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3s good afternoon everybody welcome back to
6s the last epoch devstream
9s as always
11s i'm your host mike
13s it's great to be here
14s i hope you're having a good day good
16s night
18s good morning whatever it is wherever you
19s are
22s oh my friends turn that sound off
25s gotta get that phone charging
27s all right
28s well we're here i'll play a little last
30s epoch if this is your first time here i
33s am one of the developers
34s on this game
36s and it's pretty cool
38s i just like to play around and uh answer
41s some questions so if anyone here has got
42s any questions please feel free to ask
43s them in chat
45s slap an atleast last epoch game
47s on the question and i will answer it
50s hi steve
56s we're just gonna be playing through the
57s monolith
58s um i'll probably head on into some
62s uh some dungeons as well because
64s it's been a little bit since i've done
66s one in this character
69s we've got a few levels recently
76s i might be able to handle it a little
77s bit better we were a little under level
78s before
80s and our gear was a little crappy
84s i'm going the wrong way
91s and for anyone here who's their first
92s time we do also stream for charity so
95s any and all money that comes in from the
97s stream goes directly to them right now
99s our charity is
101s uh saint
102s jude's research children's hospital i
105s think
106s i'm pretty sure that's what it is
114s research might be wrong
117s the hospital helps kids
126s while we're just getting things going
128s here in other news
130s i got a 3d printer
133s yeah
140s it's pretty awesome
143s it's one of the like really bare ones
145s basic ones but
148s you know
150s it can make small figurines that do
151s nothing
157s you want me throw the the hat yeah it's
160s a good hat
162s i found a better helmet and i was
163s considering uh trying to
165s build with it but it doesn't look as
167s cool so
168s the hat stays
183s oh i know what's today
187s today is
189s uh one of four streams a year
191s that is going to be extremely light
195s uh with very few people here and that's
197s totally okay
200s but i don't know why i didn't click but
202s so today is
204s uh there's another game
206s in the genre that releases a patch today
209s pretty sure it's today
213s it probably came out like two hours ago
219s it's mildly popular you know just a
221s little bit whatever
224s but we like to stream anyways i'll have
226s a fun time here
228s if anyone has some some questions they
230s want answered i will be happy to do that
232s 3d print you a barbarian mastery i don't
235s think that's how it works really
237s nope just started okay
242s hello
243s douglas how's it going
248s getting me to look away
261s got him
266s that's how we do
272s at work i'm your distraction
274s happy to be distraction
279s oh you're cued to get in yet
284s all right
286s let's get a unique item right why not eh
297s the bottom of my right foot is
299s incredibly itchy and i have no idea why
301s it just started right as the stream
303s started it was like your foot's going to
304s be really itchy
306s trying to scratch it on the floor my
308s other foot
310s it's not working
331s we had our uh first
334s multiplayer test
336s with people that were not
339s ehg staff
341s the very first time anyone who wasn't
342s ehg staff ever played our multiplayer
345s happened on
347s tuesday
350s some ct's got in there went really well
353s it was awesome
354s had a ton of fun
356s i wasn't actually playing no not i there
358s was a few people i think of our team
360s that were playing with them
361s but uh
363s i wasn't i was just hopping around the
365s groups and watching what was going on
369s yeah it was a ton of fun
380s like i don't want to say it went like
382s better than expected or worse than
383s expected but like i don't know with
385s something like that you're always
386s there's always a small part of you
387s that's nervous regardless of how much
389s you prepared for it like i don't know
391s you ever take like a test that you like
393s you prepared for a lot
395s but still it's you're like the lead up
397s to it you're nervous and like what's
399s gonna happen who knows it was still like
402s that
402s um
404s luckily we studied really well and
407s the worries were for naught
414s you don't think i'm sending in-game
416s sound oh no
418s oh you're totally right
426s how's that
435s my headset did that thing where it's
436s like i'm gonna pretend like i'm not the
438s same headset i was even though nothing
440s changed and you didn't unplug me at all
454s the hardware of this headset is
456s wonderful
462s we'll leave it at that
471s i was doing channeling stuff
474s lightning work don't have any of those
477s things the most anti-my build item ever
482s all right where are we let's get some uh
485s some experience nodes
488s because i want a level
492s no experience nodes oh there's one all
495s right let's go for it
497s there's another one above two as well
501s yeah oh yeah okay i i didn't actually
503s see that question but yes the test went
505s great
506s um
509s i i don't i don't have any info on like
511s when's the next test or anything like
512s that
513s um
514s or like uh when when is it gonna be open
517s for
518s uh getting into it for other people or
520s anything like that i don't know any of
521s that info
523s um
527s but yeah i am
530s really excited for the next one
532s i don't know when that's gonna be either
534s i have so little information on it but
536s it yeah it was a lot of fun it went
537s really well um
543s we didn't there were there weren't any
544s like
546s oh my god oh no everything's collapsing
549s moments which was really nice
566s bow damage shard even i've got 100 i'll
568s still take it
572s random name x
574s uh since uniques are all thanks thanks
576s for reposting with with the tag i
577s appreciate it
579s uh since uniques are so easy to make why
582s don't you guys just throw together a
584s dozen build changing uniques and throw
586s us non-ct's a bone instead of making
589s us wait six months for a patch feels bad
592s man um so okay uniques are
596s um
598s uniques are not super easy to make oh
600s first let's start there there's there's
602s a lot that goes into making unique um
605s there's lots of different stages some
607s stages of making uniques are really easy
610s uh and some stages of making uniques are
611s really easy compared to others so
613s there's um
614s [Music]
616s like there's there's the
618s ideation stage where you're just like
620s picking what it's going to be
622s um
622s and that's surprisingly involved
624s actually just getting like the exact
626s stats that are going to show up on it
627s even though the exact that's just like
629s the rough stats and just getting that
631s laid out where it's not gonna break the
632s game obviously and it's gonna be
634s exciting and it's gonna like all the all
637s these things just getting that
638s decided upon
640s is surprisingly involved time wise oh we
643s got a bunch of stuff oh deadlifts has
645s give this up to father toast
648s thank you very much and congrats to
649s father toast
655s is
657s your son's name bread
661s brad there's the joke
663s i missed it by that much anyways um
669s uh the i think the easiest part about
671s making a unique is actually like taking
673s the is getting the functionality running
675s for the most part sometimes there's
676s really difficult things to do for it if
678s it's a really specialized feature but
680s like
681s lots of the time ooh a temporal center
682s key
684s lots of times just getting the item from
687s this is what i want to it's in the game
688s and it works is actually pretty easy
691s oh
692s big cdr that's nice um
696s and
697s and then there's the art as well which
699s can happen pretty quick but uh
704s there's there's a lot of other things
706s that that go on at the same time
708s um and then what probably takes the the
710s longest part of the process actually
712s is um
714s balancing tuning and testing
717s and
718s um when i say time i'm also not
720s referring to
721s like just number of days i i guess
724s referring to time more of uh from a man
726s hours perspective or a person hours or
729s uh development time perspective so like
732s how many
733s hours is spent in total so if if 10
736s people spend one hour each that's 10
737s hours or if one person spends 10 hours
739s on it that's 10 hours um
742s and because at this stage you get a lot
743s more we get a lot of people involved in
745s it um you end up with a lot of time
747s investment
749s and so quite often we do like to do a
750s bunch of them all together
752s um
753s but the key thing is that if we did
755s decide to do like a unique pack
757s um
759s it it also
761s delays all the other things we're
762s working on
767s because we we'd like to
769s i guess
771s limit the limit the number of things
773s you're working on simultaneously
775s um
778s because quite often working on like
779s eight things at the same time like
781s context switching tapes takes a long
782s time fun fact about uh
784s like little aside here context switching
787s takes a lot of brain power compared to
789s keeping on the same uh thread so there
792s was a um
794s a jeopardy contestant i don't remember
796s his name not ken jennings but like the
798s next
799s highest total winnings and but then he's
802s also the guy that won the most
805s per episode he was on so he didn't last
807s as long as ken jennings but he won more
809s per episode um can't remember his name
811s but he he pioneered
813s he like quit his job
815s and practiced for a couple years where
817s he pioneered a technique where he would
819s um bounce around the board and up until
821s this point everyone would get in the
823s category they like and just run the
825s whole category down
826s but it worked really well because if
827s you're in a category you're good at and
829s you can run the board down um you can
830s get them all lots of points really
832s quickly but at the same time everyone
833s else gets used to that category and gets
836s comfortable and starts answering them
837s and they can jump in and steal
839s and so this guy he
841s practiced jeopardy questions by context
843s switching really quick by bouncing
844s around categories was never the same
846s category twice
847s um
848s and and this led to a technique where by
850s jumping around and context switching so
852s much
853s and all the other contestants were just
855s sitting there confused and they couldn't
857s get a handle on it and
859s he would just run away with games like
861s crazy
862s he did he did quite a few other things
863s as well it wasn't just that but that was
865s like the big thing and it actually had
867s this ripple effect throughout the
869s jeopardy uh the world is as as a whole
872s where suddenly everyone started
874s practicing this way and doing this it's
876s common practice now in jeopardy and he
877s changed the whole face of how jeopardy
879s is played which i think is really cool
880s that a game that have been around for
881s that long can get like an entire
884s strategy revamp with no rule changes
886s like someone just discovered something
888s new i think it's really cool
890s um
890s it's like someone discovers a new
892s technique in a speedrunning glitch or
893s something you know
894s anyways um
896s what am i getting at here so it's a
898s similar thing with work with with um
901s with game development anything really
903s context switching takes time
905s um
906s and so question we try to limit that if
909s possible and so we'll try and do a whole
911s bunch of of items all at once
914s and it's
916s there are things you can put on the back
917s burner and just be like okay well every
918s day i'll work a little bit on this as
920s sort of like a cool down or something
921s that's easy to do and that works too but
923s um
925s we we we like to bundle things together
927s when we can
930s i was right it was saint jude's
931s children's research hospital ha ha
932s nailed it
934s sorry i just saw the notice pop up
936s anyways um
939s that's that's one reason why we and and
941s okay then on top of that as well um
944s quite often you can get there's there's
947s there's very few knock-on effects for
949s unique items
951s so we can quite often get quite a lot of
955s unique items done near the end of a
956s patch cycle
957s and
960s it doesn't really cause problems
962s elsewhere in the game very often
964s sometimes it does but normally we can do
966s it without without big issues so we we
968s like to shift that towards the end of
970s the of the patch cycle now i will say
972s that we are going to be in a longer
973s patch cycle here which is i mean like
976s um
977s things may change so i could be wrong
978s with us maybe we'll do something but
980s right now the plan is not to um
984s release a sort of like a a larger
987s hotfix patch mid-patch cycle if that
989s makes any sense
991s um
991s and i know it sucks to have a weight
993s like that and maybe we'll talk about
994s doing something but right now there's no
995s plans for it as far as i know
999s um
1001s i i think of all the things we could
1002s release in something like that
1004s uh yeah
1006s um
1009s uniques i think would be a good
1011s candidate
1013s um
1017s just doing the patch in general is
1019s tricky as well so um
1022s a lot of time
1024s goes into
1025s producing an appropriate build candidate
1027s a build release and and all these things
1029s and like stability testing for releasing
1031s patches
1035s and if we can avoid taking all the time
1036s for that
1038s that saves us time in the long run so
1040s it's it's sort of a balancing act of
1042s what do we need to get done what do we
1044s want to get done and what can we get
1046s done
1047s and um
1047s [Music]
1050s the total time we have between now and
1051s launch is like
1054s it's fairly limited it's fairly finite
1055s and so we have to
1056s look at all the things
1058s that um
1061s if we're gonna do something like that
1062s that's that's gonna take up some amount
1064s of that time between now and launch um
1066s that's going to add total time to the to
1068s the development like
1069s like hours of development time uh
1073s it needs something else needs to get cut
1075s or it's going to push the deadline you
1076s know and um we don't really want to do
1079s either of those things
1085s so i'd say it's unlikely but possible
1091s yeah that you okay uniques are easy to
1093s make quote yes um
1095s i probably should have said uniques are
1096s easy to make relative to many other
1098s things
1106s there's a lot of other things that are
1107s way harder to make
1115s i was probably referring to the
1116s implementation side of it mostly
1118s which is generally the easiest part
1126s but i don't know we'll see like we i
1127s don't think we've had uh a patch cycle
1129s this long so things could change i don't
1131s know
1135s i will help you with one id for free man
1136s it's right cast meteors on hit one
1138s second i i wonder where i've seen that
1140s before
1144s oh i got a fresh question here from some
1146s from a first time chatter
1149s uh
1152s turjalmar
1155s interesting name
1156s uh i don't know what it means that's
1158s cool uh what is the most exciting
1161s upcoming unreleased feature that you can
1162s talk about that isn't multiplayer okay
1164s good thing you added that because i was
1165s gonna say multiplayer for sure
1167s um
1168s [Laughter]
1170s i mean
1171s i i think uh the easy answer
1174s is like one of the
1176s uh one of the new mastery classes
1178s um so for me to be the falconer
1180s personally
1186s is there a more interesting answer to
1187s that question
1193s probably
1196s for me it's definitely the falconer
1198s uh little things like this like 15 plus
1200s is gonna go away and it's gonna just be
1201s the actual number that's really exciting
1203s i think
1204s um
1206s we have uh we okay here's something
1210s we've recently
1211s here we go
1212s we recently uh changed the way
1215s we do
1217s uh network communications for
1220s ailment
1222s statuses and ailment information in
1224s general
1226s and this comes along with some other
1228s changes to ailments as well that allow
1230s this this change to happen
1232s which is going to
1233s uh
1235s sort of a roundabout way of be saying
1237s we're probably gonna wait gonna have a
1239s way of fixing the
1240s poison problem
1243s so uh the poison problem is that every
1245s single stack of poison reduces the
1247s target's poison resistance
1250s and in multiplayer those stacks can get
1252s incredibly high incredibly fast even
1254s single player they can ramp up really
1256s fast and this like self multiplicative
1259s effect of each stack making every stack
1262s stronger
1263s um
1266s causes some
1267s scaling issues compared to other
1269s ailments
1270s um so this this these new systems we
1272s have for both
1274s communicating across networks how many
1276s stacks everything has and also
1278s um
1281s uh just just changing the structure of
1283s the element code in general has has
1285s given us the ability to fix the poison
1287s problem
1289s so i think that's exciting as well um
1291s it's also going to give us some
1293s new tools to make other elements a
1295s little bit more interesting and unique
1297s so the one thing that we hear quite a
1298s bit is hey
1300s bleed and ignite are basically just
1303s um damage type conversions of each other
1306s they're exactly the same thing there's
1307s no difference
1308s and
1312s now we're gonna have a way to
1316s bring a little bit more
1318s interesting mechanics to those
1321s more unique mechanics make them feel a
1323s little distinct have them function
1324s differently
1331s uh what is the total time uh between now
1334s and launch if that amount of time is
1336s finite great question
1339s uh i'm not going to answer that i'm
1340s sorry
1341s and and okay so technically it's not
1343s finite really um
1347s well okay it's
1348s it's finite but not exact how about that
1351s um
1352s it's an unknown finite amount
1357s we have a goal and we want to hit that
1359s goal
1360s um if the game's not ready by that goal
1361s we'll push it and release it when it's
1363s ready um
1365s but everything we do plans for hitting
1367s that goal
1380s so yeah we we
1383s we always want to be going as fast as we
1385s can and you know like get everything
1387s done as quickly as possible and like
1390s we want to launch the game now but you
1392s know we're still missing some features
1393s it wouldn't exactly be a finished game
1395s if we did right now
1415s all right
1417s uh will achievements view thing if
1419s you've got a question for me don't
1420s forget to put at last default game in
1422s the question i'll be more likely to see
1424s it's a little slow day today because
1425s there's something else going on in the
1427s world you know who knows what that is
1429s um
1430s will achievements be a thing yeah uh
1432s achievements will be a thing
1442s easy too easy
1447s my goodness there's a few enemies here
1451s one or two you know here and there
1460s boom boom
1464s multiplayer when when it's ready
1472s another question here
1473s from next is dev don't forget to put out
1476s last game in your question if you've got
1478s one and i'll see it easier uh will there
1480s be
1480s uh an increase in monster density it's
1483s always fun to clear lots of monsters at
1485s once in other arpg's um
1488s i i think that there will be so there's
1490s certain zones where there's a lot more
1491s monsters than others and especially
1492s noticeable in monolith there's some
1494s density issues in certain areas in
1496s certain situations and part of that's
1498s because the monsters are added
1500s procedurally and sometimes those
1501s procedural systems have gaps
1504s so yeah there will be
1506s changes to that system to make it more
1507s consistent that will be increasing the
1509s density in certain situations
1514s but i wouldn't say yes to like an across
1516s the board yeah it's just going to go up
1517s or anything like that
1519s [Music]
1526s i can't remember what all these are
1527s because they're kind of buried down here
1535s [Music]
1547s [Music]
1548s i do love this one i'm just gonna i'm
1550s just gonna pump it just the decks and
1551s classic loads just so good
1555s any plans to maybe add a fist of heaven
1558s style skill to sentinel class um i mean
1561s smite especially with lightning tendrils
1564s is incredibly similar and i just
1565s realized you might not have been talking
1567s about fists of heavens foh to me is
1569s diablo 257s um i would say smite is
1571s really similar
1574s um
1576s if that's not what you were talking
1577s about please let me know what you were
1578s talking about
1583s and that is base sentinel because
1584s there's a void version conversion in uh
1587s void night
1588s yeah so it's it's it was originally a
1590s paladin skill we moved it because uh
1593s there's like a unique that made a void
1594s version or something like that and we're
1595s like this is cool
1600s it's less awesome on uh forge guard but
1603s there is a version where it uses a
1604s hammer throw
1606s to proc it that's really strong as well
1610s also personally uses javelin to proc it
1612s that's really strong
1618s hello when our server based character
1621s saves expected to be added that will
1622s happen at the same time multiplayer's
1624s opened up
1625s um
1627s so
1628s when it's ready uh because i don't have
1630s exact timeline on multiplayer but yeah
1631s that's as soon as multiplayer happens
1633s when you're playing multiplayer your
1634s save files will go online
1638s um
1638s but offline characters will still be
1640s offline and you'll still play them with
1642s local saves like you you won't you won't
1644s move your characters that you have on
1645s your computer on to our servers we're
1647s not going to do that
1650s accepting file uploads like that is uh
1657s dangerous misguided eyes there's a few
1660s words for it
1671s kind of related question what piece of
1674s cut content were you saddest to see go
1677s that hasn't been
1679s repurposed
1681s um
1696s like i have a couple answers but uh
1699s let's see the stuff that i know will get
1700s repurposed or
1703s uh just come back in general
1711s ah
1713s that ability should die when the uh
1716s when the
1717s when the enemy dies
1719s i don't know why didn't there a couple
1721s of them maybe like if it's
1723s starting while they die
1725s if they die while it's starting
1728s but there's a bug in there somewhere
1739s [Music]
1745s i don't know i uh cut content
1748s that i'm sad as to see go
1756s i mean there's a whole bunch of like
1757s ideas and things okay you know what i
1760s know what it is this is so
1762s so weird
1765s it is the
1766s uh switch weapons
1769s uh having having having like a secondary
1771s weapon
1772s uh to switch to
1773s that's what it is
1782s not happening
1800s like i get why we can't have it but oh i
1802s wish we could
1823s when mike doesn't even use smoke
1824s formerly quite yeah well i mean it's not
1826s that hard i use them when i need to
1828s remember uh
1829s was it last week or the week before i
1832s had to do the
1833s um i did the arena the arena champion
1836s and i got to rogue and i was
1838s probably under geared for it
1841s um
1842s i used i feel like i used them really
1843s well there to do that
1849s i sometimes also toss uh uh decoy really
1852s far away in like the opposite direction
1853s of where i'm fighting
1855s just as like uh
1857s like just toss over there and
1861s see what happens
1869s to whom must we pay 1000 usd to get a
1872s the meteor unique made is it you
1874s i know it isn't his chicane i will take
1877s up collection
1879s uh i mean
1887s there are certain
1889s members of the team that absolutely love
1892s meteor as a as a skill it's definitely
1895s their favorite skill
1896s um
1899s and let's just say they have quite a bit
1900s of pull
1902s in the company
1905s maybe the most pull of anyone in the
1907s company okay definitely it's judd he
1909s loves meteor um
1913s uh i i would be surprised if
1916s um
1918s we don't see any more awesome meteor
1920s uniques anytime soon type them i i don't
1923s know if it'll still be that exact one
1924s that that didn't get made but there were
1926s a lot of things there were there were a
1928s lot of community ideas
1930s in that
1931s in those polls that we really liked
1934s um
1935s and i can see some themes from some of
1938s those things being repurposed a little
1940s bit and tweaked and adjusted and maybe
1942s brought back in a slightly different
1943s form maybe it's not an item maybe it's a
1945s node maybe it's a set bonus maybe it's
1947s uh
1948s i don't know
1949s uh an idol maybe it's a
1951s [Music]
1952s blessing these are getting a little out
1954s there but you know what i mean i i'd be
1956s um
1958s i wouldn't be surprised to see something
1960s at least
1961s tangentially related
1975s we go through a lot of unique ideas
1978s like um
1980s anyone on the team who who who like
1983s wants to there's we we've got our own
1985s like discord for development
1987s and um
1989s frequently like we just got a channel
1991s for unique ideas and people just sort of
1993s toss ideas in there um and every once in
1995s a while um
1997s josoki or myself or kane or um
2001s rhymer
2003s uh
2005s justin any and there's a bunch of people
2006s that will uh
2008s sort of like go through there and pick
2009s out uh different
2012s um different ideas and
2014s we'll talk about them you know and um
2020s so we get we get a lot of ideas for
2022s unique items
2025s uh and they change a lot throughout the
2027s development process of getting any one
2029s of them made sometimes like one item
2031s will
2032s have just like one little
2033s theme from it get turned into another a
2035s whole different item
2044s weapon swap with teleport on the swap
2046s oops wrong game
2047s [Laughter]
2050s yeah get that get that teleport charges
2052s staff and away you go
2061s i always went for an amulet
2070s that budget hammered in
2074s enigma is the best and worst item in
2075s that game
2093s chests still don't work in multiplayer
2094s it's really funny like you open them and
2096s just nothing comes out
2097s and uh
2098s like we told all the cds this it's still
2101s uh like and they all knew they all open
2103s the chest and they go oh yeah right
2104s there's nothing in there
2105s um it's just that like you're so
2107s conditioned i do too so on multiplayer
2109s testing i'll open chest all the time you
2110s just you're so conditioned to open a
2113s chest
2114s um and like it glows and sparkles and
2115s you can click it everything still and so
2117s it's it's this like
2119s you're just so used to it you just click
2120s them even though you know nothing's
2122s coming out you still click it
2129s yeah i got my uh
2131s streets of new capana
2133s commander decks showed up
2137s picked up a pair of those
2145s hmm
2159s decent ones in there
2164s xp give me that sweet sweet xp
2175s the launcher staff is really cool yeah
2180s hold up did i just drift off did you
2182s explain why we can't have weapon swap or
2184s just say we couldn't have it why can't
2185s we have weapon swap i did not explain
2187s why we can't have weapon swap
2191s um
2194s i'll be honest this was uh uh
2196s we went through that process
2198s oh year and a half two years ago it's
2200s been it's been quite a while probably
2201s two years now
2202s um since we've talked about weapon swap
2205s and i do not remember all the details of
2207s that conversation well enough to explain
2209s it here confidently
2210s um
2215s but it is a design decision of why we
2216s don't have weapon swap
2222s there there was some
2224s networking stuff too but um
2240s i do remember ah i i don't remember the
2243s conversation well enough to go into all
2244s of it um
2246s part of it had to do with snapshot
2248s problems
2249s just making snapshotting even easier and
2251s um
2252s making it basically required um and then
2255s ending up with the burden of optimal
2256s play being too intense
2261s uh it was a big was that was that was
2263s part of it there was something else that
2264s was really major too i can't remember
2264s what it was
2266s it was a really good reason it was a
2267s really good reason i'm sorry i can't
2270s remember what it was
2271s um
2274s i was sad but i agreed with it
2277s um
2280s trying i'm sorry
2282s the
2283s we are working to to handle uh
2285s snapchatting stuff more as well so
2288s like
2289s i guess
2290s reasons can go away
2291s but um there was something else that was
2293s enough even without snapshotting
2301s because that that is something that's
2302s going to be gone
2306s eventually
2309s oh one more before i gotta go uh with
2311s the throwing tag for skills was there
2313s ever a consideration
2315s put towards thrown weapon types
2317s absolutely
2323s um we kind of wanted i guess throwing
2326s skills to be possible as um
2329s hybrid builds
2332s uh so where you could still
2336s you could still do something else with
2337s it now that the part of the big thing
2339s about throwing is you're not actually
2340s throwing
2341s your
2342s weapon
2343s itself you're throwing some
2345s like uh magical construct of a weapon or
2349s you know like it's it's
2351s it's not the literal you're throwing
2352s your weapon we try and work that in a
2353s little bit on some nodes like for
2355s example there's a shield throw node
2357s that buffs the throw a whole bunch but
2359s you can't block while it's thrown and so
2361s that's trying to sort of represent like
2363s you've thrown your shield so you can't
2365s block with it because you don't have it
2366s anymore right um and we try we try and
2370s work those things in a little bit
2371s but um
2375s for the most part you're not actually
2376s like throwing your weapon or throwing
2379s your shield you're throwing some like
2382s representation or mechanical or uh
2384s magical version of that weapon
2387s or shield
2393s the new death animation stuff that we
2395s teased it's so good it like oh the
2398s updates the combat feel are amazing and
2400s i i know i'm like saying these things
2401s and there's gonna be a big gap and it
2402s sucks but like
2404s it's it's it was one of those things
2406s where i didn't like when i we're first
2408s talking about everything i'm like i
2409s don't know if it's gonna have that big
2410s of an impact oh boy was i wrong
2420s i love being wrong about that stuff
2434s hey be the boy
2436s let's go
2444s yeah
2445s freeze that guy for me
2450s be the boy's pulling its weight
2453s uh heavy asks will multiplayer release
2456s inherent
2462s will multiplayer release inherent at
2465s least a first balance pass
2469s i think that's include will multiplayer
2471s release include at least the first
2472s balance pass and will balance be one of
2474s the major focuses after multiplayer is
2476s released yes um i think that there will
2479s be
2482s there's there's certain things so um
2484s here's a great example that's already
2485s happening there's certain things that we
2487s know are obviously going to be broken in
2489s multiplayer that like
2491s we we know
2492s we knew when we made them that it would
2494s be busted um
2496s in multiplayer uh
2499s we either have plans for fixing them
2500s already or
2502s our um
2504s oh got some beer
2506s don't see that every day
2509s who's shooting me go away i want to pick
2511s up my beer
2514s and
2514s um
2516s oh i used it dang it
2518s beer's just a potion anyways if in case
2520s anyone was wondering
2522s where's going with this oh yeah
2525s there's things we already know is gonna
2526s be broken overpowered and and so a
2528s really good example of this is you may
2530s have noticed that um
2532s healing hands does not have a skill tree
2534s still
2536s healing hands does not have a skill tree
2538s because we know that uh so many of the
2540s things we were originally planning on
2542s doing with healing hands would be really
2544s broken in multiplayer
2547s and so we wanted to be able to test it
2549s and get a feel for it as we were making
2551s that skill tree in a multiplayer
2553s environment to make sure it was
2555s fun and useful and not mandatory and you
2558s know all these things
2559s in um
2561s in in a multiple environment or first
2562s making so you have to remake it this is
2564s that like not doubling up on time spent
2567s issue again
2569s uh so yeah there's there's things that
2571s we've intentionally held off on specific
2574s for that and then other things that
2574s we're preparing for multiplayer so the
2576s the as i was talking about before the
2578s poison um
2580s problem
2581s where whereby
2582s if
2583s everyone in your group is running
2586s um
2588s a poison build all of the poison builds
2590s get stronger immediately and and having
2592s a five person or four person poison team
2596s is
2597s unbelievably strong
2600s um finding a way to make it not scale
2603s ridiculous like that but still have it
2607s uh scale somewhat and then
2610s uh
2612s still have it be fun in single player
2614s you know like like having that balance
2615s working we have a potential solution
2617s that i'm skirting around saying what
2618s that solution is because it's not in and
2620s tested yet i don't want to um
2623s uh
2626s like say what it is and promise
2627s something and not deliver on it type
2628s thing
2631s uh but yeah so we're working on that i
2633s just realized i'm probably over the
2634s number to get at this boss i'm just
2636s doing
2637s uh doing
2639s echoes for
2641s for fun at this point
2643s which is good because i do have fun with
2644s them
2645s um
2648s so yeah yeah there are things that have
2651s happened
2652s are happening and will happen around
2654s balance and multiplayer um
2656s with regards to that release and
2659s i'm sure there will be
2661s a large number of incredibly powerful
2663s synergies that everyone's gonna miss
2666s um
2669s by the time release happens and there
2670s will be some balance patches that happen
2672s pretty early on uh and and then that's
2674s and part of that uh the reason we do
2677s these slow rollouts for multiplayer is
2678s to catch things like that
2680s um
2681s i wouldn't be surprised if there were
2682s things found
2684s uh
2685s in in the first first half dozen tests
2688s that we had we didn't even consider you
2690s know
2693s so yeah
2695s uh
2696s we we will be tackling low hanging fruit
2698s first
2709s a little warm in there
2713s little warm in these rhinos
2720s name that movie there's another quote
2721s from it
2730s the rubber face comic himself
2733s the one the only the canadian
2740s agent gary
2752s all right
2754s another question here have you played
2756s sanctuary for asks have you ever played
2759s have you played any of the first season
2760s of d2r been having a blast in it myself
2763s found some gg items a 2018 sarktorch for
2768s example
2774s shivers goosebumps all over
2777s um no i i've played a tiny tiny tiny
2780s tiny little bit of it um
2785s like leveled one character a merc uh i
2788s was trying to act five mercs out and um
2792s i can't remember the name of the new
2793s room right now the new like leveling
2795s rune word for mercs
2796s um
2798s got one of those but i haven't really
2800s played much of it now
2804s that was i played a weekend
2806s you know
2813s which is enough to
2815s like
2818s let's get to get get to um
2821s like farming end game stuff
2837s what commander okay um
2840s the first one the one that i actually
2842s finished the deck for is
2846s pulverizer can remember his name
2859s uh perry the pulverizer
2863s uh he's a three three four four when he
2864s enters the battlefield put a shield
2866s counter on target creature you control
2869s whenever he attacks
2871s tiger creature you control gets plus x
2872s plus x and gains trample until in a turn
2875s where x is the number of different
2878s counters
2879s on permanence you control
2883s and i was trying to figure out where the
2885s line was on that's exactly what i
2886s thought it was originally but i was um
2889s i'm like does like
2891s um
2892s suspend does that count like
2894s the time counters on suspended objects
2896s in excel now because you don't control
2898s exiled permanence so it doesn't work
2903s uh which i expected and then like energy
2905s counters
2906s which uh they're on you
2909s they're not on uh permits like
2911s experience counters they're on you not
2913s the permanents that don't count
2916s but like i was just going through the
2918s cards i had i'm like okay i'm gonna pull
2920s one of every
2923s card with a unique counter type that i
2925s can find and there's some weird counter
2928s types out there that i uh
2930s put the azoreous uh
2933s something in the filibuster counters
2936s uh
2938s so that's gonna be the goal is to is to
2940s win with filibuster counters with almost
2943s no proliferate in the deck uh as a bit
2945s of a meme
2950s while punching people in the face with a
2951s big boy commander
2960s and then also the grixes one which i'm
2962s going to be
2964s um
2965s doing vampire tribal with
2979s this thing's gonna be off i haven't done
2980s vampire trouble before
2981s um i haven't built a grix's deck in
2984s forever i don't remember the last one i
2986s built
2987s but it's a lot of fun there's a lot of
2989s good stuff in there
2994s shock someone's just doing echoes for
2995s fun the horrors
2998s century a very good
3000s master sword 10 points to gryffindor
3003s uh forgive me if you've already answered
3004s this will multiplayer have party trading
3006s at the start or is that to be added at a
3009s later time um i don't know what order
3012s any sort of trading systems will be
3014s implemented in regards to the uh when
3017s the multiplayer opens up to a larger
3019s group um there is not currently any way
3022s to trade items in multiplayer uh there's
3024s no system like that uh set up at the
3026s moment so
3028s uh
3029s maybe
3031s the i5 merc is fire with three piece
3034s sazi set really
3039s i haven't read that word in a long time
3041s and not how i thought it was felt
3045s i just called sabbies
3049s in my mind it's savvy set
3054s interesting i would not have thought
3055s is that because you can up the sets now
3057s that they're really good
3076s ring
3077s ring ring ring ring the same old crap
3080s same old crap
3098s i probably should not be just like
3100s running through all the giant aoes
3103s and running towards more enemies this
3106s seems like a mistake
3108s but you'd be right
3137s it was tense
3142s uh sorry i didn't check in i don't check
3144s in freaking with the game is there
3146s progress for multiplayer this year or
3149s will it come the next uh there was
3151s actually very recently a very large post
3153s that went out um so no worries about
3155s missing that uh but you can check that
3157s out on our forums if someone wants to
3159s link that that would be awesome for them
3161s uh lots of info in there basically um
3164s multiplayer is looking like it's going
3166s to happen this year
3167s uh
3168s we've had our first test on tuesday
3172s which um like last this like uh
3175s three days ago four days ago whatever it
3176s is um
3179s where people who don't work at ehg got
3181s to play multiplayer for the first time
3183s um went fantastic
3185s really happy really excited um
3192s and uh yeah stuff's going great
3194s i don't know what else to say
3207s uh for this favor system that is an
3209s alternate meta progression system
3211s uh yep
3214s okay
3215s i i will just just want to note on that
3217s um
3218s it's still in the con concept phase so
3221s uh
3223s a lot could change between now and then
3225s now and now in release so anything i say
3227s is very speculative on it
3232s uh
3233s will it start being utilized for
3234s characters before the 100 that's the
3236s plan right now
3237s yes
3243s it's not like once you've hit level 100
3244s you get to do it
3246s like the i guess the the easier to
3248s answer that question and uh this might
3250s not be obvious but um
3254s we we don't plan for most characters to
3256s hit level 100
3258s and if there's any sort of major
3259s progression system
3261s uh we expect every character to to have
3264s easy access to it
3266s and if most characters aren't hitting
3268s 100 and the progression system started
3271s after 100
3272s most characters wouldn't have access to
3274s it
3277s so don't want that so not doing that
3292s wrong thing
3294s should i get this shouldn't i
3299s want to go fast
3304s rolling around at the speed of sound
3311s sonic adventure 2 battles on gamecube
3314s was
3315s one of my favorite game is one of my
3317s favorite games
3318s so good
3319s that opening sequence like dropping out
3321s of a helicopter i don't know what i was
3323s like
3327s let's guess 15 14 somewhere in there and
3330s like
3333s um i should figure one that came out but
3336s like i remember riding home in the car
3338s with
3339s with the game and like you know like
3341s you're you're riding home in the car
3343s your mom's driving you like open up the
3344s case and you're like going through the
3346s manual that's in the case checking out
3348s everything and
3349s oh oh that was a great game
3352s i'm just i i keep forgetting to check
3354s if there's more
3356s uh if i finish this monologue or not
3359s you know i'm just gonna teleport out
3361s and check i don't care
3372s keep going just right click on those now
3379s i got uh an urbrask the new brass is a
3383s really nice it's like
3385s so it's card advantage and like
3388s and stacksy at the same time but it's
3390s not like oppressive it's just like you
3392s have to play like a red deck
3394s go
3395s and i love that where it's it's like
3397s it's
3399s it's got all the things i love in it i
3401s love the new rest it's great
3405s uh it's one of my in one of your set
3407s packs yeah
3409s i literally can't read what's on the
3410s card yeah because it's in um
3413s forex you've got the forexian altar
3414s version so here's what it says it says
3416s um at the beginning of your upkeep
3419s uh
3421s uh exile the top card of your library
3423s you may play that card this turn
3426s um
3427s at the beginning
3428s all right each opponent's uh can't have
3430s this wrong each one skips their draw
3431s step and exiles the top card of their
3433s library at the beginning of their review
3435s they didn't say ever basically everyone
3437s impulses one card every turn and your
3439s opponents don't get to draw as well
3441s but they still get to
3443s play that top part of their library
3444s because they impulse instead just have
3445s to play at that turn
3457s that's that's really cool this this item
3459s is really interesting i remember making
3460s it i really like this item it's one of
3463s my favorite items in the game which i
3464s know is weird but um
3467s yeah
3468s i really like it
3473s it was almost a pair of gloves
3481s of despair
3487s uh plus life bonus to frenzy act 5 merc
3490s makes them virtually unkillable yeah it
3491s destroys almost anything in hell as they
3493s can dual wield yeah dual wield uh like
3497s that's the big thing about um act 2
3499s marks is
3501s it's the really powerful
3502s auras that you can get are on weapons
3506s action marks can only wield one weapon
3508s but at the same time they get
3510s uh they get an aura built in so you get
3512s one aura for free just for being an
3513s acting merc and then um you could you
3516s can get two you get one more for having
3518s a weapon so you can get two auras
3520s there's other ways to get them too but
3521s that's the main two ways that most
3522s people get them but then act five marks
3524s yeah you can dual wield so you can get
3525s two of the weapon
3527s auras which are generally actually
3528s stronger than the built-in ones and um
3532s it was
3533s that was
3534s it was it was a really
3537s elegant solution to the problem of
3539s only act 2 merck survival
3542s i think that's one of the biggest things
3544s that dlv2 suffers from after
3546s being played without updates for
3549s decades literally um
3552s is is it's kind of solved like
3555s um
3557s i can like
3559s pick any character
3560s archetype and i can probably tell you
3562s what your stat distribution is in like
3564s in your ideal stat distribution
3566s and um
3569s it's almost exactly the same for every
3571s single character right
3574s enough strength to wear your gear um
3577s possibly enough decks for max block or
3579s not
3580s and the rest in vitality like that's
3582s every single one of them oh 2lp slab
3584s that's nice
3585s and and and um
3587s oh my god
3590s come with me my beetle army of the dead
3594s um
3598s it was a countess reference by the way
3602s blood raven sorry
3606s uh anyways um
3610s what am i trying to say here and and and
3612s now they've got this
3613s uh
3615s almost in one way that sucks now they've
3617s got
3618s two mercenaries that are viable which is
3620s just awesome
3623s um
3624s i know a lot of the
3627s like path of diablo gave uh the insight
3630s meditation aura to the act three
3631s mercenaries which i thought was really
3633s smart um
3635s i'd love to see something something done
3637s to make the the other other mercenaries
3639s a little bit more i think they did some
3641s stuff to most of them as well they're
3642s better but they're not good enough yet
3645s and it's gonna be really hard because
3646s it's such an optimized game to ever get
3648s all of the mercenaries to be in a really
3649s good spot
3651s um
3653s but i think that they were
3656s i thought it was really well done what
3657s they've got so far
3661s was impressed
3664s vicarious visions knows what they're
3666s doing
3677s that's right you
3678s ice goliath bleed out on me
3689s all right why not just make uh easy to
3692s hit 100 and then have an exp accrue in a
3694s system of infinite levels allowing for
3696s endless stat progression called avatar
3698s levels or something
3700s uh i can't generally like
3702s so i i know you are very
3705s random named x i know you're very well
3707s versed in arpg's and i can't tell if
3709s you're joking or not
3712s um
3716s but just in case you are not joking
3720s um
3721s i i would suggest that we've seen this
3723s system already and seen the strengths
3725s and weaknesses of the system
3727s in uh
3729s in diablo 3
3732s because what you basically described is
3734s the peregrine system just just in case
3736s you're you're not joking
3737s since my original idea
3742s oh
3743s i can't tell
3748s well for anyone else who doesn't know
3750s this just in case the mo3 had that
3752s system exactly it's called paragon
3754s levels instead
3757s and it contributes to this idea that the
3759s game doesn't start until max level
3762s which
3763s i'm personally not a big fan of
3765s in an arpg system like this
3775s because i believe that it takes away
3776s from the value of
3778s the entire leveling process
3782s and it turns the leveling process into
3784s uh
3785s how fast can i finish leveling so i can
3787s start playing
3789s um and that type of mentality is
3792s unfortunate
3793s but um
3795s very natural when presented with a
3797s system like that
3811s i don't know what i'm doing here
3824s just like shoot things through it
3829s stand as close to it's like the widest
3830s arc that i can shoot through
3844s paragons could be okay if cats on a per
3846s character basis i guess there's a lot of
3848s things uh that people have explored
3850s there's a lot of really good videos on
3852s the internet about people on youtube
3853s especially about people
3855s exploring
3856s ways to improve upon and expand
3859s the
3861s paragon system
3865s and if anyone's interested in talking
3867s about that i would really suggest going
3868s to read that
3870s oh listen to that watch that
3872s because uh smarter folks than i have
3876s presented cases about that much more
3879s eloquently than i would as well
3891s if i done the wrong one tonight but i
3892s want this totally intentional
3903s bullying in chat with some odds
3910s i know i'm just the worst i'm sorry
3913s i have no self-control
3925s where are we going where are we going
3927s what are we doing who are we seeing
3931s not that way
3935s marvel heroes online
3936s tried an improved paragon system before
3939s being shut down
3940s marvel heroes online is a game that i
3943s regret not playing more so much
3946s um
3948s i wish i wish i had i'd played more of
3950s it
3955s because yeah there's a lot of really
3957s good things that they did
3959s like really awesome things
3961s and and
3963s yeah
3965s too soon
3967s the flame that burns the brightest burns
3968s the shortest something something
3970s something
3983s not happening
3991s easy too easy
4023s marvel heroes is by far my most played
4026s video game ever wow
4028s i don't regret a single minute that's
4030s cool
4033s i regret not paying playing it enough
4040s who evie who was your favorite
4043s hero
4048s that's something i'd be interested in if
4049s you had to pick one
4068s see ya
4076s thoughts on blood for the blood god i
4078s mean it's 11 mana you gotta discard your
4081s whole hand that's a pretty steep cost
4083s seems balanced to me
4089s no i a three mana draw eight cards deal
4092s eight damage to everyone at the table
4095s oh my god what
4099s i it's it's immediately going in every
4101s single deck i have that can fit
4104s immediately
4108s i i'm also split on the universe's
4111s beyond stuff with the triangle holo
4112s stamp at the bottom
4116s i still don't have any of them in any of
4118s my decks and i'm like still kind of like
4120s am i going to oh my goodness
4126s so i don't i don't i still don't know if
4127s i'm going to play it or not um just
4129s because it's in universes beyond
4144s and it feels it feels like one of those
4145s cards that that someone like um
4149s like one with nothing or people just
4150s like didn't understand why it could be
4152s good or it was not designed with
4154s multiplayer mind or like
4157s you know there's just
4159s there's some disconnect in the design
4160s that i think it's
4164s it's one of those cards where the floor
4166s is pretty low
4168s um
4169s like
4170s there's no creatures on the board you've
4172s got a full grip everyone else is out of
4173s cards
4174s um
4177s and you're playing an infect deck like
4179s there's the floor of it
4180s um
4181s but like all those things are
4183s controllable
4184s really
4189s behold the rage of winter this is a
4193s mercy
4195s shatter
4200s do not stand in my way
4208s this is a mercy
4212s shutter
4216s not stand in my way
4219s rise my fallen champions
4222s aid me
4227s [Music]
4230s this is a mercy
4232s yeah shoot that decoy
4237s i spent a long time
4239s uh
4242s uh working with working with our uh
4245s boss design boss encounter design
4249s uh lead on on this like making the
4250s mechanics work for it so like it's one
4252s of those boss fights that i've i've only
4254s done it like
4257s i don't know like a dozen times or
4258s something but i feel like i know it
4260s incredibly well because
4262s um i spent so long working on it
4278s this is a mercy
4281s shutter
4283s do not stand in my way
4288s oh that's the wrong way
4297s when you move your hands slightly on the
4298s keyboard
4312s this is a mercy
4315s shatter
4317s do not stand in my way
4329s this is a mercy
4332s shutter
4334s do not stand in my way
4338s not happening oh
4340s no
4352s yeah there we go
4354s get got
4357s two temples keys
4360s my my i do declare
4362s fizz res
4365s should fizz rose on hit that's really
4367s nice
4369s ah that is really nice
4383s i feel like i kind of have to take that
4384s my fizz was i think is terrible oh no
4386s it's great
4393s this is a really interesting unique
4395s actually
4396s i talked about a little bit on the uh
4398s unique design stream with
4400s um
4402s aaron
4403s uh action rpg and uh and and what it
4405s does for warcry because it it basically
4408s is one of the warcray nodes but you want
4410s the nodes behind it when you have the
4411s helmet so
4413s um
4414s it kind of has like the sort of like
4415s inherent negative one to warcry built
4417s into it because of that because you're
4419s sort of wasting a point in the tree
4421s um so it got an extra plus one to skills
4424s it worked plus one to work right when we
4427s finally realized that some someone
4428s pointed that out to us
4430s remember who it was
4431s good feedback from someone you probably
4433s know who you are
4437s uh juggernaut elbow dropping madness i
4440s love the idea of movement skill builds
4442s in ah okay
4446s second and third kitty pirate and
4447s scarlet
4451s not gonna correct myself
4454s scarlet witch
4460s okay let's go do it let's go to a
4462s dungeon yeah
4464s let's do uh let's do a temporal sanctum
4466s because we've got it we've got it here
4469s why not right right
4473s oh do we have a legendary to make that's
4476s why not
4486s uh
4487s is it not worth it to be able uh to
4490s scream blood for the blood cut over and
4492s over again so i i've i've never played
4495s 40k so i don't have any
4498s like
4500s um
4502s like allegiance to the to the ip or
4503s anything like that or
4505s or like
4506s so yeah a lot of the um
4509s story elements the thing that got me a
4511s lot is that they're using this uh
4513s they're adding a new creature type to
4515s magic
4516s with
4517s uh with this update i couldn't believe
4518s it
4520s um they're actually adding in
4522s creature types of of characters that are
4524s in 40k that are not in the magic
4525s universe anywhere
4526s um so it's actually changing the lore of
4530s magic
4531s um by incorporating 40k so now 40k
4535s and magic actually exist in the same
4537s universe question mark
4540s somehow
4541s i don't know i
4547s my favorite part about magic is is
4549s getting together and playing with
4550s friends and having fun and everything
4551s and you can still do that it doesn't
4552s matter and like i know a lot of people
4553s have different
4555s uh ips that they love and getting that
4557s all incorporated together is really cool
4558s seeing those crossovers
4560s there's some small part of me deep
4563s inside that's just like but that's not
4565s magic
4568s i don't know it's like something i've
4569s got to get over
4572s you know
4575s i think we could clean up our idols and
4577s get huge boost of power but right now
4581s i'm gonna see if we've got any nice
4584s legendary potential
4586s uh items to make
4594s me
4597s no no
4599s anything down here
4600s [Music]
4602s i mean yeah
4605s yeah i mean yeah
4609s is that worth doing
4612s we'll lose a bunch of health
4615s uh we get some skill points more bleed
4618s more movements which is nice
4622s if i could grab
4630s what's the hockey dump items just shift
4632s like right click yeah shift right click
4634s um
4635s right click will equip it
4637s um shift right click will move whatever
4640s item from um cross pane
4643s so
4644s my control key just came off my keyboard
4651s oh no
4652s come on i need a new control key uh so
4656s if you've got any any two panes
4658s uh shift right click will move it
4660s between those two
4661s it doesn't matter what it is if you have
4663s left right pain um shops stashes
4666s anything that's left right shift right
4667s click flips between them
4675s smear yourself with tomato ketchup or
4677s red food coloring
4678s wow
4680s uh just like how you designed the
4681s abomination fight but forgot the key
4682s mechanic of the fight well maybe
4685s yes
4687s i guess
4691s you're gonna that happened that happened
4692s recently didn't it i was just like
4694s i've got this
4699s uh
4700s yeah you know what let's do we have a
4702s unique belt or a an exalted belt with
4705s increased health on it that i can take
4706s in here to do this yes we do
4712s okay let's real quick
4715s we're gonna search belts
4718s oh my god there's so many belts
4728s we're just gonna hammer through this
4730s the higher one no
4733s there's gonna be like some huge lp belt
4735s in here somewhere i'm just gonna be like
4739s [Music]
4745s why is this actually the search oh cause
4747s it can be on belts wow
4750s search deep
4761s this is why we need a little bit more
4762s information in our search like some mild
4766s um
4767s regex type type commands that can go in
4770s here
4771s or rig x if you're a crazy person
4778s oh there's another good one
4788s that's less testing
4791s the paper tell
4793s okay
4794s uh so either one of those can turn into
4800s yeah i need a temple sanctum key done
4809s level 80 what am i 81
4813s appropriately leveled
4817s uh when will the results of the first
4820s multiplayer ct test be posted um i
4824s i
4825s i i don't know i think it's the first
4826s answer i don't know if we will do like
4829s uh
4830s it lasted for this many minutes and it
4832s lasted for this many hours and it our um
4835s we had this many bugs or anything like
4837s that you know um
4841s i'm really not sure
4850s uh
4852s i feel like we should do something right
4855s it's it's hard though because there's a
4856s lot of
4857s a lot of the stuff that we
4860s were looking for that we were trying to
4862s monitor and were um
4864s like the like the reason we were doing
4866s it basically um is really boring and not
4869s exciting and
4871s uh
4872s mostly will just sound like stuff
4874s happened we learned things
4877s you know like
4878s um
4881s kind of the biggest thing is it went i
4883s like anecdotal stuff were like it went
4885s really well
4887s um
4890s i found myself talking
4892s to people more about here's here's
4894s something that that's fairly indicative
4895s of how it went i think
4897s um
4898s i found myself talking to people on the
4901s ct
4902s team
4903s more about
4905s design like game design
4907s uh things
4908s than
4910s i did about
4912s uh multiplayer functionality things
4915s like like the the hot topic of
4916s discussion was not multiplayer
4920s um
4922s because there wasn't really much to talk
4923s about because it was just kind of
4924s working you know um
4934s yeah
4935s there wasn't a big like oh my god this
4937s is terrible because of that it was just
4939s like well
4940s it works so
4942s that's it
4944s yeah
4945s phase shift through that door
4954s i do not know how to set that trick up
4956s properly or why it works or how to fix
4958s it but every once in a while i can pull
4961s it off
4994s all right uh i attacked with godzilla
4997s you blocked with the guy from the
4999s walking dead a space marine
5002s and vince from baldur's gate what about
5004s that isn't magic the gathering to you i
5006s guess we've gathered together everyone
5011s no like there's there's a lot of really
5013s awesome stuff and a lot of the mechanics
5014s that are showing up are so cool and like
5017s the design is ultra thematic there was
5019s um
5021s there's the the street fighter cards
5023s were so well done
5026s um but i still don't think i'd ever put
5028s a street fighter card in my deck
5030s you know like i had a ton of fun playing
5032s street fighter when i was a kid um i
5034s haven't played in years but like so i
5036s don't have a huge connection to the
5037s franchise but i don't know what it is
5039s about it i just yeah
5042s i don't know
5049s i i don't think it's going anywhere
5051s so i think we like we're gonna have to
5054s get used to it and come to terms with it
5056s uh
5057s regardless
5060s so the best thing we can do is have fun
5070s i am happy that for the most part the
5071s ones that are really far out of
5074s um
5075s like really far outside of the world so
5078s like the walking dead and
5080s uh stranger things um you know like they
5083s have uh they have in-law magic
5086s equivalencies and street fighter there's
5087s an indoor magic equivalency of that and
5089s like i i think that's really important
5091s and needs to be there for for
5092s specifically those those ones that are
5094s really far outside but 40k i think needs
5095s it too but i don't think it's going to
5096s get it i'm a little bit if that one's on
5099s the on the edge for me
5103s but things things like the dnd set so
5105s the dnd set is it's technically the same
5107s thing right like it's a different
5108s franchise but the
5110s the overall theming in the general
5112s setting is so similar that it feels like
5115s it could just be another magic plane
5117s right um and it like i would actually
5119s show so i have a ton of um dnd cards in
5122s in my decks i've a whole deck that's a
5125s venture into the dungeon deck
5126s um i love it but i guess just because it
5129s feels like it could be magic to me like
5133s um
5134s warhammer fantasy i think would fit
5135s really well
5140s see i guess that's the line for me
5144s it's gotta feel
5145s closer to the magic theming
5153s but really magic can be anything because
5155s you just go to a new plane you know
5164s my favorite part about playing magic is
5166s hanging with my friends
5184s yeah i'm sure the second ctmp test will
5186s be more uh will be better and more
5187s interesting
5193s i misremember the wording of the dev
5195s blog you released you said quote after
5197s the first series of tests with our
5199s community testers we'll be posting
5201s another update talking about how the
5202s test went okay yes we'll be doing that
5205s which means after multiple tests this is
5207s not this first one in particular my bad
5209s sorry yeah like um
5212s i i'm not sure when that'll happen or
5215s how many tests that means
5217s you're right the wording is a little
5218s ambiguous and it's probably intentional
5220s so we're not like
5222s because i i think i think we we all
5225s hoped and had um
5228s and sort of like
5231s knew how we
5232s uh
5233s thought the multiple tests was gonna go
5235s oh two in a row
5237s um but no one really was expecting
5239s anything in particular and we didn't
5241s want to um
5245s it's it's it's really short-term goals
5247s so we're we're only looking
5249s you know like it's nascar just like just
5250s around the next corner or whatever or
5252s anything my dad's gonna be completely
5253s wrong that's how i look at it um
5257s where you're not really looking super
5258s far ahead it's just
5260s like the next the next step really and
5263s we do look pretty far ahead but we can't
5265s really we can't make expectations i get
5267s it i guess there is the better way to
5269s put it
5272s oh boy
5275s because we can't say like okay we're
5276s gonna do
5277s these
5278s uh we're gonna release this at this time
5279s and this is another time we know it's
5281s gonna go this well because
5283s it could be a huge problem that just
5284s derails everything
5292s something something the best laid plans
5294s of mason men
5295s finally i will have its power
5301s okay bye
5305s yeah let's go
5308s let's go
5311s can you post can can you post a
5314s highlight reel of the ct's
5316s dying set to the tune of betty hill
5319s [Laughter]
5321s oh well i don't i don't think we have uh
5324s ah like a bunch of video footage
5326s everyone dying i don't know if there was
5327s many deaths really
5332s there were definitely some there was
5334s some someone died a whole bunch
5340s uh what what do you think about lord of
5342s the rings imagine the gathering then i
5344s think yeah like it's it's real close i
5346s think i'd be able to accept it a little
5348s bit easier
5349s um
5354s it would fit great
5357s i don't know i still wouldn't
5359s if if it was if it was entirely up to me
5361s and magic was only being made for me in
5363s the most selfish way possible
5366s um
5367s we would not include lord of the rings
5369s in magic even though lord of the rings
5370s is one of my favorite franchises of all
5372s time
5388s i demand to know when i can start
5389s shuffling up withdrawal shade of orvis
5392s uh anatera dual deck herod versus raya
5396s do they do dual decks anymore
5399s i would love this so like so i say this
5401s whole thing about like not wanting to
5402s have these other franchises and
5403s everything and um
5405s around the time season three of game of
5407s thrones the tv show came out
5409s um i made
5411s a
5413s um game of thrones themed draft set so
5415s it's it's based on seasons one and two
5417s and i plan to do
5418s uh seasons three and four another set
5420s and then finish out to seven with uh a
5422s final set
5424s i and i fell off i was started working
5426s on epoch so i couldn't uh couldn't
5428s finish it properly but i finished the
5430s first set i actually have one sec
5445s i actually have
5447s a
5450s ready to go
5451s it's probably horrible now but like
5453s little packs of
5455s like cards in three booster pack
5459s bundles
5460s for drafting ready to go of a fully
5463s game of thrones themed set
5466s you know
5469s and
5471s um
5473s like my friends and i drafted a couple
5475s times i made i made sam way too strong
5478s by mistake
5482s uh
5484s so there's a few balance issues there
5485s but like i had a ton of fun with that
5488s and everything and i feel like that sort
5489s of thing kind of belongs in fan projects
5491s and not official products i don't know
5494s i i'm so torn on it i have no idea what
5496s the right thing is
5498s how do you make sam overpowered he was a
5501s uh
5502s a two mana
5503s zero to
5505s the taps to scribe for two i think is
5507s what it was i could be wrong exactly
5509s what it was
5510s but um
5511s that's like it was just that like really
5513s easy access to scry2 and draft and he
5516s was common or un he was uncommon so like
5518s one of my friends ended up with three of
5520s them in his deck and he was just like
5523s digging through his deck for all the
5524s best cards so efficiently
5532s come on girl
5558s escape is impossible
5566s not happening
5584s escape is impossible
5601s that's fine
5606s oh come on
5626s oh
5631s i created a new mechanic for that set
5633s which i realized was ill-conceived now
5636s um
5637s whereby you could basically bribe
5640s any cell sword to like fight for you if
5642s you had the mana
5643s so it was like
5645s um
5646s just like creatures that sit on the
5648s board and you could like anyone could
5649s just like pay the mana and just like pay
5650s for them to come over to your sides
5651s they're like really good and cheap but
5653s they just be taken away from you
5654s someone's willing to pay more and every
5656s time someone pays the price goes up
5675s oh
5678s i just like didn't see my health plummet
5680s there oh it's so close to dying
5683s right at the finish line that was scary
5692s that's a cool helmet i don't really want
5694s it
5694s pick it up
5699s icdr
5703s yeah
5706s let's go make our belt
5710s let's go make all right uh here we go
5714s oops grip there there
5716s right this one doesn't work because
5717s there's two slots there's no which one
5718s to find okay first wait what am i doing
5720s first we're going to try and get these
5722s up to as good as we can get so which
5724s one's the best one
5726s to work off of
5733s um
5736s business because it's got the highest
5738s health stat
5741s um and then we want to reroll this
5748s crit avoidance is really nice though
5750s actually
5751s uh elemental narration cold damage no
5754s necron damage knows about that
5756s that's too bad
5758s physical damage would be okay
5762s fortune control is gone
5764s okay should have upgraded the other
5765s stuff that's okay
5769s my uh image is on the wrong side
5774s we're gonna come back and uh do this
5776s properly now you know a big deal
5779s we're just gonna
5780s bump the endurance real quick
5788s yeah
5790s yeah
5795s okay
5797s i think we're just going to roll for the
5798s bigger health
5801s those are the increased physical damage
5802s the crit strike avoidances are both nice
5804s stats
5810s let's go
5820s i'm late what did i miss you know what
5822s aaron i haven't done anything
5825s i haven't done anything at all
5829s oh i'll put something up here i've got
5830s i've got a legendary in the cache right
5832s now
5833s um we don't know what it is
5837s sitting there
5849s here is a little tease of a new piece of
5851s gear
5853s oh ah
5855s that's pretty cool
5859s oops oh no i didn't show it
5861s there we go
5865s so there's that
5868s which i like
5873s oh yes the good old point blank mm issue
5876s yeah
5885s a lag on staff oh yeah
5888s okay
5889s see what we got
5893s these not what i wanted but good
5898s we do we lose a bunch of health how much
5899s health do we lose that's like 280 health
5902s 282 health
5904s it's a fair bit
5908s but i think the other stats are worth it
5917s can i shoot i-beams that item i don't
5918s think so
5920s be cool though wouldn't it
5926s all right we got two legendaries on our
5928s gear on our character now yeah
5934s i guess the increased throwing attack
5936s speed this does actually increase the
5937s rate that we toss out decoy which is
5939s nice
5941s so there's something
5948s what do we want to do
5950s which time you got what time is it oh
5952s you know what let's go
5956s let's just go start a monolith
5958s just start a model let's roll through it
5961s why not right we've got two more to
5963s finish before we get to oh one more
5965s finish we're almost unempowered i have
5967s not gotten too empowered
5970s monoliths on any character on stream yet
5972s because i always switch too soon i'm
5974s really enjoying this marksman
5982s yes aaron that is a staff
5985s it's a lovely staff
5997s okay and so ruin your fun there
6001s all right where's my experience nodes
6003s this way here we go
6005s onward onto the abyss
6017s i think something really interesting
6019s that i've been uh hearing as a general
6021s sentiment from people recently is
6022s like wanting more stuff to do in a lot
6025s of these situations
6027s in epoch
6029s um
6031s i think last week i may have
6033s um
6037s not really address the concern very well
6041s um so i apologize for that first off
6043s and and i think a more um
6047s appropriate or genuine way of of talking
6050s about those concerns which are
6051s completely valid first off is is is more
6054s that um
6058s like just just yeah we're gonna keep
6060s adding new stuff and yeah we know there
6061s needs to be more stuff and and
6063s like
6064s there's i think a general lack of
6067s 82
6069s available things to do like the in the
6071s monolith we'd love there to be more
6073s little things more activities to to to
6075s take on and do as you're going through
6076s the monolith um
6079s and i think for people like a lot of you
6080s who are here who played a long time
6083s um
6084s i think
6086s probably feel this a lot more than um
6089s maybe new players or people haven't
6091s played in a while things like that and
6093s that's not to say it's it's not valid or
6094s anything like that we
6096s definitely need that we are
6098s right now really focusing on getting to
6100s that 1.0 mark
6102s um and a lot of these things where we're
6103s like hey we need more of this we need
6104s more we need more dungeons we need more
6106s things to do in the dungeons we need
6107s more engaging dungeons we need more uh
6110s we need more things to do in the model
6111s if we need more engaging monoliths you
6113s know all these things like that is
6116s um it's all problems that we're working
6118s and all problems that we are
6120s trying to add things to slowly and and
6122s build up and build the quality up on all
6123s these things and and they'll they'll
6124s definitely be improved and be changed
6126s and get added onto and all these sorts
6128s of things
6129s um
6130s prioritizing what order all that happens
6133s in is really the hard part
6134s and um
6137s right now i think our priority really is
6139s on
6140s um
6141s getting a version of last epoch out that
6144s we can say this is a complete game
6146s um
6148s that has room for improvement
6151s and has room for expansion and has room
6153s for new and interesting evolutions
6158s but having that like here is a full
6160s complete game because it's i think lasky
6161s [ __ ] amazing right now but i don't
6163s think it's quite a full complete game
6167s that's why we haven't released yet
6174s i just wanted to take a second
6177s mention that hopefully hopefully that
6178s makes people happy
6185s so new in-game lightning staff dropped
6187s by legon
6189s i don't wanna i don't wanna
6192s talk anything about that item
6194s if i'm being honest
6195s i saw it for the first time today myself
6215s i've been told there is a message taking
6217s off in the last epoch discord under
6219s suggestions i'd like to see can you
6220s confirm
6223s no because i
6225s uh haven't seen that actually
6229s sweet i haven't haven't checked the
6230s suggestions thread in
6233s uh almost two days now which is really
6235s long for me usually i check it multiple
6237s times a day
6249s i'm sorry i don't know what it says i
6251s guess i could look really quick couldn't
6252s i
6259s oh my goodness
6269s lauren the set oh it's it's something
6270s that i said that's being quoted
6274s but
6279s uh up it looks like it's highlighting
6282s about how it uses way more cpu than gpu
6287s that might be what you're talking about
6289s it was yesterday
6297s oh there's a lot of reading there
6303s ugh
6327s i i don't have to read all this right
6328s now okay
6329s i'll go look out later
6337s and so i'm not just running around in
6338s circles out of the corner of my eye
6341s to not die
6348s uh our concepts already underway post
6350s 1.0 for in-game content oh yeah terms uh
6354s in terms of entirely new systems the
6355s core is fine right now in terms of the
6357s foundation yeah there's
6359s um
6361s there's all sorts of end game systems
6362s that we've
6363s uh
6364s talked about or like um
6367s put design time into and been like okay
6369s we'd love to do something like this or
6370s we'd love to do something themed around
6371s this or um you know something to to to
6374s get people um doing this type of
6376s activity and um open up like this other
6380s type of scaling or something like that
6381s or um
6383s you know you know there's there's all
6384s sorts of things that uh
6387s we've got ideas that we want to do and
6388s there's some that are definitely like
6391s more
6393s uh in the like
6396s higher priority category than others
6399s but if there's one thing we're not short
6401s on its ideas
6409s that's something we're not sure about is
6410s good ideas there's a lot of really good
6412s ideas the heart the hardest part is
6415s picking the best ideas
6421s did i walk right past it i did
6438s that's all right mike stand right beside
6440s your decoy that'll be a good idea
6444s they won't be able to tell which one's
6446s which
6447s so smart
6461s uh that's the last message you described
6462s under suggestions and like to see
6464s uh you'll know when you see it wink
6467s oh mcfluffins like
6469s this there's some like uh some there's
6471s some texture that's missing from his
6473s game files or something
6475s or not rendering properly
6488s oh that's volcanic orb and pictures of
6491s rats
6492s ah
6493s okay
6494s [Applause]
6495s i'm with you
6497s i understand what's going on it took me
6499s quite a while to figure it out because
6501s i'm real slow
6507s yep
6510s i think uh it would be irresponsible
6514s to do that
6524s i'm sure there will be some meme options
6527s for
6528s cosmetics that appear at some point
6552s too busy creating an awesome golem item
6554s yeah i actually finished that this
6554s morning
6557s i actually finished that this morning
6561s i had a there was one little bug where
6563s you could still summon skeleton warriors
6565s you someone one warrior all the time no
6566s matter what i'm just like this one won't
6569s go away
6574s he just wouldn't leave me alone
6579s be my friend
6586s oh i'm not merged into the main branch
6587s so it still has all the old stuff in it
6589s too
6592s i'm gonna make a pr for it as soon as
6594s we're done streaming
6604s llama decoy
6606s yeah stuff like that
6609s that'd be great
6613s are there plans for aspirational content
6615s yes
6616s uh like ubers and d2 or half the bosses
6618s and people where you need to have sick
6620s gear to do
6621s uh and get a possibly random reward in
6623s other words ellie help fire torch win
6625s yeah um
6626s definitely
6627s yes
6629s um
6630s when
6631s i don't know
6637s um
6640s like that that may that it's possible
6641s that may not even show up until i post
6643s launch really
6645s in like a full-fledged form
6647s of like
6652s like really a lot of stuff it's possible
6656s might be before it might not be i don't
6658s know
6660s and that's i think that would fall into
6661s that category of um
6664s it depends how much time multiplayer
6666s takes to finish you know like if
6669s multiplayer takes less time than we
6670s expect to finish yeah it's a good chance
6672s if multiple takes um
6674s more time than we expect to finish nah
6676s it's probably what i have before launch
6677s like it's it's probably in that category
6681s which is like
6682s half the features that we want to put
6695s basically everything's in that category
6700s finish multiplayer and then see what
6702s else we have time to put in for
6715s it is so hot in here i can't open that
6718s door it looks good hotter
6719s oh my
6721s goodness okay you know what we've got a
6724s little little video to show you
6729s baboon
6756s yeah so this is a
6759s new armor set
6761s looks pretty sweet
6763s pumped for it
6766s uh yeah
6775s one more rotation here we go
6786s appreciate the emphasis on knee and shin
6788s safety in this armor
6791s hey yeah like knees are
6795s so important i have
6796s awful knees
6798s and it sucks
6801s it's weird thing where like one of the
6803s nerves like
6804s runs along the side of my knee in the
6805s wrong way and it like
6810s whenever i skate it gets really bad so i
6813s like have to take my knee my hands and
6815s like wrap them around my knee and go
6817s like this really hard on the sides of my
6818s knee in order to like push it back into
6821s the right spot
6824s or else i like can't skate properly
6830s the only thing a lot of people don't
6830s know when you're skating you're actually
6831s pushing to the side not back you don't
6833s you don't push yourself
6835s um you don't like you you you keep your
6838s feet
6840s yeah like you're pushing to the side not
6841s pushing back
6844s and like it's a completely different
6845s motion than walking
6861s foreign
6876s i can't wait to be able to play hockey
6877s again oh
6885s man i miss it
6892s after after um it's like it's calming
6894s down it's not gone everything but like
6896s it's getting a little better and things
6897s are starting to open up again and
6898s everything and i've i've had several
6900s friends who i used to play hockey with
6901s call me up out of the blue just be like
6903s we need more people around our teams
6904s after the pandemic and i'm like yeah
6907s pandemic's not over from you guys uh
6910s i'll call you when i'm comfortable
6921s boy i'd love to play
6927s one more leak one more leak one more
6929s leak don't have any more leaks sorry
6931s about that just the two
6941s are there was some verbal leaks i said
6942s some stuff earlier i'm sure you'll watch
6944s back there and see
6948s i heard a lot of concerns from people
6950s when multiplayer released a majority of
6952s the players will jump onto le trying it
6955s out and expecting a full-fledged game
6956s already then being disappointed are
6958s there plans from each side to clearly
6960s communicate hey
6962s this multiplayer but now we will ramp up
6964s our content patch cycles to finish up
6965s the features that are missing i mean
6967s yeah i think it'll be really clear that
6968s like this is still an early access title
6970s when multiplayer launches it's the
6972s game's not out yet
6974s it's an early access title it's still in
6977s development
6978s um
6979s hopefully that's gonna be obvious and
6981s clear to people
6982s um
6986s i'm not sure it will be
6990s but i'll uh i guess i'll try and make
6992s sure it is
6997s maybe that's just like maybe that comes
6999s from having been a part of a lot of
7002s those types of things before in the past
7003s and understanding that
7005s like what a non one point something plus
7009s um
7010s like like having having a version number
7012s that's less than one what that means
7015s um
7018s but i'd hope that most people that were
7019s involved in it would still appreciate
7021s that
7032s do you think that'll be a problem do you
7034s think that'll be a comprehension problem
7037s i hope not
7041s i don't think that that's that clear
7042s gamers are not that way oh am i am i
7045s just a weirdo
7051s well i know i'm a weirdo but
7061s i feel like most people would inherently
7063s understand that
7065s an unreleased product that's still in
7067s development is not complete
7070s no
7077s easy too easy
7085s like if if someone got a hold of a or if
7088s they like released movies
7090s before they were done like the cgi is
7091s not finished and like
7094s um
7096s and also stuff i feel like people would
7097s inherently be able to understand that
7099s okay the movie's not out yet and
7101s um you can't judge this based on a full
7103s release title and all those sorts of
7105s things or maybe i'm just completely out
7107s to lunch and they would do the same
7108s thing for that too
7119s not happening
7121s is this one of those i don't understand
7123s how people think problems
7142s [Music]
7145s uh was that the mage armor leak
7148s different than the t61 shown during the
7150s last dead blog i don't know i can
7152s honestly i can't remember what was shown
7153s in the last episode
7160s i think that was a problem for like
7162s valheim but i see gamers figured it out
7165s yeah that's a good point actually
7170s different armory sk okay yes yes it is
7171s different
7174s i seriously think there will be a large
7175s portion of players uh writing ellie off
7178s after they uh
7180s jumped on it when multiplayer is
7182s released and not being satisfied i mean
7189s the like the horrible
7192s answer to that is like well i guess
7193s we'll just delay multiplayer until we
7195s release the whole game
7199s don't worry not happening
7214s well
7215s we are at time
7218s if anyone's got any very last second
7219s questions i might be able to slip one in
7220s but for now
7228s i hope you had fun i know i did
7230s from everyone here at 11th hour games
7235s i hope you have a great day
7237s i hope you have a great week i hope you
7238s have a great time doing whatever you're
7240s doing
7242s thanks for stopping by