[2022] Developer Stream 9.2.22 | Last Epoch | Last Epoch Dev Tracker

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2s	good afternoon everybody welcome back to
5s	the last epoch devstream
8s	as you might be accustomed to at this
10s	point
12s	i'm your host mike hello
14s	how are you doing today
16s	i'm feeling quite good thank you how are
18s	you doing today
19s	uh now with that out of the way let's go
21s	let's hop right in
23s	we're uh we are as you may notice
25s	playing a new build today
28s	um we're taking another build off of
31s	this list of fun builds that perry made
33s	a video of a while ago and we're uh
35s	we're playing holy trail javelin
42s	um i didn't quite finish my idols but
45s	they were not overly necessary i think
47s	it's just more survivability so we'll
48s	get some of that as we go
52s	hello aaron how's it going welcome to
54s	the party
57s	a couple general things here as always
59s	the streams are for charity we have a
60s	new charity this month is at the start
62s	of the month good sports is our charity
64s	this month we will be
66s	supporting them uh it's all about
69s	providing
70s	uh a way for kids to play sports
74s	maybe they don't have access to it in
76s	their community or they can't afford
77s	equipment or need special equipment or
80s	all sorts of other stuff they do they
81s	help with kids getting in to play sports
85s	all different ways which is cool so
87s	that's our channel this this month
89s	um
90s	what the housekeeping stuff do i have oh
92s	yeah um
94s	next week i'll say this date of the
95s	stream as well next week i will be
97s	streaming
98s	um
100s	probably an hour maybe two hours even
102s	earlier than usual
105s	um
106s	i actually do stuff here
109s	i'll be streaming earlier than you stand
111s	down or die already
118s	slightly earlier than usual i've got uh
122s	some family stuff happening
125s	vague things that will require me to not
128s	be
131s	here
133s	which one is it
143s	okay it's pretty pretty basic filter
145s	there's a bunch of items with certain
146s	affixes we want
147s	um
148s	hiding everything else basically
153s	we shouldn't hide everything else
162s	it took me a while to use this because
164s	it is a fairly different build that i've
165s	been playing recently
170s	might switch these
178s	yeah okay this is good we can go over
180s	how this builds work in here since i
182s	just just finished putting it together
183s	before stream um
186s	and and what it's doing some cool stuff
188s	i can actually got a couple points here
189s	don't i yes i do
191s	oh let's fill these out
196s	as always if you have any questions
198s	please feel free to ask them put at last
200s	epochgame
201s	in the questions so i see it pop out at
203s	me and i'll be happy to answer it as
204s	quickly as possible also if you didn't
206s	already know
208s	we just released a new dev blog
211s	um so we'll put that i'll put a link for
213s	that in chat right now
216s	just people can see there's a ton of new
218s	information if people have questions
220s	about that i'll be happy to answer them
222s	as well
223s	um and so we've got a question you'll
225s	start us off here are you sorry if you
227s	get got asked this already probably
230s	that's okay
231s	uh but with the recent peewee drama
233s	what's your take on the topic of what
234s	developer wants versus what the player
236s	gets
237s	ain't that a deep topic i mean
242s	so i think that
244s	especially in a situation where there's
246s	a heavily established player base
249s	um and a very large player base already
252s	it does change things a little bit so
254s	like
255s	i feel like it's and also with us being
257s	in early access the game's not out yet
259s	there's probably a lot less pressure on
262s	us to
263s	um
264s	maintain the status quo and to just sort
267s	of respect the things that have been
268s	there for a long time i think it's much
270s	more expected of us
272s	as a
273s	new game that's not actually even
275s	properly out yet to to to to have much
279s	more drastic changes
281s	um
283s	i think it's a really tricky topic and i
284s	haven't uh i haven't actually been asked
286s	this yet which is cool um
288s	i haven't really put too much thought
291s	into it
292s	um and i'm just kind of stalling for
294s	time here so i can think about a little
295s	bit more i don't really have a good
296s	answer
298s	um
302s	i mean ultimately if you're buying
303s	something
305s	and then that thing you buy changes
307s	after the fact that kind of sucks
310s	um
313s	you could be signing up for
316s	like
317s	if you know you're buying us a thing
318s	that you know changes
320s	um
323s	yeah i i don't know i don't know that's
326s	that's a really good question
328s	i think it's a very deep topic
339s	yeah i don't know i i so i'm i'm
340s	reminded a lot of
342s	uh other other games as well so it's not
344s	just poe that has things like this but
346s	this game's like for example magic the
348s	gathering so i know i bring this up a
349s	lot because i think it relates heavily
351s	to it's it's a gaming system and you
353s	know these things but um
358s	magic changes a lot
361s	and sometimes they'll go back
363s	and they'll completely flip stuff on
365s	their head um
368s	well after you've bought and paid for it
369s	you spend way more money on magic than
371s	you do on pathmax though my goodness
375s	um
379s	it's and sometimes that also doesn't get
382s	received very well
383s	so it's it's it's interesting um
386s	and even in situations like that with a
387s	little flat out band thing you can spend
389s	hundreds of dollars on things and then
391s	they'll just be like all right this card
392s	is no longer legal to play
395s	like that's brutal right
398s	um
400s	and it has to be done for the like
403s	for the health of the game as a whole
407s	so that's sometimes that sometimes does
408s	happen
409s	um
412s	stand down i cannot do that
415s	that's a tricky one
422s	sorry if i don't have a
424s	fully formed answer for you
432s	i cannot do that
438s	i cannot do that
444s	like i i i could not
446s	i i don't know
448s	sorry
449s	i'm gonna be thinking about that one for
450s	weeks though in the back of my head
454s	um what are you only gonna move on to
456s	other questions though sorry uh what are
458s	you all looking uh for testers for
460s	multiplayer as an example of a few hours
461s	in the game with minimal experience
463s	would i be in consideration of the test
465s	program yeah i think there's a big
466s	misconception with that with the tester
468s	programs where people think like oh i'm
470s	not a hardcore gamer i i um so i'm not
474s	eligible for it or something like that
475s	or like i i don't have um
479s	decades of testing experience on other
480s	games so i'm not eligible for anything
482s	like that um and i i don't do that i
485s	want to say if you're interested in it
486s	apply
487s	like don't don't worry about all that
489s	sort of stuff
490s	um it's really useful for us to get
494s	a cross-section of players people that
496s	have varying levels of experience that
498s	are going to be doing different actions
500s	in game that are going to be finding
501s	different things if if we only had like
504s	the the top point one percent of players
507s	like that are pushing in the arena
509s	and and monolith and speed running and
510s	like we only had those like super high
513s	um
514s	like play hours and experienced players
516s	it was the only there we'd get a very um
519s	one-dimensional
521s	set of feedback for uh from the
523s	multiplayer test and so we it's really
525s	important that we actually get a broad
527s	cross-section of our entire player base
529s	um the one thing that i would ask is
531s	that if you if you want to get into the
533s	testing and you want to play
535s	with the multiplayer testing and the ct
536s	testing like um
539s	like if you're gonna take the time to
540s	apply and the time we're gonna take to
541s	review and everything like that like
542s	please actually play it i guess it's the
544s	only thing like um
546s	only apply if you're gonna be able to
548s	like
549s	play for more than an hour
552s	i know it seems like a ridiculously low
553s	bar but like there's some accounts that
555s	we've seen like they have less than an
556s	hour of ct time and and part of that is
559s	it's not it's not running the entire
560s	time people may not have been like
562s	people coming out of town and we haven't
564s	run it for like 24 7 for a long time for
566s	at all yet so like that's starting so
568s	it's not like
569s	terrible or anything yet um
572s	but yeah if you're gonna do it just like
574s	play a little bit
580s	yeah
582s	that's it yes you'd be considered still
585s	um but one thing we're really looking
587s	for is uh more regions so if you're in a
590s	less densely populated region you'll
593s	probably be picked up faster
597s	how long do you think uh for the game to
599s	get out of the early access um so this
601s	is like when are we gonna launch the
603s	game question and unfortunately i don't
604s	have any specific answers for you right
606s	now um
607s	it's when it's ready it's kind of the
609s	blanket answer and
612s	um yeah it's
614s	we're pushing as hard as we can we've
615s	got most of the um what's the core
617s	features plan for 1.0 are sort of in and
620s	ready and we're now working on
622s	converting to multiplayer and there's
623s	those new things that we're adding still
624s	as well but like the
627s	um
629s	i can note yeah
631s	yeah like it's it's more expanding on
633s	things that are left and
634s	it's polishing and
637s	you know all those all those fun things
639s	that are super important and time
641s	consuming
643s	i feel like i'm in a little bit low
645s	difficulty of an area and i think i
647s	might want to go to empowered here do
648s	not do that but i don't think i have
650s	empowered unlocked which is a problem
654s	so we might go do a
656s	[Music]
658s	um oh what's my call i'm just even just
660s	like rush through this
666s	i've been focusing on the questions and
668s	i haven't really been paying attention
669s	to what i'm playing just getting used to
670s	this build
675s	things are dying fast
682s	stand down
693s	i think this can handle it
695s	this is a cool build though it's really
696s	interesting because it's you don't have
698s	uh like an auto attack
700s	in the build at all
704s	you really need it i cannot do that
709s	very mobile
712s	stand down or die
720s	all right i can also go over my gear for
722s	a bit we i made sure i got some uniques
723s	with legendary potential so we can we
725s	can go to that and have some fun
727s	because i love rolling
731s	actually just go like right away
733s	[Music]
734s	what
741s	the last thing i did to set this up did
743s	not take at all
752s	all right
754s	next question here we go
756s	um i also was was listening to some
758s	clips from the stream a little while ago
760s	and realized that like it's basically
761s	just my voice and there's no sound from
763s	the game audible at all so i turned the
766s	in-game music volume up a bunch
768s	um
769s	i hope it's like a little bit
773s	so you can hear it a bit just it just
775s	feels so like
776s	me me and nothing
782s	just wanna make us
795s	all right next question i haven't read
796s	or heard anything since the may 10th dev
798s	blog where kane promised uh the patch in
801s	september
802s	um
806s	i'm sure you haven't noticed it is now
808s	september one patch well
811s	um
812s	i think there's been two dev vlogs since
813s	then
815s	uh
816s	and in the the one after that one
819s	we announced that maybe it wasn't uh
822s	right after that one maybe there's been
823s	three actually anyways um we have since
825s	then announced that we are no longer
826s	doing patch
829s	0.8.6 anymore so that was going to be
832s	the next patch as we're on eight five
834s	right now
835s	um
837s	we're skipping
839s	eight
840s	six like we were playing to before and
842s	we are instead going to be running
844s	straight into point nine which is
846s	multiplayer
849s	oh come on there we go
852s	easy one first that's okay
856s	and
857s	uh now that we're we're doing that it's
859s	going to be
860s	a little bit longer now that that dev
862s	blog is what you're referencing
864s	said did not did not um
868s	promise the patch in september that is i
869s	think a a fairly big misconception about
871s	what that
872s	dev vlog said
874s	um devlog said i have to go back to my
876s	exact wording but basically the devlog
878s	was saying that we were aiming for
880s	roughly september
882s	not
883s	the patch will be in september those are
884s	two very different statements so we were
886s	at um
887s	september ish was probably gonna happen
890s	uh and then we announced that we were
892s	changing it to
894s	later than that so later than september
896s	ish
897s	uh which is not does not mean
900s	october which means later than september
902s	ish
903s	um for 0.9
905s	[Music]
910s	so hopefully that clears that up a bit
911s	we don't have a specific timeline for
913s	when the next patch will be
915s	but i see right after that someone says
917s	end of the turn probably probably please
919s	don't say that because it's uh
920s	unfortunately misleading and not true we
922s	get lots of questions
931s	unfortunately we don't have information
932s	on the details of the trading system
933s	that will be added to multiplayer when
935s	it comes along
937s	um we know that it's a very important
938s	topic for a lot of people and it is
940s	something we're taking very seriously
942s	and um
944s	have been like we've been playing
945s	multiplayer internally without any sort
947s	of item transferring system whatsoever
952s	and uh it sucks when you pick up an item
956s	that you know the person you're playing
957s	with uh can't use and that's just that
959s	just stings
961s	so we've definitely been feeling that
963s	for the past little while
964s	um
966s	we did have our first successful
971s	uh item transfer through networking
974s	from one character back to that same
975s	character but still i transferred
977s	through the network
978s	that has happened at least once now
987s	[Music]
995s	hard in
997s	[Music]
1004s	uh why did you decide to make much elsa
1007s	so hard to beat
1009s	well i mean she's
1012s	she's she's kind of the
1015s	uh like the storyline
1018s	finnish boss right now like that's
1019s	that's the that's the capstone
1022s	uh content for the campaign at the
1023s	moment
1026s	so you know it's it's supposed to be a
1028s	bit of a challenge like uh
1031s	i beat the game sort of being able to
1032s	say that as like a
1036s	an actual like difficult thing to do is
1038s	i think important
1041s	where am i going
1044s	and uh
1048s	we also are
1050s	while we're doing all those half things
1051s	we put in our are an experiment so we
1053s	experiment with uh with different
1056s	levels of difficulty as we go and then
1058s	definitely was definitely ramped up but
1060s	we knew it was gonna be quite hard um
1061s	we've had patches since then we could
1063s	have done we have but not as much as
1065s	some people would like probably
1067s	um it's also not
1069s	um i guess mandatory content to like get
1072s	into the in-game systems so we weren't
1074s	too worried about it being uh
1076s	like oppressed in that sense
1082s	uh why is there no waypoint there so i
1083s	can fix my build when i die without
1085s	running all the way back there
1086s	uh
1088s	yeah okay that might be that might be a
1090s	little uh a little frustrating so maybe
1092s	maybe a little mistake there
1094s	um
1096s	prob probably a probably a good good
1097s	suggestion there to
1099s	have something closer and what did you
1100s	deserve this you were awesome
1103s	every once in a while you get taken down
1107s	[Laughter]
1116s	well reference to a previous thing i
1118s	said well that's good to hear
1120s	that's wonderful you're welcome
1122s	um
1123s	i work as a web designer and i do
1125s	freelance so i'm pretty packed in time
1128s	um but i'm playing it whenever i can at
1130s	least right here yeah i mean like
1131s	there's there's no like because it's
1133s	your reference this is
1134s	written reference to
1135s	um
1136s	asking like what's necessary to join the
1138s	ct program things like that there's no
1140s	minimum number of hours played um
1142s	the only reason i mentioned like
1144s	actually plays them is just because i
1145s	know there's a lot of people that do
1147s	really want to get in and play maybe
1148s	they don't get in um if you get in and
1151s	you don't play at all it's it's
1153s	kind of like
1155s	if you're gonna take the time to to get
1157s	in and everything like um just just take
1159s	some time to play
1160s	at least it doesn't have to be a ton
1162s	this isn't a minimum number of hours you
1164s	have to play or anything like that
1167s	and this
1169s	is just going to get crushed
1180s	[Music]
1188s	here we go
1192s	nailed it
1194s	nailed it
1197s	all right let's make a ring
1201s	sure that one why not something the ones
1203s	are low enough level it might be we we
1207s	we probably don't have the uh
1211s	look i do it's a 55 right now
1220s	do we have
1222s	do we have a chest an exalted chest
1224s	piece
1225s	that's worth putting in that
1228s	at all
1230s	i guess i can just like
1245s	i'll take that
1251s	come on
1253s	something useful
1256s	anything useful
1264s	no no
1272s	where is a chest that i can do this with
1276s	or just come back
1283s	good job preparing for this mike way to
1284s	go
1289s	all better bulbasaur guys in there
1301s	uh what do ndas stand for non-disclosure
1305s	agreement
1306s	uh it's basically a
1308s	way for us to say here's the things that
1311s	we don't want you to talk about with
1313s	regards to the
1315s	um
1316s	the the the beta so it is it is a
1318s	private
1320s	uh program we're gonna be invited to it
1322s	we're basically saying like please don't
1324s	go tell everyone everything you see
1325s	because we're still working on it we
1326s	don't want this to be public yet i don't
1328s	think this works
1330s	does this work
1334s	no i didn't think so
1336s	um
1344s	whatever it's just
1353s	when we get under stress
1363s	we need an exalted first though we need
1365s	an exalted exalted chest
1367s	uh weapon or gloves that are actually
1370s	good to go in this
1386s	the nda is basically just so like and if
1388s	someone does start posting screenshots
1391s	and details of things that are covered
1393s	in the nba it's just a way that we can
1394s	go like okay we're kicking out of the
1395s	program now because you leaked a bunch
1397s	of information
1399s	you know it's
1404s	basically what it is
1409s	uh will there be any changes to druid
1410s	forms next patch possible um yes
1414s	however
1416s	um
1418s	i love getting questions that i can
1419s	answer accurately because of semantics
1422s	um
1423s	i cannot do that
1425s	any changes
1428s	you can replace druid form with
1429s	basically any uh
1431s	any skill in the game and um i can
1434s	answer that true because any changes
1436s	is pretty big
1438s	um
1440s	any significant changes probably not
1447s	um it's it's had a lot of work on it
1451s	recently and there's um
1453s	bigger fish to fry however we haven't
1454s	really spun up our
1457s	skill design
1459s	like it's it's going but it's not uh
1462s	we're not in full full games our skill
1465s	design mode right now
1468s	there's definitely less happening at the
1470s	back
1472s	[Music]
1477s	as we get as we get closer to the past
1478s	that rants up for sure always i cannot
1480s	do that
1483s	you like hearing the music get a good
1484s	void level no thank you thank thank
1487s	thank you
1490s	first time chad here just went
1491s	multiplayer when it's
1494s	ready um
1502s	all right i'm i i was wondering games
1505s	like pathfixel adds new
1507s	uh new gems and lost art ads and classes
1511s	what is the plan for last eparch in the
1512s	long run to keep things fresh in terms
1514s	of character customization i mean so
1516s	there's there's lots of lots of
1518s	different things we'll be adding
1521s	um and and they're pretty pretty varied
1524s	so there's
1525s	straightforward things that affect
1527s	basically every class every character
1528s	possibly
1530s	or actually any character class really
1532s	and that's just like unique items so new
1534s	unique items um lots of games do this
1536s	it's a pretty basic thing but it does
1538s	add a surprising amount of um build
1541s	options off of just like some one little
1543s	thing just like here's a unique item
1546s	can have big impacts
1548s	uh so yeah lots of unique items
1552s	um
1555s	just just gear rebalances and changes in
1557s	general i think is is something that
1559s	will be popular on basically every patch
1562s	um
1564s	we'll also be adding new skills as we go
1567s	sometimes it'll be replacing old ones
1568s	sometimes we'll be adding new ones
1570s	um there is room in this panel to add
1573s	more we intentionally built this in such
1575s	a way that we've got planned out spaces
1576s	to add more skills into it um there's
1578s	room to unlock more skills here there's
1581s	room to unlock more skills here
1583s	uh there's room to unlock more skills
1586s	just by level there's room like there's
1588s	room for to unlock new skills all over
1589s	the place um
1591s	we can we can even just changing skill
1593s	trees can have a big impact on builds
1595s	because it can impact multiple different
1596s	builds
1597s	for different things
1599s	it's an info in this tree
1601s	um
1604s	what else is there so like adding new
1605s	dungeons adding new
1607s	monoliths adding new systems
1610s	to things to do supplementary systems
1612s	for those systems and new in-game
1614s	systems um the question is really
1618s	oh character customization was
1619s	specifically part of them um
1623s	uh
1624s	adding whole new masteries adding an
1626s	extra mastery i'm adding a whole new
1628s	class
1629s	we've got all those sorts of things that
1630s	are long-term long-term plans
1633s	um
1637s	what
1639s	else i could not do that this this
1642s	bridge in this little temple
1644s	nice
1645s	this bridge is really funny
1647s	um so this bridge is
1649s	uh was the first well it used to be a
1651s	log not a stone like this and it was the
1655s	first bridge added to the game
1657s	um
1658s	and took a long time to get
1662s	functional and actually work nicely
1665s	um
1665s	i think it was that bridge i might think
1668s	of the wrong zone
1671s	zones have changed so many times but i
1673s	cannot do that
1675s	who's at that angle
1683s	all right
1685s	yeah don't forget to put that last
1686s	default game in the question so i see it
1688s	uh there's a question here
1690s	anyways thank you kane uh hey there i
1692s	saw a video of a devouring or void
1694s	knight clearing 500 corruption taking
1695s	all of his gear off and relying only on
1698s	skills yes i've seen that in the video
1700s	too making gearing not feeling very
1702s	impactful after skills reach level 20.
1704s	there's gonna be more balance here to
1705s	make the item chase more impactful um so
1707s	i will say like a couple caveats here
1710s	that that is a
1712s	uh extreme case
1715s	and um
1717s	most things
1718s	aren't that extreme that there are
1721s	several examples like that yes um but i
1724s	would say the majority of things are
1727s	are not that extreme
1730s	um
1736s	and then the answer to the question is
1737s	yes this is something we've been talking
1738s	about for a while we do want to
1740s	um shift the scaling
1743s	further away from
1745s	uh just strictly what you get out of
1746s	skill points by default and more towards
1748s	something that will scale as you go
1750s	through the game and are still getting
1752s	gear because that's the super late game
1754s	scaling that happens comes or chase i
1757s	shouldn't say the tail end of the of the
1759s	character progression comes from the
1761s	gear i kind of do that
1763s	um and and having the
1765s	percentage of damage that comes
1767s	so low does put a damper on that chase
1770s	so we are going to be looking at
1774s	ways that we can shift the balance of
1776s	power more towards gear and that's not
1778s	to say completely off of skills but just
1781s	more towards gear
1783s	but we've got a few different ways that
1784s	we're looking at doing that but it's
1786s	nothing set in stone yet
1790s	afternoon mike afternoon we meet
1792s	goodness ole
1794s	um
1797s	loved the new stuff to use on today's
1799s	dev blog awesome but here especially the
1801s	new sfx what's your favorite xfx that's
1804s	been implemented in the next update oh
1806s	this is the
1807s	problem i
1810s	have no idea anymore it's it's been so
1812s	long that things have just blended so
1814s	much
1815s	um
1816s	and i think we're getting to a point
1817s	where the s is actually not standing out
1819s	to me
1820s	which is a really good thing it's it's
1822s	um
1823s	it's one of those things that you don't
1825s	want to notice it
1827s	um
1828s	we're we're just
1831s	uh
1833s	yeah
1835s	[Music]
1839s	uh yeah we're we're uh
1842s	yeah sorry what was i saying you want to
1844s	get to the point where you don't see it
1845s	because if you it's one of those things
1846s	where when it blends and it's just feels
1849s	natural is is
1850s	when it's really good when you're like i
1852s	didn't notice it great that's how it
1855s	should be
1859s	all right
1861s	so i don't know the specific favorite
1862s	one sorry uh thank you very much lizard
1866s	welcome everybody from
1869s	uh lizards ready party i missed oh oh i
1872s	missed i missing everything oh i missed
1875s	everything ah
1877s	starting at the top here
1879s	uh just george thank you very much reese
1881s	up for five months in a row
1884s	awesome almost half a year very cool
1886s	and uh llama 8b as we said for 12 months
1890s	in a row you missed anything yes maybe
1893s	no i don't think so hello
1895s	thank you for being here glad to have
1897s	you with us
1898s	uh and then we've also got elizabeth
1900s	who's come with the ready party welcome
1902s	everyone from lizardstream i know you
1903s	guys were uh going over the dev blog so
1906s	if you have any questions about that
1907s	please feel free to ask
1910s	i will say
1912s	um
1914s	that i've not finished reading it myself
1915s	yet
1917s	so i'm not 100 sure everything's in
1919s	there so uh here's your chance to catch
1921s	me off guard
1924s	um i did not do that
1927s	also master sword thank you very much
1929s	for your 16 month resub
1936s	love it
1938s	thank you very much glad to have you
1939s	with us as always
1942s	uh all right i've got i got more
1944s	questions here let's keep answering them
1946s	um
1949s	are we going to expand the storyline
1952s	or will it be as long as it is now yeah
1954s	the storyline is definitely getting
1955s	expansions there's um there are three
1958s	more chapters planned for the storyline
1961s	um
1964s	just to kind of there's there's some
1966s	elements there's some holes some plot
1967s	holes right now that need filling you
1968s	know
1969s	um
1971s	and so the yeah there's
1973s	getting the space for all that there's
1975s	there's also uh happens to be a certain
1977s	bit of the storyline that's kind of
1979s	under explored
1981s	[Music]
1983s	intent
1984s	[Music]
1989s	uh
1991s	you gonna make more things for endgame
1992s	absolutely
1998s	um the
2000s	like there's there's all sorts of little
2001s	things we have planned for for any game
2003s	there's lots of big things you plan for
2004s	in game two um
2006s	i think the most important thing at this
2008s	point is
2010s	um
2011s	more stuff to do in monolith so it's
2013s	it's
2014s	um
2015s	there's more
2016s	[Music]
2017s	consideration of variance on what's
2019s	gonna happen and there's more uh
2021s	engagement for okay i'm gonna treat this
2023s	echo differently because it's a xyz
2027s	um yeah
2029s	when will the last three classes get out
2031s	the last three mastery classes will be
2033s	released sometime
2035s	um at the latest by 1.0 so
2039s	sometime between now and 1.0 launch
2041s	inclusive they will be released
2044s	i don't have any more voice than that
2047s	important question what do you like to
2048s	put in a burrito oh good question i love
2052s	a good burrito oh my god
2054s	uh so it's gotta have a um
2057s	it's gonna have rice and debris i really
2058s	like rice and burritos
2059s	a lot of people don't but my my
2062s	burrito's gonna have rice in it um i'm
2064s	gonna prefer like some chicken
2067s	uh he's gonna have black beans
2069s	um
2072s	some cheese lots lots of like jalapenos
2074s	something pickled probably like like a
2076s	pickled cabbage
2078s	or uh do that
2080s	just anything with like that that acid
2082s	in in there um
2085s	it's gonna have it's gonna have lots of
2087s	hot sauce lots of spice
2089s	um
2090s	avocado tomato cheese
2095s	i cannot do that
2097s	yeah
2099s	i think it sounds like a pretty good
2100s	burrito lots of salsa love salsa
2103s	like salsa verde
2105s	good like homemade salsa with like like
2107s	chunks like fresh onion and peppers and
2110s	tomatoes
2117s	uh how much will cosmetics cost when
2119s	they get out it's we don't have set
2121s	prices that i can share on like this
2123s	cosmetic will be this much type thing
2125s	yet um we're still working on details
2128s	try and keep them reasonable and
2131s	you know appropriate for what they are
2132s	they'll scale based on on what they are
2134s	so like uh i cannot do that i i don't
2137s	know um
2140s	something that makes your fireball a
2141s	slightly lighter shade of red would be
2144s	less that's not an actual ftx or
2146s	lighting
2148s	would be
2149s	would cost less than say a
2152s	um
2153s	a full character visual overhaul that
2156s	came with a pet and
2158s	several uh ability view effects changes
2160s	you know like like the depending on what
2161s	it is it'll change how much it costs
2165s	but i like with everything we'll
2169s	try and keep it as like reasonable and
2171s	fair as possible and listen to feedback
2173s	and all that good stuff
2177s	i think we have a pretty good track
2178s	record on fronts like that
2181s	because i hope so
2183s	i don't think it changes to ailment
2185s	where effect becomes now penetration
2188s	gonna make poison even stronger than
2189s	other ailments no i don't
2192s	uh will paladin get more skills and is
2196s	it better to play paladin with other
2197s	players because of the auras
2199s	the aura is quite strong yes um
2202s	there's there's lots of things that
2203s	class different classes bring to
2206s	uh bring to the party
2210s	uh
2211s	pun not intended but
2213s	gleefully accepted uh
2215s	that uh that that paladins can't do um
2219s	they'll have that has similar impact
2222s	like just uh rogues rose can haste party
2224s	members really easily which is which is
2226s	really nice to have um
2229s	just like party hates all the time is
2230s	great just like hasting up minions oh so
2233s	nice
2234s	uh anyways
2235s	um
2237s	yes paladin will get more skills missing
2239s	one skill and the skills have a tree yet
2240s	so they're missing a skill and a tree
2244s	uh yeah
2247s	i cannot do that
2259s	i think you've talked about this before
2261s	maybe but that's okay i love talking
2263s	about it again
2265s	um but right now it seems that there
2267s	isn't much reason to fully explore
2268s	echoes yeah this is kind of what i was
2269s	touching on just a little bit ago
2271s	um
2272s	does the team have any ideas that you
2274s	can talk about to make exploring echoes
2276s	feel more rewarding
2277s	yes i'm just gonna there's a question
2280s	bonus stability is nice but still by
2282s	myself just killing stuff on the way
2283s	objective rather than exploring yeah so
2286s	i think i think what happened was
2288s	um so so the short short answer is yes i
2290s	think bonus stability did a really good
2292s	job in getting people to kill the
2294s	enemies that were on the way to their
2295s	objectives so before that i was seeing a
2297s	lot of people being like i don't kill
2298s	anything on the way to the objective i
2300s	just rushed the objective and that's it
2302s	i cannot do that i think bonus stability
2304s	is now at least getting people to kill
2306s	the things on the way there which is
2308s	good news
2309s	um it's not
2311s	exactly everything we want with it but
2312s	it is very good
2315s	um
2317s	and i think you're right i think we do
2318s	need something else to
2322s	encourage exploration of echoes and i
2324s	think part of the big thing that that
2326s	that would that could make that system
2327s	feel really good is that it's not every
2330s	echo because that goes relatively pretty
2331s	short
2332s	and having something that says like
2334s	that indicates hey hey
2337s	this is a good one you should explore
2339s	this one i think i think you should
2340s	explore this one and maybe it's not like
2342s	a guaranteed explore this morning you
2343s	get something but like
2345s	i heard a rumor
2347s	that there's something good here if you
2348s	explore it
2350s	i could i could be it's just a rumor i
2351s	could be wrong but like
2353s	i think you should explore this one and
2355s	um and putting something in in
2358s	those in in everyone so how there be
2360s	like a chance to find
2362s	um
2363s	echo exploration mechanic four
2366s	i don't know i just don't want to give
2367s	it a name and um
2369s	then have certain echoes that have like
2374s	20 times the chance to have this thing
2376s	so like yeah if you just are randomly
2379s	playing you'll every once in a while
2381s	you'll find one and then like
2383s	uh
2383s	[Music]
2384s	every once in a while you'll also then
2386s	find like the the echoes where it's like
2389s	you should explore this one and and most
2391s	of the time in the ones where it tells
2393s	you to explore you'll find you'll find
2394s	one of these things whatever it is
2397s	and it could be something i think as
2399s	simple as
2400s	um
2401s	a room with a hard enemy in it that
2404s	drops a bunch of gear like
2406s	that that would be the probably the most
2408s	basic version or just a treasure chest
2409s	it would be like the most basic version
2411s	i don't think that's good enough um
2414s	but like you know just just something
2416s	where
2417s	hey if you explore you're gonna get
2418s	rewarded maybe it's like
2421s	uh there's a treasure goblin
2423s	in this in this echo somewhere yeah uh
2426s	or like there's an increased chance to
2428s	find treasure goblins in this echo or
2430s	you know think things like that and and
2432s	it can be really simple stuff like that
2433s	it can then also if we wanted to and
2436s	have the time to develop something like
2438s	this uh be a little bit more complex
2441s	like um some sort of meta progression
2444s	system that's separate from the monolith
2446s	entirely uh it can be some sort of
2450s	uh like you know you'll find just like a
2454s	map
2454s	like a map device with a map loaded in
2456s	already like in the in the map and maybe
2459s	it's like you can find a like a mini
2461s	echo inside the echo or something like
2462s	that and or maybe there's just like a
2464s	uh off off-theme dungeon that's sort of
2467s	like grafted onto the echo that you can
2469s	go into
2471s	um i think this thing there's lots of
2473s	room for really cool stuff there and i
2475s	don't think that
2477s	uh like i know we don't have anything
2478s	developed enough that we'd be like this
2480s	is what we're gonna do but there's lots
2481s	of room to explore space in there and
2482s	i'd like to see something like that
2484s	um even if it's just like a basic
2486s	version of it even an infancy version of
2488s	it to to to arrive relatively quick i
2491s	cannot do that
2494s	won't be 0.9
2496s	but you know just just uh
2498s	sooner than later i think would be
2499s	beneficial
2502s	hello
2504s	hello
2514s	is the warlock mastery coming in the
2516s	next update
2517s	now that i know
2520s	no no it's not
2521s	unless unless something drastically
2523s	changes between now and the next update
2525s	no i kind of want to do that
2527s	we have not started working on the
2529s	warlock
2531s	i cannot do that
2537s	uh is it intended that holy trail
2538s	doesn't work with divine fury uh the
2541s	splits don't spread the trail which is
2543s	very sad yeah
2545s	um
2546s	it gets a little nutty
2548s	uh
2549s	i cannot do that and i'm pretty sure it
2552s	was an intentional
2552s	[Music]
2553s	no no doesn't work moment
2560s	might not be necessary to not work but
2562s	as far as i remember it was it was
2564s	intentional
2568s	i cannot stand down or die
2573s	why would a bridge be that hard to make
2574s	i could not do that
2576s	because we were noobs this is five years
2578s	ago i'm talking about
2585s	that's right walk into the trail buddy
2587s	which won't hurt you it's nice
2589s	healing light soothing holy light
2593s	any plans to remove the duplicate runs
2595s	in place of
2597s	place like all the outcasts unlock 62 or
2599s	66 is meant to be a power choice um i
2602s	think a lot of people know there's no
2604s	plans to change your ground um
2610s	it's there for a few reasons one is the
2612s	signal to to especially the fact that
2614s	it's the very first one it's the signal
2616s	to people that you are expected to
2618s	complete these more than once
2620s	not necessarily in
2622s	unempowered mode but for new players
2624s	that maybe are struggling through it
2626s	it's it's partially a signpost to say
2628s	hey it's okay to come back and do this
2630s	again because you can unlock two
2631s	different things
2634s	on top of that it's also
2636s	um easy enough to
2639s	to just do that in empowered for the
2641s	other on
2644s	um i know we had talked or no it's
2647s	someone made a suggestion
2649s	about once you unlock empowered unlocks
2651s	all the islands and i
2652s	think that was considered at one
2662s	what point to that
2663s	probably nothing
2667s	why cap armor shred at 10 sacks
2673s	i didn't know we did that i thought i
2674s	thought that one stacked
2679s	i don't know if you're here when i said
2680s	this but i haven't read the development
2681s	update yet
2682s	uh let's uh
2695s	resistance
2698s	resistance shredding ailments resistance
2701s	training elements including shock will
2702s	stack to 10 from 20.
2705s	uh i don't think this sounds
2708s	red
2710s	i don't see where it says that lizard
2712s	please tell me if i'm wrong
2715s	sorry i'm going to skip that question
2716s	because i think it might be not right
2720s	i'm not sure multiple question have you
2722s	all considered adding more generic
2724s	defensive or offensive conversions into
2726s	the skill tree i mean yes
2729s	[Music]
2730s	like physical the cold damage or
2731s	percentage physical damage taken as cold
2734s	have you all considered low life
2736s	mechanics to take advantage of endurance
2738s	investment um
2741s	so so uh yes we've considered yes we
2744s	consider all those things um
2748s	we really don't want to so okay
2751s	tackle this one
2753s	endurance theming is really about
2756s	your character's toughness the grip the
2759s	ability to hold on in a dire situation
2761s	that's that's what endurance is
2763s	um
2765s	energy shield or ward as we have in the
2767s	game is a magical protection barrier and
2771s	has nothing to do with your characters
2777s	things can put me wrong here but it's
2779s	it's it's a magical ability it's not a
2782s	physical
2784s	property of your character it's not a
2786s	like
2789s	i'm like i know like this character is
2794s	tough and beefy so it's like the
2796s	thematic opposites that's what i'm
2798s	trying to get
2799s	um
2801s	so so we we don't have endurance
2804s	functioning with the board um
2807s	almost all
2810s	i don't think of an example
2812s	almost all low-life builds will need to
2814s	utilize war in order to survive um so
2816s	there's this like thematic
2819s	conflict with ward and endurance right
2822s	away
2823s	i kind of do that um
2825s	and so we pretty intentionally didn't
2828s	make them
2829s	functional together even even though
2831s	there is that like mechanical synergy
2833s	that's like a lot of people when they
2835s	first see that where it's like oh my god
2837s	i can sit at ten percent health and
2840s	when i take damage to them my endurance
2842s	blow my nervous that kicks in um and
2845s	that's why the the wording i think it
2846s	says like damage to
2851s	some somewhere where it's talking about
2852s	endurance it says
2854s	like the damage is reduced damage to
2856s	health is reduced by
2859s	instead of damage to war or just damage
2863s	um
2864s	so yes we've considered it we
2866s	intentionally don't do it
2870s	it's possible that we could add
2873s	like an item that causes that synergy to
2875s	work somehow maybe like um
2879s	while at low life your you have
2881s	um your your
2883s	while at low life your endurance
2886s	threshold
2888s	um
2889s	is your
2891s	like minimum
2894s	ward amount or something like that or
2895s	it's your new like it's your new zero
2897s	for baseline ward calculations for decay
2899s	or something like that you know like um
2902s	some way to make them synergize a bit
2903s	but but less less direct
2913s	ah i'm getting an audio uh request
2920s	sorry about that i appreciate
2923s	uh knowing that because i'm playing with
2924s	a little bit because i do really want to
2925s	have a little bit of audio that's why
2927s	i'm like spiked the music i feel like it
2929s	was the
2929s	least
2931s	not problematic
2935s	uh so yeah let me know if there's more
2937s	problems again and kane feel free to
2938s	pick me directly again if it's a problem
2940s	still all right next question oh yeah
2942s	i'm sorry
2943s	uh multi multipart uh conversion
2946s	offenses indicators yeah we we don't
2948s	want every single skill to have
2950s	conversions for every single tree we
2952s	want the conversions to be thematic and
2953s	appropriate for that class overall um
2956s	and and and just having like uh
2959s	every conversion for every skill that is
2962s	even thematic is
2963s	um
2964s	like
2966s	it's the whole of everything special
2967s	nothing special
2969s	problem again
2972s	so
2972s	uh we know they're popular mechanics and
2975s	we'll continue to add them into skills
2977s	um but we really are
2979s	uh don't we don't want to get in a
2980s	situation where there's just
2983s	every skill can be converted to every
2985s	other element you know like that's that
2986s	we don't want to get there partially
2988s	from a um like a design standpoint
2990s	partially just from a
2991s	like every time we convert a skill
2993s	that's another vfx that gets added to it
2995s	um and then every time we have a
2997s	mechanical change in the skill to how it
3000s	functions um it's multiplied by the
3002s	number of uh element changes so if we
3004s	have
3005s	like
3006s	three mechanical changes and three
3009s	um elemental conversions
3012s	like it's
3014s	plus the base one so it's actually like
3016s	16 different versions you have to have
3017s	for that
3020s	it's a lot
3023s	and then just like adding one more it
3025s	doesn't add one it adds
3026s	however many the other category there is
3028s	so in that situation adding one actually
3030s	adds four
3032s	and it makes further ones also more
3034s	costly that makes any sense
3039s	all right uh in
3041s	in the june dev update we saw the new
3044s	enemy avoid penance with a really cool
3046s	on death effect are all the reworked
3048s	enemies point nine going to have
3049s	something
3050s	yes uh
3053s	they may
3055s	i think so i think they all have it i'm
3057s	like all's a dangerous word
3060s	um
3063s	i think they all have it
3065s	if not all
3067s	the vast majority can we can we go with
3068s	vast majority instead of all let's do
3070s	that
3073s	and a lot of them are are more subdued
3075s	um so
3076s	that one was picked specifically because
3078s	it's really awesome
3080s	um not all of them are that awesome
3084s	um
3086s	but yeah like like like a little a
3087s	little tiny enemy dying isn't going to
3089s	have as
3090s	in
3092s	involved of an effect as like
3094s	big boys yeah
3097s	that's that's the standard that's the
3098s	new norm
3103s	uh could you turn down the in-game
3104s	character errors yes
3107s	sorry about that
3109s	have you guys considered adding those
3111s	exploration things as modifiers that
3113s	apply to the next x maps after
3115s	completing a map like current modifier
3117s	system on models yeah um
3119s	like uh a a reward in a monolith one of
3123s	the one things we have talked about is
3124s	is having a reward node in the model of
3126s	being something on lines of like your
3129s	next
3131s	seven maps
3132s	have increased chance to find
3135s	echo mechanics 17.
3141s	oh that'll be good item there
3149s	yeah that's a good item that's good item
3151s	take it
3154s	we do pretty nice boots
3163s	what am i doing right run run places
3166s	oops you confused mike you did confuse
3168s	mine
3175s	will it be added
3178s	more different thing will there be added
3180s	more different things that gear rings
3183s	weapons etc
3188s	will there be added more different
3190s	things
3192s	that gear rings weapons etc
3196s	like like new new new gear slots
3200s	i would say that's pretty unlikely to
3202s	have new gear slots coming out
3204s	um
3207s	it's been not impossible but we're we're
3210s	quite happy with the slots that are
3211s	there and there's a lot of things that
3214s	would have to change like there's tons
3217s	of tons of things that have to change we
3218s	added a new gear slot
3220s	um
3221s	i'd say it would be more likely that we
3223s	would add a new supplementary
3226s	um
3227s	progression system
3229s	that caused
3230s	character changes to happen
3233s	along a similar but different line that
3235s	things like blessings do so blessings
3238s	in the strictest sense of the term
3240s	blessings are items i know it doesn't
3242s	seem like it because they don't behave
3243s	like items in any way
3245s	but blessings are items actually
3248s	you can't interact them the same way you
3249s	direct normal items but yes blessings
3251s	are items
3254s	um
3256s	that's why you get a very item-like
3257s	tooltip with them
3259s	uh yeah
3260s	there's real basic items
3265s	so yeah it's
3266s	possible we could see other
3267s	[Music]
3269s	um progression system axes that would
3271s	add new item slots and i think that's
3273s	the question you're asking
3278s	oh afterwards it says can have on it
3282s	the same person
3283s	so oh wait so are you asking if um like
3286s	like more affix slots on items this has
3288s	four affix slots
3290s	um
3291s	three implicits which is very high for a
3294s	number of implicits and one sealed affix
3296s	this is about the max number of
3298s	uh of affects lots of different types
3301s	implicit suffix and steel that's that
3302s	you'd see on an item we're not really
3304s	interested in increasing that number we
3306s	think it's pretty high already
3308s	um we know that a lot of things have
3310s	like the
3311s	have six affixes the three and three um
3314s	it's possible we could increase to that
3316s	down the road there is there are systems
3317s	built in that would make that
3319s	functionally possible
3321s	we don't have any intention to do it at
3322s	the moment
3327s	it is so unbelievably hot in here
3330s	my goodness don't get to drink water
3332s	everybody
3349s	all right let's keep going
3352s	[Music]
3354s	some people get turned off by the
3356s	animations feel of combat are there any
3357s	plans to smooth things out after the
3358s	multiple update i mean yeah we'll
3360s	continue after the multiplayer update as
3362s	well um there's
3364s	a huge swath of changes to that coming
3366s	in the multiplayer update itself
3368s	um
3370s	and uh so we just released a devlog
3371s	today that talks about that the last two
3374s	devlogs talk about that pretty heavily
3375s	um
3380s	whatever that's a terrible idea for me
3382s	um
3384s	but yeah like we we are
3386s	yes is the short answer yes we're
3388s	definitely looking at that um it's
3390s	always getting better there's new things
3391s	in the ad all the time
3393s	every single
3395s	ability and enemy in the game is getting
3397s	changes to that
3402s	uh i play poe and i'm looking for a new
3404s	game i'm worried about your late game
3407s	being shallow oh it's unfortunate um
3412s	it's getting deeper as we go
3417s	we do we do work hard to add depth to
3419s	our systems without um
3421s	[Music]
3423s	going too far into
3425s	um
3426s	like like
3427s	when we add depth we'd like to have a
3429s	good complexity rate of return
3432s	what does that mean um so we we like to
3436s	if we're adding
3438s	we don't like to add complexity without
3439s	depth
3440s	and if we are adding complexity we like
3443s	it to have as much depth as we can when
3445s	we add it
3447s	um this is i said we'd like to because
3449s	there's exceptions to everything
3458s	um
3461s	and this is things we've been talking
3463s	about already this stream too just like
3465s	adding in more uh more systems to do in
3468s	the monolith i think it's a big part of
3469s	that because the model is sort of the
3471s	like
3472s	the mapping of our end game and and so
3475s	while it's not the only thing that we
3477s	want to have to be able to do it in-game
3479s	um it is the primary thing that a lot of
3481s	the other systems will either interact
3483s	with
3484s	or um
3487s	piggybacks the wrong word but the
3489s	there's going to be interaction there
3491s	for sure
3500s	and and i think it's more important that
3502s	we have
3504s	really high quality systems in place
3507s	um i think quality over quantity will do
3509s	as well at launch
3511s	um
3512s	and and there's there's tons of time to
3514s	add more
3515s	more and more and more and more and more
3517s	um
3520s	yeah just keeping that quality bar up is
3522s	really important to us
3527s	i'm really liking this build like i know
3528s	i'm very over level i'm just crushing
3530s	everything but i'm having fun
3532s	i like the way it plays
3535s	i really gotta get into empowered here
3540s	i i enabled it and i guess it didn't
3542s	save i'm kicking myself
3546s	i'll play this for a couple weeks
3547s	because of that
3549s	so let's see i want to see what does
3550s	harder content we'll go do let's go do a
3552s	proper um
3556s	exalted tune did i like weirdly filter
3558s	out i'll show all okay
3562s	i guess i'm just not into power so i'm
3563s	not seeing any exalteds yet
3579s	stop down
3589s	uh did you consider adding the ability
3591s	to use spears with shields oh yes we
3594s	have considered that but when the shield
3596s	is equipped
3597s	you get for example damage penalty yeah
3599s	we have looked at that um i think
3601s	there's room for
3604s	um
3605s	i just room for a new item base type
3607s	that's a one-handed spear
3611s	and i'd really like to see that instead
3612s	i think there's there's more room for
3614s	um like interesting things you could add
3616s	with that
3617s	you could
3619s	maybe add other things that go well with
3621s	it thematically at the same time
3627s	definitely no hints at all but yeah
3629s	there's there's definitely intentional
3631s	gaps in the gearing system as far as
3634s	item base types go yeah not the game
3636s	system as a whole but just like like
3638s	there's certain item based types that
3639s	we've kind of intentionally
3641s	left out
3642s	um
3643s	and a lot of people just spot those
3645s	pretty quickly these
3647s	like um like fist and claw style weapons
3650s	that that i guess relate to d2 assassin
3652s	d3 monk that sort of style thing
3655s	um
3657s	one-handed spears
3658s	uh
3660s	there's
3661s	yeah
3663s	there's a few others as well but yeah so
3665s	there's
3666s	some intentional gaps
3667s	um and sometimes those are their just
3670s	because
3673s	when we were setting up
3675s	uh animations for things initially we
3677s	didn't have as much manpower and needed
3680s	to save some
3681s	uh save some development time so we
3683s	would cut them initially
3685s	sometimes those were because we there's
3687s	a specific
3688s	uh future possible class or mastery
3691s	class that we really want to do that's
3692s	going to need that as like an iconic
3694s	weapon
3697s	interestingly so we have you like class
3699s	specific helmet chest and relic
3703s	um
3704s	initially before we actually even split
3706s	to a three mastery system we were just
3707s	in a two mastery system we had uh unique
3711s	weapon types for each class
3713s	um each base class had a unique
3716s	armor
3717s	and each
3719s	uh mastery class had a unique weapon
3721s	type associated with it
3724s	was the original plan for that
3728s	and there's there's certain weapons that
3729s	we definitely say like okay this is
3731s	really good in this class like mark's
3732s	been in bows as an example where like
3734s	basically that's all you can use it on
3735s	because nothing else can
3737s	use
3738s	there's no bow abilities elsewhere right
3740s	um
3742s	and and like that that could still
3743s	change that's not us that's not that's
3745s	not a hard and fast rule that's set in
3746s	stone forever that is a um
3749s	the way it is now type
3752s	more than anything
3756s	oh this just like leaves trails of death
3758s	all over the arena it's great
3771s	all right
3775s	uh we're getting closer to the end i
3777s	guess i'm just kind of cruising through
3778s	here i should just finish this off and
3785s	uh
3786s	what's the end game of this game also
3789s	i'm i'm um
3791s	showing some right now this is the model
3793s	of the fate
3794s	um
3795s	and it is
3797s	it's a collection of different timelines
3801s	that each have in them you may have just
3803s	seen on the screen a second ago the
3805s	timeline
3806s	echo web
3807s	um for for this one that i'm in i'm
3809s	currently in this one
3813s	at the top and this one up here at the
3814s	last round
3817s	um and each one of these when you
3818s	complete them you get a specific bonus
3819s	that goes with it i select from a pool
3825s	you select from a pool that's uh chosen
3827s	at the top
3829s	when you finish it
3832s	okay
3834s	well that's that's not awesome
3837s	um and then uh
3840s	we'll we'll go through a little more end
3841s	game stuff here just
3843s	there are several different dungeons
3845s	that each require a key so temporal
3847s	sanctum like this arbor and silver
3849s	bastion
3850s	but each have unique mechanics and
3852s	abilities that go with them and a unique
3853s	reward at the end um and then we also
3855s	have an arena
3857s	that's a special arena but there are
3859s	um
3862s	yeah there's special arena keys uh that
3867s	i'll let you jump further in so you can
3869s	save part of your run if you want
3875s	you know i'm actually gonna go do an
3877s	arena run let's let's see what happens
3879s	oh my gosh
3882s	except one nearby
3884s	this this character is actually the same
3886s	character that i used
3887s	because i played javelin um
3891s	lightning lightning throwing javelin on
3893s	on stream previously
3897s	and
3899s	it's the same character that i just
3901s	modified
3916s	here we go
3924s	uh and yeah so you find keys
3926s	anywhere primarily usually in the
3928s	monolith itself uh and then you get
3930s	access to the dungeons
3932s	and the arena and those are your sort of
3934s	three three mechanics uh ending systems
3937s	that you bounce between right now
3939s	um
3940s	we are planning on adding more downwards
3942s	amazon but those are the primary three
3943s	right
3946s	all the totems we previewed the new
3948s	totems last week and in the dev vlog
3950s	that just went out like an hour ago um
3954s	the new totems look so nice
3957s	[Music]
3964s	i just want to get to you come on
3976s	[Music]
3981s	10 rings like in real life so the um
3984s	[Music]
3986s	uh rings hold
3988s	a significant amount of magical power
3991s	and when when they get too close to each
3994s	other
3995s	they can interfere with each other um
3997s	and your and your fingers fall off
3999s	basically
4001s	um so you can only
4003s	generally fit safely
4005s	one ring on each hand
4008s	or else you're just risking losing some
4010s	digits
4014s	stand down or die
4016s	also
4018s	it is a gearing nightmare to have how
4022s	many ring slots
4029s	these files i'm fighting are so useless
4031s	for me it's comical
4035s	let's just go to my stash and see if
4037s	i've got some
4041s	[Music]
4043s	have you thought of a key ring for
4044s	dungeon unlocks yeah
4048s	i definitely have
4052s	uh just second oh oh but having um still
4055s	like we still want you to find keys not
4057s	not having like uh just unlock the whole
4059s	tier forever
4063s	but having a way to store those keys
4066s	uh more efficiently than this
4072s	i should just go to
4074s	let's let's go do an endless one and see
4076s	what happens let's see let's see if we
4077s	can get anything any traction
4080s	level 90 here
4084s	um so we don't we're not
4085s	let's
4086s	not start with our hands off the
4088s	keyboard that sounds great
4091s	oh my goodness
4093s	okay
4095s	yeah i see what you guys did there you
4097s	tried to kill me um
4100s	that was unfortunate
4105s	apparently
4106s	i need to learn how to play
4108s	because i'm a super noob
4133s	get less less bad now
4137s	okay we're gonna we're gonna do better
4138s	than uh wave
4140s	that's nice
4144s	all right just a second alakar 111
4146s	do you plan to make minion flat damage
4148s	also adapted because it seems to suffer
4151s	from the same scaling problems
4152s	we don't
4155s	do we have a flat much flat added minion
4158s	damage
4163s	uh
4165s	i mean so so
4168s	it can be
4169s	um done the same way so you can have
4172s	um
4175s	oh healthy and when stunned there's
4177s	there's at least something that does
4178s	something yeah
4181s	let's see there's some idols in here
4182s	just real quick
4186s	vitality one vitality
4189s	two vitality three vitality uh uh
4196s	[Music]
4202s	okay i don't care don't care
4208s	super duper don't care
4210s	about any of these idols
4212s	it's just little tiny ones that kind of
4215s	suck for me
4220s	[Music]
4223s	dog damage that's good we can use that
4227s	[Music]
4235s	health
4236s	[Music]
4239s	health
4242s	[Music]
4245s	help
4245s	[Music]
4250s	damn sure okay cool good enough
4255s	uh 10 part aways let's go
4258s	uh
4259s	i'm answering questions
4261s	uh yeah so i don't i don't
4263s	i could be wrong i think that most
4264s	minion damage
4266s	is uh is is
4268s	increased and and more that you see show
4270s	up you don't see much in the way of flat
4273s	added minion damage
4274s	um
4276s	oh i could be wrong with this i'm trying
4277s	to think
4278s	uh
4280s	likely we would have kept it typed
4284s	um because it's generally not a weapon
4287s	and and and most and the big the big
4289s	change to to damage types to become
4291s	adaptive is for flat added on weapon
4295s	bases so it's we're not we're not
4296s	removing a stat from the game or
4298s	anything like that this is we're
4299s	actually even adding a stat to the game
4301s	um
4302s	we're we're just changing which which
4304s	stats show up on most
4307s	weapon bases
4308s	um
4311s	and and and that's in the flat added
4313s	damage and pleasants for weapons
4317s	for the most part i don't think the
4318s	minions have that
4322s	[Music]
4335s	[Music]
4340s	i could be wrong with that please let me
4341s	know if i'm wrong though
4344s	uh will there be a reliable way to get
4346s	dungeon keys in the future such as model
4348s	rewards or will you keep them all as
4350s	random drops maybe i don't know they're
4352s	pretty abundant right now maybe maybe
4354s	i'm wrong about that but it feels like
4356s	when i play on stream i feel like in the
4358s	two hours that i play i get like
4362s	and maybe it's an extreme case i don't
4364s	know
4364s	um
4365s	but i feel like i'm getting
4367s	you know two three four sometimes i get
4370s	way more than that in two hours
4375s	i'll keep an eye out though so if you've
4376s	got feedback on that
4378s	head on to the feedback places and leave
4379s	feedback and we'll consider that
4380s	feedback
4383s	uh hello can you guys already tell us
4385s	more about how multiplayer balance will
4386s	work for example how will you balance
4388s	the dungeon or the damage and health of
4390s	enemies if the player in the party with
4392s	two or three people so it doesn't end up
4394s	being too easy absolutely great question
4397s	um
4398s	there's there's the so the basic stuff
4400s	we're doing is when more people are in
4403s	the party the health of the enemies goes
4404s	up
4405s	simple
4406s	um you got more damage it's easier to
4408s	kill stuff go ahead uh we don't increase
4411s	the damage output of of the enemies
4413s	because um
4416s	the way the way games rpgs work just in
4418s	general is you're usually bouncing
4420s	around how much damage you can take in a
4421s	single hit
4423s	um
4424s	and trying to have health recovery
4427s	options so that you can
4429s	um take a hit not die and recover back
4432s	up to the point where you can take a hit
4433s	and not die this time with more um
4436s	more in-game stuff generally
4438s	and i know not all builds are like this
4439s	either but that's normally what your
4441s	most builds are trying to do i think and
4443s	um
4446s	so so in order to sort of help with that
4448s	we're quite often looking at um
4452s	just just increasing health of enemies
4453s	rather than damage output because uh or
4457s	you'd be ending up with
4459s	situations where
4460s	like people have a build where it's like
4463s	all right this build can play solo but
4464s	this build can't play multiplayer um
4467s	because the damage that it takes just
4468s	kills it
4470s	um and we know there are like defensive
4472s	buffs you can get from playing a
4473s	multiplayer and everything uh to help
4474s	with that but
4476s	you know we don't want to make those
4477s	mandatory
4481s	um we are looking at mechanical there's
4483s	more things we are still looking at and
4484s	could potentially do uh to increase
4487s	difficulty possibly through mechanical
4488s	changes um an example i'd like to give
4491s	within with answering this question is
4493s	uh relating it to diablo 2. surprise um
4497s	i like to do that a lot and
4499s	uh diablo himself indiana 2 has an
4502s	ability like a bone cage ability which
4505s	is i think a fantastic multiplayer
4507s	ability and a really awful single player
4509s	ability um because it's so hard to avoid
4512s	it in single player and you can get
4513s	stuck in it you're just uber you just
4515s	can't do anything you can't like get
4517s	yourself out of it
4519s	um
4520s	so
4521s	we are we're still looking at getting um
4524s	mechanical changes if we can where you
4527s	are able to
4528s	uh like like things that you can do in
4530s	multiplayer you can't do a single player
4532s	that make it functionally more
4534s	challenging and more engaging more
4535s	interesting but doesn't actually make it
4537s	so your character suddenly stops
4544s	these guys are
4547s	quite strong
4563s	oh
4564s	question here don't forget to ping me
4566s	with questions any idea how you imp how
4568s	you're implementing a trade system yet
4570s	uh yes but not that we're willing to
4571s	share understand the bizarre concept of
4573s	player shops i haven't scrapped yes
4575s	great game by the way well done team
4576s	thank you very much yep uh
4578s	no information yet start interacting in
4581s	a way that for example like unlocking
4583s	mono blessing
4585s	helping everyone
4586s	else
4589s	is this a fallout from another question
4598s	i don't see this person earlier
4604s	interacting in a way that for example
4607s	like unlocking mono blessing helping
4610s	every else
4620s	uh i think what this is asking is about
4623s	um it's about unlocking the monolith
4628s	um
4629s	like when you finish a monolith and you
4631s	get blessings as an option to pick from
4633s	it like being able to reselect those
4635s	down the road without having to go do
4637s	the model again
4639s	i think is what this is asking um that's
4641s	not currently the plan but
4643s	you know
4645s	if you feel strongly that something we
4646s	should do and you want to feel free to
4648s	head on over to feedback forums and
4651s	leave feedback for us so we will
4653s	look at and i mean
4656s	who knows right stand down
4671s	um
4687s	that was a weak set of damage like what
4689s	where's my reward huh huh i'm i'm
4692s	shocked i thought i was just gonna
4693s	crumble when i got uh
4696s	i got into this uh
4699s	arena i thought i was just gonna get my
4701s	butt handed to me
4703s	but surprisingly i'm
4705s	not that's cool
4707s	i'm just gonna pop out because
4710s	oh it's fun in here but i don't want to
4711s	keep doing this forever
4718s	what do you want i see
4722s	a new dialog system coming soon oh yeah
4726s	that's a nice change i see the old one
4727s	and i'm like yeah
4730s	which i remember saying the exact same
4731s	thing when we went to this one as a new
4733s	system
4737s	i need more exalteds to build
4741s	one of these three things up with do we
4744s	have any
4747s	gloves i could do next okay let's look
4750s	for exalted gloves
4752s	can we just
4759s	there's some
4761s	there's some exalted gloves that i could
4763s	use
4764s	okay we got a bunch
4780s	unexalted
4781s	[Music]
4794s	good
4799s	okay we're just gonna go that's enough
4801s	uh
4807s	we're gonna do gloves
4810s	all right next question is it is there a
4812s	known bug with path of judgment
4814s	increased healing effectiveness doesn't
4816s	work
4817s	trail dps
4819s	in the tooltip of it
4821s	uh no there's not
4824s	um there's not an unknown bug either
4826s	really
4827s	um
4831s	because
4834s	so what i think you're asking here and i
4836s	could be wrong um
4839s	but this
4840s	alt tool tip here
4843s	um none of these alt tools that show
4846s	secondary triggered abilities four
4848s	skills take into account everything on
4852s	the tree
4853s	most time they don't take into account a
4855s	lot of different things
4858s	they're really there more so to show you
4860s	details of what the skill is
4863s	um
4864s	and
4870s	this one's really exciting i think it
4871s	uses that mana cost
4874s	what the skill is what tags it has
4876s	things like that um
4878s	it's it's more about getting details
4880s	like that across you instead of
4882s	um
4884s	that that that damage per second number
4886s	in these tooltips is often horribly
4888s	wrong so i would i wouldn't pay much
4890s	attention to that because it also like
4892s	they
4893s	um
4894s	the tags don't update
4896s	uh so many things don't update with
4898s	these they're i'm surprised this one's
4899s	even getting the damage per second as
4901s	much as it is
4902s	but most of the time these are just like
4906s	so little information can actually be
4909s	used so
4911s	not a bug just not something that we've
4913s	implemented
4915s	interacting in a way
4919s	nets yeah there you go it's a great
4920s	example of the
4922s	weapon that we've intentionally missed
4923s	out on uh for multiplayer
4926s	uh do you think there's a design so i'm
4928s	just gonna
4943s	i'm kind of an idiot sometimes that's
4945s	okay
4948s	for multiplayer do you think there's a
4949s	design space for skills that are mainly
4952s	or at least somewhat focused on
4954s	multiplayer absolutely for example
4955s	sentinel having taunt skill
4962s	uh dps healers set up featured in a lot
4964s	of mmos but perhaps a
4966s	light version of that i think there's a
4968s	really good example of skills that we've
4970s	intentionally oh actually the only skill
4972s	that doesn't have a skill tree
4974s	um
4976s	in the entire game on paladin
4979s	funny enough um
4982s	that's done very intentionally not to
4985s	have a skill tree yet because it would
4987s	have such a huge impact on multiplayer
4989s	um that we wanted to wait till we had
4991s	multiplayer to build skill tree for it
4993s	um so yes there's there's definitely our
4995s	skills that have significantly heavier
4997s	focus or or
4999s	have different
5000s	impact and play style in multiplayer
5002s	than single player
5004s	and we have been building them with that
5006s	in mind
5024s	next question any news on warlock
5025s	falconry master
5027s	no news as of yet i apologize
5035s	still stuff we're developing
5037s	um
5038s	not coming in 0.9
5048s	i i uh what else can say that there's
5051s	there's no none of those three are
5053s	playable in internal builds either so
5055s	they're not uh
5057s	it's not like we're
5058s	holding on to them or testing them or
5059s	anything like that they're
5061s	completely unimplemented for all
5064s	versions of the game internal and
5066s	external
5072s	oh that's something i've said before
5078s	uh
5080s	next question i'm really wondering how
5082s	the
5083s	how the arrows are going to feel in
5085s	combat
5088s	the arrows
5089s	okay poison attacks and cold freeze
5090s	attacks as well as death animations to
5093s	those
5094s	could you give some examples
5108s	i think arrows might be
5110s	a typo is this
5116s	um
5121s	good they're gonna feel good
5122s	i don't know how to describe it
5125s	um
5128s	i've i've been playing
5130s	almost exclusively cinder strike bow
5132s	build
5133s	on um
5136s	cinder strike bow build on our
5137s	multiplayer tests for the last few
5140s	months
5142s	having a ton of fun with it feels great
5147s	it feels exactly the same as single
5148s	player
5150s	um
5155s	poison attacks cold breeze attacks as
5156s	well as death animations for those yeah
5159s	uh
5160s	i'm sorry i'm a little unclear what the
5161s	question is um we've got there's a bunch
5164s	of examples on
5166s	um
5167s	like
5168s	death
5169s	animations and death visuals that we've
5172s	shared a couple weeks
5173s	last couple weeks for um spoilers
5176s	there's um aaron's aaron's channel
5178s	action rpg youtube channel has a lot of
5182s	uh recaps of previous dev streams where
5184s	you can see examples of some of those
5186s	clips
5187s	and things like it that
5191s	usually we show fire because it's the
5193s	flashiest
5195s	um
5198s	i think i think cole's been used in one
5200s	of them
5205s	i'm sure there's also some examples in
5207s	the dev blog that just went up today
5208s	and i i'm sure there'll be more examples
5210s	that will come as we get closer to
5211s	patches
5214s	we get the actual patch preview thread
5216s	um i know there's a lot in this uh dev
5218s	blog and but it's not actually a patch
5220s	preview thread yet um
5224s	so lots more
5231s	but i'm just like flicking back and
5233s	forth and the doors just opening for the
5234s	next one open for the next one
5237s	i'll take it
5239s	yeah look at that track record
5241s	so i'm talking about
5243s	20 no problem
5246s	no problem
5257s	are you aware that some builds are
5261s	environmentally challenged by objects
5263s	blocking your skills for example uh
5265s	gates beacon and echoes that are pretty
5267s	annoying on my hammerton yeah so we have
5270s	i don't know if this is in the
5272s	live version right now i don't think it
5274s	is
5276s	um
5277s	i could be wrong i don't know we we have
5280s	recently created a system
5282s	uh to have
5284s	um projectiles can have two different
5287s	colliders
5288s	one for
5290s	uh the purposes of inanimate collision
5292s	detection and one for the purposes of
5296s	enemy hit detection
5298s	so previously we were under this this um
5301s	push and pull between like throw a
5302s	hammer out and the collider for that
5305s	hammer that says like if this ball like
5308s	it's not actually like a hammer-shaped
5309s	object that's flying to the air it's
5311s	actually a ball
5312s	um
5313s	and it's like if this ball intersects
5315s	with this enemies
5317s	ball it's actually a capsule um
5320s	so it's not it's not like there's a
5321s	collider for like the the shoulder and
5323s	the arm and the leg and the head and the
5324s	choices one capsule for the whole object
5326s	um
5328s	and
5330s	the
5330s	[Music]
5332s	if they collide then do stuff and so we
5335s	have um
5337s	now now the hammer has two colliders one
5340s	that's much bigger
5342s	um
5343s	and one that is
5344s	uh much smaller and so the smaller one
5347s	is for inanimate objects collision
5349s	detection like walls
5351s	where usually because the object is so
5353s	big
5355s	it doesn't matter if the detection for
5357s	that is significantly smaller than it
5358s	would be normally because it's still
5360s	going to hit that really big object
5363s	but you still need to have it
5364s	have the collider before detecting
5366s	enemies be
5367s	relatively large because the difference
5369s	in size between the
5371s	projectile on the enemy isn't actually
5373s	that big
5376s	compared to the distinction between the
5379s	enemy and
5380s	um
5382s	uh
5385s	that other thing the wall
5388s	the hammer in the wall
5398s	[Music]
5403s	take it
5412s	oh that's a cool ring
5415s	hey let's let's craft on that ring
5419s	let's craft
5424s	oh gosh
5431s	our
5433s	sub
5435s	charity logo is uh
5437s	sized a little differently
5442s	[Music]
5449s	resize that real quick
5454s	it's a little better
5456s	[Laughter]
5459s	and uh yeah let's grab this so we're
5461s	gonna try and pull attunement off this
5464s	uh
5467s	i'm gonna try and seal it um
5473s	i'm gonna re-roll it see what happens
5474s	void damage
5478s	throwing attack speed
5480s	i mean this does technically we don't
5482s	throw yeah
5485s	not terrible
5490s	let's try and re-roll dodge
5493s	necro resistance that's fine let's try
5494s	and seal that okay sweet
5497s	uh and then let's try and glyph
5500s	ah
5502s	well let me do this after the fact no i
5505s	should do that first that's too bad
5507s	oh well
5509s	it's still a decent weapon or two decent
5511s	ring
5514s	a couple unlucky rolls took us down
5516s	let's say it will be
5521s	actually really nice ring
5524s	this one's better though
5527s	definitely better
5532s	uh all right what are we doing here we
5534s	do gloves
5536s	we're gonna make some sweet atrophy
5539s	gloves
5544s	um
5545s	but which ones shall we use
5548s	we don't really want intelligence
5552s	let's just try and build these up
5555s	let's discover some ailments see what we
5557s	get
5558s	minion health no thank you
5562s	any damage no thank you health no thank
5565s	you
5566s	melee attack speed
5571s	we got kind of wrecked there
5575s	let's see if we can reroll this into
5576s	something good intelligence oh come on
5579s	what is going on casped
5584s	why do you hate me so that's pretty good
5600s	there's a t21 set of gloves right there
5601s	just by accident
5603s	that's pretty that's pretty sweet uh
5605s	cast speed sucks so let's let's go
5607s	anything but cast speed
5609s	yeah
5625s	[Music]
5626s	uh in the future will you guys release
5628s	league seasons that will later merge
5630s	into standard
5632s	uh type of thing or what's your version
5635s	there yeah i mean that's uh
5637s	that's pretty much
5638s	that's pretty much it you got it
5640s	planned for the most part um
5642s	we do
5646s	the details on exactly how that's going
5647s	to go is still a little up in the air
5649s	still for discussion all sorts of stuff
5650s	but for the most part that's
5653s	basically what it's going to be
5659s	what are healthy numbers freaking like
5660s	this for example the o3 has billions and
5662s	trillions do you understand what those
5664s	numbers mean yeah humans don't know
5666s	please tell me last epoch it's not
5668s	becoming this far feature too i think
5670s	the goal is to keep the numbers um low
5673s	enough that like most people can
5675s	comprehend what they mean
5676s	um
5677s	and also so you can read them quickly so
5679s	like you can just at a glance be like oh
5681s	that's this number um when you start
5683s	getting too many commas and too many
5685s	zeros the numbers start to become
5687s	you know like what is that what is that
5689s	adding m's and b's and t's
5691s	onto there is not awesome
5694s	so
5694s	uh yeah that's that is the goal i mean
5697s	we intentionally keep
5700s	a lot of stats we intentionally keep low
5701s	like even just like these numbers here
5703s	vitality strength like those numbers are
5705s	not super duper crazy high oh hot time
5707s	reasonable numbers like mana
5709s	regeneration up above 20 is unbelievably
5711s	high you know um so like we try and keep
5714s	as many numbers as we can in a
5715s	reasonable spot as possible some people
5717s	are really good at cranking those damage
5719s	numbers up to weirdly hide things and
5722s	you know
5723s	good on you for finding those loopholes
5728s	it's blocking
5731s	there's a huge oh i know what it is the
5734s	it's the the help window is blocking
5736s	there
5737s	interesting
5738s	but you can't click through yeah
5740s	okay
5741s	frailty
5742s	not ideal but you know not terrible so
5745s	we'll take it
5748s	all righty then let's go back and do
5751s	some more
5758s	um
5761s	did judd answer the same question well
5763s	yeah like right after that cool
5765s	cool cool
5768s	uh reading the dev updates seeing
5769s	support for hit base hammer throw got me
5772s	excited so wait
5776s	uh any funny bug stories that you can
5778s	share ah
5779s	[Music]
5780s	i mean there's always there's always
5782s	funny ones when it comes to skills all
5783s	right mike time to get the whole ass out
5786s	i don't know it's probably still
5787s	happening that it's uh
5789s	when you
5791s	cast for example a good example i can
5793s	cast on this ability i don't think but
5795s	uh fireball is a really good example of
5797s	this building when you have the triple
5798s	shot fireball where it fires three
5799s	fireballs or five fireballs and you aim
5802s	really close to your feet but still
5804s	technically forward the first one
5807s	can shoot
5810s	backwards and all the other ones will
5812s	shoot forwards
5815s	because the
5816s	the other ones are taking your
5818s	character's forward position to define
5821s	what direction to shoot in
5823s	but the first one is actually drawing a
5825s	line from your character to where you
5826s	clicked
5827s	um and it's drawing it's it's taking the
5830s	start point
5832s	actually holy aura
5834s	is showing this really nicely where you
5835s	can see
5836s	the
5838s	um
5840s	the the size of the character
5843s	is bigger than a point
5845s	so it would take the to find the
5847s	direction that you're trying to click
5848s	into to actually send this in it's
5850s	taking like the outer ring of forward
5854s	so
5855s	uh there's there's a ring here and
5857s	forward is
5859s	let's draw on the screen
5862s	so there's a ring around your character
5864s	that is the like
5866s	this is where i'm standing ring it's the
5867s	like if part of this is touching an area
5870s	in fact
5871s	like that's why you get hit sometimes
5872s	it's it's not that big it's it's more
5874s	like this
5876s	um
5877s	but then if you click
5881s	like right here
5885s	um it's still the distance from the
5888s	center point to there is still causing
5891s	this to be forward
5893s	um
5894s	but the
5896s	ability itself is checking from
5902s	uh is checking from this this green
5904s	point here
5906s	checks on the outside of the ring and
5908s	therefore draws a line backwards and
5910s	fires it backwards
5912s	so that was a funny bug
5914s	that we had
5918s	i enjoyed that one anyways
5924s	also
5926s	i caught up on chat ha ha
5929s	there was there's a couple things
5931s	uh
5932s	there's a couple things back
5940s	something's going on i don't think i
5941s	heard this
5943s	lone star mcfluffin i apologize an hour
5946s	ago i missed this
5948s	my heart breaks another 16 month resub
5951s	thank you very much glad to have you
5952s	with us and i apologize for missing it
5960s	love having you here
5962s	glad you're sticking around having fun i
5965s	hope
5967s	um
5969s	16 months is crazy that we've been doing
5971s	this that long
5972s	nutty
5974s	i love it
5975s	stand down or die
5976s	uh
5983s	earlier that like
5985s	i couldn't uh
5987s	lizard you had a question about armor
5988s	shred stacks
5990s	um only stacking to 10
5993s	and i said i didn't think that was the
5994s	case
5995s	did you find evidence either way by any
5997s	chance
5999s	and if you did could you let me know
6000s	what you found
6004s	i have a little
6005s	little uh twitchy twitch party there
6013s	uh any plans for an option to have items
6016s	on the ground appear larger sometimes
6017s	need to click a couple times to grab
6020s	a room um so it's
6023s	it's something that we've talked about
6024s	and i think
6026s	uh like general ui scaling is a really
6029s	important thing that we need to start
6031s	incorporating
6032s	um
6035s	but but having um individual like like a
6039s	size
6040s	option in the filter for like show affix
6043s	shards at twice the size or whatever
6045s	something like that that's not something
6047s	i'm really interested in um partially
6049s	because the affix shards being or the
6052s	the item ground tooltip labels being a
6056s	singular size is really important for
6058s	having them
6059s	um
6060s	visually blend in with the background
6062s	enough that if you're not focusing on
6064s	them and you're focusing on the combat
6066s	you can see past them even when there's
6067s	a lot on the screen
6070s	and having them be in various sizes
6072s	causes problems with that
6074s	so that's why we try and keep them
6075s	consistent
6076s	when possible
6090s	do i say six why is it sixteen
6096s	thousand my coupon has been here for 16
6097s	months haha probably even longer than
6099s	that really before we started doing subs
6104s	i'm just terrible in this
6112s	yeah i think having just ui scaling in
6113s	general especially for people who play
6115s	um there's a few people i know that i've
6117s	talked to that play like on their couch
6118s	with the controller and like it's big tv
6121s	and the resolution's really high this is
6122s	really nice tv um
6124s	and they're just like
6126s	what does that say
6127s	[Music]
6129s	um so just having some ui scaling
6130s	options i think would be good in general
6135s	and possibly having just something as
6137s	simple as like
6138s	item all item ground label tooltips show
6141s	up
6142s	not too item ground labels are larger
6144s	like
6146s	scaling all of them five percent ten
6148s	percent
6149s	would be um
6151s	i think i think possible
6154s	stand down or die
6160s	besides the greater disabilities too
6161s	yeah there's um accessibility options or
6163s	concerns there as well uh getting it so
6166s	more people who have
6168s	issues with with their eyesight um and
6170s	seeing small text and reading that it's
6172s	uh
6173s	definitely an upside to having those as
6175s	well
6176s	there's a lot of those that we we we're
6178s	sort of like gotta get this in there's
6180s	an accessibility option we gotta get
6181s	that in there's a lot of things that fit
6183s	in that like
6186s	the number of the number of features we
6188s	have listed out that we're like someday
6190s	we're going to add this it's going to be
6191s	amazing
6193s	it's just it's just gigantic
6197s	the wish list that you think like oh
6198s	there's not that many things right and
6200s	it's just it just grows and grows and
6202s	grows
6207s	which is wonderful there's i don't think
6209s	we'll ever run out of stuff that we're
6211s	really interested and excited about
6212s	adding which is awesome
6223s	and it might have something to do with
6224s	being able to get excited about adding
6226s	silly little things like ui scaling
6231s	but it's still exciting so
6236s	i also realized i didn't tag anyone with
6238s	my previous question well
6240s	here's your chance are fully kitted
6243s	foes similar to a player with a regular
6245s	build on the table as encounters bosses
6247s	yes in fact we actually started doing
6250s	this
6251s	uh to some degree like a little early
6253s	intro version of this um
6256s	in the limited arena boss champions
6259s	unlimited arena run champions
6261s	um
6264s	you know what i also haven't done i
6265s	haven't it's no weeks i haven't brought
6268s	any leaks to the party yet
6270s	my goodness
6271s	so we'll apologize for the leak here in
6273s	a second we're going to finish answering
6274s	this question so the
6276s	um
6280s	yeah basically you ca
6284s	limited arena runs divine era
6287s	yeah up here up here in champions gate
6289s	where we were before doing the arena um
6291s	there's options for
6293s	uh there's four tiers of limited arena
6295s	runs that are i think
6298s	30
6299s	waves 50 waves somewhere in that range
6301s	and at the end of it the final wave is a
6304s	boss fight um and it's a static boss
6306s	fight that has certain abilities there's
6308s	three different ones there's a
6310s	rogue
6311s	a
6313s	primalist and a sentinel uh different
6315s	versions of them
6316s	i need different cool little mechanics
6318s	um
6319s	fun
6320s	i'm really uh i think this was our
6324s	uh
6325s	lead vfx person and one of the encounter
6327s	designers that came up with this i think
6328s	the suitcase with it if it's not i'm
6330s	sorry whoever came with it it's a great
6331s	idea i love it the um the rogue has a
6334s	decoy ability which like decoy taunts
6337s	things but how can you taunt a player
6339s	um
6341s	and if you kill the decoy before it
6343s	explodes itself it drops a bunch of
6345s	crafting materials so it like it
6347s	incentivizes you to attack the decoy so
6350s	it taunts the player
6352s	sometimes uh which i just love that
6354s	interaction it's one of my favorite boss
6356s	mechanic interactions in the game right
6358s	now
6358s	uh possibly any game i just that one's
6360s	so great i love it anyways um
6363s	yes so i and and we've we've joked about
6365s	having um
6367s	like like characters that we as as
6370s	designers have created for ourselves as
6373s	bosses in your limited arena runs or we
6375s	joked about i think joke we actually
6377s	consider doing this um
6379s	of having like people who win
6381s	maybe
6382s	uh like like whoever won last season's
6384s	arena
6386s	champion becomes the like in game arena
6389s	champion that you have to beat at the
6391s	end of some event or something like that
6392s	like for next season um like there's all
6395s	sorts of things we talk about with with
6397s	this and i think there's a lot of
6398s	opportunity there for bringing in
6399s	characters
6403s	obviously we'd have to
6405s	curate that experience a little bit so
6408s	if there was a build that did win the
6410s	arena that was kind of degenerate in
6413s	some way maybe we go second place maybe
6415s	we modify that build maybe we change it
6417s	for npc like there's all sorts of stuff
6419s	we could do there but um
6421s	it's all very hypothetical at this point
6424s	anyways i have here
6426s	uh an option for you
6430s	fighting lizard every cycle
6432s	maybe we'd be like yeah
6435s	how many how often you could win it or
6436s	something i don't know
6438s	maybe there's a bunch of them
6440s	it can be fun
6441s	anyways
6442s	uh here's a little teaser for you of new
6446s	vfx and sound especially so i'll show
6448s	that before this um
6451s	for static
6453s	there's like this just gaining charges
6455s	it gets fully charged and it's being uh
6458s	sparked being used as well i think it's
6460s	all in this club
6462s	now let's really quickly
6466s	remove the game
6473s	[Music]
6486s	[Music]
6496s	that's it
6504s	uh yeah so that's uh that's new static
6509s	which looks pretty cool
6513s	we're so close can we do we can we can
6515s	get the boss down before the end of this
6516s	i think
6517s	that's my goal
6519s	it's my ball my goal
6521s	uh new question new first time first
6523s	question don't forget to ping me uh with
6525s	the questions does last epoch have
6527s	multiplayer or a stash shared by tunes
6530s	on the same ssf account in ssf yet so
6533s	currently uh we there is no online
6535s	multiplayer functionality for
6537s	uh any like just if you buy it on steam
6540s	go play you will not have multiplayer uh
6542s	we are in the process of expanding our
6544s	community tester program for multiplayer
6546s	purposes uh there's an update for that
6548s	that just went out earlier today a few
6550s	hours ago um
6553s	if you want to apply for that you still
6554s	can
6554s	uh
6556s	the
6556s	[Music]
6558s	so currently i guess every character is
6560s	ssf effectively because it's all offline
6562s	um or it's sf
6565s	not
6566s	ssf anyways uh
6569s	we do also have solo
6572s	s that's we have ssf and sf i guess
6574s	right now definitely uh and ssf has
6577s	individual stashes per character and sf
6578s	has a shared stack also hardcore mode
6582s	versions of each of those
6586s	oh an idol
6589s	hmm
6609s	blizzard i have a feeling you're not
6610s	watching anymore but i want to know if
6612s	that or anyone can anyone find out if
6615s	the armor shred was included in the
6617s	resistance shred
6618s	reduction to captain
6622s	stand down or die i don't think it is i
6624s	think resistances and armor are
6625s	different things
6629s	they're usually treated differently
6635s	[Music]
6652s	i'm thanks really surprised you guys
6653s	didn't have a bunch of questions for the
6655s	update that we're going to stump me
6660s	it isn't resistance ready okay cool
6663s	i'm sorry
6665s	um well lizard if you're still here
6668s	that is my response to the very first
6669s	question of the stream i think
6670s	uh
6671s	it's not
6681s	all right
6684s	oh big question there look at loving the
6686s	look of that one second
6689s	we're gonna
6690s	get into the next echo and i'll read it
6692s	then
6696s	i'm yeah we're ready to go
6698s	go for that boss let's go
6702s	my mic is a little quiet relative to the
6704s	game
6705s	thank you for letting me know i'm
6707s	i'm trying to
6709s	find that balance
6711s	um
6713s	down in uh
6715s	obs as well
6717s	uh there's a question because bows are
6719s	currently restricted to rogues and bow
6721s	quiver mo nodes exist in monoliths is it
6724s	easier to farm for bow rogue equipment
6726s	when playing another character than it
6728s	is to farm class specific gear for their
6730s	glasses what are your thoughts on this
6731s	do you think it's good to have ways to
6733s	farm useless gear for your current class
6736s	will there be more ways to target farm
6738s	off class gear in the future um okay so
6740s	i think there's a few things here one
6742s	the um
6744s	like there's there's lots of weapons
6746s	that are useless lots of weapon types
6749s	and nodes they'll show up in the model
6750s	that are used for the character you're
6751s	currently playing i don't think that's
6752s	unique to bose really i think the thing
6756s	and the way you said it is true the only
6757s	thing that's unique about it really is
6758s	that
6760s	unless you're playing a bow rogue all of
6762s	those nodes are useless so the rate is a
6764s	little bit higher you're right
6767s	um
6768s	i don't think it's problematic um and i
6771s	think it's more indicative of a
6772s	potential
6774s	plan to have that
6777s	bose not be completely exclusive on on
6780s	rose and and it's hard to say if or when
6782s	that'll ever happen but um
6786s	i mean i'm gonna keep pushing for
6789s	bo abilities on other characters for
6790s	sure
6791s	like
6793s	um
6795s	or at least some way to have like wolf
6797s	and bow ability combos like like that
6799s	archetype's missing that that hunter
6801s	archetype is missing still um
6806s	i i think we'll we'll we'll we'll see
6807s	that archetype happen in one way or
6809s	another and one of the ways that could
6811s	happen
6811s	uh
6813s	is is um
6815s	adding bow abilities to prime list
6819s	that's one way there's other ways to
6821s	um
6822s	as far as being able to target farm uh
6825s	gear for other classes i think it's
6826s	really important that that can happen
6829s	um
6830s	whereby you are finding gear for other
6831s	classes we do we do try to give you more
6835s	opportunities to find gear for yourself
6837s	um but i think it's important that you
6839s	do find gear for other classes at least
6841s	sometimes
6843s	um and that might seem
6845s	weird to say but apart from ssf
6848s	characters it really does um
6852s	it really does incentivize
6854s	like you find a piece of gear that's
6855s	like
6856s	unbelievably great for another class
6858s	another build you're not playing and it
6860s	says hey maybe make another build maybe
6862s	try another character and try something
6863s	new like play around with this new item
6865s	you found build build around me um and i
6867s	think that that's a really cool thing to
6869s	happen where you like
6870s	um you find some amazing item and you're
6872s	like oh i can make this build i'm gonna
6874s	go try that and you get something
6876s	something new going and i think that's
6878s	really fun that's something that excites
6879s	me in games like this i know it's not
6881s	for everyone but i don't think that the
6883s	rate that we're pushing off class gear
6886s	is to a point where it's going to become
6889s	um like mandatory to make these other
6892s	builds
6893s	um for like
6895s	your time investment ratio finding stuff
6897s	so it's it's
6899s	what ends up happening for the most part
6900s	is
6901s	it's this like
6903s	hey you found something awesome you
6904s	could do something really cool with it
6905s	do you wanna no okay fine
6909s	or hey you found something really cool
6911s	that you could do with this do you wanna
6912s	yeah awesome you have fun
6914s	and those are the two
6916s	like extreme cases i guess
6921s	um and then if you really wanted to
6923s	focus on finding gear for a specific
6925s	other class
6926s	you can
6928s	do that easier on a for a marksman i
6930s	think
6931s	um but at the same time because there's
6933s	overlap in say
6935s	uh a prime list and a
6938s	sentinel you can be finding gear for
6939s	your current character
6941s	and that other character at the same
6942s	time as well so i think the overlap with
6945s	your own stuff bounces it out enough
6947s	that it's
6954s	oh god
6978s	all right
6980s	oh cleaned oakley
6983s	uh is there a way to delete bot stash
6985s	tabs no i'm about eight tabs from buying
6988s	them with in-game gold so we started
6990s	with no tabs i mean okay yes you can you
6992s	can delete the entire stash
6996s	uh like your entire stash you just
6998s	delete the whole thing and that will
6999s	reset back to default
7012s	like my mic's still quiet a little bit
7014s	in game
7026s	three different things that hopefully
7027s	will bring it to the point that's good
7029s	are you gonna improve enemy vfx and
7032s	sound of attacks yes
7033s	uh how long so multiplayer comes out i'm
7035s	super excited to play with friends uh we
7037s	don't have a set time um it's the
7040s	classic when it's ready answer uh
7043s	there's as soon as we do have more
7044s	information about when it is ready
7046s	they'll be displayed in our devlog
7048s	section of our forum so keep an eye
7049s	there
7050s	um we just released an update today
7053s	um
7054s	we are in the process of expanding our
7056s	community testing program for uh
7058s	multiplayer testing which is the big
7060s	thing we're doing right now and there
7062s	uh there's still certain that's a nice
7063s	one there's still certain elements of
7066s	multiple that just don't work so we
7067s	can't release it yet
7069s	but full multiplayer release will be our
7071s	next major patch 0.9
7079s	are you happy with the current state of
7081s	gold and its sinks
7083s	uh any hint about multiplayer related
7085s	use i mean so uh
7088s	am am i happy yes do you think it could
7089s	be better absolutely um
7092s	i think there's
7094s	there's probably always room for
7095s	improvement but
7097s	the i think we need i think we need more
7099s	sinks i think we need more interesting
7101s	sinks i really am happy with um
7105s	the vault of uncertain fate and what
7106s	that did for gold things i think that's
7108s	fantastic
7110s	i'd really love to see some
7112s	um sort of like
7114s	baseline crafting options as a gold sink
7118s	um maybe something like a
7121s	like infinite use
7123s	in town simple shattering
7126s	stone or something like that like uh
7129s	like shedding something costs 100 gold
7131s	to use each time but it only ever pulls
7134s	at most
7135s	one shard or two shards or something
7137s	like that i don't know
7141s	uh that's a nice uh relic right there
7147s	it's a nice relic so something like that
7149s	i'd like to see a little bit more gold
7150s	things go in the game and varied uses
7152s	for them
7154s	um
7156s	i think i'd like to see gold sinks that
7158s	work with other end game mechanics um
7160s	that aren't in the game yet
7163s	but will be
7170s	um and i'm sorry i can't answer the
7172s	multiplayer side of that question
7179s	another first time chat question don't
7180s	forget to put that last epoch game in
7182s	the question so i see it easier but i
7184s	saw this one so it's okay uh is there
7186s	any plans to add something like hideout
7188s	and poe like player base or house at the
7190s	moment we don't have any plans for that
7192s	um part of the reason for this is we'd
7194s	like to to encourage the game to feel
7197s	alive
7199s	one of the ways that that can be done is
7201s	by having players congregate in towns
7204s	and as soon as you add in
7206s	like a player housing system where
7207s	people can
7211s	uh can like
7213s	go and and just not be in town um it
7216s	does take away from the number of people
7218s	that you see in town
7219s	the world starts kind of empty of its
7222s	inhabitants and you know all sorts of
7225s	so i i i'd really like to
7229s	if we had a good reason for it uh other
7231s	than just like okay it's something neat
7234s	that i can
7235s	i can decorate something cool like that
7236s	which is valuable i don't want to take
7238s	away from that as like a useful thing to
7240s	have
7240s	um
7242s	but if we had something else to go on
7243s	top of that i think it would be much
7245s	more likely to be
7247s	uh move up the priority list
7250s	on tasks
7252s	it's also just it's a lot of work and we
7253s	can put that time and and money and
7255s	energy and effort into um
7258s	like developing more enemies and
7260s	developing more
7261s	uh items and skills and
7264s	uh enemies and all sorts of cool stuff
7267s	core stuff that's part of the actual
7268s	gameplay experience itself um so i i
7271s	wouldn't be surprised to see something
7272s	like that down the road as like uh
7275s	i don't know a couple years from now or
7277s	um
7278s	like
7280s	might be something we add in i i don't
7281s	know
7282s	i i hope that we would have some sort of
7284s	mechanical thing to go with it as well
7289s	it's
7290s	boss fight time i know i'm over time but
7294s	we're finishing strong we're gonna it's
7296s	gonna happen and one way that i do have
7298s	one more tease for you and i love it
7301s	i'm sorry i'm waiting so long for it but
7304s	i forgot about it until i just looked
7305s	over at my screen saw it
7337s	[Music]
7343s	yes
7354s	they just like stand in one of the
7356s	trails probably standing on the trails
7357s	is totally fine aren't i
7359s	yeah what am i doing running around like
7361s	an idiot
7364s	okay
7365s	uh blessings here we go helmet shard
7367s	drop rate uh suffix chart drop rate
7370s	skill shot drop right yeah skill shards
7373s	let's do it
7374s	bleed shred melee gas burns yeah that's
7377s	a cool set only hit that's all right
7379s	either way victory is ours
7382s	um
7383s	oh a couple questions right at the end
7386s	can you talk a bit more about town
7387s	systems i don't really have anything to
7388s	say that they're right like they're
7390s	towns
7391s	uh is the interviews this is written on
7393s	january stansberry suggests that gold
7395s	won't be the main currency to trade with
7396s	it still stands for hg um
7399s	i i
7400s	there's
7402s	i don't have anything i can say about it
7403s	because i'm sorry there's uh
7407s	we're still
7409s	not ready to talk in detail about trade
7412s	um
7416s	yeah i'd love i'd love to give you more
7418s	info when we've got something i think
7420s	we'll probably have like a big a dead
7422s	block that'll just lay everything out
7423s	with trade i know it's like a big topic
7424s	of question for everyone everyone's
7425s	really interested to see what happens i
7427s	really want to get more
7429s	um
7429s	[Music]
7431s	like i said
7432s	earlier in the stream you may miss it
7434s	but i said really quickly there's we
7436s	just had this week our very first item
7440s	that was that went through
7442s	the servers and came to a person like it
7445s	left someone and came back to them for
7446s	the very first time
7448s	uh
7449s	it was back to themselves so they just
7451s	went out and came back to themselves but
7452s	still like that's like the the essence
7453s	of what needs to happen to make trade
7455s	work and like we've just had our very
7457s	first time of that happening so it's
7459s	it's it's still so early that we don't
7461s	have any
7462s	uh
7463s	we don't have any like testing done on
7466s	it there's no feedback even internal
7468s	feedback on it like we really need to
7470s	get more of that together before we can
7471s	talk about it in depth so i'm sorry but
7473s	we don't have any input for that yet
7476s	and last thing because this is so cool
7480s	uh here's a pretty pretty picture
7483s	oh yeah
7485s	oh yeah
7487s	love this one
7492s	and this will take us right out of the
7494s	end um so next week uh we will be i'll
7497s	be streaming earlier than usual i'll put
7499s	it in the calendar when we've got an
7500s	exact time um but if you're used to
7502s	seeing at this time it will be likely an
7504s	hour earlier i think um
7508s	but we'll see about details when we get
7510s	closer to then
7511s	um
7513s	yeah that's a that'll about do it for
7515s	today
7522s	where are we here
7524s	i hope you had fun i know i did uh if i
7527s	missed any of your questions i apologize
7529s	please head on over to our discord or
7531s	forums or reddit or other places where
7533s	helpful people hang out to answer them
7535s	for you
7536s	uh i hope to see you next week
7538s	uh and uh
7540s	hope you're having fun
7542s	about it

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