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Was curious to see how AI changed after the patch so I play a bit this morning.

Is there any point to Heroic...particularly solo...at this point? Honestly, now is the time to run solo since drones aren't in play, but the scaling from challenge to Heroic is crazy exponential.

Challenge is a BREEZE and maybe 1/3 if not less of the time to run a mission in comparison...plus you get a checkpoint repswan if there is a bonkers F up (you've got to be pretty bad to get in a position you can't recover from on Challenge though) on your part.

The reason I ask the question is I can't remember a SINGLE time where Heroic has produced a better gear piece than what I've seen from Challenge...solo or with a team. Sure you get 500 gear with heroic at EOM named types...but the rolls are the same on attributes. And the difference between 490s and 500 is nil with Heroic producing NO max rolled attributes for me ever thanks to what is horrendous loot RNG (apparently?).

LvL 4 checkpoints produce 500 gear and are easier to farm. The scaling of Heroic...combined with the loot RNG that seems to NEVER produce a max rolled attribute and provides the same ranges at challenge vs heroic...makes me wonder is it actually worth it.

Maybe in a team scenario where you have 4x the chance to produce a gear piece so long as you are all willing to share amongst each other...but I still can't think of a time where the extra, sometimes "bang head against wall" level, of effort of Heroic has actually produced a tangible reward. EVERY drop produces gear so you're gonna get your miserable chance at getting the right attributes/talent order no matter what but right now it seems like the attribute range is pretty much the same across the two...so...what is the point of Heroic?

Challenege = same attribute range but more pieces of gear due to the faster rate (meaning more chances at a good attribute/talent order) so why ever run Heroic given the monstrosity that is the current RNG drop rate for a single max attribute let alone a piece with a good attribute/talent set AND one max attribute?
almost 5 years ago - Ubi-RealDude - Direct link
Out of curiosity, how many pieces of <500 GS (~490) GS gear have you collected vs. how many at 500 GS?
What's the typical loot examine-sort-discard loop look like for you?