[2020] Making Base Classes More Distinct

Patch 0.7.8 is right around the corner and we’ve got some pretty big changes coming down the pipe that I want to talk about before they go live. We are making significant changes to passives, masteries, item base types, uniques and affixes.

For those of you that have been with us for a while, you’ll know that our passive system has changed quite a lot. Overall we’re really happy with it right now. It provides a familiar way to customize your character and brings depth to build crafting. Having said that, it has a few issues that we are working to shore up. Primarily, mastery trees unlocking at a different time than when you select your mastery class was confusing. You would effectively pick your mastery by placing a point in its mastery tree, but would make the actual decision later. Splitting up these moments really takes away from the impact of both.

Your feedback is what encourages to evaluates systems like this. We still get questions about how the passive system exactly works with regards to mastering and what you have access to. Our goal in this update is to more strongly link the act of selecting a mastery class with your progress up the passive tree. We really want that moment of picking a mastery class to be epic and exciting. Unlock a mastery bonus, get a new skill, and unlock the mastery class passive tree.

It’s a lot that happens all at once and you might have just thought, “What? I have to wait to master to unlock the mastery class passive trees?” That’s right, we’re making you wait. It’s ok though, we’ve expanded the base trees to have more nodes. You’ll still only be required to allocate 20 points in your base tree to put points into your masteries but you’ll be able to continue investing in the base tree above 20 to access new nodes and skills.

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Body Armor and Helmets are the most visual (non-weapon) pieces of gear. Having 2D and 3D artwork for these slots that matches is important. As a Sentinel, when you put on a red doublet and it looks like a full plate set of armor, there is a big visual disconnect.

Recently, we have been working to make the gear you wear change the way your character model looks. We also don’t want to have “Leather Armor” have different 2D art for different classes just so it matches each 3D model. Going back to your stash on different characters and having huge chunks of artwork change would be jarring and unfortunate.

To solve these design requirements, we have decided to add in 32 new body armors and 32 new helmets (8 for each class). Each with completely unique stats. OK, fine, some are a little similar but none are exactly the same.

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All previous types body armors and helmets will no longer drop, be available at the shop or be gambled for. Gear that already exists on your characters and in your stashes will not be affected. It will remain available and functional as an heirloom of a forgotten age.

Now, before you go running out to stockpile old gear, the new stuff is better. Trust me on this one, you’re going to want the new gear. All the new body armors and helmets are class locked. So really each class is getting 8 new chest and helm pieces. These are spread out over the level curve with the top tier pieces requiring levels in the 60’s and some in the very low 70’s. This change does increase the total number of high tier base types for all classes to give more end game viable options. Most new pieces of gear have secondary implicits that are thematic and class appropriate. You’ll see things like cast speed on Acolyte, minion damage on Primalist, crit chance on sentinel and mana on mage. You are significantly more likely to find body armor and helmets that your class can use, but will still find base types for other classes at a severely reduced rate.

With access to this new system of class locking body armor and helmets, we have an interesting opportunity to create some new affixes that just wouldn’t otherwise work. Introducing, class specific affixes. That’s right, affixes that can be broken down into shards and applied to gear that only work on specific class gear. There are nearly one hundred new affixes coming, many with skill specific effects. These new affixes will be very rare to find as a shard. You’ll have a much better time hunting them on gear. Yes, I know the immediate reaction to this is “loot filters when?”. Sorry, not this patch but they are coming and it’s gonna be awesome.

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Now, these class specific base types have a few more implications for uniques, sets and gambling. A select few unique and set items have been converted to the new class specific base types (edit: very few changed, almost all are unchanged). If you're wearing them on the wrong class, sorry it will get forcibly unequipped when you load that character up. All other uniques are sticking with their original base types, and will drop during gameplay normally. (edit: The probability of getting any specific unique to drop in combat is unchanged) Some of you are probably wondering, "if I can't gamble for an old base type, can I still gamble for that unique?" No, you can only gamble for uniques that have a matching base type. We know this isn't ideal, and plan to have other ways to get specific uniques in the future.

I know there is a lot of new info in here but it does not come close to outlining all the changes to passives, masteries, item base types, uniques, affixes and more coming in 0.7.8. Full Patch notes are right around the corner. As always, we are very interested in what you all think about these changes. See you soon travelers.

Class specific unique weapons are definitely in the conversation.

You will still need a minimum of 20 points in your base tree but the trees have better stuff and have some higher nodes now too.

Some uniques will be class-specific, others won’t be.

For the former there may occasionally be similar uniques created that are available for other classes; be that a specific other class, or just lacking a class requirement entirely.

 

A future update will make datamining much more difficult than it is currently.

There will be alternative means provided for those interested in creating Last Epoch-focused sites to incoporate game data into them. Both that resource and the upcoming mitigations against datamining will be gradually improved over time.

 

I am Scottish - so definitely north of a border.

It’s more heavily weighted towards getting your own class gear at the moment but it is a really easy dial for us to turn and we will be adjusting it in response to feedback.

Edit: also I might have read it wrong but I think you might have misunderstood me llama8. Exanguinous isn’t class locked.

Yea for sure, I know very few items have been converted to a new base type.

Those are both options we considered and are still on the table. We’ll be paying close attention to how the new version feels so our ears are open.

We only changed a couple chest pieces. Boots and amulets don’t have class specific base types so it’s not a concern for those 2. You are right on the money with the types of items that we did change though. Things that affect specific classes and/or skills.

Thanks for the feedback. We will be paying close attention to this from the community for this patch especially.

Drops in game are weighted towards drops from your class so you will find a majority of items that you can use on your class. This does not affect the drop rates of unique and set items.