[2022] Developer Stream 9.9.22 | Last Epoch | Last Epoch Dev Tracker

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5s	good afternoon everybody and welcome
8s	back to the last epoch
10s	devstream
11s	as always
14s	i'm your host mike hello how are you
17s	i'm pretty good thanks for asking let's
19s	hop right in
21s	we're going to keep playing our same
22s	build your holy trail it's pretty fun
25s	i've been enjoying it quite a bit i'm
27s	going to keep playing it
28s	cruising through some monoliths i think
31s	we've got a
32s	i was trying to unlock empowered to
35s	crank up that difficulty
38s	uh yeah we are an hour earlier than
40s	usual i've got some
43s	some family stuff to take care of at the
45s	usual second half of the stream so
49s	we're starting an hour early
54s	savoli
57s	so
60s	i don't know i probably said that wrong
61s	but i'm keeping with it hello nicholas
66s	how's everybody doing
67s	burger daddy these terrible things that
69s	you do
70s	would they be
71s	submitting an application and
74s	signing an nda and waiting patiently oh
78s	oh yes
84s	now last week i muddled with my settings
86s	i was trying to get some more of the
88s	music in the background to come through
90s	and they made it really hard to hear me
92s	so please let me know
95s	how it sounded for everyone here and
96s	i'll tweak on the flight it's i did some
98s	adjusting
100s	after last one and i hope it's better
107s	oops that was a
110s	bad volatile reversal
113s	it's been a busy day so far today
116s	yeah so if this is your first time here
118s	i'm just gonna play some last epoch and
120s	please feel free to ask any questions
122s	you have about the game and i'll do my
123s	best to answer them
124s	you put at last epoch game in the
128s	question i will see it better
132s	and as always our stream is strictly for
134s	charity so we've got good sports as our
137s	charity right now who help kids get into
139s	sports that uh for various reasons may
142s	not have the ability to get into them on
143s	their own
147s	there's all sorts of reasons but
150s	they just help kids get into sports
151s	which i think is great
164s	yeah and uh so as many of you may know
166s	on
172s	maybe yesterday the last couple of days
175s	we turned on our multiplayer servers for
177s	our community tester program again and
179s	we don't plan on turning them off
184s	just just ever no
185s	as long as we possibly can keep them on
188s	my goal is my goal is years
197s	let's that's started up and going
198s	excited for multiplayer do y'all have a
200s	post up for your most current thoughts
202s	on trade economy for multiplayer how it
205s	work etc no we don't actually there's
207s	there's basically no information up on
210s	trade the way it's going to be at all at
212s	the moment um we're still pretty early
215s	in this development and we've realized
216s	that we need to be able to test it and
220s	make sure it's what we want before we
221s	really detail
223s	to everyone what what it's going to be
226s	um and so we've we've just had our very
229s	first successful item transfers
231s	um so we're really early testing of item
234s	transfer systems um and so yeah we're
237s	still we're still working out of the
238s	kinks on those systems and uh we'll need
240s	to get some some
242s	testing in before we finish the design
244s	and
245s	start actually talking about what it is
247s	going to be
253s	but will there'll be a wipe before
256s	release
257s	um there's
259s	so well yes but actually no um
263s	everyone who's in the ct program the ct
265s	program is like a um
267s	like a ptr
269s	it's a different it's not public yet but
271s	it's it's a different
273s	entire entity so anything that happens
275s	in a ct program does not carry up what
278s	happens in ct state and ct
281s	and will not be carried over to the live
284s	build version when that comes out um
287s	however once we do hit point nine and we
289s	have an official launch for multiplayer
292s	all of the characters that are created
293s	in that the plan right now i see the
295s	plan right now because you know things
296s	can change maybe there's a problem or a
297s	bug or something but the plan is to keep
299s	all those characters in a
301s	standard league or standard cycle type
304s	environment where they're still playable
305s	um
307s	but they're just not on the ladder
308s	basically so you won't lose your stuff
311s	um but if you want to compete in the
312s	latter and take part in the new uh all
315s	the the new stuff there
317s	whatever that means which still is also
319s	not fully detailed yet
321s	those will
323s	be playable but not playable in the new
325s	league
326s	cycle as we're calling it
328s	um
328s	yeah
330s	i guess another question that i skipped
333s	uh could you please explain sextant
335s	blocking
337s	i mean it's it's a really sturdy sextant
348s	yeah uh it creates a magical shield i
350s	don't know
354s	you don't need a shield to block
357s	um so it's
359s	shields are the most
361s	generally useful
362s	tools for blocking
364s	uh and you can and that's where the
367s	majority of block will come from but you
368s	can block with any device
370s	uh any any weapon anything uh as long as
373s	you have a source of block
375s	be it through a passive skill
377s	or like an item ethics there's also ways
379s	to get blocked
382s	lots of two-handed weapons that block on
383s	them as well
386s	there are lots of few
390s	good afternoon good afternoon i wish you
393s	a great stream thank you very much i
394s	bought the game a long time ago now i'm
396s	facing a problem now i have a terrible
398s	internet almost always except late
400s	evening and night like now
403s	because the game does not support steam
404s	offline mode it is very difficult for me
406s	to enter it and what's more without the
408s	internet i can't enter the character uh
410s	which is also quite painful
413s	uh okay
414s	are there any improvements planned for
415s	this direction so as soon as
418s	you have as soon as you're logged in you
420s	can unplug your internet it'll just work
422s	as soon as you're logged in as soon as
423s	you see that character select screen you
425s	just unplug your internet and everything
426s	should be fine
429s	um
431s	hey uncle john welcome welcome with the
434s	rating party
435s	glad to have you with us welcome
437s	everyone from there we just we're just
438s	getting started pretty early in our
439s	stream this is the official last epoch
442s	developer q a weekly stream
444s	an hour earlier than usual but we're
445s	having some fun
447s	playing pretty casually just
449s	my build's a little overpowered because
450s	i don't have to write stuff unlocked
453s	unfortunately and uh so i'm trying to
455s	i'm trying to get through quickly ish
458s	uh to get this get good stuff unlocked
460s	so i can actually have a tougher time
462s	here
463s	i'll do the dungeons that unlocks harder
464s	content quicker
469s	mike not thinking that's through
470s	properly
474s	um but back to the question we're asking
475s	about steam offline yeah there's um
478s	we do plan to support
480s	um steam offline mode and
483s	um
484s	i i believe that information is
487s	reflected in our multiplayer faq as well
496s	because i like
497s	just was working on the
500s	login flow for offline lock-in flow
507s	login
508s	getting into game while not connected to
509s	the internet
519s	that's how much did you miss extremely
521s	little i've been running for i've been
523s	here for eight minutes been rolling for
524s	18 but
526s	i've only been here for eight
528s	let's get some more info on the
529s	surrounding area
532s	i don't remember if it was answered in
533s	the past will we be able to link items
536s	in chat for 0.9 oh yeah we've been
539s	working on that uh so even if we don't
541s	have trade i can boast my 4lp ravenous
544s	void to my friends if you ever get a 4lp
546s	ravenous void on a an official live
548s	server
550s	um
552s	i'm going to open a large investigation
555s	into hacking
556s	no
559s	yes we are
561s	um we are planning on having item
564s	linking in chat that's part of the chat
566s	upgrades that we are uh rolling out for
568s	the cts right now actually um
571s	the they do i don't think their version
574s	has item linking in it yet but i know we
576s	do have functional item linking in our
578s	uh
580s	internal builds right now
584s	builds the wrong term our like
585s	development environment when you're like
587s	in the editor you can link items in chat
589s	also we also added um game guide linking
592s	so you can like
594s	do like question mark question mark
595s	rarity and it like puts a clickable link
597s	in chat to
599s	the game guide to the rarity page on the
601s	game guide so you can like
603s	and you can do any search term that
604s	would work for that page because each
605s	page has search terms um so like rare
608s	would probably link the same as rarity
610s	um
612s	yeah
617s	it's actually pretty great
618s	there's a whole bunch of whole bunch of
620s	chat improvements coming
623s	really looking forward to those
625s	probably actually start this instead of
626s	just like
631s	stand down or die
649s	i probably didn't be doing a better job
651s	of lining these trails up so they cover
653s	more area better but you know whatever
655s	or die
657s	i'll get to empowered
660s	okay next question
666s	uh yeah and if you do any questions
668s	please put at last epoch game in the
670s	question so i see it better
672s	uh i bet you get my kickstarter thanks
674s	that was a long time ago
676s	um
677s	sorry
679s	i have to say you made great job and
681s	progress folks thank you very much yes
685s	it's uh it's been been a while since
687s	kickstarter yeah
691s	i i sometimes look at the old footage
692s	from the game builds back then and my
695s	goodness it's day and night
697s	it's just completely
701s	it's a completely different game it's
702s	insane
705s	all right uh have you heard the legend
708s	of
709s	joe tour of discard
711s	no i have not
713s	who is joe tour of disco jotaro of
716s	discord
722s	look that's a reference something i just
723s	don't get
724s	uh how did you come up with the idea to
726s	develop last epoch and have you had any
729s	game dead
730s	experience before um so
733s	personally i didn't start this project
735s	um the game director
737s	uh judd he started this whole project
740s	um
741s	and it was just
743s	born out of a love of arpg's and wanting
746s	to make one himself and just so he could
748s	have the the rpg that he wanted to play
750s	really
751s	um
754s	and uh
756s	started started recruiting people um
759s	give a brief a brief history here uh
761s	[Music]
763s	started found a couple people
765s	uh that one one who had actually started
767s	on a project like this already
769s	um but wasn't really prepared to take it
771s	all the way to this far
774s	and
776s	a couple a couple
777s	very talented developers
781s	and
784s	then then once once had like a very
786s	basic version started just posting on
787s	reddit of like
789s	hey i'm making this game this is how i
791s	found out about this it's like just a
792s	couple months in
794s	about three or four months in um
798s	it was on the diablo 2 subreddit
801s	uh it was about a hypothetical skill
803s	system that i was like that sounds cool
805s	let's talk about this i was unemployed
806s	at the time fresh out of university
811s	um
812s	yeah i just started working on it
814s	evenings weekends
815s	um
817s	and then as far as game dev before this
819s	experience for myself personally
821s	um
822s	i have
824s	technically i've got two apps on the
826s	play store released um
831s	and
832s	neither are overly popular which is fine
835s	because they were built specifically as
837s	a
837s	um
839s	just i'm gonna learn how to make games
840s	and see what happens so just having fun
843s	with them
845s	and uh
847s	a little bit of game design outside of
849s	video game space so like um
852s	magic card design so uh
856s	similar but different
860s	i created and printed a
862s	draft set for that
865s	like eight years ago now
868s	which was a ton of fun
870s	i actually have a box of it right behind
872s	me
876s	it was never
878s	sold or anything this was just for
880s	design
884s	exploration stuff
886s	so here's like a booster box of a set
889s	that i made that will
890s	draft and there's like little
895s	all those elastic bands probably sound
897s	fantastic there's like three packs
900s	that are like each elastic together
905s	never do that to real cards
909s	so it's draft ready it's been sitting
910s	like that for like two years we had to
911s	cancel one
913s	that we had planned i just never never
915s	actually did it
916s	fortunate
920s	and then there's
921s	so many other people on the team that
922s	have very different game design and
924s	development experience
926s	stories to my own
929s	basically every every story you could
931s	think of
932s	there's a
934s	different person with one similar to it
935s	on our team
938s	all right moving on will there be more
940s	arena champions bosses coming to fill
942s	the rest of the classes of their build
944s	seems a great way to put in some class
946s	specific chase uniques oh absolutely
948s	yeah um
950s	that's it's a really interesting design
952s	space so there's
954s	i think there's a lot of room for doing
955s	some cool stuff that we've kind of
957s	talked about
959s	as like general ideas of like oh
961s	wouldn't it be cool if
962s	uh type things one idea that i i always
965s	like and i don't know how we do it um is
968s	putting in like last cycles
972s	uh arena winners in different categories
975s	into the arena champion pool for the
978s	next cycle or something like that or
979s	like characters based off of the
981s	character they used so maybe not like
983s	expect exactly the same with the same
984s	gear or anything like that but like oh
986s	uh like a hammerton was uh top of the
989s	ladder so we'll put a hammerton in the
991s	champion pool for next time type thing
993s	and i think there's lots of cool ways to
995s	involve the community that way the other
997s	thing we've talked about doing is just
998s	having it be um characters that staff
1002s	play
1003s	so just like oh we'll put we'll put
1005s	jack's
1007s	uh
1008s	flurry rogue in this week
1010s	i don't think there's anyone named jack
1011s	on the team actually there is i
1013s	apologize
1020s	try to pick a name no one has on our
1021s	team and i probably picked a more
1022s	obscure name
1027s	jack if you're out there
1029s	and you work on this game and i don't
1030s	know somehow
1032s	i'm sorry and i'd love to meet you
1035s	i'll be pretty surprised
1038s	all right
1040s	uh good afternoon hope all as well yeah
1042s	it's pretty good any chance for the last
1044s	epoch to be running on steam deck
1046s	anytime soon sorry if the question's
1047s	already been asked well um
1049s	so steam deck is uh it's a very new
1052s	platform
1053s	um i think there's only three of us that
1055s	have one at this point um
1058s	so we don't have a lot of ways to
1060s	develop and test for it at the moment
1062s	um
1063s	it is something we'd like to get
1065s	involved with but we don't have any
1067s	plans for specifics on if or when we do
1069s	that uh
1071s	it's not a huge stretch to get it
1072s	working well because we are taking a lot
1074s	of general optimization
1076s	steps right now that will help a lot
1077s	with it we are working to finish our
1079s	controller support which will help with
1080s	a lot with it and we do already have
1081s	native linux support so those are like
1083s	the big things that are needed to be
1084s	done anyways to make it work nicely um
1087s	so probably won't be a stretch to
1089s	include it in the future but for now it
1091s	is sort of a
1093s	an extra game mode that we don't want to
1095s	uh support just yet um
1099s	so it's it's probably a post 1.0 target
1102s	i know there's some people that have
1103s	said they've got it working really well
1104s	on there already some people said
1106s	they've got it working ish and there's
1108s	problems and you know there's varying
1110s	results there but uh i'm sure you can
1112s	find some people on reddit forums
1114s	discord that have had
1116s	some success with it if you want help
1117s	getting it working but it is still a
1120s	unsupported platform that we'd like to
1123s	have at some point but don't know when
1125s	that will be
1140s	all right
1142s	let's get out of here
1145s	all right next question
1148s	the jotar of discord
1151s	go to the last epoch general just
1154s	chat and search for jotard you'll
1155s	understand okay i will i don't usually
1157s	keep too close by on general there i
1159s	usually just look at uh
1161s	message suggestions and feedback those
1163s	are the ones i
1166s	keep up to date on
1169s	uh do you folks have a lot of
1171s	interactions uh trading ideas with
1173s	similar games dev teams
1180s	oh like like do we um
1184s	like do we do we talk to like the the
1187s	crate guys to the grim dawn or uh gtg
1190s	does poe like do we do we talk to those
1192s	guys a whole bunch and things like that
1193s	um
1194s	there's there's a little bit of like i
1197s	i've been in a call with um some of
1199s	those guys and uh which was which was a
1201s	ton of fun it was great um
1204s	we didn't really talk about our games
1206s	much and for the most part it was just
1209s	like chatting about games like you do
1210s	with a
1212s	friend you haven't seen in a few years
1213s	and you like games and want to talk
1215s	about them
1219s	um so i can't say we have like game
1222s	design powwows or anything like that
1224s	um
1225s	but yeah there's there's um
1229s	there's there's contact i would say
1232s	not a ton
1233s	all those are really busy
1237s	speaking of crate and grim dawn uh they
1239s	just released or are just put into early
1242s	access
1243s	uh a new a new game in a new genre for
1245s	this frontier
1246s	um
1247s	play a little bit of had a ton of fun
1249s	with it
1250s	um
1254s	did one run
1256s	got a little uh
1258s	a little
1259s	high uh full of myself that's the term
1262s	uh i thought i was thought it was hot
1263s	stuff and uh
1265s	put it to hard mode and got demolished
1269s	absolutely demolished
1280s	all right
1282s	uh what's the progress on the sfx and
1284s	vfx front i love them all the games
1287s	balance and extremely fun the visual
1288s	effects just don't feel chunky enough
1290s	yet um well i will say that
1293s	there's a lot that's happened there's a
1294s	ton i've been there's a there's a whole
1295s	bunch of little clips from previous dev
1297s	streams um
1299s	that uh if you just want to see those i
1302s	think there's a forum thread andrew
1305s	tilly i think um
1307s	i think
1308s	posted that that has like links to
1309s	basically all of them um so there's lots
1311s	of good resources there if you want to
1312s	see a bunch of examples of what's going
1314s	on
1316s	that is something that i can say we are
1317s	getting extremely positive feedback from
1319s	the ct's on um
1322s	is the updates the visuals the effects
1324s	and sfx that have come through on that
1326s	are
1327s	being very very well received
1333s	so that's coming in 0.9
1341s	did i miss the question
1342s	i did it wasn't paying me i absolutely
1344s	will try my absolute best to get my two
1346s	friends play once monkey lunches okay it
1348s	wasn't a
1349s	question but sweet
1351s	glad you're having fun
1354s	[Music]
1356s	uh you once mentioned that ballista was
1358s	an example of a skill that was designed
1360s	a while ago and could use some love uh
1364s	will skills like this get that love
1365s	before the three other masteries get
1367s	released or is there plan to update
1369s	where mastery's missing skills update
1370s	skills get in implemented before 1.0 um
1374s	yes and no to all of that there's sort
1376s	of uh there's not a strict like this is
1378s	the order things are happening in that i
1379s	can give you um
1381s	we we don't
1383s	we
1383s	work on all of it kind of together
1385s	simultaneously
1386s	um
1387s	i don't know when
1389s	the masteries are coming apart from the
1391s	fact that sometime between now and 1.0
1392s	inclusive um
1395s	so they're coming eventually
1398s	as far as those other skills you'll see
1400s	changes to skills happen to existing
1402s	skills happen every patch
1405s	whether that is ballista specifically on
1407s	next patch um i can say we haven't done
1410s	a bunch of work on it yet
1412s	there's a lot of things i want to do to
1414s	ballistic i've been playing i mean the
1415s	the character i've been playing online
1417s	for the last like three months now um
1421s	i've been i've been trying to make
1422s	ballista work
1424s	in a like like leveling process early
1426s	monoliths and all that sort of stuff
1428s	and
1430s	it's just not
1431s	it's just not there
1433s	i really want it to be but i've been
1434s	trying to get a lot of play time with it
1435s	to really get familiar with how that
1437s	that feel is in not in the super late
1440s	game timing so it's um
1442s	learning that process and and how that
1444s	builds up is i think really important
1448s	oh what do i want
1452s	nodes wise
1457s	let's just finish that off
1460s	good note
1462s	i was wondering will you eventually make
1464s	expensive skins that are large in scope
1467s	for example skins for transformation
1468s	skills with completely new theme model
1470s	animations and so on that's like
1474s	um maybe i don't have there are no
1476s	examples of that that i can point to
1478s	that have been created yet
1480s	um
1482s	so i can't say yes for sure and i also
1484s	don't like saying no for sure just about
1485s	anything will it ever happen questions
1488s	um
1489s	i will say that we do plan to have uh
1492s	skill
1494s	vfx
1495s	options to to to like replace your skill
1498s	vfx in in the mtx store um
1501s	i could see like a bundle maybe having
1505s	like uh like a fire mage bundle or
1506s	something and it's just like all the
1508s	fire skills i don't know
1510s	just making that up right now it's
1511s	maybe that sort of thing but um
1516s	yeah and you can see examples of that
1518s	where is it this button
1520s	um
1521s	like skill effects
1523s	sort of uh this is what that was to
1524s	indicate that that we are going to put
1525s	skill effects in the
1527s	as a cosmetic thing you can have
1532s	stand down or die
1534s	so then that can be something as simple
1536s	as like making fireball blue
1539s	or like
1541s	very uh very large scale changes
1544s	um that i don't have good examples for
1546s	right now because that's
1547s	um
1548s	i don't think we have any of those
1549s	created yet
1554s	or not intentionally anyways i bet
1556s	there'd probably be ways to like make
1558s	skills look like some enemy skills in
1559s	certain situations
1561s	i can see that being a cool thing
1564s	there might be reasons not to do that i
1566s	don't know multiplayer reasons um
1570s	we'll see
1573s	i like that idea though
1583s	how did you decide on the exact crafting
1585s	material pickup range
1587s	uh i can imagine it was hard to find the
1588s	right balance between lazily pick up the
1590s	whole screen and just get frustrated
1591s	your you can't pick up uh drops of one
1593s	mob pick up in one go uh because they
1596s	died too far with each other
1599s	from each other
1601s	yeah it's um
1604s	trial and error
1605s	just uh pick pick a pick a size and
1609s	see how it feels make it bigger make it
1610s	smaller see how it feels
1617s	i think the key thing is the minimum had
1619s	to be
1620s	items dropped from
1622s	one pack of
1624s	like densely packed mobs would be
1628s	uh
1629s	like all picked up simultaneously so if
1631s	like a
1632s	a medium-sized pack of densely
1634s	grouped mobs or attacking you you kill
1636s	all them at once
1638s	any shards they all drop should all kind
1640s	of vacuum up together i think that's
1641s	sort of the like
1643s	rough reasoning
1646s	so to speak
1649s	uh if you were starting last epoch
1650s	development today would you go with
1652s	unity engine yeah this is an interesting
1654s	question and it's uh like if you knew
1656s	what you knew now would you do it all
1657s	over again um
1659s	and it's it's really difficult it's a
1661s	question i get asked every couple weeks
1663s	and it's tough to answer because
1664s	i think the answer is yes i would still
1666s	go with unity
1668s	and i know it's kind of surprising
1670s	um
1670s	and it wasn't my decision to go with
1672s	unity in the first place but i i think
1673s	it was a smart decision to go with unity
1676s	um
1676s	i don't know if we would have been
1679s	able to get to where we are now without
1680s	going with unity
1682s	now if we're gonna start over today with
1684s	like the established studio that we have
1687s	and everything like that's a different
1688s	story it changes the circumstances a lot
1690s	but like if this is a knowing what you
1693s	know now
1694s	would you go through it again with unity
1695s	again yes absolutely
1697s	um
1700s	with an established studio maybe not i
1702s	don't know that's a tough question to
1704s	answer
1707s	i don't think there's been anything
1708s	that's like
1710s	severely problematic with unity that's
1713s	that we've really never we i think we've
1714s	gotten to a point where like
1717s	cursed
1718s	the fact that we went with unity and if
1720s	only we had made a better decision back
1721s	then we our all our problems would be
1723s	solved
1728s	[Music]
1730s	all right i've read a bit about the
1732s	bizarre what are your ideal trade system
1734s	for the game when it's released
1736s	um i don't unfortunately have any
1737s	details on what trade would look like
1740s	will look like for last epoch when it
1742s	releases yet um the bizarre system is
1744s	something that we had discussed and are
1746s	no longer planning to do at this point
1755s	and it's one of those things i'd rather
1757s	not talk about my personal preferences
1759s	on the matter because it does get pretty
1760s	muddy um
1765s	yeah sorry sorry i'm gonna decide
1767s	sidestepping the trade question but i
1769s	apologize though
1774s	uh why won't shh why won't shattering
1778s	chains drop
1782s	ah i don't know that it's sorry
1787s	it's like like like there's shattered
1789s	runes of shattering
1792s	it's probably a unique item that is like
1793s	don't know the name of
1800s	if you elaborate on what that is i can
1802s	possibly answer it but for now i'm gonna
1804s	move on sorry
1806s	uh seeing the uh ig situation you're in
1811s	uh beg the question
1814s	any oh the in-game i see any plans uh on
1816s	normal monolith shortcut uh for over
1819s	geared re-roll yeah so this is this is a
1821s	very unique situation um
1826s	because so i
1828s	don't spend a lot of time
1830s	uh
1832s	preparing for streams or playing the
1833s	game
1834s	outside of multiplayer testing and
1836s	actual development and so the characters
1839s	that i play on stream um i do use
1842s	development tools to create them
1845s	so it's not really a good
1847s	uh example often in progression systems
1850s	unfortunately
1851s	um
1854s	but i do is it is sometimes feedback we
1856s	get especially on more experienced
1858s	players um
1859s	getting powerful builds in their second
1861s	third fourth character into early models
1863s	and getting out of it quicker
1864s	recently we did increase the speed of
1866s	that quite a lot
1868s	um
1870s	so i think we're still sort of in that
1872s	uh let's observe phase of um
1876s	of modifying those things
1878s	and
1878s	[Music]
1879s	it's possible it could change again but
1881s	i don't think there's any
1882s	specific uh immediate plans for it right
1885s	now
1890s	hello
1890s	and everyone getting hyped for 0.9
1894s	hi master sword glad to have you here
1899s	i'm also 100.9 it's gonna be it's gonna
1901s	be a bit silly we're not
1903s	uh i don't want anyone to think we're
1904s	like right around the corner or anything
1906s	like that
1909s	we're still in ct testing
1912s	we're still taking people into the ct
1913s	program you know
1916s	all right also as a follow-up question
1918s	to these skins are you planning to make
1920s	them in line with the current game
1922s	aesthetics yes or only some goofy or
1924s	bikini skins no um our plan is to have
1927s	all the mtx be things that
1930s	could
1931s	uh feasibly exist in in universe what's
1935s	the t i always forget the term for this
1936s	it's like it's a term that i love
1938s	and i just always forget it i was trying
1940s	to remember this earlier today
1942s	and it's like uh diegetic
1946s	it's kind of the right jump that's kind
1947s	of not but it's something that that
1948s	could exist in the world and makes sense
1950s	in the world so you're not seeing like
1951s	um
1953s	one example we had we had this is i can
1954s	say this because it was a uh
1957s	the person was a
1958s	is a partner of one of our developers um
1962s	who's designing a unique and they wanted
1964s	a ice cream cone
1966s	um
1967s	like catalyst or shield i think it was
1969s	actually it's a request was that a giant
1971s	oversized ice cream ice cream cone and
1973s	we're like we can't do that because it's
1975s	um like there wouldn't be a giant
1978s	oversized ice cream cone
1980s	in in the world
1981s	[Music]
1983s	we can't really explain that one
1985s	um
1988s	so yeah the the things that we do see in
1991s	uh cosmetic we do plan to be
1994s	uh
1995s	in universe in lore makes sense still
2003s	what's your favorite skill you have
2004s	worked on oh that's such a hard question
2007s	uh i've worked on most of the skills in
2010s	the game um
2012s	i uh worked on it all i've worked on all
2014s	the skills the player skills in the game
2016s	um
2019s	so it's what's your favorite skill
2021s	that's kind of the question at this
2022s	point
2023s	um
2025s	[Music]
2029s	it's my favorite skill i really like
2037s	such a hard question
2039s	i really like basic skills that that
2041s	have cool ways to change them oops my
2043s	hand is one off on the keyboard um
2045s	i really like just like fireball and
2048s	something that's like a canvas that you
2050s	can kind of explore and change and all
2052s	sorts of things um
2054s	but i think my favorite one
2061s	um ice shards is that what it's called
2064s	changed the name so many times
2066s	ice barrage ice barrage
2069s	i think that's my favorite one it's very
2070s	like uh lucian alt from uh from lol
2075s	reminiscent
2076s	um
2077s	i really like that style
2081s	no no you know what it is it's shurikens
2083s	it's jerking specifically with the
2085s	chakram node and um
2088s	and synergies with
2089s	the uh with with the shadow clones so so
2092s	having
2093s	like multiple shadow clones and then um
2096s	like throwing shock around having them
2098s	all throw it simultaneously and then
2099s	shifting to have them all the shockers
2100s	like pull back towards you in like a
2102s	line and getting everything like that
2103s	type of movement that's that's my
2104s	favorite skill i'm gonna go with
2105s	shurikens with specifically shocker node
2108s	is my answer
2111s	all right
2112s	uh
2113s	unique belt 120 corruption plus really
2115s	am i that
2118s	whoops
2120s	the problem is the names get changed
2123s	so we have a development name for
2124s	something and then it like has a
2127s	an actual name that gets released with
2129s	i just like never remember what it is
2133s	that's a cool item i do i do remember
2135s	that
2138s	i'm not gonna pick it up
2140s	would normally
2146s	how do you design bosses usually
2148s	um
2150s	i don't i'm not actually involved with
2151s	boss design usually um
2154s	there we have
2156s	uh one person well there's a group group
2158s	of people that are just that are
2159s	encounter designers
2162s	i'm gonna do something else
2164s	see if i can see when i bump the uh
2166s	i think i have
2168s	some of temporal sanctum unlocked
2173s	on this character so i'm just gonna see
2174s	if i can push through to a high level of
2175s	that because that gets tough
2179s	boss design is interesting so i do help
2180s	with it sometimes especially if there's
2182s	new functionality that's needed for the
2183s	boss mechanics um
2187s	come on yeah okay 95 that'll be tough
2193s	okay time to put on big boy pants
2198s	and um
2203s	boss design usually there's
2205s	i don't i don't know how he does most of
2207s	the
2208s	uh initial boss design mechanics so i
2210s	don't really want to speak to it too
2211s	much um
2213s	there's a lot of play testing involved
2215s	though um
2217s	because a lot of a lot of things that
2218s	you think would be fun aren't and um
2222s	just trying stuff out is a really
2224s	important process in that so having fast
2227s	iteration times being able to quickly
2228s	add new components onto skills change
2230s	test them out see how they feel about
2232s	some stuff that's really important quick
2233s	quick changing
2236s	what's that ooh we gotta
2238s	drop
2241s	hey hey
2245s	let's not die come on
2247s	um
2249s	yeah
2252s	please don't forget to put that last
2253s	epoch game in the question if you are
2255s	sending me one so i see it
2257s	um i have a feeling i'm falling behind
2259s	because usually uh
2261s	i think we're in a higher viewer account
2262s	than usual here so i apologize if your
2265s	questions are not getting answered if i
2267s	missed it and you like see that i
2268s	skipped over it please feel free to ask
2269s	it again but uh i just haven't got there
2272s	yet oh ice beetles
2274s	oh
2278s	that's far awesome's way closer let's go
2284s	um
2286s	from design perspective is your team
2288s	dead set on specific vision
2293s	come on 50 that'll be tough we can do it
2295s	uh specific vision for what you want
2296s	last epoch to be or are you inclined to
2299s	create and innovate based on what works
2300s	with your game i know my question is
2302s	heavily poe related but i was wondering
2304s	what other companies in the rpg
2306s	world would think design wise i i think
2309s	that's
2310s	i think there's a really
2314s	it's really difficult to strike the
2316s	balance there and it's really easy to
2317s	get bogged down in one or the other
2321s	um i i think it's
2324s	it's really tough to say like okay it
2326s	has to be one way or the other
2328s	but there's a lot of room for
2330s	um
2335s	it depends is this the answer there
2337s	really um
2340s	i think there are certain things that we
2343s	try to stick to as much as possible
2346s	um but it's important to know when to
2348s	when to cut bait you know when to
2350s	actually um
2352s	like take a step back and there's
2353s	certain things that we've we've been
2355s	pretty firm on
2356s	that um we've realized we just kind of
2359s	had to
2360s	had to make a change later down the road
2362s	um
2364s	and i think it's a lot easier for us to
2366s	make those large uh sweeping changes now
2369s	uh in early access than it is for a game
2371s	like poe um
2374s	to to take those same types of steps
2376s	because there is there's so many more
2377s	franchise players um there are so many
2381s	more systems they have to integrate with
2382s	and such a larger game that it has to
2384s	play nice with um as well i'm getting so
2386s	many helmets i love it i don't have
2389s	a legendary potential helmet to go with
2391s	them though unfortunately
2396s	that must have been the uh the floor
2398s	modifier that i just didn't look at so i
2400s	was like get out of there
2408s	a fellow jaw strike haze watcher i do
2410s	watch jaw straight face sometimes
2412s	um
2414s	but i don't know what i know not very
2416s	often uh
2418s	and uh
2419s	i don't know what comment made you say
2420s	that but there's probably something
2421s	that's slipped into my vocabulary from
2423s	them
2429s	there's a door
2431s	it's not killed enough stuff yet
2439s	oh it's just it didn't trigger one of
2440s	those awesome oh come on
2445s	back and forth back and forth
2448s	let me jump
2452s	someone up there
2454s	i want to lunge targets
2460s	bye
2461s	bye again
2463s	how many other seven idols we need idols
2465s	that's good 40 it's not terrible either
2467s	okay let me see if i can hammer a couple
2469s	of these before the boss uh can you
2471s	share t's hint at upcoming fortre
2473s	changes the company point nine pretty
2474s	please cheer on top uh forge guard i
2477s	think uh master's heard you know this
2478s	already forged getting some stuff for um
2481s	uh
2483s	manifest armor big big visual overhaul
2486s	and some um functional updates let's
2488s	call it
2490s	uh hey man been up there for a while i
2491s	feel the skill effects have changed all
2492s	right oh yeah there's even more coming
2494s	down the pipe too uh how long have you
2496s	guys worked on ellie before it became
2497s	early access um we released into
2500s	uh early access about two years i want
2503s	to say after we started so we did
2505s	kickstarter and there was like it was a
2506s	publicly available um like pre-alpha and
2509s	alpha build before we did early access
2511s	that was like so we've been playable
2514s	since basically day one not quite but
2517s	say month five
2520s	uh
2522s	happy to catch a stream again even
2523s	though i'm a little late to the party
2524s	yes sorry i started early today so sorry
2526s	if it's been asked before but what with
2527s	the upcoming shred rework
2531s	with the upcoming shred rework there's
2533s	not a huge shred rework coming uh have
2535s	you gone back over items like serpent's
2537s	milk again for later date
2540s	uh
2540s	[Music]
2542s	maybe
2543s	shred rework
2546s	oh i don't know what you're talking
2548s	about i'm sorry
2549s	um
2552s	i'm not that far behind i'm not
2553s	basically caught up
2555s	look at me
2557s	no problems
2564s	if you haven't done this fight before
2566s	that giant area effect that's about to
2568s	that goes off is uh
2571s	will will will cause very bad times
2574s	and um you got to make sure you kill it
2577s	are not killed you gotta make sure you
2578s	jump away
2580s	using your time travel ability that
2581s	you've been using throughout the entire
2582s	dungeon that's sort of the way a lot of
2584s	these um
2586s	uh dungeon boss fights are designed is
2588s	they're designed to
2590s	uh get you to learn a mechanic in the
2592s	first part of the dungeon and then
2595s	use it to kill the boss in the end
2608s	volatile reversal is probably really
2609s	buggy in here though i think
2612s	uh i don't know if i want to use it too
2619s	escape is much
2644s	and yeah if you don't
2646s	go to the other timeline before that
2647s	goes off it will one-shot you
2660s	got her
2662s	easy peasy
2664s	oh that's a nice large stone
2666s	large charm the two slot vertical charm
2668s	my head that's a large charm
2680s	all right what do we got what do we got
2681s	what do we got those are nice
2685s	this is decent but yeah not what i'm
2687s	using for
2692s	oh we could we could make some legendary
2694s	gloves with those just what she dropped
2695s	right away
2698s	so i don't think i have
2704s	do a have an exalted chest i don't think
2705s	i have a good exalted chest i can use
2707s	with that at all we this we do we went
2708s	through this last time and i don't have
2710s	one
2711s	right
2713s	i was supposed to grab an exalted chest
2714s	before coming in here we're just we're
2716s	just gonna make these gloves just for
2717s	fun
2718s	why not right
2721s	so first
2726s	which ones you're putting
2729s	doing spell minion stuff
2733s	and yeah let's crank these ones up
2737s	uh
2738s	let's discover
2740s	a blessing first oh i'm gonna move
2741s	myself over
2745s	discover discover poison res that's fine
2750s	uh but i don't want this prefix let's
2752s	try and seal it nice
2754s	discover another one then
2756s	being in health that actually works well
2757s	with what we're doing it's not great but
2759s	whatever
2763s	boom
2765s	wow
2767s	all right
2769s	it's a t23 pair of gloves right there
2772s	it's not bad at all
2775s	all right let's see what we get
2783s	so if anyone's doing this what we're
2784s	doing is we're taking an exalted piece a
2785s	pair of gloves and a unique pair of
2788s	gloves with legendary potential on it
2789s	we're going into the past we're putting
2790s	up the eternity cache we're sealing the
2792s	cache we're going into the future
2794s	uh and then we are
2796s	uh opening the cache and it combines
2797s	into one legendary item which is the
2800s	unique item we had before with
2801s	affixes pulled from the
2804s	um
2806s	exalted item equal to the legendary
2807s	potential of the item had which i
2808s	believe was one
2810s	um
2811s	so we'll see one random affix from that
2814s	uh pulled over now
2822s	virus
2824s	fire cold lightning griz yeah there we
2825s	go
2827s	and foyer is on the actual base
2830s	yeah those are cool gloves
2835s	let's just toss some random stuff on the
2837s	ground because
2839s	you know what actually
2845s	actually
2849s	don't need shock i'd rather
2861s	let's um
2863s	should we try should we try the full one
2864s	let's try this right let's try t5
2867s	where's the right
2875s	okay
2876s	let's get some questions again
2882s	uh hey quick or how quick are you able
2885s	to iterate on something like a new boss
2887s	mechanic i.e from time code changes to
2890s	play testing in the dev environment um
2893s	i mean if there's code changes basically
2895s	however long it takes to compile
2897s	which is based on your computer's power
2899s	which i mean
2901s	uh depending on how much is there's
2903s	anything importing it's more but like um
2907s	this can be tough i'm probably gonna die
2909s	here i think i i would say
2911s	there's
2913s	there's also a lot of things you don't
2914s	actually have to leave
2916s	um
2918s	leave play mode you can just
2919s	change it on the fly so lots of stuff
2922s	one second after making the change um
2924s	because we build a lot of components
2925s	that you can
2926s	um
2927s	put together so say we want an ability
2929s	to have
2931s	so it's a projectile and we want it to
2933s	be able to to heat to home in on a
2934s	target so we have a component that we
2936s	put on that like on that ability and we
2939s	don't even have to leave play mode to do
2940s	this we can just put that on there and
2942s	it suddenly becomes heat seeking and
2945s	you can change the variables on
2947s	uh on there so you can say things like
2948s	okay i want to only pick up targets that
2951s	are within five units away um when it
2953s	does pick up a unit it like it's hard on
2955s	it no matter what
2956s	um or it's like i wanted to pick up
2958s	anything
2960s	even remotely closed but i want to only
2961s	just kind of vaguely move in that
2963s	direction or something like that or or
2965s	you can like invert it to be like i want
2966s	to avoid
2968s	target so like tries not to hit things
2970s	that's always funny to look at too
2972s	um
2973s	and and so there's there's there's lots
2975s	of things you can do where you don't
2976s	need code changes but like when you do
2977s	any code changes i don't know
2980s	20 minutes
2983s	less
2994s	uh our cold skeletons viable right now
2996s	and they're okay
3000s	define viable
3004s	such a hard question too a hard thing to
3006s	actually define
3008s	viable for what
3012s	but generally speaking cold skeletons
3014s	right now are on the lower awesome side
3021s	i think i could be wrong so someone
3023s	somehow there's got like a sweet cold
3025s	skeleton building they're like mike you
3026s	idiot
3028s	oh it would be the first time
3031s	uh what are your plans on balancing
3033s	nerfing metas in the game releases that
3034s	is a crazy broad question and the answer
3037s	is it depends um
3041s	i mean
3042s	the goal is i and i think talking about
3044s	goals is a is a more appropriate thing
3046s	to do
3049s	and some general philosophies i think so
3051s	uh goals being
3053s	um having a diverse
3057s	ladder and competitive environment
3059s	where there are
3061s	um
3063s	more than a handful of builds that are
3065s	able to compete at
3067s	um
3068s	at higher level content
3071s	so you're not
3072s	you're not defining your bill based on
3075s	your content choices
3076s	i'd say that's a general goal that's
3078s	pretty good
3080s	um
3082s	how you go about that really depends on
3084s	the situation
3086s	um
3088s	i think having
3090s	i think there's there's good examples
3091s	that i think we there's examples of
3094s	overpowered um abilities that i think we
3096s	handled fairly well
3098s	um
3099s	and it also changes based on the fact
3101s	that we're in early access and you're
3103s	not fully launched yet all sorts of
3104s	stuff um
3106s	cause i know this question that has no
3107s	relevance to any other game out there at
3109s	all right
3111s	um
3113s	oh i just picked a really hard one
3116s	uh oh and i'm backwards still maybe not
3118s	backwards
3120s	hey not backwards um
3122s	we have so there's a uh
3125s	eq wherebearer is a very popular build
3129s	uh it's short for earthquake warebear uh
3131s	and it gets enabled by an item called
3133s	balder's wrath which is a two-handed
3135s	mace
3136s	that
3137s	makes it so that every time you use a
3141s	movement ability
3143s	non-channeled movement ability i believe
3145s	um
3146s	it
3147s	casts earthquake
3149s	and wherebear has a fairly easily
3152s	spammable short range non-channeled
3154s	movement ability
3162s	so you can
3162s	[Music]
3164s	trigger earthquake a lot with it and
3166s	also in
3168s	um that's interesting
3170s	and ooh that's also interesting and when
3171s	you're in um
3174s	when you're in bear form your rage and i
3177s	say that with air quotes but i'm not
3178s	taking my hand off the keyboard right
3180s	now um
3181s	your rage is actually just a recolored
3183s	mana
3184s	like it literally is just mana ah that's
3187s	a bad vr
3189s	well
3193s	um so you can you can get a lot of
3197s	um
3198s	earthquakes off very easily um we've
3201s	nerfed that build
3203s	so many times
3205s	like
3206s	so many times we've nerfed it people
3208s	have called us out been like oh it's
3210s	ruined you killed the build completely
3212s	it's still one of the best builds it's
3214s	it's not gonna die
3216s	um and i think the general thing that i
3217s	usually talk about with this is say you
3219s	have um so you have a set of like four
3223s	this on the screen will be even easier
3226s	drawing on the screen
3229s	[Music]
3232s	say you have a set of builds that are
3236s	each one of these lines is a build
3239s	and then you have
3241s	uh
3243s	eq wherebear
3244s	that's
3245s	like that
3248s	you know and then you have a whole bunch
3249s	of the ones that are really small it
3250s	doesn't matter
3251s	um
3254s	i think it's important when
3257s	looking at this situation this this
3259s	build needs to be nerfed
3261s	it's clearly better than everything else
3264s	um i know this is a pretty contrived
3265s	situation um but
3268s	for example but like just follow with me
3269s	on this one for a second i think it's
3271s	important and the thing we've always
3272s	tried to do is
3274s	to not nerf it down to here
3278s	um
3279s	and it's it's generally actually
3280s	different down to here so still clearly
3283s	above the other things
3285s	um
3287s	or like i mean maybe give it a range
3290s	give it like this range so like
3292s	somewhere where it's at least as good as
3293s	what else is out there
3295s	um but not
3297s	worse and it can be a little bit better
3298s	so that's fine and i think hitting that
3300s	range is what's impo is what's is
3302s	important or alternatively if we think
3304s	that all of these are too low
3307s	nerfing it down to here and bringing all
3309s	of these up to match as well
3313s	and this is like
3315s	one example of one situation and it's
3317s	different for every other situation but
3318s	this is how we try to approach balancing
3320s	eq
3328s	i like the red pen so i'll switch back
3329s	before you close that
3333s	and and it changes every single time
3335s	there's a bouncing concern like that it
3336s	changes um because sometimes you have to
3339s	look at and it's it's how you target
3341s	that as well so there's something else
3342s	that could have drawn there's maybe you
3343s	have like eq wherebear that uses
3345s	balder's wrath but then you've also got
3347s	like five other builds that all use
3349s	balder's wrath as well so do you target
3351s	baldur's wrath do you target earthquake
3353s	do you target wherebear do you target
3355s	the interaction between those three
3357s	things like
3359s	trying to
3360s	hit the thing that's most unique to that
3362s	build that doesn't hit other builds is
3365s	important um
3366s	sometimes change sometimes instead of
3368s	just straight worse like someone said
3370s	just being like something maybe has say
3372s	plus 100 damage and it's too strong so
3374s	plus 90 damage well maybe instead of
3376s	doing just nerfing it down plus 90
3378s	damage it's um you change it into a
3380s	different stat that maybe um is still
3383s	powerful but it doesn't have the same
3385s	synergies with some other thing
3388s	maybe it's introducing a new set to go
3389s	with it to add new synergies to
3391s	something else to um
3394s	to incentivize just more variety in
3396s	builds as well
3398s	so there's a lot of different techniques
3400s	for different situations and i think
3401s	it's important to note that
3403s	it's all in the case by case
3405s	basis
3412s	oh it was because i use diegetic i did
3414s	not get diegetic from jaw stripe phase
3416s	if that's what that comment was but uh
3419s	it is a sweet comment it's a sweet sweet
3421s	turn
3423s	uh what are your plans on bouncing uh
3426s	whoops uh
3428s	they're kind there kind of is a shred
3430s	rework
3431s	the resist shredder being kept at 10.20
3433s	you're totally right i forgot about that
3441s	you are absolutely correct
3444s	and i died guys
3447s	does anyone know what that means
3450s	it means i'd like to share some stuff
3451s	with you
3452s	so
3454s	here's a little teaser uh a little
3457s	character portrait
3459s	um this will be a
3462s	very familiar face in the future playing
3464s	last epoch
3466s	uh this is keeper balthus
3471s	uh and he will be a pretty pretty
3472s	prominent character
3474s	going forward
3476s	in the future
3488s	uh i think they meant element rework
3489s	specifically the
3491s	poison shred stack 30k yeah um
3494s	sorry so yeah there's some ailment
3496s	changes happening with
3497s	um
3498s	there's certain
3500s	like caps on individual effects on some
3503s	uh ailments like for example poison
3505s	shred
3506s	is only applying for the first 30 stacks
3508s	which is still like it's not really much
3511s	of a nerf to it at this point but it's
3513s	it's just new tech that we put in and
3515s	we're testing it out there
3518s	uh
3521s	not a question about feedback i really
3522s	like the story lessee puck awesome thank
3524s	you we had a lore stream a little while
3527s	ago that if you missed there might be
3528s	some cool new uh
3530s	tidbits in there
3532s	we had our master on and he went through
3534s	a ton of stuff that was great
3536s	um
3538s	you like it because of time travel and
3539s	returning characters if i try a new game
3541s	the devs just keep introducing new
3543s	characters the story to the point where
3544s	i stopped caring i mean there's some
3547s	interesting stuff we can do with time
3548s	travel where
3549s	um
3550s	like you you jump forward in time 100
3552s	years but there's that character is
3553s	still there because magic and um
3556s	stuff's changed and they're you know
3558s	there's there are characters that
3561s	um
3562s	make reappearances in the game which is
3565s	important
3567s	um
3568s	yeah
3578s	hi mr dave sorry if it's already been
3580s	asked do you have opinion on the current
3582s	outrage over the pov community and
3583s	recent changes would be curious to learn
3585s	how you view their new approach to loot
3587s	loot goblins etc i um
3592s	so i have not been playing the most
3593s	recent
3595s	like
3596s	i guess it's been it's been two weeks
3598s	since i've even played
3600s	peewee
3601s	um
3602s	just just been so busy with this that i
3604s	haven't
3604s	haven't had a ton of time to do other
3607s	gaming stuff unfortunately
3609s	um
3610s	so i don't
3612s	uh i don't have any personal experience
3614s	with it
3615s	um so i don't really want to make too
3617s	much of a comment on that
3619s	um
3621s	i i think it's
3623s	i think it's really tough to make
3624s	meaningful changes to
3626s	improve a game that's as large as poe is
3630s	um
3632s	ah that's cool
3634s	uh and i
3637s	uh i don't i don't know from an outside
3639s	looking in i don't know what a better
3642s	option
3643s	would have been
3648s	but i like
3654s	extremely similar feedback on mass is
3658s	[Music]
3660s	generally not to be ignored i think
3671s	i know i'm being like super big
3674s	i'm sorry
3687s	but uh
3689s	i i know one thing they know their game
3690s	way better than i know their game
3695s	that's for sure
3700s	i also know that you like
3702s	i'm sure they get this as well but i
3703s	know there's a lot of conflicting
3705s	feedback as well so it's hard to know
3708s	um
3711s	it's it's hard i think it's hard to know
3714s	what is
3716s	really popular opinions and and and
3719s	unpopular opinions and things like that
3720s	like that's that's i think really a
3721s	tough thing to
3723s	suss out and um
3727s	i think it's one thing i've found myself
3729s	doing more and more since working on
3731s	games
3732s	is um when i'm playing a game and i want
3735s	to leave feedback for it or sorry when
3738s	i'm playing a game and i don't really
3739s	have any
3741s	um
3743s	like negative or like things to say like
3745s	oh you should change this you should fix
3746s	that sort of thing um
3749s	i i find myself leaving feedback
3750s	specifically of things that i like of
3753s	like details of things that i like and i
3755s	think that's really helpful because you
3756s	you start to see
3758s	um
3759s	which things people maybe really like
3761s	and just don't say anything because
3763s	they're just like they're part of the
3764s	game and you're like i love this as part
3765s	of the game but like you don't feel the
3767s	need to say that you like that specific
3770s	thing um because it's already there so
3772s	there's no risk in it changing type
3773s	thing
3774s	um
3776s	and just little things here and there i
3778s	find myself
3779s	um
3781s	commenting on being like oh i really
3783s	like the way this character talks
3785s	i don't know
3788s	and uh so i think feedback like that
3790s	really helps uh developers in general
3793s	because it's the feedback of things that
3795s	are not working is also extremely
3797s	valuable
3798s	um it's it's significantly more
3802s	uh
3803s	prominent saturated
3806s	than the things that are working well
3807s	though
3813s	hello spike
3816s	how are you
3819s	i just said air weird let's get to the
3821s	team what's up too
3823s	she came thank you very much that is our
3825s	community manager who is now uh sub to
3827s	the channel so thank you very much i
3828s	appreciate that
3831s	all goes to the same place so it doesn't
3832s	really matter who has the sub
3834s	oh these are cool these are really rare
3837s	to find vessel memory
3839s	these are really cool so what this is is
3841s	um if you're unfamiliar with this this
3843s	is our monolith echo webinar kind of
3845s	been going off in one direction but it
3846s	goes off in all directions um
3849s	and each one of these has a specific
3850s	rewards this rewards runes this is gold
3853s	but all these ones that i've already got
3855s	are tick marks and so they're completed
3857s	so those rewards can't be done again
3860s	but this is a special island
3862s	that
3864s	if you complete it all of the ones that
3866s	you finished before go back to
3868s	unfinished so you can do them again so
3869s	if you're like um you can farm a web for
3872s	all the like find a whole bunch of like
3873s	unique nodes and if you're looking for
3875s	uniques or something and like get all
3877s	them do this resets them all you can do
3879s	them all again um
3881s	or if you're like really looking for
3882s	swords you just sword nudes you know
3884s	sort of thing
3887s	that's pretty cool i like those ones all
3889s	i'm gonna do is just hardly ever see
3890s	them
3892s	oh my goodness i have something on my
3894s	screen
3896s	uh while i've been playing
3898s	uh
3899s	because i'm a huge noob
3902s	and uh
3907s	yep that's uh
3911s	whoops
3914s	[Laughter]
3919s	sorry guys
3921s	it's such a tiny little preview window
3923s	over on the on the side monitors this
3925s	tiny little bit i just forget about it
3926s	sometimes i need like a thing that pops
3928s	up on my screen that shows that it's
3929s	there
3931s	that doesn't get picked up by
3933s	obs
3935s	i don't know how to do that let me know
3958s	oh look at that
3963s	i do love this bridge for this build
3965s	just works so well
3970s	all right um
3976s	are you aware what's broken at the
3978s	moment build-wise
3980s	uh
3981s	me personally i am not as up-to-date on
3984s	it as i would like lizard um i feel like
3987s	there's
3988s	uh
3990s	some people that probably know it better
3991s	than i do you probably know it's broken
3992s	way better than i do
4006s	i think i've been less involved with the
4008s	specific minutia of balancing lately
4010s	than i have in the past
4021s	also how do you factor players skill
4023s	into and i think that uh part of the
4025s	suppose we don't have the metrics that
4027s	we want uh hooked up yet on a scale we
4030s	would like for
4031s	um
4032s	finding anomalies and outliers and
4033s	builds and
4035s	things like that as programmatically as
4037s	we'd like
4038s	right now it's a lot of just
4040s	um talking to people seeing what's on
4042s	forums
4043s	looking at the ladder to some degree but
4045s	it's less useful
4047s	then you might hope
4049s	uh yeah
4052s	how do you factor players skill into
4053s	build power that's a great question like
4055s	some builds perform really well even for
4057s	noobs while other builds are weaker for
4059s	noobs but super strong once you know
4060s	what you are doing
4063s	yeah i think um
4066s	so
4067s	generally that gets taken into account
4069s	when we're looking at a build on how
4070s	difficult it is to play um
4073s	how and usually that comes from just us
4075s	playing it you can tell pretty quickly
4077s	i think that an experienced player can
4079s	tell fairly quickly
4081s	um
4082s	how difficult
4083s	how much power
4085s	is going to be um player skill dependent
4088s	in the build
4089s	i think i think i think that's pretty
4092s	not like um perfectly but like pretty
4095s	generally i think that's a not too hard
4097s	thing to figure out
4103s	another related question there
4106s	uh what sort of heuristics would be
4107s	looked at while trying to assess build
4109s	power
4111s	there's a lot of them um and i'm sure
4113s	they would change but
4115s	like um
4117s	clear speed clear reliability
4120s	um
4121s	max corruption uh
4127s	just
4129s	deaths i think would be uh
4132s	a good heuristic
4133s	um popularity
4135s	uh max arena waves there's a lot of
4137s	different things this just pops off my
4139s	head
4144s	there's a variety of stuff that would be
4145s	very useful there's probably some weird
4147s	things that i wouldn't think of that
4149s	would be very useful too
4152s	i think it's something that wouldn't
4153s	seem useful but it is
4155s	maybe like um
4157s	uh popularity from ladder start
4161s	like how uh how good of a like a ladder
4164s	starter build is something compared to
4166s	um like where are you in the ladder
4169s	for
4170s	like like
4171s	how i guess how much how many how item
4173s	dependent is the building is
4194s	is there a d3 planner like for last
4195s	epoch there's a um a sweet website
4198s	there's a couple great websites actually
4201s	um there's links on our reddit sidebar
4204s	uh last epoch tools.com tonk labs
4207s	i think it's an s oh crap i've just got
4210s	bookmarks for them
4223s	uh ex
4224s	extremely similar feedback on mass like
4227s	auto pickup shirts
4231s	as i was saying it i knew that someone
4233s	would say that
4237s	and i was i
4239s	go go cliff it go roll back to tape see
4241s	what i said i think i said usually or
4244s	most of the time or often or something
4246s	like that wasn't an absolute statement
4250s	i'd be willing to go to the tape for
4252s	that one
4262s	closed captioning not
4271s	yeah i'm available
4274s	uh no church was born i'm using my face
4277s	tanking stuff like you shouldn't or mike
4279s	explaining stuff on screen it's covered
4281s	with a reveal
4283s	yeah
4289s	it's a good thing uh it's a good thing
4290s	that um
4293s	i'm not a full-time streamer
4298s	don't quit your day job mike
4306s	ideas something you will try to avoid
4308s	the other devs within their their games
4310s	or maybe something
4312s	uh you get inspired by and want to make
4314s	your own take on that for last epoch
4317s	yeah um
4318s	that definitely happens
4319s	and sometimes it's it's subconscious
4322s	um
4324s	i think the like things to avoid happens
4327s	more consciously usually
4329s	um
4332s	but yeah it definitely happens where
4334s	you'll
4335s	um
4336s	we we've had quite a few times where
4338s	someone's like pitched an idea this
4340s	happens all the time someone pitches an
4342s	idea and it's like so excited about this
4344s	idea um and you're like you ever played
4346s	this game and they're like no why
4350s	it's just like copy paste that game it's
4353s	there
4355s	um
4357s	and sometimes we have to be careful
4358s	about uh doing things like that where
4360s	like it's too close we just can't do it
4362s	um
4364s	but most of the time
4365s	we'll just we just make our game and try
4366s	and ignore everything else that's out
4368s	there um but you get influenced by it
4370s	any creative medium you get influenced
4372s	by the things you've experienced it's
4373s	just the way it works
4381s	uh in chat
4383s	uh new to the game what's a good class
4385s	build for someone who likes really big
4387s	weapon hit crits also hi there's uh a
4390s	racing strike voidcleave i think has
4392s	some uh some good big big individual hit
4395s	builds right now
4396s	uh that's void knight
4400s	where's the racing's wiggly right there
4402s	uh and a racing strike both of those i
4404s	think there's ways to get a little nutty
4406s	with those
4407s	um
4412s	probably looking at sentinel in general
4414s	um
4415s	or
4417s	a weapon hits crits yeah you're probably
4419s	looking at sentinel in general
4421s	there's there's some options in um prime
4424s	list as well
4428s	uh earthquake wherebear
4431s	eeky ware bear probably is a good option
4432s	actually
4437s	speaking of deckard kane can we have one
4441s	cannon timeline in models where deca
4442s	kane did not die
4444s	uh to butterfly dust next
4448s	i think i think it's a different
4450s	different world
4453s	isn't it
4457s	yeah
4460s	so like the evolutionary timeline on
4463s	atera and sanctuary could be completely
4465s	different so you know it might be
4467s	billions of years apart from each other
4479s	uh another question here without a
4480s	payment that's okay and he plans on
4482s	additional minion classes
4484s	um
4485s	i would say
4487s	well so
4489s	kinda
4490s	um
4492s	as far as classes that are gonna make it
4494s	in for 1.0 falconer will have a lot of
4497s	minion
4498s	functionality because it's there's going
4499s	to be a falcon that you're going to be
4501s	using
4503s	um
4506s	so there's there's there's stuff there
4508s	but as a
4509s	mass minion class similar to necromancer
4512s	or primalist
4514s	no none of the remaining masteries are
4516s	planned to be in that category
4519s	that doesn't mean you can't have minion
4521s	builds in other classes like there's
4523s	some very successful minion builds in
4525s	sentinel which is generally not
4526s	considered a minion class by most people
4529s	initially at least i think
4539s	and and we are planning on adding more
4541s	base classes and masteries in the future
4543s	as well so there'll be more that will
4545s	come
4547s	minion builds are very popular
4549s	um
4550s	class fantasy and build archetype and uh
4554s	that's that's that's very clear
4560s	uh was it regarding your previous answer
4562s	uh to player power arena waves can be
4565s	misleading i agree to judge power some
4567s	builds you need to play like a god have
4569s	gg gear and try 200 attempts to get 2500
4571s	while some builds are broken you get 500
4573s	waves you first try on a weekend race i
4576s	uh personally brute force bad builds
4578s	into looking op got nerfed when in
4581s	reality the build was underpowered
4582s	compared to what's available yeah it's
4585s	um
4587s	i i do not doubt that we've made that
4589s	mistake with you in the past
4591s	at all
4593s	um
4596s	and and that's that's why i was
4597s	including it as one of many things that
4600s	uh would be looked at
4607s	it's awesome thank you the game looks
4608s	really cool so far excited to check it
4609s	out yeah i hope you do
4614s	uh
4617s	how is warlock going to work similar to
4619s	an alien-based ascendancy or similar to
4621s	wow's minion playstyle you don't have
4623s	any major details on the unreleased
4625s	master classes that i can reveal yet i'm
4627s	sorry
4630s	i probably have mentioned some little
4631s	tidbits on various things here there i
4633s	think warlock's one of the ones i've
4634s	mentioned the
4635s	least about
4645s	uh will you bounce
4647s	uh build with campaign in mind or mostly
4650s	be from model debate um i think it's
4652s	really oops i'm
4653s	dying here i think it's really important
4655s	to pay attention to
4657s	lots of different parts of the game and
4659s	we already do things to try and bounce
4661s	for different stages um
4665s	it's
4667s	it's tricky to balance things for
4668s	earlier game content um but we do try
4671s	and do that
4673s	um
4674s	i think it's more important
4677s	to get into
4679s	uh stricter balance later on in the game
4684s	so like if we were
4686s	uh
4688s	there's almost always a way out of this
4689s	situation i was about to say so it's
4691s	it's tough to to say it's like an
4693s	impasse really but if we if we were at
4695s	an impasse where the only option was
4697s	make
4698s	monolith imbalanced or make
4702s	um
4703s	like the the campaign imbalanced for a
4705s	specific situation like i don't
4707s	i don't see how there'd be a situation
4708s	where you like couldn't get out of that
4709s	because there's so many axes we can
4711s	balance on um but if we were in that
4713s	situation hypothetically we probably
4715s	would err towards
4717s	endgame than the campaign but um
4723s	i i can't think of a specific example
4726s	uh
4736s	if you do any more questions please feel
4737s	free to ask them with an atlas epoch
4739s	game
4740s	so i'll see it easily and no it's one
4742s	that i'm supposed to answer
4744s	and not just a chat
4749s	got some more here
4752s	i just reposted my question sorry if i
4754s	messed up my bad is there a uh purpose
4757s	about oh it's scrolling on its own about
4760s	why minion don't restore all their life
4762s	when you back out of a monolith or when
4765s	you enter a city
4766s	for full minion build it's 20 seconds
4768s	wasted each time two or three months and
4770s	i don't see a purpose for that thanks to
4772s	the game by the way it's really pleasant
4775s	um i so
4778s	this is a tricky thing and we've
4779s	considered different options
4782s	for doing something like this like we
4784s	looked at doing a um
4787s	like a little fountain that you could
4788s	stand in and it would heal your minions
4789s	in town um
4792s	we've looked at a few things for this
4794s	and it's definitely not a closed issue
4797s	um
4798s	part of the problem is
4800s	um
4802s	having
4803s	having a burden of optimal play that is
4808s	kind of painful to do
4809s	and for seemingly no reason
4813s	is frustrating at best and when it when
4815s	that burden of optimal play um
4819s	that's
4820s	uh
4821s	silly
4822s	involves going to different zones
4826s	we really like to avoid it if possible
4829s	so
4829s	if going back to town just heal all your
4831s	minions to full and
4833s	pretty well not not necessarily on
4835s	monolith because it's a little bit
4836s	different but um in a lot of different
4838s	places uh you could just
4841s	boop back to town and oh i'll heal up
4843s	all right go
4844s	and it's it's uh
4848s	having that go back to town go back to
4850s	the world as like a heel button
4854s	is uh
4856s	potentially dangerous
4858s	uh thing to have in the game
4862s	so that's probably why it doesn't exist
4863s	yet
4864s	um
4866s	though that's not to say it won't ever
4881s	uh would you mind sharing any details
4884s	for changes coming to point nine or
4886s	possibly after point nine uh there's not
4888s	really
4890s	like there's
4892s	we haven't done any major changes to
4894s	crit yet we've been talking about
4897s	uh trying to reduce the complexity
4902s	in
4903s	a
4904s	um
4906s	with with [ __ ] because it is a
4907s	percentage based stat
4910s	having increases to a percentage based
4912s	stat
4913s	is quite often confusing to a lot of
4915s	players
4916s	um so we frequently get people say like
4918s	oh i got 50 increased critical strike
4921s	chance but i'm not critting every other
4923s	hit
4925s	um
4925s	it's broken it's a bug so we get that
4927s	bug report
4928s	surprisingly frequently um
4931s	and
4932s	what it's doing is it's a 50 increase to
4933s	your base critical strike chance so
4935s	if you have
4937s	um
4938s	five base crit and you have 50 increase
4940s	you're out 7.5 percent chance which is
4941s	way less than 50 crit chance
4944s	and
4946s	um that disconnect is a little tough to
4948s	deal with sometimes so we're we've been
4950s	exploring the possibility of removing
4952s	increased and reduced and more and less
4956s	uh critical strike chance from most
4958s	things
4960s	um and replace and and replacing them
4962s	with a
4964s	balanced version of
4966s	flat added crit chance that's something
4968s	we've been exploring
4970s	um it's not set in stone it's not done
4972s	it's not
4973s	ready to go or anything like that so
4974s	it's a possibility
4976s	um
4978s	but that's the style of thing we're
4979s	looking at because there's
4981s	having it be um
4983s	having these systems because there's a
4985s	lot of really complex systems that have
4986s	to work together to make uh
4989s	like that you have to use to make a
4990s	character and
4992s	um having those be
4995s	simple enough that people can quickly
4997s	and easily
4998s	oh my phone just thought i was talking
5000s	to it having those be simple and easy
5002s	enough to understand for new players
5005s	but uh deep enough that they can be
5009s	explored by experienced players
5011s	is um
5013s	is a very fine line to walk and is is
5015s	really important and i think it's like
5016s	cornerstone of a of a good rpg's
5018s	itemization system is it's that easy to
5020s	learn hard to master
5022s	uh
5023s	one liner
5025s	um and and having
5027s	and we kind of have to look at how much
5030s	depth does each bit of complexity have
5032s	and people who watch the stream
5033s	frequently will be sick and tired of me
5034s	saying this um
5036s	but
5037s	if there's a if there's a way we can
5038s	remove complexity without removing depth
5041s	that's probably a good thing
5043s	um
5044s	and anytime we are adding complexity
5046s	uh we need to ask ourselves is this also
5049s	adding depth
5053s	and there's
5054s	exceptions to all of that
5058s	and i say ask the question because it
5060s	doesn't necessarily mean if the if the
5061s	answer is no it doesn't say mean like oh
5063s	it's not going to do it or something
5064s	like that but maybe it means we need to
5066s	look at why it doesn't and can we do
5067s	anything to improve it to make it feel
5070s	better or to you know
5073s	like is there a way to change it so it
5074s	does in a good way oh it's the
5076s	collateral i like this a lot
5079s	and a legendary one too
5084s	all righty then mike i recently saw a
5086s	poe player who made us a poe 70 page
5089s	manifesto
5092s	are you looking forward for community 70
5094s	page manifestos thanks i'm finishing
5096s	mine
5099s	at start reading that question i was
5101s	thinking to myself i wonder how long it
5103s	is until i see one of those from you
5105s	[Laughter]
5108s	yeah i mean
5109s	like
5110s	i'll i'll read the whole thing i'll read
5112s	all 70 pages absolutely
5117s	i think
5119s	um
5122s	i i think that
5124s	feedback when it gets that long
5127s	like you get like an essay on it you get
5128s	a
5129s	like structuring an essay like that is
5131s	really important and really a skill
5135s	and um
5138s	so if you are going to do one of those
5140s	um
5142s	make sure make sure it's laid out nicely
5144s	make sure there's
5145s	um sections and you know titles there's
5148s	a reason books have chapters you know
5149s	that sort of stuff um
5154s	because it's it's it's really difficult
5156s	to get
5159s	um
5160s	multiple points across in one set of
5163s	feedback
5164s	um
5165s	and most of the time i i don't know the
5167s	manifesto you're talking about
5168s	specifically or what yours is or if that
5170s	was a joke or not but most of the time
5172s	when i read humongous sets of feedback
5175s	um where it's like a giant forum post
5177s	and i'm not talking specifically about
5179s	last epoch but just in general
5181s	um
5182s	it it it gets muddled in the middle
5184s	frequently where there's like
5186s	um the thread gets lost it's you you
5190s	start to see other points seep in
5192s	um and having focused feedback i think
5194s	is really important and i i there's
5196s	definitely situations where a very large
5198s	manifest like document is
5200s	uh
5201s	useful definitely um
5204s	for the most part most the time feedback
5206s	is
5207s	better when it is
5209s	focused
5216s	and not always
5223s	um
5224s	here we go next question
5228s	he recently applied for the ct program
5230s	awesome is there any date that we know
5232s	when we uh
5235s	when we find out if we got accepted or
5237s	not pretty excited for even the idea of
5239s	multiplayer in the game just how much
5241s	i've enjoyed solo play yeah it's it's um
5247s	like
5248s	have you been terrible to people
5250s	publicly in the community and
5252s	like
5254s	like been banned from chat at some point
5257s	no you'll probably get in at some point
5259s	it'll take some time
5260s	um
5262s	it's it's less about um
5266s	i think there's a big misconception
5267s	about uh thinking that we're like
5269s	looking for specific qualities and
5270s	features in an application of someone
5272s	being like um oh do they have experience
5274s	testing games or something like that or
5277s	how many hours they have playing last
5278s	epoch specifically like a minimum
5280s	threshold or anything like that it's
5281s	less about that and more just there's a
5284s	manual component to the intake process
5286s	and it takes time
5288s	uh and we got a lot of applications so
5292s	we're working through them
5293s	as uh as we can and uh i hope yours gets
5296s	answered along with everyone else's as
5298s	soon as possible and i know it will
5300s	um
5301s	just takes a little time
5304s	so sorry sorry not any in yet
5307s	i hope you get in soon
5312s	uh now that you remember there's a cap
5315s	on shred elements that's being changed
5317s	uh how do you feel that impacts items
5319s	like serpent's milk or harold scary um
5324s	i don't think it has
5327s	a massive impact for most situations i
5331s	think it impacts um i think has the
5333s	biggest impact on more extreme
5335s	situations where um
5338s	where you get into like like pushing and
5340s	like sleeping game content you're
5341s	pushing really hard and and those those
5343s	situations i think is where it has the
5344s	biggest impact
5345s	um
5346s	where things were kind of scaling a
5348s	little bit a little a little bit hard
5351s	um
5352s	i think it does a good job at
5355s	um
5357s	addressing some
5359s	some more ubiquitous mechanics
5362s	that were sort of just auto takes
5363s	because they were so good and so
5367s	not easy to work into just about any
5368s	build and i think it brings a little bit
5370s	more uh consideration into the build
5372s	crafting
5374s	in general um
5388s	rhymer if he's here probably uh can
5389s	answer that question way better than i
5391s	can
5394s	i don't know if he's here though
5404s	uh any possible teasers for what you
5405s	guys have planned for tempest straight
5407s	i'm dying now
5408s	there's
5409s	uh there's nothing planned yet
5413s	um
5414s	there's no details planned anyways
5416s	we plan to make it better
5419s	uh work hasn't been begun on tempest
5422s	strike yet i'm sorry
5426s	we've had some uh
5430s	uh some some like
5432s	there's lots of people that have
5433s	discussed it and thought about it and
5435s	all sorts of stuff we haven't like
5436s	officially gone to say like we're
5437s	starting our tempest straight we work
5438s	now or anything like that
5443s	all right is there any plan to
5448s	is there any plan in expanding the aura
5450s	type skills to other classes and other
5452s	skills it seems passive boosts are kind
5455s	of scarce and you guys seem extremely
5457s	active gameplay as a target but since
5460s	uh
5465s	but since i think
5466s	sincerely one of the most fun times i
5469s	have is when i need two buttons to do
5470s	most of stuff and just run models and
5472s	unwind yeah i mean there's there are
5474s	definitely a significant number of
5476s	builds that can be played with few
5477s	buttons
5480s	um usually it's difficult to
5482s	push really hard
5485s	um
5486s	on a ton of different builds with very
5488s	few buttons
5489s	but there are definitely builds that can
5490s	do that as far as
5492s	um more aura style abilities
5495s	um
5497s	i
5497s	think it's unlikely
5499s	um
5504s	part of the thing is having things
5506s	unique to specific classes is really
5508s	important to us this is like me talk
5510s	about design pillars this is one of one
5512s	of our big design pillars is class
5514s	identity um
5517s	so there's a reason why paladin
5519s	specifically is the only class that gets
5521s	a straight-up classical aura
5524s	um
5525s	it's because that's like one of the big
5527s	parts of the paladin class identity is
5529s	the ability to have an aura
5531s	um
5534s	and like we try and have that like big
5537s	standout mechanic that really
5539s	um
5540s	focuses hard on on specific classes and
5543s	and sometimes there's there is
5545s	like overlap elsewhere so like um
5548s	primals and primeless and necromancer
5550s	predominance and acolyte have a ton of
5551s	overlap so there's lots of minion builds
5553s	on both there's transformation builds on
5555s	both there's melee builds on both
5556s	there's spell casting builds on both
5558s	like there's a lot of overlap there um
5560s	but we always try and keep it pretty
5562s	unique and
5564s	um
5568s	i i
5569s	there's not a ton of room for
5573s	uh unique and varied mechanical
5576s	interactions for
5577s	even theming
5579s	uh for an aura style
5582s	that's that's pretty beefy
5586s	um
5587s	for uh for for auras yeah
5590s	like we already struggle a bit to come
5592s	up with uh interesting mechanics for the
5593s	skill tree for holy or just in general
5595s	because it's usually just like a lot of
5596s	stats
5597s	um
5600s	there are there's been some cool ideas
5601s	i've seen recently though that'll i
5602s	think improve that
5604s	and uh i could see i could see other
5606s	classes coming down the pipe in the
5608s	future like other masteries that aren't
5609s	in the game yet that might be
5611s	thematically suited to aura style
5614s	abilities
5616s	at a similar level to paladin or at
5618s	least more so than
5620s	uh classes that are already in the game
5626s	and we do get triggered aura abilities
5628s	all over the place but but it's just
5630s	having that like that primary active
5632s	ability being an aura skill is pretty
5634s	paladin
5636s	[Music]
5642s	oh
5643s	all right can you refill potions when
5645s	you die in the campaign feels bad dying
5647s	to a boss having zero potions efforts
5648s	that's a good point i think that's it's
5650s	probably a good suggestion
5652s	um
5653s	there might be a reason why we can't i
5654s	don't know i'd be surprised i'd um
5660s	if you've got specific suggestions like
5662s	that the best place to put them is to
5664s	the forums
5666s	uh head on over to the forums leave a
5667s	post there
5670s	and we can see it and have record of it
5672s	all that jazz uh i've been running
5674s	hammer throw all the way from start to
5676s	level 92.
5682s	oh mike learn how to drink come on
5684s	uh
5686s	at that i am right now and i spec fairly
5688s	a lot into crit but the following but
5690s	but the throwing crit chance isn't all
5693s	on the stat page like everything else is
5695s	yes
5696s	stat page has a lot of missing stuff
5701s	uh do you guys take precautions or keep
5704s	in mind the concept of keeping things
5705s	clear enough
5707s	in-game in order to avoid players
5708s	depending too much on third-party tools
5710s	like wikis and wikis like in poe yes i
5713s	mean we we try our best to
5716s	create in-game tools for as much as we
5718s	can
5720s	um
5721s	there is danger in too much information
5724s	in game
5726s	it's a bad way to word that sorry i was
5728s	um
5730s	i think there's i think there is a point
5732s	where there's such a thing as too much
5733s	information
5734s	uh in in game that's maybe too that's a
5737s	better way to put two maybe too much
5739s	information that's too
5741s	um
5743s	in your face too readily available um
5747s	i think it can be overwhelming for some
5748s	new players to see like
5751s	like
5752s	come in here and see all this and even
5754s	that can be too much to some players but
5755s	it's nowhere near enough for so many
5757s	other players
5758s	and um so displaying it in an
5760s	appropriate way is really important um
5762s	we do try and get as many of the tools
5764s	in game as we possibly can that's not
5765s	the one i'm looking for um so one thing
5768s	that we do have is this game guide
5770s	um and there's there's a ton
5773s	of information in here
5776s	um
5777s	on like someone's pretty detailed too
5779s	and uh
5782s	like i would consider
5785s	i would suggest looking in here for
5786s	information if you're you want more
5788s	information on certain topics and if
5789s	you've got things that you think should
5792s	go in here that aren't in here yet it's
5793s	a great suggestion to leave um
5796s	there's also uh but and yeah we know
5799s	there's going to be
5800s	um third-party tools that pop up and
5802s	like we've
5805s	there are lots of these tools that have
5807s	popped up that we have had plans to make
5810s	things like it but just haven't had the
5811s	time so we're like
5812s	we've we've got let's build this game as
5815s	fast as we can
5816s	and
5817s	um
5819s	people come along and build these tools
5821s	that are
5822s	really great
5823s	um
5825s	that would be tools that we put on a
5826s	website um
5828s	and they're just already done and it
5830s	sort of it it disincentivizes us a
5832s	little bit from i don't want to say like
5834s	stop making these tools and we'll make
5835s	tools or anything like that um
5838s	because it probably won't affect the
5839s	overall time it would take us to
5840s	actually make these things
5842s	but um it does it does disincentivize it
5845s	a little bit where like you feel
5847s	less pressure to make the tools when
5849s	there is another awesome tool out there
5851s	but yeah keeping things in game as much
5852s	as possible is important to us
5855s	um
5858s	and
5859s	yeah like like uh so for example like um
5861s	last epoch tools has like a build
5863s	planning system and a build sharing
5864s	website and everything and it's really
5866s	well done
5867s	um and and there's so loot filters have
5871s	descriptions
5874s	um so this big description field and
5875s	blue filter and it's kind of weird that
5876s	there's this big description field here
5878s	because if you're making the loot filter
5880s	um
5881s	like widening the description field yada
5883s	yada and
5885s	one thing we want to do still with loot
5886s	filters is have them be
5888s	uh shareable
5890s	in-game so that you can you're like i
5893s	want to like go to the loot filter
5895s	browser and find
5897s	a loop filter from my hammered in and
5899s	you search like hammered and loot filter
5901s	or whatever and it like brings up a list
5902s	of ones that people have voted on that
5904s	say these ones are good or something
5904s	like that and having that in game i
5907s	think would be really useful
5910s	um
5911s	oh
5912s	the chess piece
5914s	with a ton of increased fire damage
5916s	that's amazing as a
5919s	uh
5920s	uh
5922s	flippin legendary piece for our titan's
5924s	heart oh my goodness okay okay okay
5929s	uh stop freaking out everyone come on
5930s	why why stop okay calm down calm down
5937s	i can't
5939s	let's go let's go let's go let's go
5944s	let me out of here it's not even done
5946s	yet
5956s	i have no lunch targets
5965s	uh
5966s	i
5966s	i used to play an mmo called rift
5969s	i i i played like 30 seconds of it it
5972s	was very promising but i was very hooked
5974s	on something else at the time
5975s	um
5976s	when you started off they would give you
5978s	some suggested builds the new players
5980s	get started is that an option for future
5981s	valley i it's possible
5985s	um
5987s	i i think it's unlikely to happen
5990s	um i think the goal and something we've
5992s	been fairly successful with so far as i
5994s	think witnessed by
5996s	um
5997s	most comments you see on
5999s	uh on like reddit or something someone
6001s	shows up i think sorry the thing we've
6003s	been successful on is creating a system
6005s	where you can hop in fairly easily and
6007s	just sort of try something to see if it
6008s	works and usually it's enough to get you
6010s	started as a starter build um kind of
6012s	anything will work enough to get you
6014s	going
6015s	um
6017s	within reason like if someone's like i
6018s	want to build a fireball character great
6020s	you can do that it'll
6021s	take fire things and it'll work enough
6023s	that you can get started you know
6024s	um
6027s	and
6030s	you see a lot of comments i read people
6031s	like okay i'm new uh what build should i
6033s	play and a lot of the comments are just
6035s	that they're just
6037s	play whatever you want just try
6038s	something see if you like it
6040s	you know
6042s	and i really love that that's a pretty
6043s	popular comment for us to get
6048s	that's a very positive thing
6051s	um
6053s	i hope we can maintain that
6055s	um
6066s	stand down or die
6068s	oh jud answer it afterwards i wonder
6070s	what he said
6074s	i was a little nervous and jealous right
6075s	afterwards i'm like oh i hope i didn't
6076s	just like contradict him hard
6086s	okay let's get out of here go let's go
6088s	let's go get get get out of here get out
6090s	of here uh when can i apply to
6093s	multiplayer right now go do it forums
6096s	link's there from kane
6097s	uh
6099s	okay go go go go get a key come on go
6103s	41. don't need to do a hard one
6114s	uh do you feel uh
6117s	players are over entitled i i don't
6120s	think so
6120s	no
6121s	i i mean it's such a blanket statement
6123s	like
6124s	some players are yes probably
6127s	most not on the whole now
6132s	uh let's do 80 just a little interesting
6137s	um there's a difference between
6138s	providing feedback and a player feeling
6139s	like they should be deliver uh should be
6142s	a co-developer yeah i i i
6145s	you know like every once in a while you
6146s	see a post that comes along that is um
6152s	maybe a little bit yeah but it's
6156s	i can't say that i really ever feel
6159s	um
6160s	pressure to
6162s	um
6165s	i i don't know accommodate
6168s	suggestions beyond
6170s	what we think is
6172s	uh appropriate or something i don't know
6174s	how to say it really um
6178s	i think if players are feeling
6180s	a sense of ownership over the game and a
6182s	sense of
6184s	um
6185s	like
6187s	a sense of entitlement i think it's
6188s	probably actually a good thing to some
6190s	degree
6190s	um it means it means people are invested
6192s	emotionally it means people are
6194s	um probably at least having some
6196s	semblance of fun like it's it's good
6198s	enough to care you know that sort of
6199s	thing
6203s	um so i don't know maybe in some cases
6206s	but i don't know if it's really a bad
6208s	thing all the time
6210s	so yeah
6218s	it
6220s	i i understand the type of feedback
6222s	you're referring to
6223s	and it doesn't feel like a problem to me
6226s	when i read it
6228s	i the thing i think to myself is oh this
6231s	person's invested they like it there's
6233s	something there's something here that's
6234s	grip them enough to be invested
6237s	so i i question look at it as a good
6239s	thing
6245s	are you still hiring for programmers i
6246s	believe we are
6248s	um there is
6250s	a
6251s	careers page on our website
6254s	um
6256s	i don't know exactly it's probably just
6257s	like last epochgame.com or last
6260s	epoch.com careers um but google will
6263s	probably find it even faster than that
6272s	oh yeah we're going back for that
6275s	it's not perfect but i really like it
6277s	stand down or die
6281s	where am i going
6282s	oh
6283s	no
6284s	don't don't hurt me
6286s	i've got a simple farmer
6289s	is this the way to the market
6296s	all right
6300s	uh hi do you know when multiplayer is
6302s	coming in i do not know when multiplayer
6304s	is coming in i'm sorry
6313s	oh come on
6321s	any dungeon changes coming before 0.9 i
6324s	mean uh
6325s	there's it's not on the
6328s	overhaul list
6329s	but any changes yeah there's always
6332s	changes
6333s	always changes coming down the pipe
6336s	that's pretty nice too actually
6342s	how does this game run on older npcs not
6344s	fantastic right now we are focusing
6346s	pretty hard on
6348s	performance improvements at the moment
6350s	um
6352s	there's several people that are
6353s	just cranking up that fps right now
6356s	um
6358s	finally so after 0.9 you'll probably see
6361s	much better performance than you'd see
6363s	right now
6365s	key things for better improvements if
6367s	you better performance while playing if
6369s	you'd like to try on a lower npc um lock
6373s	the frame rate
6374s	actually for every everyone should lock
6376s	the frame rate i think in this game
6377s	right now with weight performances
6379s	um which i know some people just hate
6381s	but it'll help trust me so right now i'm
6383s	running this on a gtx 1080 ti
6387s	factory overclocked a little bit i think
6390s	um
6391s	an
6392s	i7
6396s	4770 i think
6401s	um
6402s	with probably like
6404s	16 yeah maybe 32 gigs of ram
6408s	escape i think it's 32 now
6411s	um
6413s	really important things classically you
6415s	know games
6416s	solids they drive super important
6431s	yeah um
6432s	but yeah so i'm i'm running it on medium
6434s	settings with a locked frame rate and
6437s	i stick pretty solid at 60fps
6440s	while streaming
6443s	which i know what i said some people
6445s	like oh my god only 60 fps that's that's
6447s	terrible you're basically playing on a
6448s	slideshow and i'm like
6451s	i'm old i don't care
6462s	all right
6463s	some cool helmets here
6465s	i love finding exalted so it's only one
6468s	affix i love it i love it
6471s	it's only a t6 so whatever but you know
6474s	like a single affix t7 i love finding
6476s	those
6478s	um i think we made some changes
6481s	in eight five that actually makes it
6483s	happen more often
6485s	so i think it's already live but uh
6488s	i definitely seen it more recently
6490s	uh about arena thinking about even
6493s	memory arena keys to start half of your
6495s	best ever push
6497s	uh on that character
6500s	about arena thinking about every
6503s	memory arena key to start half of your
6505s	best oh so so um
6508s	have that memory you have the arena key
6509s	memory start at your at half of your
6511s	character's best ever instead of half of
6514s	your last one i think yeah
6516s	uh sucks to start a 300 die leg
6518s	something and then you're back to 150 um
6520s	when the characters start doing 600
6522s	already yeah i i think that's probably a
6524s	good um
6526s	a good suggestion
6528s	um there is a reason it doesn't work
6530s	that way
6532s	right now
6543s	that's a pretty nice amulet
6553s	oh all right
6556s	well primalist nature life and act like
6559s	death are two sides in the same coin
6560s	overlap are hard to avoid yeah
6563s	aura for mastery that isn't in the game
6566s	yet
6567s	so is that a warlock teaser no i'm i
6570s	meant um
6574s	like
6576s	really not in the game yet
6580s	like
6584s	really not in the game yet
6588s	okay gonna flip me over again
6592s	and we're gonna do a little bit of
6595s	crafting so um exalted items that go in
6598s	here have to be four affixes
6600s	um
6602s	so really what we're hoping for is to
6604s	hit this increased fire damage and
6606s	ignite duration i think that's our
6611s	you know
6612s	um
6614s	so this is strength and dexterity so
6615s	attunement is not what we want so i'm
6617s	actually gonna re-roll this into
6618s	something else
6624s	it's unfortunate
6626s	that's unfortunate
6631s	thank you very much uh jazeer
6634s	15 months in a row my goodness
6637s	thank you very much glad to have you
6639s	with us
6640s	glad you're having fun presumably glad
6641s	you're having fun
6643s	all right uh void rez yeah waitress is
6647s	fine let's just crank these up affixes
6649s	up as high as we can
6651s	no you know what i think i want health
6652s	on there if possible
6655s	let's uh
6656s	let's try and just reroll these into
6658s	something cool
6659s	cold res it's fine dodge rating whatever
6663s	cold res again
6665s	health regen yeah
6667s	lightning res yeah
6669s	health hey
6671s	all right i'll take it
6677s	so ideally we want the first and last
6680s	affix i think but we'll take the colders
6681s	what's our cold we're sitting at it's
6682s	way overcapped whatever
6685s	go for gold
6692s	i love that little fade in love it so
6694s	much
6695s	uh all right
6697s	have you had any answers on how trading
6698s	will work no
6699s	this is free to play nope there's 35
6702s	uh to buy the game
6705s	usd it's different for other regions
6712s	uh why do devs never make two ui one for
6715s	advanced players one for casuals uh make
6717s	it toggleable in settings is it because
6719s	it's just too much work it is a lot of
6721s	extra work a ton of time goes into
6724s	making
6725s	um
6726s	the ui for the game and it is
6729s	like having one be crazy polished is is
6731s	generally better i think um
6735s	i also think that there's some danger in
6736s	that because quite often you'll see new
6738s	player tutorial videos where it'll be
6739s	like all right first thing you want to
6740s	do when you boot up the game go into
6742s	your settings turn on advanced visuals
6744s	mode good to go um i think you see this
6748s	in
6749s	uh diablo 3 actually
6752s	with um where you start out first time
6754s	you play like it must have been
6757s	months playing diablo 3 before i learned
6759s	that you could
6761s	um
6762s	you didn't have to put like the skills
6765s	in the slots that they started in
6767s	or you can like you can actually like
6769s	change like you could like
6771s	each slot has like a category that goes
6773s	with it and you can only pick like one
6775s	skill from that category to go in that
6777s	slot by default because in the settings
6778s	you can turn that off
6780s	and put any skill anywhere
6781s	and it
6783s	like the the builds that unlock because
6784s	of that are
6787s	thousands of new build possibilities
6789s	probably way more than that with
6790s	combination compensational stuff
6792s	and so
6794s	oh we hit the fire damage the man is not
6795s	great we got the fire damage nice
6799s	pumped on that actually
6804s	sweet
6808s	i was hoping for the health
6810s	really hope for the health
6812s	um so i i think there's there's some
6814s	danger in the like
6815s	um
6817s	like new player tutorial videos telling
6819s	you to go turn on this advanced mode and
6820s	then it doesn't have the effect it's
6821s	meant to anyways
6822s	um
6828s	but it's it's
6830s	definitely something we've considered so
6832s	it's not a bad suggestion
6835s	is there a release date not yet
6842s	all right we're gonna go for the boss
6843s	get our
6845s	get this echo finished
6850s	i do really like this boss fight
6854s	so there's three of them
6857s	um and if you kill one of them so they
6859s	all started doing a ton of fire damage
6861s	and if you kill one of them they'll have
6863s	different abilities
6865s	um
6865s	they stick around in ethereal form
6868s	and start spamming abilities
6871s	that deal necrotic damage
6872s	in the same on the same on the
6874s	battlefield
6877s	so
6878s	um
6879s	depending on what your i was bald that's
6881s	the uh guy who's the hammer we're
6883s	talking about earlier
6885s	depending on your build you should
6887s	usually in situations like this in those
6889s	games it's best to
6891s	probably obviously most people try and
6892s	kill them all simultaneously
6894s	so you don't end up in that those weird
6896s	unkillable extra
6898s	my soul burns my soul
6903s	their souls burn
6907s	all right we're well challenging we do
6908s	not channel chances are necrotic growth
6910s	we don't want to do it fine let's do
6911s	fire rest
6918s	a lot of fire damage
6920s	a lot of fire damage
6928s	this exact situation kind of reminds me
6931s	uh not having short cooldown scandal
6933s	mobility skills makes some situations
6935s	feel very bad
6937s	just like happening to you now are you
6939s	planning perhaps incorporate some short
6942s	some sort of spammable ability um
6945s	i didn't have that experience personally
6947s	right there uh as bad it was uh
6950s	i i mean limitations i think are
6952s	important
6953s	um there are classes that have
6956s	more short spammable skills like um
6959s	rogues shift is much shorter cooldown
6962s	much spammable or spammabler yeah that's
6964s	a word
6966s	this comes back to the class identity
6968s	thing as well so having those um having
6970s	the so so lunges is really
6973s	um
6975s	and there are items that affect this as
6976s	well so you can have what i was doing
6978s	there with lunch is like there was no
6979s	targets for me to lunge to that's why i
6981s	think that's where back we were talking
6982s	about in temple sanctum and i couldn't
6984s	launch anything because there's no
6985s	targets to lunge to
6987s	um
6988s	it was off cooldown the whole time
6989s	if it's the situation i'm thinking of
6991s	and um
6993s	like there's a unique item if you don't
6994s	like that you want to change it there's
6995s	a unique item that lets you not need a
6997s	target for it but the base version of it
6999s	thematically lunge is your heavily
7001s	armored character
7003s	you're jumping into the fight you're
7004s	it's designed to go to a target you're
7006s	going in not coming out and that's the
7009s	that's the big thematic difference there
7010s	for lunch
7012s	whereas things like shift on the rogue
7014s	it's it's shorter distance it's shorter
7016s	cooldown it's shorter mana it doesn't
7018s	require target it's it's more about
7020s	promoting that just that agile
7022s	dexterity primary melee or range uh
7027s	uh class character play style words
7032s	all right
7034s	i got i got just a couple minutes and
7036s	we're gonna be a pretty pretty quick
7038s	pretty hard out on
7040s	timing here when we do so i'm actually
7042s	not gonna do another echo after this one
7044s	regardless
7047s	fancy shard
7050s	do you know some some shards have uh
7052s	different
7054s	uh different colors on the ground
7057s	and they're rare see there's a normal
7059s	shard different shirt
7064s	make sure you pick those inside
7067s	uh
7068s	don't even have to do a hard one so no
7071s	dying right yeah
7076s	uh same question
7081s	uh have you thought about making skills
7083s	and specializations easier to respect
7085s	early on
7086s	we have
7088s	improved that
7090s	or made it easier several times so yeah
7092s	we've definitely talked about it
7098s	recently
7099s	we added the minimum ability level
7102s	minimum skill level so it made it so you
7104s	wouldn't start at one every single time
7106s	um they also have a catch-up mechanic so
7108s	if your the skill is under level the
7110s	level's way faster
7115s	i think there's some misconceptions on
7116s	difficulties of
7118s	uh re-leveling skills or
7120s	or um experimenting on skills while
7123s	leveling a character
7125s	um and i would i would urge you to
7129s	um
7131s	more frequently respect skills
7134s	like maybe like do an experiment have
7136s	like one that you just never respect and
7137s	then like some others that you respect
7139s	more frequently as you're leveling and
7141s	see how far they actually get away from
7143s	each other
7144s	um
7145s	this is probably going to be they're
7146s	probably going to stick a lot closer
7147s	than you'd expect
7151s	my suggestion would be to make a minimum
7152s	specialized skill ramp quicker as a new
7155s	player feels pretty awful pushing
7157s	uh to try new things earlier to see
7159s	uh what you want to play probably
7161s	leading to more questions about what
7162s	builds should i play yeah i i um
7167s	i think
7168s	there might be
7171s	something in the feeling of losing
7172s	something you've earned that's causing
7174s	negative feelings towards it but i don't
7175s	think it's as extreme as
7177s	most people think
7180s	it is
7182s	uh i've been playing the last few years
7183s	on and off just learned last week you
7185s	guys
7185s	uh stream and gotta say you're gonna
7188s	make disappear thank you trying to grow
7189s	one too like you halfway there thirty
7191s	years old well we are right in the same
7193s	age bracket um
7195s	i'm gonna flip my camera back cause i
7196s	just realized it's the wrong spot i do
7197s	have one last thing to share with you
7200s	that i'm going to put up while i'm
7201s	talking about the last little bit here's
7202s	a little bit of a turnaround
7204s	um with animations for keeper balthas
7207s	that you'll see in game with his happy
7209s	little friend there
7211s	um if you are going to use beard oil on
7213s	your beard as you're growing it out
7214s	which is probably a good idea to do as
7216s	it can get pretty itchy try making your
7218s	own because it is so expensive just buy
7220s	beard oil but making your own it's cheap
7223s	uh i currently kept frames at
7225s	if 40 acolyte build that can read eight
7227s	nine give me that point nine patch
7228s	please on its way uh would you be
7230s	willing to have the team look into
7232s	scaling forging potential when exalted
7235s	items have only one affix
7238s	uh i've run the multiple one two ethics
7239s	resulted items without lacking fortune
7241s	potential to push their limits on that's
7243s	that's unfortunate it's just an rng role
7245s	so um
7247s	maybe if you uh suggestions best left on
7249s	the forums
7250s	uh d3 is called elective mode yes
7254s	a challenge to keep it on yeah
7257s	uh is there a loot filter for
7259s	lp no there's not
7261s	that's all the questions we're at time i
7264s	have a very important thing to go to
7267s	i really don't want to go to at all
7273s	well i do but i don't want it to be
7274s	existing
7276s	anyways um i hope you had fun i know i
7279s	did i will see you next week i will be
7281s	starting one hour later than i did this
7283s	week which is our normal time which is
7284s	one hour before right now for two hours
7288s	normal times next week
7290s	[Laughter]
7291s	is what i'm trying to say
7295s	um we do have lots of other stuff
7299s	planned
7301s	coming down the pipe all that sort of
7302s	stuff
7306s	so stay tuned for fun for adventure

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