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That’s really a crap move. Doing projects and liberation in the whole lower Manhattan before hunting Keener. I’m level 40 and i litterally loose a lot of EXP because the SHD level isn’t available unless i finish the campaign... Disgusting...

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over 4 years ago - /u/ChrisGansler - Direct link

Originally posted by UncleThursday

I had the same thing happen to me. Because of the bug that shipped with the expansion, I was level 35 by the time I got done my first lieutenant. And I was only able to do that lieutenant because there was a phone next to the safe house leader and holding X activated both. So I hit level 40 after 3 lieutenants and 3 zones liberated.

By the time I finished Keener, I had gone up at least 4-5 levels on my screen (the effect showing it had happened), but I am now only at SHD level 1.

Let me reiterate: this issue was caused by the bug Massive let ship with the expansion. This was not me running around not doing the intended story because I felt like it. I literally couldn't do the story due to a game breaking bug. Massive should have a way to note who hit 40 before finishing the Manhunt story line and should have given us the appropriate SHD levels upon becoming eligible for them.

Shipping the expansion with a game breaking bug is unacceptable. Then (unintentionally or not) punishing players who kept playing, despite the bug, by hindering their end game advancement is just pouring lemon juice and salt on the wound. It may only be a few levels, but that's still time the players put in for literally no reward or advancement. /u/ChrisGansler /u/UbiJohan

While I completely agree that the bug causing players to not be able to progress was terrible and should not have happened, it doesn't really tie into the SHD Level situation. Gaining access to it is part of the campaign and you will need to finish it. I don't believe that will change.

over 4 years ago - /u/ChrisGansler - Direct link

Originally posted by UncleThursday

If people got to 40 because the game breaking bug shipped with the expansion, that's not entitlement. That's them actually playing, despite Massive shipping the expansion with a literally progression halting bug in it. That's on Massive, not those of us who wanted to go through the story, but were denied the ability to do so because of Massive's bug.

The point being that the game should keep track of XP gains, regardless. The game tracks it enough to show us level ups with no rewards, so it is being tracked. Just give those who got 40 before finishing the manhunt the XP they have, in fact, already earned.

Asking for what you've already earned isn't entitlement. Or do you also tell people whose paychecks aren't correct to stop being entitled?

If it was as simple as adding that XP I would agree. But it doesn't work like that, I'm afraid. The feature was designed differently and is hooked up to the completion of the campaign. To give the XP some players have missed out due to the bug, we would need to change the system, manually track the XP and likely manually add the XP. The system of "just" adding the XP that was missed doesn't exist. Additionally we would also need to track all these players which would be an additional search that doesn't exist in the game.

I completely understand the notion and of course in an ideal world we wouldn't have had any progression blockers that cause this. I want to clearly say that it's not at all an easy or quick fix to do what was suggested.

over 4 years ago - /u/ChrisGansler - Direct link

Originally posted by UserProv_Minotaur

Maybe have levels before you get the ANNA watch should award proficiency caches?

Also, what happened to leveling up awarding proficiency caches?

You get Field Proficiency from Level 31 - 40. At Level 40 you don't get any of these but have the Season Levels that have gear as reward.

over 4 years ago - /u/ChrisGansler - Direct link

Originally posted by UserProv_Minotaur

Except you don't get the season levels until the season starts.

Yes, for a week there was no rewards, that is true.