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Wow what a way to add insult to injury huh? Get bent
The rules are there for a reason.
All it does is keep us from spreading awareness about the toxic players to avoid since y’all refuse to do anything about them.
So you want us to punish someone based on no evidence at all, on a closed network we can’t moderate at all?
No, that’s not “all it does”.
Is that what I said??? There’s absolutely no reason for the player “scout” to not be perma banned. It’s unacceptable. There’s also no reason we shouldn’t be allowed to discuss the toxic players we encounter so that we can spread awareness and avoid playing with them in the future. Also unacceptable.
Y’all literally refuse to do anything about it and act like the problem doesn’t exist. Your report system is a joke. It almost seems like y’all are fine with these types of players harassing the community. At the very least you don’t seem to care. Not a good look at all. Especially when all you say about it is a stupid f**king joke when players are pleading with you to do something. “not very rock and stone”.
That’s exactly what you said. I’ve already had several people being harassed due to posts like this, because usernames are so easily faked, so don’t try pull off a half-assed comment about “all it does is not let us talk about toxic people” when the rule is there to protect people from internet vigilantes with their heads up their asses. People can report profiles on the platforms they encounter them on. Adding to that, this is a post about someone taking an extra resupply, sheesh.
Well I would like to add that it is more than just taking an extra resupply, the user went out of his way to message me after intentionally riling me up so he could trap me into saying a cuss word which he then immediately reported. This is incredibly toxic behavior. I'm 100% certain I'm not the first person he's done this to.
As such, your post is fine, except for the name. As long as it’s focusing on your experience of the encounter, it’s not a problem. We just cannot have people throwing random names in the pool, as it will hit people that aren’t involved. Also, it’s your word against theirs and there’s really no reason to get the internet involved on that level.
That’s exactly what I said??? Excuse me??? Please show me where I said “punish someone based on no evidence at all”. I literally never said anything close to that. There is more than enough evidence to justifiably punish players like “scout”. Your half assed excuses for doing nothing don’t hold water. Now you’re putting words in my mouth to try and demonize me as a way to justify doing nothing.
Also, very nice of you to say that we have our heads up our asses for wanting the toxic players to be dealt with like they are in pretty much every other gaming community. It seems you were projecting a bit when you said that.
Nice talking to you Jacob you come across like a real swell guy and a pillar of the gaming community. I’m glad most other devs are nothing like you. Rock and Stone.
You’re literally saying the rule is there to keep “you” from spreading awareness about toxic players, and I explained clearly that the rule is there to protect people (including you) from witchhunts. The rule doesn’t bend one way or the other. All naming and shaming posts will be removed - I will not have another innocent person being harassed because you feel a screenshot of a chat is sufficient to go after any person on Steam named Scout playing Deep Rock Galactic.
It’s obvious that they just don’t care and that type of behavior is acceptable to them.
It’s obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about.
DEVELOPER CAUGHT IN 4K BEING TOXIC TO FANS. TRIED TO DELETE IT TO SAVE FACE. THE WORLD MUST KNOW JACOB AS GUILTY AS THE TOXIC PLAYER IN THE POST.
GSG_Jacob:
That’s exactly what you said. I’ve already had several people being harassed due to posts like this, because usernames are so easily faked, so don’t try pull off a half-assed comment about “all it does is not let us talk about toxic people” when the rule is there to protect people from internet vigilantes with their heads up their asses. People can report profiles on the platforms they encounter them on. Adding to that, this is a post about someone taking an extra resupply, sheesh.
My response:
So let me get this straight... We're protecting a toxic player who got someone comms banned, because an innocent could be caught in the crossfire/the story is fake? I could be wrong, but that feels like something you could actually verify with OP.
But anyways, a DEVELOPER of the game chooses to reply to the post and start more drama to which they call a passionate member of their community a quote "internet vigilante with their head up their ass"
People can report profiles on the platforms they encounter them on.
Imagine my reporting your account for like hate speech or bullying or whatever category I find to fit gets you banned on Reddit, or at least suspended. What an absolutely glorious twist of fate that would be because you succumbed to the same problem as OP and tried to flame him for it.
Wow, an alt account to circumvent your ban and twist your narrative. You're not the bad guy at all, no.
He wasn't toxic to a fan. Dismissive, maybe. I'm sure this witchhunt thing is or was a recurring thing that became a problem.
As guilty as the toxic player in the post
Yeah no you're completely exaggerating lol
We're protecting a toxic player who got someone comms banned, because an innocent could be caught in the crossfire/the story is fake?
Yes they are and that's a good thing. It's ridiculously easy for a troll to misdirect an internet mob and ruin someone's day/week/worse, and I'm not saying it's necessarily the case here. Most subreddits tell you not to start a witchhunt, this isn't exclusive to DRG. Also on a side note next time you say something like "We're not doing x because there's a risk that an innocent is punished?" ask yourself if that's how a justice system should work in your opinion.
But anyways, a DEVELOPER of the game chooses to reply to the post and start more drama to which they call a passionate member of their community a quote "internet vigilante with their head up their ass"
He didn't call you, OP, or anyone specific an internet vigilante with their head up their ass. He's just saying they exist. And I don't want to start drama, but it looks like you're the one trying to start one with that headline you started your comment with.
Imagine my reporting your account for like hate speech or bullying or whatever category I find to fit gets you banned on Reddit, or at least suspended.
Where is the hate speech? Where is the bullying? This is far fetched. Reddit, Microsoft and GSG are distinct companies with different platforms and rules. I can say "f**k" here without getting 1984'd, and the dev can speak his mind freely, as long as it doesn't break Reddit's TOS. Game devs aren't obligated to put on a fake smile and be overly polite with their players. And no, this dev wasn't flaming the user, you should really put that pitchfork away.
The fact that Xbox Live bans users for the slightest thing and that trolls exploit it to get people muted is not GSG's fault nor problem unfortunately. (It's also not exclusive to Xbox Live. Looking at you Ubisoft.)
It's his alt account, so he's not even speaking in defense of someone - it's all him stroking his ego.
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ANGRY KID WHIPS OUT THIRD ALT ACCOUNT TO BACK HIMSELF UP. More at 9.
Why do you protect the worst players?
The rule is there to stop witchhunts on people. We’ve had several people be harassed because someone pretended they were them. It’s that simple, really. This isn’t a People’s court and it’s not going to be.
the only ones your rules are protecting are the ones being toxic in the game that deserves to be called out for their behaviour.
But guess that is just typical business on reddit. Mods are always protecting the worst while screwing over the victims.
So you would be fine with getting banned, based on what someone wrote on Reddit? 99% of these posts provided nothing but an anecdotal perspective. Names can easily be changed. There’s no way of proving someone did what was claimed and even if there was, it’s not up to someone on the internet to be the judge jury and executioner.
Then why can't we have personal blacklists? Just let me remove a guy from being in my games. No one else would know.
No one is saying you can’t have that. It should be in the game, I agree.
So why is it your job to play police? Do you feel you are protecting someones life from real danger lol.
Because I am the community manager, and this is the community I manage. I'm not going to let people air their dirty laundry, trying to get a lynch mob going, and it honestly shouldn't be necessary to even defend that position. If you feel it's protecting the toxic people, I probably can't convince you otherwise, but don't buy into the illusion that the same toxic people wouldn't abuse those posts being allowed this, because they already have - and that is the main reason the rule is there and that it applies to everything. Don't feed the troll.
We have no way of knowing if OP's story is true or the whole truth. The problem with naming and shaming is there are people who will take advantage of it to harass others (not saying that is the case here, just in general).
This exactly. It's not public service. It's supporting a narrative there's no possible way of confirming is real. Also, this post is literally about a guy taking an extra resupply, OP reacting to it, and then getting a temp ban on Xbox live for breaking their terms. Whether he was baited into doing it or not is not really relevant - taking bait isn't a get out of jail free card and either way it's an assumption.
I understand your rule, there are evil people out there. even if someone did me dirty I dont blast them on the internet but if someone did blast me and a bunch of people were writing me you know how much I would care? none, I would not even read them and give them the time of day. This is also a part of acquiring thick skin and not caring about what people say but because there are internet police out there who do take action over "words" believe it or not, that only makes everything worse and people are more antagonizing. The internet just needs to let everyone get it out of there system, let them cry and see what happens, nothing. People even go as far as blaming suicide from internet bullying but that is pathetic, people who are committing suicide already had deeper issues and were going to anyways. Anyways, im done ranting, I understand what you are saying, I say let them burn eachother down and get it over with.
Oh yeah, I get that - but time has shown that it escalates, and since the trolls specifically target users in the community, I'd rather keep those users safe and take the flak that we're "protecting toxic players". Deleting them keeps the vigilantes away. People are free to post any and all bad experiences, but they should leave the names out of it in this subreddit.
I am taking note of these posts and using them to push for better user management of blocked users - we should have that as a minimum, IMO.