s | getting oh sorry I actually they were |
| 2785s | attacking each other there two different |
| 2786s | arent armies uh in a matchup where you |
| 2788s | have um argents versus argents you get a |
| 2792s | one or two you know kill lead here and |
| 2794s | it can start to snowball oh absolutely |
| 2796s | you got to be careful at that and you |
| 2797s | see that paron does pull back really |
| 2799s | quickly after losing that Argent he's |
| 2800s | going to go ahead and take out some |
| 2802s | camps elsewhere the supply is still |
| 2804s | pretty close here a little bit higher |
| 2806s | for Max head but we'll see if Ping's |
| 2809s | going to actually switch up his Tech a |
| 2810s | little bit maybe he'll start making some |
| 2812s | other units after he clears these camps |
| 2814s | yeah so he's going to go for this Camp |
| 2815s | down here at the bottom he is going to |
| 2817s | kite that um since it is a melee |
| 2819s | attacker clearing that out in these last |
| 2821s | two creeps should be pretty easy to kill |
| 2823s | um just above this position that was Max |
| 2826s | Head who's already going to be on the |
| 2827s | Move now he could end up getting trapped |
| 2829s | into this position just because he's |
| 2831s | actually unintentionally gone around |
| 2833s | parting here yeah that could end up |
| 2835s | being a problem but he is coming down |
| 2837s | with an attack it looks like parting |
| 2838s | does finish off that camp and look at |
| 2840s | that Max head with another killer snipe |
| 2843s | right there fantastic moves taking down |
| 2845s | that collection array destroying one of |
| 2847s | paring mining |
| 2849s | bases okay we've got more of Max Head |
| 2852s | just pushing through here now it's uh |
| 2855s | well I don't think this is going to be a |
| 2856s | very fluid position can he get trapped |
| 2858s | down here it looks like party is going |
| 2860s | to have a couple of argents he can't |
| 2861s | quite plug up that entrance So Max Head |
| 2864s | does manage to slip through but he's |
| 2865s | going to be eating a lot of damage while |
| 2867s | he's still on the run I tell you what I |
| 2869s | feel like he's trading these reasonably |
| 2871s | well considering he got the collection |
| 2873s | array right like that is a good trade |
| 2875s | for Max head and even though he lose SE |
| 2878s | several of these units running back |
| 2880s | their supplies are going to be similar |
| 2881s | except Max head's going to be up a |
| 2884s | base yeah and it's funny the um scenario |
| 2888s | is similar to game one but it's the |
| 2889s | rolls reverse here it's actually Max |
| 2891s | head going with a little bit of harass |
| 2893s | and I think effectively escaping here |
| 2895s | and this really puts parting on his back |
| 2897s | foot parting is you know right now even |
| 2899s | in infrastructure wise but is behind as |
| 2901s | far as resource uh resources being |
| 2904s | soaked up here on the map so I want to |
| 2906s | see how parting handles this you can try |
| 2908s | to play a game from behind so to speak |
| 2910s | try to basically play catchup long term |
| 2913s | it's going to be minutes um many minutes |
| 2915s | away before you could even get there or |
| 2917s | you could try to do something decisive |
| 2919s | something tricky something tactical well |
| 2921s | we have both sides teching up a little |
| 2923s | bit here so we do have some scythes |
| 2925s | coming out here and we have some vectors |
| 2927s | coming out so parting going to have |
| 2929s | these vectors which are land units and |
| 2931s | very very mobile very very fast they do |
| 2933s | have a little uh teleportation technique |
| 2936s | but look at this move here from Max Head |
| 2938s | he's made some flying units in the scy |
| 2941s | and he's going to try to harass with |
| 2943s | those a little bit but they do get |
| 2944s | pushed back pretty quickly from that |
| 2946s | Vector okay another little kill here |
| 2949s | from parting parting does actually have |
| 2951s | a bit more map control in general if you |
| 2953s | look at the mini map in the bottom left |
| 2955s | and see all the little blue icons these |
| 2957s | are creep camps or expansions or |
| 2959s | structures that are on the map that are |
| 2961s | under the control of parting here so max |
| 2963s | said I think had a cool strategy it is |
| 2965s | still ahead for the time being but |
| 2966s | parting is playing a very different game |
| 2968s | one about uh controlling the map getting |
| 2970s | resources there and you know we were |
| 2972s | talking about him maybe playing behind |
| 2973s | in some sense and trying to catch up |
| 2975s | later on I think that's exactly what |
| 2977s | he's doing yeah I I'm really liking |
| 2979s | these two different Tech routes that we |
| 2980s | see like what is going to win you know |
| 2983s | we have Max Head who is a little bit |
| 2985s | ahead going for the flying units which |
| 2986s | generally aren't as stable against |
| 2988s | ground units but you know obviously can |
| 2990s | pass over terrain that the ground units |
| 2992s | cannot and then on parting side it's |
| 2994s | like okay yeah his economy took a little |
| 2995s | bit of a hit early on but he's got these |
| 2998s | vectors which are very micr very strong |
| 3000s | units oh gets one kill there before it |
| 3002s | can be microed away and he's going to be |
| 3004s | able to get forward here and he's going |
| 3005s | to get a second kill and parting I mean |
| 3007s | with those two kills and the Investments |
| 3009s | that were already put into these flying |
| 3011s | units that's going to be a huge punish |
| 3013s | here yeah it doesn't seem like these |
| 3015s | sites are paying off for Max head right |
| 3017s | now did he go down the wrong Tech route |
| 3019s | yeah it seems almost like he got a uh |
| 3021s | economic lead and then teched into a |
| 3023s | weird Direction and so parting I think |
| 3026s | we can say with the kills that he got |
| 3028s | there on those scy he's going to be in |
| 3031s | the lead now yeah it does start to feel |
| 3034s | like that a little bit you know I think |
| 3035s | these vectors are going to do a |
| 3036s | fantastic job for him in these uh coming |
| 3038s | engagements they're so micr and see he |
| 3040s | brings them in immediately already some |
| 3043s | big defense there from Max head and |
| 3045s | parting is going to have to get out of |
| 3047s | there okay we've got attack coming in |
| 3049s | here now and it looks like we are going |
| 3051s | to get the collection rray shot down big |
| 3053s | punish here from parting and very little |
| 3055s | recourse right now for Max said he is |
| 3057s | going to pursue but he's got to be |
| 3058s | careful are there enough sights here to |
| 3060s | basically win this fight yeah that is a |
| 3062s | good question you know we're seeing some |
| 3064s | of these battles really for the first |
| 3066s | time here in stormgate as it's gone live |
| 3069s | today and the sights look at that using |
| 3072s | that awesome jumping ability going to |
| 3074s | clear this creep Camp immediately as |
| 3076s | well with that top bar ability yeah |
| 3078s | using that top bar ability you don't |
| 3079s | even have to trade out damage to get the |
| 3081s | kills on that the argents are trying to |
| 3083s | fight these SES but you can see that the |
| 3084s | sites are just so much more micro three |
| 3087s | more argents are going to go down yeah |
| 3090s | those argents being just destroyed by |
| 3092s | Max head so Max Head does take a little |
| 3094s | bit of a supply lead here after killing |
| 3097s | those argents off basically for free but |
| 3100s | if you look at the mini map like parting |
| 3102s | has taken over a lot of camps on this |
| 3104s | map like he's been very very active |
| 3106s | compared to maxed which is not what you |
| 3109s | want to see as the player who went for |
| 3110s | flying units you know parting is |
| 3112s | generally um talked about as an aggro |
| 3116s | player micro player a tactical player |
| 3118s | but he's showing that he can really play |
| 3121s | a very very different game he got a |
| 3123s | black eye at the start of this uh fight |
| 3125s | here but he's basically controlled the |
| 3127s | map he's done a great job of expanding |
| 3130s | growing getting Intel and basically |
| 3132s | getting more ahead and we got to see can |
| 3134s | Max had come down here and try to get uh |
| 3136s | something pulled off he's coming down |
| 3138s | with a scy now it looks like he's going |
| 3140s | to be trying to go into the main but |
| 3141s | there's really not a lot to get here |
| 3142s | other than this collection array well |
| 3144s | killing off another base would be very |
| 3146s | nice and indeed and in fact he will be |
| 3148s | able to get that now the vectors are |
| 3150s | trying to catch him and in fact they are |
| 3152s | going to go ahead and jump towards them |
| 3154s | going after the other collection array |
| 3156s | now and you can see that Mobility for |
| 3158s | Max head is paying off but parting just |
| 3162s | with the stronger over overall Army |
| 3165s | being able to kill a lot of those SES |
| 3167s | beautifully done there um by parting I |
| 3169s | mean really pursuing that and punishing |
| 3172s | it is still a very turtled up Max set |
| 3174s | here he's trying to take advantage of |
| 3176s | the configuration of this map and to be |
| 3178s | honest it does seem like it's a map I |
| 3180s | know the game's very new but I will say |
| 3181s | it's a map that seems like you can |
| 3183s | really punish with air yeah basically |
| 3185s | hitting somewhere and then running away |
| 3186s | and it's a little bit more of a |
| 3188s | labyrinth to try to get back uh to that |
| 3190s | position but with the vectors of course |
| 3192s | you could try to Blink towards them and |
| 3193s | and hit them that way um and so it's |
| 3197s | going to be parting with this very |
| 3198s | different comp continuing to build up |
| 3199s | continuing to macro we've got cabals in |
| 3201s | this mix as well oh yeah very excited to |
| 3203s | see these cabals we haven't really seen |
| 3204s | that too much yet from uh from many |
| 3207s | Celestial players so great to see |
| 3208s | parting thinking that this is a great |
| 3210s | move for himself continuing to try to |
| 3212s | chase these sces out the SES continue to |
| 3215s | rotate around though and you know they |
| 3217s | just go over this terrain so quickly but |
| 3220s | parting very quick very much on top of |
| 3223s | their movement with these |
| 3225s | vectors yeah he's not able to really get |
| 3227s | in and get that much damage every time |
| 3229s | he swoops in it attacks it does get |
| 3231s | parting into this position where he has |
| 3233s | to organically reinforce and defend that |
| 3236s | position and the more defense and setups |
| 3238s | that he has the less likely it is that |
| 3239s | Max said will be able to come in again |
| 3241s | and do that kind of damage right now |
| 3243s | supplies it's 102 to 56 parting nearly |
| 3247s | doubling Max said in the size and scope |
| 3250s | of what he has in this game yeah the |
| 3251s | game is looking kind of rough for our |
| 3253s | Chinese player he really needs to figure |
| 3256s | out what he's going to end up doing with |
| 3257s | these sites does he continue to mass |
| 3259s | them up and and run around the map |
| 3261s | looking for damage or does he maybe |
| 3264s | switch maybe go down a different Tech |
| 3266s | route |
| 3267s | that is the question um we got the sces |
| 3270s | continuing to roam around here I feel |
| 3272s | like the game is beginning to quiet down |
| 3274s | a little bit here for maxed um parting |
| 3278s | you know it's funny the way that this |
| 3279s | game is gone he doesn't have to do a |
| 3281s | whole lot right because he's basically |
| 3283s | getting to where he needs to be and Max |
| 3286s | head is not really able to stop it we |
| 3288s | are finally seeing some cre being made I |
| 3290s | saw at least one of them pop out uh in |
| 3292s | the top right which means we are going |
| 3293s | to see different Tech but this game to |
| 3296s | me it really illust Ates how much more |
| 3297s | quick vectors are uh than the scythes |
| 3300s | they are quick they are quick and with |
| 3302s | that little teleportation jump I mean |
| 3304s | that really adds to their mobility and |
| 3306s | it's being used expertly but cre are |
| 3308s | coming out for Max set I like it as |
| 3311s | maybe like a last ditch effort in this |
| 3313s | game the cre can be very very strong as |
| 3317s | you begin to upgrade them a little bit |
| 3318s | right when they start rolling around and |
| 3320s | dealing all of their Splash damage it's |
| 3323s | a very tough unit to deal with |
| 3327s | yeah it it is a very tricky unit if he |
| 3329s | gets in your face and it starts to hit |
| 3331s | you you really tough to get away um but |
| 3334s | again the question is going to be is it |
| 3335s | too little too late uh meanwhile we have |
| 3338s | a battle here with a scythe and a morph |
| 3340s | core um looks like it is going to be |
| 3343s | just turned into a building you might as |
| 3344s | well use it for something right and try |
| 3346s | to buy some time you know RTS games are |
| 3348s | funny where sometimes it's about |
| 3350s | creating so much chaos in the game and |
| 3352s | forcing your opponent to juggle so many |
| 3354s | tasks that maybe they can't keep up now |
| 3356s | look at this this scythes roll out and |
| 3358s | attack parting Army as parting comes up |
| 3360s | into here and you can see right there |
| 3362s | when they have received lethal damage |
| 3364s | they can go ahead and explode to deal |
| 3366s | some damage so parting smartly backs up |
| 3368s | there but I think paring Army is just a |
| 3370s | little bit too big here the cre are not |
| 3372s | in a large enough number they don't have |
| 3374s | the type of surface area they need and I |
| 3376s | think parting is just moments from |
| 3378s | taking this |
| 3380s | game yeah parting really the uh the |
| 3384s | walls are closing in here for maxit |
| 3386s | let's put it like that I mean he's got |
| 3387s | him surrounded so well um at this point |
| 3389s | in time parting he's almost halfway to |
| 3391s | being maxed out and in RTS terms that |
| 3393s | means you can't even make any more units |
| 3394s | to game won't let you he's starting to |
| 3396s | push in here and this is really him |
| 3397s | fishing out these Crees drawing them in |
| 3399s | and then exploiting the fact that it's |
| 3401s | melee versus ranged and just hitting all |
| 3403s | those units getting those kills uh and |
| 3406s | it's basically rinse and repeat yeah you |
| 3408s | can see he's just picking off so many C |
| 3410s | time and oh he does get hit by that AOE |
| 3413s | a little bit he's not letting this slow |
| 3414s | him down too much since his army is so |
| 3416s | large he's got about twice the supply |
| 3418s | here of Max Head you see Max head trying |
| 3421s | to back up and you know he is getting |
| 3423s | some damage here but I think he's just |
| 3426s | it's too little too |
| 3428s | late yeah I think we're going to see |
| 3430s | slowly maxed begin to tap out here it |
| 3433s | might be after these few C are wiped out |
| 3435s | and really this was a game where Max |
| 3436s | Head got a lead he teched in a certain |
| 3438s | direction and parting played a very |
| 3439s | calculated very patient very calm game |
| 3442s | controlling the map taking more |
| 3444s | resources and really not losing any |
| 3446s | fights after that moment and from here |
| 3448s | we're seeing the result of that so this |
| 3449s | should be uh the end with this being |
| 3451s | tied up one to one so the end of this |
| 3453s | game at least which means we're going to |
| 3455s | go to that final rubber match yeah yeah |
| 3457s | some great adjustments in this game and |
| 3459s | I think that this really shows you |
| 3461s | there's a lot of ways that you can end |
| 3462s | up playing a new RTS game these guys |
| 3465s | going down completely different paths |
| 3467s | you could definitely see strengths and |
| 3468s | weaknesses in each but parting having a |
| 3471s | much better game number two funny |
| 3473s | parting winning that game but looking a |
| 3475s | little bit tense you know he is again |
| 3478s | the um favorite you know basically in |
| 3481s | stormgate right now everybody's saying |
| 3482s | this guy is the strongest he's the best |
| 3484s | he did not manage to win The stormgate |
| 3486s | Showdown in Soul um but he could manage |
| 3489s | at least get through here against Max |
| 3490s | head if he could win this next game well |
| 3492s | I really feel like it could go either |
| 3494s | way it does seem like the very early |
| 3496s | game Max head is doing a little bit |
| 3497s | better and really it was just him going |
| 3499s | into SES and they're already being |
| 3501s | vectors there to counter them that was |
| 3503s | the problem right the argents will be |
| 3504s | much too slow to catch the sights but he |
| 3506s | had vectors just in the nick of time he |
| 3508s | was more cost efficient and that worked |
| 3511s | out very well for parting so maybe if |
| 3513s | Max said gets the lead again he goes for |
| 3515s | vectors himself yeah it's interesting to |
| 3517s | see a very much a macro game here from |
| 3520s | Celestial vers Celestial I know we had a |
| 3522s | lot of rushes a lot of people were |
| 3524s | talking about uh you know a sles being a |
| 3526s | faction where you you have to rush |
| 3527s | there's no way to do a macro game and |
| 3529s | we're seeing that's not really true |
| 3531s | every week uh in stormgate the game is |
| 3533s | evolving people are are viewing it in |
| 3535s | different ways and yeah cool to see |
| 3537s | party kind of play that out in a control |
| 3539s | play absolutely uh love to see it and I |
| 3542s | hope that it continues to evolve like |
| 3543s | for instance if they both try to go for |
| 3545s | vectors A little bit later what does |
| 3547s | that look like and do you need to switch |
| 3549s | your Tech at that point does it does it |
| 3551s | turn into Mass cre then yeah it's a good |
| 3553s | question and if it's Mass cre suddenly |
| 3555s | the cre don't shoot up maybe we go back |
| 3557s | to the |
| 3558s | sites you know when you have a Mir match |
| 3561s | up it's funny it's like okay what is the |
| 3562s | right unit to go for and is there a |
| 3564s | workaround for that maybe uh you focus |
| 3566s | on on this one unit but in fact uh if |
| 3568s | you can cut a couple corners here you |
| 3570s | can get a better unit but then you know |
| 3571s | how do they counter that and so we're |
| 3573s | still learning that we're still |
| 3574s | discovering that we're still you know |
| 3575s | mapping that out and it's happening here |
| 3577s | in real time um you know with parting |
| 3580s | versus max head again neither player uh |
| 3582s | who loses here is knocked out they will |
| 3584s | go down to the losers uh bracket but |
| 3586s | obviously uh you know with Stakes this |
| 3588s | High here you want to do everything you |
| 3590s | can to try to advance there to the |
| 3592s | winner final well absolutely and it does |
| 3594s | look like they are getting ready in that |
| 3596s | game right now the pressure is on who is |
| 3599s | going to go to that winner bracket final |
| 3601s | and who drops to the loser bracket we're |
| 3603s | going to be on Isles of dread here for |
| 3604s | game number three it is Max head here in |
| 3607s | the top right and parin here in the |
| 3610s | bottom left now I want to remind |
| 3612s | everybody who's tuning in the celestials |
| 3614s | their starting structure can move and |
| 3616s | you do start with a morph core which can |
| 3618s | it's kind of like a Swiss army knife |
| 3619s | building unit I don't know what you want |
| 3621s | to call it it could turn into a lot of |
| 3623s | different things um but it can also be |
| 3625s | used in some es in some fights and so um |
| 3629s | the other factions in the game they're a |
| 3631s | little bit more cemented in their |
| 3632s | positions they're a little bit more like |
| 3633s | a traditional um RTS game like a |
| 3636s | blizzard RTS if we could you know refer |
| 3638s | to that whereas this is a much more |
| 3640s | fluid faction that can kind of uh Glide |
| 3643s | across the map and there's probably |
| 3645s | going to be more and more creativity |
| 3646s | exhibited with this race with all the |
| 3648s | best players as we're still trying to |
| 3649s | figure out how exactly it can function |
| 3651s | and what it can get away with yeah the |
| 3653s | celestrial are really like a an RTS fact |
| 3656s | that we haven't seen anything quite like |
| 3658s | it yet is this super Mobility that they |
| 3661s | have going to be the defining factor for |
| 3664s | them is it all about flying around with |
| 3666s | that Ark ship you know getting rid of |
| 3668s | some of these creeps expanding all over |
| 3670s | the place and having you know a spread |
| 3673s | infrastructure like how is how is that |
| 3675s | going to work over the long |
| 3677s | term oh my god dude that got low that |
| 3679s | got low that AR ship man very low |
| 3684s | indeed yeah this is a |
| 3687s | this does happen I mean you can lose |
| 3689s | games to creeps obviously for uh you the |
| 3691s | uninitiated at home a creep is a neutral |
| 3694s | unit on the map that if you kill off |
| 3695s | you're going to get you know resources |
| 3697s | as well as whatever the totem it's |
| 3699s | protecting that can give you that kind |
| 3700s | of boost but yeah you can have games or |
| 3702s | maybe the creep ends up killing you you |
| 3703s | get out of position you don't micro |
| 3705s | right yeah well though it's funny right |
| 3707s | because the game is just being released |
| 3709s | now so there's still a lot of mistakes |
| 3711s | like that to be had and I guarantee you |
| 3713s | guys if you download this game you're |
| 3714s | going to have that happen you sometimes |
| 3716s | just like tasteless has it happened to |
| 3717s | him and I have it happened to me and |
| 3719s | it's just part of the learning process |
| 3721s | that one day we will all look back and |
| 3722s | laugh at yeah well you know even in |
| 3724s | Warcraft 3 occasionally a creep ends up |
| 3726s | getting a kill on something in a game |
| 3727s | where that was never supposed to happen |
| 3730s | um so in this game we've got parting |
| 3732s | immediately moving out on the map I |
| 3734s | assume he wants to try to creep into |
| 3735s | that location I think he doesn't want to |
| 3738s | attack into into that until he at least |
| 3739s | has one more Argent |
| 3741s | mhm yeah and you can see the ark ship |
| 3744s | still running around a little bit this |
| 3745s | map is a a little bit different from |
| 3747s | some of the other ones because you have |
| 3748s | these double luminite mines so uh |
| 3751s | because of this a lot of times the uh |
| 3753s | explosion of economy is a lot quicker a |
| 3756s | lot larger as well so I want to point |
| 3759s | out something very important this map is |
| 3761s | unique and that it gives you two |
| 3763s | luminite um resource Gathering locations |
| 3766s | at each expansion so the fact of the |
| 3769s | matter is that partings taken those two |
| 3770s | so that means he has three total yeah |
| 3773s | their their economy is just going to get |
| 3775s | really big really quickly yeah and Max |
| 3778s | head's only taken one yeah um so he's |
| 3781s | going to continue to try to power up but |
| 3782s | I mean he just going to mass |
| 3785s | Argent uh I think so I'm a little bit |
| 3787s | curious about why he would do that on |
| 3789s | this map you know it's a big map yeah I |
| 3793s | mean the way I break this game down so |
| 3795s | far is that parting if he sits on these |
| 3798s | bases for longer he's just going to have |
| 3799s | more money yeah in an RTS game the more |
| 3802s | resources you have as long as you're |
| 3803s | spending it generally speaking the |
| 3805s | further ahead are as long as you've |
| 3807s | teched to the right Tech and made the |
| 3809s | right composition of units well paring |
| 3812s | is teching up a little bit here while he |
| 3813s | clears out this creep Camp uh over here |
| 3816s | on the side of course this is a Health |
| 3818s | Camp uh in the middle of the map and |
| 3820s | right now we have that little rotation |
| 3822s | of Argent so I think this might have |
| 3823s | been Max Ed's plan right he's been doing |
| 3825s | this a lot where he splits off some |
| 3828s | argents he runs around the map he finds |
| 3830s | a collection array and he picks it off |
| 3831s | you know this is part of the problem |
| 3834s | about being so mobile as celester |
| 3836s | if you have bases all over the place |
| 3838s | it's really hard to keep tabs on where |
| 3840s | you're going to be attacked and there's |
| 3842s | a decent amount of infrastructure in |
| 3843s | here it looks like Max is just going to |
| 3845s | come in it seems like six argents is the |
| 3848s | number and I think it can actually |
| 3849s | within four shots or five yeah take out |
| 3852s | that collection array he doesn't really |
| 3854s | lose that much either in fact it's just |
| 3856s | one Argent over here uh that's going to |
| 3858s | try to buy a little bit of time while |
| 3859s | the rest of the reinforcements come over |
| 3861s | here to the right well he is definitely |
| 3863s | going to lose these argents it looks |
| 3864s | like he's trying to get them back a |
| 3866s | little bit by himself a little bit of |
| 3868s | time uh and doesn't really end up |
| 3870s | killing off any Argent there as well but |
| 3872s | look at this a second attack here from |
| 3873s | Max Head coming in and killing off |
| 3875s | another base oh my gosh Jus I think he's |
| 3877s | going to get all of them oh my oh my God |
| 3879s | he's going to actually get all three of |
| 3881s | these I think can he get a scan off he |
| 3882s | scans is the r up there on the arent I |
| 3885s | don't know that it is he's going to run |
| 3886s | around to the side oh my gosh I think if |
| 3888s | he kills this there's going to be no |
| 3890s | income here for parting parting cannot |
| 3892s | be happy about this parting is going to |
| 3894s | have to make a big move very quickly he |
| 3897s | is up in Supply a little bit he is like |
| 3900s | look at this he's bringing all his |
| 3901s | prisms down he knows he's in a tough |
| 3904s | spot now so now it's going to all come |
| 3907s | down to this big Counterattack here from |
| 3909s | paring paring went to three uh |
| 3911s | collection arrays and lost all of them |
| 3913s | his income has been completely shut down |
| 3916s | meanwhile um max said he pulled the |
| 3918s | strategy off but he has to be ready for |
| 3920s | that counter punch yeah he's got to back |
| 3922s | up he's got to make sure he's macroed |
| 3924s | cleanly here maybe a good defensive |
| 3926s | setup with some buildings but I feel |
| 3928s | like if he just kind of holds on he's |
| 3930s | going to be in good shape now look at |
| 3931s | this the ark ship getting caught Max |
| 3934s | Head oh my gosh losing such an important |
| 3938s | structure yeah party now going to try to |
| 3940s | clear out these camps we've got Max head |
| 3942s | trying to close in onto this spot right |
| 3943s | now he's going to trap him so he can't |
| 3945s | get out here if party wants to leave |
| 3946s | he's going to have to go to the right |
| 3947s | but there's another Argent here in the |
| 3948s | way to try to block that off here and |
| 3949s | there's going to be a lot more of these |
| 3951s | argents being shot down as Max said is |
| 3953s | continuing to pursue you know Los the |
| 3956s | Arc ship is rough but it does feel like |
| 3959s | Max head has made a lot of good moves in |
| 3961s | this game now we have parting resetting |
| 3963s | up a base he has those prisms there |
| 3965s | helping out mining as well and it looks |
| 3967s | like he wants to re-expand up here to |
| 3970s | these double luminite mines the question |
| 3972s | is going to be is he too far behind we |
| 3974s | do have about a 10 Supply lead here um |
| 3978s | from Max Head he's continuing to you |
| 3980s | know grow and flourish on the map I |
| 3982s | think parting is doing in some ways some |
| 3984s | ideas that are similar to what we saw |
| 3986s | game two in that he's trying to just |
| 3987s | kind of uh creep on the map and expand |
| 3990s | and and recover but you know there's no |
| 3992s | easy uh direct line to a counter Victory |
| 3996s | here for parting it's going to be a lot |
| 3997s | of hard work yeah it really is uh you |
| 3999s | can see that Supply just kind of peeking |
| 4001s | up here for a Max said he's moving a |
| 4003s | huge group of argents down obviously |
| 4004s | parting cannot engage this right now |
| 4007s | he's backing up trying to get into a |
| 4008s | more defensive spot he does have a |
| 4010s | scanner around this is mostly for |
| 4012s | scouting and checking out where your |
| 4014s | opponent is at uh we'll see if you |
| 4015s | utilize it for anything else in this |
| 4017s | game but right now taking a little bit |
| 4019s | of Engagement he does have his buildings |
| 4020s | here to help out right to refill some of |
| 4022s | this energy uh is that going to be |
| 4024s | enough though to turn the tides on such |
| 4026s | a large Argent force that Max set has |
| 4028s | brought |
| 4029s | down yeah Max set out here I think he |
| 4032s | wanted to see you know could he come in |
| 4033s | here and do a little bit more damage uh |
| 4035s | I think the bigger Arc would have helped |
| 4037s | when he had that but I think the |
| 4039s | infrastructure there was maybe enough to |
| 4040s | defend well hold on a second it looks |
| 4041s | like Max is going to try to come in here |
| 4043s | once more and again just more surface |
| 4045s | area on the grounder spread for Max is |
| 4048s | going to be veryy yeah the overcharge |
| 4050s | here on the AR ship really helping out |
| 4051s | as well right like he's just utilizing |
| 4053s | all of his defensive structures all of |
| 4056s | his defensive abilities here uh to try |
| 4058s | to hold on now uh unfortunately his |
| 4061s | creation chamber is going to be under |
| 4063s | attack he did aggro those creeps I think |
| 4065s | accidentally there and now Max said |
| 4068s | pushing forward he is going to be able |
| 4070s | to deal some |
| 4071s | damage okay he's going to try to push in |
| 4074s | a little bit further now um and this is |
| 4076s | kind of an awkward spot here for parting |
| 4078s | I mean if parting these buildings being |
| 4080s | in the way that kind of helps but |
| 4081s | they're also going to eat a lot of |
| 4082s | damage and eventually fall over time |
| 4085s | yeah maxed is doing a very very good job |
| 4087s | but you know what if he uses up all of |
| 4089s | his energy on these buildings that might |
| 4092s | help parting to end up taking the battle |
| 4094s | at the end of the day but will it be |
| 4096s | enough damage that Max head has dealt I |
| 4097s | guess is the question yeah it looks like |
| 4100s | this structure is actually taking damage |
| 4101s | here from the the CES part's going to |
| 4104s | barely be able to get over here and try |
| 4105s | to save this at time but as he comes out |
| 4107s | that allows Max to once again try to |
| 4109s | push in a little bit further um more |
| 4112s | arents are going to come in here into |
| 4113s | the mix again it's important to watch |
| 4115s | the energy that's on each of the argents |
| 4116s | to see who's got the extra damage it's |
| 4118s | going to be coming out yeah I think |
| 4120s | parting actually has just enough now to |
| 4122s | push Max head back max head hasn't had |
| 4124s | any way to really gain his energy back |
| 4126s | in a quick manner so paring here who has |
| 4129s | been recharging over and over starts to |
| 4131s | take it but as more rallied argents come |
| 4134s | down still in good shape and goes after |
| 4136s | the ark ship again I don't know is that |
| 4138s | a great move I don't know I mean with |
| 4140s | the amount of damage that's coming out |
| 4141s | here it might be an |
| 4143s | overextension uh we see Max's going to |
| 4145s | try to push in here this Arc looks |
| 4146s | really nice here for parting Max |
| 4148s | beginning to back up a little bit the |
| 4149s | overcharge also doing some extra |
| 4152s | damage yeah he seems to be mostly out of |
| 4155s | Argent energy here uh parting comes up |
| 4158s | and starts to push him back once again |
| 4160s | has that overcharge going on and you |
| 4162s | know more argents are coming down Moment |
| 4165s | by moment here from Max Head we should |
| 4166s | point out neither uh player is mining |
| 4168s | theum right now so max head's basically |
| 4171s | trying to close this game out he's |
| 4172s | trying to Brute Force this game um |
| 4175s | Hardin has mined ethereum but is not |
| 4177s | spending it I think he knows once he |
| 4179s | holds this off he's going to have the |
| 4180s | tech lead and he can take that Avenue |
| 4182s | and try to close the game out but really |
| 4184s | for now it's all about parting holding |
| 4185s | Max head off and maxit actually with a |
| 4187s | big Counterattack down here into the |
| 4188s | main oh he's going for the same move |
| 4191s | once again going after a prism first he |
| 4193s | does pick off one of the prisms they do |
| 4194s | get a speed boost after a little bit so |
| 4197s | looks like the other two should be able |
| 4198s | to escape but Max said is very good at |
| 4201s | these moving counterattacks he's doing |
| 4202s | some moving shots as he goes through |
| 4204s | kiing anything that he can trying to |
| 4207s | trade these argents as best as is |
| 4209s | possible but parting will end up killing |
| 4211s | off this Army and I'm starting to wonder |
| 4213s | if paring is not about to take this lead |
| 4216s | back despite being so far behind earlier |
| 4217s | on there's another Counterattack over |
| 4219s | here this seems to be a way to play |
| 4221s | specifically on this map because there's |
| 4223s | two entrances to your main base as well |
| 4225s | as two entr to your expansion so um he's |
| 4228s | doing it but at the same time I do feel |
| 4229s | like Max said is beginning to bleed off |
| 4231s | quite a bit um with the Argent being |
| 4234s | faster for the time being here for |
| 4236s | parting uh it makes it a little bit |
| 4238s | harder here for maxed to actually pull |
| 4240s | anything off as long as you know parting |
| 4241s | is crossing his te's and dotting his |
| 4244s | eyes yeah I think parting is like just |
| 4246s | playing such a solid defensive game in |
| 4248s | this area you know he was at such a |
| 4249s | deficit for a while but you can see the |
| 4251s | supplies are getting a little bit closer |
| 4253s | uh parting still has lots of energy and |
| 4255s | everything is well here uh and he will |
| 4257s | back up you see backs up gets some of |
| 4259s | these heals going on there's more and |
| 4261s | more Argent so like this strategy once |
| 4264s | Max gets ahead this is all he wants to |
| 4267s | do yeah um parting it seems like he's |
| 4271s | kind of towed the line here he's done a |
| 4272s | really good job of you know kind of |
| 4275s | keeping his balance and and keeping um |
| 4278s | max set back and Max set sort of |
| 4280s | bleeding off argents the more he tries |
| 4282s | to attack in if it doesn't actually give |
| 4284s | him that swinging momentum |
| 4286s | uh it's starting to get him further |
| 4287s | behind and the more this game goes on |
| 4289s | the more it seems like parting has |
| 4291s | stabilized he could be ready to spend |
| 4293s | ethereum if it's time I do agree with |
| 4295s | the decision to kind of lock the |
| 4297s | ethereum in for the time being and not |
| 4299s | worry about trying to gather more since |
| 4300s | all he has to do is try to hold well |
| 4303s | right now paron comes up and tries to |
| 4305s | flank Max Ed's Army while he's clearing |
| 4307s | that Health Camp uh and it looks like |
| 4309s | maxed just might have too many argents |
| 4311s | for parting to really do that right now |
| 4313s | I like the idea but doesn't seem to be |
| 4315s | work off not quite he does go back for a |
| 4318s | little bit of heals here from that AR |
| 4319s | ship and has to be careful though right |
| 4322s | like that is a lot of Argent still we |
| 4324s | still have a pretty significant Supply |
| 4326s | Advantage for Max |
| 4328s | Head yeah um Max Head he's out on the |
| 4331s | map again he doesn't have the ability to |
| 4333s | move anywhere near his fast which means |
| 4335s | if he makes one or two mistakes here |
| 4336s | parting can close in and he's going to |
| 4338s | try to do that right now he's got the uh |
| 4340s | overcharge here um on the AR ship which |
| 4343s | is doing just a little bit extra damage |
| 4344s | and that's starting to pile up and now |
| 4346s | uh Max said with this Army kind of in a |
| 4348s | weird spot it's almost maroon down here |
| 4351s | in the bottom right if paron does this |
| 4353s | correctly he might even be able to cut |
| 4354s | this off before he can get back home |
| 4356s | yeah looks like we have a few argents |
| 4358s | being sent for a little bit of a |
| 4360s | Counterattack it's not as many as he was |
| 4361s | sending before right he was sending six |
| 4363s | a lot here he's sending four and parting |
| 4365s | already knew he was going to do this so |
| 4366s | he catches them he is going to get at |
| 4368s | least one kill here yeah and in fact he |
| 4371s | has that movement speed upgrade which is |
| 4373s | really going to be helping him out Mass |
| 4375s | massively and I think over time this is |
| 4378s | going to be the defining feature that is |
| 4380s | the win of this game is just that he |
| 4383s | basically invested in Tech enough where |
| 4385s | he has better argents that means you can |
| 4387s | pursue and get kills more easily because |
| 4390s | Max said's too slow to run away it also |
| 4392s | means you can micro your argents out of |
| 4394s | the fights more easily so they don't get |
| 4396s | sniped in time you can scout more |
| 4398s | quickly you can take out creep camps |
| 4400s | more quickly uh in every sense partin's |
| 4403s | uh argents are bigger better faster |
| 4405s | stronger I tell you that's uh in RTS |
| 4407s | games in general anything any speed |
| 4409s | upgrade any range upgrade those are |
| 4411s | generally the strongest things that you |
| 4413s | can find because you know there's so |
| 4415s | many different tactics that you want to |
| 4417s | pull off can you move around the map |
| 4418s | more quickly than your opponent get into |
| 4421s | better positions well right now uh Max |
| 4424s | head going to go ahead and expand again |
| 4426s | he still does have an Argent |
| 4429s | Advantage uh but let's see if that's |
| 4431s | going to be enough like these are huge |
| 4433s | armies that are going to be going at it |
| 4435s | yeah the argents are going to try to |
| 4436s | come down here and I think party wants |
| 4438s | to try to Fan this out again it is still |
| 4441s | Max said in a position where he has to |
| 4443s | figure out some kind of road to recovery |
| 4445s | parting yeah like we said he's going to |
| 4446s | get that nice Arc he's going to try to |
| 4448s | come in here a little bit further he's |
| 4449s | just trying to microw away the weaker |
| 4450s | units he's going to stutter step micro |
| 4452s | forward here is this enough damage yeah |
| 4455s | I don't think so I think but Max head |
| 4457s | has enough he just has so many coming |
| 4459s | down still now the ark ship comes up and |
| 4461s | he does get on this healing Camp so |
| 4463s | that's something there for parting you |
| 4465s | know he's uh he's still doing a very |
| 4467s | good job despite generally having a |
| 4469s | slightly smaller |
| 4471s | Army yeah um well the fact that he's |
| 4475s | able to heal up is honestly pretty huge |
| 4478s | uh for now it's going to be Max said |
| 4481s | staying out here and you know I it seems |
| 4484s | like that ramp could be a really good |
| 4486s | bottleneck position to try to control |
| 4487s | right you can kind of stay on the low |
| 4489s | ground and just have a better uh angle |
| 4491s | where you can take fights more easily |
| 4493s | but Max said solution to that is to |
| 4495s | fraction off some of his army and he's |
| 4497s | going to come in here and take out so |
| 4499s | much of this infrastructure Max head has |
| 4501s | been so good at this throughout the |
| 4503s | series killing well he doesn't quite get |
| 4505s | that secondary prism very very close to |
| 4507s | it uh but once again getting another |
| 4509s | collection array down parting having a |
| 4513s | very tough time right now retreating |
| 4515s | once again he's down 15 Supply right now |
| 4518s | and Max head is just attacking |
| 4519s | everywhere this is wild maxed who seem |
| 4523s | to be behind for most of this game |
| 4525s | basically waited it out he was patient |
| 4528s | he stayed back it looks like he's going |
| 4529s | to get another collection array here and |
| 4532s | this could actually put part A in a |
| 4534s | position where he might not be able to |
| 4535s | win oh amazingly he actually get that |
| 4537s | out in time to survive just barely that |
| 4539s | Argent anti-air range not quite enough |
| 4542s | uh the trees do block them from going |
| 4544s | forward but look at this he's trying to |
| 4546s | run out of here yeah he'll lose a few |
| 4547s | units here and there but he's done so |
| 4550s | well on these counterattacks on hurting |
| 4552s | that economy still up 10 Supply trying |
| 4554s | to take another battle here against |
| 4555s | parting and in fact his retreating units |
| 4557s | coming to help out against that uh left |
| 4560s | Force here from parting this is a crazy |
| 4563s | back and forth game here um max head has |
| 4566s | done something kind of remarkable in |
| 4568s | that this has started to even out and |
| 4570s | you know right now in supplies he |
| 4571s | actually has a little bit more had that |
| 4574s | one collection array been gunned down in |
| 4577s | the main I would say that this is 100% |
| 4579s | going to be a Max said win but I think |
| 4581s | the question is going to be for now can |
| 4582s | parting accumulate enough of an income |
| 4584s | to create more collection arrays to |
| 4586s | expand and mine and at the same time not |
| 4589s | die to the push here from Max head right |
| 4592s | now uh he does have Max Head kind of |
| 4594s | split off right there so parting |
| 4595s | controlling these engagements a little |
| 4597s | bit running very quickly after some of |
| 4600s | Max head's Army The Arc station coming |
| 4602s | up once again to help out to give him a |
| 4604s | bit of support you saw Max head he was |
| 4607s | looking once again to rotate around but |
| 4609s | parting catches it and forces him |
| 4611s | back little scan over here to see what's |
| 4614s | going on he's going to try to shoot down |
| 4616s | the ark ship that's over in this |
| 4618s | position easily mikro back here it's |
| 4620s | going to be a fight over this healing |
| 4622s | area and paran's going to push in and |
| 4623s | basically try to force a win here on |
| 4625s | this fight and you know what I think |
| 4627s | he's got enough energy on these argents |
| 4629s | that this should snowball he's |
| 4630s | definitely going to win this battle I do |
| 4632s | think that there is a little group of |
| 4633s | argents out in the map here for Max head |
| 4635s | but it might not be enough he's coming |
| 4637s | down for a little bit of a flank but |
| 4639s | that's too little too late at the at |
| 4641s | this point I think the argents are now |
| 4643s | fleeing here to the South going to try |
| 4646s | to do another Counterattack now I don't |
| 4648s | know can we check actually are there |
| 4649s | illuminite bases over on the natural for |
| 4651s | paring here um cuz that's where I think |
| 4655s | those argents are going to be going yeah |
| 4657s | maybe he was trying to get down there |
| 4658s | but it looks like parting heads him off |
| 4660s | on the left side of the map forcing him |
| 4662s | back and look at this oh man trying to |
| 4665s | take over the resource camp and |
| 4666s | everything as well parting is taking |
| 4668s | huge control of the game now he was down |
| 4670s | 10 15 supply for most of this match and |
| 4674s | now he's up almost 20 |
| 4676s | yeah it's kind of crazy uh he's going to |
| 4678s | try to take a fight over here there |
| 4680s | should be enough especially with a wider |
| 4681s | angle here um oh but there's going to be |
| 4684s | attack here from behind parting just |
| 4686s | going to crush this position and there's |
| 4688s | no way for Max said to retreat this |
| 4690s | could be Game ending yeah this flank is |
| 4693s | maybe the nail in the coffin for Max |
| 4695s | said he's going to end up losing all |
| 4697s | these argents he's bringing a few more |
| 4699s | down to fight but I think he knows that |
| 4700s | the writing is on the wall at this point |
| 4702s | GG is called and a very very close very |
| 4706s | tight series here ends up in our Korean |
| 4709s | Pro Gamers favor parting winning against |
| 4712s | Max set this was a hell of a final game |
| 4716s | here you know Max said with the will to |
| 4719s | just hang on and set up for these great |
| 4722s | counterattacks you know the main on that |
| 4724s | map there's two entrances there your |
| 4726s | natural expansion two entrances there as |
| 4728s | well so you can kind of do these driveby |
| 4730s | shootings with the arent you come |
| 4732s | through you take out the key buildings |
| 4733s | in this case it's going to be the col C |
| 4735s | arrays and he really punished him he |
| 4737s | took out I think literally all the |
| 4739s | collection arrays at the first run by |
| 4741s | and then he in the second run by which |
| 4743s | was much later on he actually took out |
| 4745s | the uh what two of three collection |
| 4747s | arrays the party just sort of held on |
| 4749s | hunkered down played defensive tried to |
| 4752s | counter the counterattacks and |
| 4754s | ultimately he wins yeah it was very well |
| 4756s | done from parting uh but that's it for |
| 4758s | us right now let's throw it back to the |
| 4759s | desk and see what they think about that |
| 4761s | series |
| 4766s | finally parting getting himself the |
| 4768s | Victory and in a Celestial versus |
| 4770s | Celestial we're very different too |
| 4772s | before we what we saw from the patch |
| 4774s | obviously we saw a lot of morph cor |
| 4775s | aggression and before the patch this |
| 4777s | time around a lot of argents to start |
| 4779s | things off zg but so many collection |
| 4780s | aray Snipes there are so many of those |
| 4783s | but that was actually a very surprising |
| 4784s | series overall I mean definitely the the |
| 4787s | last we heard just a few days ago maxid |
| 4789s | was doing a lot of these Vector rushes |
| 4790s | and he actually didn't do any vectors at |
| 4792s | all that Series right it was paring who |
| 4794s | defended with vectors against the |
| 4796s | scythes so it was very interesting |
| 4798s | seeing who kind of like was you know |
| 4800s | stronger at certain parts of the game |
| 4801s | and certain aspects of the matchup and |
| 4805s | uh proved to be parting who was best |
| 4807s | yeah it felt that parting was a bit |
| 4808s | cleaner in the early game when it came |
| 4809s | to creeping a little bit quicker getting |
| 4811s | out there but obvious in that first game |
| 4812s | he lost that morph core on the other |
| 4814s | side of the map but the whole idea is to |
| 4816s | be aggressive and build units on the |
| 4817s | other side of the map if you can build a |
| 4819s | creation chamber there it takes so long |
| 4821s | for parting his audence to show up so |
| 4823s | even if paring had a slightly better |
| 4824s | start slightly more efficient you can't |
| 4826s | really fight into Superior numbers if |
| 4828s | you're working with the exact same unit |
| 4830s | and maxat obviously knows how to micro I |
| 4832s | really enjoy the series especially that |
| 4833s | final game James was all over the place |
| 4835s | where it's like I L good for pting oh my |
| 4837s | God now the Max has got it no Ping's got |
| 4839s | it no Max has got it and perhaps losing |
| 4841s | that Arc ship the first time for Max it |
| 4843s | was unnecessary right like why was it |
| 4845s | there in the center of the map and |
| 4846s | because of that he couldn't build any |
| 4847s | more prisms he couldn't take any like |
| 4849s | economic Advantage anymore he was just |
| 4851s | forced to end it but that map is large |
| 4853s | and it's hard to end it with just Ain |
| 4856s | even if you've got a bit of an economic |
| 4858s | lead parting Obviously good enough to |
| 4860s | eventually stabilize recover and get |
| 4862s | economically ahead because he didn't |
| 4863s | have an AR ship anymore I'm maxit of |
| 4865s | this yeah for sure well let's take a |
| 4866s | look at some of the moments from this |
| 4867s | game as well as we had to start things |
| 4871s | off this is again as you were mentioning |
| 4872s | Rod losing that morph core which could |
| 4874s | have become a creation chamber really |
| 4877s | did impede the progress of parting for |
| 4879s | Max head to take an early lead yep and |
| 4881s | of course we had a great run by later on |
| 4883s | with in the bottom side of the he sniped |
| 4885s | The Collection array but I think at that |
| 4887s | point Max had pretty much already had it |
| 4889s | once he successfully held once he took |
| 4891s | control of the Gams on his side of the |
| 4892s | map won a battle or two he was just |
| 4894s | ahead in numbers and pting maybe an RTS |
| 4897s | got but if it's arent against arent and |
| 4899s | Max it's got 10 more you're not going to |
| 4901s | win something we were discussing zg is |
| 4903s | if this continues to be the case with |
| 4904s | collection arrays being so vulnerable it |
| 4907s | might become a case of you need to simp |
| 4909s | City how do you deal with this yeah |
| 4911s | that's uh that's that's what I brought |
| 4912s | up to you know CU this is one of the |
| 4914s | more frustrating aspects to actually |
| 4915s | play as Celestial is that your e economy |
| 4918s | is very fragile so a lot of units can |
| 4921s | actually come in and snipe it um so I |
| 4923s | was thinking maybe Sim City would |
| 4925s | actually play more of a part for this |
| 4926s | race as the game goes on something just |
| 4928s | to block the Argin from all of them |
| 4930s | shooting at once or whatever unit you're |
| 4932s | using to try and get the collection |
| 4933s | array it still gets kind of weird with |
| 4935s | those scythes which I think is one of |
| 4936s | the more annoying ways to play um but |
| 4938s | Max said with those sites in game two |
| 4940s | couldn't quite do it which I assume |
| 4941s | we'll get to eventually this game yeah |
| 4943s | as you said was over with the uh for |
| 4945s | yeah so moving into game number two of |
| 4946s | course we did see a bit more kind of |
| 4948s | tier 2 Tech coming out vectors going up |
| 4950s | against scythes vectors as you can see |
| 4952s | obviously Rod they've got themselves |
| 4953s | blink very available and again |
| 4955s | collection arrays are vulnerable SC do |
| 4957s | more damage the closer they are to the |
| 4959s | Target so that is another danger that |
| 4961s | you're seeing here against this but |
| 4962s | maybe a misclick here yeah perhaps but I |
| 4964s | can't believe we're looking at another |
| 4966s | RTS rep pting has his hands on units |
| 4968s | with blink man that man has already been |
| 4970s | a World Champ okay do we really need to |
| 4972s | see it all over yeah ping play as well |
| 4974s | because looked promising for Max head |
| 4976s | for a little bit and I can absolutely |
| 4978s | see Max head has bu work against |
| 4980s | inferior players where they are just |
| 4981s | chasing after those sides over and over |
| 4983s | again but paring so good in applying |
| 4985s | pressure at the right moments it's like |
| 4987s | hey now you're forced to fight with |
| 4988s | these units you can't just fly around |
| 4990s | harass and take care of cams know you're |
| 4992s | forced to fight and clearly that's not |
| 4993s | what maxed wants to do cuz those vectors |
| 4995s | did really good in the straight up fight |
| 4997s | I also really like that we saw Cals in |
| 4998s | that second game we didn't get to see |
| 5000s | them an like reverse gravity beam but |
| 5002s | their debilitation is very powerful then |
| 5005s | we get into game three which is |
| 5006s | collection array snipe city right and |
| 5008s | there was some good movement but the map |
| 5009s | is large as Rody said so trying to |
| 5011s | actually end the game and effectively an |
| 5013s | all-in because you don't have an arc |
| 5014s | ship precisely is so difficult on a long |
| 5016s | map with these kind of slow units but |
| 5018s | also with the Sim City that you get with |
| 5020s | those power Banks and the um the attacks |
| 5022s | that I forget what they're called now uh |
| 5024s | the nodes is it and so link nodes yeah |
| 5026s | link nodes thank you so it just is a |
| 5028s | combination that really works well and |
| 5030s | then actually getting a perfect concave |
| 5031s | with argents is pretty freaking |
| 5033s | difficult not only are there very few SP |
| 5034s | B on maps where that's possible but then |
| 5037s | they do tend cuz they're a little slow |
| 5039s | so a lot of them do get lined up and |
| 5040s | kind of behind each other so paring just |
| 5043s | you know played a defensive style very |
| 5045s | well and Max said kind of realized that |
| 5047s | it wasn't going to work I guess a little |
| 5048s | too late yeah if you went out those low |
| 5049s | Eco situations where You' got like one |
| 5051s | collection array one prism kind of |
| 5053s | mining from it as well in a lot of |
| 5055s | situations here the arent numbers |
| 5056s | eventually for pting are going to equal |
| 5058s | out here and then you have Defenders |
| 5060s | Advantage if you have sovereign's watch |
| 5062s | available to be able to do damage we saw |
| 5064s | that nonstop right I don't know how many |
| 5066s | times spting used it throughout that |
| 5067s | third game but it really kept him alive |
| 5069s | because he was down in numbers but Max |
| 5071s | will just be kicking himself because it |
| 5072s | was no need to lose that Arc ship there |
| 5074s | was no need to lose that Main in the |
| 5076s | center of the map like it was just there |
| 5077s | I guess to tank a little bit for a camp |
| 5079s | use sovereigns watch one time but like |
| 5081s | it didn't have to be there and if it |
| 5083s | would have been anywhere else I actually |
| 5084s | think that game could have gone maxat |
| 5086s | way he played a good series but faring |
| 5088s | found way yeah it's interesting right |
| 5090s | now because of the diversity of the maps |
| 5093s | that we have in terms of like the |
| 5094s | resource layouts which are very vastly |
| 5097s | different on all of these maps to be |
| 5098s | able to play against yes of course |
| 5100s | collection arrays are being sniped left |
| 5101s | right and center but lost hope creates a |
| 5104s | completely different kind of dynamic for |
| 5106s | these games to be played out on yeah the |
| 5108s | large theorum in the middle oh well |
| 5109s | nobody's touching that well Celestial no |
| 5113s | it's true it's true but it is just a |
| 5114s | large map with actually like a big space |
| 5115s | to have some really sick like concave or |
| 5117s | concave so I know you're a big fan of |
| 5119s | the map and I think it is going to be |
| 5120s | one of the more interesting ones but |
| 5122s | bringing up the maps are a very good |
| 5123s | point it's every map is very unique in a |
| 5126s | way that uh other rtss don't necessarily |
| 5128s | have all the time um but right now |
| 5130s | there's actually no set pattern the mine |
| 5133s | is pretty much set but ethereum can be a |
| 5135s | lot of different options so I think |
| 5138s | we're going to see more play with that |
| 5139s | the longer that we get more you know |
| 5140s | macroecon economical games but yeah it's |
| 5144s | uh parting is just like so good right |
| 5146s | because I really thought that the build |
| 5149s | order was his but then the mid game |
| 5150s | wasn't but then it kind of felt like he |
| 5152s | like shifted gears and then started |
| 5154s | getting more that mid game in game two |
| 5155s | and that helped him bring back I'm just |
| 5157s | upset we gave him blink again man like |
| 5159s | you you're not getting over this those |
| 5160s | vectors are terrifying yeah I mean we |
| 5163s | see Mana play a lot with them as well |
| 5165s | but yeah that is going to be a nightmare |
| 5167s | to play against cuz a man like parting |
| 5169s | with his speed his ability they're going |
| 5171s | to be in your face all the time but yeah |
| 5173s | I'm not surprised that he ended up |
| 5174s | playing the celestials so the cool thing |
| 5176s | about all the units is that they all |
| 5177s | have kind of like a path for upgrading |
| 5179s | right and the vectors that blink you can |
| 5181s | technically upgrade an upgrade for them |
| 5184s | that allows them to recall to the blink |
| 5185s | location which people aren't really |
| 5187s | taking they're just relying on the blink |
| 5188s | right now but there is possibilities |
| 5190s | there but anyway let's check in with the |
| 5191s | brackets and see what's going on so far |
| 5193s | as we have ourselves parting finding |
| 5194s | himself in the Open Bracket final he's |
| 5196s | going to be joined by either Theory or |
| 5198s | Mana which will be a different matchup |
| 5200s | Theory expected to be playing infernal |
| 5202s | here into mana's Celestial so we've got |
| 5205s | a new flavor on the way zg I'm pretty |
| 5207s | excited uh you know Celestial Celestial |
| 5209s | matchup actually ended up being longer |
| 5211s | and just more diverse than honestly I |
| 5212s | was expecting you know I got some air |
| 5214s | units in there for sure and I'm really |
| 5216s | curious what the infernal uh play is |
| 5218s | going to be from Theory because it did |
| 5220s | feel like he came into the tournament uh |
| 5222s | T's tournament and kind of prove that |
| 5224s | Celestial wasn't um unbeatable right um |
| 5227s | and then other people did too and we |
| 5229s | expected that but Theory I think he |
| 5230s | definitely is a theory |
| 5233s | crafter oh I hated that that was |
| 5236s | awful so let's talk about our next |
| 5239s | matchup coming up as we have ourselves |
| 5241s | Mana go that's Max said and parting |
| 5243s | let's check in with Mana there we are |
| 5245s | hey they're on the toes Mana versus |
| 5247s | Theory now what is going to be the big |
| 5249s | change here not a mirror matchup roty I |
| 5251s | want to come to you to talk infernal |
| 5253s | talk to me about infernal talk to me |
| 5255s | about kind of even basic mechanics that |
| 5257s | people should be looking out for here |
| 5259s | well I'm obviously still a ple as well |
| 5260s | but basically when it came to infernals |
| 5262s | at first like the micro is kind of cool |
| 5264s | because you have charges per building so |
| 5266s | you don't necessarily need like four |
| 5268s | Barracks is immediately you can have one |
| 5270s | and there's also top bar ability which |
| 5271s | reset the charges you do need 40 energy |
| 5274s | for that takes a little while to get |
| 5275s | there but it's kind of fun I really |
| 5277s | enjoy the buildup and in the beginning |
| 5279s | basically this what people told me and I |
| 5281s | follow the advice like it's all about |
| 5282s | guns guns are amazing they've got two |
| 5284s | upgrades with guns you can spawn a lot |
| 5286s | of fiends you supply skyrockets and then |
| 5288s | you get a speed upgrade that recently |
| 5290s | got nerfed and it used to be 60 seconds |
| 5292s | and 60 seconds to get both upgrades one |
| 5294s | tier one one tier two now it's 90 |
| 5297s | seconds and 90 seconds and I've really |
| 5299s | felt the difference in my games so it |
| 5301s | kind of feels like I think it would be |
| 5302s | unwise to go straight into gowns because |
| 5304s | because Mana is obviously very good he's |
| 5306s | going to take care of the map and GS |
| 5308s | without their upgrades are a little bit |
| 5309s | underwhelming in my opinion so I'm |
| 5311s | incredibly curious what kind of a style |
| 5312s | theory is going to play they could |
| 5314s | potentially just be a couple of roots |
| 5315s | early on split them into fiends and then |
| 5318s | try to B those camps I don't know I have |
| 5320s | no idea what to expect I do really love |
| 5322s | it I love the magmod on obviously who |
| 5324s | doesn't they are cool but I don't know |
| 5326s | if we really get to see a lot of those |
| 5328s | so that's my question to you zg what |
| 5329s | other units do you think we should be |
| 5331s | looking for other than the gauns other |
| 5333s | than the gauns yeah pretty much magmod |
| 5335s | Don we might see the Weaver um picking |
| 5338s | out some of the bigger units if the game |
| 5339s | goes on I guess and then uh hellborn |
| 5343s | also sometimes make an appearance I'm |
| 5344s | not sure so much in this matchup but it |
| 5346s | is going to be I think a lot in the |
| 5347s | early game how what the maps are and how |
| 5350s | easy it is to get Sim City and turret |
| 5352s | defense for the infernal um because |
| 5354s | again we saw that from theory in the |
| 5355s | previous tournament so I think he's |
| 5357s | going to be really good about having the |
| 5358s | correct placement he might even use the |
| 5360s | top bar ability to spread shroud a |
| 5362s | little bit to make sure that he can |
| 5363s | cover like two base very secely in the |
| 5365s | beginning um but that's just that's just |
| 5368s | a guess because the meta has shifted a |
| 5369s | lot more to one base so I am looking to |
| 5373s | him to see if he can prove the meta is |
| 5375s | not exactly set where I think that Mana |
| 5377s | is going to be bringing out the uh |
| 5379s | typical Celestial meta but I could be |
| 5381s | wrong you know they had so much time to |
| 5382s | prepare for each other and we did see |
| 5384s | already a different Celestial vers |
| 5386s | Celestial than we were expecting well |
| 5387s | Theory really came into his own when it |
| 5389s | came to stormgate obviously we've seen |
| 5390s | him playing other RTS as well but Mana |
| 5392s | is an absolute RTS veteran r yeah but |
| 5395s | kind of goes for both of them of course |
| 5396s | Mana started off in brood War so long |
| 5398s | ago was already yeah was already a |
| 5400s | really good Brar player in the early |
| 5402s | days with star 2 wings of Liberty Mana |
| 5404s | became one of the very best produces in |
| 5406s | Europe won International tournaments and |
| 5408s | honestly 14 years later Mana is still |
| 5410s | one of the best protos players but that |
| 5412s | man has just been so excited over |
| 5413s | stormgate since the very first day it |
| 5415s | was announced he has read every single |
| 5417s | article he has watched every single |
| 5418s | announcement video Mana was all out but |
| 5421s | I think the same can be said for Theory |
| 5422s | who was also a good protos player in |
| 5424s | Starcraft didn't quite have the same |
| 5426s | success as Mana but these were just two |
| 5428s | guys that from the very first |
| 5429s | announcement the very first screenshot |
| 5431s | they saw they're like oh I'm all in so |
| 5433s | it's really cool to see these two in |
| 5435s | these early days obviously of this |
| 5436s | beautiful game already square off |
| 5438s | against each other one sler unit that we |
| 5440s | did not see in our mirror matchup is the |
| 5442s | animancer and that could potentially |
| 5444s | play a role here what do you think about |
| 5446s | the animancer yeah dark prophecy right |
| 5448s | that's the big ticket item basically |
| 5450s | storm dark prophecy yeah so it you know |
| 5452s | slows it slows it doesn't do as much |
| 5454s | damage initially but then it does more |
| 5455s | damage after 2 seconds so that slow is |
| 5457s | really impactful for that extra reason |
| 5459s | it also can mean maybe you get all your |
| 5461s | units attacking because they can't |
| 5462s | escape as easily that could absolutely |
| 5464s | be big I mean we're definitely seeing a |
| 5466s | lot more experimentation with |
| 5468s | spellcasters you know because I think |
| 5470s | logically it's like we just make units |
| 5471s | go Burr right we're RTS players that at |
| 5473s | the very least gets us you know decent |
| 5475s | way I suppose but the spellcasting we |
| 5477s | know that it takes a little bit of time |
| 5478s | for people to realize that they might |
| 5480s | even be abusive you know thinking of |
| 5482s | infestors back a wings of Liberty took |
| 5483s | some time to realize how good that was |
| 5485s | so I think we're going to be seeing a |
| 5486s | little more of those spellcasters and uh |
| 5488s | definitely uh should be worried about it |
| 5490s | that is a good point that you bring up |
| 5492s | cuz a lot of our games in our celesio |
| 5494s | vers celesio was kind of obvious that we |
| 5495s | were going to end up in a lot of tier |
| 5496s | one Wars for the most part but it does |
| 5499s | feel like in the formative times of of |
| 5501s | an RTS people really kind of figure out |
| 5503s | the tier one and it takes a while to |
| 5505s | really get into the tier 2 and all the |
| 5507s | spell casting but I feel it's been |
| 5508s | slightly accelerated because of |
| 5509s | everybody's experience with RTS as of |
| 5511s | recent R yeah it's really hard to say |
| 5513s | cuz I don't think we've seemen too many |
| 5514s | high level Inferno against Celestial |
| 5516s | matches yet on this patch so I'm really |
| 5518s | curious how does t res survive till the |
| 5520s | mid game once he gets those good tier |
| 5522s | two upgrades then his army probably |
| 5523s | becomes a lot more competitive mana's |
| 5525s | going to make that very hard on him but |
| 5527s | obviously you don't want to be stuck on |
| 5528s | tier one forever like I don't know Mana |
| 5530s | could very well go for vectors very |
| 5532s | early on and just be in his space and |
| 5534s | they do very good against gowns early on |
| 5536s | if the gowns are not in high enough |
| 5537s | numbers yet and they don't have upgrades |
| 5539s | so yeah it's hard to say what I do know |
| 5541s | is that purple Vortex really hurts your |
| 5543s | account High numbers so it's not even |
| 5545s | that oh once I am tier two as Inferno |
| 5548s | once I get a bunch of guns out I'm |
| 5549s | always going to be fine cuz you're going |
| 5551s | to have a tough time fighting those yeah |
| 5553s | no for sure for sure I mean technically |
| 5555s | speaking if we really get deep into this |
| 5557s | game Celestial has access to other units |
| 5559s | like if you think about from the Legion |
| 5561s | Hall you've got you've got archangels |
| 5563s | you've technically got sarapin which |
| 5564s | were doing something weird before the |
| 5566s | patch now that's been fixed uh but |
| 5568s | archangels are a Potential Threat yeah |
| 5570s | archangels actually can be really fun I |
| 5572s | think that's definitely one of the units |
| 5573s | that you see in you're like cool that's |
| 5575s | cool yeah and then they get flames on |
| 5577s | the ground too with an upgrade and we've |
| 5579s | seen them you know if you get enough of |
| 5581s | them they can impact a battle just one |
| 5583s | or two might not actually be enough but |
| 5585s | one or two can really be good at |
| 5587s | harassing Minds just jump on top of all |
| 5590s | those workers and let it do its thing |
| 5592s | give its like Mountain King ability |
| 5593s | where Buffs up and stuff and gets big |
| 5595s | yeah exactly and you're good to go I've |
| 5597s | been having a lot of fun with that and |
| 5598s | we might we might get to see it |
| 5599s | depending on how long the game goes yeah |
| 5600s | we may we may you look like you want to |
| 5602s | say something about no not at all like |
| 5604s | I'm like yes that exactly has happened |
| 5605s | to me they jumped in and I was then just |
| 5607s | thinking about my imps but I was like |
| 5609s | What if I get the Imp upgrade and I blow |
| 5611s | it up immediately like is that is that |
| 5612s | is that worth it no probably not but |
| 5614s | that's the first thing I was thinking of |
| 5616s | but I haven't seen too many of them they |
| 5617s | have jumped into my Army a few times and |
| 5619s | looked really cool but if you have like |
| 5620s | 30 gowns you're like that looks really |
| 5622s | cool now you lost your unit mate like so |
| 5624s | that doesn't do much for you but there's |
| 5626s | a lot of cool things you I'm like |
| 5627s | theorizing how many imps it would take |
| 5628s | to blow up an archangel but I don't |
| 5630s | think it's worth it probably a decent |
| 5632s | amount quite a lot but it would look |
| 5635s | very cool quite a lot you've also got |
| 5637s | lots of different Flyers that say |
| 5639s | infernals have for of course we Pro I |
| 5641s | mean oh yeah technically there are a few |
| 5644s | yeah I might be in a highlight with some |
| 5645s | uh Shadow Flyers apparently um I found |
| 5647s | out that they're not only good versus |
| 5649s | that air like the Scythe for instance I |
| 5650s | was actually facing someone who was |
| 5652s | turtling and going mass air Celestial |
| 5654s | and I was getting awfully frustrated but |
| 5656s | I was like let's try this Shadow flyer |
| 5657s | thing and it was great versus the air |
| 5659s | and then I was like oh but he has so |
| 5660s | much Sim City and static defense and I |
| 5662s | look at their upgrade and it's like |
| 5663s | literally a dive bomb that blows up |
| 5665s | buildings and I'm like they're the |
| 5666s | perfect answer let's just make a billion |
| 5668s | of these that could be really fun um I |
| 5670s | actually don't know how that balance |
| 5672s | works out I don't know if I was just you |
| 5674s | know generally better or what but again |
| 5676s | like these are all very hypothetical |
| 5678s | because as Rody said Celestial verse |
| 5680s | infernal on this patch not really |
| 5682s | fleshed out General agreement is that |
| 5684s | infernal gets better the long uh the |
| 5686s | longer the game goes but is it going to |
| 5689s | get to that point can the prove it can |
| 5691s | get to that point yeah definitely if |
| 5692s | you're just uh kind of tuning in at the |
| 5694s | moment here we are just waiting to get |
| 5695s | this game good to go that's why we're |
| 5696s | having a nice little chat here about |
| 5698s | what the possibilities are cuz there's |
| 5699s | probably a lot of people out there that |
| 5701s | are aware that now the game has truly |
| 5703s | gone free to play here and as I look at |
| 5706s | my watch it is so you can get it on |
| 5708s | Steam but also there's a lot of |
| 5710s | opportunity for you to get involved as |
| 5712s | well and start learning a brand new RTS |
| 5714s | but thank you very much guys it is time |
| 5715s | to get to our next series so without |
| 5718s | further Ado let's make welcome to the |
| 5720s | stage here Mana is going up against |
| 5722s | Theory |
| 5726s | [Music] |
| 5736s | he |
| 5739s | [Music] |
| 5758s | the is going to be on the way in just a |
| 5760s | moment's time here these two players |
| 5762s | going head-to-head and trying to figure |
| 5763s | out who is going to be victorious theory |
| 5765s | has a lot of hype behind him when it |
| 5767s | comes to stormgate as he has been able |
| 5769s | to play at the very highest level but |
| 5771s | this is mana's opportunity here to put |
| 5773s | all of his practice into worth and try |
| 5776s | and take out theory on the main stage |
| 5779s | that's it for me let's head over to the |
| 5780s | commentator team zg and Rotterdam who |
| 5783s | will be bringing you this match |
| 5784s | all right welcome everyone we are magic |
| 5787s | we actually blinked just like vectors |
| 5789s | right over to the cast we are great to |
| 5791s | go we're good to go all right Rody we |
| 5793s | already talked a little bit about the |
| 5794s | potentials of this but again kind of |
| 5795s | want to emphasize I really feel like |
| 5797s | Theory he's taken to this game in a way |
| 5799s | that I feel like a North American could |
| 5801s | you know like really great at the theory |
| 5803s | and really great at the beginning of a |
| 5805s | game too and then it's a matter of |
| 5807s | keeping it through so I'm definitely |
| 5808s | looking at him maybe a little biased for |
| 5810s | North America as well but I also love |
| 5812s | mana and love him to do well as you said |
| 5815s | really really intensely interested in |
| 5816s | this game I think he's got a couple of |
| 5818s | tricky builds we' be looking out for |
| 5819s | yeah that goes definitely for both of |
| 5821s | them they've both been so excited |
| 5822s | they've been going all out pretty much |
| 5824s | since the very first day and I think the |
| 5825s | moment that Mana got his hands on the |
| 5827s | celestials at first was like I'm just |
| 5828s | learning I'm just learning then he kind |
| 5830s | of stuck with it he's like yeah this is |
| 5832s | the way to go taking a look at the map |
| 5834s | Vos we're going to start off on the map |
| 5835s | that we just ended that previous series |
| 5837s | on it's obviously a very large one I'm |
| 5839s | so excited to see how the early game |
| 5841s | looks we have successfully loaded into |
| 5843s | to our second and best of three of the |
| 5845s | upper bracket the top right side we're |
| 5847s | looking at a main base of Team liquids |
| 5849s | very own |
| 5851s | mana and in the bottom left we do have |
| 5856s | Theory playing infernal the only non |
| 5859s | Celestial here going for an iron Vault |
| 5861s | right off the bat we're on a very large |
| 5864s | map and so this early game harassment is |
| 5866s | going to take a little while this is the |
| 5868s | hexen it's got a little skull it flies |
| 5870s | around deals a decent amount of damage |
| 5872s | but it is your early game Scouts it |
| 5875s | Scouts it throws out a couple of skulls |
| 5876s | for some damage perhaps and then it |
| 5878s | recalls back out still a very very |
| 5880s | useful unit for killing camps you |
| 5882s | definitely don't want to lose it Mana is |
| 5884s | indeed going to go for the star Forge |
| 5886s | immediately this is something we've seen |
| 5887s | him do in some of his YouTube videos and |
| 5890s | obviously on the stream as well the man |
| 5892s | has been absolutely loving the vectors |
| 5894s | just like faring used them a little bit |
| 5895s | in game too even though that was maybe |
| 5897s | perhaps more of a response of what maxed |
| 5899s | was doing man just loves opening with |
| 5902s | them and he's so annoying cuz these guys |
| 5904s | are fast right they will get so much |
| 5905s | value out of these quick units and this |
| 5908s | is going to make life hell for Theory |
| 5909s | here in the yig again oh wow very quick |
| 5911s | recall actually um I mean I do think |
| 5914s | harassing Celestial is is very annoying |
| 5917s | as the celestial player you really don't |
| 5919s | want to be having to drop any type of |
| 5920s | energy in the early game but we're |
| 5922s | seeing that proxy Vector coming on out |
| 5925s | very good at taking control of the map |
| 5927s | and potentially taking control of camps |
| 5929s | first Camp attempt here from Fury if uh |
| 5933s | that one unit dies with the skull on it |
| 5934s | you do get a fend which has already |
| 5936s | happened and it looks like this will |
| 5938s | happen with a vector coming on in so |
| 5940s | it's a little awkward it's going to |
| 5941s | snipe a lot of the units actually take |
| 5944s | the money away from Theory you see that |
| 5947s | mana's prioritizing getting the hex in |
| 5949s | here that's the only real range unit |
| 5950s | that theory has at the moment now the |
| 5952s | fiends are quick and obviously it's not |
| 5953s | something that Mana can ignore with his |
| 5955s | vector and they are getting some hits up |
| 5957s | there is it flower flower flow the F |
| 5960s | gets it didn't see it yeah that that's |
| 5963s | actually a little interesting I |
| 5964s | definitely think it would have been |
| 5964s | worth doing it but you know what it kind |
| 5966s | of looks like his micro isn't perfect |
| 5969s | yet with the vectors he looks like he |
| 5970s | wants to shoot and pull back but |
| 5972s | sometimes he's missing the shot could be |
| 5974s | perhaps a little bit of nerves as well |
| 5975s | as the brute splits up we're going to |
| 5977s | get a few more fiends blinks away but |
| 5978s | fiends are very quick and these quick |
| 5980s | fiends are going to get a few more hits |
| 5982s | off so Mana loses one of his very |
| 5983s | expensive vectors here in the early |
| 5985s | moment and obviously it's so important |
| 5986s | for Mana to keep them alive make them |
| 5989s | snowball cuz one or two that's not going |
| 5991s | to be enough to battle multiple fiends |
| 5993s | getting on top of these units over and |
| 5994s | over again Hanna wants to get up to four |
| 5996s | or five and that's where you can really |
| 5998s | start applying a lot of pressure to |
| 5999s | Theory yeah I mean good use of the |
| 6001s | fiends right in the speed boost it's |
| 6004s | working out okay but eventually the the |
| 6007s | vectors yeah are going to abuse this |
| 6009s | exactly like you see the fiends having |
| 6011s | more of a promise but more vectors are |
| 6013s | on the way a couple more fiends going to |
| 6015s | try to help out here but it does seem |
| 6017s | like this Camp is going to go to the way |
| 6019s | of Mana what else is happening actually |
| 6021s | behind all of this little Skirmish |
| 6023s | around on the camp we've got a double |
| 6025s | iron Vault opening on the side of theory |
| 6027s | so he can build multiple brutes it's |
| 6029s | very early by the way to already have to |
| 6031s | seems like he does have a expand as well |
| 6034s | I'm curious to see how many workers do |
| 6035s | we have on an expend the theory of |
| 6037s | course started creeping got a bit of |
| 6038s | bonus money he's already been building a |
| 6040s | lot of units can't really imagine that |
| 6042s | he's got a big economy Mana is now |
| 6044s | starting to get into the main base |
| 6046s | potentially a little flank coming in |
| 6047s | from the right side with a couple of |
| 6048s | these very quick fiends oh Mana could |
| 6051s | actually make a little mistake he does |
| 6052s | of course have blink but two of those |
| 6054s | vectors are very low on HP and I |
| 6055s | actually think the theory is going to be |
| 6057s | able to get the kill on quite a few of |
| 6058s | them even drops the Shroud Stone yeah |
| 6060s | very nicely done top bar ability doesn't |
| 6062s | cost very much but it's extremely |
| 6064s | helpful in these scenarios I mean this |
| 6066s | is one of the big questions you know the |
| 6068s | vector Rush it's not that it necessarily |
| 6070s | ends the game right off the bat it just |
| 6071s | takes such solid map control and takes |
| 6073s | the camps which have really become |
| 6075s | important to the meta but this is not |
| 6077s | going I think as smoothly as you would |
| 6079s | hope I think Theory definitely has faced |
| 6081s | this before he's figured out some way to |
| 6082s | early game deal with it |
| 6084s | because the fiends are a good choice if |
| 6086s | he had gone G I wonder how that would |
| 6087s | looked like I I agree with you but on |
| 6089s | the other hand it also kind of feels |
| 6090s | that theory is a little bit stuck his |
| 6092s | Supply is not very high obviously on |
| 6094s | this map an expand is always going to be |
| 6096s | relatively far away he does not have it |
| 6099s | yet nobody really wants to be on double |
| 6101s | iron Vault building brutes of a one base |
| 6103s | economy it just doesn't really feel like |
| 6105s | that's going to go anywhere as he's |
| 6106s | trying to get a meat farm up actually |
| 6108s | I'm starting to believe that Mana is |
| 6110s | exactly getting what he's been looking |
| 6111s | for cuz obviously it's impossible for |
| 6113s | Theory to get anything done right on the |
| 6115s | other side of the map yeah that is |
| 6117s | currently the problem there might be |
| 6118s | more skirmishes around outside of |
| 6121s | Theory's bases but ultimately the vector |
| 6123s | plan is kind of still working out now |
| 6125s | that farm right there is going to give |
| 6126s | you some Fel Hogs to help defend the |
| 6128s | camp and that I don't know if it's going |
| 6130s | to push it over the edge unfortunately |
| 6132s | just the fact that it is ranged versus |
| 6134s | melee makes it extremely difficult for |
| 6136s | the infernal especially because these |
| 6138s | range units are so quick they are about |
| 6140s | as quick as these fiends obviously they |
| 6141s | have the blink ability so they can blink |
| 6143s | away there is another flower that Mana |
| 6145s | can pick up hly I'm afraid for theory |
| 6147s | that he's running out of steam as the |
| 6148s | first two guns do show up they don't |
| 6151s | have any of the upgrades and against |
| 6152s | four vectors those guns simply don't |
| 6154s | stand a chance yeah yeah there is |
| 6156s | definitely some promise but |
| 6157s | unfortunately couldn't really fully stop |
| 6160s | the pressure you know and couldn't take |
| 6161s | control over any of the map can't |
| 6163s | threaten any counterattacks either it's |
| 6164s | so large you need try to send the fiends |
| 6166s | over there there's sovereign's watch to |
| 6168s | go ahead and defend so very tricky Game |
| 6171s | Theory you know I definitely think he |
| 6173s | knew is going to be a problem and he |
| 6175s | know if maybe he had really collapsed on |
| 6177s | all the vectors at once it be different |
| 6179s | but one at a time was not enough they've |
| 6180s | bulked up to number of five and they're |
| 6182s | just speeding around having fun it's so |
| 6185s | difficult though right cuz you just feel |
| 6186s | as a theory as theal play you don't have |
| 6189s | too many units you don't want to be |
| 6190s | building a crazy amount of units early |
| 6192s | and completely destroy your own economy |
| 6194s | you're just fighting with one or two |
| 6196s | units at a time not only are manai units |
| 6198s | incredibly quick and ranged they've got |
| 6200s | blink as well so if they ever go a |
| 6202s | little bit too deep and you think you've |
| 6204s | got them you don't really have them |
| 6205s | because it's going to Blink away and |
| 6207s | Mana is having a field day here and that |
| 6209s | is going to do it for the first game and |
| 6211s | Mana with his proxy star Forge straight |
| 6214s | into the vector get the job done yeah |
| 6216s | that worked out eventually a little |
| 6219s | Tessy in the early game maybe a little |
| 6220s | this micro as he kind of gets warmed up |
| 6222s | in the competitive Spirit but eventually |
| 6224s | it did wi out I'm going to be honest I'm |
| 6226s | actually kind of surprised that map made |
| 6228s | it into the map Pool for Theory when I |
| 6229s | was talking about the maps on the desk I |
| 6231s | was imagining some of the maps or your |
| 6233s | natural is maybe closer to main first of |
| 6235s | all you got a ramp to work with exactly |
| 6237s | a ramp to work with and you might even |
| 6238s | have a camp very close to Natural for |
| 6240s | instance and then he could also get some |
| 6242s | static defense to help out and that map |
| 6245s | just really makes it difficult to do |
| 6246s | that even if he got static defense it |
| 6248s | wouldn't cover everything maybe covers |
| 6251s | his base but then again he's pinned so |
| 6253s | ultimately the game is still very |
| 6254s | difficult yeah I'm sure Theory thought |
| 6256s | about this being a possibility of Mana |
| 6258s | that this was going to be his build and |
| 6260s | maybe he thought if I can just get that |
| 6261s | Speed camp very quickly then I can kind |
| 6263s | of trade out units one by one but if |
| 6265s | it's one base against one base I'm going |
| 6267s | to get a slightly better economy than |
| 6269s | you and eventually things will go well |
| 6271s | cuz I do have control of that Speed camp |
| 6274s | but unfortunately it did not go that way |
| 6276s | I mean perhaps because the map is so |
| 6278s | large he thought it would take a little |
| 6280s | while before the vectors would show up |
| 6281s | in high numbers and he would just barely |
| 6283s | have enough time to get enough units out |
| 6284s | but yeah I'm with you I think it would |
| 6286s | have made more sense to go for one of |
| 6287s | the maps where you have a ramp leading |
| 6289s | into your natural so at you can try to |
| 6291s | get a tower up there and take full ADV V |
| 6293s | of the tower I mean this map so wide |
| 6295s | open that even if you get a tower I mean |
| 6297s | mana's just going to fight literally |
| 6299s | anywhere where the tower is not at yeah |
| 6301s | exactly oh my goodness okay we're on |
| 6303s | Jack and Ma here in the top right we got |
| 6305s | Mana uh bottom right we do have Theory |
| 6308s | this is a um this this is a difficult |
| 6310s | map in general you see it's a u- shape |
| 6312s | kind of maybe some scrap station vibes |
| 6314s | from the early days of wings of Liberty |
| 6317s | and it has been difficult to play versus |
| 6318s | Celestial in fact you know some people |
| 6320s | just said don't play it at all but uh |
| 6322s | Theory allowing these Ms through he did |
| 6324s | have some B of his own and I think |
| 6326s | you're right he had a plan for the last |
| 6327s | map I'm not saying he just didn't think |
| 6329s | about it he had a plan didn't work out |
| 6331s | let's see what his plan is here yep I've |
| 6333s | had a very painful game on this map as |
| 6335s | well by just do into so many mostly this |
| 6338s | power bank stars and it just felt like I |
| 6340s | could not attack as the infernal play |
| 6342s | here where eventually was this |
| 6344s | everywhere this is actually the play to |
| 6346s | stop Vector rushes apparently you have |
| 6347s | to block them actually being able to |
| 6349s | build the building so that's why that |
| 6351s | was happening unfortunately it does come |
| 6353s | down and you obviously can't kill a |
| 6354s | building and from a morph core it builds |
| 6356s | faster as well so yeah this is um |
| 6360s | already a little frustrating I think CU |
| 6361s | even blocking it for a couple extra |
| 6363s | seconds I think means a lot for the |
| 6364s | defense M last game OB the theory did |
| 6366s | lose his hexen relatively early now he |
| 6369s | clearly tried to save it he was microing |
| 6370s | with it but in the end he just didn't |
| 6372s | have that range damage anymore because |
| 6374s | Mana was able to justify the kill on it |
| 6376s | even if he lost one of the Fons after to |
| 6378s | that point it was basically just pure |
| 6380s | melee versus Range which good micro is |
| 6382s | always going to go in favor of the range |
| 6384s | player this time I already like it a |
| 6386s | little bit more when it it comes out of |
| 6388s | theory here because not only does he |
| 6389s | have that hexon here obviously he's |
| 6391s | going to try to keep alive he's going to |
| 6392s | have a couple of guns so it's not just |
| 6394s | those melee units that Mana has to worry |
| 6396s | about mana's going to have to worry |
| 6397s | about this range damage as well and yeah |
| 6399s | if M wants to go up this ramp over and |
| 6401s | over time that's going to be okay for |
| 6403s | Theory cuz theory is going to get so |
| 6405s | many free shots off and he's got the |
| 6407s | healing cam to fall back to yeah you |
| 6409s | know before the patch there was a lot |
| 6411s | more of the actual Mor core rushes into |
| 6413s | the main base this is a vector rush and |
| 6415s | I think that the Little Sim City here |
| 6417s | and yeah the map difference as far as |
| 6418s | how that natural is constructed how |
| 6420s | close it is to your main has already |
| 6422s | really worked wonders so good pick from |
| 6425s | him a jagged mom maybe kind of uh |
| 6427s | needing another book from the general |
| 6429s | populace maybe it's okay but the vectors |
| 6431s | ain't done yet cuz we kind of had some |
| 6433s | faith for Theory last game and that |
| 6434s | disappeared at some point yeah but now |
| 6436s | we do have that Health cem though which |
| 6437s | I do think is going to help Theory a |
| 6439s | whole lot more theory is actually just |
| 6440s | going to go out and get on top of this |
| 6442s | star Forge one more VOR SPS it was stuck |
| 6444s | for a little bit obviously it does have |
| 6446s | blink but all three vectors are very low |
| 6448s | in HP and Mana can't really take control |
| 6450s | of that Health camps I actually really |
| 6452s | like the star for Theory yeah know I'm |
| 6454s | with you 100% the vectors are going to |
| 6455s | do what they do best actually trying to |
| 6457s | still take some of the camps the healing |
| 6459s | one that's uh the Y and that is the star |
| 6462s | Forge gone so Theory he's in a great |
| 6465s | position definitely can play out to the |
| 6467s | mid game I feel like at this point Mana |
| 6469s | question for him is how is he going to |
| 6470s | evolve from this because the Meat Farm |
| 6472s | is there as well well this is so |
| 6474s | annoying cuz Mana doesn't want to take |
| 6475s | any damage from those units can't really |
| 6477s | steal the camp away actually think Mana |
| 6480s | is in a very problematic spot he is |
| 6481s | going to be able to find one G here and |
| 6483s | that's going to be a very easy pick off |
| 6484s | for these three remaining vectors it's |
| 6486s | going to take a long time before Mana is |
| 6488s | going to get any additional units and |
| 6490s | three low HP vectors that is absolutely |
| 6492s | something that theory can deal with yeah |
| 6494s | absolutely so we have Mana trying to |
| 6496s | expand at this point by the looks of |
| 6498s | things we do have the vector starting to |
| 6499s | heal up thanks to the flowers on the |
| 6501s | field two of them in the middle actually |
| 6503s | where there's also some very nice |
| 6505s | resource camps little bit of an |
| 6506s | engagement Vector nice blink away there |
| 6509s | it seems like it really wants to get |
| 6510s | that gone ah is going to get it now the |
| 6512s | flowers I think are gone so he would |
| 6514s | have to take his own healing Camp to get |
| 6515s | them healed up again yep he did get two |
| 6518s | there for free basically didn't lose any |
| 6519s | of the units so well done but I think Z |
| 6522s | can survive that he's going to be able |
| 6523s | to creep he should be able to take an |
| 6525s | expand in the near future I don't really |
| 6527s | think that Mana is going to continue |
| 6529s | pushing into a meat farm into a shroud |
| 6531s | Stone as well I'd love to see the up a |
| 6533s | second base yeah actually thought that |
| 6536s | was going to be the plan maybe waiting a |
| 6537s | little longer for some technology he is |
| 6539s | going to take care of the vision Camp |
| 6541s | which is a pretty easy tier one kill get |
| 6544s | that vision of the middle of the map and |
| 6546s | then you also have Lum I believe to the |
| 6548s | left and that's a little bit more |
| 6550s | difficult to actually take so takes the |
| 6552s | vision it's very difficult to get across |
| 6554s | the map unless you try and go to the |
| 6555s | right you can kind of sneak but can |
| 6558s | usually happen and the vectors do want |
| 6560s | to start trying to get on this take |
| 6562s | whatever they can down before it |
| 6563s | approaches her base tiny bit of a creep |
| 6565s | Jack here by Mana but fortunately for |
| 6567s | Theory the creeps are not very strong |
| 6569s | yet Mana really wants to get that final |
| 6571s | go gets it again gets a fiend as well |
| 6573s | might even be able to find a brute here |
| 6575s | in the middle of nowhere apparently does |
| 6577s | not want to stick around I think we're |
| 6578s | just going to Bell over the camps for a |
| 6579s | little bit we made a good point there CU |
| 6581s | in the beginning we already spoke about |
| 6582s | how different some of these maps are |
| 6584s | where it's like all right you always |
| 6585s | start off in a mine where you can Min |
| 6587s | illuminite and you should always have at |
| 6589s | least a secondary Resource as well but |
| 6591s | after that it gets weird this is one of |
| 6592s | these m where it's weird do have very |
| 6594s | easy access to that second luminite but |
| 6597s | hard to mine more theum here you can go |
| 6600s | for The High Ground but basically means |
| 6601s | dedicating a base to only ethereum as a |
| 6603s | couple of these Arin are going to get |
| 6605s | surrounded first one got picked up |
| 6607s | second one gets surrounded by the fiends |
| 6609s | great pickups here by Theory yeah |
| 6610s | honestly playing with fire right there |
| 6612s | he narly avoided being surrounded once I |
| 6614s | thought he was going to be you know |
| 6615s | thanking God for that one but |
| 6616s | unfortunately did come back in is now |
| 6618s | losing some of these argents and uh |
| 6621s | might even lose another one the heal |
| 6623s | could come in but the healing stops from |
| 6625s | The Arc ship once it's attacked so don't |
| 6627s | really do so much and I guess that was |
| 6629s | another op option for healing the |
| 6630s | vectors but they're back to being |
| 6631s | injured one just went down again it's |
| 6633s | going to be enough you know Mana he is |
| 6635s | going to have def his advantage that is |
| 6637s | absolutely kicking in and so he will be |
| 6639s | able to maybe even take his own Camp |
| 6640s | again theory he did finally expand by |
| 6643s | looks of things don't know how saturated |
| 6645s | it is he's continuing to Rally forth he |
| 6646s | thinks he's got a shot it's a very large |
| 6649s | map and obviously without any of the |
| 6650s | tier to upgrades these units are not |
| 6652s | particularly fast but the the fiends are |
| 6653s | quick and this is the once more trying |
| 6655s | to trap a couple of these units |
| 6657s | unfortunately for him this time he's not |
| 6658s | getting it does get the hexon spell off |
| 6660s | on one of the arent kills that arent |
| 6663s | turns it into a fiend as well but he's |
| 6665s | going in deep yeah seraphim actually was |
| 6667s | the choice here that's uh that's |
| 6669s | interesting it's going to help out |
| 6670s | against camps right now obviously |
| 6671s | helping out against the ground Army not |
| 6673s | a lot that shoots up here brutes coming |
| 6675s | out as a cheap option they do provide |
| 6678s | good fod if they actually get in range |
| 6680s | to attack they're pretty good too but |
| 6681s | they don't shoot up don't any workers |
| 6683s | yet on that second base of theory who |
| 6685s | does have a lot of camps but eventually |
| 6687s | you would like to get a few more workers |
| 6689s | on your expent as well so this point I |
| 6691s | have the feeling that mana's probably |
| 6692s | out mining him already if not that's |
| 6694s | going to happen in the near future |
| 6696s | surprised that he still wants to push I |
| 6698s | mean there are not too many creep cams |
| 6700s | you could still do cu the only two that |
| 6702s | have not been done yet are the strong |
| 6704s | ones you need a slightly bigger Army for |
| 6705s | that so we just going to continue |
| 6707s | battling over this Health Camp yeah one |
| 6710s | stoam did go down second one's very very |
| 6712s | low I can see why Theory thinks he can |
| 6714s | actually make this work but this is also |
| 6716s | Mana pushing away from his natural so |
| 6718s | he's not actually getting a full extend |
| 6719s | of Advantage so you know maybe this is a |
| 6723s | contest around the camp but I'm not sure |
| 6724s | it's a contest around mana's base you |
| 6726s | know what I mean so Theory does need to |
| 6727s | worry about the next phase of this game |
| 6730s | yep well apparently we went up to nine |
| 6732s | Ins at this point perhaps has been using |
| 6733s | some of the overcharge as well on his |
| 6735s | buildings to set the charges saturated a |
| 6738s | little bit quicker cuz earlier we looked |
| 6739s | he had one now he's got nine so that |
| 6741s | went incredibly quick Mana is starting |
| 6743s | to get a few more Ain out i' say I think |
| 6747s | it's time to slow things down a little |
| 6748s | bit and let's Stack Up and perhaps even |
| 6750s | take another base over here zg yeah that |
| 6753s | might just happen so with the seraphim |
| 6755s | not just purely defending they will be |
| 6758s | very helpful cleaning up some of these |
| 6759s | camps obviously they can also fly so |
| 6761s | they can go harass the main base in a |
| 6763s | really obnoxious way as you could call |
| 6764s | these spawn positions close by air |
| 6766s | that's exactly what's happening Great |
| 6768s | Scout with the skull and uh even flew |
| 6770s | back into it so damage and vision we got |
| 6773s | those Shadow Flyers out and they are |
| 6775s | very similar to Scourge guys they do |
| 6777s | suicide bomb into the air units they can |
| 6780s | upgrade later on which you might see as |
| 6782s | well I surprised that he went straight |
| 6783s | Shadow Flyers rather than just a few |
| 6785s | more guns that can help out defensively |
| 6788s | but then obviously later on in the |
| 6789s | straight up fight too I am surprised it |
| 6791s | does seem kind of expensive to get all |
| 6792s | the way up there |
| 6794s | but this is definitely um this is |
| 6797s | actually some of the first time I've |
| 6798s | seen this exact type of game right so I |
| 6802s | can't really read the p the might also |
| 6804s | be having some trouble but battle Flyers |
| 6807s | definitely going to be great for |
| 6808s | stopping any harassment in the main base |
| 6811s | and then I guess that's really all he |
| 6812s | wanted the has been Supply blocked for a |
| 6814s | little bit right now so you could really |
| 6815s | use an additional Meat Farm or two now |
| 6817s | especially with the creeps coming back |
| 6819s | if we are going to creep we're going to |
| 6820s | get a couple of extra fiends as we do |
| 6823s | find these units Theory gets the kill |
| 6825s | and at least one of them the second one |
| 6826s | is very low on HP and I think that |
| 6828s | should be a kill too well done this uh |
| 6831s | control here isn't really working out |
| 6833s | you know if you're losing out on the |
| 6834s | ground these serams are great for going |
| 6836s | around and trying to snipe those camps |
| 6837s | but he can't get to a good enough number |
| 6840s | and he can't harass with the m the |
| 6841s | shadow Flyers running around doesn't |
| 6842s | seem really working out as a plan for |
| 6845s | Mana yet he does stay ahead on the |
| 6847s | supply and obviously got his collection |
| 6849s | array over on a not not a hidden base |
| 6852s | but one that I find is often |
| 6855s | unchecked yeah in the center CU you |
| 6857s | don't really get there easily all the |
| 6858s | guns are going to go for it going to get |
| 6860s | on top of a couple of these prisms first |
| 6861s | one goes down second one goes down and |
| 6863s | the third one gets popped as well so |
| 6865s | it's going to be a little bit harder for |
| 6866s | Mana to mine all the ethereum here I |
| 6868s | don't know if it's okay to go in this |
| 6870s | deep zombie grub the this is where you |
| 6872s | need the shadow flyer upgrade honestly |
| 6874s | this is actually kind of a comical |
| 6875s | number of power PS not that it's a bad |
| 6877s | idea it's a good idea just it does look |
| 6879s | a little silly the way to break that is |
| 6881s | actually the sh Shadow flyer upgrade so |
| 6883s | I think we're going to eventually see |
| 6884s | that might even see them do their own |
| 6886s | kind of harassment into the main through |
| 6888s | the middle of the map uh very |
| 6890s | interesting stuff the the tides have |
| 6891s | certainly turned you know it is now Mana |
| 6893s | who does need to worry about kind of |
| 6895s | turtling for a little bit longer the |
| 6897s | fact that he's got another collection |
| 6898s | array where Theory hasn't checked is a |
| 6900s | big deal it's interesting that even went |
| 6902s | double fire that quickly it's obviously |
| 6904s | going to give him access to a lot of |
| 6905s | flying units this does seem like it's an |
| 6907s | all righty fight for Mana one of the |
| 6909s | anman does get surrounded so that is |
| 6911s | nice but theory is going to lose the |
| 6913s | vast majority of his units here only |
| 6915s | gets out there with the hexon a couple |
| 6917s | of the fiends that yeah that was |
| 6918s | actually not a very good fight at all I |
| 6920s | mean put it bluntly that was uh him |
| 6922s | getting getting us around and I think he |
| 6924s | thought that was going to be more |
| 6926s | effective than it was and I think we had |
| 6927s | a bit of a panic space bar in storm |
| 6930s | Gates which he brought the shadow Flyers |
| 6931s | over and they didn't help so uh an |
| 6934s | overextension but the size of the map |
| 6935s | does help and then you do have that top |
| 6937s | bar charge for the infernals in case you |
| 6939s | need to ASAP make units we're seeing the |
| 6941s | animancer come out I'm doubtful that she |
| 6943s | has dark propy at this point but that is |
| 6946s | going to be the big spell that we're |
| 6947s | going to be looking at in one one of the |
| 6949s | bigger fights later on Y no it's going |
| 6951s | to get the think as well is is going to |
| 6953s | come out get a couple of shots up as a |
| 6955s | theory is also creeping relatively |
| 6957s | difficult Camp you can see the yellow |
| 6958s | bars fill up means that the creeps are a |
| 6960s | lot more powerful right now and they are |
| 6962s | way more difficult to take out obviously |
| 6964s | a lot of money to fight over both |
| 6966s | players trying to take control perhaps |
| 6968s | over this Vision camp in the center I |
| 6970s | like mana's Army a little bit more right |
| 6971s | now than Theory's Army who has been |
| 6973s | investing a lot in infrastructure at the |
| 6975s | bottom and obviously getting an extra |
| 6977s | expend up I don't think we can quite |
| 6979s | fight the army of Mana at this point no |
| 6982s | not quite and this actually is uh it is |
| 6984s | going to be interesting as much as this |
| 6987s | game has been back and forth and right |
| 6989s | now it seems like Mana has control the |
| 6992s | general sentiment is that infernal gets |
| 6994s | stronger as the game goes but we're not |
| 6997s | quite there yet not too many of those |
| 6999s | tier two or three units we do have the |
| 7001s | Weaver coming in it can yank actually |
| 7004s | okay well that one just went down so |
| 7005s | that's not going to be helpful the Sim |
| 7007s | City is trying to help out here there's |
| 7008s | dark prophecy that black hole in the |
| 7011s | middle of the fight dealing so much |
| 7013s | damage the first two seconds not as much |
| 7015s | as the next four but it also slows you |
| 7018s | so it's insanely difficult to get away |
| 7020s | this is a very powerful army with one |
| 7021s | Mana who got on top of the towers |
| 7023s | immediately as well manag to destroy |
| 7025s | those does not seem that the can now |
| 7027s | crank out an army that's capable of |
| 7029s | fighting these many Ain with obviously |
| 7031s | the Animes in the back still have a |
| 7033s | couple of flying units and we even have |
| 7035s | the rocket launcher showing up firing a |
| 7037s | couple of missiles as these conclaves |
| 7039s | and iron vaults are going to get taken |
| 7040s | out the is in a lot of trouble Onie gr |
| 7043s | he absolutely is unfortunately the |
| 7045s | Weavers I'm just going to say it they're |
| 7046s | kind of derpy look at them what are they |
| 7048s | doing who knows don't even know uh but |
| 7050s | unfortunately that means that they don't |
| 7051s | get often uh close enough to the |
| 7053s | powerful units like the animancer to |
| 7056s | actually pull them and that's really |
| 7057s | what you need to do and then they can |
| 7059s | take him out maybe fairly fast but this |
| 7061s | is just Retreat Retreat retreat in |
| 7063s | theory did even phases we have a magon |
| 7065s | in the mix and if we can get a very big |
| 7067s | stomp off perhaps we can deal some great |
| 7069s | damage sometimes these fights can start |
| 7071s | snowballing as we have the Imp coming in |
| 7073s | as well from the bottom and they will |
| 7074s | start blowing themselves up that's |
| 7076s | actually a fantastic move on the side of |
| 7078s | theory but there are still a lot of |
| 7080s | orins left over and there is still that |
| 7083s | uh dark prophecy being casted that is |
| 7085s | just so incredibly powerful against the |
| 7087s | guns but the magon is having a bit of an |
| 7089s | impact on the fight as well yeah I think |
| 7090s | you can see what would have happened if |
| 7092s | all of the units of theory worked out in |
| 7094s | the first fight but defending that high |
| 7095s | level um High Ground base actually kind |
| 7098s | of weird uh the Sim City can definitely |
| 7100s | work against you which it might have in |
| 7102s | this particular battle I do believe this |
| 7105s | is mana's game guys so I'm kind of |
| 7106s | wrapping up the analysis but the magmod |
| 7109s | look how effective they were when they |
| 7111s | finally got into it they just are the |
| 7113s | only thing here now love the Imp as well |
| 7114s | the flanking imp that was awesome |
| 7116s | getting a couple of very good |
| 7118s | connections and Mana definitely |
| 7119s | respecting those IM blowing up does not |
| 7121s | want to overstay his welcome but Mana is |
| 7124s | probably feeling pretty confident he |
| 7125s | knows he has taken out a lot of these |
| 7126s | Hightech units these very expensive |
| 7128s | units theory is using more more of his |
| 7131s | top bar abilities that is the fourth one |
| 7133s | that is not a regular shroud Stone it's |
| 7135s | actually a shroud stone that deals a lot |
| 7136s | more damage temporarily eventually turns |
| 7138s | into a regular Tower but it is not |
| 7140s | enough to deal with all these a no I |
| 7143s | mean the Army has been thinned out so |
| 7145s | totally understandable that theory |
| 7146s | thinks he might be able to muster up a |
| 7148s | defense and and try and recover in some |
| 7150s | other way but he has been put down to |
| 7152s | his two original bases you do run out of |
| 7154s | minerals like most rtss I'm not sure |
| 7156s | where anywhere close as of yet but two |
| 7158s | bases against a continuously expanding |
| 7161s | Mana who |
| 7163s | actually collection array die maybe the |
| 7164s | shadow wait I actually don't know how |
| 7167s | that died well the shadow Flyers are |
| 7168s | coming in now and that's exactly what it |
| 7170s | was okay you got the upgrade got it |
| 7172s | that's actually a very cool move and |
| 7173s | that's obviously going to slow the |
| 7174s | economy of Mana down a little but I |
| 7176s | think Mana knows that he's got theory on |
| 7178s | the ropes and he's going to try to get |
| 7179s | him out of there taking out one more |
| 7181s | Tower there is another Weaver here for a |
| 7184s | little bit Derpy seems like we were |
| 7185s | trying to get an abduct up but that did |
| 7187s | not quite work either the last few guns |
| 7190s | are just not strong as we've got another |
| 7192s | dark prophecy a few more imp can the IM |
| 7194s | make the difference well they might in |
| 7197s | the actual Army well not not in this one |
| 7199s | actually so no but even if they did then |
| 7202s | they would have sacrificed all the |
| 7203s | economy we do have the energy being |
| 7205s | healed up here on the Argent they're |
| 7207s | back up to that full damage when that |
| 7208s | happens and not that they really need it |
| 7210s | but just making sure more Shadow Flyers |
| 7212s | trying to change the economic position |
| 7215s | of Mana but I think it's too far gone |
| 7216s | really fun way to play though with those |
| 7218s | Shadow Flyers getting that upgrade and |
| 7220s | start blowing up some buildings dealing |
| 7221s | economic damage like that it's a shame |
| 7223s | it felt that if Theory had like another |
| 7225s | minute I think his army would have been |
| 7227s | so much better and then he would have |
| 7228s | been able to find some of that economic |
| 7230s | damage maybe those magmod would have |
| 7232s | been there a bit earlier and then you |
| 7233s | can fight while you're dropping that |
| 7235s | extra strong shroud Stone temporarily |
| 7238s | it's just was a perfect timing by Mana |
| 7239s | and got to give it to Mana was very |
| 7241s | decisive getting up that ramp over here |
| 7243s | on the left side it looked a bit scary |
| 7245s | there was a big army there ahead of him |
| 7246s | there were a couple of towers but Mana |
| 7248s | believed in his army he went for it and |
| 7250s | he gets the two Z here in the semifinals |
| 7254s | of the upper bracket that means that |
| 7256s | Mana is going to play a little bit of |
| 7257s | celestial versus Celestial and the upper |
| 7259s | braet final vers spting pretty fun game |
| 7262s | Z gr I felt like we did get to see two |
| 7265s | very different games cuz that first game |
| 7266s | looked nowhere near like that second one |
| 7269s | no the first game was certainly uh I |
| 7271s | don't know if cheese is the right word |
| 7273s | but it was a very well executed build |
| 7275s | order is certainly the case and so that |
| 7277s | just worked out as the plan the second |
| 7279s | game was certainly more back and forth |
| 7281s | and I it is difficult to read the game |
| 7284s | because it is so new we're kind of |
| 7285s | learning along with you guys but I |
| 7287s | really think that you're right if |
| 7288s | another minute happened the infernal |
| 7290s | Army does get very very good so if it |
| 7293s | had better positioning if it had another |
| 7295s | minute then I think it actually would |
| 7296s | have surprised you and how powerful it |
| 7298s | is maybe dark prophecy would have |
| 7299s | changed that to be fair but it is |
| 7301s | actually pretty powerful so I think we |
| 7303s | were reaching a point where he might |
| 7304s | have been actually doing well off the |
| 7306s | beginning and the middle but the end |
| 7308s | just wasn't quite soon enough basically |
| 7310s | for him and maybe that M chose of the |
| 7312s | first map wasn't quite it right maybe we |
| 7314s | should have gone for literally any other |
| 7315s | map because Mana is so cheeky with his |
| 7317s | proxy star Forge and those very quick |
| 7320s | vectors I do believe that the boys at |
| 7322s | the desk are ready so I'm very curious |
| 7323s | to see what James and tastosis have to |
| 7325s | say about that best of |
| 7327s | three thank you we have polish power |
| 7329s | from the celestial profit as Mana is |
| 7331s | taking it two Z unfortunately for Theory |
| 7333s | now falling down into the lower bracket |
| 7335s | as they mentioned joining me tastosis to |
| 7337s | talk about this match and to start |
| 7340s | things off Dan man vectors are pretty |
| 7342s | useful units dude I love the vector like |
| 7345s | we were talking about it off camera |
| 7347s | obviously while we were watching but I |
| 7348s | think that that is like my favorite unit |
| 7350s | design I just I love their mobility and |
| 7353s | everything I'm kind of surprised that |
| 7354s | they still shoot up I feel like that's |
| 7355s | going to be taken away eventually but |
| 7357s | they are a lot of fun like to see them |
| 7360s | get microed around especially when he |
| 7361s | gets the Speed camp it's like you can't |
| 7364s | catch those things yeah very difficult I |
| 7365s | mean you look at that first game |
| 7367s | tasteless and thinking about how do |
| 7369s | brutes and gaunts even try and deal with |
| 7371s | the proxy like that it's very difficult |
| 7373s | it's one of those games that you know |
| 7375s | the the snowballing started and it |
| 7377s | really got totally out of control and |
| 7379s | closed it out you know you take out one |
| 7380s | of those brutes um then the fiends right |
| 7383s | after that the vector isn't killed off |
| 7385s | the damage starts to pile up it's all |
| 7387s | about melee units that aren't fast |
| 7389s | versus Range units that are uh and so |
| 7391s | that was game one very straightforward |
| 7393s | and then we move on to game two jaged Mo |
| 7395s | of course which is a very different map |
| 7398s | when it comes to how things play out |
| 7400s | compared to Isle of dread obviously yes |
| 7402s | okay there's some kind of aggressive |
| 7403s | tendencies interesting things like the |
| 7405s | hexon trying to block the creation of |
| 7407s | the star Forge of the start of game but |
| 7409s | you can tell that man's played against |
| 7411s | that before because he moves it back and |
| 7412s | forth and he knows eventually he's going |
| 7414s | to get ahead of the hex and be able to |
| 7415s | land somewhere so well done by him but |
| 7418s | it felt like Theory had a very good plan |
| 7420s | for the map right like he held on he |
| 7421s | actually started to get his Tech up he |
| 7423s | was looking pretty good but I tell you |
| 7425s | those anime anwers when they come out |
| 7427s | that is a hard unit to play against yeah |
| 7429s | very brutal as they were mentioning in |
| 7431s | the cast here t dark prophecy not only |
| 7434s | is it doing damage which slowly ramps up |
| 7436s | over time but the fact that it slows as |
| 7438s | well you've got to be on your toes yeah |
| 7441s | you really have to be in the position |
| 7443s | where you're not going to be affected by |
| 7444s | it ahead of time cuz once they get in |
| 7445s | there and get that damage done I mean |
| 7447s | things are going to snowball very |
| 7448s | quickly let's take a look back at the |
| 7450s | games then and see how they went down |
| 7452s | Mana with the two Z Victory to start |
| 7453s | things off Dan as we were mentioning |
| 7455s | before these vectors so brutal we were |
| 7457s | also talking about the fact that we like |
| 7459s | how kind of uh the Fel Hogs are used in |
| 7462s | the the game obviously you kind of put |
| 7463s | them in certain positions to try and |
| 7465s | like even help with creep other |
| 7467s | scenarios which is kind of cool for the |
| 7468s | game yeah know I I like a lot of the |
| 7471s | designs of these early game uh |
| 7473s | interactions but when you see the |
| 7475s | vectors come out and just out micro |
| 7477s | absolutely everything in this early game |
| 7480s | you have to feel bad for Theory yeah |
| 7482s | obviously we moved into game two Mana |
| 7484s | whilst not being totally successful with |
| 7486s | his vectors to begin things I mean even |
| 7488s | just running rings around those armies |
| 7491s | here tasteless and just sniping out |
| 7493s | gauns which dies so fast of vexas is |
| 7495s | strong too I thought this part was kind |
| 7496s | of interesting this little push that he |
| 7498s | had going on over here eventually it was |
| 7500s | driven back here by Mana and I got to |
| 7502s | say you know if on JAG M which has been |
| 7504s | a very polarizing map obviously because |
| 7506s | we had iterations of the game where |
| 7508s | there was a lot of rushes immediately |
| 7509s | from Air I think in a dramatic macro |
| 7513s | game this is a great version of storm |
| 7515s | gate right here the back and forth the |
| 7517s | expanding and pulling into each side of |
| 7519s | the map it was a lot of fun to watch one |
| 7521s | of the most powerful things on Dragon |
| 7522s | mall for a long time even before this |
| 7523s | patch was eventually getting those Siege |
| 7525s | camps and using those as a push tool |
| 7526s | down we did eventually see that in the |
| 7528s | later stages of this game uh once Manor |
| 7530s | established some control yeah yeah and |
| 7532s | this was a little bit tough here you can |
| 7534s | really see the animers with the dark |
| 7536s | prophecy ruining everything here for |
| 7538s | Theory one thing I really like about |
| 7540s | Theory's infernal by the way is his |
| 7541s | Weaver usage I you know that's |
| 7543s | definitely one of my favorite units in |
| 7545s | this game as well and I think he does a |
| 7547s | good job there but this like this push |
| 7550s | just hit a little bit too hard and with |
| 7552s | all the AOE coming in it feels hard to |
| 7556s | deal with that as infernals right now |
| 7558s | man using that yellow beam that you |
| 7560s | could see there as well that's called |
| 7561s | Purify one of the top bar abilities from |
| 7563s | Celestial which recovers the energy on |
| 7565s | any units that are inside it so that's a |
| 7567s | very powerful tool in tier 2ess that you |
| 7570s | can use alongside the the argents for |
| 7572s | example or any units on the celestial |
| 7574s | side very different Celestial way to |
| 7576s | play I guess we'd say they were playing |
| 7577s | right you know if if you're one of those |
| 7580s | guys who's like oh Russian you don't |
| 7581s | know how play the game well this is an |
| 7583s | example of playing Celestial powering up |
| 7585s | taking up going for a push uh and |
| 7587s | ultimately taking a win very impressive |
| 7589s | yeah yeah I mean there was even moments |
| 7591s | where obviously we saw Theory get very |
| 7594s | aggressive there and it seemed like the |
| 7596s | Legion Hall came up pretty quickly here |
| 7598s | from Mana it felt like maybe he had to |
| 7599s | get the serap out a bit quicker for the |
| 7601s | defense which isn't necessarily the most |
| 7603s | useful defense unit but it's got its |
| 7605s | uses elsewhere of course yeah yeah I |
| 7607s | mean I've seen them take decent |
| 7608s | engagements against G and stuff in the |
| 7610s | past uh you know obvious he's trying to |
| 7612s | utilize some of their Mobility there and |
| 7614s | everything yes uh it felt like Theory |
| 7616s | started to get something going but you |
| 7618s | know mano's defense just a little bit |
| 7620s | too good and just the timing of the |
| 7622s | animancer plus the catapults very hard |
| 7624s | to deal with do you think Mana can |
| 7626s | extrapolate anything from the celestial |
| 7627s | versus Celestial that he just watched |
| 7629s | prior uh I mean it does seem like |
| 7632s | there's this this thing in Celestial |
| 7633s | vers Celestial which is really about are |
| 7635s | you able to Tech or is this going to be |
| 7637s | just a hardcore uh no theorum Rush um |
| 7641s | cuz we've had a lot of those games we |
| 7643s | had a lot at the um stormgate Showdown |
| 7645s | we had uh at least two of them here uh |
| 7647s | today so far and um you know with it |
| 7649s | being a very Celestial heavy uh |
| 7652s | tournament uh for this small show match |
| 7654s | here at ewc yeah um we'll have to see he |
| 7656s | either it's going to be one of two |
| 7657s | things either he's going to be able to |
| 7659s | to play that game where he's going to be |
| 7660s | rushing and doing a better job than we |
| 7662s | saw party um do as an example or we're |
| 7664s | going to have him you know Tech around |
| 7666s | it and play a very long and drawn out |
| 7668s | macro game like we saw in the last game |
| 7669s | where he beat Theory M you bring up a |
| 7671s | good point about the kind of the the |
| 7673s | eventual having so much theorum in terms |
| 7675s | of the games that happened before |
| 7676s | because for a lot of those games that |
| 7677s | were in your tournament the t a showdown |
| 7680s | nobody mind any ethereum but even in |
| 7682s | this one technically there was a bank of |
| 7684s | like 2,000 ethereum or either partings |
| 7686s | or Max side but it's just because they |
| 7688s | can't transition in some of these |
| 7689s | Celestial versus Celestial matches to |
| 7691s | try and get some of those high tech |
| 7692s | units well Max Head was not letting that |
| 7694s | happen he is Mr Argent so uh I |
| 7698s | understand why that was happening to |
| 7699s | parting there but I think that Mana is a |
| 7700s | very different type of player from Max |
| 7702s | said so I think the series between him |
| 7703s | and parting is going to be really |
| 7705s | Dynamic actually like Mana like really |
| 7708s | puts a lot of thought into it like you |
| 7709s | can see the way that he played there |
| 7710s | against infernals he's like let me get |
| 7712s | out some vectors do some harassment Tech |
| 7714s | up a bit further and then you know get a |
| 7717s | really high quality Army together so |
| 7718s | that's I don't think that's indicative |
| 7720s | of someone who's just going to make |
| 7721s | argents for sure for sure all right |
| 7723s | let's check in with the bracket then |
| 7724s | here as we have two matches down but |
| 7726s | we've got plenty more to come we now |
| 7728s | know that parting versus Mana will be |
| 7730s | our Open Bracket final to see who goes |
| 7731s | through to the Grand Final do bear in |
| 7733s | mind that that will be a best of five |
| 7735s | everything from here a before that of |
| 7737s | course is best of three so max said and |
| 7740s | Theory down towards the bottom the my |
| 7742s | question I guess to either of you if you |
| 7744s | want to take this is can Theory kind of |
| 7747s | break this hold cuz infernal is having a |
| 7749s | bit of a rough time here versus these |
| 7751s | celestials yeah in each of the |
| 7753s | iterations that we've had here of |
| 7754s | stormgate you know one faction looks |
| 7756s | really strong really broken then a |
| 7757s | couple adjustments come in and and |
| 7758s | things change and um look we've got |
| 7760s | three celestials and then just one uh |
| 7763s | infernal you kind of got a root for |
| 7764s | Theory here I I hope he can he can pull |
| 7766s | it off I think he's a very smart player |
| 7768s | he's been playing since day one of the |
| 7770s | closed beta um but it's going to be |
| 7772s | tough for sure your thoughts yeah I |
| 7774s | think uh maxed is generally a pretty |
| 7776s | aggressive player every game that I've |
| 7778s | ever seen him play Warcraft 3 Starcraft |
| 7780s | 2 and now here in stormgate he's an |
| 7782s | aggressive player and that's something |
| 7783s | that I think theory has a lot of |
| 7786s | practice against because parting is |
| 7787s | generally aggressive they're teammates |
| 7788s | they played against each other a lot I |
| 7790s | think Theory's going to know what needs |
| 7792s | to do and I think we're going to see him |
| 7793s | again later on in the bracket makes |
| 7795s | sense makes sense I I was just kind of |
| 7797s | thinking bigger picture for a second |
| 7799s | it's really exciting to talk about a new |
| 7800s | RTS just like getting to like nerd out |
| 7803s | and about exactly all the |
| 7805s | possibilities I mean realistically we |
| 7808s | don't know what is the true solution to |
| 7811s | a lot of the problems that are being |
| 7812s | thrown at us I mean even the players |
| 7814s | don't to us an extent here and it's |
| 7815s | great to kind of see them also try and |
| 7817s | solve these puzzles at the same time |
| 7819s | tasteless yeah it's fun to see all these |
| 7821s | crazy ideas come out who's got the best |
| 7823s | one and then of course you've got the |
| 7824s | developers who are trying to figure out |
| 7826s | okay is this fair is or do we like this |
| 7828s | is this the direction we want the game |
| 7829s | to go um and here we are in this very |
| 7832s | new version of storm gate obviously it |
| 7833s | just came out what like an hour and a |
| 7835s | half ago uh and we're we're seeing uh |
| 7838s | what they're trying to pull off here but |
| 7839s | yeah I always feel like the best time or |
| 7841s | maybe the funnest time uh that |
| 7842s | ultimately becomes the most nostalgic |
| 7844s | time for RTS is right at the start right |
| 7846s | when everybody's getting in all right |
| 7847s | well we've got plenty more to talk about |
| 7849s | but before we do that and before we get |
| 7850s | to the next games we're going to do is |
| 7852s | go to a short break when we return We |
| 7854s | have got more from the stormgate |
| 7855s | Invitational Tournament here at the |
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| 8257s | all right welcome back ladies and |
| 8257s | gentlemen to the stormgate Invitational |
| 8259s | Tournament we are done with our first |
| 8261s | round of matches now we find ourselves |
| 8263s | in the upper bracket to figure out who |
| 8265s | is going to move through to the Grand |
| 8266s | Final joining me once again tast dosis |
| 8268s | to talk about our next upcoming match |
| 8270s | Mana looked great tasteless and now he's |
| 8273s | found himself in this match we've known |
| 8275s | man has been a great player for a long |
| 8277s | time it's going to be interesting to see |
| 8279s | how exactly he plays in this he does |
| 8281s | seem to stray away from the way a lot of |
| 8283s | the celestials play I do feel like um |
| 8286s | you get a situation in any RTS game |
| 8288s | where one guy gets one idea that kind of |
| 8290s | works and everybody starts to copy it |
| 8292s | and maybe it's a carbon copy of it maybe |
| 8294s | it's an improvement uh but Mana does |
| 8296s | seem to have his own approach so um it |
| 8298s | should be a pretty novel mirr matchup |
| 8299s | going into this yeah someone sets the |
| 8301s | meta Trend and then somebody's then got |
| 8303s | to try and solve that that person |
| 8304s | becomes the most studied player uh and |
| 8306s | in in Celestial versus Celestial osis |
| 8309s | getting out of the Argent versus Argent |
| 8312s | trap that exists currently is difficult |
| 8314s | unless it's like lost hope for example a |
| 8316s | huge map where people can be a bit more |
| 8317s | flexible yeah well I think if you stay |
| 8319s | back pretty defensively and your base |
| 8321s | doesn't have two entrances it is doable |
| 8324s | you can you can switch up that Tech a |
| 8326s | little bit I think that's what we're |
| 8327s | going to see from Mana I don't think |
| 8328s | he's going to go super aggro I don't |
| 8330s | think he's going to be trying to make |
| 8331s | pure arent I think he's going to be the |
| 8333s | one that leads the tech forward so we're |
| 8336s | going to see if paron can actually end |
| 8337s | up dealing with that because at the Tess |
| 8339s | TV showed down he could not deal with it |
| 8342s | yeah it's true um we had a lot of rushes |
| 8345s | but I do feel like this matchup may |
| 8347s | start to pull more and more away from |
| 8348s | that you know I think one of the best |
| 8350s | ways to learn an RTS game is to start |
| 8351s | out by rushing and then you learn how |
| 8354s | much you can get away with because your |
| 8355s | opponent teaches you how to stop it hey |
| 8357s | some of the best players in previous RTS |
| 8359s | has started off extremely cheesy and |
| 8361s | then figured out as time went on how to |
| 8363s | macro and then that became they became |
| 8365s | dangerous because they were able to |
| 8366s | macro and be great cheesers as well but |
| 8369s | it is Mana versus parting parting of |
| 8371s | course comes in with all the hype of |
| 8373s | Earth as people expect him to be going |
| 8375s | far in tournaments any tournament he |
| 8377s | plays in fact artosis uh and I would say |
| 8380s | people would see him as the favorite for |
| 8381s | this one well I mean he's kind of |
| 8383s | dominated most of the stormgate scene |
| 8385s | through the alpha the beta you know the |
| 8387s | the early regardless of what race he |
| 8389s | played yeah and I mean he's a former 2 |
| 8391s | world champion like what do you want |
| 8392s | like he's one of the best Gamers there's |
| 8394s | ever been so yeah he's he's definitely |
| 8396s | the favorite uh but I'm actually I'm |
| 8398s | choosing Mana here I actually think that |
| 8400s | he's going to bring something that |
| 8401s | parting isn't quite ready for a lot of |
| 8403s | partings parting has pushed the meta |
| 8405s | forward quite a bit and mana's going to |
| 8408s | know what he does all right well let's |
| 8409s | figure out it is a best of three here |
| 8411s | the winner will move on into that Grand |
| 8414s | Final make ready as we get ready for the |
| 8417s | stage as we have ourselves Mana versus |
| 8419s | parting in a best of three |
| 8422s | [Music] |
| 8435s | [Music] |
| 8450s | regardless of which arti yes it is these |
| 8451s | two are very familiar with each other |
| 8453s | but now we're here for the stormgate |
| 8454s | Invitational Tournament one of them goes |
| 8456s | to the Grand finals let's head over to |
| 8458s | zg and rdam for all the |
| 8461s | action versus Mana that is an exciting |
| 8465s | match in any RTS that you would see and |
| 8468s | here we are in stormgate Celestial vers |
| 8470s | Celestial some bold predictions on the |
| 8473s | desk what you think of that Rody I can |
| 8474s | absolutely see it cuz I have seen Mana |
| 8476s | play a lot of this Argent versus Argent |
| 8478s | stuff and obviously Bing is known for |
| 8481s | fantastic micro but mana's got very very |
| 8483s | good micro as well I think he's got |
| 8485s | great understanding of how much he can |
| 8487s | get away with economically and he is the |
| 8489s | guy that if you give him enough time |
| 8490s | that can sneak out a couple of Crees and |
| 8492s | his cream movement is really cool |
| 8494s | because I've already seen some fantastic |
| 8495s | flanks when they come in from the bottom |
| 8497s | they start blowing up a bunch of those |
| 8499s | Arin so that is going to be very fun in |
| 8501s | the top right side I believe we took a |
| 8503s | little look at the main base of Team |
| 8505s | liquids Mana spotting is of course the |
| 8508s | blue Celestial player in the bottom left |
| 8510s | ah I feel like this could start off very |
| 8513s | very similar to what we saw paring try |
| 8515s | to do against maxit yeah and let's see |
| 8517s | if this time we can keep that morph cor |
| 8519s | life I hope colaris wasn't mind this |
| 8521s | anecdote but we were watching this in |
| 8523s | the first series and he just literally |
| 8524s | watched this and was like why didn't I |
| 8526s | think of this usually using the uh |
| 8529s | sovereign's watch on the arkship to help |
| 8531s | take care of the camp there's always |
| 8533s | neat things to find out when you watch |
| 8534s | these guys so this is obviously |
| 8536s | something that is well practiced amongst |
| 8537s | the pros and they are going to take the |
| 8539s | camps and then yeah do we we see him |
| 8541s | actually try and do that Rush again I |
| 8543s | kind of think if you do the exact same |
| 8545s | thing both players and right now we are |
| 8547s | obviously mirroring each other and |
| 8548s | there's a good chance that we continue |
| 8549s | to mirror each other for a little while |
| 8551s | I would personally much rather be the |
| 8552s | defender because it just feels a little |
| 8554s | bit more natural maybe you can get some |
| 8556s | Superior concaves going for yourself as |
| 8558s | well it is obviously difficult because |
| 8560s | you can't give up all the the camps in |
| 8562s | the center you can't give up the vision |
| 8563s | Towers you are going to have to fight a |
| 8565s | little bit away from your natural but if |
| 8567s | Ma has a good read on what Ping is doing |
| 8570s | and I think that he's expecting ping to |
| 8572s | do something very similar to what he was |
| 8573s | doing in the very first game kind of |
| 8576s | fancy manai chances |
| 8578s | here well we don't have an attempt to |
| 8580s | actually fully proxy any of these |
| 8582s | creation Chambers taking care of the |
| 8584s | camps thus far very much mirrored and |
| 8587s | then I expect to see the same thing with |
| 8588s | Argent versus Argent it is a difficult |
| 8591s | map to I think actually secure well I'm |
| 8593s | not going to say this is the most |
| 8594s | difficult map there our maps are kind of |
| 8596s | large right now in stormgate so to |
| 8597s | secure your advantage with the slower |
| 8600s | units can be a bit more difficult if you |
| 8601s | do have roly pulley C which we might get |
| 8603s | to eventually they're a little better at |
| 8605s | getting across the map doing some |
| 8606s | counterattacks but it seems like arents |
| 8608s | are the way to go and then just actually |
| 8610s | getting them Behind Enemy Lines without |
| 8611s | noticing got a star Forge already on the |
| 8614s | way for Mana wow that's quick that is |
| 8617s | very very quick so he really does |
| 8619s | believe in the vectors that if he can |
| 8621s | just get a couple of them out he can |
| 8623s | start microing he can obviously take a |
| 8625s | adventures with the blink as well but |
| 8626s | first he will be forced to build some |
| 8628s | archin as he finds one of the healing |
| 8630s | flowers to make sure that his arent |
| 8631s | stays full on HP he knows that he cannot |
| 8634s | give up these camps The Creeks give a |
| 8636s | lot more gold right now than they did |
| 8637s | before you can not let a man like Mar |
| 8640s | parting take control of the center and |
| 8641s | obviously take away all that gold that |
| 8643s | technically belongs to you cuz it's on |
| 8645s | your side of the map yeah it's supposed |
| 8647s | to belong to you but that's kind of the |
| 8648s | game right now is arguing over that and |
| 8650s | we do see Mana actually just uh letting |
| 8652s | it go realizing that he couldn't do it |
| 8654s | or perhaps waiting for a better moment |
| 8655s | later on and then question is is it |
| 8658s | vectors or scythe and there you have it |
| 8660s | it is going to be the sight so we saw |
| 8662s | Max side kind of use this but maybe not |
| 8665s | in the best situation or perhaps it to |
| 8667s | make full use of it as far as the |
| 8668s | economy behind the harassment I'm just |
| 8671s | kind of guessing here and I'm saying |
| 8672s | he's worse than Mana but I think we're |
| 8674s | going to see U the scythes actually play |
| 8677s | a very harass oriented style sure but |
| 8680s | then the expansions behind it and then |
| 8682s | the development post Scythe is going to |
| 8684s | be more interesting right now it is |
| 8685s | Argent versus Argent yeah nice Argent |
| 8687s | movement there by Mana as he gets a full |
| 8689s | volley off from The High Ground against |
| 8691s | that low ground arent but faring is |
| 8693s | already getting himself into a spot that |
| 8695s | is pretty promising perhaps taking a |
| 8697s | note out of the Playbook of Max said |
| 8699s | where it's like hey walking past the |
| 8700s | neor going straight for those collection |
| 8702s | arrays in the main base we're going for |
| 8704s | a prism that's a pretty good play and |
| 8706s | Mana is obviously the one who's been |
| 8707s | tacking up mana cannot take the oan |
| 8709s | fight right now I'm not actually sure |
| 8710s | that parting knows that SC are around so |
| 8712s | they are going to appear kind of going |
| 8713s | have to but I'm not sure if he didn't |
| 8715s | know that they were actually there if he |
| 8716s | didn't Scout the star Forge I wonder if |
| 8718s | hiding them and just going for your own |
| 8720s | snipe on on his collection array would |
| 8721s | have been better perhaps they just |
| 8722s | weren't numerous enough now they are |
| 8724s | trying to help out as it seems like they |
| 8725s | need to it is going to be respected here |
| 8727s | by parting but actually getting away |
| 8730s | from these units is a different question |
| 8732s | uh Mana can't really Chase again maybe |
| 8733s | until he has a few more she seems to be |
| 8735s | going pretty well now so that is going |
| 8737s | to punish parting for arguably an |
| 8739s | overreach but it did get the collection |
| 8741s | array are you surprised that parting did |
| 8742s | not eventually turn around and start |
| 8744s | fighting because we've been running for |
| 8745s | a long time right now and it did feel |
| 8747s | that he had far superior numbers great |
| 8749s | save there by Mana one of sides |
| 8751s | obviously still has the Health Camp |
| 8753s | above his natural so ma is taking a |
| 8755s | pretty hefty Supply lead here as |
| 8757s | spotting I think if he would have just |
| 8758s | taken a fight that would have honestly |
| 8760s | been relatively close and competitive |
| 8762s | but by walking away for as long as he |
| 8764s | did he just kept on eating free shots |
| 8766s | over and over again maybe he was |
| 8767s | actually trying to bait okay there's two |
| 8769s | options honestly either he was either |
| 8770s | trying to bait into more reinforcements |
| 8772s | or he actually respects the SC fight a |
| 8774s | lot and I think that is totally |
| 8776s | reasonable right now a lot of people |
| 8777s | even the guys who have played like a |
| 8779s | thousand hours over the entirety of the |
| 8780s | betas they don't necessarily know how |
| 8783s | the matches are going to go the battles |
| 8784s | are going to go like they would in the |
| 8786s | game they played for 14 years Starcraft |
| 8788s | 2 and sites do have an ability that |
| 8790s | activates that makes them not take as |
| 8792s | much damage so they are deceiving when |
| 8794s | you attack them well Mana is the one |
| 8796s | who's now getting on top of one of these |
| 8798s | bases of farting these units obviously |
| 8800s | stuck maybe part can use an overcharge |
| 8802s | there Sovereign watch that is exactly |
| 8803s | what he does mana is going to respect |
| 8805s | that there's another one that gets |
| 8807s | popped at the bottom yeah man still is |
| 8809s | going to fight these Arin where they |
| 8810s | don't get any prot uh any protection |
| 8812s | from those production facilities it |
| 8815s | feels to me that faring is in trouble |
| 8816s | he's going to have a very hard time be |
| 8818s | taking control of the center of the map |
| 8820s | yeah honestly it's very frustrating to |
| 8822s | deal with sces with only Argin this is |
| 8824s | why faring did go for the vectors and I |
| 8826s | think he would want to go again but |
| 8827s | might be in a weirder situation |
| 8829s | basically as these are going to threaten |
| 8831s | all of his collection arrays and they're |
| 8832s | going to get out almost Scot free |
| 8834s | honestly or even pick up a couple more |
| 8835s | Argin before they leave absolutely |
| 8838s | dominating here taking out one of those |
| 8840s | mind and now still getting a couple of |
| 8841s | Ain as well saving those sights over and |
| 8844s | over again still has that Health Bank |
| 8846s | Health Camp rather on his side of the |
| 8848s | map he's baiting out a little bit of a |
| 8850s | Chase there this is starting to look |
| 8851s | incredibly promising for the men from |
| 8853s | Poland as he could potentially go for |
| 8855s | this collection array as well but |
| 8857s | changes his mind and goes for one of the |
| 8859s | power B okay all right I grab that and |
| 8862s | scattle it's all of control for him |
| 8864s | right now parting finally getting his |
| 8865s | Vector out and it's a response but you |
| 8868s | know now it's one versus five units and |
| 8869s | that's just the numbers yeah that is uh |
| 8872s | complete opposite of what faring found |
| 8874s | himself in in the game against Max set |
| 8875s | earlier where he basically had four or |
| 8877s | five of those vectors for one or two of |
| 8879s | the sides now the roles are reversed as |
| 8882s | Mana is doubling the supply and that's |
| 8883s | obviously very telling one of those |
| 8885s | sides does get picked up same time a |
| 8887s | vector is going to get picked off and it |
| 8889s | really does feel that Bing is going to |
| 8890s | lose everything of his original setup |
| 8893s | here this is just very very painful for |
| 8896s | our men from Korea yeah I mean if Mana |
| 8898s | wanted to we could also take the health |
| 8900s | camp but it looks like he's going to go |
| 8901s | for the throat he knows he's got the |
| 8903s | superior Army Superior position and he |
| 8906s | can camp the star Forge which is what he |
| 8908s | is getting at eventually you run out of |
| 8910s | sovereign's watch you don't have that |
| 8912s | defense to help you out you might have a |
| 8914s | node helping you out but is that going |
| 8915s | to be enough as Mona just takes control |
| 8917s | over the map all doing this yeah ping |
| 8919s | was forced to drop them relatively early |
| 8921s | a couple of times earlier trying to keep |
| 8922s | those Argin safe but he was just so |
| 8924s | spread out that is something I've |
| 8926s | noticed as well that happens often on |
| 8927s | this map where it's like the Nal is so |
| 8929s | safe but the moment you try to go to a |
| 8931s | third expand location it actually |
| 8933s | becomes really hard like where do you |
| 8935s | take it and then you suddenly have such |
| 8936s | a large area of the map cover that's |
| 8939s | obviously something that pting found |
| 8941s | himself in here he does have a couple of |
| 8942s | defectors he's going to try to micro |
| 8944s | them to the best of his abilities you |
| 8946s | mentioned the Health Camp Mana is having |
| 8948s | the time of his life here and this is an |
| 8949s | unfair fight for Ping I actually wonder |
| 8951s | if Mana will ever bring over his Arc |
| 8953s | ship cuz it's also maybe less vulnerable |
| 8955s | if it does get on the offensive where |
| 8957s | maybe you could be scared of the vectors |
| 8959s | trying to go for a snipe I guess I just |
| 8961s | speculating out loud maybe he really |
| 8963s | doesn't need it maybe it is too valuable |
| 8964s | maybe it's just too busy actually being |
| 8966s | used to get more ahead back at home |
| 8969s | building prism so that's uh certainly is |
| 8971s | the option he is doing very well with |
| 8973s | the scy but it seems like their time |
| 8974s | might be running out the vector count is |
| 8976s | growing a little maybe without that |
| 8977s | fourth helping that was a little |
| 8979s | premature of a blink he almost gets a |
| 8981s | scyth in return Mana could pull that |
| 8983s | back doesn't do it fast enough well but |
| 8985s | he did snipe another collection array so |
| 8988s | like even losing one or two of them is |
| 8989s | really not that but Mana has a couple of |
| 8991s | Ain walking around as well and it seems |
| 8993s | like he's having a hard time making them |
| 8995s | participate in the battle but he's got |
| 8997s | to be incredibly happy with what these |
| 8999s | sides have been able to do it is like |
| 9001s | four five vectors at this point |
| 9003s | obviously they do have blink but Mana |
| 9004s | still has this health cam which honestly |
| 9006s | feels like a little bit of a cheat code |
| 9008s | at this point it's a little cheeky as |
| 9010s | smell as kind of a cheat code but it |
| 9012s | obviously makes sense he got the money |
| 9013s | now he has the heals and paring cannot |
| 9015s | get it back again it seems like maybe |
| 9017s | this will eventually tip to parting uh |
| 9020s | side from the vector versus Scythe |
| 9021s | specifically but what about the rest of |
| 9023s | the plan here for man he's still |
| 9025s | doubling the overall Supply still looks |
| 9026s | to be in a fantastic position but it |
| 9029s | does feel like vectors would be one of |
| 9030s | the better units to capitalize on a good |
| 9033s | fight and Counterattack immediately |
| 9035s | right they're fast they have blink got |
| 9037s | to be a little careful and got to start |
| 9039s | thinking about the next step does have |
| 9040s | one of those luminite camps there to |
| 9042s | make sure it doesn't fall too far behind |
| 9044s | economically I mean ping basically had |
| 9046s | all the bases especially after sniping |
| 9048s | that collection array in the main base |
| 9049s | of Mana |
| 9050s | did seem that Mana really put all of his |
| 9052s | AXS in one basket but I want to say that |
| 9055s | has FID off so ping still battling |
| 9058s | trying to trade out the unit for unit |
| 9060s | and Once Upon a Time six sides now |
| 9062s | become one as we have a couple of Ain |
| 9065s | coming in the mix as well pting is |
| 9066s | definitely doing a good job in giving |
| 9068s | him the idea that if he can just |
| 9070s | stabilize and this game will actually go |
| 9072s | amazing for farting but I still think |
| 9074s | it's going to be incredibly difficult to |
| 9075s | stabilize these Argin just keep on dying |
| 9078s | one by one and it's so hard to get them |
| 9080s | them together honestly I'm going to ask |
| 9082s | you where is Mona |
| 9083s | Supply how does he have so much more I |
| 9086s | guess it is just all this yeah it's |
| 9087s | going to be enough too but they it's uh |
| 9090s | it does seem like we've uh already |
| 9092s | witnessed a couple of overextensions |
| 9095s | when you lose your economy trying to end |
| 9097s | the game be very difficult it's just |
| 9100s | parting is not tapping out us cuz he |
| 9102s | wants to have a go at it but because he |
| 9103s | really believes if he gets one |
| 9105s | overextension his Counterattack might be |
| 9106s | able to deal equivalent damage I mean at |
| 9109s | this point pting probably feels that |
| 9110s | he's got slightly more micro potential |
| 9112s | with his units than Mana has with theirs |
| 9115s | so at that point you always believe that |
| 9116s | if I can just get the fights going my |
| 9118s | way can get one pick off at a time |
| 9120s | eventually disc could snowball but I |
| 9122s | have the feeling for every unit that |
| 9123s | Mana is going to lose he going to build |
| 9125s | two in return he's still been finding |
| 9127s | economic damage as well and you were |
| 9128s | wondering well Mana supplies what well |
| 9130s | he kept a couple of units at home to |
| 9132s | perhaps deal with some of these runbys |
| 9134s | to make sure that he wouldn't lose |
| 9135s | another collection array or a couple of |
| 9137s | those important prisms he's healing up |
| 9139s | his side here as well I me Bing is |
| 9141s | definitely doing a really good job in |
| 9143s | making this frust rating for Mana but in |
| 9145s | the end it is not going to be good |
| 9146s | enough the man from Poland takes the one |
| 9149s | lead as he transitioned into those |
| 9152s | sights and I still think the moment that |
| 9154s | Bing was there with all his arents where |
| 9156s | he sniped that first collection array if |
| 9158s | he just stands there and fight of course |
| 9160s | Mana can micro units back to the Health |
| 9162s | Camp of course Mana is going to get the |
| 9164s | immidiate reinforcements don't believe |
| 9166s | that faring loses that many units for |
| 9168s | free is honestly a question you know |
| 9170s | like the only reason I'm even just kind |
| 9172s | of thinking here not just being like |
| 9174s | yeah Rody that's I think you're |
| 9175s | absolutely right is |
| 9176s | that that is a a I don't know how to say |
| 9179s | this like it seemed like something |
| 9180s | parting would know just by being good at |
| 9182s | RTS you know what I mean like so I think |
| 9184s | either we're underestimating the scythes |
| 9186s | or he overestimated them or whatever it |
| 9188s | is but it made it very awkward no matter |
| 9191s | how you slice it indeed and I think for |
| 9193s | me the question is did he actually Scout |
| 9195s | that that was happening you do have kind |
| 9197s | of a scan as Celestial does cost energy |
| 9199s | you can get that natural and see that |
| 9201s | there was a star Forge and kind of |
| 9202s | predict what was coming out but if he |
| 9204s | never did cuz he figured it was Argent |
| 9205s | versus Argent then apparently those |
| 9208s | Scythe surprises even though I was like |
| 9209s | oh maybe he could have hit him a little |
| 9210s | longer just two did apparently push it |
| 9213s | all back and then started the snowball |
| 9214s | for him yeah I believe that mon could |
| 9217s | win the fight but I also think that |
| 9218s | arent against aent obviously those |
| 9219s | battles are kind of funny and it's not |
| 9221s | the quickest unit especially not in the |
| 9222s | beginning of the game so if Bing would |
| 9224s | have clicked his audence on top of |
| 9225s | mana's aent maybe Mana wins the fight |
| 9228s | but at the bare minimum he trades out |
| 9230s | lot of units and yeah of course running |
| 9232s | back does mean that he's going to get |
| 9234s | closer and closer to his own |
| 9235s | reinforcements he lost a bunch of units |
| 9237s | for free was not able to get a lot of |
| 9239s | shots off brilliant Tech choice in the |
| 9241s | end by the man from Poland who was |
| 9243s | obviously invested in that tech for a |
| 9245s | little while especially after losing the |
| 9246s | collection array porting technically had |
| 9248s | the better economy could not take |
| 9250s | advantage of that as he just was too |
| 9252s | spread |
| 9253s | out well onto the second map we did |
| 9256s | already have that little bit you know |
| 9257s | again upset I guess we're talking about |
| 9259s | but I think the Des absolutely called it |
| 9260s | correctly Mana Coming Out Swinging a |
| 9263s | little bit of a surprise partings have |
| 9265s | to be very wary of that now we are in a |
| 9266s | second map we got parting in the bottom |
| 9268s | right Mana in the top right it is a four |
| 9270s | player spawn but you actually cannot |
| 9272s | spawn horizontal close by ground as we |
| 9275s | used to call it but uh this would be |
| 9277s | kind of the close by air and then again |
| 9279s | you do have some scans if you wanted to |
| 9280s | use them uh for Celestial vers Celestial |
| 9283s | maybe you can wait a little bit longer |
| 9285s | or just decide not to use it early on |
| 9287s | but we are seeing those camps being |
| 9288s | taken in similar Fashion on both sides |
| 9290s | yep in the beginning it is incredibly |
| 9292s | easy to take care of these creep camps |
| 9293s | you guys can see the yellow circle it |
| 9295s | only has a single yellow bar in it |
| 9297s | throughout the game the camps respawn |
| 9299s | but the creeps do become a lot more |
| 9300s | powerful and I've already had a couple |
| 9302s | moments on grber I thought Mar was good |
| 9304s | enough and then know the 40 army supply |
| 9306s | I had turn into four army supply and I |
| 9309s | was like well I got a bunch of gold but |
| 9311s | those creeps were a whole lot more |
| 9312s | powerful than I thought than I thought |
| 9314s | they were but in the beginning of the |
| 9316s | game especially if it only has one |
| 9317s | yellow bar it is incredibly easy to |
| 9319s | creep these camp |
| 9320s | yeah the typical way that it goes so no |
| 9324s | one going to try and do anything cheeky |
| 9325s | and actually try and steal it we even |
| 9327s | have very similar placement of buildings |
| 9331s | again I think what's really going to be |
| 9332s | important as faring is going have to |
| 9333s | keep track of any potential Tech swaps |
| 9335s | cuz he knows the answer and he even had |
| 9337s | a couple of moments where was like oh |
| 9338s | maybe the vectors were enough just it |
| 9340s | was too late and with it being kind of |
| 9342s | again that close by air this is nearly |
| 9343s | as abusive as jaged mobs but still we |
| 9346s | might actually see |
| 9347s | SC at one of the Ain getting a bit of |
| 9350s | extra energy they can do bonus damage |
| 9352s | and creep out things even quicker Mana |
| 9354s | was definitely mining a lot more etherum |
| 9357s | early on than ping which obviously |
| 9358s | allowed him to pull off the attack |
| 9360s | switch get some of those High attack |
| 9362s | units this will be important for part to |
| 9364s | keep an eye on cuz we can already see in |
| 9365s | the bottom side of our screen Mana right |
| 9367s | now earning some of ethereum I don't |
| 9369s | think Bing is earning |
| 9371s | anything so yeah oh we did see was a Max |
| 9376s | said it was very good about only getting |
| 9378s | enough to get the upgrade for the Argent |
| 9381s | and then he just stopped yeah he |
| 9382s | literally stopped so parting had a |
| 9384s | couple of uh you know bigas in the bank |
| 9386s | and it wasn't really that helpful |
| 9387s | ethereum and then yeah um they I'm still |
| 9390s | winning overall anyway but additional |
| 9392s | technology coming out from Mana he had |
| 9394s | success in the first game will try and |
| 9395s | mimic that success that is a different |
| 9398s | map and a different approach different |
| 9400s | camps too more fors do break trees guys |
| 9402s | you're opening up the back entrance to |
| 9405s | man's base Cur that's actually very cute |
| 9408s | I love this spting already thinking him |
| 9410s | that is going to surprise Mana cuz at |
| 9412s | this point if you're Mana this early in |
| 9413s | a Celestial versus Celestial the the |
| 9416s | last thing all that you would be worried |
| 9418s | about is an army showing up in your main |
| 9420s | base and porting is even dropping a |
| 9422s | power bank and a creation chamber |
| 9424s | basically in what is supposed to be a |
| 9426s | very safe pocket expend later on for |
| 9428s | Mana that most people take as their |
| 9429s | fourth base because you don't have any |
| 9431s | ethereum there in your third this is |
| 9433s | really going to completely surprise Mana |
| 9435s | yeah no doubt about it it actually might |
| 9437s | be too late to have a good response |
| 9439s | collection array |
| 9440s | going to get sniped here as well as the |
| 9442s | prism the ark ship could also be in |
| 9445s | trouble mon is having zero idea that was |
| 9448s | happening having a big weakness and is |
| 9451s | uh going to have a very frustrating loss |
| 9453s | potentially Yep this is not not one of |
| 9455s | these moments where you ever expect to |
| 9457s | lose the game already but this is now |
| 9459s | already been a successful attack Mana |
| 9460s | does have one of the sights out once |
| 9462s | more early on but this time ping is not |
| 9464s | overly respecting it he's actually kind |
| 9466s | of just clicking in deeper and he is |
| 9467s | trying to get on top of those Orin of |
| 9469s | Mana yep now this actually think is a |
| 9471s | numbers game there we have the |
| 9472s | activation for the sight to save it for |
| 9474s | a little while but that collection array |
| 9476s | does not have the same ability that is |
| 9478s | going down arip did come along with |
| 9480s | Harding as well so he's got a little bit |
| 9481s | of healing he could also place his own |
| 9483s | offensive static defense and batteries |
| 9486s | the uh Power Banks and it could get |
| 9488s | uglier as time goes on but again we have |
| 9490s | seen overextension so you do want to be |
| 9492s | careful especially as a scythe continue |
| 9494s | to grow in numbers if they continue |
| 9495s | being retained mhm now it is important |
| 9497s | to mention that Mana can still get some |
| 9500s | income he could still mine even without |
| 9501s | a collection ARR just going to mine a |
| 9503s | whole lot less the problem is that he |
| 9505s | didn't just lose one he lost both of |
| 9507s | them and parting his here with so many |
| 9509s | aent and this time I feel like he's just |
| 9510s | playing with a lot more urgency a lot |
| 9512s | more believe in the power of the aent |
| 9514s | yeah mana's going to be able to get some |
| 9516s | micro potential out of these SES but as |
| 9518s | you said zombie grub this is a numbers |
| 9520s | game and it feels like pting is all over |
| 9522s | Mana what a cute little play to break |
| 9523s | down those trees and attack Mana from |
| 9526s | his own pocket expand very very |
| 9528s | frustrating too cuz I I think there |
| 9530s | might be a lot of games where you think |
| 9532s | oh this could happen you know but then |
| 9534s | it doesn't happen for so long you forget |
| 9536s | about it and you forget about it in the |
| 9538s | the biggest moment right so it's uh it's |
| 9541s | one of those like hand on the forehead |
| 9542s | just slap your head and be like okay I |
| 9544s | should have maybe been checking that a |
| 9545s | little bit more let's not have that |
| 9546s | happen again in potentially game three |
| 9549s | Mana however as you notice not tapping |
| 9551s | on he's not going to give up quite yet |
| 9552s | he has his own possibility of sniping |
| 9554s | collection race with the vector Scythe |
| 9557s | Duo that's just going to try and run |
| 9559s | around but |
| 9560s | very weak already technically none of |
| 9562s | these units are stuck as obviously the |
| 9564s | vector could go to the left side and |
| 9566s | could maybe blink away but the side does |
| 9568s | get picked off the vector does get |
| 9570s | picked off and that is going to do it |
| 9572s | boing with a brilliant move going |
| 9574s | through the trees building a creation |
| 9576s | chamber there inside of the main base |
| 9578s | technically of Mana even though it's not |
| 9580s | the direct main base but that is still a |
| 9582s | part of the main base well done |
| 9584s | completely called man of yep yep yep and |
| 9586s | workers can kill trees uh the morph core |
| 9589s | kind of working as a worker basically I |
| 9591s | guess kind of you can kill trees in the |
| 9593s | early game it just is not something I |
| 9595s | think that is actually too pervasive on |
| 9597s | ladder that strategy that parting pulled |
| 9599s | out and like I said it's just I feel |
| 9600s | like it is one of those cheeses you know |
| 9602s | you depend on being surprised and Mana |
| 9605s | was certainly surprised um that you just |
| 9607s | actually don't find that often or at Le |
| 9609s | I haven't anyways but then it comes out |
| 9611s | in that one big game and you did forget |
| 9613s | to check that one game and it's just so |
| 9615s | frustrating yeah and it just happened |
| 9616s | very early it's not even that the two |
| 9618s | interacted with each other yet most of |
| 9620s | the time this is something that could |
| 9621s | happen if you already had a little |
| 9623s | Skirmish in the center and then both |
| 9624s | players disengage suddenly they go |
| 9626s | through the threes they surprise you but |
| 9628s | this was the first time that Mana really |
| 9629s | saw the army of farting and it showed up |
| 9632s | in his main lost that very expensive |
| 9634s | collection array immediately even lost a |
| 9636s | couple of the prisms too so it's not |
| 9637s | just the collection way he lost I think |
| 9639s | at that point especially since he was |
| 9641s | the one who was stacking up and ping was |
| 9643s | obviously one just pumping out a lot of |
| 9644s | Orin that's not something you can |
| 9646s | recover from yeah and that's not a base |
| 9648s | you're going to take as your natural um |
| 9651s | any in any games that I've seen actually |
| 9653s | so it's far away and there is no theorum |
| 9655s | there yeah exactly there's no theum in |
| 9657s | the other natural but it's still closer |
| 9658s | to the third and it just it just makes |
| 9660s | more sense right so and in those |
| 9662s | positions I guess you would never really |
| 9663s | trust that as a fourth but we didn't get |
| 9665s | nearly that far here we are actually in |
| 9668s | the third map one to one parting in the |
| 9670s | bottom left Mana in the top right the |
| 9673s | Isle of dread the name is yep yeah and |
| 9676s | it's a it's a big in it's got a it's a |
| 9678s | huge map and it is where you have |
| 9680s | multiple entrances into bases it also |
| 9682s | just I think gets really difficult to |
| 9684s | track everything the longer the game |
| 9685s | goes as Celestial so we're going to see |
| 9687s | I think more of those mistakes as well |
| 9689s | and yeah 100% more collection race |
| 9691s | Snipes yep it can be a bit hard to |
| 9694s | eventually get your hands on more theum |
| 9696s | if this is where you decide to expand |
| 9698s | first where the double gold looks so |
| 9699s | appe feeling for all the races |
| 9701s | especially I think for Vanguard players |
| 9703s | as well where you bring over the Buffs |
| 9704s | and your power build you're like oh my |
| 9705s | goodness I can build bubs for days does |
| 9708s | mean that it's a bit harder to get theum |
| 9709s | later but yeah if we're just going to |
| 9710s | spam Ain for a little while obviously |
| 9712s | that does not matter a lot of creep |
| 9714s | camps as well especially in the center |
| 9716s | that are very useful yeah I think this |
| 9718s | has potential for a very fun final map |
| 9721s | it is fun cuz when I came into this day |
| 9723s | and I looked at the maps and obviously |
| 9724s | have played a bunch of games on these |
| 9725s | Maps I actually thought this was almost |
| 9727s | going to be like an insta veto for all |
| 9729s | the players for all the races it's like |
| 9731s | a it's so large it's so different I |
| 9733s | figured that it would like play on the |
| 9735s | smaller green Maps a little bit more but |
| 9737s | we've actually seen it in every single |
| 9738s | Series so far yeah I think there was |
| 9741s | definitely some frustration particularly |
| 9743s | with Vanguard versus cre in a war patch |
| 9746s | where you couldn't really uh wall at all |
| 9748s | not that Sim City is I think as advanced |
| 9751s | as it is in this game as of yet I think |
| 9753s | it's going to get way more interesting |
| 9755s | so there was definitely frustrations on |
| 9756s | the map but overall it does seem to have |
| 9758s | come into its own just an interesting |
| 9760s | different map where that natural is a |
| 9761s | little more contentious and the overall |
| 9763s | map is just huge and a big fight around |
| 9765s | the middle that's where you see a lot of |
| 9767s | camps in the middle Vision to the side |
| 9769s | also where the flowers are uh could see |
| 9771s | a lot of skirmishes around that both |
| 9774s | players doing pretty much the same thing |
| 9775s | so far as the aent numbers are going to |
| 9777s | go up creep jacking could become big |
| 9779s | later on but in the beginning of the |
| 9781s | stage obviously the creeps are |
| 9782s | relatively weak that even if you send a |
| 9784s | single aent out to creep ja your |
| 9786s | opponent they'll look at it be like well |
| 9787s | I can actually fight you and the creeps |
| 9789s | at the same time because the creeps are |
| 9791s | not very powerful yet it makes a lot |
| 9793s | more sense to clean up as many creeps on |
| 9795s | your side of the map as possible first |
| 9797s | then you start looking for creep JS |
| 9798s | later on maybe when the creeps are a bit |
| 9800s | more so Mano was trying to get the |
| 9802s | Scythe last game technically he got |
| 9804s | there but not for very long so there is |
| 9806s | a trend do have two scyth maps from Mana |
| 9809s | will he do it again in the third yes he |
| 9811s | will star forward is on the way and I |
| 9813s | think it is great I you know I think it |
| 9814s | was just that he was so surprised so |
| 9817s | early on getting Argent in his face with |
| 9819s | only his first Scythe out that's just |
| 9821s | not going to happen on a map like this |
| 9822s | no matter how hard you would try to do |
| 9823s | that so MAA going to have a little more |
| 9825s | flexibility there but parting should be |
| 9827s | very much anticipating that and prepar |
| 9829s | to add on vectors yes P can also just |
| 9832s | make a few more ains and try to clean up |
| 9835s | as much of this map as possible as |
| 9836s | obviously creeps give so much illuminite |
| 9839s | at this point I mean he's mining a |
| 9841s | little bit of theorum at this point it's |
| 9842s | going to be fun though because they both |
| 9844s | took that base with the double gold |
| 9846s | where you know all the luminite in the |
| 9847s | world but it is really going to be hard |
| 9849s | to get a lot of ethereum later on if you |
| 9851s | do want to build a lot of those tier two |
| 9853s | units I'm very curious to see how this |
| 9855s | one is going to play out trying to keep |
| 9857s | track of the army movement mon currently |
| 9859s | creeping all the way in the top side of |
| 9861s | the map that could have potentially been |
| 9862s | a little bit risky cuz there would have |
| 9864s | been no way home for these Arin if |
| 9866s | faring would have shown up here yeah he |
| 9868s | did make sure both of them made sure to |
| 9870s | take the vision camps on either side of |
| 9872s | the map and that does I think it like |
| 9875s | actually does cover the entrance through |
| 9876s | the middle but obviously paron could |
| 9878s | have come in from the left and Mano |
| 9879s | wouldn't have known and honestly that's |
| 9881s | a pretty common uh Camp progression I |
| 9885s | said that weird progression so there |
| 9887s | actually could have maybe been a play |
| 9888s | there but that in this particular I game |
| 9890s | Harding actually uh not getting vectors |
| 9894s | yet I'm not sure but sites are |
| 9895s | definitely on the way for mana and |
| 9897s | they're going to have a field day |
| 9898s | running around this large map where your |
| 9899s | bases are very disconnected once more I |
| 9902s | guess we're going to hunt for some |
| 9903s | collectional race maybe snipe a prism if |
| 9905s | we can this is a good scout by parting |
| 9908s | even if he's going to end up losing the |
| 9909s | arent it is nice to get that |
| 9911s | confirmation of hey the first side is |
| 9913s | out this is now something I need to |
| 9915s | officially worry about yeah absolutely |
| 9917s | and I I said I think he should be |
| 9919s | predicting a lot more here we do have |
| 9921s | the uh top bar ability taken out the |
| 9923s | camp for parting it just that's exactly |
| 9926s | what it did it just took it out it also |
| 9928s | replaces it if you use it on your |
| 9929s | opponent's Camp which is interesting not |
| 9930s | sure we've seen that in too many |
| 9931s | high-profile games yeah the control is |
| 9934s | currently going to man's taking more of |
| 9935s | the camps he's going to be threatening |
| 9936s | runbys all the collection arrays which |
| 9938s | are right near that High Ground which |
| 9939s | the SC do love and you see parting |
| 9942s | trying to compensate for that static |
| 9944s | defense back there by far and way the |
| 9945s | riches that both players have been |
| 9947s | throughout this entire best of three if |
| 9949s | feel like they're going to have so much |
| 9950s | income to work with we could get a |
| 9952s | couple of pretty crazy battles is the |
| 9954s | first vectors are out Mana sees them |
| 9956s | he's got his Ares in the mix as well |
| 9958s | seems like Ping is going to bring his |
| 9960s | audence back they're going to come in |
| 9961s | through the top right side this is |
| 9963s | something that Mana needs to keep uh in |
| 9965s | the back of his mind he's going to have |
| 9967s | a hard time getting these units out |
| 9968s | right CU if ping just wants to take this |
| 9970s | fight I'm afraid that mana's going to |
| 9972s | have to leave these Argin eventually |
| 9974s | again uh well now it's five sight in the |
| 9976s | air and six of the argents on the ground |
| 9979s | round that is a little scary with the |
| 9981s | help of some stattic defense this might |
| 9983s | be hold I mean more than holdable |
| 9984s | actually he even coming in here with a |
| 9986s | bit of a surround parting with some |
| 9988s | confidence actually taking the fight to |
| 9989s | Mana still has a little bit of a stag |
| 9991s | defense helping out too good pullback |
| 9993s | there from Mana he's continuing to Rally |
| 9995s | in the scy he does need to do some |
| 9997s | damage but unfortunately he is not |
| 9999s | winning this battle losing the scy as he |
| 10001s | tries to retreat the blink forward that |
| 10003s | actually capitalize on it Mana with the |
| 10005s | overextension yeah Bing did a really |
| 10007s | good job in kind of guiding Mana all the |
| 10008s | way back to get a little bit of help |
| 10010s | from one of those overcharges as well |
| 10012s | getting just a tiny bit of damage on cuz |
| 10014s | the fight was close but it is such a |
| 10016s | large map so every unit that Mana builds |
| 10018s | especially an aent would take forever |
| 10020s | but even with sights it takes a long |
| 10022s | time before they make it to the bottom |
| 10023s | left side meanwhile every unit that |
| 10025s | pting builds is there immediately |
| 10027s | participates in the battle and then |
| 10029s | obviously using sovereign's watch to get |
| 10030s | a little bit of extra chip damage in |
| 10032s | could have potentially made a difference |
| 10034s | there if I was poting I'd be feeling |
| 10035s | very good about it especially since it |
| 10037s | does feel that his unit should scale a |
| 10039s | little bit better even if these sights |
| 10041s | are always scary and always dangerous |
| 10043s | sping with a bunch of vectors seems like |
| 10045s | it's very difficult to deal with if you |
| 10047s | don't have your own blink units yourself |
| 10049s | yeah I do feel like the |
| 10051s | sites okay so obviously mahun knows way |
| 10054s | better than I do but he's using them in |
| 10056s | in a in a fight on fight which sometimes |
| 10058s | is the better idea but the vector number |
| 10059s | has grown he's not winning fights |
| 10061s | anymore he's even getting caught in the |
| 10063s | rally these Scythe units are just |
| 10065s | obnoxious guys if you run around killing |
| 10067s | all the collection arrays and prisms |
| 10069s | that's where it feels tilting that's |
| 10070s | where it feels good taking direct fights |
| 10073s | yeah could have worked if he had judged |
| 10074s | it correctly but frankly he didn't and |
| 10076s | now he's really feeling the |
| 10077s | repercussions why does it feel like this |
| 10078s | is pting hunting down a couple meta with |
| 10080s | blink stalk as as these vectors are |
| 10082s | roaming the center of the map trying to |
| 10084s | pick off these low HP sights Mana did |
| 10087s | save a couple of them but now his own |
| 10089s | main base is so exposed these prisms are |
| 10091s | going to get popped immediately The |
| 10093s | Collection array is going to get picked |
| 10094s | off as well this is going to be very |
| 10096s | difficult Mana may eventually push this |
| 10098s | back but it feel that whatever ping does |
| 10100s | here it is always going to be good yeah |
| 10103s | actually he has a lot more SCE than I |
| 10104s | thought he did it's like suddenly he has |
| 10105s | a bunch so maybe he can come in here too |
| 10107s | very weak doesn't want to put them in |
| 10108s | until they're a little more healed up |
| 10110s | hopefully the rest can do the trick it |
| 10111s | does seem like that is the case vectors |
| 10113s | going to get out of here they did do |
| 10115s | some economic damage and uh definitely |
| 10117s | took down some scythes but I did not |
| 10119s | give Mana enough credit that's a lot |
| 10121s | more than I thought he had mhm obiously |
| 10123s | they are both pretty damn Rich since |
| 10125s | they have that double luminite mind to |
| 10128s | work from from the very beginning and |
| 10129s | they didn't spend crazy amounts of |
| 10131s | ethereum early on he never took the |
| 10132s | second one though did that's correct |
| 10136s | also only has a single prism I me he did |
| 10137s | just lose a lot of prisms in his main |
| 10140s | he's got units here but having units at |
| 10142s | home or bringing all those units to the |
| 10143s | other side of the map and then |
| 10145s | potentially fighting in range of a |
| 10147s | sovereign's watch or two right we've |
| 10148s | already seen that as well still seem |
| 10150s | like that is going to be incredibly |
| 10152s | difficult one of these games where the |
| 10153s | supplies look even but you feel like |
| 10155s | parting is just going to explode in the |
| 10157s | next 90 seconds and mana's going to have |
| 10158s | a hard time |
| 10159s | throwing yeah yeah he still has a very |
| 10163s | scary Army not maybe in the direct |
| 10165s | battles cuz the vector Army is currently |
| 10167s | dealing with it but again if he gets |
| 10169s | some to go for backstabs then that's |
| 10172s | where it can get frustrating parting |
| 10173s | really has to worry about just ring |
| 10175s | forward and it gets a little more |
| 10177s | complicated so still definitely giving |
| 10178s | Mana a chance here defensively he can |
| 10181s | work out with the static defense for a |
| 10183s | while and it looks like he is going to |
| 10185s | think he can do this so he's going to go |
| 10186s | for the Run by it's seen Harding those |
| 10189s | they're not Vision camps but you do have |
| 10191s | a little vision on any Camp you have yep |
| 10193s | the Ping knows exactly what it's up |
| 10195s | don't know if he finish off that camp on |
| 10196s | Mon side of the map but that obviously |
| 10198s | always feels great once you're taking |
| 10199s | those creeps away from your opponent |
| 10201s | especially since mana's already hurting |
| 10203s | a little bit economically seems like |
| 10205s | Ping didn't finish them quite off but |
| 10206s | then the creeps do get one of the aent |
| 10209s | Mana is here as he's going to try to |
| 10210s | find some economic damage finds the |
| 10212s | first collection ra very quickly |
| 10214s | probably going to get the second one but |
| 10215s | I can't imagine that he's not going to |
| 10217s | lose a bunch of sides here as spting is |
| 10218s | coming coming in from the right these |
| 10220s | units can blink they do use one of the |
| 10222s | blinks this definitely was not for free |
| 10224s | on man no it was not not able to escape |
| 10227s | with a ton of s some five literally |
| 10230s | getting away there so once again the |
| 10232s | worry is him being able to defend if he |
| 10235s | had been able to snipe two collection |
| 10236s | arrays and get out with every single |
| 10238s | Scythe that would have been freaking |
| 10240s | amazing but parting the mobility of the |
| 10242s | vectors and parting being parting with |
| 10244s | blink right was definitely um caught up |
| 10248s | you know he knew that he could chase him |
| 10249s | down he knew he'd get the ultimate |
| 10250s | better battle and now he just has so |
| 10252s | many vectors farting having two |
| 10254s | different groups of vectors is really |
| 10255s | awesome there too right cuz he shows the |
| 10257s | first group like hey I'm here I'm |
| 10259s | putting out damage man's like well kind |
| 10261s | of get those collection rays and then |
| 10262s | hopefully I can still get out and that's |
| 10264s | when that second group shows up and hits |
| 10266s | him with the devastating blink right |
| 10268s | underneath all those sides far and |
| 10270s | getting so many additional hits up that |
| 10271s | Mana obviously was not looking forward |
| 10273s | to feels that Mana is in a lot of |
| 10276s | trouble I think Mana knows that he's in |
| 10277s | a lot of trouble maybe hoping that pting |
| 10279s | overextends takes a bad fight in a |
| 10281s | sovereign watch but really does feel |
| 10283s | that pting has got this game by the |
| 10284s | horns has a really good read on the |
| 10286s | situation and just this is his game at |
| 10289s | this point the world is his oyster it is |
| 10292s | it is mana's whole plan here not really |
| 10294s | again working out quite as well as it |
| 10296s | could definitely not the same exact game |
| 10298s | as Max has won but it's kind of the same |
| 10301s | Vibe or the same Pace right where it's |
| 10302s | like the Scythe kind of look good in a |
| 10304s | direct battle once or twice they look |
| 10306s | really frustrating when they go for the |
| 10307s | Snipes and then those vectors are |
| 10309s | actually the answer as soon as they get |
| 10311s | into a number they are more mobile and |
| 10313s | uh well arguably more mobile they're |
| 10315s | Mobile in different ways but they're |
| 10316s | able to punish is what I'm trying to say |
| 10318s | and that is what's happened once again |
| 10319s | parting taking control of this game over |
| 10321s | double the supply SC going to go for a |
| 10323s | little run by and that's great but Mana |
| 10326s | is still only on one collection array |
| 10328s | maybe he did get a second one but he |
| 10329s | lost that main one ages ago he's dealing |
| 10332s | good economic damage but it just feels |
| 10333s | like it's a day late and a dollar short |
| 10335s | cuz he's bleeding out some very |
| 10337s | expensive units here too Bing is is |
| 10339s | going to chase them down mana's going to |
| 10340s | try to turn around but perhaps sping |
| 10342s | caught a glimpse of that not totally |
| 10344s | certain it just feels that it's going to |
| 10346s | be so damn difficult for Mana to ever |
| 10348s | get another base up and running as these |
| 10351s | units have turned around so they will |
| 10353s | get a blink up and the first sight goes |
| 10355s | down the second one goes down as well |
| 10357s | Bing is all over mana and is just |
| 10359s | reading him like a book yeah yeah he is |
| 10362s | um you know Mana he was he was quite |
| 10364s | dedicated actually his economy was not |
| 10365s | very strong he went for the the double |
| 10367s | luminite but didn't actually take it so |
| 10370s | this was more committed it did have to |
| 10371s | do some damage and you know what |
| 10373s | actually seems to be the case here is |
| 10375s | that this map just calls for people to |
| 10377s | overextend in this position now this is |
| 10379s | clearly too many numbers I'm not worried |
| 10380s | about parting doing that but it did kind |
| 10382s | of happen with Mana the choke there is |
| 10384s | so powerful for the defense that Harding |
| 10386s | was able to hold against the initial |
| 10388s | scary sces and then just uh worked out |
| 10390s | with these vectors which I guess they |
| 10392s | take a while to kill the entire base but |
| 10394s | they don't have to they just kill the |
| 10395s | collection array yeah with the sights |
| 10397s | obviously the sights are pretty quick |
| 10398s | they could temporarily disengage but |
| 10400s | Mana was there with his Ain as well and |
| 10402s | once the Ain are there you're just kind |
| 10403s | of committed to the fight you're stuck |
| 10405s | because those units can never make it |
| 10407s | home especially not if ping is roaming |
| 10409s | the map with a couple of these very |
| 10410s | quick vectors and he may not have that |
| 10412s | many yet at that point but even if it's |
| 10414s | only three or four Vector five Ain too |
| 10416s | much to just leave all by themselves and |
| 10418s | let them die for nothing but running |
| 10420s | them home is also not really a play as |
| 10422s | Mana realizes he is just too far behind |
| 10425s | GG well played get skull and it is Bing |
| 10428s | who wins the opp for a bracket final two |
| 10430s | to one couple of very fun games on WE gr |
| 10432s | up I felt like we saw a little bit of |
| 10433s | everything we saw different routes of |
| 10436s | getting to where players wanted to be |
| 10438s | but I think in especially in that final |
| 10439s | game poring show that he's not just a |
| 10441s | good stormgate player that me is just a |
| 10443s | great RTS player and his Spidey senses |
| 10446s | of what to do in the right moment at the |
| 10448s | right time are always tingling yeah yeah |
| 10450s | it did seem like he was a little |
| 10451s | surprised in the first game but then he |
| 10453s | immediately went to his own surprise his |
| 10456s | own cheeky cheese kind of reset the |
| 10458s | momentum there and I think he was just |
| 10459s | so much more forwarned about the plan of |
| 10461s | Mana that he had a very good plan |
| 10463s | vectors do deal with them very well as |
| 10465s | long as they're in any type of position |
| 10467s | if they're totally out of position okay |
| 10469s | fair enough you're going to lose lot of |
| 10470s | economy but once they're in position |
| 10472s | once you can even start playing around |
| 10473s | with some surrounds which Harding was |
| 10474s | going to do they are better it was a |
| 10478s | very close fight for a little bit but |
| 10479s | perhaps that one sovereigns watch a |
| 10481s | little bit of that overcharge damage |
| 10483s | made the difference and at that point |
| 10484s | Bing was in control let's hear what |
| 10486s | clores and pis have to say about our |
| 10488s | oper record |
| 10490s | final well guys I'm a fan of those |
| 10491s | cheeky cheeky plays as we've got |
| 10493s | ourselves paring advancing on into the |
| 10495s | grand final he finds himself in a best |
| 10497s | of five now at the very end of this |
| 10499s | tournament joining me osis and tasteless |
| 10501s | to talk about this one vectors pretty |
| 10505s | good uh Dan yeah yeah and uh I think |
| 10507s | that they're pretty good mostly because |
| 10509s | they counter the sces pretty good yeah |
| 10511s | yeah the scythes did a really good job |
| 10513s | you know that game one you could see the |
| 10514s | look in parting eyes where he's like |
| 10516s | this tournament's a lot harder than I |
| 10517s | thought it would be uh and the Scythe |
| 10519s | play really seemed pretty cool and |
| 10521s | everything but um you know coming back |
| 10523s | with the vectors to counter them |
| 10524s | obviously those things are good we're in |
| 10527s | this phase of the game where we're |
| 10528s | seeing um players experiment with like |
| 10531s | what is the right unit to go for right |
| 10533s | not that that's the end game but it's |
| 10534s | going to bring you somewhere where you |
| 10535s | should have an advantage um it's clear |
| 10538s | as far as we've seen in the few games |
| 10539s | we've had so far that the vectors seem |
| 10541s | to be able to chase the SES down in open |
| 10544s | territory um despite the fact that sites |
| 10546s | are very mobile because obviously they |
| 10548s | can fly |
| 10549s | the vectors are faster and just able to |
| 10550s | get around to more places and therefore |
| 10552s | do more damage scary scary a lot of |
| 10555s | damage I mean that last game as well I |
| 10557s | don't think I've ever seen that many |
| 10558s | vectors coming out uh but I mean let's |
| 10560s | talk about game two briefly as well here |
| 10562s | because lost Hope's an interesting map |
| 10563s | osis generally I would say in a lot of |
| 10566s | celestial versus Celestial you're |
| 10568s | expecting it on Lost hope to go a little |
| 10570s | bit longer in a position like that |
| 10571s | however opening up that back path and |
| 10573s | then being able to get in VIA that tree |
| 10575s | line really caused some problems for |
| 10576s | Mana yeah this is something that maybe |
| 10578s | he should have paid attention to the |
| 10580s | tasteless TV Showdown right because this |
| 10583s | is something that parting did back over |
| 10584s | there as well this was this was a |
| 10586s | strategy for the map so uh I think that |
| 10588s | that was a good counterplay to get those |
| 10590s | those argents out there so quickly for |
| 10592s | the Counterattack while man is trying to |
| 10594s | Tech up so uh very good choice there |
| 10597s | from parting let's take a look at the |
| 10598s | replays from this game here is game |
| 10600s | number one where the SES really did |
| 10601s | reign supreme Tess you know it almost |
| 10604s | looks like you know it's the game |
| 10605s | started out with argents and that uh |
| 10608s | resulted in a response of scythes |
| 10610s | because you can play the game you have a |
| 10612s | very direct hard counter and that they |
| 10614s | kill argents on the ground and then you |
| 10616s | could take the game into your own hands |
| 10617s | and go from there and then the uh result |
| 10620s | of that is the vectors and this might |
| 10621s | sound silly but it does seem like we've |
| 10623s | seen this tiny Tech evolution of this |
| 10625s | beats this so you go to that and I don't |
| 10627s | know if it's going to ever loop back |
| 10629s | around into Argent again if there's |
| 10630s | something ahead of vector that you want |
| 10632s | to try to go for and maybe that creates |
| 10633s | an opening there but there is this sort |
| 10635s | of Ora borus of counters that we see |
| 10637s | going on here where this goes to this |
| 10639s | goes to that um and so yeah we saw a lot |
| 10642s | of Scythe versus Argent early on in in |
| 10644s | the first part of this game yeah but uh |
| 10647s | you know I think that as as we're seeing |
| 10650s | the scythes become strong that's where |
| 10652s | you see the vectors become very very |
| 10654s | strong cuz the vectors can kind of be |
| 10656s | microed against anything and as we all |
| 10658s | know uh triangle is the strongest shape |
| 10661s | well |
| 10662s | yes oddly yes and look they're like two |
| 10664s | triangles isn't that crazy it's like |
| 10666s | twice the strongest shape is that why |
| 10668s | all the keys are triangle shaped here |
| 10670s | they're connected with a tuning fork |
| 10671s | it's it's you're not going to be able to |
| 10673s | stop these things they make a really |
| 10675s | nice noise as they fly around by the way |
| 10678s | a lot of targeting on the uh collection |
| 10680s | array am I saying that right yeah just |
| 10682s | just getting in there um it feels like |
| 10684s | it's a tanky building at least when I |
| 10686s | was playing a couple games but when you |
| 10687s | get the really good players against each |
| 10689s | other even though it can fly even though |
| 10692s | it could uh you know in theory get away |
| 10693s | if you had enough information ahead of |
| 10695s | time uh the Argent Target it down really |
| 10697s | quickly the SC take it |
| 10699s | um I guess that also is a byproduct of |
| 10701s | not really having that many workers to |
| 10702s | try to kill um in a faction that |
| 10705s | functions the way this one does but um a |
| 10708s | uh surprisingly brittle building All |
| 10710s | Things Considered we've had games just a |
| 10712s | couple minutes in uh and already that |
| 10714s | structure is targeted and taken out and |
| 10716s | then you don't have anywhere near as |
| 10717s | much of an income I do wonder if as time |
| 10719s | goes on it might get a little bit of a |
| 10720s | health buff 500 health against what is |
| 10722s | normally arents that are kind of |
| 10724s | sneaking on in and just getting there |
| 10726s | that therefore they probably have a lot |
| 10728s | of to be able to expend on it very |
| 10729s | quickly autosis means it goes away like |
| 10732s | that it's scary yeah yeah they have been |
| 10733s | dying quickly honestly like I think that |
| 10736s | they need to be able to be killed pretty |
| 10738s | quickly because you can spread around |
| 10739s | the map and like have them hidden and |
| 10741s | stuff so they do need yeah I think it's |
| 10743s | more like I I kind of predict that soon |
| 10746s | we'll have maps that are like more |
| 10748s | linear in how you get to places maybe |
| 10750s | trees don't get into the back of your |
| 10751s | base right maybe maybe there's not two |
| 10753s | entrances into your bases so it's more |
| 10755s | easy to defend and they're also |
| 10757s | unbelievably important your main and |
| 10759s | natural currently because if you do not |
| 10761s | have them available to you within 15 |
| 10763s | range you can't cast sovereigns watch in |
| 10765s | that area right so if you're thinking |
| 10766s | about lost hope and the map that |
| 10767s | actually played out he takes out the |
| 10769s | collection rat very quickly no |
| 10771s | sovereigns watch to defend there for |
| 10772s | Mana so that's another problem yeah |
| 10774s | you're right it it's not just that it is |
| 10776s | a resource Gathering structure it's also |
| 10779s | kind of a launching pad to do all sorts |
| 10780s | of things from building things to |
| 10781s | defending over there and um even though |
| 10784s | in some of these games you see the |
| 10785s | argent's kind of slow running in there |
| 10787s | right it's not a lot of time to deal |
| 10788s | with it once you actually get the damage |
| 10790s | dealt we was we were saying like maybe |
| 10792s | it's actually just worth leaving it |
| 10794s | landed and not trying to run away the |
| 10795s | extra 10 Lum I nor which is ridiculous |
| 10798s | but anyway that's how it goes let's take |
| 10799s | a look at the bracket here and see |
| 10801s | what's up as we've got ourselves parting |
| 10803s | in the Grand Final finds his way through |
| 10805s | there whilst that match was going on we |
| 10807s | did play out Max Head versus Theory and |
| 10809s | Theory keeps the hopes of infernal alive |
| 10812s | here artosis so a rematch is on the |
| 10814s | cards yeah yeah and I actually I I like |
| 10817s | this because you know I did think Theory |
| 10819s | would fare well against an aggressive |
| 10821s | Celestial player and he did clearly and |
| 10823s | the thing is his games against mono were |
| 10824s | not that bad well the game one was a |
| 10826s | little bit rough but uh you know maybe |
| 10828s | we'll see the vetos a little bit |
| 10829s | different this time correct uh if he can |
| 10831s | play a similar game to his second game |
| 10833s | against Mana I could see Theory |
| 10835s | squeezing his way to the finals we |
| 10837s | haven't gotten to see too much of Max |
| 10838s | unfortunately but he is now out that |
| 10840s | being said on the ladder tast list this |
| 10842s | guy is grinding so he is no pushover so |
| 10845s | for the to take him two Z that's a |
| 10847s | that's a big scal to take really |
| 10849s | impressive stuff here to see Theory take |
| 10850s | him I think it's hard to to um not root |
| 10853s | for Theory right now I mean the one |
| 10855s | infernal guy that we got going into this |
| 10857s | uh it would be very cool to have a |
| 10858s | non-mr match up here in the finals we'll |
| 10860s | see if we get that if we're going to get |
| 10862s | it it's going to be because Theory |
| 10863s | managed to get that far yeah and again |
| 10865s | the revenge on Mana from the previous |
| 10867s | series which is all important as you say |
| 10869s | in terms of kind of learnings Isle of |
| 10871s | dread probably not going to be a thing |
| 10873s | maybe we try and push it to a lost hope |
| 10876s | and uh the maps I'm trying to think what |
| 10878s | you you could go to but I mean all the |
| 10879s | other ones are a little bit smaller than |
| 10881s | lost hope so you got to be careful osis |
| 10883s | yeah yeah look I I mean Theory did very |
| 10885s | well in the Jag m game and that that was |
| 10887s | M that more recently infernals wanted to |
| 10889s | ban so uh I think theory has a new |
| 10891s | toolbox here to work with and we're |
| 10893s | going to see I I do think it will be |
| 10895s | slightly different vetos and we're going |
| 10897s | to have some clean games from him I |
| 10898s | think he can do it yeah I I think 100% |
| 10901s | it's very possible um I don't know it's |
| 10904s | been fun it's been cool seeing this last |
| 10905s | Shield breakdown here you know we're |
| 10907s | watching this matchup WRA ly get sorted |
| 10909s | out get solved but uh I don't know could |
| 10911s | we have possibly Theory come through and |
| 10913s | take this in a kind of an underdog |
| 10915s | matchup the only guy not playing that |
| 10917s | faction that would be exciting before we |
| 10918s | end up going to a break I mean obviously |
| 10920s | we've not really got any chance to see |
| 10921s | Vanguard unfortunately in the tournament |
| 10923s | we just don't have any Vanguard players |
| 10925s | uh but obviously if you are joining the |
| 10926s | game now which is officially free to |
| 10928s | play as of today the campaign is |
| 10931s | currently focused on Vanguard and some |
| 10933s | of kind of their mission through the |
| 10935s | campaign Against The Infernal host but |
| 10937s | in general uh you're a Vanguard player |
| 10939s | what do you think of Vanguard as a whole |
| 10941s | so far uh so Vanguard is the race that |
| 10943s | you want to play if uh you really want |
| 10946s | to think that you're playing something |
| 10947s | very hard and uh you're playing the most |
| 10950s | skilled race but uh the other races are |
| 10952s | overpowered and it's uh yeah so this |
| 10955s | fits to me very well no really it's it's |
| 10958s | very fun it's very micro intensive uh |
| 10960s | it's kind of more standard than the |
| 10961s | other two races in terms of just RTS |
| 10963s | play in general nothing's like really |
| 10965s | making instantly or teleporting around |
| 10967s | the map it's more like my things build |
| 10969s | out of the buildings I make them right |
| 10971s | there and then they walk to where they |
| 10973s | have to go so kind of a more standard |
| 10975s | RTS race and for an old man like me |
| 10978s | that's what I want to play I think it's |
| 10980s | a really good race to start out with I |
| 10982s | think it's um AG it's a little bit more |
| 10983s | straightforward especially if you're new |
| 10985s | to RTS and you're watching uh Celestial |
| 10987s | vers Celestial right now it might be a |
| 10989s | little bit overwhelming it might look a |
| 10990s | little bit abstract uh and it is but if |
| 10993s | you're going to start out uh with this |
| 10995s | game stormgate I would say go to |
| 10996s | Vanguard immediately I think it's going |
| 10998s | to very very a good way to pick up the |
| 11000s | game and since the patch it's been given |
| 11002s | quite a boost before the patch it was |
| 11003s | having a little bit of a time this patch |
| 11004s | has given it a nice bit of um against |
| 11006s | some of the races thank you very much |
| 11008s | gentlemen it is time for a break when we |
| 11010s | return we have two more series left one |
| 11012s | best of three it's going to be a rematch |
| 11013s | between Manner and theory and the winner |
| 11015s | will go on to parting in the finals see |
| 11017s | you soon |
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| 11721s | all right welcome back ladies and |
| 11722s | gentlemen we have got two more series on |
| 11723s | the way here for the stormgate |
| 11724s | Invitational Tournament at the Esports |
| 11726s | World Cup joining me of course once |
| 11728s | again we have osis and tasteless to talk |
| 11730s | about our next matchup infernal has |
| 11732s | survived somehow someway and now Theory |
| 11735s | goes up against Mana in a rematch once |
| 11737s | again I think one thing we probably |
| 11739s | expect from this at least a little bit |
| 11740s | Dan is the fact that it shouldn't go |
| 11742s | exactly how we had our previous one with |
| 11745s | vector proxies and causing some problems |
| 11747s | on like I of for example yeah yeah so |
| 11750s | theory is going to remember what Mana |
| 11753s | just did he got some more practice games |
| 11754s | there against mied so he's going to have |
| 11756s | a revised plan and Mana doesn't know |
| 11758s | what that is yes so you know that gives |
| 11760s | Theory a little bit of an edge coming |
| 11761s | into this because Mana is you know he's |
| 11763s | going to be like well I won you know |
| 11765s | pretty convincingly so I'm going to try |
| 11766s | to do that again and Theory's going to |
| 11768s | have that in his mind and try to play |
| 11769s | against that yeah you know a lot of |
| 11771s | times the builds that are going to |
| 11773s | really work you get those out of the way |
| 11774s | early on right you're going to use your |
| 11775s | very bu best stuff out of the the gates |
| 11777s | now when you get a rematch that's the |
| 11779s | moment that your opponent can do a |
| 11780s | little bit of finding tuning of their |
| 11782s | own uh and maybe have a little bit of |
| 11783s | counterplay and one thing about theory |
| 11785s | is he's very good at thinking on his |
| 11786s | feet he's very adaptive and um Mana will |
| 11790s | have to watch out for that and here here |
| 11791s | they are Mana going up against the once |
| 11794s | again as we do previously mention if |
| 11796s | you're just tuning in right now this |
| 11797s | match already happened in the first |
| 11799s | round of the upper bracket and Mana was |
| 11801s | Victorious after bit of a cheeky star |
| 11804s | Forge proxy with the vectors to start |
| 11806s | things off and then a long long game on |
| 11808s | Jagged Mo but we were talking about |
| 11810s | Jagged Mo Dan and how it kind of plays |
| 11811s | out is one of those maps that if you do |
| 11813s | survive some of that early aggression if |
| 11815s | it's not like just constant Air versus |
| 11817s | Air battles in that close s position it |
| 11819s | takes a long time to get to your |
| 11820s | opponent's bases and try and put some |
| 11822s | pressure on so you can survive through a |
| 11824s | through a lot I would say for sure for |
| 11826s | sure it seems like uh as some of the |
| 11828s | rushes get kind of filtered out via |
| 11829s | patches or counterplay yeah uh maybe we |
| 11832s | can see some longer more interesting |
| 11834s | games there obviously that game |
| 11835s | certainly was but is that something that |
| 11838s | Theory's going to want to change now |
| 11839s | right if they play Jag ma is that is it |
| 11841s | like oh maybe maybe I gave him too long |
| 11844s | to kind of get the anim answers up and |
| 11846s | you know it seems like that's a hard |
| 11847s | unit to deal with for the infernals all |
| 11849s | right well let's see how it's going to |
| 11850s | break down here will it be Revenge time |
| 11852s | for Theory or will Mana Prevail and make |
| 11854s | it a Celestial versus Celestial finals |
| 11856s | let's get our players now onto the stage |
| 11858s | mana and Theory go head-to-head once |
| 11860s | again |
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| 11888s | all right here we go for one more shot |
| 11889s | to get into that grand finals will it be |
| 11892s | liquid's Manor or will the be able to |
| 11895s | put infernals in the grand final zg and |
| 11898s | Ry take it |
| 11899s | away and we are going to find out if |
| 11902s | Theory can think on his Feats I think |
| 11904s | it's about maybe an hour and a half that |
| 11906s | he was able to well not even actually |
| 11908s | think that entire time right he was |
| 11909s | playing a whole another matchup so he's |
| 11911s | had a little bit of time to think he |
| 11913s | definitely probably already was like |
| 11915s | well I could have done this better I |
| 11915s | could have done that maybe I don't play |
| 11917s | on that map so we will definitely see |
| 11918s | something different but it's still a |
| 11920s | question if he can actually beat Mana |
| 11922s | who also is going to be prepared for a |
| 11925s | uh more I guess robust Theory probably |
| 11928s | be a little bit better off against the |
| 11929s | early game harassment as we are spawning |
| 11931s | on broken crown top right it is mana and |
| 11934s | bottom left we got Theory the of course |
| 11936s | representing the aftermath Esports and |
| 11939s | this is basically what we were already |
| 11940s | talking about after that previous series |
| 11942s | was like yeah that first map a threat |
| 11944s | too many openings into your main and no |
| 11946s | High Ground to take advantage of you're |
| 11948s | not going to get any free hits off this |
| 11950s | is a very different map when you can |
| 11951s | safely expand you still have a bit of a |
| 11953s | ramp to work with and even if you don't |
| 11955s | have as many range units as your |
| 11957s | opponent you can get a couple of hits |
| 11958s | off for free and maybe your melee units |
| 11960s | can get one or two hits off as well like |
| 11962s | in theory no pun intended I already like |
| 11964s | this map so much better for Theory as we |
| 11967s | are going to see the hexon uh well at |
| 11970s | least yeah the hexon finding this proxy |
| 11972s | star which immediately as he activates |
| 11974s | the creep but I feel like the creeps |
| 11975s | often ignore the building they do |
| 11977s | actually so he's going to have to do |
| 11978s | that when a vector pops out but I do |
| 11980s | like the idea I think he realized very |
| 11982s | quickly like ah all it wasn't really |
| 11983s | going to do very much I've tried this as |
| 11985s | well because in Walk Street that always |
| 11986s | works if you see them building something |
| 11988s | you're like oh I can wake up the creeps |
| 11989s | and then the creeps will just attack the |
| 11990s | building right well not yet in storm |
| 11992s | gate maybe one day but that is not yet |
| 11994s | the case we do have an iron vault as an |
| 11997s | opener but we also have a conclave |
| 11998s | already so he can go for a mix of a |
| 12000s | couple of roots couple of guns knows |
| 12003s | what the deal is but he can take |
| 12004s | advantage of that ramp got the meat Farm |
| 12006s | Way far out this is obviously not |
| 12008s | something you want to give up but I |
| 12009s | guess the idea is let's get this Health |
| 12011s | Camp and then just kind of similar to Dr |
| 12014s | M stabilize with the health Camp yeah I |
| 12017s | I mean this is it's a kind of familiar |
| 12019s | to that first game but with the map |
| 12020s | being so different I think we were going |
| 12021s | to see that whoa we needed that link |
| 12024s | fortunately got it in time it does mean |
| 12026s | that there's not going to be any more |
| 12027s | Snipes on the camp and that the camp is |
| 12030s | absolutely officially theories but this |
| 12032s | is actually the map that I was thinking |
| 12034s | of when I was talking a lot about what |
| 12035s | he could do defensively this is a map |
| 12037s | where there is actually back trees that |
| 12039s | you could kill we might see that |
| 12040s | eventually but initially that natural |
| 12042s | kind of lends itself a defense to the |
| 12044s | third as well because of the way you can |
| 12046s | position your un on the corner exactly |
| 12048s | the the is doing now what he did |
| 12050s | actually in previous tournaments that he |
| 12051s | participated in he was very good at |
| 12052s | making sure he could lock that up and |
| 12054s | now with the first Vector uh poke I |
| 12056s | suppose kind of dealt with nicely second |
| 12058s | one's kind of do some damage but now |
| 12060s | it's also in uh I was going to say some |
| 12062s | trouble but I guess it could just blink |
| 12063s | out nice save one of those imp right |
| 12065s | morphing it into a meat farm temporarily |
| 12067s | doesn't really need it yet so he doesn't |
| 12069s | really want to let it complete but at |
| 12070s | least he save the Imp two more guns pop |
| 12073s | if we blink we can blink again so this |
| 12075s | is actually going to be a little bit |
| 12076s | tricky I think for mon get this Vector |
| 12078s | safely out of here taking a lot of |
| 12080s | damage all the way down to 27 HP but it |
| 12083s | go live for now yeah third one's going |
| 12085s | to join up and he is taking the camp |
| 12086s | here not much that theory can do about |
| 12089s | that with the army that he has it's a |
| 12091s | little bit sketchy but this is just a |
| 12093s | solid setup and this is very familiar to |
| 12095s | their draged mall game in my opinion |
| 12097s | where again I I actually really hope |
| 12099s | that we get to see a very similar mid to |
| 12101s | late game and then see if the can get |
| 12103s | his army in position get it to the state |
| 12105s | that he wanted it to be which you think |
| 12107s | he was like 30 seconds away from and |
| 12109s | take that win there but little bit |
| 12110s | sketchy here the Imp having to be pulled |
| 12112s | as the vectors find some nice harassment |
| 12114s | opportunities H this is painful because |
| 12116s | the units were way out of position for |
| 12117s | Theory as he was trying to get another |
| 12119s | creep can going near that star Forge |
| 12121s | instead we're just going to work on the |
| 12123s | star Forge that's nice and all but this |
| 12124s | is a crazy amount of economic damage |
| 12126s | against one base a theory he got that |
| 12128s | Shrout Stone up right at the edge |
| 12130s | thinking that that could keep him safe |
| 12132s | but the factors are so quick they can |
| 12133s | blink cross it as well they can blink |
| 12135s | onto The High Ground too is actually |
| 12137s | very painful I don't think this is what |
| 12138s | theory was expecting at all he probably |
| 12140s | thought all right my main base is safe |
| 12142s | for a little while because I've got that |
| 12143s | setup with the ramp got my shroud Stone |
| 12146s | there too un is just blinking into the |
| 12148s | natural with vision of course from that |
| 12150s | speed Tower that's very painful yeah I'm |
| 12152s | not sure how many imp died there |
| 12153s | honestly but it it obviously was a lot |
| 12155s | of lost mining time so it's definitely |
| 12158s | the damage that Mano wanted to do um at |
| 12161s | the very least you know obviously |
| 12163s | winning the game would be preferable but |
| 12164s | there's that damage so Y is going to |
| 12167s | have to recover but his setup is decent |
| 12171s | so I I believe in his chances to but it |
| 12173s | just it really is unfortunate cuz I |
| 12174s | think you're absolutely right he figured |
| 12176s | yeah he's not going to try and go for it |
| 12177s | anymore I'm safe to go and push out in |
| 12179s | the map and that just wasn't really true |
| 12181s | and now he's afraid to move out because |
| 12182s | he's paranoid he's like last time I |
| 12184s | moved out a couple of vectors showed up |
| 12186s | in my main and if you have a two or |
| 12188s | three base setup and You' got 35 or 40 |
| 12190s | IM walking around you're like yeah okay |
| 12192s | it's painful if one or two of them fall |
| 12193s | and you have a bit of lost mining time |
| 12195s | because they have to battle but also |
| 12197s | survive but on a one base economy that |
| 12198s | is something that you're really going to |
| 12200s | feel you feel that in every RTS and |
| 12202s | stormgate is no different in that regard |
| 12204s | I think that was an incredibly painful |
| 12206s | moment for Theory who actually didn't |
| 12207s | even get the creep cam by the way he did |
| 12209s | get the star Forge but didn't even get |
| 12211s | the bonus gold of clearing out the creep |
| 12213s | camp that means that those Crips are |
| 12214s | still there and man could potentially |
| 12216s | finish those camps off as well and take |
| 12218s | a control of that watchtower in the |
| 12219s | bottom right I guess the is getting |
| 12221s | there at this point so in the end he |
| 12223s | will get it and a still that he really |
| 12225s | used earlier toow the grow a little bit |
| 12228s | quicker into the mid game they 100% |
| 12230s | right he was afraid of the Run by again |
| 12232s | so he even left the skull to scout the |
| 12233s | kind of camp but also the jump in point |
| 12236s | and there kind of generally the movement |
| 12237s | of the vectors so it uh it was wise it |
| 12241s | is unfortunate because he actually is |
| 12243s | kind of a position perhaps where he |
| 12244s | needs to take a bit of a risk because he |
| 12246s | did take that damage so just that little |
| 12247s | bit of a delay on getting his own camps |
| 12249s | and uh well they just blink right in |
| 12251s | over they very cool as well he used the |
| 12253s | scan there to get some Vision blinks |
| 12255s | into the main base immediately and it is |
| 12257s | round two for Mana as he gets deep into |
| 12259s | the main base of theory Theory obviously |
| 12261s | does not want to lose any of these here |
| 12263s | but I think it's going to be inevitable |
| 12264s | that a few of them will fall two gowns |
| 12267s | is not going to be enough we have a |
| 12268s | couple of fiends showing up but one or |
| 12269s | two fiends also not enough Mana is just |
| 12272s | having a field day here in the main base |
| 12274s | of theory with these very quick and very |
| 12278s | awesome vectors that just seem to be |
| 12280s | able to get the job done they do seem to |
| 12282s | be doing that uh at the end of the day |
| 12284s | there's also just so much chaos you keep |
| 12287s | in mind it really messes with your build |
| 12288s | order it messes with your flow so |
| 12290s | further mistakes are more and more |
| 12292s | likely honestly that's the uh kind of |
| 12294s | the additional factor of being good at a |
| 12296s | tournament is keeping your cool and it |
| 12298s | can be difficult when you're losing like |
| 12299s | this Mana does end up losing a couple of |
| 12301s | these vectors as blink was temporarily |
| 12303s | on cool down but we look at the banks |
| 12305s | Mana sitting on 1200 luminite if he |
| 12308s | starts spending that he's going to have |
| 12309s | triple the supply of theory right now |
| 12311s | he's done a really good job in spending |
| 12312s | his money the only problem is zomie Gro |
| 12315s | is that he doesn't have a lot of it yeah |
| 12316s | know that's a big problem mon going to |
| 12318s | be slapping down a lot of production |
| 12319s | facilities some buildings uh some nodes |
| 12323s | powy panks I mean he still hasn't spin |
| 12325s | all of his money actually which is it's |
| 12328s | getting kind of weird now actually I |
| 12330s | don't know what he's waiting for but |
| 12331s | perhaps just having too much fun with |
| 12332s | the vectors right now or maybe he has |
| 12334s | enough no there's no way that he has |
| 12335s | enough camps about 10 argents at once so |
| 12338s | I don't know why he's saving money I |
| 12340s | think we'll take care of it eventually |
| 12342s | eventually yes I do believe that we can |
| 12343s | search some of these cre in James to to |
| 12345s | build them a little bit quicker |
| 12347s | feels like Mana is once more absolutely |
| 12349s | in the driver seat here as the is is |
| 12351s | having a hard time getting an army at |
| 12353s | this point the manace is not capable of |
| 12354s | getting an army every unit he builds is |
| 12356s | kind of getting picked up one by one |
| 12358s | even the hexon is going to get picked up |
| 12360s | what does a theory really have right now |
| 12362s | I think those two counts that's |
| 12363s | literally it oh that might that no |
| 12366s | that's not a good sign that is not a |
| 12368s | good sign at all unfortunately |
| 12370s | maybe I don't know maybe he did actually |
| 12372s | consider this back when he chose the |
| 12374s | other Maps he knew that that could be a |
| 12375s | blink in thought that he had a good |
| 12377s | enough start and then just kind of |
| 12379s | underestimated the potential um I can |
| 12383s | see it's very frustrating here Theory |
| 12385s | not going to give up quite yet but Mana |
| 12387s | finally getting all his production up |
| 12388s | now actually can spend that money he got |
| 12390s | a third base as well he took that kind |
| 12391s | of behind one as the natural anyway he |
| 12393s | does lose that uh Meat Farm thank you |
| 12396s | meat farm and not that that was helping |
| 12398s | out too much but at least it was |
| 12399s | something yeah well now we are Supply |
| 12401s | block so we do kind of need that need |
| 12403s | for at this point the man does not have |
| 12405s | one he basically has his main he's got |
| 12407s | his natural like the idea with the |
| 12408s | Shroud Stone I thought it was cute |
| 12410s | unfortunately Mano just found a very |
| 12412s | clever way to completely avoid it going |
| 12414s | to use one of his top bar abilities to |
| 12416s | completely make that camp disappear Mana |
| 12418s | is having a field day the only thing |
| 12420s | that he needs to do is start spending |
| 12422s | his money on M because the average |
| 12423s | unspent resources a little bit too high |
| 12426s | for a player of mana's caliber in |
| 12428s | literally any RTS we can think of oh I'm |
| 12430s | sorry if ever watch this pmana but it it |
| 12432s | is a little interesting you know um |
| 12434s | perhaps maybe a little too stuck in the |
| 12436s | ways of like well no on three bases I |
| 12437s | need three and then five creation |
| 12439s | Chambers and it's like actually if |
| 12440s | you're bad at RTS like I am you just |
| 12443s | realize better spend the money as you |
| 12444s | know 50 command centers come down but I |
| 12447s | think he also knows that he's just in |
| 12448s | such a winning position you know he's |
| 12449s | not really urgently doing much back at |
| 12451s | home perhaps he feels that keeping the |
| 12453s | tempo and momentum that he has created |
| 12455s | for himself is a little more important |
| 12456s | than keeping those resources low even |
| 12458s | though we are closing in at 2K at this |
| 12460s | point and that really is not where it |
| 12462s | should be looking but mana's going to |
| 12463s | get a few more power Banks couple of |
| 12465s | additional cre a Chambers I'm sure as |
| 12468s | we're just expending perhaps another |
| 12469s | collection array and he's just doing a |
| 12471s | really good job in resetting Theory into |
| 12474s | the Stone Age over and over again my |
| 12476s | four theory is still working with the |
| 12478s | most basic Roots the most basic guns |
| 12480s | can't really get much going but he does |
| 12482s | have at least is in expense we are |
| 12484s | getting a lot of imp so Theory does have |
| 12486s | something to be hopeful of this is not |
| 12488s | as disastrous as I have a one base |
| 12490s | economy with 11 imps on luminite and |
| 12493s | that is it like now we've got two bases |
| 12495s | we have our first magmod on relatively |
| 12497s | early as well but obviously Mana is |
| 12499s | still in complete control of this game |
| 12501s | just scanned ahead saw that there wasn't |
| 12503s | much to defend magmod is going to cause |
| 12505s | some issues but it's only one and it |
| 12507s | will get shot down this also only is a |
| 12510s | little bit closer as another magon Pops |
| 12512s | at a very appropriate time to really |
| 12514s | help out there but again while this does |
| 12517s | look good and this did just reduce the |
| 12518s | supply Gap it's also those 2,000 |
| 12519s | minerals or 2,000 luminite that Mana has |
| 12522s | that should be more like a 75 or 80 |
| 12524s | Supply to 50 that's actually really cool |
| 12526s | to see that a lot of the things that we |
| 12527s | know about traditional RTS is hold up |
| 12529s | here as well attacking upper ramp into |
| 12532s | static defenses is difficult even if you |
| 12534s | got a few more units do not |
| 12536s | underestimate the power of a tower like |
| 12538s | that early on or a couple of these |
| 12540s | fiends helping out obviously the guns |
| 12542s | are able to get a few more extra hits |
| 12543s | off uh that was a really good fight for |
| 12545s | Theory does not really change the state |
| 12547s | of this game Mana should still be in |
| 12549s | control but Mana is going to have to |
| 12550s | clean it up a little bit and he trly I'm |
| 12553s | sorry that we started St like a broken |
| 12554s | record over here we starts spending his |
| 12557s | money because it is becoming a little |
| 12558s | bit ridiculous to see a player of the |
| 12560s | caliber of Mana sitting at 2.8k luminite |
| 12564s | okay finally spent about 800 of that but |
| 12566s | it it's it's not just like okay man is |
| 12568s | really good at the game trust this guys |
| 12569s | it's actually one of those macro |
| 12572s | mistakes that might be lending itself to |
| 12574s | a comeback for Theory because he's not |
| 12576s | only making a huge macro mistake for |
| 12578s | minutes at this point guys he also did |
| 12580s | over dedicate the magmod Don did their |
| 12582s | job the second one timed out perfectly |
| 12584s | in theory I think he's got a little bit |
| 12586s | of optimism now there's there's that |
| 12588s | hope that is finally there I would love |
| 12590s | to see if the has like a hell Forge |
| 12592s | already if he's getting the magma done |
| 12593s | upgrade or have he got the upgrades on |
| 12596s | oh we got Shadow Flyers again well he |
| 12597s | really likes these units yeah that's |
| 12598s | early especially for a game where it |
| 12600s | feels like he hasn't been that rich it |
| 12602s | feels to me like investment it's his |
| 12605s | only way of counterattacking because |
| 12607s | they will be able just to Suicide bomb |
| 12609s | into the prisms so uh and if he gets the |
| 12613s | upgrade they also take the collection |
| 12614s | array like we did see in their first |
| 12615s | series too so I I do get it but I also |
| 12618s | agree that it's kind of expensive to get |
| 12619s | there and then uh oh I guess he was all |
| 12621s | thinking at the sights I kind of forgot |
| 12622s | that was there that doesn't really |
| 12624s | committed to by Mana he went back into |
| 12626s | vectors I mean honestly the Gs are |
| 12628s | obviously becoming better I assume that |
| 12630s | we've got the upgrades both of them they |
| 12632s | look faster as well the is really |
| 12634s | starting to get into a position where |
| 12635s | he's probably a little bit hopeful he's |
| 12637s | like man I've been doing surprisingly |
| 12638s | good as Mana is going to get on top of |
| 12640s | the third base here though and that is |
| 12642s | one that I'm afraid the is going to have |
| 12643s | to cancel he's going to try to fight |
| 12645s | he's going to drop a R zone he's going |
| 12647s | to go for it with the magedon as he's |
| 12649s | also using one of his top bar abilities |
| 12650s | no he's just building a tower by the |
| 12653s | well this is still going to be maybe too |
| 12654s | bad of a fight but the Observer just |
| 12656s | pointed out the argents don't actually |
| 12657s | even have their upgrade like MAA I think |
| 12659s | got I'm going to say I think he kind of |
| 12661s | lazy it doesn't matter it's kind of like |
| 12662s | he deserved to because he did so well in |
| 12664s | the early game but these are the reasons |
| 12666s | that theory has hope at all there's our |
| 12669s | emergency Tower it's a very powerful as |
| 12671s | it I think for 30 seconds it shoots |
| 12673s | twice as quick so it's really powerful |
| 12675s | regular sh already pretty good when the |
| 12677s | armies are not massive but using your |
| 12679s | top bar ability to summon one of those |
| 12681s | shr stones immediately makes them real |
| 12683s | powerful and is going to push Mana back |
| 12685s | temporarily after 30 seconds you still |
| 12687s | have your Tower so it's not like it |
| 12688s | disappears but OB the theory is still |
| 12691s | just a little low on units I think I |
| 12693s | maybe I missed I I missed it but I'm |
| 12695s | pretty sure that wasn't there now it is |
| 12696s | there um we could probably continue on |
| 12699s | the you know secondary and tertiary |
| 12700s | tiers in fact CU absolutely Mana is |
| 12703s | winning he has been winning and it would |
| 12705s | have required a lot more mistakes I |
| 12707s | think to actually lose this game yep all |
| 12709s | the Ain are here they are doing their |
| 12711s | thing we've got a couple of defectors |
| 12713s | still in the mix as well and him they |
| 12714s | can push out a little bit of damage but |
| 12716s | not enough to stop such a big army as |
| 12718s | this kills once more it is Mana who's |
| 12721s | going to take the one o lead well the |
| 12724s | theory had a cool game plan I like a |
| 12726s | couple of the things but the one move he |
| 12728s | just did not expect by those three |
| 12730s | vectors blinking onto The High Ground |
| 12732s | guess man used they SC for that the very |
| 12734s | first time as well blinked in the Army |
| 12736s | was way out of position and if you're |
| 12738s | only working with one base that just |
| 12740s | deals a devastating amount of damage to |
| 12742s | your work yeah it does uh completely |
| 12745s | threw his flow off I think you can |
| 12747s | really see his plans you know get to a |
| 12750s | solid foundation get the gauns get the |
| 12752s | magnons and then have Shadow flyers for |
| 12753s | harassment which are great for going |
| 12755s | around the map while you defend at home |
| 12757s | it's a great plan and then he can |
| 12759s | capitalize on that potential to go into |
| 12761s | the additional units more magmod Don |
| 12764s | maybe those Weavers that he likes right |
| 12766s | but he keeps on getting stopped just |
| 12767s | short so in that game he was stopped |
| 12769s | short very very early on but the last |
| 12771s | time we saw kind of a similar start he |
| 12773s | got stopped short later in the game but |
| 12775s | nonetheless he just got stopped before |
| 12777s | he could really get going y Mana |
| 12779s | obviously just kind of keeping up the |
| 12781s | pressure want to make sure that he did |
| 12782s | not let go of the grasp that he had on |
| 12784s | that game that's perhaps why marro was |
| 12787s | slacking a little bit or he was just too |
| 12788s | rich man he's like I've got so much |
| 12790s | income I'm not used to this they kept on |
| 12792s | building power backs kept on building |
| 12794s | creation Chambers but he couldn't quite |
| 12796s | spend it but it was all good cuz at |
| 12797s | pretty much any given moment Mana had |
| 12799s | that 20 30 Supply elad and that plus the |
| 12802s | piggy bank obviously made him feel very |
| 12804s | com it just still like very I actually |
| 12807s | want to ask him about it honestly you |
| 12808s | know did you just actually kind of get |
| 12811s | so sure of yourself you focus more on |
| 12812s | the micro than the macro or did you uh |
| 12814s | have something we didn't notice as far |
| 12816s | as a block they don't they don't get |
| 12817s | supply block the celestial Supply is |
| 12819s | actually very interesting and definitely |
| 12821s | different than most other rtss but |
| 12823s | perhaps we'll get into it after the |
| 12824s | introduction of the players the force |
| 12826s | map bottom right we got Fury top left is |
| 12829s | Mana so we got a diagonal spawn here yep |
| 12832s | a lost hope cross map it is a very fun |
| 12834s | map where obviously you've got a |
| 12835s | relatively safe expand to take that |
| 12837s | gives you a bit of high ground to work |
| 12839s | with as well you've got a health camp |
| 12841s | nearby that help you out defensively if |
| 12844s | you're forced to defend against some |
| 12845s | early aggression of your opponents you |
| 12847s | can see Theory opening up with the CH |
| 12849s | playay for that he builds on the ramp |
| 12851s | with main to the Natural and then gets |
| 12853s | an iron Vault and a farm on the low |
| 12855s | Ground start creeping and then |
| 12857s | eventually once we have enough resources |
| 12859s | probably drop a second base I really |
| 12861s | love the idea of just going for a mix of |
| 12862s | a couple of guns and magm modons and |
| 12865s | then eventually getting the Flyers with |
| 12867s | out of the Spire that's not something I |
| 12869s | feel like you should really Rush |
| 12870s | especially not if you've been hurting |
| 12872s | economically because it does cost a |
| 12874s | worker it cost a lot of resources to R |
| 12876s | those buildings and you need an army to |
| 12878s | fight with whatever Mana throwing at you |
| 12880s | because Mana does really seem to be a |
| 12882s | pretty damn aggressive player not in the |
| 12884s | sense of he's all in all the time but |
| 12886s | he's absolutely going to be in that's |
| 12889s | for sure somebody is like actually in uh |
| 12891s | Starcraft as well need a couple more |
| 12893s | allins there but a very aggressive |
| 12895s | player indeed so we have him going for |
| 12897s | an expansion the natural is up perhaps |
| 12899s | even quickly into a third expansion uh I |
| 12902s | think that is actually the plan yeah so |
| 12905s | he's going to be a little greedy here on |
| 12906s | one of the larger Maps it also is an |
| 12908s | uncertain spawn going up the top left I |
| 12910s | think he did actually Scout it with the |
| 12911s | hex eventually but point is that was |
| 12913s | actually the longest that it can be Rush |
| 12914s | distance wise kind of funny cuz I don't |
| 12916s | think Mana necessarily knows yet right |
| 12918s | the theories in the bottom right I |
| 12920s | thought his hexen oh mana mana yeah no I |
| 12922s | don't think that happened could have |
| 12924s | technically taken a base here that is in |
| 12926s | the main base of |
| 12927s | theory cuz it's vertical or cross you're |
| 12931s | actually right that's that yeah unless |
| 12933s | we miss the scan which I was also it |
| 12935s | can't be hard to catch when it actually |
| 12937s | happens you know kind like a spiral and |
| 12938s | then it's it's you know kind of gone but |
| 12940s | that's also what I wondered in The |
| 12941s | Parting versus Mana game if uh man |
| 12943s | didn't even realize that he was actually |
| 12945s | in those particular positions but anyway |
| 12948s | uh we have Mana getting a lot of economy |
| 12951s | and is going to be playing naturally |
| 12953s | into more of a mid game giving Theory |
| 12955s | perhaps his chance to really show his |
| 12956s | play style off finally yeah and that's |
| 12958s | going to be awesome cuz I felt that we |
| 12959s | were so close on Jager Mo of theory |
| 12962s | working with the units that he was |
| 12964s | dreaming of getting all the upgrades and |
| 12966s | then showing us some cool moves with |
| 12967s | maybe nice G movement great stumps |
| 12970s | Weavers doing that thing and abducting |
| 12972s | an nimman perhaps unfortunately none of |
| 12974s | that really came into play but perhaps |
| 12976s | here cross map lost hope if it's ever |
| 12978s | going to happen it should happen it |
| 12981s | seems that Mana or did throw down a scan |
| 12984s | in the bottom left main spawn and after |
| 12986s | he realized that the was not there he |
| 12989s | went for I think that's what uh coming |
| 12993s | in the third |
| 12995s | commentator I mean it's a funny expend |
| 12998s | to take because the ultimate hdden |
| 13000s | expend yeah but that is always a |
| 13002s | frustration of celestials you know we've |
| 13003s | been seeing a lot of how they play out |
| 13005s | just like a one or two base but this is |
| 13007s | one of the rare times I guess we see |
| 13009s | just instantly into three and then uh |
| 13012s | going into the mid game but |
| 13014s | uh I don't uh I I'm looking forward to |
| 13018s | the mid game but Mana is going to be |
| 13020s | very rich and Theory does not know about |
| 13022s | that yeah but theory is creeping like a |
| 13024s | madman though he already took out four |
| 13025s | camps at this point meanwhile Mana only |
| 13027s | took out a single one I kind of feel |
| 13029s | like we live in the era where creeping |
| 13031s | is supposed to be a bit more powerful |
| 13033s | than taking expenses m is taking a lot |
| 13035s | of damage so much one of his vectors |
| 13036s | here against these creeps that are |
| 13037s | really not very powerful yet but I guess |
| 13040s | if we're not paying attention they will |
| 13041s | start dealing some damage finally Mana |
| 13043s | gets his second camp but this has got to |
| 13045s | feel good for T cuz finally he can play |
| 13048s | a normal game where his entire game plan |
| 13050s | did not get disrupted by a couple of |
| 13052s | vectors right in his face from the very |
| 13054s | getg go yeah no it's very true I I think |
| 13056s | we're going to see possibly I know it's |
| 13058s | calling it very very soon but it's |
| 13059s | definitely the best chance for Theory to |
| 13061s | get a map versus mana and uh the |
| 13063s | creeping has been excellent as you |
| 13065s | pointed out that's one of the big |
| 13066s | reasons why you don't want to expand not |
| 13068s | just that maybe you can't because |
| 13070s | they're going to snowball against you |
| 13071s | Army wise but you also can't CU you're |
| 13074s | not the one getting the camp so they're |
| 13075s | going to snowball against you camping |
| 13077s | MoneyWise which might have already |
| 13079s | happened we have a lot of units out here |
| 13081s | and man is going to be forced to retreat |
| 13083s | unfortunately those argents not nearly |
| 13085s | as fast almost get surrounded not quite |
| 13087s | but it looks like those two are gone no |
| 13089s | matter what this is the power of the |
| 13090s | chemp as well Theory having both of the |
| 13092s | speed cams at the moment look how quick |
| 13094s | his army is even though he doesn't even |
| 13096s | have some of those mid game upgrades |
| 13097s | that we expect players to normally uh |
| 13099s | get perhaps around this time not quite |
| 13102s | yet but they're going to come online |
| 13103s | soon but because he's got both CS his |
| 13105s | army is so freaking quick and he can |
| 13106s | actually finally start battling those |
| 13108s | vectors without feeling like his army is |
| 13110s | slow and the army of Mana so quick yeah |
| 13113s | Mana forc to pull everything back to |
| 13116s | help defend now fortunately that high |
| 13117s | ground with the ramp with all those |
| 13119s | power Banks is going to be helpful in |
| 13121s | defending we've got another base |
| 13124s | actually uh that's four bases from |
| 13126s | then right and that was scouted but I |
| 13128s | don't believe the one on the other base |
| 13130s | uh the other spawn position has been |
| 13132s | scouted yet but it's actually very smart |
| 13133s | for Mana to take this base because if he |
| 13135s | didn't then Theory might be wondering |
| 13137s | like okay what on Earth have you been |
| 13139s | doing cuz you're not creeping no near as |
| 13141s | much you haven't been annoying with |
| 13142s | vectors in my face you somehow suddenly |
| 13145s | let me creep the entire map and you're |
| 13146s | only on two bases question mark like |
| 13149s | that doesn't make any sense so I think |
| 13150s | it's very important for Mana to take the |
| 13152s | third base to at least give at least |
| 13154s | give Theory the ideas like oh just |
| 13156s | investing in my economy that's all there |
| 13157s | is nothing else to it of course he does |
| 13160s | not want to see Theory find that hidden |
| 13161s | base that's actually a really big |
| 13163s | problem that is an excellent point I |
| 13164s | mean is it is it worth sacrificing it |
| 13166s | will I say it for the first time maybe |
| 13167s | not now I mean weirdly kind of but he's |
| 13170s | so far managing to not have to straight |
| 13172s | up sacrificing it air unit's not getting |
| 13175s | back there or uh not air yeah well air |
| 13177s | unit is not getting back there so the |
| 13178s | collection rate when it is microed away |
| 13180s | um yeah can take advantage of that yeah |
| 13182s | that's the third base on this map I |
| 13184s | think is in general very hard to attack |
| 13186s | because you have to go past that High |
| 13187s | Ground of the natural of mana and that's |
| 13189s | where the towers are that's where the |
| 13191s | units are standing too so that's it's |
| 13193s | not really feasible to attack the third |
| 13195s | without being able to attack the natural |
| 13197s | and attacking the natural up that tiny |
| 13199s | ramp into all that static D is just |
| 13201s | incredibly difficult so I think Mana |
| 13203s | knew that okay this might get awkward |
| 13205s | but I should never lose it and he did |
| 13207s | not end up losing it now that doesn't |
| 13209s | mean that it's all bad news for Theory |
| 13211s | still not aware yet of that hidden base |
| 13213s | man will just continue creeping and I do |
| 13215s | think think his Supply is going to be |
| 13216s | higher this game than it's ever been |
| 13218s | throughout any of the games he's played |
| 13219s | against mana and I'm so excited to see |
| 13222s | him uh create his dream composition the |
| 13224s | right amount of guns the right amount of |
| 13226s | magnons maybe even a couple of hellfires |
| 13228s | in the mix we'll see I think it's going |
| 13230s | to be fun I think so uh you know I've |
| 13232s | been talking about how there's a |
| 13234s | sentiment or we've certainly seen some |
| 13235s | games where the infernal in the late |
| 13238s | game looks stronger and one of those |
| 13240s | definitely highlight in The Taste uh |
| 13241s | tasteless TV tournament where it looked |
| 13244s | like the celestial had built up |
| 13245s | literally Max at arm I believe with a |
| 13247s | bunch of static defense and then they're |
| 13248s | like understandably everyone was like |
| 13250s | well I guess that's it right and the |
| 13251s | infernals actually broke it so seriously |
| 13254s | do not underestimate the late game just |
| 13255s | because we haven't seen Theory able to |
| 13257s | use it correctly yet mhm we already see |
| 13260s | that the first upgrades for the magmod |
| 13262s | are being researched in the hell Forge |
| 13264s | so that's nice to see that that they're |
| 13265s | going to be able to uh stun units while |
| 13267s | they use their stomp ability of course |
| 13269s | there's a tier three upgrade as well |
| 13271s | that's going to make them a lot quicker |
| 13273s | it's a massive upgrade but it takes a |
| 13275s | little while to get three as B is |
| 13277s | thinking about his first driveby of the |
| 13278s | game with five vectors the magmod was |
| 13281s | right there zombie v did not fight |
| 13283s | apparently because theory has found the |
| 13285s | hidden base so that is pretty big but |
| 13287s | it's going to be less big if we end up |
| 13289s | losing a whole bunch of imps at home |
| 13290s | against these three vectors well so far |
| 13292s | not losing a a lot now we finally might |
| 13295s | have some go down Theory does have three |
| 13298s | bases to actually crank out these imp |
| 13300s | especially with the top bar ability so |
| 13303s | some can be sacrificed but obviously if |
| 13305s | this killed like 20 that would be a |
| 13306s | different issue I don't think got |
| 13308s | anywhere close I mean this was |
| 13310s | bothersome this you know distracted him |
| 13311s | a little bit but as he found killed the |
| 13313s | base so the distraction really wasn't |
| 13315s | that important PR one has now already |
| 13317s | killed four out of five I think your |
| 13319s | spot on this definitely worked out a lot |
| 13320s | better for Theory I might start kicking |
| 13323s | himself a little bit right for |
| 13324s | completely changing up the game plan and |
| 13326s | letting Theory play the kind of game |
| 13328s | that I'm sure theory is very comfortable |
| 13330s | with and also incredibly good at cuz |
| 13332s | that man Creed fast took full control of |
| 13334s | the map got the speed too and then even |
| 13337s | without those tier two upgrades on the |
| 13338s | grounds his army was so quick so fast |
| 13341s | was able to put up a very good fight |
| 13343s | early on right off the get go yeah it uh |
| 13346s | it's not not the plan mono wanted but it |
| 13349s | is still chugging along right like is uh |
| 13351s | as much as he's been under pressure he's |
| 13353s | lost the base he's had to temporarily |
| 13355s | give up the fourth base now the third |
| 13358s | like he's actually still in the game |
| 13359s | obviously but it is a question of how |
| 13361s | you're going to deal with that late game |
| 13363s | Army especially on a map that you can |
| 13364s | actually get this human humous wide |
| 13366s | battle you know it's not a bunch of |
| 13367s | chokes where the dark prophecy is going |
| 13369s | to capitalize the most it ever can in |
| 13372s | fact the dark Prophecy in the middle of |
| 13373s | this map might not even be that |
| 13375s | aggressive no but it's still I think |
| 13377s | always good especially yeah especially |
| 13379s | against all these guns that are out |
| 13381s | there what is very tricky when you play |
| 13383s | infernal is that it's so easy to get |
| 13384s | supply block over and over again once |
| 13386s | you've got the guns and you get the |
| 13388s | upgrade plate AES then you get a fiend |
| 13390s | for every single creep you kill and you |
| 13392s | start killing four or five creeps you |
| 13393s | get plus five Supply and this is why we |
| 13395s | going to see Theory be Supply block |
| 13397s | every now and then it's absolutely worth |
| 13399s | it to just drop like two or three meat |
| 13401s | farms in advance even if that's not like |
| 13403s | the cleanest macro you're really going |
| 13405s | to need it otherwise you're Supply block |
| 13407s | over and over again and there are |
| 13408s | moments where you do want to start |
| 13410s | building some in where you do need a |
| 13411s | next magon or you know something among |
| 13413s | those lines and we kind of speaking of |
| 13416s | that Supply block as we see all these |
| 13418s | upgrades coming online they're really |
| 13419s | actually already on the way the tier |
| 13421s | three with the magnons tier three on the |
| 13423s | animancer just a reminder the way that |
| 13425s | Celestial work is they don't actually |
| 13426s | have a supply block they have like a |
| 13428s | like a soft cap I guess you could call |
| 13430s | it where if they run out of energy then |
| 13432s | their units are bad and their |
| 13433s | production's kind of bad too hasn't |
| 13434s | happened I think in any of these games |
| 13435s | as of yet but just wanted to note that |
| 13437s | we do have a potential fight coming in |
| 13438s | the middle of the map yep seems like |
| 13440s | Mana is pretty confident in his army |
| 13442s | he's got a lot of Arin we've got a cabal |
| 13444s | or two in the mixes oh mag from the top |
| 13446s | right that could have been so massive |
| 13448s | but I think theory is waiting for his |
| 13449s | upgrade to finish up so they can get a |
| 13451s | little bit quicker and it's going to be |
| 13452s | easier to get those big stumps going |
| 13454s | does the cabal have the lift that is my |
| 13458s | question because they can lift the |
| 13459s | magmod Don right out of the engagement |
| 13461s | and it's just literally floating in the |
| 13462s | air so that might be the plan um the |
| 13465s | abilitate is also kind of powerful so |
| 13467s | it's useful to have um I guess we can't |
| 13470s | actually see if they have the upgrade or |
| 13471s | not but we will I guess if it ever if if |
| 13472s | if a magmod Don lifts guys that's what |
| 13474s | that is oh I love it theory is indeed |
| 13476s | setting up a very very very wide concave |
| 13479s | just to make sure that he can nullify |
| 13480s | the effect of the dark prophecy a little |
| 13482s | bit and those Animan won't be able to |
| 13484s | trap his entire Army this really does |
| 13486s | feel like a crazy amount of infernals |
| 13488s | that's a lot of animancer but they |
| 13490s | channel that dark prophecy guys so if |
| 13492s | the magmod on push the argents out of |
| 13493s | the way then the animancer either have |
| 13496s | to die or just give up on the channel |
| 13498s | and run away so that's what theory is |
| 13500s | trying to go over he's just running past |
| 13502s | the dark prophecy jumping on top of the |
| 13503s | animancer even has a hellborn coming out |
| 13506s | here to help out and it does look like |
| 13507s | theory is finally going to get a map |
| 13509s | against Mana yep that was a great fight |
| 13511s | he just had enough right and he still |
| 13513s | has so many high HP units left over and |
| 13516s | Mana is forced to run back home maybe |
| 13518s | with setic defenses and another an we |
| 13520s | can actually start stabilizing as that |
| 13521s | is a pretty good dark prophecy a couple |
| 13523s | of those gowns do get stuck and |
| 13525s | obviously like those fights on the |
| 13527s | center of the map are fantastic cuz |
| 13528s | those gowns they create so many fiends |
| 13531s | and it makes it almost impossible for |
| 13532s | the Ain to stand there and fight but |
| 13534s | eventually if you run out of f you do |
| 13536s | need to be a tiny bit more careful as's |
| 13538s | going to try to these magmod and he's |
| 13541s | doing pretty good the Animan is really |
| 13543s | are amazing but they do run out of |
| 13545s | energy thank the Lord eventually they do |
| 13549s | yes they do and unfortunately some of |
| 13551s | these units are not really great at |
| 13552s | walking away the Argin do get a tiny |
| 13554s | speed boost actually with the upgrade so |
| 13555s | they're a little bit faster they able to |
| 13557s | chase those magmod and the hellborn the |
| 13559s | hellborn is just generally very slow and |
| 13561s | so oh now we have the shadow Flyers |
| 13563s | finally coming in you can see they just |
| 13564s | instantly took that out they could have |
| 13565s | gone out the prism I guess if they |
| 13567s | wanted but they're looking for the |
| 13568s | collection arrays are more expensive |
| 13570s | they take longer to actually get set up |
| 13572s | and it's just frankly more obnoxious to |
| 13574s | have to actually replace those compared |
| 13575s | to the prism so I do love the idea of |
| 13577s | the Shadow fire harass I absolutely love |
| 13579s | it he just couldn't get to a place where |
| 13581s | it was actually viable with how far |
| 13583s | behind he was a lot of the Creeps have |
| 13585s | respawned though so Mana is still going |
| 13586s | to be able to get some income if he just |
| 13588s | takes out a few of those camps on his |
| 13589s | side of the map and of course he didn't |
| 13591s | all of his collection arrays at once I |
| 13593s | mean it's still a close game it's still |
| 13595s | very competitive I I want to say that I |
| 13597s | like it for Theory but if the an's |
| 13599s | account goes up and Mana can force a |
| 13602s | fight in a slightly more chokey area |
| 13604s | rather than like the most open place on |
| 13606s | any map in the current map Pool there is |
| 13608s | a chance that it's going to be a lot |
| 13609s | more difficult for theor to take a fight |
| 13611s | as good as he previously did yeah it's a |
| 13613s | very good point but Theory hasn't added |
| 13615s | on all of the units that he possibly can |
| 13617s | there is one big bad unit that we might |
| 13619s | actually see in a game like this that is |
| 13621s | the dragon yeah used to be a top bar |
| 13623s | ability now it's built from the tier |
| 13625s | three Shrine and uh does still cost |
| 13627s | energy but also resources another battle |
| 13629s | in the middle of the map Dark prophecy |
| 13630s | coming down here a little awkward on the |
| 13632s | top side almost a surround not quite |
| 13634s | unfortunately when argents move away the |
| 13636s | Animan are then targeted and there's the |
| 13639s | dragon it is quite powerful guys it does |
| 13641s | get upgrades as well very difficult to |
| 13644s | take down Theory now once again on the |
| 13646s | hunt through the middle of the map and a |
| 13648s | lot of Fes in the mix and those FES |
| 13650s | really make it complicated for those Ain |
| 13652s | to just stand there and fight or even to |
| 13654s | just kite successfully and Mana is H |
| 13656s | kind of running out of space he's going |
| 13658s | to try to get up the ramp here and |
| 13660s | eventually make it to a save area but |
| 13662s | the supply theory is not dropping if |
| 13664s | anything it's only going going up |
| 13665s | because of the plague xes on the guns |
| 13667s | can we get the surround with all the FI |
| 13669s | it's the semi surround zombie gr but it |
| 13671s | does look damn good one more anim shows |
| 13673s | up from the left side it's going to make |
| 13675s | it a bit more difficult for Theory to |
| 13676s | chase but theory is absolutely crushing |
| 13678s | this fight up to this point perhaps one |
| 13680s | big stum from the magedon look at that |
| 13682s | magedon go yeah yeah it's uh actually |
| 13685s | get a little closer in Supply eventually |
| 13687s | dark broy help to take out the fiend |
| 13689s | overwhelming that's usually what happens |
| 13691s | when an infernal really wins and fend |
| 13693s | pop everywhere it gets so many units but |
| 13696s | dark prophecy definitely good at taking |
| 13697s | those out so there wasn't as much of a |
| 13700s | snowball effect but as you see Theory |
| 13702s | get back to macro boom jumps up 40 more |
| 13704s | Supply 70 Supply difference overall |
| 13706s | still has the dragon in play which could |
| 13708s | also go harass if you ever wanted to |
| 13709s | back away from the fight yep obviously |
| 13711s | the does not need to stick around here |
| 13713s | forever he does not need to kill Mana |
| 13715s | but he seems to believe that he still |
| 13716s | has the better Army and he can still get |
| 13718s | a couple of good trades off with the |
| 13720s | dragon supporting his gos and his boots |
| 13722s | and his be at the back I really don't |
| 13724s | think should be stacking up that ramp |
| 13726s | even if we've got a 40/50 supply late |
| 13728s | zombie grub why don't we just creep a |
| 13730s | little get another base play it safe and |
| 13732s | let's get that first point on the board |
| 13734s | against the man who's been a bit of a |
| 13735s | menace to him today yeah absolutely was |
| 13738s | able to prove that he absolutely knows |
| 13740s | what he's doing verus Celestial against |
| 13741s | Max head but Mana did prove a little bit |
| 13743s | different now he's getting his chance to |
| 13745s | shine but you could absolutely argue |
| 13746s | Mana kind of gave him a chance to shine |
| 13748s | maybe the map spawns did actually maybe |
| 13751s | that's why Mana changed his plans but |
| 13753s | yeah this is uh maybe not something that |
| 13755s | man is going to allow happen again in |
| 13757s | such a fashion but you know it's been |
| 13758s | kind of Theory's goal survive until he |
| 13760s | gets to this very very powerful Army he |
| 13762s | did check for hidden bases didn't find |
| 13764s | any he knows that Mana is on his last |
| 13765s | breath kind of funny how Claris was just |
| 13768s | joking that nobody would ever take the |
| 13769s | center and now they're both taking the |
| 13771s | center at the same time over here on |
| 13773s | lost help but the obviously has a 100 |
| 13776s | army supply lead look has a lot of imps |
| 13778s | perhaps he has the ability on the Imp as |
| 13780s | well so he can start blowing couple of |
| 13782s | them up if he wants to but now I guess |
| 13784s | we're just going to mind some theorum is |
| 13787s | going to try to do the same thing but |
| 13788s | Theory should take control of that |
| 13790s | watchtower in the center I think the |
| 13792s | moment he does that he's going to see |
| 13793s | like wait a minute you're here too it's |
| 13795s | not just me it's both of us well I think |
| 13797s | my Army is a whole lot better than yours |
| 13800s | and he's not wrong no he's not Mana is |
| 13803s | still in the game but what does his army |
| 13805s | look like two animancer argents and one |
| 13808s | cabal which um I don't know if it's |
| 13810s | helped all that much and well an anim oh |
| 13812s | both animancer are actually out of the |
| 13814s | equation now what Weir they running cast |
| 13815s | him okay well they're they're coming in |
| 13817s | from the back side with dark Chan dark |
| 13819s | prophecy but it's just Theory knows he's |
| 13821s | overwhelming he doesn't care y there is |
| 13823s | a lot of Inferno here with a lot of very |
| 13825s | high spe unit especially the magn are |
| 13827s | very difficult to take out GG gets C and |
| 13831s | we are going to game three for the first |
| 13833s | time between these two Gamers Mana |
| 13835s | decided to switch it up and play a very |
| 13838s | ma heavy star with a hidden base on a m |
| 13841s | right yeah it makes sense to take a |
| 13842s | hidden base cuz it is really hard to |
| 13844s | find all the these bases especially the |
| 13846s | pocket base over a location where |
| 13848s | somebody did not spawn that would be the |
| 13850s | last base I ever checked it was one of |
| 13852s | the last bases that I think the checked |
| 13854s | for as well but I'm sure that it just |
| 13855s | felt a little bit off it's like you |
| 13857s | found so much success being so |
| 13859s | aggressive in my face making life hell |
| 13862s | and all of a sudden you've got the |
| 13863s | slowest two and a half threee base setup |
| 13865s | ever and I can just creep the entire map |
| 13867s | something probably just not feel right |
| 13869s | with Theory yeah that's uh definitely |
| 13872s | the case I would argue so good on Theory |
| 13875s | you know he didn't get caught up he |
| 13876s | didn't get kind of paralyzed just by his |
| 13878s | streak against Mana which again like you |
| 13880s | know we talk about the pros and their |
| 13882s | good mechanics but then we also talk |
| 13884s | about how good they are in a best of and |
| 13886s | that's something that theory is proving |
| 13888s | at least a little bit here so he didn't |
| 13890s | get intimidated just because he had lost |
| 13892s | the previous three games against him he |
| 13893s | was like oh no that is what's happening |
| 13895s | I will take the camps and I will |
| 13896s | snowball so that confidence is really |
| 13898s | important as he goes into game three yep |
| 13900s | and his army was so quick already even |
| 13902s | without any of those tier two upgrades |
| 13904s | he was flying after took both the speed |
| 13906s | camps that really does have a big impact |
| 13908s | on how your Army moves around the map |
| 13910s | especially a large map like lost hope |
| 13912s | Mana probably regretting that decision a |
| 13914s | tiny bit feeling a little bit silly |
| 13917s | obviously had his little Factor run by a |
| 13919s | given point I was five of them I got a |
| 13921s | few imp here and there but also not |
| 13923s | really what he was looking for but Mana |
| 13925s | did so incredibly well in a all of those |
| 13927s | previous games is got in and he got out |
| 13930s | but this time he got in and he never got |
| 13931s | out he actually ended up losing all five |
| 13933s | of them and that was obviously a painful |
| 13934s | moment moment all right we're back on |
| 13936s | jaged Maul another map that theory did |
| 13938s | get close but not quite in the top side |
| 13940s | it is Mana once again bottom side Theory |
| 13943s | this was a frustrating map because of |
| 13945s | how you could rush through the middle |
| 13946s | but when it comes to the base setup that |
| 13948s | I think theory is going for the natural |
| 13950s | is kind of able to be blocking the main |
| 13952s | obviously and then the third also has a |
| 13954s | very tight choke so you think |
| 13955s | defensively that might be well too but |
| 13957s | that did kind of bite him in the butt a |
| 13959s | little in that game because he could not |
| 13961s | get a great concave he couldn't get his |
| 13963s | Weavers close enough it was lot of the |
| 13966s | way Mana played last game but I think he |
| 13967s | also just had better chances to take |
| 13969s | good fights on a map like that well I |
| 13971s | think the hexen has found it immediately |
| 13973s | now the star Forge does go down but it's |
| 13975s | still nice to get that confirmation out |
| 13977s | yeah the was looking for it he finds it |
| 13980s | I'm a tiny bit surprised that we're |
| 13981s | playing on this map once more ma really |
| 13983s | did not get a lot of momentum going now |
| 13985s | sure he ended up winning the game and |
| 13987s | you might just think well if I won on it |
| 13989s | why would I just not play it again but I |
| 13991s | I felt that was Omega close and I think |
| 13993s | with one or two different late game |
| 13995s | Decisions by Theory if he would have his |
| 13997s | resources at bit different have earlier |
| 13999s | focus on the magma and getting all those |
| 14001s | flying unit TR later if he hold one kind |
| 14005s | of feel like we could have been looking |
| 14006s | at a similar game what with just lost |
| 14008s | hope obviously Mana perhaps did not know |
| 14010s | that before the series started but it |
| 14012s | feels scary cuz the start felt really |
| 14015s | strong for Theory and I don't see any |
| 14016s | reason why it should be different this |
| 14018s | time does end up moving ground |
| 14020s | immediately is also the case uh remember |
| 14022s | that he kind of fought over the Mona |
| 14024s | heal camp for a long time or maybe he |
| 14026s | could have capitalized on his map |
| 14027s | control to get more economy just ways |
| 14029s | that he could improve that game of which |
| 14031s | he was already in a good foundation but |
| 14033s | then just kind of missed that that power |
| 14035s | play towards the end he wasn't quite |
| 14036s | ready to go and especially being |
| 14039s | defensive on this map you get into those |
| 14041s | chokes there are some Open Spaces over |
| 14044s | to the left which is where he would want |
| 14045s | to actually use his army oh that's big |
| 14047s | that is very very big Mana a little bit |
| 14050s | greedy there really wanted to get that |
| 14051s | second count and he got it but at the |
| 14054s | cost of a and that was the healthy |
| 14055s | Factor as well well zombie gr everything |
| 14058s | that we were touching upon the first |
| 14059s | minute of this game is kind of happening |
| 14061s | last time theory had a good start this |
| 14063s | time it's even better you got to be |
| 14065s | really unhappy with his your mana and we |
| 14067s | clearly know how powerful this build is |
| 14069s | with Mana cuz we saw that in the very |
| 14071s | first game that these guys played but on |
| 14073s | this map with that Health Camp with the |
| 14075s | support of the meat farm with those |
| 14077s | fiends early on just feels like it's an |
| 14079s | amazing map for the to play the kind of |
| 14081s | game that he wants to play is not a good |
| 14084s | one for thisf spefic opener of Mana yeah |
| 14086s | it's a very good chance for him |
| 14088s | especially if he improves on some of the |
| 14089s | notes of the first time around now Mana |
| 14092s | can also improve on some things |
| 14093s | obviously not not so far but I mean as |
| 14096s | far as his mid game maybe he doesn't go |
| 14098s | into the air units maybe he doesn't |
| 14100s | actually try and play with that and um |
| 14102s | maybe that improves it a little bit for |
| 14103s | him too or maybe he actually gets to his |
| 14105s | own air harassment which is clearly his |
| 14107s | plan and then it just they all kind of |
| 14108s | died very |
| 14110s | impressive I was wondering if Mana was |
| 14112s | going to try to wake up the big bat |
| 14114s | creep there while theory was working on |
| 14116s | his star Forge feel like that could have |
| 14118s | maybe saved his star Forge for a couple |
| 14119s | of seconds as the first Vector Drive By |
| 14122s | is a effect once more there is a shroud |
| 14124s | there helping out a little bit Mana is |
| 14126s | being a little bit Reckless as he's |
| 14127s | going to lose the first Vector very |
| 14129s | quickly does save the second one gets |
| 14131s | two gs does not really feel like these |
| 14133s | traits are worth it as Mana loses the |
| 14136s | second Vector too oh my goodness zombie |
| 14138s | grub the man who was in total control |
| 14140s | won three maps in a row over the |
| 14142s | American infernal player of aftermath |
| 14144s | Sports having a bit of a nightmare here |
| 14147s | yeah absolutely a nightmare 100% now |
| 14149s | theory is not trying to push the |
| 14151s | advantage as much as last okay there we |
| 14153s | go we are going to get in the middle of |
| 14154s | the map we're going to take the vision |
| 14156s | camp that is the easier one to take and |
| 14157s | then perhaps actually challenge that |
| 14159s | Health Camp and I wonder if Mana is |
| 14161s | going to have a worse defense cuz it was |
| 14162s | close in the very beginning it kind of |
| 14164s | became evident he had enough defense at |
| 14166s | his base to hold but he couldn't hold |
| 14167s | the health camp for very long and that |
| 14169s | might actually go even better for theory |
| 14171s | in this game here really cool build by |
| 14173s | theor just a strong open on this map |
| 14175s | specifically I mean Mana may get his |
| 14177s | health camp but here he can just safely |
| 14179s | go for the camp in the top left that's |
| 14180s | once more going to Skyrocket his Supply |
| 14182s | should be able to get another theme |
| 14184s | going to going to give him some bonus |
| 14185s | money that he can spend at home |
| 14187s | successfully I am incredibly curious to |
| 14190s | see what Mana can do here to start |
| 14191s | turning this around cuz it really does |
| 14193s | feel that almost everything that could |
| 14195s | have gone wrong for the man who won the |
| 14197s | first three games when these two played |
| 14199s | against each other has gone wrong one |
| 14200s | more thing goes wrong he still doesn't |
| 14202s | even have control of the Health Camp wow |
| 14204s | oh my goodness it much worse it is much |
| 14206s | worse that's just it is what it is that |
| 14208s | is much much worse now Theory who again |
| 14210s | maybe over you know invested a little |
| 14212s | bit in that first jacked mul game didn't |
| 14214s | successfully break the natural here now |
| 14216s | we got power Banks of Plenty um had |
| 14218s | maybe a chance there to continue on |
| 14220s | obviously had a back away from the |
| 14221s | overcharge but there you go it's now |
| 14223s | gone comes back in only two argents to |
| 14226s | help out AR ship trying to help out too |
| 14228s | but if the's got more units on the way |
| 14230s | this is going to get very difficult and |
| 14232s | we know how Ain can be very powerful but |
| 14234s | just kind of feels like this is going to |
| 14235s | be one of these moments where they spawn |
| 14237s | one by one and die one by one now we do |
| 14239s | have overcharge being used there that's |
| 14241s | going to push these units away from the |
| 14242s | infernal play for a little bit small Mis |
| 14244s | r on the guns there tiny bit sloppy but |
| 14247s | I feel the Theory start has been more |
| 14249s | than good enough to get away with a tiny |
| 14250s | micro error second obviously can't keep |
| 14254s | on doing this but I still really like it |
| 14256s | for the American Inferno player even |
| 14258s | though overcharge get dropped to this |
| 14260s | time in return he at least gets an a |
| 14263s | yeah yeah I was worried I mean if you |
| 14264s | didn't didn't have an overcharge and |
| 14266s | that Ray is actually in trouble now that |
| 14269s | is going to successfully defend Mana is |
| 14272s | going to get his two bases by the looks |
| 14274s | of it but it was very very costly Theory |
| 14277s | should have had time to actually build |
| 14279s | up his natural and probably thinking |
| 14280s | about a third as well he did just spend |
| 14282s | his money so third is coming down oh he |
| 14284s | just spent his money on all the imps to |
| 14285s | saturate there you go we can obviously |
| 14288s | once we have be trading out some units |
| 14289s | you gather up energy and your top bar a |
| 14291s | lot quicker and then you can reset the |
| 14293s | charges of your main base you build |
| 14294s | three workers you're down to zero use |
| 14297s | that ability get three more charges |
| 14298s | build three more imp immediately it's a |
| 14300s | great way to spend your money and make |
| 14301s | sure you're going to get richer in the |
| 14303s | future yep y there's in a powerful |
| 14306s | position definitely feeling more like |
| 14307s | the last game and Mana is the one that's |
| 14309s | got to figure out how to deal with it |
| 14311s | this is a choke your map right so I I |
| 14313s | mentioned how the battles will still be |
| 14315s | different just because of the map if |
| 14317s | Mana can get dark Prophecy in the same |
| 14319s | type of Choke On Theory's Third Base it |
| 14322s | will be very powerful there's no doubt |
| 14324s | about that but that should be on the top |
| 14325s | of Theory's mind I'm in a good position |
| 14327s | what can he do to come back anim ancers |
| 14329s | in a choke avoid that at all cost and |
| 14332s | theory is units are still so quick look |
| 14333s | at these fiends they're flying one more |
| 14335s | Ain gets picked off I actually think if |
| 14337s | Theory just continues doing what he's |
| 14339s | currently doing and he takes care of all |
| 14341s | the creep camps the moment they respawn |
| 14343s | he keeps on expanding I think you can |
| 14345s | spam those Shadow flies that you love |
| 14346s | zombie grub for days and even if you |
| 14348s | don't get the most efficient traits ever |
| 14350s | if you're two and a half or three times |
| 14352s | as rich as your opponent who really |
| 14353s | cares right spam Shadow Flyers all day |
| 14356s | every day and don't show up with 40 guns |
| 14358s | and then fight into dark property times |
| 14361s | and lose all of them just Spam some |
| 14362s | Shadow flies that actually seems like a |
| 14364s | very fun way to play out this specific |
| 14367s | map I think so and he's a wonderful |
| 14368s | position to do it as well I I really |
| 14370s | believe that is his next choice and then |
| 14373s | uh again perhaps a third base at some |
| 14375s | point Mana definitely going to try his |
| 14378s | best to recover what risks can he take |
| 14381s | to do so he could once again try and |
| 14383s | sneak a couple of prisms to the right |
| 14386s | side middle where it's you can pass |
| 14388s | through that guys it just is one of the |
| 14389s | unnatural ways to get across the map so |
| 14392s | we do have less scouting less Vision on |
| 14394s | that side often get next for a conclave |
| 14397s | or two so Theory can bump out more units |
| 14400s | if the time comes you can really see |
| 14401s | that the supply is telling the tail of |
| 14403s | the early game here Theory with a 33 |
| 14406s | Supply lead as he's getting the max G |
| 14408s | upgrades still but man is also Mis |
| 14410s | macroing again pretty hard saving for |
| 14413s | something a for something I I have no |
| 14416s | idea zie I mean it's just been a |
| 14418s | frustrating game because especially I |
| 14419s | think on this map it's really hard if |
| 14421s | you feel like your opponent has total |
| 14423s | map control he kind of stuck in your |
| 14425s | little corner on the top right side of |
| 14426s | the map the moment you move out those |
| 14429s | very quick fiends jump on top of your |
| 14430s | slow audence what can Mana really do at |
| 14433s | this point like it's it's very |
| 14434s | frustrating to play if you're Mana yeah |
| 14436s | you know people sometimes say speed is |
| 14438s | speed right you're just like you're a |
| 14440s | trigger happy you're fast like good for |
| 14442s | you right APM matters what really makes |
| 14444s | people fast a lot of the time is that |
| 14445s | they just know exactly what they want to |
| 14447s | do next they know where they want to go |
| 14449s | to in an RTS and so a lot of pro Gamers |
| 14451s | will be able to do that even in chaotic |
| 14453s | games but even they sometimes get such a |
| 14455s | chaotic game such a bad start to a game |
| 14457s | that you start to see those little mini |
| 14459s | calculations that they have to do that |
| 14461s | in a pleasant game they wouldn't have to |
| 14463s | so they do end up making more macro |
| 14465s | mistakes I guess mana's only real plan |
| 14468s | is indeed trying to take control of |
| 14470s | those lumite mines in the center lot of |
| 14473s | static defenses that's it's really his |
| 14474s | only game plan right cuz he can't really |
| 14477s | move out anymore to the top left you're |
| 14478s | just going to get swarmed we've got an |
| 14481s | archangel okay so he's going to go for |
| 14484s | the the slam is what I'm going to call |
| 14486s | it through the middle of the map I think |
| 14487s | he successfully hit it from that fiend |
| 14489s | that was kind of doing a scout the fiend |
| 14491s | did see of course the prisms there and |
| 14493s | it just you know I said it's a risky |
| 14495s | could take and it's it's really very |
| 14497s | risky because there is no way that |
| 14499s | theory wouldn't guess something is over |
| 14501s | there and there's no way he wouldn't |
| 14503s | make Shadow Flyers to kill all those |
| 14504s | bases off the right side so he can this |
| 14507s | is fun uh so he can Mana can get some |
| 14510s | mining off the right side for a little |
| 14512s | while but then he really has to think |
| 14514s | about how much of the Shadow flyer is |
| 14516s | going to appear probably not even |
| 14517s | planning on having that for very long |
| 14520s | yep the is obviously just consuming the |
| 14522s | bottom left side of the map really still |
| 14524s | taking out important and Powerful creeps |
| 14527s | as well clever ways to get some belly |
| 14529s | out of what on these towers this really |
| 14531s | does remind me of those work for three |
| 14532s | days where people more and more |
| 14535s | efficient ways of creeping without |
| 14536s | really taking any damage as the tank |
| 14539s | does get taken out but the Army is here |
| 14541s | these guns are quick and going to get on |
| 14542s | top of a couple of these arents |
| 14544s | immediately the archangels are going to |
| 14546s | be forced to fight they fly in but I |
| 14549s | don't know if they can really get out |
| 14550s | save yeah they do take a little bit to |
| 14552s | get back up in the air which I think is |
| 14554s | fair but that means that they can in |
| 14556s | larger fights get sniped when they do |
| 14559s | that so yeah they might hit but then |
| 14560s | they immediately die after so you do |
| 14562s | have to be careful but we're already at |
| 14563s | two our Gam Angels again they could go |
| 14565s | harassed and hopefully live and come |
| 14566s | back and if you get to like six that is |
| 14569s | a lot of explosions they will be kind of |
| 14570s | intimidating to the gaun army that |
| 14573s | theory has it'd be very cool if Theory |
| 14575s | could maybe go for some drop Ling |
| 14576s | because we already have the shadow |
| 14577s | Flyers but it could maybe go for I |
| 14579s | believe it's called hard Brer but I'm |
| 14580s | not totally certain and load up a bunch |
| 14582s | of guns drop those into the main base of |
| 14584s | Mana cuz mana's probably going to have a |
| 14586s | lot of Defense over here in the center |
| 14588s | of the map near those bases that he |
| 14590s | really wants to |
| 14591s | get I think some drop play would be very |
| 14594s | on the side of theory you're absolutely |
| 14596s | right that is a very good point and kind |
| 14597s | of funny that we forgot that that was a |
| 14598s | thing because that was dominating some |
| 14600s | of the metas previously The Harbinger |
| 14603s | grops were um kind of crazy but yeah we |
| 14604s | could see that because he might also |
| 14606s | control the skies I don't know how that |
| 14608s | shadow flyer fight would have gone was |
| 14610s | going to tell you I meide archangels do |
| 14612s | they they don't shoot near right so |
| 14613s | they'd have to land I guess that would |
| 14615s | be very odd and then if they land I |
| 14617s | guess they would be free to go um so |
| 14619s | that's that's fair enough it just it I |
| 14620s | think they both looked at it and were |
| 14622s | like no thank you and just ran away |
| 14624s | theory is sitting on a lot of etherum by |
| 14626s | the way I'm wondering what he could |
| 14628s | potentially spend it on or if that is |
| 14631s | going to be something that he's going to |
| 14632s | have a lot of period and it's going to |
| 14634s | be a lot easier for him to spend his |
| 14639s | luminite I actually really love that I'm |
| 14641s | I'm not going to lie only four Shadow |
| 14643s | Flyers yeah well collection arrays have |
| 14645s | proven to be very fragile if you didn't |
| 14647s | know that now I think this tournament |
| 14649s | has showed you it and Shadow Flyers |
| 14651s | they're not just good for sniping |
| 14652s | collection arrays if mon plan was to |
| 14654s | Turtle behind static defense Shadow fers |
| 14657s | easy yeah you can't have Towers |
| 14659s | everywhere you can have a lot of towers |
| 14660s | in the center that are going to help you |
| 14662s | out against fiends and bruts and guns |
| 14664s | and maybe even a magm medon or two but |
| 14666s | you're not going to have enough Towers |
| 14668s | to protect yourself from every single |
| 14669s | angle that these shadow Flyers can fly |
| 14671s | in from now see the supplies are getting |
| 14674s | a little bit closer as I do kind of |
| 14676s | wonder what is like the ultimate game |
| 14678s | plan for theory in the end was just |
| 14680s | blowing up a collection array over and |
| 14682s | over again without really getting |
| 14684s | anything else done I don't know if |
| 14685s | that's really viable in the Long Haul |
| 14688s | maybe it is like maybe he will just keep |
| 14689s | doing this for the upcoming 20 minutes |
| 14691s | and then like yeah eventually Mana can |
| 14694s | no longer take a base cuz he keeps on |
| 14696s | losing all of his collection rays and |
| 14697s | the man is just broke I do feel that |
| 14699s | Mana is starting to create a terrifying |
| 14702s | Army that is going to be damn difficult |
| 14703s | for the to deal |
| 14705s | with I am not sure I'm just going to be |
| 14709s | real with you guys five archangels with |
| 14712s | the Avatar activated it looks strong |
| 14714s | they do look strong but that's like not |
| 14716s | an army those are two magmod so far here |
| 14718s | comes the rest of the army and I guess |
| 14720s | he was hoping that they could stay |
| 14721s | around even longer and get kind of |
| 14723s | baited here gon are going to be able to |
| 14724s | attack them but you can see the damage |
| 14726s | is not particularly impressive G are |
| 14728s | quick though yeah yeah yeah so they get |
| 14730s | many attacks and then I don't know if |
| 14731s | these archangels can heal up before |
| 14732s | they're forced back into the action and |
| 14734s | they're not good unless they're just |
| 14735s | right there in the middle of the pack so |
| 14737s | you can't be going in there with half |
| 14739s | dead archangels but I think as long as |
| 14741s | this kind of stuff is happening where |
| 14742s | we're not even really trading up is like |
| 14744s | all right I attack you you defend if |
| 14747s | Mana can just start getting something |
| 14748s | going for himself on his side of the map |
| 14750s | and get his hands on these two luminite |
| 14752s | mines Hana is OB going to feel a little |
| 14754s | bit better about it as he does lose one |
| 14756s | of the morph course there more Shadow |
| 14757s | Flyers coming in and this is obviously |
| 14759s | the game plan right now of theory that's |
| 14761s | working out pretty well but Mana will |
| 14763s | probably just look for time because we |
| 14764s | can't forget how poor the early game was |
| 14766s | for Mana like this game felt pretty much |
| 14768s | over and at this point it still feels |
| 14770s | very annoying and very uncomfortable for |
| 14772s | Mana but he's probably starting to dream |
| 14774s | again a little bit maybe yeah I think |
| 14777s | you're right you know you could deserve |
| 14778s | you uh you deserve a dream guys go ahead |
| 14781s | but uh |
| 14782s | Mana he's actually also coming into a |
| 14785s | place where I think a lot of celestials |
| 14786s | are having trouble now I'm not I'm going |
| 14788s | to say it I'm not an expert on that |
| 14789s | department but it does seem to be the |
| 14791s | trend a lot of celestials they get to |
| 14793s | the Supreme late game or theory is more |
| 14795s | there but you know what I mean they get |
| 14796s | to this stage and they struggle even |
| 14798s | with a better start even with a bigger |
| 14800s | Army so that's why I'm like I understand |
| 14803s | that there's hope but what would this |
| 14805s | actually look like when they two when |
| 14807s | the two Collide so far we've been kind |
| 14808s | of dodging a real battle yep and there |
| 14811s | really is not a lot of luminite income |
| 14812s | at this point for Mana so maybe that |
| 14814s | hope is starting to fade very quickly I |
| 14816s | mean I feel like Mana is nowhere near |
| 14818s | his dream situation his dream Army he's |
| 14820s | got a couple of Archangels that's very |
| 14823s | cool but that's the equ having like five |
| 14825s | carriers and nothing else in a game of |
| 14827s | St like yeah they're really cool but you |
| 14830s | do need some support for them and Mana |
| 14832s | would obviously love es on the ground |
| 14834s | maybe a couple of frees rolling around |
| 14836s | and then a bunch of the enimes with dark |
| 14838s | prophecy later on but at this point it |
| 14841s | really does seem like theory is never |
| 14842s | ever ever going to let Mana get there |
| 14844s | for a split second it looked like he was |
| 14846s | giving Mana too much time then he |
| 14848s | started blowing up every single |
| 14849s | collection array yeah am Manas is kind |
| 14851s | of stuck where like this was a letter |
| 14854s | game he'd probably be out of here |
| 14855s | immediately but the man came all the way |
| 14857s | here to Riot in Saudi Arabia he does not |
| 14859s | want to leave early he's obviously |
| 14860s | hoping that maybe the takes a bad fight |
| 14863s | in range of static defenses but at this |
| 14865s | point theory is doing a perfect job in |
| 14868s | not letting Mana grow any bigger and he |
| 14870s | also grew himself a little bit you know |
| 14872s | that third base was not as fast as I was |
| 14873s | anticipating but he eventually got that |
| 14875s | saturated and now he has a fourth we |
| 14877s | have ourselves a battle here the Arcane |
| 14878s | was going to slam on down but that's not |
| 14879s | the entire Army the Army was waiting |
| 14881s | over to the right side we also got |
| 14883s | static defense helping out and Theory I |
| 14886s | think is going to be happy with this |
| 14887s | fight the archangels are not doing |
| 14889s | enough magmod on the top side taking out |
| 14891s | the Argin so we got the creep involved |
| 14893s | this well two archangels will escape no |
| 14896s | one Archangel will escape and maybe make |
| 14898s | that zero as he Taps out that was it |
| 14902s | Mana actually not able to do it again |
| 14905s | the second time around versus Theory |
| 14907s | Theory adapted got his preferred game on |
| 14910s | jogged mul and was able to advance |
| 14912s | forward our only infernal player of the |
| 14914s | tournament makes it to the final against |
| 14917s | all the celestial players that we had |
| 14919s | showing up over here no could have |
| 14921s | thought that after the first three games |
| 14923s | especially with the way that this best |
| 14924s | of three started off it just felt once |
| 14926s | more like such a disaster where okay |
| 14928s | we've got a plan with the meat farm out |
| 14930s | there and a shroud Stone on top of the |
| 14931s | ramp this is cool right and Mana just |
| 14933s | blinks on top of the ramp after throws |
| 14935s | on his skin we're like oh no like this |
| 14937s | is the end and that kind of was the end |
| 14939s | but yeah Theory really turning it around |
| 14942s | Mana probably kicking himself a little |
| 14944s | bit for the way that he played it out |
| 14946s | but let's see what clar is and the boys |
| 14947s | of the desk have to say about that lower |
| 14949s | record |
| 14950s | final a great series an aftermath |
| 14953s | dominant |
| 14954s | here in Riad as now both of their |
| 14956s | players will make it through into that |
| 14957s | Grand Final we do get Inferno versus |
| 14960s | Celestial in that final and of course |
| 14963s | with Theory being Victorious over Mana |
| 14964s | that's a great comeback for him joining |
| 14966s | me tastosis to talk about this one uh |
| 14968s | down to start with you I mean those last |
| 14971s | two games fantastic stuff to be able to |
| 14973s | see these big long macro games coming |
| 14975s | out from infernal to get to that late |
| 14977s | game dude I love to see it if you're not |
| 14979s | completely destroying him early on with |
| 14981s | those vectors he's going to take you |
| 14983s | down that was beautifully played I love |
| 14985s | like I was standing here with you guys |
| 14986s | and watching was like so you can just |
| 14988s | turtle and use all your |
| 14991s | etherum to kill their buildings Shadow |
| 14994s | flers are good I might have to leave |
| 14995s | Vanguard like I think that the next hero |
| 14999s | for infernals should be Theory there you |
| 15002s | go all right okay let's get him in Co-op |
| 15004s | I I got to say uh really cool to see |
| 15006s | there is sort of a solution there you |
| 15008s | got to lean into the turtling play lean |
| 15010s | into defending it's not about trying to |
| 15012s | get into a fight in the middle of the |
| 15014s | map it's not about trying to rush them |
| 15015s | and stop them before they start but |
| 15017s | instead going into late game going into |
| 15019s | macro play and if you can defend I mean |
| 15021s | you were joking about it but it's true |
| 15024s | you stay back and then suddenly the late |
| 15026s | game is yours you have a solution you |
| 15027s | can punish um their array collectors you |
| 15030s | can get in there and deny Tech uh you |
| 15032s | can hit the morph cores when they try to |
| 15033s | reclaim um the luminite so it's a really |
| 15036s | punishing way to play the lake game well |
| 15038s | especially on Dragon mul the only way to |
| 15040s | your opponent via any path is a very TI |
| 15044s | choke area and if your opponent already |
| 15045s | has a concave in a certain area set up |
| 15047s | how are you going to get to the other |
| 15048s | side I saw obviously you see at the very |
| 15050s | end that his solution to it was maybe |
| 15053s | archangels but even those weren't able |
| 15055s | to pack enough punch here to take down |
| 15056s | all of this Army osis I I like the idea |
| 15059s | the archangels because you can fly |
| 15061s | around and it's jaged ma but at the end |
| 15063s | of the day like animancer is pretty cool |
| 15065s | like know I see these groups of gun |
| 15067s | there I'm like you know what would beat |
| 15069s | that anim answers uh but yeah I mean |
| 15073s | there's still so much to be discovered |
| 15075s | we're in literally day one of storm Mana |
| 15077s | didn't do himself any favors though I |
| 15079s | would say in the opening of dragon Mall |
| 15080s | here Nick when you look at kind of the |
| 15082s | vectors did not pack the same punch and |
| 15085s | I think there was a lot of |
| 15086s | overextensions from Mana in some of |
| 15088s | those moments where he loses those |
| 15089s | vectors and then all of his pressure is |
| 15090s | gone yeah he he overextended by quite a |
| 15093s | bit got punished and and once you uh |
| 15095s | lose a couple of those units when you're |
| 15097s | being aggro the game completely frees up |
| 15099s | for the defender let's take a look at |
| 15101s | the replays then coming in from this |
| 15102s | series we start think things off |
| 15104s | technically with Mana going one up |
| 15106s | playing what was kind of what we |
| 15108s | expected from him but on a map where |
| 15110s | kind of this is more able here Dan it's |
| 15114s | not too much of a surprise then going |
| 15115s | into the next two there was a bit more |
| 15117s | wiggle room for uh theory on Lost hope |
| 15120s | and the well the early game it's like |
| 15123s | your gauns aren't that strong and brutes |
| 15126s | are like comically slow so you just |
| 15128s | can't really connect with the vectors |
| 15130s | but you give them a big map and suddenly |
| 15132s | theories like creeping everything |
| 15134s | getting some great control expanding all |
| 15136s | over the place getting his upgrades and |
| 15138s | it just looks fantastic like I'm really |
| 15141s | liking theories play on these bigger |
| 15142s | Maps boom and we're seeing the shadow |
| 15144s | flares this is an upgrade that you can |
| 15146s | get for them of course which is that |
| 15147s | dive bomb which allows them to be able |
| 15149s | to do so much damage to those buildings |
| 15151s | what's interesting is is that in theory |
| 15153s | no pun intended one of the better |
| 15155s | solutions would go away one of the |
| 15158s | better solutions would technically be to |
| 15159s | lift off your collection array cuz they |
| 15161s | do less damage to it when it's flying so |
| 15163s | weird dynamic this was I think a really |
| 15165s | good point by you actually yeah in the |
| 15168s | concept of just lifting it off to tank |
| 15170s | damage because it's stronger there and |
| 15171s | then land again kind of makes a funny |
| 15173s | micro mechanic here yeah I actually kind |
| 15175s | of abandoned this V5 rocket launcher but |
| 15178s | it didn't really matter theory was fully |
| 15180s | in control of this game by this time I |
| 15181s | want to say because again it felt like M |
| 15183s | had any no breathing room here Dan yeah |
| 15187s | yeah like there was just so much |
| 15188s | pressure on him in theory once he took |
| 15189s | control of everything like he took just |
| 15191s | about every single camp on the map |
| 15194s | yeah even later got one of thees and |
| 15196s | then he's just inol at that point and |
| 15200s | flying those Shadow fers around and just |
| 15202s | destroying his economy in the late game |
| 15204s | if Theory can make it to the late game |
| 15206s | against parting I don't know what paring |
| 15207s | is going to do yeah best of five on the |
| 15209s | way and if I'm passing I'm looking at |
| 15211s | this and saying to myself well okay my |
| 15213s | vetos should be something like lost hope |
| 15215s | Jagged Mo because it it gives infernals |
| 15218s | some breathing room here tasteless to |
| 15221s | just be able to play a bit of a longer |
| 15222s | game where Celestial should surely be |
| 15224s | wanting to like bring the fight fast it |
| 15226s | seems like it it seems like Celestial |
| 15228s | wants to try to get in there and rush |
| 15229s | and do whatever damage they can ideally |
| 15231s | and the game and maybe the infernals |
| 15232s | hang on uh and hang back and and Tack |
| 15235s | into something stronger later on but |
| 15236s | let's keep in mind these guys are |
| 15237s | teammates they know each other really |
| 15239s | well so there's going to be a lot of |
| 15240s | Mind Games here uh we don't even know |
| 15242s | about yeah this is slowly between these |
| 15244s | two becoming L Classico for stormgate |
| 15246s | even though we're in day one effectively |
| 15249s | Early Access for free to play Let's Take |
| 15251s | a look at that bracket here as now we |
| 15253s | have two aftermath players making it |
| 15255s | into the Grand Final they are going to |
| 15257s | be very happy as an organization parting |
| 15259s | playing celestials and the playing the |
| 15261s | infernals towards the end I know that |
| 15263s | you guys are going to be commentating |
| 15264s | this last one you excited for an |
| 15266s | infernal versus Celestial Dan this is |
| 15268s | what I was hoping for the entire time |
| 15270s | and you know I think parting tends more |
| 15272s | towards aggression than mana and Max |
| 15274s | said probably a little bit more |
| 15276s | aggression than that so he's kind of in |
| 15277s | between the two and Theory's beaten both |
| 15279s | of them so can he kind of zoom in on the |
| 15282s | way parting is going to play here and |
| 15284s | counter that and be an infernal champion |
| 15286s | on day one yeah precisely I mean to be |
| 15288s | honest through past phases of the game's |
| 15291s | history throughout the development |
| 15292s | stages Etc where we got to play like |
| 15294s | Clos beta phases tasteless parting |
| 15297s | seemed like this Untouchable God in the |
| 15299s | game regardless of what race he played |
| 15302s | but now here and there there are chinks |
| 15304s | in the armor there is little |
| 15305s | opportunities for people to be able to |
| 15306s | wound this man yeah right he was 100% |
| 15309s | ahead of everybody else he seemed to be |
| 15311s | kind of leading the front on how the |
| 15312s | game was under stood which is kind of a |
| 15314s | an odd position to be in cuz it wasn't |
| 15316s | just with one race it was with all of |
| 15318s | them right he was pretty much mapping |
| 15321s | everything out and people are kind of |
| 15322s | copying him and emulating him and I'm |
| 15324s | I'm sure that will change now that the |
| 15325s | game is out and everybody can play and |
| 15327s | we're going to have more um you know |
| 15329s | more brains bashing into each other |
| 15331s | trying to figure out what are the best |
| 15332s | strategies but if anybody knows him it's |
| 15334s | going to be Theory so again I think you |
| 15337s | know even though he will probably |
| 15338s | probably be rushing a lot probably be uh |
| 15341s | being really aggressive um Theory has |
| 15343s | proven to have some great defense and |
| 15345s | again he knows this guy really really |
| 15346s | well that is the toughest thing though |
| 15348s | for them as much as yes they know each |
| 15349s | other very well parting has had an |
| 15351s | opportunity to watch effectively all of |
| 15354s | the's infernal versus Celestial so he's |
| 15357s | a smart man he could potentially figure |
| 15359s | this out of course of course I mean you |
| 15361s | can't ever doubt parting in what he's up |
| 15363s | to like this guy has countless |
| 15364s | tournament wins in countless different |
| 15366s | games uh you know obviously he's still |
| 15368s | the favorite here but theory is that |
| 15371s | Underdog Story that that we're kind of |
| 15372s | rooting for yeah definitely definitely |
| 15374s | any potential predictions before you go |
| 15376s | on him um I think my my heart says |
| 15379s | Theory my my mind says my head says |
| 15382s | partying here but uh yeah I would love |
| 15384s | to have Theory win this that's that |
| 15386s | would be so cool considering it was a |
| 15387s | entirely Celestial uh tournament with |
| 15389s | the exception of him yeah it does feel |
| 15391s | like he kind of came in as the undog |
| 15393s | even though we know that theory is |
| 15395s | extremely good when it comes to the game |
| 15396s | as a whole infernal as a whole just |
| 15398s | everyone kind of expected maybe a |
| 15400s | Celestial win but for an infernal to win |
| 15402s | it down that would be that that would be |
| 15404s | nice I think if the games go long then |
| 15406s | theur starts to gain maybe a little bit |
| 15408s | of an edge with his shadow flyer |
| 15409s | strategy right like he's flying around |
| 15411s | and destroying all of parting economy |
| 15412s | there's not a lot parting can do there |
| 15414s | so I'm hoping that on some of these |
| 15416s | bigger Maps parting doesn't get a big |
| 15418s | leg up early and we can see like some |
| 15420s | really big macro games I'm trying to |
| 15421s | even theorize how you deal with the |
| 15423s | shadfly strategy into the mid and light |
| 15425s | game and I'm thinking okay well what if |
| 15427s | you went sides or something like that |
| 15428s | but the shadow fliers just crash into |
| 15430s | those what what do you kind of get shot |
| 15433s | down very quickly either no like they |
| 15435s | kind of just get in there and get the |
| 15438s | job done so I I don't know I mean maybe |
| 15439s | we'll see in this game I I think I know |
| 15441s | the counter uh you go vectors early and |
| 15443s | get them into their base okay well so |
| 15446s | you don't let them get there nice nice I |
| 15448s | like that I like that a lot we're just |
| 15450s | waiting a few more moments before we |
| 15451s | actually go to a break and then of |
| 15452s | course get into that final here but I'm |
| 15453s | just getting word that we are ready for |
| 15455s | it so guys thank you very much for |
| 15456s | joining me stay tuned we are ready for |
| 15458s | our grand finals in just a moment a best |
| 15460s | of five aftermath versus aftermath |
| 15462s | parting going up against Theory |
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| 15494s | [Music] |
| 15613s | e |
| 15627s | [Music] |
| 15649s | [Music] |
| 15665s | [Music] |
| 15678s | all right let's get to it the Grand |
| 15680s | Final here as uh I'm maybe a little bit |
| 15682s | too excited cuz it is like day one we |
| 15684s | get to finally cover uh the new RTS in |
| 15686s | stormgate and we have got ourselves |
| 15688s | infernal versus Celestial for this Grand |
| 15690s | Final best of five do bear in mind |
| 15693s | joining me zg as well as Ry have been |
| 15694s | able to cast all of the games that have |
| 15696s | been going on so far and we don't have a |
| 15698s | Celestial versus Celestial mirror that's |
| 15700s | kind of a win in itself but hey the's |
| 15702s | been making him will look great CG he |
| 15704s | does make it look good when he gets to |
| 15705s | the prime position but the problem is |
| 15708s | that he has the same struggles as a lot |
| 15710s | of people when it comes to being |
| 15711s | harassed early on some struggles on |
| 15714s | particular Maps as well which now we're |
| 15716s | going to have more maps maybe more maps |
| 15718s | without the proper setup um yeah he's |
| 15720s | still in for a very uh problematic |
| 15723s | finals but it's going to be interesting |
| 15724s | they do practice with each other quite a |
| 15725s | bit apparently so I'm sure that they |
| 15727s | know each other's quirks and there's |
| 15729s | going to be some mind games and meta |
| 15731s | games going on yeah I was the ING with |
| 15733s | the boys R like which map as parting you |
| 15735s | would ban and I was saying like maybe |
| 15737s | you do take away lost hope or jaged more |
| 15739s | considering their big maps that gives |
| 15740s | the infernal an opportunity to |
| 15742s | potentially get further in what what do |
| 15743s | you think yeah I don't think it's just |
| 15745s | that the fact that the map is Big cuz |
| 15746s | maybe that could help the infernal |
| 15748s | player but I think the First Health Camp |
| 15749s | is incredibly useful cuz those vectors |
| 15752s | obviously they don't regen if they don't |
| 15753s | have a health camp but if you do have a |
| 15754s | couple of guns there and you one hexon |
| 15756s | you just get a couple shots off walk |
| 15758s | your units back I think the Health Camp |
| 15760s | really is the Ultimate key of just being |
| 15762s | completely fake |
| 15763s | uh safe against that stuff and |
| 15764s | completely fine I don't know I share the |
| 15766s | excitement it's so fun cuz you watch a |
| 15768s | couple of games and you do that thing |
| 15769s | that you really shouldn't do but like I |
| 15771s | think these Pro Gamers make mistakes |
| 15773s | like like I see some and obiously it's |
| 15776s | not that simple right because these guys |
| 15777s | have played so much already and they |
| 15779s | know what they're doing but it is really |
| 15780s | fun to just see these games evolve and |
| 15783s | see what they're coming up with and I'm |
| 15784s | incredibly excited for this best of |
| 15785s | fight yeah definitely definitely so uh |
| 15787s | before we actually do get to this Grand |
| 15788s | Final as well I do want to mention we |
| 15790s | actually have more tournaments on the |
| 15792s | way which is very important we'll talk |
| 15794s | about after the Grand Final but I'll |
| 15795s | also mention it now we have the take TV |
| 15797s | stormgate battle time which is happening |
| 15799s | on August the 24th and that's happening |
| 15801s | in the Experian Arena over in cologne as |
| 15804s | well so there are more tournaments on |
| 15806s | the way Mark that on your calendar if |
| 15807s | you're been enjoying these games so far |
| 15810s | but also there's other great Grassroots |
| 15812s | tournaments that are going on throughout |
| 15813s | the weeks as time goes on right okay it |
| 15815s | is time it's Grand finals time let's |
| 15817s | head over to the stage and Welcome to |
| 15819s | our two aftermath players it's parting |
| 15822s | going up against their |
| 15824s | [Music] |
| 15836s | [Music] |
| 15848s | the two aftermath players two names |
| 15850s | absolutely synonymous with RTS excellent |
| 15852s | when it comes to this fledgling RTS |
| 15854s | scene one of them will walk away as the |
| 15856s | champion time to head over to tastosis |
| 15858s | for the best of five I could not be more |
| 15861s | excited for this final artosis it is |
| 15863s | Theory versus parting throughout the uh |
| 15866s | history of stormgate starting with the |
| 15867s | closed beta up until now I've got |
| 15869s | obviously the game has just been |
| 15870s | released today um these were regarded as |
| 15873s | the two best players one from the East |
| 15875s | the other from the West now they are |
| 15877s | here in the first ever finals where they |
| 15879s | will fight against each other I know |
| 15882s | this is a perfect story and for Theory |
| 15883s | to have already gone through a couple |
| 15886s | Celestial players he's shown he knows |
| 15888s | how to play this matchup but can he do |
| 15890s | it against the best the question is |
| 15892s | going to be you know in a tournament |
| 15894s | like this where it has just been |
| 15896s | celestials that he's had to fight like |
| 15898s | you were saying maybe that's all that |
| 15899s | the only matchup he really has to have |
| 15901s | and he's already again like you said |
| 15903s | proven that we've got Theory down here |
| 15905s | in the bottom left in the top right is |
| 15906s | going to be parting all right uh excited |
| 15910s | to see what parting is going to do in |
| 15912s | many ways ways right like we've we just |
| 15914s | got done watching a bunch of theory |
| 15915s | games there against mana and we have |
| 15917s | some ideas about the types of ways he |
| 15919s | wants to play but is paring going to |
| 15922s | bring something special out is he going |
| 15924s | to say you know what I want to I want to |
| 15925s | go super aggressive here or is he going |
| 15928s | to try to maybe really build his economy |
| 15930s | so that he can take out theory in that |
| 15932s | later game that it seemed like Mana had |
| 15934s | so much trouble with on this map we have |
| 15937s | unsurprisingly parting going for a fast |
| 15940s | expand here we got the hexen roaming |
| 15942s | right now there is a lot of Labyrinthian |
| 15944s | paths on this map in the upper left uh |
| 15946s | and then as well as in the bottom right |
| 15948s | but the middle is generally pretty open |
| 15951s | um infernal seems to lend itself to a |
| 15954s | kind of macro development style |
| 15956s | especially against Celestial it doesn't |
| 15957s | really seem like there are um many or if |
| 15961s | even any uh kind of technical attacks |
| 15964s | where you can really kill the celestial |
| 15965s | so instead it's really kind of about |
| 15967s | balancing developing growing where I do |
| 15970s | think the celestial at least for now at |
| 15972s | least for this iteration of the game |
| 15974s | does have maybe a wider uh range of |
| 15976s | choices yeah I would definitely agree |
| 15979s | with you there now uh taking a look at |
| 15981s | the way that Fury is wanting to open |
| 15983s | this up I really do love to see it he's |
| 15985s | already got some gauns already got some |
| 15986s | brutes clearing that Health Camp very |
| 15989s | very quickly uh and you know this is |
| 15991s | something that we saw from him a little |
| 15993s | bit before as well right like if he can |
| 15995s | go around and start clearing these camps |
| 15997s | feels like Theory really gets into a |
| 15999s | position that he's comfortable in I do |
| 16002s | like this set set up over at the creep |
| 16004s | camp where they basically build right |
| 16005s | outside of that and even use the farm to |
| 16008s | and the Fel hog that comes out as |
| 16009s | something to tank a little bit of damage |
| 16011s | it's kind of a cool opening here uh and |
| 16013s | over here we see you know your starting |
| 16015s | structure uh the ark ship is going to be |
| 16017s | part of your creeping pattern as well |
| 16019s | here coming from the celestials yeah and |
| 16021s | you can see just how much these guys |
| 16023s | already have it mathed out you know |
| 16025s | everything is changing all the time |
| 16027s | right now as the game just came out but |
| 16028s | you can see it's like okay yes if I |
| 16030s | attack here with you know three argents |
| 16032s | in the morph core I'm just barely going |
| 16034s | to kill it off without losing the morph |
| 16035s | core and then I make my uh collection |
| 16037s | array right and it's just the exactitude |
| 16040s | that we're seeing on day one is very |
| 16042s | impressive yeah it's kind of crazy um |
| 16045s | you know Pros now are so good at you |
| 16047s | know developing openings that are so |
| 16049s | Technical and so perfected and we |
| 16051s | definitely are seeing that on both sides |
| 16053s | so in this game we have red um slowly |
| 16056s | moving from the top all the way down to |
| 16058s | the right side and expanding and taking |
| 16060s | out creep camps and getting control of |
| 16062s | the map happen the same is true for |
| 16063s | Theory only in the opposite direction we |
| 16065s | do have a little bit of skirmishes over |
| 16067s | here in the middle as we're going to |
| 16068s | have some guns come up here as well as |
| 16069s | some brutes and this is a pretty narrow |
| 16071s | area if he's got enough he can certainly |
| 16072s | trap these units over here now Theory |
| 16075s | coming up in battling right now I guess |
| 16077s | the argents are a little bit low on |
| 16078s | energy he brings some more gonon from |
| 16080s | the side with that hex and brings the |
| 16082s | skull out as well the brut's actually |
| 16083s | doing a pretty good job and I mean he's |
| 16086s | also kind of interfering while that camp |
| 16088s | was being cleared really decisive play |
| 16091s | here from Theory it seems almost like |
| 16093s | theory is rushing the position that |
| 16096s | parting was hoping to set up his own |
| 16097s | Rush there now the argents look strong |
| 16099s | but their energy slowly going down which |
| 16102s | means if they can just get a little bit |
| 16104s | more damage in over here I think Theory |
| 16106s | could probably flatten this position |
| 16108s | yeah it looks like he does have to back |
| 16110s | up a little bit at the moment turns |
| 16111s | around and starts to re-engage paring |
| 16114s | continuing to build over in this |
| 16116s | location does not want to lose it and |
| 16119s | Theory will have to back up at the |
| 16121s | beginning of that I felt like it was |
| 16123s | going pretty well for Theory but by the |
| 16124s | end it really I I question whether that |
| 16128s | was valuable for him it doesn't feel |
| 16131s | like that actually put any Dent into the |
| 16134s | play of parting it's funny because it |
| 16135s | was such a narrow boxy area but it seems |
| 16138s | like parting was able to basically run |
| 16139s | around the circular area with the trees |
| 16141s | and stay alive and now the counter push |
| 16142s | is going to come in here and parting has |
| 16144s | a lot of momentum no static defense up |
| 16147s | here right now the gauns being targeted |
| 16149s | and then taken down as the arit are |
| 16151s | going to try to dive in oh man just too |
| 16153s | much damage from this Mass Argent right |
| 16155s | now and parting doing a fantastic job |
| 16158s | punishing Theory GG is called already |
| 16161s | yeah that was that was a pretty fast one |
| 16163s | right there you know I think that theory |
| 16166s | it it did look like he was doing a good |
| 16168s | job but he lost a few too many units |
| 16170s | didn't really break the argents there in |
| 16172s | that more forward position and parting |
| 16174s | just hits with an instant Counterattack |
| 16177s | unable to stop it there yeah you can see |
| 16179s | they definitely uh had it a very good |
| 16183s | idea of what each other were doing and |
| 16184s | it came down to um Harding setting up |
| 16187s | down at the bottom center and getting |
| 16189s | ready to try to um launch an attack from |
| 16192s | that position and Theory basically |
| 16193s | trying to kill that strategy in its crib |
| 16196s | so to speak yeah well you can't blame |
| 16198s | him for going over there and and trying |
| 16200s | to take the initiative away from parting |
| 16202s | but did not end up working out maybe he |
| 16204s | should have either you know thought of a |
| 16205s | Counterattack or maybe started to get |
| 16208s | some defenses up at home but he'll take |
| 16210s | that all into consideration for our next |
| 16212s | map and you know I'm I'm still kind of |
| 16215s | holding out hope here I think that |
| 16216s | theory has potential to get onto one of |
| 16219s | these bigger Maps get his game plan |
| 16221s | really rolling and and be able to take |
| 16223s | games off parting yeah you know if he |
| 16226s | could rewind that game back I would |
| 16229s | imagine he would have just not tried to |
| 16231s | apply pressure into that area maybe |
| 16233s | expand further into the north set up |
| 16236s | some more static defense to absorb the |
| 16238s | damage that would have been coming from |
| 16240s | parting but there are really two ways to |
| 16242s | to play that position and Theory went |
| 16244s | for a very aggressive one where he could |
| 16246s | pounce on that you got to remember that |
| 16247s | the celestials uh they can attack from a |
| 16250s | lot of different positions on the map |
| 16251s | but that means their infrastructure is |
| 16253s | also kind of hanging out there so if |
| 16255s | you're able to punish any advances |
| 16257s | they're making on the map like that |
| 16258s | that's a great way to kind of scoop up a |
| 16260s | lead and carry the game out from there |
| 16263s | yeah well we'll see how uh Theory tries |
| 16265s | to change his game plan here going |
| 16267s | forward is parting going to continue for |
| 16269s | these quick kind of like timing attacks |
| 16271s | very urgent focused uh it seems to be |
| 16274s | that he's just very good at that type of |
| 16276s | play but I think you're going to need a |
| 16278s | little bit more uh than just that here |
| 16281s | against |
| 16282s | Theory okay we're going to go into game |
| 16285s | two now it's Theory down here in the |
| 16287s | bottom left and in the top right and the |
| 16289s | red is going to be parting uh this map |
| 16291s | is made for some interesting games there |
| 16294s | are two entrances into your main and |
| 16297s | they're on opposite sides of your base |
| 16299s | there's also two entrances to your |
| 16301s | natural expansion so it it's just sort |
| 16303s | of a map where you're never really |
| 16305s | feeling that safe you can't really seal |
| 16307s | yourself off like you would on a lot of |
| 16309s | other Maps or in a lot of other RTS |
| 16311s | games um which tends to reward |
| 16314s | aggression at the same time they have |
| 16316s | this double luminite expansion at the |
| 16318s | natural yeah uh or I I guess we should |
| 16320s | say second base for beginners of RTS um |
| 16323s | and so there's a real incentive to go |
| 16325s | out and try to expand but also a high |
| 16327s | risk that you're not able to manage |
| 16329s | defending that location as well as your |
| 16330s | main it's a very good point we're going |
| 16332s | to see uh if he's trying to expand now |
| 16335s | or are we going to just have some |
| 16336s | pressure across the map right so already |
| 16339s | a power bank going down at that double |
| 16341s | luminite mine here for parting and yeah |
| 16344s | Meat Farm going up looks like Theory |
| 16347s | wants to take over this Speed camp |
| 16348s | pretty quickly now I think the reason |
| 16350s | why they put a Speed camp here is to |
| 16352s | incentivize people to try to come out |
| 16353s | and attack on the map seems to be a kind |
| 16355s | of experimental feature here it also you |
| 16358s | know you take out your opponent's Speed |
| 16360s | camp and suddenly you can launch an |
| 16361s | attack onto them very quickly speed |
| 16363s | probably one of the best Buffs or boosts |
| 16365s | or upgrades you can get in an RTS game |
| 16368s | oh yeah yeah well it it gets almost |
| 16370s | comical sometimes with just how uh how |
| 16372s | quick some of the units get put some |
| 16374s | vectors in that oh man now brings up a |
| 16376s | couple gauns the meat farm finishes up |
| 16378s | so the fhog is actually taking a ton of |
| 16380s | damage here for Theory does take a |
| 16382s | little bit of damage from these shadow |
| 16384s | Mastiffs uh but of course theory knows |
| 16386s | exactly how to clean these camps up very |
| 16389s | efficiently so he's going to get that |
| 16391s | speed buff out here |
| 16392s | this position over here um is one that |
| 16396s | looks like it's going to be set up for |
| 16398s | an aggressive play here yeah it does you |
| 16400s | could basically kind of make a pipeline |
| 16403s | there of units that can then push out on |
| 16405s | the map um so I think we're going to see |
| 16407s | parting set up to be aggressive he could |
| 16409s | just be putting that out there to try to |
| 16411s | I guess have a um a position to control |
| 16414s | the center of the map but I'm guessing |
| 16415s | it's a rush you know it whether it's a |
| 16418s | rush or it's some sort of pressure type |
| 16420s | of play I I just like position in |
| 16422s | general right the argents having their |
| 16424s | range having their high damage uh I feel |
| 16427s | like they are very smart to go out there |
| 16429s | and put some pressure on you know the |
| 16432s | early brutes and everything it's hard |
| 16434s | for Theory to actually do a full engage |
| 16436s | until a little bit later |
| 16439s | on so that third base third resource |
| 16443s | Gathering location I should say is up |
| 16445s | and running for now neither player is |
| 16447s | really engaging with the other instead |
| 16449s | it's going to be more about creeping |
| 16451s | more about grow more about attacking and |
| 16454s | um I don't know when exactly we're going |
| 16456s | to see that attack on either side yeah |
| 16458s | yeah I am hoping that we see Theory |
| 16460s | start to uh really get some additional |
| 16462s | bases down here pretty quickly because |
| 16464s | it feels like parting is getting his |
| 16465s | economy into a very healthy location and |
| 16468s | theory is definitely doing a great job |
| 16469s | clearing camps but the thing is parting |
| 16471s | is going to catch up even in that regard |
| 16473s | pretty soon it seems like so Theory |
| 16476s | basically creeping and doing all this |
| 16477s | damage he's going to try to get as many |
| 16479s | resources from the creep camps again |
| 16481s | that's another way to up on the map um |
| 16484s | but I think he's going to have to try to |
| 16486s | make something happen because with |
| 16487s | parting both rushing and having such a |
| 16489s | rich um set of bases he's going to be |
| 16491s | very very |
| 16493s | healthy right now uh Theory once again |
| 16495s | going after another Camp here and will |
| 16497s | be able to clear that very quickly of |
| 16498s | course but paring is coming in for |
| 16500s | pressure now right like he's gone ahead |
| 16503s | and taken three luminite mines okay he |
| 16505s | actually oh unlucky here for the he gets |
| 16508s | found out exactly where he's trying to |
| 16510s | expand to does cancel and bring the Imp |
| 16511s | off to the side at least he knows this |
| 16513s | arm's down here and we might actually |
| 16515s | see a very strong flank from |
| 16517s | Theory now Theory uh you know a lot of |
| 16520s | his units are a little bit sluggish so |
| 16521s | he has to make sure that he this works |
| 16523s | he plants down some shroud here to get a |
| 16525s | little bit of an extra Health buff yeah |
| 16528s | and look at this just very well microed |
| 16530s | there from parting he just has way too |
| 16531s | much it really does feel like Theory's |
| 16534s | already on his back foot here parting is |
| 16537s | keeping that pressure on Theory having a |
| 16539s | hard time getting a base down well |
| 16542s | parting I mean three luminite mines he |
| 16544s | has to be feeling very good about his |
| 16546s | position he's not mining any ethereum |
| 16548s | and that's by Design this is going to be |
| 16550s | a very powerful push he's coming out |
| 16552s | here with but some of these fiends are |
| 16553s | going to be able to get in front of |
| 16555s | these um units here I can he actually |
| 16557s | block this off from running your way |
| 16559s | just barely not yeah and look at this |
| 16561s | brings them back to get charged up as |
| 16564s | well so he can have those additional |
| 16566s | damaged |
| 16567s | attacks just a lot of forward pressure |
| 16570s | coming out of parting right now you know |
| 16572s | we're seeing this this play from Theory |
| 16574s | where he's really focusing on creeping |
| 16576s | which does seem really strong right now |
| 16578s | but paring is taking advantage of that |
| 16580s | by mass expanding then taking all the |
| 16583s | creeps on his side of the map yeah this |
| 16585s | meat farm is going to be taken out that |
| 16587s | will actually Supply block um Theory |
| 16590s | here if he does lose that and partin's |
| 16592s | not finished he's setting up more |
| 16593s | infrastructure to try to give him more |
| 16595s | momentum as he continues on here with |
| 16596s | this push we've got a brute and a couple |
| 16598s | gauns coming down here from the bottom |
| 16599s | that's going to force paring to back up |
| 16601s | a little bit |
| 16603s | yeah it looks like this is going pretty |
| 16605s | poorly right now but you know what he |
| 16606s | does throw down the Shroud he's going to |
| 16608s | go ahead and start picking off some of |
| 16609s | these okay we have fiends multiplying a |
| 16612s | little bit I do think that parting still |
| 16614s | has too many to fully break through but |
| 16617s | the is going for it he's diving on these |
| 16620s | argents yeah Theory's going to try to |
| 16623s | push up a little bit further here you |
| 16624s | know these fiends if they can get to the |
| 16626s | other side of these units trying to run |
| 16628s | away they're great for blocking the |
| 16630s | gauns as well continuing to do more more |
| 16632s | and more damage here but it seems like |
| 16634s | parting is probably backed up far enough |
| 16636s | and that means theory is going to be on |
| 16637s | the run now remember some of the |
| 16639s | infernal units early on are not that |
| 16641s | fast they're not great at retreating |
| 16643s | it's very true uh you know the argents |
| 16645s | at the beginning not too fast themselves |
| 16648s | but uh Theory does turn to fight there |
| 16650s | for a moment that brute going to be |
| 16651s | cleaned up very quickly Theory still |
| 16653s | trying to get a little bit of damage |
| 16654s | done but his gaun force is so small |
| 16657s | compared to this Argent |
| 16659s | Army so he continues to run back you can |
| 16662s | see parin is doubling down on the |
| 16664s | pressure he's continuing to warp in more |
| 16666s | over here um we got the push getting |
| 16669s | closer and closer here to a position |
| 16672s | where you know Theory's not going to |
| 16674s | have that much more control of the map |
| 16676s | if parting can push down a little bit |
| 16677s | further is he going to attack the me |
| 16679s | Farm it looks like he is I thought he |
| 16680s | might try to wrap around here and maybe |
| 16682s | hit the main mhm well it looks like he |
| 16684s | just wants to engage the Army itself why |
| 16686s | not right like if you have the bigger |
| 16688s | Army and you can kill your opponent's |
| 16689s | Army there's really not going to be any |
| 16691s | coming back from that that's it g g yeah |
| 16694s | very quick 20 so far it's not every game |
| 16697s | in stormgate where you just see the two |
| 16699s | armies hit each other over and over and |
| 16701s | over again until one is no more but in |
| 16704s | that game that's what it boiled down to |
| 16706s | it was parting setting up I think |
| 16707s | frankly a better early game opening um |
| 16710s | prepping for a push and trying to come |
| 16713s | in there and close the game out Theory |
| 16714s | went for a creeping route trying to |
| 16717s | develop and take control of the map and |
| 16719s | Harding just had a little bit more |
| 16720s | muscle and all paring had to do is keep |
| 16723s | fighting Theory's uh main composition |
| 16725s | over and over and against eventually it |
| 16727s | sort of melted down it whittel down to |
| 16729s | nothing yeah th this heavy creep opening |
| 16733s | I don't think that theory can continue |
| 16735s | that I think we're going to have to see |
| 16736s | him switch it up we're going to have to |
| 16738s | see maybe a faster Shrine maybe build |
| 16740s | his economy a little bit and and play it |
| 16742s | out in that type of way because the way |
| 16745s | that parting is just like okay instantly |
| 16747s | expand okay get a few argents Out start |
| 16749s | doing some camps expand again and now a |
| 16752s | lot of argents it's just Theory doesn't |
| 16754s | have the economy to make enough units to |
| 16756s | counter that that's right I think some |
| 16758s | of that comes down to that map and the |
| 16760s | strange geography of it the fact that I |
| 16763s | think infernal is a race that needs to |
| 16765s | expand it has to have a certain amount |
| 16767s | of um you know development and has to |
| 16769s | have enough money that it's soaking in |
| 16772s | and um I think Theory didn't have a lot |
| 16774s | of options other than to try a creeping |
| 16777s | path but we all know that right now |
| 16778s | celestials are just they're just very |
| 16780s | strong with these rushes that look |
| 16782s | exactly like that where they hit you |
| 16784s | they get more energy they run back away |
| 16786s | when the fight's uncomfortable and it's |
| 16788s | kind of this tug of war you see in the |
| 16789s | middle of the map where eventually the |
| 16791s | celestial wins let's see what happens |
| 16793s | now as we go into game three right now |
| 16795s | parting up two to zero in this best of |
| 16798s | five for the grand finals here it is |
| 16800s | Theory down here in the bottom left in |
| 16802s | the blue and in the upper right in the |
| 16804s | red it is parting we're going to have an |
| 16807s | iron Vault for Theory right away |
| 16809s | previously we saw like a very very fast |
| 16812s | conclave so a little bit different |
| 16813s | bringing up an imp and that hexon across |
| 16816s | the map towards the center I I think we |
| 16819s | might see some very very fast pressure |
| 16822s | on parting |
| 16825s | expansion okay so where's the it might |
| 16830s | be like the meat farm Rush do you think |
| 16832s | yeah that yeah I was thinking that the |
| 16833s | meat farm rush we did have shroud Stone |
| 16836s | player but shroud Stone in like the main |
| 16839s | the main collection array like the main |
| 16840s | starting base that can be I've seen that |
| 16843s | a lot of times it seems pretty good so |
| 16844s | this game's still new guys we're trying |
| 16846s | to figure out a lot of these strategies |
| 16848s | ourselves um yeah it's going to be both |
| 16850s | I think I think it's going to be a meat |
| 16852s | farm over here maybe and a shroud stone |
| 16854s | at the other one yeah look at that |
| 16856s | position so a very cheesy aggressive |
| 16858s | play here from Theory theory is going to |
| 16861s | try to all in against parting and get a |
| 16864s | ton of damage early on so the celestials |
| 16866s | they do have these Global abilities that |
| 16868s | they can use based off their energy but |
| 16870s | then if you're hitting two different |
| 16871s | spots at the same time uh where do you |
| 16874s | want to have that energy applied to and |
| 16876s | during this time probably brutes are |
| 16878s | being made and being split into fiends |
| 16880s | to get across the map very very quickly |
| 16882s | yeah there it is already so Theory going |
| 16885s | to continue to lean on him now the first |
| 16887s | Argent is out it's coming up to help out |
| 16889s | here a little bit and you can see the |
| 16891s | fiends already getting on top of that so |
| 16893s | the Argent does not want to fight those |
| 16894s | fiends right now look at this theory is |
| 16896s | actually getting some good damage that |
| 16898s | prism's getting pretty low yeah |
| 16900s | meanwhile back here the fhog are |
| 16902s | spawning out and they're starting to |
| 16903s | chip away at the collection array the |
| 16905s | prism's being chased out the argent's |
| 16908s | going to come back in it's really going |
| 16909s | to come down to some very very specific |
| 16911s | control uh one misstep on either side |
| 16913s | could cost the game we've now got shroud |
| 16915s | now remember that's going to give the |
| 16917s | white hell over here to the rush which |
| 16919s | gives you a lot more momentum The |
| 16921s | Collection array is going to leave it's |
| 16922s | at about 40% |
| 16923s | HP and it's not mining for quite some |
| 16926s | time now right so that's a lot of lost |
| 16928s | income in the meantime still down here |
| 16930s | fighting a little bit kind of waiting |
| 16932s | for the next spell hog to come out to to |
| 16934s | help out but he is going to clear that |
| 16937s | uh Camp right there and so far this Rush |
| 16941s | is doing reasonably well but no like |
| 16944s | really permanent damage yet right one of |
| 16946s | the issues is that yeah he denies the |
| 16948s | base but you could see that only just |
| 16950s | now is Theory expanding right so if you |
| 16952s | look at it only from the celestials |
| 16954s | perspective it looks devastating but the |
| 16956s | truth is is that theory also has a |
| 16958s | fairly dysfunctional economy compared to |
| 16960s | what he would want to have if it was a |
| 16961s | normal game for sure for sure but you |
| 16964s | know what taking control of that early |
| 16966s | game this is like a key Concept in |
| 16968s | real-time strategy games where you kind |
| 16970s | of dictate what your opponent is having |
| 16972s | to do so even if parting position is not |
| 16975s | that bad he's going to be a little bit |
| 16977s | less Comfort comfortable in this |
| 16979s | position than he would be with his |
| 16980s | regular opener yeah I'm curious how |
| 16983s | uncomfortable parting is right now I'm |
| 16984s | more interested in the followup really |
| 16986s | from Theory and what kind of game he |
| 16988s | wants to make here by the way it seems |
| 16990s | like the rush is going to come out |
| 16991s | regardless here from |
| 16993s | party yeah going to start sending those |
| 16995s | Argin across the map why not this is |
| 16998s | what's worked for him so far five |
| 16999s | argents already two more going up to |
| 17002s | seven argents being sent across now will |
| 17005s | Theory actually have enough to do |
| 17007s | anything here has to pop a brute almost |
| 17009s | immediately he does have a fair amount |
| 17011s | of fiends he cannot be losing this base |
| 17015s | though he's going to move in here but |
| 17017s | when these argents come in they're going |
| 17018s | to have a harder time getting out |
| 17020s | especially with fiend's Pres over here |
| 17022s | uh the brutes they're much more sluggish |
| 17024s | they're a little bit uh slower and |
| 17025s | harder to get over here he does have um |
| 17027s | a couple more they're going to break |
| 17029s | in yeah it looks like that does not work |
| 17032s | out so well the shroud cover uh only |
| 17034s | half of it going up I think cuz of that |
| 17036s | ramp right there so the argents are |
| 17038s | actually having a pretty reasonable time |
| 17040s | here only one brute remains a few fiends |
| 17042s | left over with that hexen but this is |
| 17045s | looking tough the fhog wants to come out |
| 17047s | to help but gets leashed back home the |
| 17050s | argents are going to be out here again a |
| 17052s | lot of these are very low on HP they're |
| 17056s | going to be right outside this uh you |
| 17059s | know this battery over here the power |
| 17060s | bank is going to be able to um give them |
| 17061s | a lot more power and it's another tug of |
| 17064s | war here right now the Argent kind of |
| 17066s | splitting the position here between the |
| 17068s | second base and the |
| 17071s | first uh you know what right now oh gosh |
| 17074s | yeah trying to get a meat farm up there |
| 17076s | to help out a little bit he's having |
| 17078s | such a hard time because you it's so |
| 17080s | easy to kite these bru right they're so |
| 17082s | big and slow they're kind of tanky but |
| 17084s | in these early parts of the game range |
| 17086s | units just having their way with |
| 17088s | them the argents are going to try to |
| 17090s | come up here if they can hit the imps |
| 17092s | that's going to be huge he wants to try |
| 17094s | to claim this um healing totem here if |
| 17096s | he gets that I don't know that's going |
| 17097s | to be it there it is |
| 17099s | GG all right and that means that parting |
| 17103s | is going to take down the stormgate |
| 17105s | Invitational on the opening day of |
| 17108s | stormgate free to play and he is our |
| 17111s | champion kind of expected going in had a |
| 17114s | little bit of a rough time he's lost a |
| 17116s | few games on the way here but now it's |
| 17118s | time for him to collect his trophy |
| 17121s | Hardin has done it here at the ewc he |
| 17124s | has managed to defeat Theory 3 to zero |
| 17127s | in an incredibly um pretty fast series |
| 17130s | to be honest just to go back for a |
| 17132s | second cuz it might have looked like the |
| 17133s | game HED abruptly getting control of the |
| 17136s | healing totem in between the second base |
| 17139s | and the first base basically gives you |
| 17140s | total control of that area there's no |
| 17143s | way that you can mine from your second |
| 17144s | base uh therefore you're going to be |
| 17146s | flushed out um of the game economically |
| 17149s | and there's no way to attack it and |
| 17150s | recover it yeah Theory there having a |
| 17152s | little bit of a hard time stopping those |
| 17154s | argents from their just continual kiting |
| 17156s | hard to keep consistent damage on them |
| 17158s | with brute fiend and one hexen uh you |
| 17161s | know he tried his best there to kind of |
| 17163s | cheese parting out in that third game |
| 17165s | unable to pull it off and unfortunately |
| 17167s | we weren't able to see his late game |
| 17169s | plays against celestials once again |
| 17171s | again Harding unable to win in Soul just |
| 17174s | a little bit over a week ago has managed |
| 17176s | to redeem himself here defeating theory |
| 17178s | in what was honestly I think about as |
| 17180s | excited as of a final as you could have |
| 17182s | possibly asked for these guys have been |
| 17184s | incredibly active since day one of the |
| 17186s | closed beta um they've been both leading |
| 17189s | the uh the Forefront on how we |
| 17191s | understand the game whether it's |
| 17193s | Vanguard infernal or Celestial and it |
| 17195s | was really cool to cast them here uh in |
| 17197s | the finals yeah it was especially nice |
| 17199s | seeing such a variety of strategies it's |
| 17202s | like we just really didn't see the same |
| 17204s | strategies over and over we saw all |
| 17206s | sorts of different unit comps and I |
| 17208s | think the future is bright yeah I think |
| 17211s | so we're going to throw it to the uh |
| 17212s | front desk here and see what everybody's |
| 17214s | thinking now that we have wrapped up |
| 17215s | this tournament and parting is our |
| 17218s | champion thank you boys yes shades of |
| 17220s | what we saw from a laser trying to |
| 17221s | figure out infernal versus Celestial |
| 17223s | over in the tasteless TV Showdown will |
| 17225s | not be successful as parting 30 in the |
| 17229s | Grand Final zg and Ry me here to talk |
| 17232s | about this Victory from parting Ry I'm |
| 17234s | going to start with you because you |
| 17236s | brought up a good point all of these |
| 17237s | games actually From partings perspective |
| 17240s | very different from one another to |
| 17241s | become the champion yeah basically |
| 17243s | complete opposite game one he shows us |
| 17245s | he can be very aggressive and get the |
| 17247s | job done yeah no one is surprised CH |
| 17249s | game two he's macroing it's all out |
| 17250s | Macro for a bit and obvious he does have |
| 17252s | a move out he gets a cancel on the |
| 17254s | expand which puts theory in a very |
| 17255s | uncomfortable position but that's |
| 17257s | technically a very macro oriented game |
| 17259s | gets the job done in game three he's the |
| 17262s | defender he's getting cheesed but he |
| 17264s | also slams that one down gets the job |
| 17266s | done once more so that's really |
| 17267s | impressive you don't just win cuz you're |
| 17269s | very good at one specific build no the |
| 17271s | man can attack the man can defend the |
| 17273s | man can all out macro obviously that's |
| 17275s | stuff we already knew but it's still |
| 17276s | very cool to see that being displayed in |
| 17278s | the grand finals yeah without knowing |
| 17280s | the absolutes of how truly they know how |
| 17283s | each other's going to play it did feel |
| 17284s | like Parton kind of had the's number |
| 17287s | knowing what he was going to bring to |
| 17289s | each of these Maps as we take a look at |
| 17290s | the replays each yeah and you pointed |
| 17292s | out even like game three something that |
| 17294s | a laser had kind of shown how to do |
| 17296s | right and then I think because of that |
| 17298s | parting knew how to respond so I think |
| 17300s | also there is just a lot of intel on |
| 17302s | what theory does not just in their |
| 17304s | practice games but also on the broadcast |
| 17306s | and what infernal can do and paring was |
| 17308s | clearly ready against Theory and he was |
| 17310s | particularly ready against this |
| 17312s | particular infernal player so yeah he |
| 17314s | proved to be the best uh you know kind |
| 17315s | of just general RTS player as we might |
| 17317s | expect but he just really understands |
| 17319s | stormgate as well yeah very terrifying |
| 17321s | to go up against these kinds of Argent |
| 17322s | numbers and party knows exactly how to |
| 17324s | get away with the numbers of Argent he |
| 17326s | requires in the early game against these |
| 17328s | infernal plays fry yeah the man has very |
| 17330s | good micro we know that so he's |
| 17332s | obviously going to take some very good |
| 17333s | fights early on and it's also perhaps a |
| 17335s | little bit by intimidation because |
| 17338s | perhaps he saw what theory is capable of |
| 17340s | at minute 8 or a minute 10 as we really |
| 17342s | want to take a close look at his GG |
| 17344s | timing way saw a couple of times there |
| 17346s | yeah and perhaps pting saw that |
| 17348s | semi-finals or the lower bracket finals |
| 17349s | between theor and mon he's like like |
| 17351s | well if I let Theory do his thing and he |
| 17353s | becomes like 150 Supply Plus Inferno |
| 17356s | player with tier three upgrades that |
| 17359s | could actually become incredibly scary |
| 17360s | so let's just rely on the power of the |
| 17362s | audience and make sure that I can either |
| 17364s | be aggressive or at least take total map |
| 17366s | control and he did an incredibly good |
| 17368s | job with that yeah the final moments |
| 17369s | coming in here from this as well and by |
| 17371s | the time you've defended the the Shroud |
| 17374s | Stone Rush the fhog rush and things like |
| 17376s | that only having a few brutes and a hex |
| 17379s | in here to deal with these arer it's |
| 17380s | just not enough c yeah I think you have |
| 17382s | to kill the collection array which |
| 17383s | didn't happen um it did float away and |
| 17385s | then it just you know sits down on |
| 17387s | another mine and there's not much else |
| 17388s | that theory is able to do with such a |
| 17390s | dedicated opener R and I were kind of |
| 17392s | discussing we wonder if maybe changing |
| 17394s | the fhog and the stone would have been |
| 17396s | diff like better but ultimately it might |
| 17398s | not have mattered because again |
| 17399s | collection array lives and Fel Hogs |
| 17401s | would have killed it even slower then uh |
| 17403s | yeah I think that might just be kind of |
| 17404s | the secret to surviving there yeah very |
| 17406s | specific reasons you put the farm there |
| 17409s | because sometimes there's been moments |
| 17410s | where you put the farm on a slightly |
| 17412s | different angle and then the Fel Hogs |
| 17414s | can't quite reach the the collection of |
| 17416s | it's it's very finicky very weird r at |
| 17418s | the moment but sometimes happens yeah |
| 17420s | but if you would have the tower in the |
| 17422s | natural then maybe if you take care of |
| 17424s | that area then you can also take care of |
| 17425s | that creep camp and then you have the |
| 17427s | Health Camp to work with so then your |
| 17428s | hexon can heal up maybe you can get some |
| 17430s | value out of the brute or the fiends you |
| 17432s | have there who knows I'm sure that |
| 17434s | parting would have had an answer for it |
| 17435s | cuz sporting just seems to always have |
| 17437s | the answer and it doesn't really matter |
| 17439s | what game he's playing but these games |
| 17440s | are D fun though all right well that's |
| 17442s | that final thoughts I'm going to leave |
| 17444s | it with you guys zg what you what you |
| 17445s | thinking really happy that Celestial |
| 17447s | versus Celestial ended up being so |
| 17448s | diverse it was I think we saw a couple |
| 17450s | of units I'm glad that we saw some late |
| 17452s | game infernal versus Celestial you know |
| 17454s | it's very clear that no one really has |
| 17456s | all of the answers while paron kind of |
| 17457s | seemed like it but even he struggled in |
| 17459s | some of the early matches so it's |
| 17461s | absolutely still developing would love |
| 17462s | to see some Vanguard action next time as |
| 17464s | well see how that goes but I'm really |
| 17466s | happy with how much we got to see the |
| 17467s | variety in this series Rony yeah it's |
| 17469s | easy to look at it's Grand f be like man |
| 17471s | pting really has it all figured out but |
| 17473s | we have to think back of that Series |
| 17475s | against maxad where maxad took the lead |
| 17477s | and looked very very promising on ey of |
| 17479s | the dread we actually kind of all |
| 17480s | thought it was going to go Max set's way |
| 17482s | for a little while when he kept on |
| 17483s | sniping those bases and managed to yeah |
| 17486s | crack some holes in the defenses of |
| 17487s | pting so actually pting really did have |
| 17489s | to work for it in the series against |
| 17490s | Mana as well so I think it was really |
| 17492s | fun we got to see a bit of everything |
| 17494s | it's a shame we didn't get to see any |
| 17495s | Vanguard but I'm sure there will be |
| 17497s | plenty of opportunities in the future to |
| 17499s | see some uh XEL see some lances a Vulcan |
| 17503s | drop or two who knows we're going to see |
| 17504s | it all CL a cheeky Vulcan drop you say |
| 17507s | interesting somebody might like that out |
| 17508s | there so I'm for sure and who would have |
| 17510s | guessed a Chinese player causing some |
| 17512s | chaos in an RTS that was an interesting |
| 17514s | way to open things up well thank you |
| 17515s | very much guys for joining me here thank |
| 17517s | you very much everybody around the world |
| 17518s | not only joining us here on this show |
| 17520s | but also joining us on this journey of |
| 17523s | exploration and kind of uncovering the |
| 17526s | potential future of RTS here through |
| 17528s | stormgate don't forget there is the take |
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| 17538s | calendars that does it from us here and |
| 17540s | for Riad congratulations to parting and |
| 17542s | we'll see you next time for more |
| 17543s | stormgate bye for now |
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