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| 1s | good afternoon everybody and welcome |
|---|---|
| 3s | back to the last epoch devstream as |
| 7s | always |
| 8s | i am your host mike |
| 11s | hello how's it going |
| 14s | we finally remembered |
| 17s | to make ourselves a pomage |
| 20s | [Music] |
| 23s | so we're playing bowman's today |
| 25s | as we've been over the last few weeks |
| 26s | i've been going through |
| 28s | just some fun builds to play and uh |
| 31s | today's bowmage |
| 33s | it's uh it's pretty bonkers you gotta |
| 35s | damage it pumps out and uh |
| 38s | i i think i've unlocked some uh some |
| 40s | some |
| 41s | worthy content i don't have any of my |
| 42s | blessings finished yet |
| 44s | so i'm comically |
| 46s | weak on the blessings front |
| 49s | so we're gonna we're gonna go and grab |
| 51s | our uh cold shred from |
| 53s | age of winter |
| 61s | and i'm tempted to try empowered |
| 63s | but the only problem is is that i still |
| 64s | have terrible resistances |
| 67s | i feel like i'm just gonna get bopped |
| 70s | but you know we'll try it why not right |
| 73s | uh if this is your first time here |
| 75s | as always |
| 76s | we are streaming for charity so it's |
| 78s | we're still on |
| 80s | on team oceans today as our last stream |
| 83s | for this charity next next week will be |
| 85s | on our new charity because it'll be a |
| 87s | new month |
| 89s | and if you have any questions for me |
| 90s | please feel free to put at last epoch |
| 93s | game in the questions so i see it in |
| 95s | chat loud and clear |
| 98s | if you want to see the build that i'm |
| 99s | playing exclamation mark build in chat |
| 101s | we'll get you that too |
| 104s | it's quite hot out there so |
| 107s | please drink lots of water |
| 111s | thank you very much |
| 115s | simonic 98 gives you two one sub two |
| 118s | scion life wheel thank you very much |
| 121s | just wanna see you love our game thank |
| 123s | you that's awesome i love them people |
| 125s | come to see the lego game |
| 127s | oh it's gonna take me a few minutes to |
| 130s | get the keys right get my fingers under |
| 132s | me |
| 133s | so to speak let's turn on a loop filter |
| 135s | here as well |
| 136s | i made one for this boom age |
| 139s | here we go |
| 141s | and uh just a quick little on the on the |
| 143s | gear we're using here this so this is uh |
| 145s | this is a build by lizard |
| 146s | um the key to this build is reign of |
| 149s | winter |
| 150s | um with the icicle just basically making |
| 152s | as many high skills as we can |
| 155s | um aeroguard's a nice piece |
| 158s | uh we're gonna try and make this into |
| 159s | legendary during the stream |
| 161s | and uh |
| 162s | morning frost gives us a bunch of damage |
| 164s | to it wrecks our cold resin fizzres |
| 166s | though so |
| 168s | we're working to get that up as best we |
| 170s | can |
| 175s | it's |
| 176s | hot here |
| 180s | it's very hot we'll uh we'll see if i |
| 182s | can survive this it looks like i might |
| 184s | not be doing quite enough damage |
| 185s | consistently |
| 196s | that'd be fine though |
| 199s | i feel like i'm a little low on the old |
| 200s | attack speed |
| 204s | may have been because i was watching |
| 205s | this |
| 206s | video at two time speed so i just think |
| 208s | it's low |
| 213s | uh also next week |
| 215s | this minor announcement you know i'll |
| 216s | say this again |
| 218s | before the end of the stream my goodness |
| 220s | uh thank you very much whoever that was |
| 222s | um i'll give that a second so don't die |
| 227s | oh that was the whole thing nice |
| 230s | thank you very much |
| 232s | uh |
| 233s | vatanas five months in a row |
| 236s | very nice very nice thank you very much |
| 238s | glad you're glad to have you here |
| 240s | hope you're enjoying yourself |
| 243s | um |
| 247s | yeah we want to get we want to get uh |
| 249s | attack speed if we can on that boat if |
| 250s | we finally exalted both attacks |
| 252s | that would be really nice |
| 258s | uh yeah let's go this way |
| 262s | yes the title is wrong i'm sorry |
| 264s | oh i forgot to change it |
| 267s | oh yeah i'm not gonna restart it now yes |
| 269s | the title is wrong i was doing |
| 269s | spellblade last week |
| 271s | uh we're doing bowmage this week |
| 276s | came so close to getting everything done |
| 278s | for this |
| 281s | got the build set up got the nightbot |
| 283s | command set up |
| 287s | just can't hit everything |
| 295s | oh yeah avalanche really messed me up |
| 297s | right now |
| 300s | so we use uh we use flurry for single |
| 303s | target with multi shot as a proc and |
| 305s | then uh |
| 306s | good just |
| 310s | i don't think it might be better right |
| 312s | now for us |
| 316s | dining here does a ton of damage though |
| 318s | because it depends upon setup |
| 328s | just love triggering skills yeah |
| 331s | there's something there's something |
| 332s | special about it isn't there |
| 346s | is that it |
| 348s | anything else |
| 352s | oh yeah sorry so uh yeah next week we've |
| 355s | got a special |
| 356s | uh social stream you may see a banner at |
| 358s | the top is the banner readable it's so |
| 360s | tiny in my like preview window that i |
| 361s | can't see it but i hope it is so i i um |
| 364s | i'm gonna have our lure master |
| 367s | um |
| 370s | on on stream with me tomorrow not |
| 373s | tomorrow next week |
| 374s | the heat's getting to be already |
| 376s | uh and so we'll have a special guest |
| 378s | next week on stream where we'll we'll be |
| 380s | fielding all the lore questions that i |
| 382s | fail to answer every stream and people |
| 383s | could ask them so if you have any lower |
| 385s | questions |
| 386s | or know anyone that's had lower |
| 388s | questions that didn't get them answered |
| 390s | uh if you can send them to me and i will |
| 391s | write them down just just to give a |
| 393s | little heads up on what style of things |
| 394s | are gonna be answered we will be taking |
| 396s | live questions as well just uh why not |
| 399s | wanted to see the see the question pool |
| 401s | a little bit so we have stuff to talk |
| 402s | about right away when we get started |
| 406s | see any cooler questions love to hear |
| 408s | them |
| 410s | i will write them down i won't answer |
| 411s | them today because i'm not great at that |
| 414s | uh we do a question here are you |
| 415s | planning on making more high level items |
| 418s | which can trigger skills and are they |
| 419s | very fun type items to build around i |
| 421s | mean yeah we're like |
| 424s | planning on building tons more items in |
| 426s | every sort of category so yes |
| 428s | um |
| 430s | and we definitely know that is a |
| 432s | a popular category for |
| 434s | things like that too so |
| 442s | i can't give you specifics on when |
| 444s | certain items will get certain trigger |
| 446s | things or anything like that but yeah |
| 449s | we definitely recognize those are |
| 450s | popular items |
| 454s | and we like to make things that you like |
| 456s | to play with so yeah |
| 463s | this is an empowered monolith and i have |
| 465s | zero blessings |
| 467s | um |
| 471s | because i thought that would be a good |
| 472s | idea |
| 478s | my gear is decent but there's no |
| 479s | legendaries and no exalteds |
| 485s | not happening |
| 487s | i was i was prepping for this and i |
| 489s | noticed i was looking at blizzard's |
| 490s | build video or build guide um which the |
| 494s | that um |
| 495s | new section of last epoch tools site for |
| 497s | build guides i think is going to be |
| 499s | really great like this needs to be some |
| 501s | more fleshed out on there but uh i think |
| 503s | once once we get online and there's um |
| 507s | we're until the next patch we'll start |
| 508s | getting some more guides and it'll be |
| 510s | really nice uh repository for sites for |
| 512s | guidance in general |
| 515s | and um |
| 516s | i noticed on there he said khan's high |
| 518s | skill cap or something like that i'm |
| 519s | like wow it rules me out doesn't it |
| 543s | resist coal damage ain't no match for me |
| 545s | no matter what |
| 552s | so most of our guild gear is focused |
| 555s | around adding dexterity |
| 557s | and |
| 558s | dexterity |
| 559s | uh there's some dexterity in there too |
| 565s | goes with morning frost |
| 567s | gives damage from dexterity |
| 579s | [Music] |
| 581s | you have no idea what the lord is in the |
| 582s | game i mean there's some there's some |
| 584s | major beats we can hit |
| 590s | we are also in the process of of |
| 593s | updating a lot of the way we present |
| 594s | lore |
| 595s | um |
| 597s | and and some of that's just as basic as |
| 599s | like new chat dialogues |
| 601s | um the new chat dialogue looks awesome |
| 605s | um |
| 606s | and like just basic stuff like like the |
| 608s | font that's used you know |
| 610s | um |
| 611s | and there's there's a lot of really |
| 613s | simple stuff that that will help a lot |
| 615s | and then on top that we're also |
| 617s | um like adding new features so we've |
| 619s | recently started adding in like dialog |
| 621s | box or dialog snippets like voice |
| 624s | snippet things you can pick up and it'll |
| 625s | like talk to you |
| 627s | um other things like that |
| 630s | oh welcome everyone from lizard stream |
| 632s | you may recognize this build i'm playing |
| 636s | thank you uh master sword 1291 15 months |
| 639s | in a row |
| 643s | yes lizard you are actually getting a |
| 646s | lower stream and yes i am a dirty thief |
| 651s | at least the exclamation mark builds uh |
| 654s | actually links directly to your build |
| 656s | guide |
| 657s | [Laughter] |
| 659s | which i skimmed |
| 660s | you know |
| 661s | probably not doing it justice |
| 663s | feel free to correct me |
| 666s | [Laughter] |
| 669s | i am doing very well |
| 671s | thank you quiet if you if you uh |
| 673s | you have like a document |
| 675s | um if you've got a lot of them you can |
| 677s | just send them to me on discord if you |
| 678s | want |
| 681s | but if you if you just got one or two |
| 683s | anyone you're welcome to just post them |
| 684s | in chat and i'll um |
| 686s | i'll just copy them into a little |
| 687s | document i've started here |
| 691s | you got like 10. all right well you'll |
| 693s | uh you'll you'll see this nicely for |
| 695s | next week |
| 699s | perfect |
| 704s | yeah and like as i said earlier we will |
| 705s | be taking live questions as well but uh |
| 708s | i just wanted to have some |
| 710s | uh |
| 712s | some prepared ones as well uh give them |
| 715s | some give him a chance we can start |
| 716s | things off and uh |
| 718s | have things right out of the gate to |
| 720s | talk about |
| 722s | oh my god it's hot |
| 724s | drink lots of water everybody |
| 728s | i don't know if it's |
| 729s | hotter than usual wherever you live but |
| 731s | it is hotter than usual here |
| 742s | and to be fair all that really means is |
| 743s | it's like |
| 745s | an average march day in where places |
| 747s | where it actually gets hot |
| 760s | we're we're on the lookout for |
| 762s | an exalted quiver |
| 765s | an exalted i should put the filter on to |
| 767s | like just really make this stand out |
| 770s | exalted quiver an exalted bow or an |
| 773s | exalted |
| 774s | pair of boots to make a legendary out of |
| 777s | while we try and power through this |
| 779s | um this model is here |
| 788s | oh that's spicy |
| 794s | i do one of my favorite parts about this |
| 796s | build is the amount of |
| 798s | movement slowing effects that get |
| 799s | applied so it applies so many movement |
| 802s | slowing effects |
| 805s | that the things kind of just uh |
| 809s | don't move very fast |
| 824s | it's quite nice |
| 828s | oh i need a fan or something just |
| 835s | [Music] |
| 837s | this is the |
| 838s | gloomhaven little |
| 840s | comic that comes in the jaws of the lion |
| 845s | great game |
| 855s | attack speeds |
| 856s | seems a little overkill i mean flurry |
| 857s | just attacks really fast anyways i |
| 859s | didn't think it would be quite this |
| 861s | powerful into empowered models without |
| 863s | like proper build setup |
| 871s | the blizzard lizard makes a good build |
| 881s | i'll use i'll i'll use deadening arrow |
| 885s | less less attack speed |
| 888s | still pretty good |
| 898s | sorry lizard i killed you |
| 904s | did any of the team get into lost ark |
| 906s | yeah a couple people um |
| 909s | dove into lost ark i didn't uh |
| 911s | i didn't take the take the dive myself |
| 914s | unfortunately |
| 916s | um |
| 919s | lots of gorgeous skills in there my |
| 922s | goodness |
| 927s | it's got it's got a few like key |
| 929s | gameplay differences i think that uh set |
| 931s | it apart but |
| 933s | definitely good um |
| 936s | good amount of similarities to us as |
| 937s | well |
| 943s | all the builds do this in regular |
| 945s | empowered unless i make them |
| 950s | truth hurts |
| 955s | you know it's early but it used to be |
| 956s | thinking about some race event for nine |
| 959s | uh and i know um |
| 961s | wow amber mages always |
| 964s | always painful um i |
| 967s | we don't have anything planned yet |
| 969s | uh for it |
| 973s | we're still in the make it work category |
| 988s | all right you can ask a very subjective |
| 990s | and |
| 991s | quantifiable question interesting |
| 993s | uh what do you guys consider a good |
| 995s | chase unique players players you differ |
| 998s | from devs expectations so curious how |
| 1000s | you bridge that gap or compromise |
| 1006s | um |
| 1009s | llama i think he meant 0.9.0 first of |
| 1011s | all um |
| 1015s | okay a good a good chase unique that's a |
| 1017s | great uh |
| 1019s | a great question and it's really hard to |
| 1021s | nail down exactly what that is and i |
| 1023s | think the um |
| 1025s | there's a lot of conflicting |
| 1028s | like a good chase unique needs to have |
| 1030s | this thing but it also said this thing |
| 1031s | it can't have both or you have to like |
| 1034s | balance in between the two there's a lot |
| 1035s | of compromises that come with it um |
| 1039s | so having something be |
| 1043s | i guess |
| 1044s | we're gonna define it right now i don't |
| 1046s | actually know i haven't thought about |
| 1048s | this in a while |
| 1051s | um good chase unique should i guess by |
| 1053s | definition be something that is not |
| 1055s | ultra easy to get |
| 1057s | so something that is that does require |
| 1061s | chasing |
| 1063s | and um something that has a reason to be |
| 1065s | chased i guess those are the two main |
| 1067s | things so |
| 1068s | um |
| 1071s | that reason to be chase i guess can be |
| 1072s | lots of different things |
| 1076s | um |
| 1078s | generally i would say it's likely a very |
| 1080s | powerful item |
| 1089s | i think that they should be rare |
| 1095s | there's lots of terms that get thrown |
| 1096s | around like build enabling |
| 1098s | um |
| 1100s | and i think in general chase unique |
| 1102s | should probably not be |
| 1105s | enabling but maybe empowering might be a |
| 1107s | better word for it |
| 1109s | um |
| 1113s | so like if |
| 1114s | like this bow that i'm using right now |
| 1117s | it's pretty easy to get this bow and it |
| 1119s | enables this build |
| 1121s | um |
| 1126s | having a like 4 lp version of it is |
| 1129s | definitely a chase thing because it's |
| 1131s | hard to get |
| 1133s | but it's not necessary to have |
| 1135s | a 4lp version of the bow to make |
| 1137s | this build work |
| 1141s | um so i think that's that's a good |
| 1143s | distinction for |
| 1145s | what |
| 1147s | it should be |
| 1152s | maybe another good example is something |
| 1153s | that will make a build significantly |
| 1155s | better |
| 1158s | um so like you can |
| 1160s | you can make a |
| 1162s | a build that maybe maybe there was it |
| 1164s | was a different rain of winter bow that |
| 1165s | did basically the same thing |
| 1167s | except it cast three icicles instead of |
| 1169s | one icicle you know |
| 1171s | and |
| 1172s | um like |
| 1173s | greater rain of winter i don't know and |
| 1175s | so you could find rain of winter pretty |
| 1176s | easily and then greater in winter would |
| 1178s | be something that's really difficult to |
| 1179s | find um |
| 1181s | and makes the build |
| 1183s | push to to new heights the build works |
| 1186s | without without it but then |
| 1188s | uh |
| 1189s | you get this chase item and it works |
| 1190s | even better i think that's the type of |
| 1192s | power |
| 1193s | chase that i'd like to see in most chase |
| 1195s | items |
| 1196s | personally |
| 1199s | um |
| 1202s | i think |
| 1204s | i'd want to put some more thought into |
| 1206s | it before uh putting like a stamp on it |
| 1209s | you know |
| 1210s | but |
| 1215s | the two key things i think is with a |
| 1217s | chase unique is that it needs to be a |
| 1218s | reason to be chased um |
| 1223s | and be chasable so like |
| 1228s | something that you want to get but can't |
| 1229s | just snag super easy but it is possible |
| 1231s | to get |
| 1232s | that makes any sense |
| 1234s | [Music] |
| 1249s | is is there a big difference in how |
| 1252s | players would define chase uniques from |
| 1253s | that |
| 1258s | i'll move on and come back to this |
| 1260s | uh do you guys intend to release any new |
| 1262s | item type like new weapon type or |
| 1264s | offhand until 1.0 uh |
| 1267s | probably not before |
| 1275s | 1.0 i don't think so i mean the |
| 1279s | pr probably not |
| 1282s | like like base item types like we we |
| 1284s | introduced bows a little while back and |
| 1285s | quivers a little while back |
| 1287s | i'm sure we'll introduce new subtypes so |
| 1289s | like um |
| 1292s | like maybe a new a new base |
| 1294s | bow that's not a |
| 1299s | i don't know |
| 1302s | we are changing a lot of implicit items |
| 1305s | um stats implicit stats on basically |
| 1308s | every melee weapon |
| 1311s | is getting their implicit items that |
| 1312s | change |
| 1313s | and for the most part it's just removing |
| 1315s | the damage type from that item |
| 1317s | um so things that were once like plus 20 |
| 1320s | melee physical damage just a plus 20 |
| 1321s | melee damage |
| 1325s | those other tweaks coming with that as |
| 1326s | well |
| 1331s | all right |
| 1333s | uh ragnar poe first time chat |
| 1335s | i've been watching stream uh streamer |
| 1337s | house play this game for two weeks now |
| 1339s | he enjoyed the last epoch the thing |
| 1340s | complaint was the end game every time |
| 1342s | you reach level 100 model this build |
| 1344s | took a lot of damage compared to the |
| 1345s | last |
| 1346s | normal monolith he stopped playing last |
| 1348s | night because of that |
| 1350s | is level 86 for example too much for |
| 1352s | level 100 content in this game it seems |
| 1354s | there's a lot of defensive stat focus on |
| 1356s | um |
| 1357s | and there was another complaint he had |
| 1359s | yeah i mean um level 86 and 1100 content |
| 1362s | that's a pretty big gap in any game |
| 1365s | right like you're |
| 1367s | like |
| 1368s | that's |
| 1369s | that's a pretty big gap |
| 1372s | um |
| 1375s | there's not a lot of like |
| 1377s | intrinsic so they're they're i don't get |
| 1380s | something like one of these clear |
| 1381s | there's not a lot of power gained in |
| 1383s | those last 14 levels |
| 1385s | however |
| 1386s | um |
| 1388s | the content is assuming that you've |
| 1390s | played enough content that you've got |
| 1393s | gear that would be associated with the |
| 1394s | character at level 100. so a lot of |
| 1396s | people be like oh my level 85 can do |
| 1398s | level 100 content um |
| 1401s | partially that's often because |
| 1403s | they've got gear from other characters |
| 1406s | that they've brought over so it's like |
| 1407s | level 100 quality gear um and that's the |
| 1410s | same sort of thing like you that happens |
| 1412s | in all sorts of games so you can |
| 1415s | um |
| 1417s | like beat diablo um |
| 1420s | chaos tristram with a paladin level 20 |
| 1422s | something you know that's already a |
| 1424s | little like 110 content um |
| 1428s | but you because you've got gear that's |
| 1430s | farmed so nicely it |
| 1432s | it works even though it's low level gear |
| 1434s | it's high quality low level gear if that |
| 1436s | makes any sense um i think it's the same |
| 1438s | sort of thing so |
| 1440s | hopping into |
| 1442s | um |
| 1443s | level 100 content severely under leveled |
| 1445s | without proper preparation |
| 1448s | yeah is is generally going to be really |
| 1450s | tough |
| 1452s | um likely i would say probably had um |
| 1457s | more more normal models that could be |
| 1458s | completed to gear up better as well |
| 1461s | i don't i don't know |
| 1464s | um |
| 1469s | it's it's strange because we do get a |
| 1471s | lot of feedback that the |
| 1473s | um |
| 1475s | that some people really want to jump |
| 1477s | into |
| 1478s | more powerful monoliths quicker |
| 1481s | and some people really want and some |
| 1483s | people really find that the jump between |
| 1484s | normal and empowered is way too hard |
| 1487s | um |
| 1489s | i find the dichotomy interesting |
| 1494s | i don't know if there's something we can |
| 1495s | do to there probably is something we can |
| 1496s | do to to make the experience better for |
| 1498s | both players |
| 1500s | and i'm not sure what that is right now |
| 1511s | should be going this way |
| 1518s | will area in monolithic campaign |
| 1520s | eventually get randomized like in people |
| 1522s | diablo |
| 1524s | oh like like the the the level layout |
| 1527s | um it's possible we might start adding |
| 1530s | randomized level layout systems to the |
| 1532s | game there aren't any in development |
| 1534s | right now specifically |
| 1541s | we've started some with the |
| 1544s | like randomizing your place of your |
| 1546s | starting placement um has helped a |
| 1547s | little bit but for a lot of very |
| 1550s | experienced players it's essentially the |
| 1552s | same thing as it was before |
| 1553s | um |
| 1558s | there's definitely room for improvement |
| 1559s | in that category i think there's also |
| 1560s | room for |
| 1561s | um |
| 1562s | and this is probably easier to implement |
| 1564s | is |
| 1565s | oh wow |
| 1566s | is having um |
| 1568s | small |
| 1569s | offshoot zones that are randomly placed |
| 1573s | and possibly randomized once you get |
| 1574s | into them |
| 1577s | um |
| 1580s | i'd say that's more likely to happen |
| 1582s | first but none of it's really in |
| 1583s | development right now so i can't really |
| 1584s | see like this is coming or anything like |
| 1586s | that |
| 1603s | not happening |
| 1613s | let's get out of here |
| 1621s | oh release game please in beta for 5000 |
| 1623s | yes |
| 1626s | take a long time to say yes 5000 times |
| 1628s | [Laughter] |
| 1630s | um |
| 1632s | i mean we'll release it when it's ready |
| 1635s | releasing it early would be extremely |
| 1638s | detrimental |
| 1643s | i like the idea of unique items that |
| 1645s | modifieds build i always think cloak of |
| 1647s | the undead came from heroes |
| 1651s | you see heroes and i'm like here's my |
| 1653s | magic i assume you mean here's the storm |
| 1657s | i don't know what item that is i'm sorry |
| 1667s | oh it's a easy hat |
| 1676s | oh yeah i'm just gonna um |
| 1679s | add a rule recolor let's make it purple |
| 1684s | it's gonna be |
| 1685s | exalted |
| 1686s | [Music] |
| 1688s | and it's gonna have an item type of a |
| 1693s | boots |
| 1696s | quiver |
| 1699s | or bow |
| 1704s | i'm just gonna let's let's just make all |
| 1706s | those purple |
| 1709s | wait |
| 1711s | they're already purple aren't they |
| 1716s | uh |
| 1720s | uh let's make all them green this sort |
| 1722s | of |
| 1727s | good job mike |
| 1730s | oh |
| 1732s | all right we'll carry just be white from |
| 1734s | multiplayer servers when 1.0 hits that's |
| 1736s | not the plan right now um if there's a |
| 1738s | problem and we have to do it it's |
| 1740s | possible but it's not the plan um |
| 1742s | we're planning on starting a new cycle |
| 1744s | at 1.0 so existing multiplayer |
| 1747s | characters from the |
| 1749s | early access will go into a standard |
| 1751s | league or standard cycle style system |
| 1753s | where they're like |
| 1755s | where they're not on the ladder um |
| 1758s | and a new a new cycle will start and |
| 1760s | then players can compete on the ladder |
| 1763s | together |
| 1764s | on even playing field |
| 1767s | so people who are like i don't want to |
| 1769s | play until it's fully released |
| 1771s | get a similar experience to people who |
| 1772s | have been playing in the early access |
| 1780s | if you do put do stuff in the early |
| 1782s | access and you don't care about the |
| 1782s | ladder at all you just keep playing your |
| 1784s | character |
| 1788s | we think it's i |
| 1790s | and all these things might change if |
| 1792s | like some something major shows up and |
| 1794s | we're like oh we didn't think of that |
| 1795s | crap we have to fix it now um |
| 1798s | but we think that what that does is it's |
| 1800s | sort of the |
| 1801s | best compromise we can for for everyone |
| 1803s | where |
| 1804s | um |
| 1805s | people who really |
| 1807s | really don't want to waste time on |
| 1808s | something but do you want to play now |
| 1809s | can still keep their characters |
| 1826s | all right |
| 1831s | punch is a very overpowered modifier and |
| 1833s | that may feel bad yeah that's that's a |
| 1834s | good point there are a lot of um |
| 1836s | modifiers in monolith that are |
| 1838s | deceptively difficult |
| 1841s | um |
| 1842s | and like initial |
| 1844s | without without checking what they are |
| 1845s | you can get into a situation that's |
| 1846s | really |
| 1848s | it feels more like a level 120 zone |
| 1850s | instead of a 100 zone |
| 1852s | very simple how to how to fix the |
| 1854s | difficulty issues |
| 1856s | uh in the jump to empowered shift the |
| 1858s | difficulty from mods to corruption yeah |
| 1859s | we've talked about this before uh new |
| 1861s | players take |
| 1862s | deadly enrage and percent damage bonds |
| 1864s | and empowered gets one shot and |
| 1865s | frustrated because they don't understand |
| 1866s | the game yeah i i |
| 1868s | um |
| 1871s | it i think it's i think it's really |
| 1873s | easy |
| 1875s | i think you're right that does save the |
| 1876s | player from themselves a lot |
| 1880s | um |
| 1884s | i don't know if that's the best way to |
| 1886s | uh handle it yet |
| 1889s | i know i know we've um we've been |
| 1891s | talking about this sort of thing |
| 1893s | we're undecided on what we're gonna do |
| 1894s | about it |
| 1897s | but that is a solution i agree |
| 1903s | and it might be the best solution who |
| 1905s | knows |
| 1928s | all right |
| 1933s | ow |
| 1935s | that's my face bud what's going on |
| 1950s | easy just i just want to stop to read |
| 1952s | chat but i'm gonna die if i do |
| 1967s | [Laughter] |
| 1973s | let's just agree with someone new i |
| 1974s | guess they should move away |
| 1978s | there we go all right |
| 1980s | let's do |
| 1987s | is you're going to is there any way to |
| 1989s | avoid getting killed before level loads |
| 1991s | in the final map of the arena i'm almost |
| 1993s | always taking damage for the screen |
| 1994s | loads um this is this is a bug in the uh |
| 1998s | not yeah not the infinite arena but the |
| 2000s | um |
| 2003s | the limited arena and the boss room |
| 2006s | um |
| 2007s | there's we do have something in place to |
| 2009s | not not think that when you first load |
| 2010s | in |
| 2011s | um and for whatever reason it's not set |
| 2013s | up in that zone properly |
| 2015s | oh it's just a bug |
| 2016s | i'm pretty sure we've got it fixed |
| 2022s | uh is the gear going to matter at |
| 2024s | release |
| 2025s | yes |
| 2030s | uh and how does lassifer plan on dealing |
| 2032s | with monetization |
| 2033s | um |
| 2034s | with the way games are going nowadays um |
| 2037s | well our our monetization plan hasn't |
| 2039s | changed in the last |
| 2040s | five years |
| 2042s | or whenever we started this thing four |
| 2043s | years |
| 2045s | um |
| 2047s | and that's to have a single sticker |
| 2049s | price for the initial purchase of the |
| 2051s | game and that will unlock all of the |
| 2053s | content for you forever |
| 2055s | um |
| 2056s | so the like |
| 2059s | any expansions to |
| 2061s | like new zones or new um |
| 2064s | new monoliths or new mechanics or things |
| 2066s | like that that'll all just be |
| 2068s | like everyone who has the game gets it |
| 2069s | gets to keep it gets up gets all the |
| 2071s | updates |
| 2073s | and then uh |
| 2075s | very strictly cosmetic only |
| 2077s | microtransactions for |
| 2079s | um |
| 2081s | cosmetics |
| 2082s | and cosmetic only stuff |
| 2084s | i don't know how many times i have to |
| 2085s | say cosmetic in that sentence just to be |
| 2086s | clear but um |
| 2088s | like we already have a rough overview of |
| 2091s | the this is actually completely changed |
| 2092s | now um but this is kind of just to to |
| 2095s | show that this is sort of the style of |
| 2096s | thing we're planning where you can |
| 2097s | change the way your gear looks |
| 2100s | um and change the way some skill effects |
| 2102s | happen and things like that and it's and |
| 2103s | there's like there's already some pets |
| 2105s | that we can |
| 2106s | um |
| 2107s | where's the pet that people have easily |
| 2110s | look at look at this guy |
| 2112s | so yeah we have and these are some pets |
| 2114s | that come with the |
| 2115s | supporter packs at the start of the game |
| 2117s | right away i i know mine looked weird |
| 2119s | that there were some that you shouldn't |
| 2121s | be able to unlock without not unlocking |
| 2123s | the other ones but that's because it was |
| 2124s | an account used for testing |
| 2127s | um |
| 2134s | but yeah it's it's um |
| 2140s | very strictly cosmetic only so like for |
| 2142s | example and i want to be clear that i i |
| 2144s | think that |
| 2145s | games that uh |
| 2148s | i'm not trying to disparage any game by |
| 2149s | saying this um but like we're not going |
| 2151s | to charge for |
| 2153s | um |
| 2154s | stash tabs for example |
| 2156s | um |
| 2157s | because that's uh i would say that's a |
| 2158s | convenience thing so it's that's not a |
| 2160s | cosmetic thing |
| 2162s | um |
| 2163s | if we charge we charge in-game gold for |
| 2165s | stash dabs and you can't buy in-game |
| 2167s | gold with real money |
| 2168s | um |
| 2171s | so you have to earn your stash dabs in |
| 2173s | the game |
| 2175s | um |
| 2177s | and i think like the obvious comparison |
| 2179s | there's path of exile um and i think the |
| 2181s | big difference there is pathfixel |
| 2182s | doesn't have a sticker price |
| 2188s | yeah we're we're at the sticker price |
| 2191s | that's |
| 2192s | lower than the average |
| 2194s | high quality game that comes out which i |
| 2197s | think we're making a high quality game |
| 2198s | it's our goal it's our plan |
| 2201s | um |
| 2215s | you did mean heroes three wow okay yeah |
| 2217s | that's |
| 2218s | it sounded familiar |
| 2220s | absolutely love heroes do you ever play |
| 2221s | the wake of the gods expansion or like |
| 2223s | the fan made expansion for it oh so good |
| 2227s | oh so good |
| 2229s | i've actually been dabbling a little bit |
| 2230s | recently and there you go |
| 2235s | i always play castle |
| 2238s | sometimes vampire sometimes complex |
| 2243s | not a huge necropolis fan |
| 2245s | i always find it awkward you you like so |
| 2247s | you start racing basic skeletons and |
| 2249s | you've got your skeletons upgraded and |
| 2250s | you like your army size doesn't quite |
| 2252s | work because you don't have room for the |
| 2253s | base skeletons to show up you gotta like |
| 2255s | just leave zombies at home and the |
| 2256s | zombies suck but they they're meat |
| 2258s | shields |
| 2260s | they collect the other king lets you |
| 2262s | raise liches instead of skeletons by |
| 2263s | default |
| 2264s | ah |
| 2265s | yeah |
| 2270s | that's nice |
| 2271s | do they do they ever do like um |
| 2274s | the upgraded liches what are they called |
| 2276s | which |
| 2277s | which lords |
| 2280s | that's the wrong word |
| 2287s | oh it is hot |
| 2289s | i am like |
| 2290s | wow |
| 2291s | i'm sweating a lot here my goodness |
| 2300s | the headset's real warm |
| 2313s | uh do you guys now have any plans for |
| 2315s | changing changes to set items no or at |
| 2318s | least uh are preparing any meaningful |
| 2320s | balance changes to them in general i |
| 2321s | mean yeah like we |
| 2323s | they're they're on the radar we want to |
| 2324s | work on |
| 2325s | them we've been busy doing other stuff |
| 2327s | haven't got to yet |
| 2329s | not happening |
| 2330s | don't have any concrete plans they can |
| 2331s | share but yes they're |
| 2334s | on the radar um they're on the list the |
| 2336s | list is long they're on it |
| 2343s | uh |
| 2344s | if a player gets a mod that increases |
| 2347s | down to 100 they rage quit uh if the |
| 2348s | model increases 20 they go that hurt |
| 2351s | um that was that reads uh reads and |
| 2353s | learns and then the same mod |
| 2355s | is deadly when you're at 500 corruption |
| 2357s | because 20 of the base type that we know |
| 2359s | would be no joke |
| 2370s | i i i don't i don't have counterpoints |
| 2372s | to debate you on this lesson i don't |
| 2373s | think you're i don't think you're wrong |
| 2383s | i think you are very right on |
| 2386s | how that would work |
| 2394s | uh has it been progress on how much you |
| 2395s | guys are going to value mtx per piece |
| 2398s | um |
| 2399s | or the armor set to buy or is it still |
| 2402s | market research or |
| 2404s | talking ask because |
| 2406s | uh vision gl attorneys gives away gives |
| 2408s | points don't know how much people can |
| 2410s | really get with 500 points so some |
| 2413s | clarification would be nice yeah |
| 2415s | the the |
| 2416s | the numbers don't really say much right |
| 2418s | now they're kind of like a it's a it's |
| 2420s | an amount |
| 2421s | it's some nebulous amount |
| 2425s | um |
| 2428s | i i wish i had a good answer for you |
| 2433s | i don't i'm sorry |
| 2436s | not |
| 2462s | uh hi there |
| 2463s | are some challenge modes already but is |
| 2466s | there any plan to implement something |
| 2467s | similar to not yet release poe hard mode |
| 2470s | very limited item jobs limited or |
| 2472s | disabled crafting etc yeah i think |
| 2474s | that's i think that's a little bit later |
| 2475s | on uh type thing |
| 2477s | uh we've definitely looked at stuff like |
| 2479s | that and |
| 2483s | when you have an extremely large |
| 2484s | community it's a lot easier to split |
| 2486s | that community and still have |
| 2488s | um like a competitive landscape in those |
| 2491s | splits |
| 2493s | so at least initially i think it's |
| 2494s | unlikely we'd have something like that |
| 2496s | um |
| 2497s | but i do think there's a lot of |
| 2499s | uh there's a lot of really interesting |
| 2500s | things that happen there uh and i do |
| 2503s | love that they did that so i think |
| 2504s | there's a good chance that half that |
| 2505s | sort of thing happens eventually |
| 2508s | that's it unlikely |
| 2510s | um in the first little bit |
| 2518s | we already toy with like masochist mode |
| 2520s | and things like that which is it's |
| 2521s | pretty it's a pretty simplistic version |
| 2524s | um |
| 2526s | which started as a joke but uh |
| 2531s | he kept trying because people do like it |
| 2540s | not happening |
| 2544s | oh a temple saying we'll go do one of |
| 2549s | those probably should have waited for my |
| 2551s | mana to reach in |
| 2556s | i'm a little shy on the mana regen here |
| 2568s | not not terrible i know lizards build |
| 2570s | headed up at 17 or 18 i think 15 or 16. |
| 2587s | uh |
| 2588s | can you currently upgrade support packs |
| 2590s | i don't think we have a support back |
| 2591s | upgrade still i don't i don't know |
| 2592s | what's the hold up there |
| 2594s | um |
| 2597s | there's some problem with it |
| 2607s | require required things to be done i |
| 2608s | know manually for a long time um |
| 2612s | and then we weren't able to do it at all |
| 2617s | the ones we could go for |
| 2622s | really just want to get that stability |
| 2623s | up |
| 2625s | so furthest away from the center is |
| 2626s | going to do that the best |
| 2630s | let's go for that experience node |
| 2635s | you're all in and have been with you |
| 2637s | guys this viewing awesome |
| 2639s | cool |
| 2645s | glad to have |
| 2646s | everybody with us |
| 2648s | has there been um |
| 2651s | i don't know if i missed it if there |
| 2652s | were people who had more questions i |
| 2653s | know i know uh quite a lot |
| 2657s | if you have more questions please feel |
| 2658s | free to send those |
| 2661s | over and i will um |
| 2662s | write them down for next week |
| 2666s | or if if anyone's watching this after |
| 2668s | the fact |
| 2670s | um |
| 2673s | and wants to submit them |
| 2675s | um you could submit them in ask the devs |
| 2678s | channel and discord |
| 2679s | um or you could just come to next stream |
| 2681s | with the questions either way it's fine |
| 2684s | if you like want a question answered but |
| 2686s | can never get to the streams on time um |
| 2689s | toss it up and ask the devs before next |
| 2691s | friday and i will uh add to the list |
| 2698s | i don't know if it's just because i'm |
| 2699s | playing your build right now lizard but |
| 2701s | i see a lot of enemies like of the |
| 2702s | lizard right now it's i find it funny |
| 2706s | it's coincidence |
| 2709s | uh will it be possible to enhance set |
| 2711s | items in the same way we can turn |
| 2712s | uniques into legendaries or is it going |
| 2713s | to be too much the big problem with that |
| 2716s | is how i don't have a good example how |
| 2717s | many set items on me right now but how |
| 2719s | long those item names are already like |
| 2722s | those those descriptions they're just a |
| 2723s | novel to read as it is and then you |
| 2725s | stick even more things on them like that |
| 2727s | they just look even longer we've |
| 2729s | prototyped uh |
| 2731s | like like rough project not actually |
| 2733s | built into the game um |
| 2735s | a few ways of |
| 2737s | enhancing the the the um |
| 2740s | the tail |
| 2741s | on um |
| 2743s | set item power |
| 2745s | and there's a few different systems |
| 2746s | we've sort of toyed with |
| 2748s | um |
| 2751s | i think it's likely we'll do something |
| 2753s | with it i don't know what that'll be yet |
| 2758s | get away from me no |
| 2763s | no |
| 2766s | [Laughter] |
| 2775s | you don't flirt anymore you go full |
| 2777s | oh |
| 2779s | you go full dent in the air all right |
| 2784s | teach me senpai |
| 2795s | i you're right it's exactly i am having |
| 2797s | mana problems |
| 2799s | you're extremely hyped for mana damage |
| 2801s | or melee damage changes on weapons |
| 2803s | however are we going to get more |
| 2804s | conversions and skills benefit from them |
| 2806s | we need more ways to add and remove tags |
| 2808s | from skills to make use of it is it on |
| 2811s | the radar |
| 2812s | give you a full void multi-strike please |
| 2815s | um i think there's given this happening |
| 2818s | there's probably going to be some more |
| 2820s | of that happening um |
| 2827s | quite i'm sorry i'm not going to read |
| 2828s | that right now uh uh but yes not the |
| 2832s | question you did in chat but the |
| 2833s | question you sent me on discord um |
| 2835s | as as far as more items that give fall |
| 2838s | conversions |
| 2840s | i can't say for sure |
| 2843s | specifically full multi-strike i can't |
| 2844s | hey |
| 2845s | well see it definitely does mean |
| 2848s | having more houses having the items |
| 2851s | you're right the premise of your |
| 2852s | question is absolutely right having more |
| 2854s | items that don't have |
| 2856s | um specific damage types on their added |
| 2859s | flat damage |
| 2861s | um means that conversions full |
| 2863s | conversions are much more effective |
| 2869s | my goodness |
| 2885s | um so it's it's definitely on the radar |
| 2908s | uh |
| 2925s | not happening |
| 2934s | oh sorry |
| 2935s | it's |
| 2936s | got a little sucked into the game there |
| 2937s | my goodness it is hot |
| 2941s | okay new question here do you feel |
| 2943s | unique items based around certain skills |
| 2946s | are too limited for the theory crafter i |
| 2948s | know something uh a cinder song can only |
| 2950s | be played on the mage with something |
| 2952s | uh while something like vulcanus which |
| 2954s | is more generalized can be theorycrafted |
| 2956s | on every class i feel this is very |
| 2958s | limited when playing long term because |
| 2959s | you learn the skills specific ones very |
| 2961s | fast while generalized ones uh keep me |
| 2963s | calculated for longer so curious if you |
| 2964s | agree there's still huge value in |
| 2965s | specific ones i think there's there's i |
| 2967s | think there's a huge value in both of |
| 2969s | them and i think having both of them is |
| 2970s | really important |
| 2971s | um |
| 2972s | specifically because you can generally |
| 2974s | do a little bit more wacky stuff on the |
| 2977s | more specific ones because the more |
| 2978s | generalized ones usually have to be like |
| 2980s | well |
| 2981s | we we can't |
| 2983s | we can't do this because it gets a |
| 2985s | little nutty on this skill |
| 2986s | um |
| 2987s | and then you have to like do something |
| 2989s | to rule out that skill or nerf the whole |
| 2991s | thing so that that one skill becomes |
| 2993s | where it's just useful and everywhere |
| 2995s | else it's kind of |
| 2996s | meh um |
| 3001s | so i i think there's there's plenty of |
| 3003s | space for both we we may have become too |
| 3005s | focused on |
| 3007s | um skill specific ones i think it's |
| 3009s | easier to do |
| 3010s | skill |
| 3011s | skill agnostic is that the term skill |
| 3013s | agnostic um still independence probably |
| 3015s | better word for it uh versions on |
| 3018s | like we do we do class specific items so |
| 3020s | we can say like a bow |
| 3022s | um and do cool stuff there because then |
| 3024s | suddenly only a rogue can use it or even |
| 3025s | just like |
| 3026s | a base type like like a specific rogue |
| 3028s | specific helmet |
| 3031s | um so you can you can make |
| 3033s | like restrictions that way |
| 3035s | uh |
| 3037s | to do nuttier things you can also do |
| 3040s | there's lots of different ways we can |
| 3041s | restrict |
| 3042s | the combinations of things that can |
| 3043s | exist |
| 3044s | and that's usually a big consideration |
| 3046s | when we're making unique items is what |
| 3047s | else could this go with that would be |
| 3049s | busted |
| 3054s | i'm like |
| 3055s | really busted is the problem when it's |
| 3057s | when it's like |
| 3060s | the only way to do something |
| 3064s | uh are you guys considering adding |
| 3065s | something to attunement every step yeah |
| 3067s | this is a question we get a fair bit and |
| 3070s | no but maybe |
| 3073s | um every other stack gives damage and |
| 3075s | defensive achievement gives i mean every |
| 3078s | stat gives damage |
| 3080s | uh while human gives a bit of mana and |
| 3082s | damage |
| 3084s | um |
| 3085s | because they'll give damage |
| 3087s | right what am i doing |
| 3089s | they'll give damage |
| 3091s | this one this one |
| 3092s | um yeah the mana it gives |
| 3094s | is its only like bass thing but they all |
| 3096s | give |
| 3097s | damage to their respective skills right |
| 3101s | like |
| 3105s | this is |
| 3106s | border tension and damage |
| 3113s | right |
| 3119s | so this one's it's a two minutes |
| 3121s | damaging utility instead of damaging |
| 3122s | defense |
| 3132s | um |
| 3135s | i don't think it turns i hear you're |
| 3136s | thinking on jordan's threshold i don't |
| 3138s | think it's on theme at all |
| 3146s | like maybe you need something different |
| 3147s | maybe man is not good enough as a stat |
| 3149s | for it but |
| 3150s | um |
| 3165s | it does also give damage just for the |
| 3166s | record |
| 3176s | okay so so listen that's a good point |
| 3178s | the damage not being the um enticing |
| 3180s | part of the stat and i think that's the |
| 3182s | problem with the system |
| 3189s | is the damage needs to be more enticing |
| 3190s | in general |
| 3193s | that comes from attributes |
| 3199s | which which is also part of the problem |
| 3201s | with um |
| 3205s | with with why gear is less |
| 3207s | um |
| 3209s | uh provides less damage than a lot of |
| 3211s | skill skill notes as well |
| 3214s | it's not just in the skill notes or |
| 3215s | power but it's also in that gears |
| 3216s | underpowered in a lot of cases and part |
| 3218s | of that comes from the |
| 3220s | the the lackluster amount of damage that |
| 3222s | comes from |
| 3224s | uh attribute sets |
| 3246s | oh hey a bow |
| 3248s | oh hey boots |
| 3252s | we can make legendaries out of those |
| 3271s | sneak peeks yeah i got one |
| 3274s | i got one ready for you |
| 3281s | if i if i complete something or die like |
| 3283s | something significant or die i'll i'll |
| 3285s | share it i'll share with you |
| 3292s | which given how the damage is creeping |
| 3294s | up on this that i'm taking |
| 3296s | i think time might be uh |
| 3299s | sooner than i'd like |
| 3301s | [Laughter] |
| 3304s | lord question heyo |
| 3306s | i will save this for |
| 3310s | coffee come on |
| 3313s | paste |
| 3316s | let me see if you asked it too |
| 3323s | multiplayer yes no it's uh we're |
| 3327s | just finished up |
| 3329s | our most recent ct test |
| 3332s | uh like |
| 3334s | an hour ago or something |
| 3337s | um |
| 3340s | and uh yeah we're still we're we're |
| 3343s | gonna be |
| 3344s | making changes making new builds |
| 3346s | advancing that so we're still in uh |
| 3349s | closed closed testing for multiplayer at |
| 3352s | the moment |
| 3363s | what's coming on really nicely |
| 3366s | the import the important stuff that we |
| 3368s | were hoping to get tested this round |
| 3371s | went really well |
| 3378s | the stuff that we were like oh i hope |
| 3379s | this works worked which is great |
| 3394s | all right |
| 3401s | uh paladin and druid's stack of tuna for |
| 3403s | the most part they get |
| 3405s | uh they both get endurance threshold |
| 3407s | themes within their passive trees so |
| 3408s | here's why i think it's not in the theme |
| 3410s | for two men |
| 3411s | yeah okay that's that is a good point |
| 3413s | for sure |
| 3415s | um i guess the way we thought of a tune |
| 3417s | is more of a |
| 3419s | like caster |
| 3421s | ability |
| 3422s | and it's it's it's less of a traditional |
| 3425s | caster and more of a |
| 3427s | like natural caster type ability which |
| 3429s | does tend to lend itself nicely to |
| 3433s | okay |
| 3434s | one lp skin that's pretty cool which |
| 3436s | does lend itself |
| 3437s | like |
| 3438s | yeah sentinel and um |
| 3441s | primeless other two primaries |
| 3459s | uh but i guess like the way i've always |
| 3461s | thought about it it's a tuna as a caster |
| 3463s | stat and endurance as a |
| 3465s | um more of a melee stat and like you're |
| 3468s | talking really broad broad archetypes |
| 3471s | um |
| 3473s | i guess that's where the difference in |
| 3474s | that i've always had in my head comes |
| 3476s | from |
| 3489s | not happening |
| 3491s | all right |
| 3501s | lower question cool |
| 3504s | paste that in |
| 3510s | oh don't die |
| 3522s | it's gonna be like try and get my killed |
| 3524s | by |
| 3525s | submitting lore questions so he copies |
| 3527s | and faces them |
| 3530s | don't dead |
| 3531s | or do that so more questions |
| 3539s | you know what i'm realizing |
| 3541s | i'm a little dehydrated |
| 3552s | whoa |
| 3555s | oh |
| 3561s | womp |
| 3572s | yeah come on we are we we've um we |
| 3575s | announced quite a while ago actually |
| 3576s | that we were pushing this patch quite a |
| 3578s | bit um |
| 3580s | initially we had planned it to be |
| 3582s | um |
| 3584s | somewhere roughly september-ish there |
| 3587s | and about because |
| 3589s | um we were trying to fit a whole bunch |
| 3591s | of multiplayer |
| 3593s | development work in |
| 3595s | um and then we |
| 3597s | realized that we were actually close |
| 3598s | enough with multiplayer that we could |
| 3600s | make the next patch the multiplayer |
| 3601s | patch um so we pushed it even further |
| 3609s | so one major misconception there is that |
| 3611s | when we say it was |
| 3612s | roughly somewhere in around |
| 3614s | september-ish and we push it past that |
| 3616s | it'll be the first thing in october |
| 3618s | that's not what we're saying at all |
| 3624s | we don't have a date for it yet |
| 3634s | uh hydration would have saved you from |
| 3635s | the heat of the flames like it probably |
| 3637s | would have |
| 3643s | oh |
| 3646s | i'm like i'm struggling |
| 3650s | oh server's still on |
| 3653s | oh gosh |
| 3654s | turn that off it didn't turn off |
| 3660s | the foot |
| 3665s | come on shut down |
| 3668s | there it goes okay |
| 3673s | oh it's probably adding like five |
| 3675s | degrees this room |
| 3688s | can you tell us about lost memories uh |
| 3690s | what can you tell us about lost memories |
| 3691s | and why do you think it's a good idea to |
| 3693s | include it in point nine well |
| 3697s | if they were completed i think it would |
| 3698s | be an amazing idea to appear in point |
| 3700s | nine because |
| 3701s | it would be an extra system for players |
| 3702s | to play with and |
| 3704s | get feedback on |
| 3707s | i can't really tell you much about them |
| 3712s | partially this is probably going to |
| 3713s | change a ton from what we've had planned |
| 3715s | for a long time before they actually get |
| 3716s | in |
| 3717s | uh it's a cool item this is really cool |
| 3719s | item |
| 3728s | it's really cool item |
| 3738s | thanks for confirming last memories of |
| 3740s | 0.9 |
| 3746s | you know sometimes sometimes things like |
| 3747s | that get posted i'm like did i just |
| 3749s | actually do that |
| 3750s | do i have to go back and and re-watch |
| 3752s | this to make sure i didn't just say that |
| 3754s | but i'm pretty sure i didn't just say |
| 3755s | that |
| 3769s | i'm definitely not using myself mutually |
| 3771s | defensive abilities anywhere near enough |
| 3785s | okay we're gonna do this boss |
| 3788s | we're gonna get a blessing |
| 3789s | then we're gonna go make a legendary |
| 3790s | item it's gonna be sweet |
| 3793s | and i'm not gonna pass up from the heat |
| 3802s | it like hits 30 and i'm just exhausted |
| 3804s | with heat |
| 3807s | since favor systems is going to be a |
| 3809s | thing what other chances the favor |
| 3811s | system is the favor of the gods |
| 3814s | depending on which god you gain favor |
| 3816s | which determines buffer reward tell me |
| 3817s | why i am correct in my predictions |
| 3823s | uh |
| 3825s | trying to find a way to weasel out of |
| 3826s | this one |
| 3828s | um |
| 3830s | from how it's worded i don't know if i |
| 3832s | can though i don't see a way out |
| 3841s | this is a smart one to go to |
| 3845s | this is a mere |
| 3852s | not stand in my way |
| 3862s | this is a mercy |
| 3867s | do not stand in my way |
| 3878s | this is a mercy oh no |
| 3882s | do not stand in my way it's like panic |
| 3887s | health potential |
| 3890s | [Laughter] |
| 3892s | oh no |
| 3893s | no |
| 3894s | it was coming and i just dashed the |
| 3896s | other way |
| 3903s | oh |
| 3906s | mike why do you suck so much at this |
| 3909s | [Music] |
| 3914s | do we do we go do we go make a legendary |
| 3916s | that maybe has cold res on it somewhere |
| 3920s | i think that's the play |
| 3925s | plus it kills you just like you have |
| 3927s | yeah yeah |
| 3934s | okay let's try let's try and get |
| 3935s | something uh like cold res we are short |
| 3938s | on void res too |
| 3940s | uh let's just stick decks there oh you |
| 3942s | should probably stick move speed on here |
| 3946s | let's switch this to something else |
| 3947s | first because we don't want it to oh two |
| 3949s | minutes useful i guess |
| 3952s | go move speed |
| 3958s | cool |
| 3964s | it's not a great exalted to make for the |
| 3966s | bow |
| 3967s | at all so we're gonna go do boots |
| 3974s | uh yeah i'm gonna come back to this |
| 3976s | because i don't think i'm uh quite tough |
| 3978s | enough because that |
| 3981s | blizzard was |
| 3984s | extreme |
| 3991s | uh what level do we need |
| 3994s | oh it's it's a super low level |
| 3996s | yeah we can probably do this one anyways |
| 3999s | is your new patch something no there's |
| 4000s | no new patch yet |
| 4002s | um |
| 4004s | just just playing around answering some |
| 4006s | questions having some fun |
| 4012s | uh does it require extra work uh to |
| 4014s | maintain multiplayer version and offline |
| 4016s | version well i mean it um so it was uh |
| 4020s | costing us more work to do that for a |
| 4021s | while um one of the big things we've |
| 4023s | done over the last couple months |
| 4026s | um is is to |
| 4028s | combine them into a single version |
| 4030s | um so we're not maintaining two versions |
| 4032s | for offline and online |
| 4034s | so you can like it's a single single |
| 4037s | client for both |
| 4039s | um |
| 4041s | previously what we were doing is we were |
| 4042s | maintaining a release build that was |
| 4044s | going out to everyone |
| 4046s | um and this is part of the reason why we |
| 4048s | pushed the release initially quite quite |
| 4049s | a while back is because we were we were |
| 4051s | making that combine happen |
| 4053s | um |
| 4056s | so up until this point we've been |
| 4057s | maintaining both versions for well over |
| 4061s | a year now um and it was slowing things |
| 4063s | down |
| 4065s | because every time we made changes in |
| 4066s | one we basically had to make changes in |
| 4067s | the other that's not really how it |
| 4069s | worked but effectively |
| 4070s | um |
| 4072s | and so |
| 4074s | now we don't do that because it's just |
| 4075s | one version |
| 4077s | and and the release builds we make will |
| 4078s | be |
| 4079s | just the normal version |
| 4082s | just |
| 4083s | the game |
| 4093s | that was like one of the exits i just |
| 4095s | not killed enough things to see it |
| 4106s | um |
| 4108s | oh i said i had something to share with |
| 4109s | you because i died okay well as soon as |
| 4110s | we run this i'll i'll share it sorry |
| 4114s | it's a full screen thing |
| 4116s | so i don't want to go in the middle of |
| 4117s | this |
| 4129s | so yeah we're not maintaining two |
| 4131s | versions anymore which is great |
| 4144s | here we go yeah 20 is fine |
| 4147s | uh in multiplayer is there any reviving |
| 4150s | system |
| 4152s | not right now also there's any |
| 4153s | punishment on death gold drops or |
| 4154s | anything no we we we're not a big fan |
| 4157s | just philosophically in general of |
| 4159s | taking away things you've already |
| 4161s | achieved on death |
| 4165s | so |
| 4166s | gold that you've already got experience |
| 4168s | that you've already got um things like |
| 4170s | that we don't we don't like removing |
| 4172s | those from you that you've already been |
| 4174s | like here's something that you've got |
| 4175s | sitting in your inventory oh you died |
| 4177s | we're gonna take it away |
| 4178s | now it's more about the death penalties |
| 4180s | we generally try and put in place are |
| 4182s | um similar like the ones like we already |
| 4184s | have so um if you die in |
| 4187s | uh like a dungeon for example you lose |
| 4190s | the key that you've already |
| 4192s | you've already used it to gain access to |
| 4194s | the dungeon so like |
| 4196s | um you're not losing anything that you |
| 4198s | had you've already spent the key |
| 4201s | um but you're losing the potential of |
| 4203s | the reward you would have got if you had |
| 4204s | succeeded |
| 4205s | um |
| 4207s | the penalty is just |
| 4208s | you didn't succeed at the thing you were |
| 4210s | trying to do |
| 4210s | [Laughter] |
| 4214s | that's the same in like the model for |
| 4215s | example so if you if you die on an echo |
| 4218s | that special that echo specific reward |
| 4221s | you don't get that that goes away |
| 4225s | and because that doesn't have a cost to |
| 4226s | enter |
| 4227s | that reward is gone and doesn't isn't uh |
| 4231s | like you don't if you try that again you |
| 4232s | don't get that reward |
| 4241s | yeah that's the sort of philosophy we're |
| 4242s | planning on sticking with going forward |
| 4245s | too |
| 4250s | and then obviously on hardcore |
| 4253s | you die you're dead |
| 4255s | bye bye |
| 4257s | see you later better luck next |
| 4272s | look time a perma-crit node on i do have |
| 4274s | always could try |
| 4276s | why am i just wrecking everything |
| 4297s | oh |
| 4310s | yes question |
| 4313s | uh one of the reasons i like |
| 4315s | multi-strike is the fact that it's uh |
| 4317s | it's range aoe scales with weapon range |
| 4319s | does the issue um have any plans to make |
| 4322s | all skill skills somewhat even if it's |
| 4324s | minuscule with weapon range maybe add an |
| 4327s | aoe ratio stat for spellcaster builds |
| 4330s | um adds an extra dimension super |
| 4332s | enjoyable for veterans that new players |
| 4334s | don't need to worry about any thoughts i |
| 4336s | do think that having |
| 4337s | um things in that category for like like |
| 4340s | here's a stat that people who |
| 4342s | like you're playing the game the first |
| 4343s | time you're getting to empowered models |
| 4344s | for the first time you're playing |
| 4345s | through those um you're not really |
| 4346s | pushing super high corruption you're not |
| 4348s | pushing super high arenas and like |
| 4351s | you're getting through the like 99 of |
| 4353s | the content or whatever like stats that |
| 4355s | most of those players don't know about |
| 4358s | um and don't need to know about but like |
| 4359s | people who are like you listeners who |
| 4361s | are |
| 4362s | playing a lot |
| 4364s | i know a lot getting like really the |
| 4365s | finer points there i think are really |
| 4367s | cool um |
| 4369s | just from a high level |
| 4371s | look at it |
| 4374s | and there's lots of really good examples |
| 4376s | of things like that in diablo 2 for |
| 4377s | example |
| 4381s | um |
| 4388s | escape is impossible |
| 4414s | escape is impossible |
| 4438s | that health potion's in there i want it |
| 4440s | it's mine by right |
| 4450s | get it |
| 4456s | oh |
| 4457s | [Music] |
| 4461s | that's pretty cool |
| 4465s | um yeah as far as the weapon range |
| 4467s | specifically sorry i just glanced over |
| 4469s | half your question there lizard as far |
| 4470s | as weapon range specifically goes |
| 4473s | uh for affecting skills i think it's i |
| 4475s | think it's good that some do and some |
| 4476s | don't um |
| 4479s | i do like the idea though of um |
| 4483s | aoe stat scaler for spell spellcaster |
| 4485s | builds i think that's a really cool idea |
| 4486s | i don't think i've heard that before |
| 4490s | i think that's neat |
| 4494s | teaser now that aaron's here uh i mean |
| 4497s | that's i |
| 4498s | i can't pretend that's why i'm gonna do |
| 4499s | it but yes i will uh |
| 4501s | i will pop up a teaser pretty soon here |
| 4514s | not terrible |
| 4520s | might be worth crafting on |
| 4523s | okay we're just gonna we're just gonna |
| 4524s | make some boots though i think |
| 4532s | yeah |
| 4534s | i know the achievement's weird that |
| 4535s | health be nice the void runs be nice |
| 4537s | moose movespeed's always good |
| 4539s | let's see what we get |
| 4545s | uh deaf teaser time yes yeah yeah yeah |
| 4548s | yeah yeah yeah yeah |
| 4552s | only vengeance and multi-strike are the |
| 4553s | only ones that do it as of right now |
| 4554s | interesting i would have thought more |
| 4556s | would do that |
| 4560s | rife doesn't do that i guess rife |
| 4561s | wouldn't |
| 4562s | um |
| 4565s | swipe probably doesn't |
| 4570s | let's write something like flurry |
| 4571s | doesn't |
| 4576s | matter strike does okay that makes sense |
| 4580s | not not i'm not upset about that health |
| 4582s | roll on there at all that's nice |
| 4588s | that is uh that's a |
| 4590s | wait a second |
| 4591s | did i put the one for my inventory and |
| 4592s | not my better ones awesome |
| 4597s | awesome good job mike |
| 4599s | so good at this |
| 4602s | oh |
| 4603s | just all pro |
| 4605s | [Laughter] |
| 4608s | [Music] |
| 4610s | oh god |
| 4615s | just like problems |
| 4616s | yeah well you know |
| 4626s | i'm gonna i'm gonna test okay here we go |
| 4628s | i i got something for you |
| 4630s | just a little something |
| 4633s | wait why is it |
| 4635s | not there we go |
| 4639s | this little |
| 4643s | come on here for saying come over here |
| 4644s | for a second yeah |
| 4651s | it's my other drink |
| 4662s | gotta have two drinks |
| 4663s | here's the responsible drink |
| 4670s | really cool rogue armor |
| 4674s | i think she'd be swimming in there |
| 4683s | i think she'd be swimming |
| 4699s | hardest question ever |
| 4701s | uh why have you not used pink as a color |
| 4704s | in your game there's no pink there's no |
| 4706s | pink |
| 4707s | oh there kind of is |
| 4710s | these legendaries are red now aren't |
| 4712s | they they were pink for a while |
| 4714s | um |
| 4716s | is the pink in the loot filter |
| 4722s | it's pink |
| 4732s | that's bows and boots isn't it |
| 4737s | that not pink enough |
| 4742s | a couple pinkies |
| 4750s | if you get the same buff from two |
| 4751s | players will they stack in multiplayer |
| 4753s | uh |
| 4754s | maybe it depends kinda sometimes sorta |
| 4756s | possibly |
| 4758s | um |
| 4760s | if you have so there's |
| 4766s | i guess there's three types of buffs |
| 4767s | really |
| 4769s | four types of buffs i guess |
| 4771s | um |
| 4773s | oh what am i doing |
| 4775s | i thought the first won't be fun to tank |
| 4777s | you know just start us off on a good |
| 4778s | note |
| 4793s | don't ask |
| 4796s | [Music] |
| 4805s | okay |
| 4808s | ah |
| 4811s | [Music] |
| 4813s | we'll get there |
| 4816s | we'll get there okay uh |
| 4820s | my cold res is really abysmal |
| 4822s | and i need to do something about it |
| 4825s | before i can do this fight i think |
| 4829s | i don't think i can even survive it long |
| 4831s | enough |
| 4832s | without better cold res |
| 4834s | so |
| 4839s | our options are take the boots off |
| 4842s | don't want to do that nice boots uh |
| 4845s | switch out some of our idols for more |
| 4846s | cold res |
| 4848s | uh switch up one of our other items for |
| 4850s | something with more cold res on it not |
| 4853s | huge on that because i don't even |
| 4854s | prepped |
| 4859s | uh level up more i guess it's an option |
| 4861s | as |
| 4869s | well um |
| 4883s | change some skills |
| 4884s | yeah |
| 4901s | easy too easy let's see what happens |
| 4905s | really dying is an option too yeah it's |
| 4906s | an option |
| 4907s | um okay so so multiplayer applying skill |
| 4910s | uh applying buff something there's what |
| 4912s | i say four different types of buffs um |
| 4914s | there are |
| 4915s | standard ailments |
| 4917s | like um haste for example which do not |
| 4919s | stack no matter how you get them |
| 4921s | it it it so the answer is it works |
| 4923s | exactly the same in single players it |
| 4924s | does in multiplayer is the easy answer |
| 4927s | um but i can go through the types of |
| 4928s | buffs that stack and dild stack in both |
| 4930s | um |
| 4931s | if you have |
| 4934s | um |
| 4937s | so there's non-stacking elements for |
| 4939s | example haste haste is a non-stacking |
| 4941s | element doesn't matter how many times |
| 4943s | haste gets applied to you hastiest |
| 4944s | hastis haste um and over the most recent |
| 4947s | haste to overrides the last one |
| 4949s | um then there is |
| 4951s | uh |
| 4954s | then there is uh stacking ailment buffs |
| 4956s | so things like um |
| 4960s | i don't know a good example there's lots |
| 4961s | of stacking element buffs it buffs and |
| 4963s | debuffs the same thing for ailment |
| 4964s | stacking so like um there's someone |
| 4967s | stacked to a cap like slow stacks to a |
| 4968s | cap buff's debuff same thing um |
| 4971s | ignite has no has no cap just stacks |
| 4973s | forever so those ones will stack just |
| 4975s | like normal um in multiplayer that even |
| 4978s | single player there's also then on top |
| 4980s | of that some |
| 4984s | uh |
| 4986s | some nodes that are |
| 4989s | uh |
| 4993s | just |
| 4994s | like just stat buffs that are granted so |
| 4996s | it'll say like um |
| 4999s | uh and you'll be non-stacking because |
| 5000s | they'll say things like if you have cast |
| 5003s | a fire ability recently four seconds uh |
| 5006s | you have 50 increased cold damage let's |
| 5009s | say so 50 increase coil damage if you've |
| 5011s | cast a fire spell recently um and that's |
| 5013s | a binary just have you completed this |
| 5016s | uh condition yes okay go for it you can |
| 5019s | um |
| 5020s | you can do it no problem |
| 5024s | uh and |
| 5028s | not stand in my way yes |
| 5033s | um and then there's |
| 5038s | this is a mercy |
| 5040s | and then there's |
| 5041s | uh stacking |
| 5043s | normal buffs those are also known as |
| 5045s | unnamed buffs |
| 5047s | um those will just be things like |
| 5049s | um |
| 5050s | nearby allies get 10 plus 10 fire damage |
| 5054s | um |
| 5056s | and that this just that just happens |
| 5058s | there's no condition that happens to it |
| 5059s | there's no like if something has |
| 5060s | happened recently |
| 5063s | do not stand in my way |
| 5070s | oh come on |
| 5071s | this is a mercy |
| 5077s | shutter |
| 5079s | i do not stand in my way |
| 5084s | rise my fallen champions |
| 5087s | aid me |
| 5092s | this is a mercy |
| 5095s | oh no |
| 5096s | shutter |
| 5098s | do not stand in my way |
| 5109s | this is a mercy |
| 5114s | so one of the go-to examples that we get |
| 5116s | as questions is |
| 5118s | um |
| 5121s | right little extra smoke bomb hop there |
| 5130s | uh one of the questions we get asked |
| 5131s | about a lot right now is holy aura how |
| 5133s | does that stack |
| 5135s | um and currently holy aura stacks |
| 5137s | um things that are different portions of |
| 5139s | holy aura stack |
| 5144s | so if one person has holy aura that says |
| 5147s | um plus attack speed and one person has |
| 5149s | holo that says plus resistances and both |
| 5151s | of them are active at once you'll get |
| 5152s | both of those pieces however if one |
| 5154s | person if both people have |
| 5156s | holy aura that says |
| 5158s | attack speed but one's stronger than the |
| 5160s | other it'll actually flick back and |
| 5162s | forth between the two constantly |
| 5164s | um |
| 5166s | which is a little frustrating and so |
| 5167s | we're still probably going to be making |
| 5169s | some minor changes to that |
| 5173s | to protect my people |
| 5176s | let's go |
| 5179s | i think that's what we take isn't it |
| 5183s | i know it's not the right thing to take |
| 5185s | uh long term but i think that's what we |
| 5187s | take right now it's just cold res |
| 5193s | now that we need it so badly after that |
| 5197s | oh we got there |
| 5215s | easy now let's go to the one that does |
| 5217s | necrotic damage |
| 5225s | uh |
| 5226s | [Music] |
| 5233s | we probably probably want to do random |
| 5234s | dragons next is if we're gonna do these |
| 5236s | in like priority order |
| 5241s | i should see if i have a |
| 5244s | bow that we could make a nice |
| 5247s | or or a quiver |
| 5250s | so if we have a nice one i kind of want |
| 5251s | to do that instead i'll do one of these |
| 5252s | and see if we can see if we have one |
| 5258s | water drink lots of water |
| 5268s | how's the passive reset button going i |
| 5269s | know it's a top priority we um |
| 5275s | no no one's working on it i'll tell you |
| 5277s | that much |
| 5283s | make the game work in multiplayer is |
| 5284s | more of a priority |
| 5294s | uh any plans to add more voice acting |
| 5296s | yes |
| 5296s | positive things like blurbs when you |
| 5298s | first encounter a new timeline |
| 5299s | absolutely yeah like um |
| 5302s | the voice acting that's in the game |
| 5303s | right now is |
| 5305s | uh fledgling |
| 5308s | good for it |
| 5314s | [Music] |
| 5335s | i should have got a fan going |
| 5338s | a little one was napping when i was |
| 5340s | setting up though and i |
| 5342s | didn't want to risk waking them up |
| 5347s | uh frostbite is one of the most |
| 5349s | enjoyable ailments uh in |
| 5351s | in the game work with |
| 5354s | frostbite is one of the most enjoyable |
| 5356s | ailments in game work with because it |
| 5359s | has |
| 5360s | damage and utility effect without with |
| 5362s | no cap uh will we see more potentially |
| 5365s | infinite investment uh builds in the |
| 5367s | future or is it something you want to |
| 5369s | pull back for progression type builds um |
| 5375s | like like i mean there's |
| 5381s | uh yes to both of those i think |
| 5385s | there's there's there's |
| 5387s | certain parts |
| 5388s | of the infinite scaling of certain |
| 5390s | things that we do probably want to pull |
| 5392s | back on but having the |
| 5395s | more interesting ailments in general is |
| 5397s | really good and having those be able to |
| 5399s | go forever is generally really good as |
| 5401s | well |
| 5404s | i think is the right answer to that |
| 5406s | question |
| 5411s | you know what i haven't done on this uh |
| 5413s | on stream in a very long time it's |
| 5416s | bought a shade of orbus |
| 5420s | unless we have something sweet to make |
| 5422s | into a legendary here i think i might go |
| 5424s | find a shade |
| 5426s | just for fun |
| 5435s | there's a dragon's on my head |
| 5444s | it's attack speed there |
| 5459s | don't see any real standout quivers |
| 5476s | a lot of random things in here |
| 5487s | oh no oh |
| 5489s | no okay |
| 5496s | right that's the same as the first one |
| 5498s | oh |
| 5500s | don't need these things |
| 5513s | let's go find us a quiver huh |
| 5517s | or a shade if you see a shade i'm gonna |
| 5519s | go for it how about that |
| 5530s | uh not sure if these have ever been |
| 5532s | asked |
| 5534s | i bet i can answer them without even |
| 5536s | reading the rest of that question |
| 5538s | when it's ready |
| 5539s | uh |
| 5540s | by 1.0 at the latest |
| 5543s | uh and we're not sure yet |
| 5547s | oh that's close |
| 5549s | when is multiple when it's ready |
| 5551s | um it'll be next patch |
| 5555s | wondering masteries by 1.0 the latest |
| 5561s | it's pretty nice actually |
| 5563s | um |
| 5564s | we're getting uh performance get better |
| 5566s | every patch performance gets better |
| 5569s | and we'll continue to |
| 5578s | i think a big thing to note about like |
| 5580s | our performance efforts up until now |
| 5582s | have been very ad hoc very |
| 5584s | anecdote-based very |
| 5586s | um |
| 5588s | like oh i thought i saw something that |
| 5590s | was bad here or someone on the forums |
| 5592s | reported the scene was really bad there |
| 5595s | um |
| 5596s | and and now it's now it's driven by |
| 5599s | tools that are designed to seek out and |
| 5602s | fix the |
| 5604s | really problematic situations |
| 5609s | based on |
| 5610s | like actual metrics and |
| 5613s | real data |
| 5615s | that's like collected |
| 5617s | properly |
| 5619s | um |
| 5620s | it's a lot more effective |
| 5622s | a lot less time intensive |
| 5626s | means you can get a lot more of it done |
| 5631s | and there's a lot more people dedicated |
| 5633s | to it now than there was before |
| 5636s | so before it was just like |
| 5638s | oh uh we we found some someone said this |
| 5641s | one was really bad so we'll uh have |
| 5644s | someone flip onto that and just do it |
| 5645s | quick okay great that's that's better |
| 5646s | than it was |
| 5648s | and and now it's there's people that |
| 5649s | like their primary goal is just |
| 5651s | performance |
| 5656s | easy too easy |
| 5660s | and they're just slaying it |
| 5675s | and it's always like |
| 5677s | it's not gonna be the same for everyone |
| 5678s | since there's already people that are |
| 5680s | like what performance problems you know |
| 5684s | ding |
| 5686s | oh there's a new level up the visuals |
| 5689s | uh they're way better like these ones |
| 5691s | are nice but uh the new ones are really |
| 5693s | nice |
| 5695s | i always forget these ones exist until i |
| 5697s | play on fridays |
| 5701s | not happening |
| 5716s | oh |
| 5717s | that's nice a little to all people right |
| 5719s | shirt yeah you know |
| 5720s | not bad not bad |
| 5730s | all right well i love the theme for each |
| 5732s | model timeline after your blessings it |
| 5734s | starts to become being uh problematic |
| 5736s | game has 100 plus maps hundreds of |
| 5738s | enemies types but each timeline only has |
| 5740s | 15 ish maps and 38 enemy pool any plans |
| 5743s | uh for a corruption farming island that |
| 5745s | mixes all maps and enemies for making |
| 5746s | the end game rhyme |
| 5748s | uh blessings less repetitive that's |
| 5750s | interesting i don't think that's we've |
| 5752s | really gone over that |
| 5753s | um |
| 5755s | idea i think the hope was that we would |
| 5757s | be able to set it up so that even on the |
| 5758s | end game grind it would be |
| 5760s | um you'd still want to switch but i |
| 5762s | guess the fundamental nature of |
| 5763s | corruption farming one timeline does |
| 5766s | cause it to |
| 5768s | um really favor not doing that |
| 5772s | um |
| 5778s | i think it's a really good point |
| 5782s | something that would go really well on |
| 5784s | the uh |
| 5786s | suggestion post on the forums huh |
| 5795s | uh you guys talked about how you'll |
| 5797s | address pool saturation |
| 5800s | how to deal with how to do a pool |
| 5802s | saturation |
| 5804s | that's what that is |
| 5813s | pool saturation |
| 5818s | what do you mean by pool saturation |
| 5827s | like |
| 5831s | i mean i mean so okay like |
| 5833s | do you mean like the fact that |
| 5837s | i think the answer is is |
| 5840s | economy resets through cycles and |
| 5841s | ladders |
| 5842s | um |
| 5844s | like a lot of resets i think i think |
| 5845s | that's the answer but i'm not entirely |
| 5847s | sure what pool reset pool saturation i'm |
| 5849s | sorry |
| 5855s | oh my goodness |
| 5866s | no problem had it all along |
| 5874s | that's a good thing to warm up brown |
| 5876s | pants |
| 5879s | like the character in game |
| 5885s | it's either brown |
| 5887s | see |
| 5891s | miner |
| 5892s | green |
| 5894s | easy too easy |
| 5900s | uh our cycle is going to be themed based |
| 5902s | on main boss from engineer five uniques |
| 5904s | based on engineer style make this happen |
| 5906s | uh |
| 5907s | cycles will have |
| 5909s | um |
| 5913s | i i i don't the short answer is i don't |
| 5914s | know really um |
| 5917s | it's cool suggestion but having specific |
| 5920s | uh |
| 5922s | like five uniques in a single cycle |
| 5924s | seems pretty light to me i'll say that |
| 5941s | oh i think it's fine for the most part |
| 5943s | but uh |
| 5944s | degenerates like me do like 400 maps |
| 5946s | today same 15 lancer yeah |
| 5949s | there's there needs to be |
| 5951s | i do think you're you're an extreme case |
| 5952s | lizard like you're you're definitely an |
| 5954s | extreme case um that doesn't count that |
| 5956s | doesn't make it any less valid or |
| 5957s | important um |
| 5959s | i think that we need to have ways |
| 5962s | to make |
| 5964s | individual echoes |
| 5966s | more interesting in general and i don't |
| 5968s | think that's a mystery or surprise or |
| 5969s | anything |
| 5979s | these 1.0 cycle one uh |
| 5982s | they might not line up perfectly |
| 5987s | like we we might do |
| 5989s | i i i answer is i don't know yet but i |
| 5990s | think what might happen if i was gonna |
| 5992s | guess is say 1.0 will drop and then |
| 5995s | um |
| 5996s | once we're sure things are stable we'll |
| 5998s | start cycle one |
| 6003s | because we don't want to have the |
| 6005s | uh internet hug of death |
| 6008s | wreck the start of cycle one |
| 6014s | unless we're like really confident |
| 6015s | because |
| 6016s | we're already everything's going so well |
| 6018s | in testing maybe we will start right |
| 6020s | away i don't know |
| 6022s | that that'll be a that'll be a decision |
| 6024s | for someone smarter and more experienced |
| 6026s | than me |
| 6032s | and will likely be heavily influenced by |
| 6034s | all of your feedback |
| 6049s | all right go ahead i make a pair of |
| 6051s | paragraphs with examples to help my |
| 6053s | points along because trying the grammar |
| 6055s | typing the grammar isn't my best suite |
| 6057s | sorry |
| 6058s | item pool saturation |
| 6060s | when build design |
| 6065s | even |
| 6066s | with reset won't change the fact we can |
| 6069s | target farm |
| 6070s | and get uniques fast and most with lp |
| 6073s | pretty easy so rare |
| 6075s | rares exalted tend to fall off over time |
| 6077s | entirely |
| 6078s | in favor for builds with only lp uniques |
| 6081s | which i see becoming a huge problem in |
| 6083s | the future okay i see what you're saying |
| 6084s | so like |
| 6085s | um |
| 6089s | best in slot gear for most builds will |
| 6092s | be |
| 6093s | uh |
| 6094s | like |
| 6095s | you can define it by like a four lp |
| 6098s | unique in this lot with a specific |
| 6101s | very high level exalted item to go with |
| 6104s | it i think that's the key there is that |
| 6106s | exalt is as long as |
| 6108s | like legendaries are valuable so were |
| 6110s | uniques and exalted it's just |
| 6111s | intrinsically those two things are |
| 6113s | valuable together so exalted won't ever |
| 6114s | fall off as long as legendaries don't |
| 6117s | fall off you know |
| 6119s | um |
| 6121s | like |
| 6121s | i i think that set items do need |
| 6124s | something to stay relevant |
| 6127s | um i think there's other ways we can do |
| 6129s | things |
| 6130s | um to help keep |
| 6131s | other items relevant so so there's you |
| 6134s | can have |
| 6135s | kind of meta items like |
| 6137s | um |
| 6140s | singularities |
| 6142s | and not really a great example of that |
| 6144s | um |
| 6145s | i mean if you only have one equipped |
| 6147s | sort of what i was getting at there so |
| 6149s | like |
| 6151s | um |
| 6151s | you can have items where it's like |
| 6153s | plus |
| 6154s | you do double damage if you have no |
| 6156s | unique or legendary items equipped or |
| 6158s | something weird like that you know like |
| 6160s | if you have only set items equipped with |
| 6162s | your entire character you do triple |
| 6163s | damage i don't know something weird like |
| 6165s | that um i think there's ways you can |
| 6167s | build that into items that enable |
| 6169s | certain play styles and certain certain |
| 6171s | builds through |
| 6173s | like different |
| 6175s | itemizations |
| 6187s | or like |
| 6189s | set items like somewhere thing where |
| 6191s | said items get there like need one less |
| 6193s | item to complete their set bonuses or |
| 6194s | something |
| 6196s | that's a diable three item |
| 6198s | um but yeah like there's i think there's |
| 6200s | things like that you can do to |
| 6201s | incentivize more diversity there |
| 6204s | just through new items |
| 6207s | um but yeah i agree that that eventually |
| 6209s | for long term |
| 6211s | play if you if you if you're playing for |
| 6213s | a ton of time |
| 6215s | um |
| 6215s | not going through cycle resets yeah |
| 6217s | eventually you'll have these ridiculous |
| 6219s | builds of characters that have like |
| 6221s | big legendaries |
| 6223s | um |
| 6224s | i don't think it's a bad thing really |
| 6226s | um |
| 6228s | there has there has to be there has to |
| 6229s | be a tail there has to be like an end in |
| 6231s | sight i think or else or else there's |
| 6234s | the progress if there's no end in sight |
| 6238s | i think |
| 6239s | the uh like what am i doing i'm done |
| 6242s | this one the gear progression becomes a |
| 6243s | little |
| 6245s | um difficult to quantify |
| 6248s | i guess i want to say |
| 6255s | so i think like i said the original |
| 6256s | answer that was just kind of a guess the |
| 6258s | question mostly i think the answer is |
| 6259s | cycles really |
| 6266s | uh suit again i agree maps need more |
| 6268s | stuff but i feel uh it's a dangerous |
| 6271s | topic exploring maps in las vegas is |
| 6273s | pretty tedious maps are big characters |
| 6276s | are slow dashes honoring cooldowns uh |
| 6278s | you've talked about more exploration but |
| 6280s | i hope if a map has something |
| 6282s | for me to find i know when i enter the |
| 6284s | map and i don't have to full explore a |
| 6286s | map to find nothing so this is actually |
| 6287s | an interesting topic that we we we have |
| 6289s | talked about and um |
| 6293s | maybe it's not a maybe it is guaranteed |
| 6295s | maybe it's not guaranteed maybe it's um |
| 6298s | not guaranteed but uh |
| 6300s | implied that there's more of it or |
| 6302s | something like that maybe there's like |
| 6303s | maybe that's the reward maybe that's the |
| 6305s | special echo reward in that one where |
| 6306s | it's like there's there's there's a high |
| 6309s | concentration of |
| 6310s | this extra random event to happen |
| 6313s | there's a higher probability of this |
| 6314s | random event to happen in this zone |
| 6317s | and so you know like okay this is a good |
| 6319s | one to explore |
| 6320s | and so you explore that one in |
| 6322s | particular instead of just like always |
| 6323s | exploring all of them in hopes that you |
| 6324s | get it or just randomly stumbling across |
| 6326s | it sometimes |
| 6328s | um so |
| 6329s | you definitely got |
| 6331s | that's a very good point and i agree |
| 6333s | more aware of it |
| 6350s | uh this island has treasure on it to |
| 6352s | find yeah |
| 6358s | you might find treasure on |
| 6360s | one out of a hundred dozen ounces i |
| 6361s | think that would be a low |
| 6364s | like yeah like like that maybe the |
| 6365s | default numbers wanted 100 but the ones |
| 6367s | that say it's like one out of five or |
| 6368s | something or one out of three |
| 6378s | or the ones that say that can have |
| 6379s | anywhere from like zero to four of them |
| 6381s | or something i don't know like |
| 6383s | maybe everyone saw you won't find with |
| 6384s | any but something to find with multiples |
| 6386s | on those ones that are like spiked to |
| 6388s | have them and so and just so you know |
| 6390s | that like |
| 6391s | this is like a good one to search but |
| 6392s | you can always search if you want and |
| 6395s | there's always a chance or something i |
| 6396s | don't know this is sort of |
| 6398s | we're we're in the hypothetical big time |
| 6399s | but yes i i definitely agree there needs |
| 6401s | to be some sort of |
| 6402s | um |
| 6405s | communication of the player so you're |
| 6406s | not like full clearing every single one |
| 6408s | in the hopes of finding these |
| 6420s | uh have you thought about if a person |
| 6422s | takes the time to fill stability bar |
| 6424s | within a monolith to increase the unique |
| 6426s | objective reward payout as people choose |
| 6429s | to to go faster |
| 6431s | and get reward fast get more of it when |
| 6434s | playing |
| 6437s | um |
| 6439s | you know yeah |
| 6444s | sorry the last little bit of that was |
| 6445s | you know that the more you kill the more |
| 6447s | you get out of the chest and yeah i know |
| 6448s | you know that i assume you do that um |
| 6450s | but yes i i we have talked about that um |
| 6456s | we wanted to keep the |
| 6458s | rewards the the |
| 6461s | the initial goal was to keep the static |
| 6462s | rewards like they come out of this |
| 6464s | swirly |
| 6465s | um echo special echo reward |
| 6469s | uh stone thing to be static and not |
| 6472s | based on how much you killed |
| 6474s | and this would be the scaling so one |
| 6476s | static and one scaling reward |
| 6478s | um |
| 6480s | who knows if that's successful enough |
| 6485s | oh |
| 6486s | look what look what i found |
| 6489s | look what i found we're gonna do that |
| 6498s | ellie has such meaningful combat while |
| 6500s | exploration is tedious and pewy it takes |
| 6501s | five seconds to clear fog of war so even |
| 6503s | if you find nothing it doesn't feel that |
| 6505s | bad |
| 6506s | hey |
| 6507s | you think elasti [ __ ] on the other hand |
| 6524s | maybe there needs to be a backtrack |
| 6526s | bonus for movement speed |
| 6534s | how do you detect backtracking |
| 6566s | not happening |
| 6582s | oh |
| 6584s | okay |
| 6588s | that was a bigger hit thank you someone |
| 6592s | kessel hawthorne |
| 6594s | 10 month resab very nice thank you very |
| 6597s | much glad to have you with us |
| 6601s | oh mike's so small so handsome grinding |
| 6604s | those cr |
| 6605s | crucial mottos puggers why thank you |
| 6615s | will monolith progression be shared |
| 6617s | between party members right now we don't |
| 6620s | uh |
| 6620s | have shared model progression between |
| 6622s | characters so it would feel even worse |
| 6625s | um |
| 6626s | we're still working exactly on how |
| 6628s | that's all going to happen it's really |
| 6629s | tricky to |
| 6631s | um |
| 6633s | have that function nicely without be |
| 6635s | horribly exploitable |
| 6638s | and |
| 6639s | um i right now we're we're kind of we're |
| 6642s | leaning on more on the side of have it |
| 6644s | function nicely and let it be a little |
| 6646s | bit exploitable |
| 6647s | um |
| 6648s | then then have it be less fun to play |
| 6653s | and not be exploitable that makes any |
| 6654s | sense |
| 6657s | um we think that's the better the more |
| 6660s | fun thing it's gonna basically based on |
| 6661s | a lot of feedback for sure especially |
| 6662s | early feedback um |
| 6670s | but the short answer is if you're like |
| 6674s | one thing i know we're planning for sure |
| 6676s | is |
| 6677s | um |
| 6680s | there's a bit of a disconnect here with |
| 6681s | the way it's set up and the way we want |
| 6683s | it to be and and and the way it works |
| 6685s | everything and so |
| 6686s | if if you're in a group and you all |
| 6688s | complete the model together and you all |
| 6689s | get the reward together um and you exit |
| 6692s | that monolith you've all unlocked that |
| 6693s | you've all completed that model and |
| 6695s | you've all unlocked the next one |
| 6697s | like that's |
| 6698s | that that's happening |
| 6700s | at the very least |
| 6704s | all right let's do this |
| 6708s | let's do this |
| 6718s | hello |
| 6722s | um |
| 6737s | my voice is terrible what have i done |
| 6755s | distractions |
| 6769s | it's a little on the chaotic side right |
| 6771s | now |
| 6782s | destruction |
| 6807s | no problem |
| 6809s | got it done |
| 6811s | oh my god the ring |
| 6816s | has anyone ever got that ring before |
| 6823s | uh d2 is actually similar you get an |
| 6825s | enigma tp you know dudes on x like in |
| 6827s | fiscal you don't you go to the pits why |
| 6829s | no backtrack |
| 6830s | yeah um |
| 6832s | there's definitely backtracking in d2 if |
| 6834s | you don't have uh we'll give anything |
| 6835s | there's definitely backtracking |
| 6843s | you get really good and you learn |
| 6845s | layouts a bit and you can uh you can |
| 6847s | avoid some backtracking but |
| 6864s | like start farming keys and tell me |
| 6865s | there's no backtracking |
| 6884s | so |
| 6893s | oh it is it's really hot |
| 6899s | let's |
| 6900s | do a |
| 6901s | do a water break |
| 6915s | haven't played in a while any plans to |
| 6916s | add resizable text for drops uh we |
| 6919s | haven't started working on ui scaling |
| 6921s | yet um but that's a fairly requested |
| 6924s | item i think that would fall in the |
| 6925s | accessibility category which is |
| 6927s | um being started to be worked on |
| 6931s | there's lots of accessibility issues |
| 6932s | right now that we need to address |
| 6937s | uh and that includes all sorts of things |
| 6939s | like um |
| 6942s | uh text size um |
| 6944s | colorblind um |
| 6948s | uh |
| 6952s | like more more generic controller |
| 6953s | mapping |
| 6957s | it's a lot of added fire damage there |
| 6961s | uh what else is in there |
| 6964s | subtitles |
| 6974s | got a passive |
| 6979s | let's just go a little bit more dodge |
| 6983s | a little bit more dodge rating |
| 6992s | four minutes left |
| 6994s | i was gonna do another uh |
| 6996s | jewelry kill but i don't think we'll |
| 6997s | make it there |
| 7007s | uh okay uh now my speed run senses are |
| 7010s | tingling what about campaign |
| 7012s | quest we'll be able to um |
| 7015s | to tp to someone for the campaign yeah |
| 7018s | um |
| 7020s | yeah you'll be able to bring people up |
| 7025s | oh |
| 7025s | let me rephrase that the way it is now |
| 7028s | you can bring people up |
| 7033s | you can rush people |
| 7034s | [Music] |
| 7036s | there are like there are campaign |
| 7037s | rewards that are |
| 7039s | quite useful to have |
| 7046s | not happening |
| 7060s | not happening |
| 7071s | yeah if you if you just get portal |
| 7073s | directly to monoliths |
| 7075s | like if someone just takes you directly |
| 7077s | into time like level one |
| 7079s | you're uh you miss out on a lot of |
| 7082s | like |
| 7084s | you miss out on all of your passives all |
| 7085s | of your idol quests |
| 7087s | might have to drop something |
| 7089s | you're kind of stuck with |
| 7091s | a significant disadvantage and having to |
| 7093s | go back anyways |
| 7096s | and yeah it's faster to go to to go back |
| 7098s | once you're higher level and everything |
| 7101s | and that's also part of the reason why |
| 7102s | we have |
| 7103s | um |
| 7104s | multiple places you can get those idle |
| 7106s | quests and passive quests completed |
| 7107s | throughout the timeline so you can pick |
| 7108s | the ones you like the most |
| 7129s | and there we go |
| 7145s | get that xp still struggling to get that |
| 7147s | level up eh |
| 7150s | it's 93 is pretty high level actually |
| 7153s | well |
| 7155s | i had a ton of fun playing bow mage |
| 7158s | i think it's a |
| 7161s | dynamic play style |
| 7164s | lots of cool stuff it does |
| 7165s | tons of dps output which is great |
| 7169s | this is me trying to get that cold res |
| 7171s | that i need like get cold res i need it |
| 7178s | just barely got there in the end |
| 7183s | uh yeah we will be |
| 7186s | back again next week |
| 7190s | uh same time same place as always if you |
| 7192s | have any questions i didn't answer |
| 7194s | because i'm a jerk and i miss them i |
| 7196s | apologize |
| 7198s | but i'll be happy to answer them in |
| 7200s | our discord ask the devs channel um |
| 7203s | you can head if you don't like that you |
| 7204s | can go to |
| 7206s | reddit uh forums other places there's |
| 7209s | people replace answering questions if |
| 7211s | you've got them we'll try our best to |
| 7212s | answer them |
| 7217s | let me see who's |
| 7219s | who's on |
| 7222s | lots of people on right now |
| 7233s | [Music] |
| 7236s | haven't haven't seen this one in a while |
| 7239s | don't know where you've been |
| 7243s | okay well uh that'll about do it for me |
| 7245s | today |
| 7247s | i hope you had fun i know i did |
| 7249s | uh as always i'll be here next week um |
| 7253s | next week we will have a special |
| 7256s | lore |
| 7257s | master special guest that will be here |
| 7259s | um yeah if you have any more questions |
| 7262s | that uh |
| 7263s | you want to get answered um please head |
| 7265s | on over to our discord ask the devs |
| 7268s | channel put there just put like this is |
| 7269s | a lower question for friday stream um |
| 7272s | or if you are going to be there next |
| 7274s | time just bring the questions to the |
| 7275s | stream itself super happy to have any of |
| 7277s | that there um |
| 7280s | the the person i'm bringing uh one of |
| 7282s | the absolute original people that was |
| 7284s | working on the project he was here |
| 7285s | before i was |
| 7286s | um |
| 7288s | he was he's |
| 7290s | this is a day one person here |
| 7293s | so we'll um |
| 7295s | we'll get lots of great answers which is |
| 7297s | awesome i hope to see everyone there |
| 7299s | i |
| 7301s | will see you next time |
| 7304s | i hope you have a great day |
| 7306s | drink lots of water it's too hot to not |
| 7308s | drink water drink lots of water please |