[2020] Honestly disappointed with A19.

At the current rate of progression for the average player, They'll have their first guns by the second horde night, Be well kitted out by the third, And armed to the teeth by the fourth. In the grand scheme of things, That's 28 days. Back in the day, the game kept getting harder right on up to day 52; After that it more or less plateau'd. Even now it still takes around 50+ days for the difficulty to hit it's absolute peak on default settings. So we're STILL advancing way too fast for the difficulty curve, In a game that's meant to last an average of 50 days, And can continue on well past 100.

Like, I get it, To someone that's been playing A18, Or A17, Or A16, It feels like molasses. But it's really not that bad; And ultimately depends on what you choose to do. You can still find guns and such, rarely, in loot even at a low gamestage- It's just actually rare now instead of having 50 guns by the end of day 1, and being in nothing but purple gear by day 7.

Originally posted by Mard-E-Momin: It's a half done system. In A20 they'll be implementing the other half which allows you to get better loot from higher tiered buildings at the cost of facing tougher enemies.

Also this. Unfinished systems are unfinished and still being refined. :)

Originally posted by DrLamp: I disagree with the idea that they should guns by the second horde knight. Look on your streaming platform of choice and you can see people getting firearms at day one. There's alot of streams showing this.

And many of them play with mods, Or tweaked their settings so they gain exp faster, Or find more loot, Or have longer day.. Or heck, they just got lucky. Or they worked and bought a gun from the trader. What i said remains to be accurate- With a 50 day expected time scale, It's currently not only possible but completely expected to have end game top quality equipment by around day 25.

There's a few dozen different settings. There's tons of ways to play the game...And beyond that is RNG, World layout, Decisions made.. You can't just look at any other persons experience and expect to get the exact same experience as them in a sandbox like 7dtd.

Originally posted by DrLamp: Another post by a mod giving conflicting information, that also conflicts with information from order mods and also the devs.

There are plenty of streams on your platform of choice showing people obtaining firearms day 1.

I explicitly stated inside my post that you CAN find and obtain guns on day 1. I just also stated that it is rare to do so; The exception being via trader as they typically have at least one gun for sale and it's not hard to afford.

Edit: Misremembered my post; Thinking of another one i made recently. Did not in fact explicitly state you can find guns on day 1 currently in my previous post in this thread. But I didn't say you cannot; And I'd appreciate if it was not asserted as if i did.

Edit 2: Also...Technically speaking, By stating that 'they'll have their first guns by the second horde night', This does in fact include finding them on day 1, OR on day 14, Or any time inbetween.... I also do not consider the blunderbuss to be a gun, but it technically is and you'll almost always find one on day 1 or day 2.