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Guys, your personal debates and discussions can be taken to PM. That is after all what they are for.
Guys, your personal debates and discussions can be taken to PM. That is after all what they are for.
Just the usual clarification, as it will no doubt be asked several times.
Not everything will be shown on the Dev streams.
Meanwhile there are also those asking us to add 3, 5 or 10 variants of some vehicles.
Everyone has their own opinion and wants and everyone is different. It's about finding the best middle ground that pleases the most number of players possible.
A-7E has not come "instead" of something else. It was planned for this patch.
We have made no comment about the F-105, so I'm not sure where this comes from.
As you can see by the response I was referring to the Buccaneer and MIG-27.
I did not say that's the reason the F-105 has not been introduced.
Please don't twist the context. We have not made any comment on the F-105 and it has nothing to do with the A-7E.
Not currently in this update.
France's content this update is centered around the modernization of the Jaguar and the requested tech tree EBR.
Submit a report to be on the safe side. It's too early to clarify at this stage as everything is still very much WIP.
The EBR 51 is a vehicle you and others were directly asking for.
Indeed constructive feedback and discussion is beneficial.
Rants and ridiculous notions of "delete France from the game" however don't.
We don't only add suggested aircraft, we also work to implement many key variants and important steps in each progression tree. Again, the A-7E did not come in place of something else. It was always planned to come.
It was not taken seriously, but the point was, it also does not help any concerns raised at the same time by those to be taken seriously.
Right now its still too early, its very much WIP.
We are always working on new vehicles for all nations. France is no exception.
The claim was that we do not listen, the EBR is something you and others directly asked for.
I never claimed you did.
America has a new top tier aircraft in the A-7E.
As we have already said, the modernization of the Jaguar weaponry and requested EBR are the focus for France this patch.
Some vehicles have to be premium and for minor nations to have event vehicles in the first place, they have to be useful and interesting. The two EBRs fit this role perfectly and as we said, a tree version was also planned.
This is the rumour roundup, not a feedback topic:
Russia is a significantly more popular nation, with many vehicles in high demand and interest for the community as a whole.
Comparing France to Russia in game is rather meaningless. Its easier to research, create and add Russian vehicles, they are more popular with the playerbase and appeal to more people and in general have a wider range of machinery to add.
We do not go into details about anything in development generally until there is something solid we can say and that applies to everything.
This patch, as I said, the focus was on the many new toys and systems on the Jaguar, which offer a significant CAS boost. Other vehicles are in development for France for future updates.
AIM-9L and R-60M are not remotely comparable or the same.
Constructive feedback has and will always yield better results than rants, sarcasm and general unconstructive negativity. There have been lots of examples of which, such as the Jaguar Flare pod and many other improvements that have happened over time as well as the addition of requested vehicles like the EBR and Mystere IV.
Ranting and raging is going to get anyone absolutely nowhere and is only more likely for any other posts of theirs just to be taken less seriously.
The USA already has some of the top performing fighter aircraft in the current meta and the A-7E will be equally as competitive for ground RB too.
There is nothing constructive about spamming the same thing over and over.
Some did, however quite a lot of the community was also constructive about it too and a good discussion was had. Thats why the changes were introduced. Not due to a smaller group of people shouting in this topic, as pretty much happens every update.
It hasn't come early. We always have 3 majors in the last few months of the year and one of the 3 is generally always a smaller content patch with features.
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Quite what relevance that has I'm not sure.
If you have supporting evidence of it in use with the GDR on the SPS-K, please submit a report with evidence.
1 more. We just had Direct Hit.
Red Tops work differently to pretty much any other limited all aspect missile and require their own unique review and development, which takes more time.
Right now we dont have any plans in the current patch at least to add more.
Nothing to share now, but not everything has been shown on the dev server.
I still have the F-104G, F-4F and MiG-21MF to research for Germany, so ill probably give the MiG-21 SPS-K a shot. Im just about to unlock the JA 37 so ill be going for the AJ 37 too.
But most importantly, not everything has been shown just yet
With the JA 37C coming last update, there is very little upward movement for Sweden now for some time. So its more logical to start with the AJ 37 for now.
Maybe the planes just wanted to move
Yes.
To clarify that's not what was said. Its never been a case of if its ready, it releases right away, no matter what. There are many factors in play. Often things are planned to be released when they are ready without waiting, however its not the case that everything that is ready is released immediately.
As for vehicles that were found in the files, because something appears to have a 3D model, it also does not mean it is fully complete and ready for the game. Everything is generally scheduled and planned.
Yes, pretty much. As we have already said now, the main focus for France was the many new loadouts for the Jag and the tree EBR.
There are no plans for a new one. Lots of nations now dont have store Helicopter packs. Sometimes they return for GE. But there wont be a new one for the store.
There is no possibility they would be coming to France. They have no place or reason to be there.
Yes
They were based off the Puma originally by design (which even itself was produced and improved locally as the Oryx), but developed locally and weaponry being used is not a claim to a tree. By the same logic everything with Sidewinders or 50.cal Browings needs to go in the US tree because its American weaponry.
Almost all vehicles take inspiration or a base from a previous vehicle, sometimes not of the same nation. It does not mean the "inspiration" is a claim to belonging to another nation. Even more so when we already have a clear home for the majority of South African vehicles.
France has its own domestic helicopters and has no reason to take South African ones in game. Thats the end of the discussion here.
Indeed. Its already been clarified in a previous Q and A where they would go if they ever came. But there is nothing this patch.
We already have a South African subbranch in a nation in game and have already clarified where South African helicopters would go if they ever came to the game.
Political affiliation has never been used as a reason at all. Its based on the needs of each nation and the most logical home for each case when a tree does not already have a clear subtree or an exception to this case for events (Class 3P).
Again, this has no relation to the topic here, has been answered and cleared up (again) and can be taken elsewhere.
Nothing to do with the current upcoming update.
This is now wholly off topic and entirely irrelevant to this topic. After asking twice now, there wont be a 3rd warning.
South African helicopters were answered in a developer Q and A and its been made very clear where they will go and why now.
Just to be clear, the existing Jaguar GR.1 wont be getting this mod. Its a error at the moment and will be corrected. The standard GR.1 could not use them.
The discussion was not restarted. My role as a CM is to provide the statement to close it and clarify it if the developer Q and A was not already clear enough.
Its now been fully clarified and answered properly with a clear understanding of where they would go, if they were ever to come to the game
The only off topic part has been the restarting comments from yourself and others.
Not when we provide a closing answer on a question and 2 separate warnings to go back on topic. Its very clear in the forum rules.
My answer was 28 minutes after yours. Unfortunately we cannot be on the forum 24/7 and it is actually our job to clarify and answer things so misinformed answers are not spread. Again, its my role as a CM to provide such answers. The case was then closed. You took it upon yourself to keep going after this as if it was a debate, when it was not. Its the facts as they are. Your final last word is not necessary. The answer was provided and that's that.
You choosing to keep going after warnings is not a restarted discussion, its your clear choice knowing full well the end result. Please take this as a final verbal warning:
Its development is not tied to any major update. If/When we have more news to share on it. We will.
Not in this update.
I mean sure if you really want one:
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Coming soon basically every week, Tuesdays!
I wasn't aware Switzerland had a space program. But thanks, I'll check it out ))
Guys, if you want to keep discussing F-14/16 and MiG-29 etc, you can do so elsewhere. It has no place here and nothing to do with the next update.
Let's not go there again. I don't wanna have to go down the whole "things being in the files are meaningless" thing. It's just a meme at this point.
Again, some weponary and pylons sit in the CDK for years. Don't take it as it's coming super soon in every case or even at all.
We can't comment on something theoretical like a nation not yet in game until it becomes a reality if it ever even does when decided by th developers.
How do you think Nigel got his license?
Of course.
PC and Xbox on launch. PS a little later.
That was not released until the launch of the tree into CBT. Right now we are getting just 2 aircraft early access. Like was the case with Sweden.
Historical accuracy still has its place for loadouts, but this isn't a new change. The SRAAMs on the Harrier, AIM-9Js on the F-4F and F-104S. F-5s countermeasures and also now with the MiG-21SPS having upgrades that were possible to fit. None of these are new and all of them are grounded in the technical ability to do so. Unless for example a specific variant is selected with intention for a specific balance need.
You and everyone else are always welcome to make suggestions with grounding of said possibilities and evidence, but the final call lies with the developers as always.
As I just explained suggestions are and have been considered. But the final call will always be with the developers. I was referring to the previous post that mentioned a "right to demand". There is a difference between a suggestion and a demand.
Unfortunately vehicle development in history wasn't consistent and made with a video game in mind.
It most likely wont be before the next major. More data will need to be gathered for Naval also in this case, as it was a significant change to the game mode that will need the dust to settle to review how things stand.
PC and Xbox on release, PlayStation will follow afterwards.
Ive had a few back in the days before I joined ))
Germany will not be separated into two trees. Its necessary for them to remain together.
There wont be a pre-order for these. When the update goes live, they will be available on PC and Xbox platforms, with Playstation to follow afterwards.
Indeed, it was fun to just sit back and
Plans change. Im not really sure what sort of answer you were expecting here. A good solution has been found to incorporate them as an in game nation.
All nations will always have vehicles to add. It doesn't stop new nations or content from being introduced for others to also enjoy. All nations will continue to get vehicles.
Not planned. They are to remain with the UK tree to fill many gaps. As was always the plan.
The overwing pylons were for the spesific purpose of clearing them off the underwing stores. We currently don't have any evidence of 4 being mounted. If some is located, we can pass it for consideration.
Good thing they are not. As we said, the replacements will come later in a future update(s). This isn't one of them
And if it wasn't unique, then an entirely different set of people would be upset that it's a copy paste. There is no win for everyone every time unfortunately.
Aircraft is still WIP and it's loadouts are not fully final. Beyond that I'm afraid we can't confirm anything else at the moment.
That's the Jaguar International and those appear to be Magics with different pylons entirely. But we will forward it for clarification none the less.
We added the P-39 and most people were not interested.
Not with Magics. That was only the Jaguar international. But the 4 missile capability is still unclear.
We have already said it will get one in time. Not this patch. Theres no new jet for it to research anyway this patch.
An update on this. The developers have concerns this was just done for the museum. Several on display show 4 but this may just be for display. Further evidence is needed.
This is the Jaguar international. A different variant. Not the GR.1A/B.
British GR.1As were used in the marketing for the International. It's still the international program.
More information will be shown when the time comes. As we have already said, they wont start from Rank I. So it will be the best way for the nations vehicles to be implemented.
This is not how things work and this is also off topic. As we have made clear, it wont impact the development of other nations vehicles and our existing plans.
These loadouts wont be coming to the GR.1. Only the GR.1A.
Neither of those have any possibility of coming this patch.
It has nothing to do with being too modern. The US gets the A-7E this update. No F-4s were planned or will come this patch.
Perhaps because one is an attacker and the other a top fighter? Comparing what one nation gets in a patch to another is meaningless.
Dont have any information on it. I would recommend submitting a historical report with your evidence if you believe it should have it.
Most of the Soviet/Russian tanks you are referring to already had the Dozer as part of the model.
Meanwhile whilst the Chieftain may share the same Dozer with several tanks, it still needs to then be added and configured to each and every one in the correct way.
Not with this update.
He hasn't forgotten )
Just as he said it will be on release. We are not doing pre orders on these so it isn't possible to issue yet.
You cant buy them now. The packs go live with the update (For Xbox and PC, PS later).
It was added nearly a year ago and at the time was ready to go for France. A GE alternative jet to the Vautour was not a bad thing.
Same as with all the previous pre-release packs. For those that want to start playing them now and crew levelling.
Most other nations already had premiums. Nobody was forced to purchase it if you don't want to. Having another level of choice for a premium is not a bad thing.
Not necessarily in the next update, but as grom said, they will be replaced. The who/what/when/where is to early right now.
Its not part of the changes this update. The report remains open.
Subject to balance and developer decision.
Hear! Hear! IDF tech tree officially announced! :P
2. Nothing was found that showed it had the capability to carry 4.
The update is not tomorrow.
Nothing we can share right now. All attention is on the major.
Again. If we have something to share on it. We will do so via an announcement. Not in a random topic.
No. Lockdowns didn't impact us much last year either.
At least to my knowledge, it's not planned for that Spitfire. But those perfect rockets will be worse than the ones it has already.
Feel free to submit a historical report and we can pass it to the Devs to consider as a suggestion.
I think Granby enthusiasts will be content ))
Comparing Russia to Japan is a pretty bad example as Russia has far more jets than Japan to add. As for Sweden, they are now pretty much the same as Japan now in that they have most of their top aircaft for the current generation and won't get anything better for some time.
We are indeed working on new content for Japan, but it's not this update. The EJ Kai was a fairly substantial addition last patch and can receive upgrades over time to it's weponary.
Type 74 variants and the ST-A3 were some of the most consistent suggestions we had since the launch of the tree.
They were definitely asked for.
Can't forget the Pink Lynx for the whole gang ))
M47 helps to gap fill and the SPAAGs also came from player suggestions. Japan doesn't have many options when it comes to SPAAGs we can practically add.
There is no delay to the event or update.
Not with the current update, thats for sure.
Simply a bug. It was removed from the ALTIS pod as it didn't have it, but also came off the TIALD pod too by consequence. Its been restored already.
Devs have been flat out working on the major and bugfixes for that. We haven't had any minor updates this week.
Suggestions are always welcome. Right now at least its not planned.