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| 0s | hello everyone and welcome to the first |
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| 3s | episode of deconstructing de it's a |
| 5s | monthly podcast hosted by a community |
| 7s | manager Megan Everett and it dives into |
| 10s | the many people that shaped warframe my |
| 12s | name's Marcus Kretz on the podcast |
| 14s | producer and editor Plus community |
| 16s | coordinator at Digital Extremes on this |
| 18s | episode megan sits down with 3d |
| 20s | character artist michael skier's and |
| 22s | weapons artist as Adams to discuss ten |
| 24s | Oh gem it's a program dedicated to |
| 26s | adding user generated art to working on |
| 29s | the podcast each month we aim to bring |
| 32s | more knowledge to our community on just |
| 34s | how warframes made we want to give you |
| 36s | some behind-the-scenes stories and |
| 37s | different looks at the things you might |
| 38s | never get to hear about otherwise so |
| 41s | hang out have a cup of coffee and enjoy |
| 45s | your first episode |
| 48s | [Music] |
| 60s | welcome to the podcast as Marcus said |
| 62s | I'm here with Kaz and skier's I am on |
| 71s | the weapons team and I'm skier's I'm on |
| 78s | the character art team and also |
| 80s | attending supervisor Oh double titles |
| 86s | artist and supervisor so I don't know if |
| 88s | those aside I'll take it it's fine so |
| 92s | the main part of we'll talk about is |
| 94s | China Jen because that is such a huge |
| 95s | part of warframe what will obviously |
| 97s | probably banter off into other things |
| 98s | essentially how did you guys kind of |
| 101s | fall into the ten Oh Jen a program I was |
| 104s | actually hired onto the team at de |
| 106s | through ten Oh Jen basically my |
| 108s | portfolio it wasn't quite on style with |
| 111s | warframe but once they opened up ten Oh |
| 114s | Jen program I saw an opportunity to try |
| 117s | and learn the pipeline and all that so |
| 119s | channel Jen was great for leading me to |
| 123s | that point and that's when Carrie |
| 125s | decided to approach me about being hired |
| 127s | so that was really Carrie black yep |
| 130s | what was the first ten Oh Joan item that |
| 131s | you did Excalibur Artorius helmet oh yes |
| 135s | yeah yeah brain I think it was in like |
| 137s | the first round I kind of piggybacked |
| 141s | off Kass Kass came to the studio we |
| 144s | became friends and I was talking we were |
| 147s | talking about the whole ten Oh Jen thing |
| 148s | and she was like really overwhelmed |
| 150s | there's a lot of work to do by yourself |
| 151s | and like needed I thought like we should |
| 155s | have a character artist on the team and |
| 159s | I was like yeah so I wanted to help out |
| 161s | and over time like she showed me the |
| 163s | ropes mm-hmm and yeah now we've been |
| 167s | doing it for how long I don't remember |
| 169s | the two years mm-hmm yeah I'm gonna year |
| 174s | and a half-ish yeah I just put it there |
| 176s | yeah yeah so Kaz how do you contribute |
| 180s | to the program overall now like you like |
| 183s | you said supervisor what does that mean |
| 185s | we look over all the pieces in |
| 189s | program is a as a group and we make all |
| 192s | the judgments together me and sky isn't |
| 195s | Taylor I'll do that and then scars and I |
| 198s | bring all of the pieces into the engine |
| 201s | and we have to look through all the |
| 203s | files make sure they're all named |
| 205s | correctly make sure that they're all set |
| 207s | up correctly |
| 208s | skyress is making a face that you cannot |
| 210s | see discomfort I don't know what that |
| 213s | faces it's a lot yeah when people work |
| 216s | off-site and don't have access to the |
| 218s | engine it's really hard to guess what |
| 221s | they need to do for the pieces to look |
| 223s | right in the game we have to guide that |
| 226s | whole process and that's kind of where |
| 229s | the supervisor thing yes and we're kind |
| 231s | of like |
| 233s | well I see sometimes when you guys have |
| 236s | that meeting and you're in that meeting |
| 238s | for almost the entire evening around 15 |
| 242s | was the meeting 130 130 yeah and then |
| 259s | [Music] |
| 264s | I've seen like Taylor get like three |
| 267s | cups of coffee like three different |
| 269s | trips for coffee and like all that poor |
| 271s | girl I kind of like everything else here |
| 276s | at de we kind of got a backlog because |
| 278s | you had some major updates coming out |
| 281s | so since round 14 which I think was |
| 285s | November we hadn't looked at anything |
| 288s | that was made up until January right |
| 290s | it's getting more and more popular which |
| 293s | is great because we're getting like |
| 294s | different styles and competition breeds |
| 298s | yeah more better I don't know but yeah |
| 305s | it's been it's been really good like a |
| 306s | lot of different styles yeah new people |
| 310s | too and was great as some of the new |
| 312s | people we've reached out it's like |
| 314s | there's always a risk like that we get |
| 315s | we get feedback and are they gonna do it |
| 317s | or not |
| 318s | we already have this list and it's been |
| 320s | good for the most part some of the new |
| 322s | people they've been really receptive to |
| 323s | the feedback and like their first try |
| 325s | they got it yeah cool mm-hmm I know from |
| 328s | someone like on the outside perspective |
| 330s | of it it's I get really excited when I |
| 333s | see obviously I'm more of the I see the |
| 335s | final product I see what's going in it's |
| 336s | in my patch notes I write it up |
| 338s | but seeing like new names or even seeing |
| 340s | stuff that people have collaborated on |
| 343s | when I see collabs I get so excited I'm |
| 344s | like yes teamwork I was I get it guys |
| 346s | get that teamwork is that like more |
| 349s | popular now people collabing yeah we're |
| 352s | seeing a lot of people because to be to |
| 355s | do everything by yourself |
| 357s | it's hard right that's why I like our |
| 359s | Studios grown to where it is so we're |
| 360s | seeing people team up with designers so |
| 363s | designers team up with the 3d artists |
| 365s | and they'll work together and create |
| 367s | something beautiful sometimes I know for |
| 370s | me I struggle with design a bit or a lot |
| 373s | as an artist that's quite I'm very |
| 378s | comfortable like doing like |
| 379s | quote-unquote production side of things |
| 381s | yeah so having when I get a good concept |
| 384s | makes my life yeah Abdo it all do you |
| 394s | remember a time during the Tenno gem |
| 396s | program where it was like a highlight |
| 397s | for you like something you always kind |
| 399s | of remember within doing the program |
| 400s | well for me it's more like a general |
| 402s | thing whenever we give like the right |
| 405s | type of feedback for someone to get |
| 407s | their work in and to kind of bring their |
| 411s | skill level up just with like a |
| 413s | directional kind of feedback and not |
| 416s | like a prescriptive kind of feedback hmm |
| 418s | like that kind of thing it is always |
| 421s | really rewarding to me yeah for me I'm |
| 424s | still getting used to working on a game |
| 426s | that updates and like we got feedback it |
| 431s | was really cool last year's Tenno con to |
| 434s | meet like some of the artists that |
| 436s | contribute we look at their work and it |
| 438s | was really cool to like put faces names |
| 439s | names to faces so that was really cool |
| 443s | and like everyone's pretty like super |
| 445s | nice and it was cool to make some you |
| 448s | know inside jokes about some of this |
| 449s | stuff yeah I think that was really cool |
| 450s | it's like |
| 451s | the people that make this stuff for us |
| 453s | yeah when we first met caz you know we |
| 455s | had obviously had an online relationship |
| 457s | where you see your art and stuff like |
| 459s | that and then she comes to the studio |
| 460s | I'm like it's cast like we finally get |
| 462s | to meet you in person and do you |
| 466s | remember my dad and I went to the wrong |
| 468s | location yes you went to the old-looking |
| 470s | yeah we were yeah did she get lost in |
| 473s | the small town of London Ontario I'm |
| 479s | even worried like when people come to |
| 481s | town Oh con they're gonna get lost or |
| 483s | they'll get stuck somewhere like I know |
| 486s | when I went even like I said I've been |
| 488s | in London my entire life you want to go |
| 489s | to Toronto I get lost I go down one-way |
| 492s | streets going the wrong way now that I'm |
| 493s | a bad driver but in Toronto I come from |
| 496s | the totally opposite in a wetlands |
| 503s | forests it sounds like a movie title to |
| 506s | walk two miles through snow to get to |
| 508s | school so you're from |
| 510s | it was Michigan you're from yeah near |
| 512s | Michigan yeah in Michigan is Michigan a |
| 514s | wetland am i learning new geography |
| 517s | rounded by lakes and there's tons of |
| 520s | lakes in it so it's got a really high |
| 523s | water table a lot of muddy areas and |
| 527s | stuff Wow I pictured Michigan not that |
| 531s | the sky is as squinty I heard mosquitos |
| 534s | and I like trigger other than ten Odin |
| 541s | here at two extremes what are some of |
| 544s | the other things that you have worked on |
| 546s | because I know skier's you are working |
| 548s | currently or sorry you worked on Quora |
| 550s | yes and Kaz I know you're currently |
| 553s | working on a skin of some sort I know I |
| 557s | was just being goes teasing skyress is |
| 564s | worked on Quora yes talk about that what |
| 567s | was what was your inspiration for Korra |
| 568s | would you always wanna make a cat lady I |
| 569s | feel like it's coming to anime like |
| 571s | originally there is nothing to do with |
| 573s | cats really I'm Scott he was like she's |
| 576s | gonna have a cat I was like yeah |
| 577s | actually it wasn't even going to be |
| 579s | I don't know can I talk yes you |
| 580s | absolutely yes it wasn't even going to |
| 581s | be a cat was gonna be like some kind of |
| 584s | beast using this is a new car break and |
| 587s | I was like can it just be a kebab and |
| 589s | then a bench so it was gonna be more |
| 591s | like corpus II so who's gonna be like a |
| 594s | more a bigger more robotic was gonna be |
| 598s | something I guess new yeah but instead |
| 601s | of Inari like an yeah as an ally kind of |
| 603s | thing then I was like can I just be I |
| 606s | can't yeah my original idea for it was |
| 608s | to be very spider like and be kind of |
| 611s | like lovechild between Rhino and Volvo |
| 614s | chipped like defensive support character |
| 618s | I'm using like giving people armor and |
| 621s | whatnot and stuff like that and then her |
| 623s | changing would be augmenting her |
| 625s | abilities in different ways to give |
| 627s | different buffs or have damage mm-hm |
| 629s | and then through the wonderful process |
| 632s | of game development she became she |
| 634s | changes yeah she got to keep her whip |
| 637s | which was cool and she got to keep her |
| 638s | spikes which is always a part of my |
| 640s | original idea but I think what's really |
| 653s | great is that now that all the changes |
| 657s | are done people are really finding a |
| 658s | place for her and I've seen her on some |
| 661s | people's lists for like getting a B+ I'm |
| 664s | happy a passing grade yeah yeah passing |
| 669s | grade I got those grades I pass well I |
| 673s | mean that's more than the passing grade |
| 675s | sorry yes I didn't mean to put her down |
| 682s | yeah it was a huge learning process for |
| 686s | me was she's kind of the first cuz like |
| 689s | obviously you're an artist so you have |
| 691s | many inspirations and such but was she |
| 692s | like the first would you consider her a |
| 694s | frame that you have designed yes yeah |
| 697s | but the first frame that I worked on was |
| 699s | a while ago but it was Ibara |
| 701s | I had nothing to do with her power is |
| 703s | nothing but I just had to |
| 704s | I got a concept from art director and he |
| 707s | kind of like just help me a tiny bit and |
| 711s | like wanted me to like figure it out |
| 713s | myself |
| 713s | hmmm which was a mind-bending process |
| 716s | and then I was like okay people like how |
| 719s | she looks that's right over the years I |
| 721s | was working on idea for korra in the |
| 722s | background on and off and then i feel |
| 724s | pretty proud of how she turned out |
| 726s | visually even went through all the |
| 728s | changes and stuff and all the community |
| 731s | feedback everybody said she looked great |
| 737s | yeah so he said the spikes and the whip |
| 740s | pretty much stayed what do you recall |
| 743s | what she looked like |
| 744s | conceptually I know you said spider and |
| 746s | she's not spider but do you know any |
| 748s | like what's the big difference |
| 749s | aesthetically she didn't look like she |
| 751s | was from war first really was what was |
| 754s | she more like organic it was to armory |
| 757s | okay to like medieval maybe yeah my |
| 760s | inspirations too because I was like I |
| 761s | want her to have spikes I was like oh |
| 763s | let me look at an Iron Maiden and I have |
| 765s | drawings where the Hat her head is in |
| 768s | that kind of Iron Maiden shape and then |
| 770s | I was like okay let me look at fashion I |
| 772s | was like okay all this stuff is really |
| 774s | bulky but I tried to incorporate that |
| 776s | and then slowly like I slimmed it down |
| 778s | and then like played with her |
| 780s | proportions to make her more like |
| 782s | bug-like and I think when I did that is |
| 785s | when it really started to work yeah so |
| 789s | from conception of a more spider themed |
| 792s | frame to when she launched how long was |
| 795s | that like a year like what are we |
| 797s | talking long time like the first like |
| 800s | the her first being in my head |
| 803s | yeah it was three four years ago yeah so |
| 806s | I pitched her probably in January and |
| 807s | then by August they were like okay we're |
| 810s | interested in like picking this up and |
| 812s | then worked on her from between August |
| 816s | some other things came in to break and |
| 818s | finished her around late November early |
| 820s | December and then the rest was out of my |
| 824s | hand yeah |
| 825s | oh yeah I finished her probably in |
| 828s | October and then they were like she |
| 830s | needs a pack and I was like okay it |
| 833s | would be this many years to make her let |
| 834s | me figure out how to make a path |
| 836s | but it worked out it was great no of |
| 839s | course great you did a great job thank |
| 841s | you and again one of the rewarding |
| 843s | things that I love seeing from the |
| 844s | community side is all the fan art I know |
| 846s | I send you every single piece of core |
| 848s | fan art I can find I always send to you |
| 850s | it's yeah yeah it totally does it truly |
| 858s | is so cause you have been working on |
| 860s | something and you said we've shown it it |
| 862s | is the Limbo deluxe Oh talk to me about |
| 866s | a little bit of the inspiration behind |
| 867s | the Limbo deluxe well the very first |
| 870s | design came from a bear actually he drew |
| 875s | it for minky I think the first 10 Oh |
| 879s | Connie gave it to him so 3 years ago |
| 882s | then well more than 3 years ago yeah and |
| 885s | I remember I was at the first channel |
| 887s | con with him and I was helping him |
| 889s | decide like what the shapes of shoulders |
| 892s | should be and like some balance things |
| 894s | and stuff while he was drawing that so |
| 896s | like when I saw it on Mickey's desk I |
| 899s | was like yeah and then rank you up |
| 903s | shortly after I joined the team he |
| 910s | passed the task on to me and I was like |
| 913s | this is awesome because I kind of |
| 916s | already helped him in a way right so now |
| 919s | I get to take this concept and complete |
| 921s | it but the task that minke gave me had a |
| 926s | little bit more progress on it I mean he |
| 928s | thought it would be cool to add some |
| 930s | inspiration from sentient eyes mm-hmm |
| 933s | because bears concept had like eyeballs |
| 936s | all over it but they were literal eye |
| 937s | mafia so when Keith was like well |
| 940s | sentient eyeballs would work so then I |
| 942s | took that idea and ran with it and just |
| 944s | went full sentient yes I love the |
| 947s | sentient style and just decided that if |
| 950s | I'm going to do it I may as well just |
| 951s | push it all the way I can it ended up |
| 954s | with some really interesting shapes and |
| 957s | stuff mm-hmm |
| 958s | so now I'm working on the bundle for it |
| 960s | and Reb mentioned in one of the streams |
| 963s | that his weapon skin is gonna be tarot |
| 966s | cards which I am obsessed with because |
| 969s | you know |
| 969s | of persona 5 so I'm obsessed with this |
| 972s | Terra card inspiration yeah it's based |
| 975s | off of the Chinese hopping vampires was |
| 980s | the enviros Rebbe must have inspired |
| 985s | yeah so I mean I kept some of various |
| 989s | original concept but it's all really |
| 991s | loosely interpreted mm-hmm like that and |
| 994s | the asymmetrical cloth on this side and |
| 996s | the eyes on key parts of the body so the |
| 1003s | tarot cards what are those going to be |
| 1006s | like throwing weapons I assume it so |
| 1009s | instead of a despair you're gonna have |
| 1010s | tarot cards kind of thing it gives me |
| 1014s | life I gotta tell you really maybe |
| 1020s | figure out which one it is like you mean |
| 1023s | like a real like sign like son or hanged |
| 1025s | man's I mean yeah oh my god I'm not |
| 1028s | gonna tell you which one oh my god this |
| 1029s | is a game now it was fun watching like |
| 1034s | the design process what you landed on |
| 1037s | and you show me more show me one so |
| 1043s | where is it as we speak now this is |
| 1046s | before time before this is launched or |
| 1049s | before the podcast launches but where |
| 1051s | where does it sit now in terms of |
| 1052s | completion well I have to finish up the |
| 1056s | whole bundle so these items besides the |
| 1062s | skin yep so I have to finish those up by |
| 1067s | the 23rd mm-hmm so most of them are high |
| 1071s | poly done for the most part and what |
| 1074s | does that mean in case no one knows what |
| 1075s | high poly means the sculpting we do in |
| 1078s | ZBrush that's the high poly it's a high |
| 1080s | detail model that gets like the detail |
| 1084s | gets projected on to a low detail model |
| 1086s | that goes into the game pretty much |
| 1088s | looks like a 3d clay kind of thing yeah |
| 1091s | yeah it's the fun that's it there's not |
| 1094s | your favorite part of well it's it's a |
| 1099s | toss-up between the sculpting and the |
| 1101s | texturing at the very end I love |
| 1103s | texturing to everything in between sucks |
| 1108s | UV unwrapping low-poly |
| 1111s | creation baking yeah this all sounds |
| 1116s | like another language to me because I |
| 1117s | have no idea what any of that means it's |
| 1119s | hard to explain to people without having |
| 1122s | visuals like I think for me how I |
| 1126s | explained the whole converting your high |
| 1129s | detail sculpture to a low detail |
| 1131s | sculpture or model or whatever when you |
| 1134s | say model people are what yeah it's like |
| 1147s | in elementary school when they make you |
| 1149s | make those geometric shapes paper yeah |
| 1153s | and so you'll have your like oh with |
| 1155s | like the dotted lines so you when it's |
| 1158s | all together that's like your low-poly |
| 1160s | yeah like you draw on and that's like |
| 1163s | the high detail information yeah and |
| 1166s | then you have to unfold the cube giving |
| 1171s | me flashbacks public I've tried I need |
| 1176s | visuals to explain sure yeah you're an |
| 1178s | artist you need visuals |
| 1179s | yeah but you nodded your head when she |
| 1181s | said textures are so favorite texture |
| 1185s | and warframe that you've worked on is |
| 1187s | that a silly question |
| 1188s | I'm curious it makes sense I just like |
| 1191s | metal stuff because it's so different |
| 1193s | like when you're in ZBrush it's all flat |
| 1196s | colors and stuff and then you're working |
| 1198s | on it and painter and it's it's shiny |
| 1201s | but it doesn't really have a lot of life |
| 1204s | to it but once you give it put it in the |
| 1206s | engine it's got like this beautiful rich |
| 1208s | bloom to it that affects the camera and |
| 1211s | stuff and like suddenly this prime item |
| 1214s | that I've been used to seeing only in |
| 1215s | like doll colors comes to life when I |
| 1218s | put in the engine I think something that |
| 1220s | confuses me but amazes me at the same |
| 1223s | is kind of similar with like the metal |
| 1225s | textures how you can make used metal or |
| 1230s | like scratch metal or like dirty metal |
| 1232s | look beautiful like that kind of texture |
| 1235s | to me like you'd think oh pristine and |
| 1237s | clean would be like the best but then |
| 1238s | you see like some scratched up dirty |
| 1240s | Grenier and you're like yeah like those |
| 1242s | are some textures right there when stuff |
| 1245s | has like dirt and grime and scratches |
| 1247s | and stuff it gives it character yeah |
| 1249s | like it's been it's been used yeah when |
| 1251s | you buy something brand-new and it's |
| 1254s | like got nothing on it's like anybody |
| 1257s | could have this right that's all |
| 1258s | scratched up and dirty it's like it has |
| 1259s | a little bit of a story to tell |
| 1261s | exactly um I think it's the most |
| 1264s | artistic part of making textures is |
| 1267s | adding the grime and like this story of |
| 1269s | how it was used like where the scratches |
| 1271s | happened where you can't get it clean |
| 1277s | texture wise for me it's one we have a |
| 1281s | new workflow that we use on characters |
| 1283s | and it's being pushed out to weapons as |
| 1286s | well |
| 1286s | we kind of have a material library that |
| 1289s | we assigned to different areas on the |
| 1291s | character and so the first thing one of |
| 1294s | the first things I had to make using |
| 1295s | that method was Octavia deluxe okay I |
| 1298s | was like we kind of cool she has kind of |
| 1300s | like the sparkly car paint they know I |
| 1302s | remember that process like there was a |
| 1304s | lot of different like people are posting |
| 1307s | videos about it cuz it would hit the |
| 1308s | light and it'd be super sparkly it took |
| 1312s | some time so I get it just right |
| 1314s | but it's cool is to learn something new |
| 1317s | and the toys yeah and I think in the |
| 1323s | game different colors on her and she |
| 1327s | like looks good yeah speaking of process |
| 1331s | I just came to me now let's talk about |
| 1332s | some hair shall we |
| 1334s | in any video game is difficult you need |
| 1336s | a like person dedicated and programmers |
| 1340s | and everything you need a lot of support |
| 1342s | for it there are people who their job is |
| 1345s | hair they do hair yeah and they'll work |
| 1347s | at different studios we'll pick them up |
| 1349s | you can see like an art station there's |
| 1352s | a few people that are like here's hair I |
| 1354s | made for this game here's hair I made |
| 1355s | music |
| 1356s | like it seems it seems trivial or it |
| 1358s | seems small but it's a long process and |
| 1361s | it makes all the difference you play a |
| 1362s | game where their hair is static and |
| 1364s | doesn't move and you're like well this |
| 1365s | looks great I'm curious to see what will |
| 1369s | had a fter like the curly hair it's |
| 1373s | coming I'm still pushing for a pompadour |
| 1380s | oh there's two different things oh yeah |
| 1385s | there's like the more feminine one where |
| 1388s | it's like a bomb in the front yes okay |
| 1390s | like a Snooki Markus is the one editing |
| 1399s | these by the way it's a Suzuki with like |
| 1402s | the bump in the front is that a profit |
| 1404s | or yeah yeah so this Anokhi can we call |
| 1406s | it anarchy |
| 1407s | no anyway speaking of actually textures |
| 1412s | and when we were talking about you know |
| 1414s | specially specifically metal and making |
| 1416s | it look like dirty and scratch cos I |
| 1418s | know you do a lot of cosplay yeah I |
| 1423s | watch a lot of tested Adam Savage |
| 1427s | oh yeah a lot of tutorials of like how |
| 1434s | to do life casting how to do airbrushing |
| 1437s | and all that stuff I've watched a lot of |
| 1439s | other videos too but I always come back |
| 1441s | to Adam Savage who just got this passion |
| 1444s | that just it doesn't just leak out of |
| 1447s | him it just explodes when he's excited |
| 1449s | about something it's just really |
| 1451s | motivating you remember the first kind |
| 1455s | of thing you crafted together and I |
| 1457s | cosplay sense I think I just graduated |
| 1459s | from high school or just before then I |
| 1462s | made Team Fortress 2 I read sniper oh |
| 1466s | yeah I made the vest I mean this guy I |
| 1471s | had like these crappy sideburns humates |
| 1475s | and you paint them on like some okay |
| 1483s | yeah cartoon cake of course yeah and I |
| 1486s | practice a crappy accent you were in |
| 1489s | full character yeah yeah it was it was |
| 1491s | so much fun |
| 1492s | yeah and that really propelled my whole |
| 1494s | like want to do cosplay but like I've |
| 1497s | been making things forever like when I |
| 1499s | was a kid I used to make rubberband guns |
| 1502s | out of like wooden dowels and clothes |
| 1504s | pins that I like bent so they were much |
| 1507s | harder and they could I could put my |
| 1515s | best one was a triple barrel one with a |
| 1518s | hand-carved handle and three rubber |
| 1521s | bands I could put on it and I could kill |
| 1524s | horse flies with it |
| 1525s | how big are these wetland horsefly |
| 1533s | [Laughter] |
| 1536s | disgusting yeah so the next weapon a |
| 1538s | warframe will be a rubberband gun oh we |
| 1546s | don't have any giant flies to kill them |
| 1548s | not yet |
| 1549s | throw those a new war all about oh we're |
| 1556s | talking about mosquitoes again we're |
| 1558s | come full circle that would be |
| 1563s | incredible I am for that let me know the |
| 1566s | comments below is that no it's good |
| 1568s | skyress |
| 1569s | outside of work what's what the day in |
| 1573s | the life of sky is like maybe not a day |
| 1576s | with a special day nothing I used to be |
| 1578s | in high school I used to be like the |
| 1581s | go-to anime guy yes I knew this |
| 1583s | conversation was gonna turn to him for |
| 1587s | my friends back in the day like I would |
| 1589s | burn the shows on to like CD ROMs like |
| 1592s | huge stack the CD ROMs and go to school |
| 1595s | with like the coat with a bunch of CDs |
| 1597s | like hey I wanted to root Oh Oh like |
| 1606s | music I believe it |
| 1612s | still in this is a prolonged relation |
| 1617s | nowadays I don't know I try to get out |
| 1621s | more |
| 1622s | we're stuck in here oh yes try to be |
| 1628s | more active putting on air quotes like |
| 1633s | Tuesday's today DS like archery League |
| 1636s | yes yes it's a club |
| 1640s | we're not that competitive so I took |
| 1645s | that up I've been doing that for on and |
| 1647s | off for four or five years I guess the |
| 1650s | big thing I'm doing right now is cooking |
| 1651s | that would be if I wasn't an artist |
| 1653s | I'd be like training to be a chef yeah |
| 1658s | food is creative and artistic it's |
| 1660s | rewarding in a different way because it |
| 1662s | doesn't take a month and a half to make |
| 1664s | something and it's bringing joy or |
| 1675s | nutrients another thing I've been doing |
| 1680s | recently not as well as Rebecca because |
| 1686s | I try the game mm-hmm but I'm waiting |
| 1694s | for I guess the game that I'm excited |
| 1695s | for Ace Combat okay disguise unknown I'm |
| 1701s | a big fan egg Jets licked it I think |
| 1704s | they're I don't know a lot about them |
| 1705s | but I think they're cool super cool so |
| 1708s | I've been playing that series forever |
| 1709s | and this game has been in development |
| 1712s | for like years yeah and I might actually |
| 1716s | buy a VR system so I could play yeah |
| 1722s | yeah you playing any games right now |
| 1728s | [Music] |
| 1731s | space ninjas in space and they shoot gun |
| 1734s | Hertz freeze it free to play oh my it's |
| 1738s | like over five years old yeah |
| 1740s | [Laughter] |
| 1743s | is there anything we didn't talk about |
| 1744s | that you guys want to talk about maybe T |
| 1746s | something or anything I'm working on the |
| 1748s | next skin which we did show yes we have |
| 1750s | shown annex kin along so that's in the |
| 1756s | pipe so the next skin it's it's a lot of |
| 1760s | fun it's really cool style it's cool to |
| 1762s | be working on something that this |
| 1764s | amazing comic book artist designed for |
| 1767s | us and it's way outside of what I would |
| 1770s | usually do so it's a lot of fun so |
| 1772s | that's down the line and I'm also |
| 1774s | working on some other stuff secret so if |
| 1778s | anyone listening wants to maybe check |
| 1779s | out your social medias where can they |
| 1782s | find you they can find me and Skyers and |
| 1786s | I spell that so it's sk y ER Zed Zed |
| 1789s | that's it because I want to be cool hey |
| 1796s | maybe there'll be someone go ahead and |
| 1798s | make your that's actually one of my |
| 1805s | favorites guys where can they find you |
| 1810s | I'm as always as you've been for years |
| 1814s | and years |
| 1818s | love it alright thank you guys for |
| 1821s | sitting with me and hope you enjoyed the |
| 1823s | podcast thank you like to give a huge |
| 1830s | thank you again to Cavs and scarves for |
| 1832s | being on the show and to you for |
| 1834s | listening let's see you all next month |
| 1836s | for another episode of deconstructing de |
| 1841s | you |