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If I play wild rift using my original league account, as my computer is dead, would that count as my account being active?
Yes
If I play wild rift using my original league account, as my computer is dead, would that count as my account being active?
Yes
What about the name selling market where they keep names on low level accounts just to sell to other people for IRL money?
Not something we want to encourage and I imagine it would get hit as well on any work we do on account security stuff (see here) but it's not the highest thing on the totem pole right now.
Unlike most other problems in this space, this one is sort of victimless because it doesn't usually involved compromised accounts, we just would rather it not exist because we can't really be sure you're not going to get scammed.
You're doing God's work in this thread, Dan.
Thanks Vapora. I hope you're doing well :)
Are you discussing account selling or smurfs in general? I know some rioters are against smurfs while some are promoting it.
My personal opinion is you can't separate one from the other.
Any attempt at tackling account sale, botting, etc, is going to be intrinsically linked to the desire players have to get a "fresh" account
This isn't really a security problem, it's a "how players interact with our game" problem and it'll require solutions in that vein
Thank you! Just making sure I understand, if I haven't logged in for over three years, but I've played over 20 games and have purchased RP, then I won't be deleted yeah?
20 hours of games, but yeah, you should be good
Are you planning on deleting permamently banned accounts as well, considering they don't play valorant or other Riot games on that account? People could use the nicknames that were used on permamently banned accounts.
I addressed this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/wp69rq/riot_will_soon_be_deleting_old_very_inactive/ikev74s/
Note that accounts that are inactive will have their summoner name become available for claim through player support before they are eligible for deletion. I believe the cutoff is 30 months (2 1/2 years) to claim the name of an inactive account, and it's at least 3 to be flagged for deletion.
Sorry but may I ask why? I don't know the reason but the size of playerbases always interests me and I like comparing it, seeing how much the game still grows and/or if the growth is slowing down but it's kinda sad that I can only find rough estimates of the playerbase size on random articles and nothing about the chinese servers sizes.
Honestly, that's a question for someone who actually runs a business and not for an engineer like me.
My guess is that it's because there are more downsides to releasing that information than there are upsides.
Companies only really disclose that information if they are required to by law (i.e if they are publicly traded) or if it's a selling point for one of their products (Steam, specifically, shows you the MAU of products on their platform, but does not show you the MAU of Steam itself).
How much was GDPR specifically a factor?
We've been using GDPR as the floor, not the bar, for player privacy since before it came into force.
GDPR allows you to keep data on individuals as long as you have a legitimate business interest to keep it. I'm not a lawyer, but as far as I know we do have that legitimate business interest to keep player data even of inactive accounts.
We've just decided that we don't keep data around that we know, in good faith, belongs to players that probably won't return. As I mentioned, every email address or account is one more that could potentially be compromised.
I imagine you did not cut it already because new accounts mean more chance for the user to buy the same skin more than once
I commented on this here.
I think I speak for the whole community when I say we would love to be kept in the loop on this obviously don't tell us the solution but any updates on this situation would be very much appreciated. It would certainly be a good will win but actions are louder than words.
Like many other things we've discussed publicly, this is something we are actively investigating and might not have any updates on for some time. We try our best to let you know what we're thinking of but that does also mean that sometimes you might hear about something long before it comes to fruition.
Thank you for your patience :)
Capitalizing VALORANT, props to the Brand management team🤌
I have a friend, who is a producer on VALORANT; I want to stay in their good books :)
And the account age/total games played is more expensive than tracking the challenge for the weirdest things?
Why not simply unhide it?
I don't think it would be expensive for simple counting statistics (which the challenges are), but something as fully detailed as every match history and every person you played against... yeah, possibly.
Again, this is all speculative. I don't work on any of this, and I am just making educated guesses about what the bottleneck would be on any system like that if I were to personally author one.
Does the alleged stockpile of bottled accounts sitting in cold storage to be sold have anything to do with this decision?
We've made this decision solely to reduce the amount of personal information we store on players that we probably don't need to store.
Thank you foremost for answering.
But meanwhile any other game, HOTS, Smite etc is tracking total amount of games played, how old the account is, etc.
How is tracking of the most basic thing of any online Game such as age of the account or rounds played more "prohibitively expensive" than any of the weird ass challenges we have? Or how many Teemo's die each minute etc?
Why is it that LoL, one of the biggest PC games, lacking such feature? Its there in the client, all you have to do is to play a single SR Game, but why cant I see it outside of a game?
Back in 2009 and a few years +, we could see all the different stats of anything. So how come,that we HAD thr option to see in a decade ago, but not now?
Heck, even Wild Rift is tracking all games played
So, there's collecting that information and then there's making it available, at any time, for any player.
Collecting that information is definitely something we do. Somewhere in our data centers there is information that will say how many games you've played, and all that.
However, having all of that information available in a format for every account that has and will ever exist, accessible in real time would be the expensive part.
I appreciate you guys taking these privacy concerns seriously.
Are there plans to email accounts that have been marked inactive but are not subject to deletion because of another criterion? This might be useful to me as a friendly FYI, since I try to keep tabs on who has my email address and such, and it would be useful knowledge to me that I haven’t logged into a Riot service in 3+ years, even if my total playtime means the account will stay.
We don't have any plans for that right now, no. In general, we really only want to email you if there is something that requires your attention.
hi dan honks i remember you played an aram and went tank sion not lethality I appreciate that cheers
i play tank on everything in aram. i am not having fun if the enemy carries are.
So it requires manual review for a sold account to be identified or is there an automatic that flags them for review?
To be clear I'm not commenting on any of the processes we have right now for identifying and actioning compromised accounts, just pointing out that in this case the OP would be fine.
Sell level 30 boosts that require people to be level 30 to purchase. Then have that level 30 account link to the account they bought it on and bans on one account go to both accounts. Not sure if this is a possible solution though.
That does sound like a good solution. I hate to meme myself, but right now the Technology Isn't There. It's one we'll have on our list for sure, though.
I have a second acc like lv 9 I obviously have less than 20 hours but the acc is 6 months old, will it also be in the list of deletion?
Your account will only be considered to be deleted if you have not logged onto it in 3 years and have played less than 20 hours, not bought or received any currencies and have not got any legacy content.
I know you mentioned in another post that you can't disclose anything like a number of accounts being deleted, but can you give a percentage of accounts being deleted by this action? are we talking less than 1% or more like 10%.
I cannot disclose that, no.