[2022] Major Update: "Danger Zone" - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion

It has AIM-9B Sidewinders as mentioned in the blog.

So far only secondary sources that conflict from 1 report. No current changes.

Magics would require a higher BR. The Chinese premium is an A-5 platform. This is a Mirage III with even better performance.

Im sure Japanese mains will do that themselves without me ))

The Mirage IIIC with Magics is 10.3 because of that. This aircraft has even better flight performance and with Magics would be all round better. With AIM-9Bs, it has a more suited BR.

We are aware of player interest in the Jaguar M, but it isn't a copy paste as you claimed above. The Milan is a good candidate similar to other popular Premiums like the Draken A.

Adding Magics isn't going to improve its situation. Its going to make it simply face better all round aircraft that have more advanced missiles, countermeasures and more.

In its current configuration, its more suited to the level of other premiums and where its flight performance can be put to best use. Not to mention its solid CAS.

Existing bug reports don't conflict with content development. They are generally handled separately. Many reports have already been solved and those that currently have not thus far do not have fully conclusive materials. Thus need further review.

As far as I'm aware it never had them.

Naturally there is more to come of this update.

Once again, another easy marketing opportunity that proved the correct choice and lined up with our plans. A very popular pre-order ))

SPS-K is essentially a PFM and has to sacrifice its guns for flares. Magics are also superior to R-60s.

The Milan has better flight performance, better guns, considerably better mixed loadouts and we also have not said what its BR is yet.

No, just easy and logical marketing wins that align with our content roadmap.

It's not in any immediate plans.

3 sources were in the report that was forwarded.

The model is literally a case of a change of dome colour and some notches out of the fins that would not really even be seen. Thus it's a very low priority as it's not a major issue.

The quote was we do not base our content development around movies releases, which we dont. But if an opportunity comes up where our schedule roughly alligns with an easy marketing opportunity, it would be logical to take that.

A reminder that the film in question was due to come out in 2020 and as mighty as the snail is, we don't have the power to delay a movie 2 years just so we can line it up with our game development.

Perhaps not as comparatively big as the last two as they were new nation / new line updates. But it's already got a big kitty cat in it

Nope. Just the last two were naturally disproportionately bigger updates.

The German F-104G has AIM-9J because it used the missile in excercises and also has Countermeasures. So the combination of both suit it's BR.

The Milan does not have countermeasures like the Mirage IIIC (which is already 10.3) but with even better performance. Giving the Milan magics will require a higher BR than its currently planned to have and thus render that improved performance less comfortable than where it currently stands with AIM-9B.

Milan's mustache can be deployed in combat. They currently work like flaps.

Another addition:

Jaguar A and Jaguar GR.1A received new unique c*ckpit models.

There is no open report that its incorrect. Feel free to submit one.

Please report all bugs here: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/2183-dev-server-bug-reports/

You are welcome to submit a counter report with the document cover and full page: https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder

We accepted a properly constructed player report that met the conditions for a valid report with two secondary sources.

You claim thats incorrect and have not provided the document front cover or full page to prove where your excerpt is from. We cannot do anything with the image you have currently posted. As with the previous user who submitted a report correctly, which we actioned, you are free to submit a report with the source you claim is correct. Until then, we can do nothing with this image.

We welcome a bug report with said source as per the previous report that was correctly submitted. Currently we can do nothing with the image posted. We need the document cover and full page.

Tanks in game are classified by their game usage. Not IRL classifications. That's not new.

It has nothing to do with documentation.

They were created by an artist here on the forum a very long time ago

There is the possibility of a few more of course.

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There are a plethora of factors that come into what models can be done when and how. As we have said, we are working through many older aircraft models and over time more will be done.

The aircraft in question is also one of the first aircraft most new players see.

Right now we don't have any timeframe we can share, but we will try to include the question in a future Q and A.

Worth noting Japan has the fewest available/ viable vehciles left to add in terms of air/ground. Information difficulties and other restraints mean the vehicles they do have take some time and even then, it's generally less than almost all other nations.

Any suggestions already passed have already been sent. The changes are focused on cleaning up outdated topics that don't meet the current rules from long ago and making the sections clearer.

We follow suggestions closely and have implemented many. Sadly making a suggestion topic does not mean that the vehcile is possible to implement or that everything is available. Even a well made suggestion topic can take years to come to fruition.

Its not taken as whining at all. Its just the facts as they are from the developers

Please submit a report with any evidence and the direct values that should be changed: https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder

Guys, we are now going vastly out of the scope of this topic. As a gentle reminder, its about Danger Zone.

Tree projects / discussions can be taken here please: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/939-international-tech-tree-project-unofficial/

Several tanks in game could have this type of system, but do not yet. The Abrams also wont have it currently.

Not in this update.

Unless your suggesting we were going to add the F-14 in 2020, before we even had the MiG-23 or F-4J, I would recommend you rethink that.

The F-14 was always planned to come now. The fact Top Gun got delayed several times was just a coincidence that worked for us marketing wise

Yes for sure. Needs to be seen on the big screen.

Low tier premiums and particularly CAS support aircraft are popular. For newer players, its a solid choice.

You are absolutely not forced to buy it if you don't like it.

Im not sure what there really is to clarify. As its explained, it has different armour composition.

Su-17 M4 is added this update.

Profiles are generally not reset between dev servers. Unless there is a technical reason to do so.

Yes.

There is already an Ayanami (IJN) in the Bluewater fleet thats more suited to its place. The new one is a post-war vessel more suited to Costal.

Not on release. Subject to balancing reviews by the developers post launch.

Because they are now in BR logical order as we aim for as far as possible in all trees.

This is a known problem: Its autopilot needs to be re-configured. The missile first makes too much lead, then accelerates and tries to re-acquire targets with a smaller lead, which may cause a miss in some situations. The developers are investigating.

Its been reworked. The tank has no turret and relies entirely on its engine for movement. I'm not really sure how you are expecting to aim or move without an engine in a tank that uses it for all forms of aiming.

Its both historical and one of the main features of the tank. We have no plans to artificially buff this tank.

This has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. Your question was answered on the Strv 103. If you want to carry on discussing it, please use the correct area: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/1859-sweden/

Forwarded.

We don't have any more reports open on the F-14 radar that have not already been fixed.

Im not sure what exactly that has to do with the Strv 103 or this topic.

Has nothing to do with the Strv 103 question that has already been concluded. No need to go further off topic.

It seems so, some people cant use the correct sections.

Off topic cleared again.

No ROF changes are planned. According to the developers response on those currently forwarded reports, all is correct according to main firing cycle for early 3-gun turret.

All vehicles on the dev server are subject to changes before the update goes live.

Feedback on the current iteration has already been passed, which the devs will be reviewing next week. However if you suspect something is wrong, its safer to report it correctly too with any evidence and information you have.

Those dates are often placeholder / incomplete dates that mean nothing.

We do not rely on bug reports for the implementation of radar and have consultants and developers who work on them. If you believe something is incorrect, we welcome any reports with information on which to base changes on. Sadly we can do nothing with "radar implementation is pretty broken", no claims of something being incorrect with no evidence to show an issue.

A developer even provided more insight into the in-game implementation of AN/AWG-9 and AIM-54A: as recently as yesterday:

The devs dont use the dev server to develop or test new things. There are internal servers for that.

Dev server is used for the testing of minor updates also by Alpha testers and Tech Mods. At the moment, there have been no minors planned, so the dev server can remain open for longer.

Not for this major, which is all we can really comment on for now.

However as always, we don't exclude the possibility of new lower rank premiums in the future.

Devs comments:

They are still very much work in progress, so its too soon to say for certain at this time.

Its not in any current plans. If anyone finds any historical examples then we welcome suggestions.

As far as I'm aware, we don't have a report open on this.

All bug reports are handled on the site now. Duplication also doesn't help.

Please provide the link, it hasn't been forwarded yet and may require additional info.

If we have something to announce regarding a vehcile not yet officially shown, we will mention it in the notes or a Dev blog. As always, we can't comment on vehciles in the files until they are confirmed to be coming for sure.

The developers first want to check the statistics and review game balance to see how the landscape is before issuing new top missiles.

That would be a fake. As evident by the fact the stat card mentions the 88mm KwK43 of the Panther II we had in game when this fake model has a 75mm.

Someone probably just made a visual mod.

Not within this update. So its not relevant here.

No I'm not a consultant. I just happen to sometimes visit museums in the UK to collect photos of vehciles for the developers to use. But it's also inlcuded non British aircraft too like the F-4J and Mystere IV as well as others.

It's possible there is still one more )

Likely not no.

This really has nothing to do with this topic. Please use the naval section to discuss such matters.

It's not really anything to do with being "too strong" at this stage.

Currently the developers have plans and some further development they want to work on regarding aviation HUDs and other features too. But the suggestion (and feedback on the matter) is well known to the developers and has been passed again recently

Oh no, you stole my comeback

No but seriously, yes we always plan to improve upon our graphics. I can't give any spesific details about our future plans with regards to invidual things, but it's an ongoing goal.

Your report wasn't a bug but a suggestion. Feel free to make a suggestion in the appropriate area. But it's not a Dev server bug report.

Please be sure to check the suggestions guidelines to be sure your meeting the criteria.

Dovblog:

https://warthunder.com/en/news/7731/current/

Does it

What on earth happened

Guys, please avoid the politics. It has nothing to do with the game, topic or anything.

Those that do not follow warnings will be issued further escalatory measures based on the forum rules.

Please keep things on track.

Once again, making a suggestion topic is one thing. Actually having enough viable information to create a full 3D model, source all of the needed internal and external metrics, features, parameters and detail is a whole other matter.

This narrative of there being so many suggestions its irrelevant to what's actually A) Viable B) Possible.

Japan is getting two new vehicles this patch. Both unique modifications.

We do not dispute there are possibilities, and we are working to bring some of those to fruition as always. However it takes time and there is less overall than other nations in terms of viability.

Suggestions are a baseline level for a vehicle to even be considered. No suggestion topic has ever had enough information for a vehicle to be implemented from that alone. Factoring in you need all the references of measurement metrics, 3D views / drawings, details, armour / performance, internal (X-rays) and a multitude more.

If we raised the level of information required for suggestions to be enough to actually be the level required to implement something, nobody would be able to make them and it in itself would be unviable.

Regardless, this has nothing to do with this topic.

Japan has content coming this update.

Yes.

Nice try guys. No more denials today

Or we just don't sit here 24/7 when some of you guys go on a wild off topic 2 page rant. Grom already said ages ago a sub tree had nothing to do with this update.

Why we are suddenly talking about it for several pages is a mystery.

Your about 2 weeks too late my dude.

Surprisingly as you said, it will come out when the update does )))

Nope.

How many times have we denied a new nation / tree at this stage?

And again that strange PoV.

If we would consider any nation available in WT as "underworld country (what that even means? It's some kind of local insult?), we would simply not add it to WT.

Maybe eliminate the things we have already clearly denied several times then

Nobody is correct so far. Its going to be an interesting weekend

You can see all reports that have been forwarded here: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/2197-dev-actioned-bug-reports/page/2/

With regards to the reports made on the Phantom, yes they have been forwarded. We cannot give an ETA on any changes until we know for sure when they are coming.

Not this side of the major most likely.

We have had:

- Mirage when

- MiG-23 when

- Viggen when (enhance)

- Type 10 when

- Mirage when 2 - F.1 Boogaloo

- F-14 when

So the next chapter is waiting

No pre-order for this one, the 2 tank premiums or the other 2 premiums not yet shown officially.

They might not get blogs. Not all premiums or even vehicles do, but we will see. For sure I'm looking forward to one of them

We haven't even mentioned its in development.