[2019] Ea_carrie on ship challenge drop rates...0 zetas!?

Thanks for posting this, because I was looking for an in to talk about it. In the third hour of rambling my head off, I said two things that were too close to "not necessarily true" for my comfort that I want to clarify. I usually try to give myself an out, like "I don't recall if that's live, but it should be" but I would totally understand why it seems that way. It's because I spend as much time playing internal builds and having discussions as I do playing the live build. Usually when I'm posting here, I run around and get clarity, but I didn't do that because we recorded over the weekend, and I should have fact checked the following day and asked for an edit but forgot.

So we started investigating where that ended up, we DID end up taking 0-2 off things that you never saw, so that doesn't get me any brownie points. And so I sincerely apologize for not being clear when I should have checked or at least followed up and requested we edit out my babbling nonsense. The reality is, I agree with the sentiment in this case VERY strongly, so we are going to make a change to that drop rate and probably fix it at 1. Caveat: Have not run all the numbers yet, so while this is still very much my desire and I think we can do it, we need to cross a few t's and dot a few i's. But unlike other caveats, if we do this, we'll do it as soon as humanly possible and post about it when we've confirmed.

The "other thing" btw is that I was talking about us reordering the shop tabs, and that was a task in TU16 polish which just ended, but I confirmed today it did not get in, because it causes a world of hurt for players leveling up without additional tech work. So the shops will still be in the bad order and we are looking to see what we can do to reduce friction for elder players without making new players' lives painful.

This is a really good description of the tendencies we fall into in development. In many cases we walk through the player experience, either in mockup/wireframe or build where we sit there and simulate what it looks like, and this is where employees playing the game really helps (and the fact that we have many different player types - John Salera would not rest about the Ewoks until we beefed them up, because he's completely F2P and that's his main squad).

That's also why my brain shortcircuited in the meeting because you go "I definitely saw that somewhere, I remember we changed that, where did that change".

And also sometimes when we're rushed we skip the player perception step and rely on the math. And that's where we get our "Luck is probability taking personally" problems. We need to do better about touch and feel and experience... and yes, in some cases, drop rates too.

Perfectly described. Apologies for not making it more user friendly! TU16 is the (very) soon update.

Perfectly described. Apologies for not making it more user friendly! TU16 is the (very) soon update.

Ugh, I did not do that on purpose. Crumb was delivering the news that was the reality of how things are that you didn't like, but were 100% my fault, and then I get to come in here after we've discussed everyone's concerns and talk about all my hopes and dreams and change things willy nilly. He's constantly advocating for the community in meetings, so feel free to direct your hate at me still.

Yup, we have had this fix done for a couple months, TMoney from Operation Metaverse brought it to us so we could address it without it being out in the public, and for that I'm super grateful. Glad the fix is going live soon though. People will have to l2p. :)