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over 2 years ago - /u/Riot_Preeti - Direct link

Originally posted by Slimshady4

Thought they had said the phantom would have unique shooting sounds?

Yes, there's unique firing audio. The level 2 video of the Phantom shows it.

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Originally posted by yfa17

phantom is insane

How do you like the Finisher and the crystal effect that fills in every 5 kills?

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Originally posted by TheBreadConqueror

how did you guys change the butterfly model in comparison to the other ones?

It's a brand new model design (new shapes) and has the crystal texture effect on the blade as well as the handle.

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Originally posted by Hexmos

I like it! I would love to see more skins have the kill effect. I've thought a lot about the champion's glow effect since the release of the first one, and I think the biggest improvement that could be made is, instead of glowing when you are top fragging, the glow displays when you get a kill in the round. And if you get multiple kills, the glow is brighter. The crystal effect that fills in every 5 kills is also really cool, but I think most people in the community have stated that 20 kills should be the max effect to fill it in instead of 25. Great work though, yall always convince me to spend more money :)

The gun does glow when you get a kill! The VCT logo glows on-kill similar to how the Champs 2021 glows when you get a kill.

We debated a lot on the number of kills. Ultimately, we wanted the effect to feel special and rare and 25 felt like the right amount that feels special but also not something you'd get every game. It's aspirational and something you'll really appreciate when you do achieve it.

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Originally posted by drdfrster64

Truthfully I wish the progression was a bit exaggerated, most matches won't see the effect past 15kills on avg so I wish it was either flashier every 5 kills, or at least flashier on the last 10. You are sort of making a plain skin at 0 kills, so the high end kill count visuals should feel a little more stunning to compensate.

I get that from an artists standpoint, you are actually putting more effort into it than an average skin, having to make a final skin and also make the stages leading up to it, but from a consumer's perspective it feels the opposite where we're getting less of a skin and then working up to an average one. It actually feels less visually appealing as a result. Transformative animations at the start of every round you pass a benchmark might compensate, but these would obviously be expensive from Riot's perspective.

If I were to recreate the skin from the ground up (not an artist, so take my input with a grain of salt), I would keep it the same idea but add different colored facades to the jeweled face for every 5 kills. It starts off with nothing, then some red, then some red+yellow, then red+yellow+purple, then red+yellow+purple+pink. The colors are an example, more appealing would be visually contrasting colors but you'd have to redesign the color palette of the base gun as well which I would imagine to be a lot of work. I think it would help it really 'sparkle' though I'd imagine this was an idea you guys went through already.

Either way, I think my overall point is that it's missing that "pizzazz" of each stage. It doesn't feel rewarding enough, but frankly I don't know if its possible to deliver that effect under budget so the idea itself may be an issue.

edit: finisher is pretty sick, I think some people might complain its too similar to the last champions one but I like the continuity. The brim one was definitely cooler but it solves the issue people were complaining about where they couldn't really get the full animation.

For the Finisher yeah we wanted there to be some sense of continuity that threads together the 2022 and 2021 skins. The "trophy world" is different than the Brim Daddy world from last year to still give it some difference.

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Originally posted by yfa17

Love the crystal effect, it's a great middle-ground to see effects while getting kills vs the original champions vandal where you had to top frag to see the effect.

The additional shooting sound is the biggest reason I'm buying this one though, as that was definitely missing from the 2021 champs vandal.

This finisher isn't as cool as the brimstone secret one though but you set the bar too high with that one haha

I looooove the firing effect (both the sound effects and muzzle flash).

Nothing beats Brim Daddy, I know. :P

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Originally posted by bs000

riot commenter made it sound like there was going to be a lot more to it in the teaser post :c

That was me! I think there's a lot more going on compared to the previous butterfly knives: - Blade crystal effect fills out every 5 kills, up to 25 kills - If you have 25 kills and are top fragging, your inspect changes (trophy easter egg) - top frag glow if you're top fragging (similar to the Champs 2021 Vandal last year)

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Originally posted by bbycalz

Omg I just bought the champions bundle I’m so excited

Share a video or pic once you get the trophy inspect!

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Originally posted by viktae

Why is the knife's animation not a loop like the 2021 one ? D:

It does loop!

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Originally posted by Razoryx

The problem is, in many games, even when you do achieve it, you may see it in its full beauty for like 2-3 rounds before the game ends most of time, which is kinda weird.

Unless you are smurfing with 40 frags per game.

I actually had a game today where my Raze had it first half! It was really special spectating while they had it (they had 26 kills and were top frag, so got to see the butterfly knife and the Phantom).

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Originally posted by Razoryx

Yea, but unless you are Radiant, that was probably the smurf case.

But all good man, I don’t dislike the skinline, just 25 kills is s bit too much for me when I play comp only in imm+. Topfrag in my games is usually on 30 kills at the end of the game. So I respect that the effect is special but rn it is a bit too special. I think for the gems it should be 20 kills max and 25 kills + topfrag could be the trophy. Just my 2cents

We actually were totally okay with it being something you only see at the end of the match, like it's earned progressively through the course of the match. Appreciate your thoughts though because we do read stuff players say and wanna hear how people feel about stuff. <3

(Also, I should have specified I was in an unrated the person was having a good game and kept denying our praise when we hyped him up.)