almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Morning folks,

I'm on the road today so I figured it would be smart to keep a Megathread running that we can track any issues we see with the deployment of today's update. Feel free to tag me (/u/partwelsh) across the Subreddit today and I'll be quick to share with the teams back in the office.

What's happening?

We're deploying Update #1 for the start of Chapter 4: Defying the Odds. This is a zero downtime update so you'll be able to grab the update as soon as it's available

When is the Update available?

  • PC: Starting at 0800 UTC / 1AM PDT / 0900 BST / 1000 CEST / 6PM AEST
  • PS4: Starting at 0900 UTC / 2AM PDT / 1000 BST / 1100 CEST / 7PM AEST
  • Xbox One: Starting at 1000 UTC / 3AM PDT / 1100 BST / 1200 CEST / 8PM AEST

What's in the Update?

You can read the full update notes here, alternatively we published a new episode of On the Battlefield with Core Gameplay Designer /u/DRUNKKZ3 that showcases some of the changes happening with this update.

On the Battlefield - Chapter 4 Core Gameplay Updates

Known Issues:

  • DXR Firestorm Crash – Players who are running DX12 & DXR and who attempt to play Firestorm after playing normal Multiplayer will crash. The workaround here is to either switch off DX12 or go straight into Firestorm after booting the game.
  • “Cairo” Reference in Menus – There is a setting which allows you to change your Squad colors in Firestorm. This setting has the word "Cairo" as part of the name. This is an old code-name and has no impact on the game.
  • Axis Male Soldier Face Paint - We're aware of an issue where Axis male soldier face paints aren't visible/selectable. We're working on this and will update with an ETA as soon as possible.
  • Incorrect Dogtag Art - Dogtags for some of the new weapons which will be given as Chapter rewards have the wrong 3D and 2D assets. We're working with the teams to address and correct this.

Fixed Issues:

  • Firestorm Matchmaking - There was an issue with this that required us to disable Firestorm, it's since been fixed and the mode is now available
  • End of Round Company Coins – There was an issue with this when we launched the Update, however we have now hotfixed this.

I'll keep editing this thread throughout the day as I chat with the teams back in the office.

Freeman // @PartWelsh

PC Update is Live - 11GB Approx

PS4 Update is Live - 7.16GB

Xbox Update is Live - 5.36GB

We are presently tracking an issue that is currently displaying new Epic tier Tank Customisations as available for purchase with Company Coin. This is an unexpected behaviour and isn’t indicative of a change in our approach to Epic Tier customisations. I’ve asked the teams to look at this and get back to me.

Update - 17:40 BST

Evening folks - wanted to provide a summary of where we presently are with the issues raised by today's update and provide some clarification on where we are in terms of addressing those issues.

Today we inadvertently released over 100 new Tank and Plane customization options. Some of this is content scheduled for an update that is planned for later in Chapter 4. None of this content was designed for release in today's update.

In addition to that, some of these customization options were flagged as Epic skins, but were available for purchase with CC for a short while. This is not our common behavior concerning the purchase of Epic Tier items, which are typically only available for purchase with Boins

We have since deactivated purchase of these Vehicle skins. They have not been tested, and they presently do not meet our quality standards. If you have already purchased these skins, they will not be removed from your account and you're able to make full use of them.

In the event that any of them prove to be broken, or causing issues during game play, we will temporarily disable them whilst we address that, but will restore them to players who own them once resolved.

Some of these Vehicle skins are expected to be made available later on during Chapter 4. We recognize completely the desire for more customization options for Vehicles and are keen to bring these to you as soon as they're ready.

We also hear your concerns on the inability to purchase Epic tier skins with Company Coin. Today's issue has returned the spotlight on this conversation, and we'll continue to listen to your feedback on this topic.

Other issues that we're tracking include a need to disable Firestorm Matchmaking. We've just done that, as it's presently resulting in too many timeouts and we're intending to deploy a Hotfix tomorrow.

Myself and /u/braddock512 are in the process of detailing additional known issues as here on the Subreddit. Please do message me or Braddock if you've encountered something that we can help alert to the teams.

Update - 04:52 BST

We've heard feedback from folks who have seen improvements in FPS drops, stuttering, and FPS lag, and we've seen plenty of feedback from folks who say they don't see an improvement and some who've said it's worse. We have done some general improvements which we hope has improved the game performance which was causing stuttering and framedips for some players. We are still looking at improving things moving forward and we are interested in hearing what your experience has been so far with the latest update when it comes to performance. Please drop us a line down in the comments - platform, region, any specific map, (if PC - Windows version, GPU model, GPU driver version), and we'll make sure to share this on with our Dev team.

We're also looking at airplane machine gun damage being low, negatively impacting plane combat. We've also escalated hit reg issues with planes that cropped up with this update.

Thanks for all of your feedback today.

- Freeman and the Battlefield Team

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almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by jfr1988

What size is update?

Waiting for confirmation on what the actual sizes are but we are estimating the following for X1 and PC (PS4 we will learn as it goes live but I would anticipate that it’s similar to the X1 Update):

PC Approximate Update Size - 10.91 GB X1 Approximate Update Size - 5.36 GB

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by ThisDudeAbides87

Looks like I’m firing up the battlefield tomorrow. Iron banner is over and I miss driving tanks over objects.

I miss Destiny. I’m really looking forward to the cross progress update this September. I have characters on PS4 that I’m keen to move to PC and to get stuck back into it.

Played so much IB on 1

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by Mr_Nurgle

Are we getting back domination and frontlines? Weeks they are gone and i see no reason to play if best 32 player modes are gone.

Frontlines will return via Tides of War for a full week during this Chapter. Domination is still under review.

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by 1MC_

With the changes coming to AP mines and using prone to avoid damage from them. How will this affect people in that state and people shooting at those people. Is there frames of invincibility? Also I can crawl and set off mines and not be hit by them?

Also with classes having so little to choose from in terms of gadgets are you worried about making them redundant? I guessing AP mine is most played gadget and allowing support/medic/"recon" use them. Are you hoping for more of a field of use for the other gadgets or do you intend to buff others and hopefully add more ( please in the next chapter! ).

The buffs to the medic and ammo crate are great and I can't wait to get them extra points. Have you seen in testing the extra points medic/supports earn have a increase of squads using non-v1 calls in during a long e.g conquest or breakthrough? As a squadleader in both gamemodes I just seem to be saving for a big fat v1 and generally you get a moment in the matches where v1 are flying all over the place.

Also in terms of reinforcement callings can we be seeing more than 1 crocodile tank or will teams still be limited to 1 per team? I don't use the crocodile tank as I find it much weaker than the german counterpart ( seriously bathtubs of death from across the map vs a non main gunner position where you can barely see anything after shooting it for 5 seconds and needing to be in close quarters )

Again will we be seeing more reinforcement calling ins added and to a point where we can customize our own wheel of reinforcements?

Gonna put you in /u/braddock512 with /u/Partwelsh

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Thanks again.

edits: a lot due to lack of sleep.

No invincibility. They’re still dangerous and still serve a defensive purpose. We’re always looking for ways to continue balancing Weapons and Gadgets, happy to take your suggestions. I always encourage spending your points tactically, smoke barrage is underrated. No changes currently on the cards for reinforcements, again happy to hear your suggestions.

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by RealCrusader

No frames of invincibility it explodes at 0.8 meters so will explode above the player if they are prone

The explosion radius is above the point of detonation. So if you’re below it, you’re gravy.

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by excaliburps

Al-Sundan will be available in CQ today? Or is it still delayed?

Delayed. You’ll find that TDM and Squad Conquest rotations are updated with it but we will need more time to get it right for Conquest.

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by dacherrybomb

The slight chance someone from DICE reads this. When can we expect the vehicle spawn UI system to be polished/reworked? For example, the plane icon doesn't show up for me, but then another player sees it all along and takes that aircraft even though I have been waiting all along. Also, the transport vehicle UI is incorrect for certain maps. It indicates there is a transport vehicle in the base and then you spawn in the main base and no transport is available. Thanks, DICE!

I’ll forward through to the teams who own the systems. Thanks for sharing!

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by AWU_Hades

Is the plane engine sound bug fixed with this update?

Btw there is an issue with the 6-pounder gun on the Mosquito. If you switch between machine gun and 6-pounder, a wrong and weird crosshair appears. To fix this you need to switch again between those weapons to be able to aim correclty :/

Fixed.

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by LayherSkywalker

Any idea when FS duos might be coming back? I really miss it..!

Looking into when we might do that for a weekend or two this Chapter. We won’t see it return permanently though.

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by Oddball2142

Very much this u/partwelsh

It’s something I’m encouraging the team look into and help feedback on

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by Athix01

@PartWelsh

Edit: Problem solved with a Repair in Origin.

After update: game won't launch. Screen turns black with the loading icon in the upper right corner of the monitor... but only for a second or so before it just closes down and returns to desktop. Never had that issue before.

Playing on a 2080 Ti with dxr turned on before the update, just in case it could be the ray tracing causing other problems than switching to Firestorm mode.

This is a known issue with this update. Need to turn DXR off, especially for Firestorm.

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by Endzik1920

I hope "General stability" means make game playable again on ps4 pro, after last update I have massive problem with framerate...

I’m hearing good things back from PC players so far, keen to hear from folks on PS4 now the update is slowly working its way out to more people.

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by ExpensiveArmadillo

Holy shit, the Dome is massive. D:

Big boi.

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by DrunkOnRedWine

I'd get the Epic tank skins for CC whilst you still can

A note on this.

I'm being informed that these Vehicle Customizations are being disabled for new purchases. They were not intended for release in this update and may appear unfinished and carry unexpected issues.

Additionally, they were not intended for purchase using Company Coin.

I'll keep providing what clarification I can throughout the day by editing this comment.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by Danny_ns

u/partwelsh

A question regarding the stuttering issues. I do try and keep up with what you've replied previously regarding these issues but I am not 100% sure that DICE are fully awere of the extent of this issue. So from my understanding, there are at least two different parts of this problem;

  1. Assignment tracking (?) is causing stuttering everytime you get shot at, or you get a frag. This seems to have been introduced recently and is what, from my understanding, is being worked on by DICE.
  2. There is a long standing issue with Frostbite and Windows 10 (specifically Battlefield 1 and V - not Battlefront 2) causeing seemingly random stuttering. On my own PC, I can replicate this issue with 100% accuracy by switching between Windows 10 version. Anything newer than Windows 10 v. 1607 (ie. 1703, 1709, 1803, 1809, 1903) will have this "random stutter". This happens in both Battlefield 1 and V, but not Battlefront 2. That's right, I've reinstalled an old version of Windows 10 just so I can play BF1/V without this "random stutter". BF1 runs like a dream (the perfoverlay.graph shows very nice lines for both CPU/GPU). Updating windows to anything newer causes the orange (CPU) line to "periodically"/randomly show spikes.

Levelcapgaming did a video, and he has 100% the same stuttering issue described under point 2. I will link it here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmpYeG-HFKk

Please take a few moments and watch the gameplay in his video - notice the "look" of the stutters. Notice they happen randomly, sometimes while he is just running around without any combat. Notice his frametimes spiking. This is exactly the stuttering I'm trying to describe. This issue has been here for almost 3 years now - to this day it is not fixed in Battlefield 1 (and probably never will be). I'm hoping at least some dev-time will be spent trying to fix this for Battlefield V so I can come back to Windows 10 1903.

As mentioned above, I have tried Battlefront 2 on 1803, 1809 and 1607 - it plays equally great (no stuttering) on all versions. The stutter seems to be exclusive to Battlefield 1 and V.

Is this something DICE are aware of?

Thank you for your time.

I just shared this in one of our Slack channels where QA and DICE Leads are. Thanks.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by sammyace

Is anyone else unable to equip face paint for their Axis characters? -Xbox One

This is a known issue affecting male Axis soldiers that was noted yesterday in the Chapter 4 Update #1 Availability and Known Issues post.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by itsthechizyeah

"FACE PAINT, FACE PAINT, WEVE GOT NO FACE PAINT HERE"

see, nobody cares

I'm laughing because I literally saw Nedry when I read that. (Be nice, though.)

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by natemach97

/u/partwelsh

Not sure if anyone else has been experiencing it, but I'm not earning any CC from playing matches after the patch dropped. Would normally get anywhere from 50-450CC per round but after three (two?) matches my CC balance hasn't increased.

We're investigating that right now.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by SgtSetzer

Any news on the last tiger skin? Spent so long trying to earn it and still waiting for the fix

The fix went out 6 weeks ago. If you're still having issues, contact EA Help.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by CheeringKitty67

u/partwelsh

Well you broke CA again

No EOR report.

No Weapon progression.

Who is your legal POC.

You can find that information on EA.com.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by ToLurkorCirclejerk

Return the vehicle skins. Let us buy them with CC like we thought we could and roll with the mistake.

They were removed specifically because they weren't completely finished and there were some bugs. How they're purchased or the tier they are on wasn't the main driving force to remove them, though it was one factor. The main issue was they shouldn't have been released yet. Sorry, mate.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by Mattyc8787

So is DXR still borked then? There is also the bug with DXR on firestorm where if you pickup armor it freezer for a few seconds.

One of the Known issues we posted about yesterday was DX12 on Firestorm. There are still some issues facing players who use DX12 on Firestorm - and we're working with Nvidia to identify the root issue and resolve it as soon as possible.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by subileus

my game is constantly ctd after the new patch on PC :(

Have you restarted the PC, rebooted Origin, and tried again?

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by ThumblessTurnipe

u/Braddock512

And 10 hours later, hasn't even been acknowledge. Are we to assume this is an intentional nerf then?

This has been escalated to the team for review. Thanks for tagging me so I can make sure to see your comment.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by ThumblessTurnipe

Honestly wasn't even expecting a reply. Thanks and apologies for the snark, its just frustrating.

I didn't see any snark. :)

I saw frustration and I totally understand, buddy. My apologies for not seeing your post earlier! (It's been a wild day, as you can imagine.)

As a heads-up, we're also tracking airplane machine gun damage. It seems to be.... non-existent - which is making aerial combat really bad. The devs are already tracking that as well.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by SgtSetzer

Already have done but didn’t really get a definitive answer

They can add it to your account. Contact them and show them this comment.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by BleedingUranium

Airplane damage and invisible soldiers are the two real gameplay-affecting issues post-patch, hopefully both are on the the team's radar. :)

They’re a priority right now.

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by strict_positive

Not sure if you'll see this post or not but just letting you know performance has been perfect for me since the patch. Huge improvement. I'm running an i5 6500 with a gtx 1070.

Still not the case for everyone, but glad you've seen an improvement!

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by AWU_Hades

u/PartWelsh

I hope you guys are aware of the broken FOV on Al Sundan... this makes the game unplayable for me right now.

We are, caught it this morning on a few streams. Thank you!

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by Phoenix547

Game freezes and crashes to desktop consistently every couple of hours, pre and post update.

So far I have:

  • Reinstalled GPU drivers, (430.86),
  • Reinstalled BFV,
  • Reinstalled Windows, (10.0.18362)

I shouldn't be having any issues running the game, but specs are as follows:

i7 6950x, GTX 1080ti, 32GB RAM. Game is installed to an SSD so texture loading issues causing a lag spike shouldn't be a factor. No thermal throttling, max GPU temp ~65c.

Honestly I'm sick of it. This is the only game I have this issue with. Also BFV worked perfectly with the exact same hardware for months following release, then I start playing again about a month ago and have these constant problems.

/u/partwelsh can someone please look into this? Given the consistent nature of the crashing it seems like it may be a memory leak?

A few people have suggested that though we don't presently believe that to be the case. Some folks found performance improvements when they did start messing around with 3rd Party Software that manages that stuff, and others found it made things worse/no different.

Either way it's not something we consider fully addressed so we'll keep working on it. Thanks for sharing what you did!

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by Zentralschaden

It is not possible to download the update. It keeps deleting 5gb chunks of data and starts the download over and over again ( My HDD is okay)

I already restarted the update and it just does not finish.

I think i already downloaded like 150-200GB of data without finishing it.

Does EA even pay for traffic? Now I realize why theres download speed problems because shittons of traffic are generated for nothing.

I'd encourage that you get in touch with the team at EA Help if this is still carrying on.

https://help.ea.com

almost 5 years ago - /u/PartWelsh - Direct link

Originally posted by rambler13

Have you gotten any more information on the length of the delay?

Nothing new. Our preference is to solve the issue via a Hotfix vs. waiting for the next update as it's not something we can solve on the backend. Will share widely soon as we have something.

almost 5 years ago - /u/Braddock512 - Direct link

Originally posted by stickler_Meseeks

Wanted to confirm with you that someone has reported the skin most likely causing the invisibility on soldiers? If not I can provide via PM (not something I personally want to spread further and I've already unequipped it from any soldier that had it).

Pm me.