over 2 years ago - Ahskance - Direct link

As there are multiple groups of "Ships" in the upcoming Santa Containers, I figured I'd try to be a bit proactive and get you folks some information about how the Drop Chances change when you've got all the ships in a specific group.

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I'm going to use the Santa's Mega Container numbers for this example

Ship Groups together account for 16% Drop Chance.

Tier 5-7 Ships: 12%
Tier 8-9 Ships: 3%
Tier X and Rare: 1%

Example 1:

Situation: A player has all the available ships in the Tier 5-7 Group.

The Santa's Mega Container will continue to have a 16% Drop Chance for "Ships", so the Drop Chance is distributed proportionally amongst the remaining two groups. This will look at the Ratio of the remaining groups, and distribute amongst them such to maintain that ratio.

As the remaining groups have 3% and 1% respectively, we see there is a 3-to-1 ratio between them. This will be used to apportion the Drop Chance from the disabled group.

Tier 5-7 ships: 0% (no available ships to attain disables this Group)
Tier 8-9 ships: 12% (3% increased by 3/4ths of the disabled group's Drop Chance)
Tier X and Rare: 4% (1% increased by 1/4th of the disabled group's Drop Chance)

Example 2:

Situation: A player has all the available ships in the Tier 8-9 Group.

The Santa's Mega Container will continue to have a 16% Drop Chance for "Ships", so the Drop Chance is distributed proportionally amongst the remaining two groups. This will look at the Ratio of the remaining groups, and distribute amongst them such to maintain that ratio.

As the remaining groups have 12% and 1% respectively, we see there is a 12-to-1 ratio between them. This will be used to apportion the Drop Chance from the disabled group.

Tier 5-7 ships: 14.75% (12% increased by 11/12ths of the disabled group's Drop Chance)
Tier 8-9 ships: 0% (no available ships to attain disables this Group)
Tier X and Rare: 1.25% (1% increased by 1/12th of the disabled group's Drop Chance)


Example 3:

Situation: A player has all the available ships in the Tier 5-7 Group AND the Tier 8-9 Group.

The Santa's Mega Container will continue to have a 16% Drop Chance for "Ships", so the Drop Chance is distributed proportionally amongst the remaining two groups. This will look at the Ratio of the remaining groups, and distribute amongst them such to maintain that ratio.

There is only one remaining group. This will be used to apportion the Drop Chance from the disabled groups.

Tier 5-7 ships: 0% (no available ships to attain disables this Group)
Tier 8-9 ships: 0% (no available ships to attain disables this Group)
Tier X and Rare: 16% (1% increased by 100% of the disabled groups' Drop Chance)

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Has this been helpful? Lemme know!

over 2 years ago - Ahskance - Direct link

If someone has supported this game to such a large extent to have ALL of the Tier 5-9 ships, then I don't think it's such an outlandish idea that they be able to work on collecting rare ships.

Something Boggzy said remains with me still. Other people purchase ships so that Free-to-Play folks don't have to. They're helping keep World of Warships alive and growing~

over 2 years ago - Ahskance - Direct link

World of Warships is a niche game in its way, but it's just so darn good.

Decades in game-years are like the Elves from Lord of the Rings. It's FOREVER!

Still, this game's got magic enough to go a good long while~

over 2 years ago - Ahskance - Direct link

Yes, this is correct~ The "roll" is constrained to the "Ships" category for the Santa Containers, so a "Guaranteed/Bad Luck Preventation" roll would be confinded to those remaining groups.

As such, the Roll Chance is simply down to the ratios between the groups, which you have mathed out correctly above.

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May I borrow your writing to add to my post?

over 2 years ago - Ahskance - Direct link

Information on this came in this morning.

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"Mercy Rule" information is retained on the account without a set expiration date. Theoretically you could open 14 Mega Containers with no Ship and buy a 15th Mega Container... and then open it 6 months from now. It should result in a Ship Group Drop as the information is simply held with no expiration date in the system.

That being said, each "Container Type" has its own internal system identifier, so next year's Santa's Mega Container will most likely be a different Container with no back-referencing to the prior year's thing regardless of naming convention used. IE: Fresh start for each new Container type brought into the game, even if it has a similar naming convention to a previous Event's Container.

over 2 years ago - Ahskance - Direct link

Every type of Container is has its own tracking. They do not interact with each other~

over 2 years ago - Ahskance - Direct link

From the Post at the beginning for this thread:


"Example 3:

Situation: A player has all the available ships in the Tier 5-7 Group AND the Tier 8-9 Group.

The Santa's Mega Container will continue to have a 16% Drop Chance for "Ships", so the Drop Chance is distributed proportionally amongst the remaining two groups. This will look at the Ratio of the remaining groups, and distribute amongst them such to maintain that ratio.

There is only one remaining group. This will be used to apportion the Drop Chance from the disabled groups.

Tier 5-7 ships: 0% (no available ships to attain disables this Group)
Tier 8-9 ships: 0% (no available ships to attain disables this Group)
Tier X and Rare: 16% (1% increased by 100% of the disabled groups' Drop Chance)"

over 1 year ago - Ahskance - Direct link

Re-pinning this post in case of questions about Santa Crates

over 1 year ago - Ahskance - Direct link

The "unique items" in the Santa Crates are Ships. So the mercy rule means that if 27 containers do not yield a ship, the 28th will force-drop from the ship group.

If you have all the ships the containers offer (which is a LOT of ships), the ship group will instead give Steel as ships are unique and you cannot have more than 1 of a specific ship.

over 1 year ago - Ahskance - Direct link

It would be in the 27th Container if the prior 26 do not strike the Ship Group.

From the Armory:

over 1 year ago - Ahskance - Direct link

I can explain how the selection system works. First, baseline information regarding a "Santa's Mega Gift Container" can be found on our website which lists the contents and drop rates.

From the Contents and Drop Rates of Containers page: https://worldofwarships.com/en/content/contents-and-drop-rates-of-containers/


The process tree is going to work like this:

Select from an available Group/Option

Initial Group/Option chance is listed above.


If an Option with a single choice is rolled, receive that single choice.


If a Group is rolled, all Options within that Group are evenly weighted.

If a Unique Option is already owned by the player, it is removed from availability. All remaining Options are evenly weighted.

(You can read more about how that works in the first post of this thread)

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Your concern looks to be "If there are more types/options, than doesn't that make it less likely to get a ship?"

The answer is: No, the "Ship Groups" equal to 16% Drop Chance. The other Options on the initial pull total to an 84% Drop Chance, and you can see the weighting of each Option in the picture above.

This information is also provided in the Armory if you scroll past the Ship Group description.






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