Just to say, these sort of statements are never a good idea to base your expectations of an aircraft on.
We all remember "Lightning F.6 intercepted Concorde / U-2" and "could outclimb an F-15".
A one time achievement for sure is a cool feat for the aircraft, but dont base your entire hopes on a singular claim for
any
aircraft.
Since none of them have any fighter, bomber or actual offensive capacities no. Its literally on the verge of impossible (but im not gonna say that word) you shall ever see them in WT.
Ju-52 is in the CDK because its a single player / mission map asset from long ago.
As I said probably several hundred pages ago. Neither of these aircraft are the subject of this chat. Both are off topic and can be discussed in the aircraft section if you want too.
This is not the place.
When you stop asking questions you know have no place here. American aircraft are doing just fine right now.
The two bombs are worlds apart. The fact Fritz-X is guided is about all thats similar. The GBUs of this type are entirely new.
Its far deeper than just the method of guidance. But its clear to see where your opinion stands.
Nothing to do with this topic. Please take the discussion to the correct place.
Its not the only jet in the update. Thats for sure.
A-5C would like a word with you.
You can bug report whenever we have a Dev server. You will need to provide properly sourced information that shows the Ja 37 variant spesifically had them. As all of our current information shows that it did not and only later variants did. We are open to new sources however if properly backed up.
But the images already posted in this thread a day or so ago are not enough and need proper sourcing. It's not clear what variant they are for and also 2 rather basic drawings are not enough to model the pods.
As I said it needs proper sourcing. This is a random extract. It needs the front cover and proof it's the correct version. As well as evidence of the pods themselves.
We have no information that the Italian F-104G ever used it. It's not linked via any source.
Yuuus. Some of the Shackleton and Viggen at Newark museum. But the Viggen ones were more just extras.
I can when I'm back home. I'm actually away camping at the National Airsoft festival in the UK at the moment.
I was just checking in here to make sure the roof was still on ))
It's a very cool plane indeed. To quote a famous meme ))
Aaaand we are back to normal Smin operations.
Just a quick reminder that any F-14/15/16 + discussions here are off topic and have already been previously warned before to be taken to the correct places.
No matter your personal justification, this is not the place. Warnings will start to be issued for those that keep ignoring this.
Please stay on topic guys o7
Tfw you check the RR expecting to have easily gone +10 pages in an afternoon.
Then you remember the forum hamsters have escaped )))))
Just a heads up for those that are sending PMs, we are aware guys and working to fix the issues.
There are no more French vehicles this update.
Further changes may still come. Not necessarily on release. It more depends on source material. I would recommend reporting any missing presets you have evidence for.
France has had the Magic for over a year now. Its present on several vehicles.
Just like several nations use the Sidewinder, multiple nations can / may get the Magic. Its not exclusive to France.
Incoming
This is pretty meaningless. China gets the Magic because the A-5 has Magics. Just like there are premium jets in multiple trees that had Sidewinders before the US got a Sidewinder armed premium.
There is no real point to be made here.
F-8E was the next logical step for the US and also France. We cannot speak about future plans of vehicles.
The MiG-27 is where it is currently intended to go. We dont plan to move it to the Sukhoi line right now.
Its not just to say France gets "Something". F-8E was an important and historical part of the French Naval aviation.
F-8E comes before those. There is no reason to hold the E back.
Not really sure what fixes you are referring too. If you are experiencing issues from todays changes please be sure to report them.
Again, this is not really a bug discussion. Please feel free to report any issues you have experienced and we can check it out properly.
1) ITO was actually planned for France first and then later decided to give it to Sweden because we already have Finish vehicles there.
2) F-8 (France) is not a copy paste, its a unique model from the F-8E family.
3) It was directly asked for by the French community:
4) Its coming at the same time as the US F-8E.
5) Not sure what relevance French Navy has to do here, I was talking about French Naval aviation, which the F-8 is apart of. Not off topic discussions.
We have been working on some of the most requested machines and filling the gaps of technology (Like the ITO Crotale) as far as possible
It has a choice of 2.
We don't need individual models of every nations carrier.
For 98% of the playerbase, its a runway on the water. We recently updated carrier models with 3 brand new modern carriers for the 3 biggest nations they most apply to in game.
They were more for random battles and thats more a suggestion for the French Test drive. French Jets have operated in reality from both British and American Carriers.
Ark Royal is both historically significant and there are lots of aircraft in game relevant to that generation of Carrier. Compared to just the Etendard and F-8 for France.
Every nations carrier fits the criteria for being historically significant in their own respective ways. That wasn't really the point.
The Carriers we have in game are the most significant for the vehicles we have and players interest. Nobody said more French Naval Aircraft are not planned ahead. But right now they are not here, so the need fo a French Carrier at the moment is far less than Ark Royal for example, which is why it was selected.
Right now, there is no need for them, so the ones that had the most need and relevance were added. This was all explained and d
Again, this is not really about domestic national significance. But historical relevance to the game and the vehicles we have.
A carrier was needed outside of NATO for obvious reasons and the most applicable, famous and relevant Soviet one was the Baku class. Important for both the Ka 29 and Yak-38, one of the stars of the new power update. Given the size of the Russian player base in comparison to the French, its also another very clear reason.
An AI carrier has no relation to the development of any nations playable Navy. Otherwise we would already have 6 carrier models.
Just to be clear so you do not set yourself or others up for unrealistic expectations.
This is not a wishlist topic.
Except those that keep taking the topic off subject matter when they know its both been discussed and concluded before and has more relevant places for when you wish to "bring up" the discussion.
The better answer was there is no need for your comment at all. You are well aware of how this topic works.
My job is to respond here and keep things in check and on topic. Not just to answer for your benefit, but for everyone. You know this well enough. You also continued to keep the discussion rolling after several conclusions.
This is now the end of the matter. Continuing to do so will result in a warning being issued.
Because nobody has ever got angry when we don't / can't implement something or in a given timeframe before /s
Even just before the announcement of Italian Helicopters people were already throwing the "GaIjIn LiEd To Us" because we mentioned in an Interview over a year previous they were in works to come.
That's not even a full roadmap, just a mention and it causes that sort of outcome.
We had loose roadmaps previously and as we explained they simply create more issues than solve. Even when we have talked about our immediate plans in the past and previously s
As I've already said, any missing equipment should be reported with proper sources. Asfaik it's not due to get them currently.
We have made no mention of the F-105 coming this update.
Again, things being in the files is not an indication it's coming soon or otherwise.
We explicitly said, several times, things being in the files are meaningless and
should not
be taken as something is coming soon or next patch. This was made clear several times.
Any assumption that it was is purely down to personal assumption and not factual base. We are not going to deny each and every single vehicle thats ever been in the files, datramined or leaked every single major update.
Nobody is being blamed here, but any disappointment is purely self created. We set up no expectations that any of those vehicles were coming this patch.
We provided the factual basis. Those aircraft that were leaked were NOT guaranteed to come this update. We made that very clear.
This policy does not disappoint more, only those that ignore everything we say, make their own assumptions and then disappoint themselves when nothing we have said has lead to that.
We provide information on what actually is coming in development blogs. That is information we can share and are ready to share.
We are not going to start confirming, denying or even speculating loosely on what is and is not in the works because the same handful of people jump to conclusions, make assumptions and then get disappointed when things we made no mention of coming soon or gave any sort of confirmation on dont come.
The majority seem to understand its best to wait for dev blogs.
Between majors, we have a whole host of events and other ongoing activities. There is no game that actively bombards information 24/7 all year round about its upcoming content. We deliver plenty of dev blogs ahead of time and also often in-between too.
Just like the F-105 situation here? Its clear we are working on it, but with no promise at all that it will come or will be in any upcoming update, yet look at the outcome of that.
Thats about as transparent as it gets and as you can see for yourself right here in this topic, "disappointment" that its not comi
There is no new Russian / Soviet MBT this patch.
For the 3rd time today
Something
being
in
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files
does
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anything
Put that on my tombstone at this rate.
MiG-27 is launching with the first series of guided bombs. Everyone else (who had them) will get them in the future. The EJ Kai is advanced enough as it is for now.
For the time being it wont yes.
For the same reason it does not have smart bombs. Its advanced enough as it is currently.
The British Phantoms have had Dopplar already. The EJ as it is is already one of the most advanced and effective jets in the game. The Kai is the longer term variant thats only going to get better over time.
Of course playerbase opinion is considered, but in this instance, its already one of the top jets in game (EJ) getting a second version thats going to get even better with time.
We are not going to throw everything at it too early.
As I understand, the equipment the Viggen has now is now it will start off.
Thank you (all of you that contributed) for the documentation and sources. It really helped.
Perhaps you misunderstood. It refers to the context of the game. The EJ is already one of the most advanced and effective jets in game.
EJ Kai is a further development of that and is not going to be any weaker than the EJ currently is clearly.
It is in no need of anything further right now.
And the EJ Kai will be fun for Japanese Phantom fans and balanced as it joins the game currently and can be upgraded over time with more equipment in the future.
Nothing to report so far. It may need further validation.
If we had something to announce on any form of rework of that kind, we would do so properly and not here.
Confirmed the case that the patch notes are correct. The old one will simply be hidden except for those that own it. Right now its not planned to be available.
You say that as if it doesn't happen with our without any MGB trolling )))
If its not a who suffers the most its a "wHeN X CoMiNg?!?!"
Everything on dev is subject to change.
Not with this update at least.
Yes as we have already clarified. This is the correct and intended place for now.
I feel the need for people to stay on topic and not spam post please
Its best to create a suggestion topic for it if its something you want to see. That way, others can also leave there thoughts.
The new control scheme was done, as the primary weapon for these vehicles in general is the 30mm cannon. Both in terms of player use and game use. The newer control scheme is more convent in that respect.
As I have said, the best thing to do here is to create a suggestion topic with a poll, if its something you would like to see and then a majority will be clear.
We have already forwarded these topics. However a suggestion is the best way to show something.
Generally as I said, the new scheme was deemed to be the best way to have the most convenient control setup taking into account the features of the vehicles. So its unlikely to change.
No poll and was not really presenting it as a suggestion.
All of the people that asked for the M16 and M19 as well as those that also asked for the many others for Japan and other nations in order to better flesh their trees out, cover gaps and make a better all round line-up experience.
You may not agree with them, thats clear. But many other people asked for these and will apricate their additions.
Remove the vehciles of other nations from these 2 trees and you drastically weaken their Ranks I - IV in the case more of France and above that even more so Italy in many ranks.
Very unlikely before. As I said, It was changed based on whats actually being used the most in general by players of the vehicle to be the most convenient.
Guys, we have threads open where you can discuss this. This is not the topic.
Thread cleaned up.
There are open topics where you can discuss this guys as much as you want. This is not the place.
Can we just take a moment to process things are always in the files and its rather meaningless.
Check the title of the topic and then understand the context of the meaningless statement please:
Sorry to break your dreams.
The missile is still WIP, but we have not made any confirmation its going to any specific G limit.
That and I literally said a couple of days ago its not.
All we have said is they are WIP and still being worked on. We have not confirmed any G Limit.
Dev Blogs are exactly that, in development blogs. The content on the dev server is subject to change.
We have not made any final confirmation of a G Limit.
Dev Blogs are introductory articles to the details of the vehicle as it comes in. They are not final and not without change. Mike was using the details provided from the dev blog.
Both are not final confirmations. Plenty of things have changed in the past from dev blogs to release. Such as the JA 37 flares. Unless your suggesting we should also take those away?
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Please read what I actually said. They are in-development blogs. Everything on them is not 100% final and guaranteed not to change. If that was the case, the Viggen would never have got flares as we said "no countermesures".
If you have legitimate historical sources that clearly prove somethings incorrect, then feel free to post a bug report and the developers can check it over. However at the moment, you are claiming multiple primary Italian and German documents that all agree are wrong and posting nothing to solidify your claim.
This is not the place to have a opinionated debate. The G.91 is now correct as per the most authorative source materials.
Thats the total mass of the warhead. Not the actual explosive mass.
Feel free to submit a historical report with your evidence if you think its wrong and you have evidence.
You can read all of the explanations on the changes here: https://wiki.warthunder.com/Dynamics_of_War_Thunder_missiles
As I have said twice now, if you still think something is wrong. Feel free to submit your evidence in a Historical report. This is not a discussion topic about it.
This camo is generally more connected with the modernized F-8P. The camo we have in game for the moment is accurate for the French F-8E (FN). There is nothing incorrect about it.
Right now at least, its unlikely it will get a new camo. No doubt some of the creators on WT Live will make some additional camos which can sometimes find their way in game via the camo boxes.
A solid Soon™
One random 3rd party website is not really sufficient at all.
Again, if you get more sources, please feel free to submit a historical report. It doesn't need to be discussed in Rumour roundup every time someone finds a new one.
Red Top is currently being investigated source and materials wise. It's not linked to the addition of any other all aspect. Plus we have had an all aspect missile recently already with the existing one on the MIG-23.
Even with that, the MiG-23 is currently the worst performing jet in the 11.0 bracket.
AIM-9L is an entirely different and significantly better missile in terms of air-to-air combat for jets. It's not coming now.
And even with that missile, as I said, the MIG-23 is the worst performing 11.0 bracket aircraft.
Britain was the first to get PD radars last patch and the joint first of the Skyflash this patch. With the two best performing Phantoms in game and likely once again this patch.
Let's not make this into a "nah Russian bias" please.
After going a year between MIG-21s and a very long time between MIG-21s, leading behind most nations with Jet CAS options and also themselves having several long gaps between new technology developments in the last few years.
The Russian one is not the same as the British really.
And yes that's correct, Japan got one too. Joint first with Britain still and with Britian still having two of the best jets in game, getting even better this patch
Proving the point still that plenty of other nations have had firsts recently.
That's generally because at the same time Russia went through about 10-15 vehicles, those nations probably had 1-2 or stuck with the same aircraft and only made some slight modifications. Whilst in the process installing far more powerful missiles than anything else in game currently.
Until the next RR thread, please be sure to leave your feedback on the major in the relivant feedback discussion topic
See you in the next one!
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