[2021] Next major update - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion

Just a little bit of clarification on this, as these changes are in fact not Silver Lions.

They were in fact mission point reductions, which is used to calculate battle activity. This was done as ship to ship damage is now included in mission point and thus activity calculation, meaning vessels with slower RoF are now more meaningfully classed as "active" where they previously were not. Because of this, other activities that also count towards overall battle activity had to be reduced, otherwise overinflated activity would have occurred. These changes don't directly apply to reward

We have some reviews ongoing with HE at the moment in Naval Forces. Unfortunately thats all we can really say currently.

At the moment, I don't believe any further are planned. However it may well be expanded over time.

Certainly potential issues have been located with HE and shatter damage / effects. This has resulted in Destroyers being more enduring than intended, but with the refinement, it should be the middle ground.

She is a Beaut. Hopefully the slats will be resolved soonish.

We haven't said anything except for literally just when the Draken was first introduced last year and people first begin to immediately ask straight after. BVV mentioned it very briefly on the stream. We said it was too much back then and like all the long requested top jets it was just a matter of waiting.

So thats probably whats being referred too here.

The F-86 and MiG-15 (as well as most post war jets) are heavily inspired by the Me 262, among other German jets. It doesn't make them "copies" of the original. JH-7 also has practically nothing to with the MiG-23.

China has plenty of domestic aircraft ahead of it to come in the far future. But for now, we just had the J-7E and Q-5, both of which are domestic developments.

Lets try to keep this personal observations on who is more "domestic" into PMs please guys

This is really just proves the point even more. Everything is "inspired" by something. It doesn't make them a copy.

Both were and its very well know they had extensive inspiration from German jets, just the same as some Chinese aircraft took initial inspiration from Soviet designs before fully going their own way for many projects. All nations did this.

None the less, after just saying:

I don't see why this is still carrying on here when this is just personal opinions and interpretations being presented against fact. Take it to PM if yo

We have no confirmed information about the presence of an armor-piercing projectile for this gun and its parameters. Previously, the ammunition parameters were mistakenly used from another, much more powerful weapon. If the the correct documents are provided / located, the devs have said they would gladly consider them. All of the other changes were fully historical (RoF etc)

It was using entirely the wrong ammunition from another weapon entirely. It was a mistake to have it in any capacity.

I said we have no

confirmed

information about it being present for this aircraft / gun. Nobody has outright denied any existence.

Should it be presented, the situation can be re-reviewed.

Given the shell was more powerful than some present on modern day CAS aircraft cannons, thats not surprising ))

It was without doubt incorrect.

Simply enough information does not currently exist that the devs are aware of to support any AP round.

When any modifications are removed, it should refund return the GE if GE was used to purchase.

Unfortunately all there seems to be is mentions in text of bomb capacities. No actual photos of it armed, what the racks look like, where they are located or their effects on the aircraft are shown anywhere.

Therefor without sufficient evidence or info we cannot add any external presets as they appear to be paper mentions only and no actual details of the pylons, mounting points or the specific ordinance.

No such claims were made. We have said many times stuff being in the CDK / Files is meaningless. Skins / textures can often be some of the last things made. But it doesn't mean something textured gets immediately released unless its planned to come, if at all.

None of these say anything directly along the lines of what was claimed. As Grom said, posts have been misinterpreted and taken out of a previous context and tied to be applied to every context.

If you look at what we were actually responding too earlier, this was the claim:

Nowhere, in either of those posts of mine you posted was this stated. Nore has any Gaijin staff member claimed this. So yes, it was a baseless false claim.

A texture being ready does not mean it's coming soon or even fully ready. None of those previous posts claimed that.

They are personal interpretations and not actually what was said. Trying to apply it to every single case when we have said countless times a vehicle on the CDK is meaningless. No matter how "complete" you assume it to be.

Vehicles are also not introduced as soon as they are ready unless they were planned for that update which the Leopard 2A6 was.

As I said before, the claim we were responding too was "vehicles are introduced as soon as they are textured". Which as we have concluded already, is a false and made up claim as nobody has ever said that.

I am pretty sure this is not a proper place to discuss EULA/ToS.

If you have questions related to it, please visit our website, read it and if question stays, please contact — legal(at)gaijin.net.

Thats never been a valid metric for something in game. So we don't need to discuss this yet again here.

If you want to Wishlist, we have a Wishlist topic.

If you want to discuss MN, we have a whole area for that: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/1537-france/

Its too soon to be talking about any details yet. Its also not the place here

If it was, then it wouldn't have been brought up in the first place.

None the less, this wasn't an open invitation to carry on the discussion here after just saying to please use the correct places

Any further off-topic will be removed from this point.

One will be coming up shortly, but no direct ETA for now.

The downloading files option in the hanger only was restored on Friday. We have some known issues with it, but the devs are already working on them.

Given the current global situation, barely any over the past year

I have only been to the Shuttleworth Collection for Airshows, As well as the deHaviland Museum and Duxford purely for personal visits.

I have been to foreign museums, just not that far for me!

When there is, we will announce it.

There is nothing to "fix" there. The EULA has not changed since last year. Some people only just discovered it exists and are taking something out of context and trying to apply it to recent events.

We have left the contact to our legal team for those who want an offical statement / clarification from them on the EULA. But the notion that anything that has occured recently has lead to a rule change is simply false.

Nobody has been punished for doing what they have done since it was updated last year. So that should be very clear on what it means.

As has al

I'm on vacation at the moment. So no hints from me ))

Thank you!

I'll try but as we all know, this topic haunts your dreams with its very existence ))

Nothing new to add outside of what has already been said in developer Q and As.

Hmmmmm

Now you can go back )))

https://warthunder.com/en/news/7247-development-battle-pass-vehicles-a6m6c-en

Please stay safe guys. Remember we as a Community are always here.

Someone has already created a topic for those that want to leave their comments:

Tad too soon for any dream crushing of any kind just yet.

Don't worry, there is always time for plenty of it )))

Im not sure who that Smin is but it wasn't me or where that is taken from. But I have made no such statement about any event being "put on hold" or the Battle pass replacing anything.

Yeah no we didn't. It was just an error in the task template and will be fixed.

You know me too well good sir. It will be fixed soon )))

Something Japanese, Swedish, Italian and British on top of a French dedicated Battle Pass. Hopefully that covers most ))))

Next time do not use RU site via google translate, but check news on EN site

And denials ))))

We never say never any more, but yes, we don't plan on adding paper vehicles any more. That was clear from the removal of the KT 105, Panther II and Flak 341. Where vehicles have replacements, we will explore that option. Where they dont, they will likely remain. But we dont plan on adding new ones.

There is always the possibility of more, but nothing to talk about for now.

We don't accept suggestions for fully paper vehicles, regardless of the level of info:

To be clear we were talking about tanks and planes here, as for ships, the developers have already made our stance clear in past Q and As:

Yeah sure. It flies.

Allow me.

This is a "let me just write down all the things I saw recently, and then add some random vehicles for spice and claim leak" list.

Dont think it really needs to be said that most of the things on this list have been seen recently and as we have already said. Something being seen in the files / shown somewhere does not mean its coming soon.

We can always be safe )))

Off topic cleaned out.

Plenty of sections and topics on this forum to discuss matters of your opinion and what you want to see. This isn't one of them and no, making up a random rumour is not on topic.

You mean this exact topic you made yourself which hasn't been shut down at all and that I haven't even commented in, let alone shut down?

Or the other topics here? https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/836-ground-battles/

Or even here? https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/494-ground-forces-discussion/&ct=1628417059

Plenty of non shut down topics there and no reason at all to discuss it entirely off topic here. Lets stop derailing this one please.

We just had an expansion to 11.0 in the previous major update. Very unlikely we will see a further one anytime soon.

This is the subject of another topic entirely, not this one:

I have no idea what this means or is referring to.

We are at a solid Soon™

November

India

Echo

Tango

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Just because something gets spammed, doesn't mean we answer it.

Also you need to be careful when discussing anything like that, otherwise a group of people will spawn in and you suddenly get a lot of:

That's because we removed 2-3 pages worth of off topic spam on it alone.

Any off topic discussions are hidden as soon as we are made aware of them, regardless of what vehicles they are unless there is credible reason to discuss them (eg evidence).

In this case there was none at all and it was just wishlisting.

Off topic spam is off topic spam regardless and 2-3 pages is not "not really being spammed". "But they did it" more / first is not a justification. Everyone here knows the purpose of this topic by now.

There is no need of reason to even discuss this further as it's well known to both yourself and everyone else who is a reg

It was added as a limited event vehicle as the model was already complete at the time of the rule change. It was only received in limited numbers (far less than the removed KT 105, Panther II and Flak 341).

We don't plan any such vehicles currently again. So the J6K1 is not an indication of anything.

We don't allow the suggestion of paper vehicles and haven't for some time.

Oh cool. We are back to the "let's just pick a bunch of modern vehicles / step up vehicles from what's already in game and call it a leak" lists again.

Thats another one of my RR bingo card then.

I mean the "It's Fixed" series are classed as Dev blogs so in that case 100%

Please don't make sweeping statements you don't have any information or authority to confirm. Nothing has been put on hold.

Within the next millennia. Give or take.

Well depends on your definition of "today". "Today" day on Venus is about 116 days on earth )))

If I remember correctly, pretty much all of the bugs reported to us were fixed by the time the update went live or on day 1 / week 1.

No amount of Dev servers is ever going to fully eliminate the possibility of bugs unfortunately as they have occur during the transfer to the live server or many other ways.

Don't believe that was reported on the dev server but I might me wrong. Do you have a link to the report please?

Send me the link via PM and I'll check it out.

Doesn't really change the fact as I said most issues were fixed by release and additional Dev servers wouldn't have helped this at all, which was the original point being made.

2 Dev servers is a lot for an update.

Oh yes, very much so ))

Also because there is never nothing to not be excited for each update for me as someone who plays a bit of everything.

There is generally always something for everyone

I've found it in your content, but it was not reported at all because it didn't follow the guidelines for reports and didn't meet the basic criteria. Hence why it wasn't approved.

So it hasn't been 75 days since you bug reported it, because it wasn't reported properly in the first place. None the less, we will review the matter and forward to the Devs if necessary.

Please check again into what I said, because nobody said your report wasn't even looked at. Your report was looked at and reviewed. We check each and every single thing posted. That's how it came to be not approved because it didn't meet the basic criteria we ask for. The general requirements are not strict at all. They have been shaped and adapted over time based of the feedback of those that use the report system regularly and now, we have the most basic and easy to follow system we have ever had on the .com forum with an automatically generated template so that there can be no confusion or

We haven't even had a single blog yet.

Please don't give out fake numbers. A jokes a joke but this is going a bit far now. Enough off topic.

I wasn't referring to anything because thats not an actual conversation with me, if that wasn't already clear somehow.

True, except a Community Manager is not going to give out his actual phone number to a random person and start answering questions about War Thunder. Not to mention the fact, I know I like the Sea Fury, but why would my Whatsapp profile pic also be the same as my forum? And why would someone who has my literal phone number still call me Smin?

If that didn't ring any alarm bells, I really cant help much more there.

Come on guys. Lets actually be somewhat grounded here and not spam pure junk.

Dovblog is come

https://warthunder.com/en/news/7283/current/

Faste Swedish taxi cab go zooom ))

Indeed it's a nice little tonk.

....yes.... )))

We have had exactly 1 Dev blog. I don't know why these sort of questions are coming already. You guys know how this works by now.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Guys why are we discussing Bismark and other such battleships right now?

Please take it to the Naval section or Wishlist topic. Here is not the place.

As we have already said, stuff being found in the files and CDK is meaningless. Some may never come to the game, some may be years. None of it was indicative of the coming update and its not a reason to sustain a discussion here when there are more relevant areas.

You can look back at the many other vehicles that have historically been in the CDK or files for years in some cases.

Not everything makes it to the game for many, many reasons.

Tirpitz, Yamato and many others have been in game for years. They are AI ship models. Again, this does not equate.

We have been correcting people all the time on this. Literally the Mirage discussion the other day and many others before that. We might miss some sometimes, but we also don't sit in this singular topic 24/7 )))

2 for 1 today ))

https://warthunder.com/en/news/7284-development-new-top-tier-ztz99-iii-and-pre-order-for-a-5c-en

You got two in one devblog, what else you want?

A plane and a tank = "is that all?"

You will need to tell it to the two sad guys I have send for you in black Volga.

Noted. We will change future DBs to something less interesting for you.

Just a reminder that in shop we always (more or less) have additional screens with machines. It's same for A-5C

Right now it as the Pakistan air force and the default and the pre-order camo is for the Sudan air force.

There are already 2 Chinese variants in the tree for now. There are also several better air to air aircaft in the Chinese tree already and in terms of air to ground, there is the F-5A with even more loadouts.

Too early to discuss BRs right now.

This is incorrect.

The Mirage IIIE was always planned as was the Mars 15, both were just running a bit late. Nowhere was it said France was going to get absolutely nothing that patch. Only that perhaps not everything would make it. Nowhere did I say "nothing is planned for France this patch"

Has nothing to do with pushing the Mars and Mirage up the priority list, as they were already planned to come. Community feedback added the Sk 105 to the list on top of those 2 already planned.

Please do not create false statements from me.

Things being in the files is rather meaningless as we have already discussed several times here. It's no indication what's coming in the next patch and no justification to start discussing here what can be discussed in more appropriate places just because some feel they want too here.

France has has the Magic open to everyone in the tree for over a year now.

Like almost everyone else, it exported it's weponary and other nations purchased it. Just like how almost everyone has Sidewinders.

Because as we have already made clear, they do not.

Something being found in the CDK is not an indication it's coming next patch. Especially since we have had some of the battleship models discussed in game for years as AI ships.

There are plenty of more appropriate topics to discuss those in. This isn't one of them.

That's rather meaningless?

They are open in the tree for everyone to use.

As far as I'm aware, not enough information at the moment on them on the Q-5B spesifically.

Its not forbidden when there is sufficient evidence. In the case of the F-5C, we practically confirmed it was coming next patch.

Meanwhile nowhere is there any indication at all Bismarck of any of the other ships that were being discussed are coming just bevsuse they are in the files.

There's a clear logical difference here.