[2022] Developer Stream 6.3.22 | Last Epoch | Last Epoch Dev Tracker

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2s	good afternoon everybody welcome back to
4s	the last epoch devstream as always
8s	i'm your host mike
10s	happy to be here happy to have you here
11s	let's get into things
14s	now you may notice that i am not
17s	uh sporting the same character as i was
19s	last time
22s	probably forgot to change the title of
23s	the video
24s	that's all right
26s	we found
27s	a herald of the scurry with one
29s	legendary potential last week
31s	and uh i might not be my same herald oh
34s	is that not my same herald
40s	if it's not we'll switch it over right
41s	my proper harold just a sec here
49s	it's a different herald
50s	we're going to wear my real hair
53s	yeah
54s	i don't know
55s	three skill points whoops
57s	thank you very much friend of ex reset
59s	for 11 months in a row getting close to
60s	that one year mark
62s	here we go
63s	all right so we have points in this
66s	there we go
69s	okay so they flicked red this is where
71s	the points came out of all right
74s	we have
75s	ten squirrels
77s	we're gonna do a little uh
79s	a little bit a little bit of um
83s	monolith and then we'll go make our
85s	herald legendary
94s	we're severely under leveled
96s	but i think it's gonna work and we have
98s	a
99s	proper
101s	uh lewd filter set up this time and
102s	everything
103s	big big ups to rhymer he uh sorted us
106s	out with everything
108s	hello everyone who's joined uh hello
110s	douglas hello
113s	k phil my hair is getting longer yeah
115s	man my hair
129s	my hair's got entirely too long
131s	and i uh definitely need to fix it
138s	so we're all about you may notice
140s	there's a ton of bleeds that pop up
143s	a ton of bleeds that pop up on our
145s	enemies here
147s	our our herald just
151s	very conducive to
154s	bleeding everywhere which is great
163s	and we're kind of here for support for
164s	moral support but our minions are the
165s	real stars of the show here
169s	and i just i haven't played with the
170s	herald build yet on stream and i love
171s	this item so much so you know what we're
173s	playing with it
175s	i might go back to my marksman i was
177s	really enjoying it for sure
183s	as always if you have any questions
185s	please feel free to ask them in chat if
187s	you could precede them with an at last
188s	epoch game make my life a lot easier to
190s	be able to see who's asking what and i
192s	can answer them faster and as always all
194s	the proceeds from the stream go directly
196s	to charity and that charity changes
197s	every month and we happen to be the
199s	start of a month so we've got a new
200s	charity lined up for you today we have
201s	the national multiple sclerosis society
204s	and i'm sorry if i just watched how that
206s	is pronounced do my best um
212s	hope everyone here is having a great
215s	time
218s	i'll answer a few questions here is it
219s	intentional that players can stand in a
221s	dead zone for lightless arbor or will
224s	that be looked at it seems we'll start
225s	standing in a corner to avoid the first
227s	phase max
228s	uh i think that's probably a mistake
233s	i like probably feels like a mistake
235s	when you're like when you guys are
236s	looking at it so i would uh
239s	it'd be pretty confidence mistake
247s	emperor doesn't know the item that we
248s	are using to to get squirrels instead of
250s	wolves is this herald of the scurry it
252s	was a
253s	um uh creator unique
256s	for uh zizeron who made this
258s	um
260s	and uh we had it we had a nice stream
261s	with him when we we actually made the
263s	item together
265s	on stream with uh stands for myself and
267s	him
270s	and so yeah it doubles your squirrels
272s	basically
273s	it doubles your wolves and turns your
275s	wolves into squirrels
277s	uh
279s	and
281s	it changes the the howl into something
283s	else
284s	so they get basically they go rabid
288s	lego rage mode
290s	can we expect auto navigation in monos
293s	uh i'm not sure what you mean by by that
295s	could you elaborate what does auto
297s	navigation mean like
300s	you just
302s	like puts the games on game on rails or
304s	something like that uh
306s	i'm not sure what you mean by that
309s	uh
312s	this is when can we expect it
322s	based on skill bar this is a bm build it
324s	is a beast master build yeah yeah we are
325s	doing um
327s	i mean the skill bar same as our skills
329s	allocated there
330s	uh we're mostly in the beastmaster
333s	you can put that in the screenshot if
335s	you want
337s	i can go into a little bit a little bit
338s	more depth in a minute here
346s	this feels weird though like usually i'm
348s	playing zdps builds and i'm not doing
350s	zdps so it feels a little out of place
354s	i don't know what to do with myself
365s	was big leap
380s	yeah we've got our totem to enrage our
382s	squirrels and then our squirrels also
384s	enrage themselves so they're real mad
388s	they're in a frenzy rage
404s	all right
406s	an industry leader has implemented it in
408s	their recently released arpg it lets you
410s	automatically navigate the zone
413s	i assume
416s	uh based on the
418s	language you use that you're talking
419s	about diablo immortal i haven't played
421s	it yet
426s	and i'm
427s	quickly realizing that the comment was
430s	meant in jest
432s	uh
433s	i don't think that sounds like something
434s	we're planning on implementing
439s	uh when will we get content that takes
441s	40 years to acquire
443s	but we can lessen the grind with cash
445s	are these just a lot of uh digs in
447s	diablo immortal here is that what's
448s	going on
454s	i'm gonna i'm gonna answer them like i'm
456s	completely oblivious never we wouldn't
458s	do that
460s	like the serious questions
468s	but but seriously
470s	i don't think that's something we're
471s	planning on doing ever
473s	just just just in case that was
476s	not obvious
477s	i'm just going the wrong way my
478s	squirrels just they want to attack stuff
480s	over there come on guys this way
482s	this way
485s	yes
493s	it's this way come on
498s	all i can picture is like
502s	uh will ferrell in the producers with
504s	his with his pigeons they come this way
521s	hello do you think we may eventually add
523s	tech for temporary servers for
524s	communities to run races ala
527s	early poe temp races um
533s	maybe
535s	that's one of those things that would be
536s	really cool to do and we do have
539s	um
540s	have have ways of doing that because we
542s	kind of already do that a little bit
544s	with our testing setups
546s	um
547s	having it be a like production
549s	environment is a little bit trickier
552s	there's a little bit more going on there
553s	that needs to be done um
556s	i would say it's not impossible but it
557s	won't be a launch
558s	product there won't be a day one thing
561s	that we have but that doesn't sound like
562s	a really cool thing to have
579s	maybe auto navigate double mortals real
581s	and yes they are yeah
586s	i don't know
588s	like i was actually quite excited to try
590s	it and i haven't seen
592s	fantastic reviews yet i will still give
594s	it a shot
596s	because i feel like that would be
597s	like i don't know
598s	irresponsible to not try it at least
605s	i know our uh one of the other
607s	developers um left a pretty big write-up
610s	ignoring any
612s	uh monetization stuff just about the
614s	gameplay feel and all that sort of the
616s	actual game content
620s	and he had some really good info in
621s	there so i like that
629s	that's the trouble with minion builds i
630s	want to go one direction they want to go
631s	another that's why you have the a key
632s	tell them to go that way
634s	dance this way dance that way dance this
637s	way dance this way haha
644s	oh i thought there's gonna be something
645s	up there
663s	yeah they don't do much damage myself do
664s	i
670s	i should just be using my abilities to
671s	reposition things
675s	i got i got um
677s	pull on war cry and pull on leap
680s	i think this it feels that way
685s	these squirrels are doing work though my
687s	goodness
689s	so this is what a real build feels like
703s	is the reason why some zones show the
705s	mob level on top right when doing the
706s	campaign most don't show level um
709s	they generally should all show a level
710s	when you have the large map turned on
713s	i think
717s	um
718s	if they don't i would assume that
720s	they're just scaled to your own level
721s	but i feel like we would show that
722s	anyways
727s	i'm not sure sorry
732s	so how are the internal testing with
735s	multiplayer going
736s	uh curious only
740s	only come to stream two to four times
742s	here okay um it's going really well uh
744s	we've started if you if anyone's
746s	worrying about update on multiplayer
747s	testing um
748s	we've finished our second
750s	ct test
752s	um so there are people who don't work
754s	for 11th hour games that are playing
755s	multiplayer which has gone really well
758s	um
761s	and we're you know still building
763s	systems we're still developing
765s	uh content for the game we're still
768s	squashing bugs and making things smooth
770s	and all that sort of stuff
776s	but you know it's moving along swell
779s	it's
781s	the time we took last year to
783s	to really uh
786s	to restructure some of our back end
787s	systems has paid off quite a bit as far
789s	as um development progress now is
792s	concerned and the quality of the product
793s	we've got now
803s	um
808s	don't need a helmet or weapon really at
809s	all do i because those are set with
813s	uniques did you really want to get the
816s	mountain shield
819s	i guess i need an exalted helm to make
821s	my
823s	legendary herald
830s	uh i see a question here that that uh
833s	uh have you ever tried grim dawn i have
835s	tricked him done definitely put out
836s	lastly [ __ ] game in the questions and
837s	i'll see him better but yes i have trade
838s	groom done i quite like grim dawn i
840s	thought it was a ton of fun
842s	um i wish i had played it more
845s	when it was
846s	um
846s	fresher
848s	like when it when like first came out
849s	that sort of thing
850s	um i think it suffered for my opinion of
855s	it
855s	um well like i do think it's really good
858s	i guess the pain is bad work enjoyment
860s	that i got out of it
861s	may have suffered a little bit from it
862s	being an older game by the time i tried
864s	it for the first time
867s	um but no i think grimdawn brings a ton
869s	of really awesome stuff to the table and
871s	they did a lot of stuff really well
874s	um
875s	and i think
877s	it it's it doesn't get as much attention
879s	as it deserves really
881s	and it's processor titan quest too also
883s	a great game picked it up on the switch
885s	a little while ago from the library and
886s	played it i was a lot of fun
888s	it was cool to be able to have this like
891s	i don't know
892s	older game show up as a switch title
896s	it was cool i liked it
901s	i can learn a lot what not to do i mean
903s	okay so yeah there's uh if you ignore
905s	the monetizations issues that people
907s	have been bringing up a lot there's
908s	there's a lot of good information about
911s	um actual system designs and
913s	uh like
916s	uh sound design and vfx design and
918s	things like that like that still
920s	has quality i think
923s	even even if you're not a fan of the
924s	other parts of
925s	it referring to diablo mortal again not
927s	grim dog grimdon has
931s	extremely lenient monetization systems
950s	are you a lead dev i'm not the lead dev
952s	i i'm a senior developer i'd say
955s	um it's hard it's hard to put actual
957s	titles on things but
959s	um
961s	been here for a long time
982s	i do uh i mostly push the skills
985s	development stuff as like if you want to
988s	pick like a department that i i guess i
990s	lead-ish is skills development
1004s	speaking about monetization when will we
1006s	see more skins also do you plan to
1008s	release reskinned skill effects yes and
1010s	if so how will it work in game mechanics
1012s	change how skills look like already um
1016s	the
1016s	so yeah we are planning on um
1019s	you can see appearance right here
1021s	there's there's a section for skill
1022s	effects down at the bottom already this
1023s	is sort of a um
1025s	meant to signal that we're planning on
1026s	doing this to people
1028s	because you can't really do anything
1029s	with it right now it doesn't do anything
1031s	um
1039s	um no there's a bug
1041s	anyways uh
1043s	these
1045s	would take priority over
1048s	uh changes done in the skill tree so if
1050s	you for example if you had um
1053s	let's use fireball as an example and you
1055s	and you've got plasma ball and it adds
1056s	that lightning effect around it um but
1058s	then you have a ski a skill vfx skin for
1062s	it that maybe is like
1064s	a void ball and it changes it to avoid
1066s	fireball
1066s	visuals
1068s	totally making this up the spot no idea
1069s	for you to do this but if we did the
1071s	void one that you paid for as an mtx a
1073s	cosmetic ncx would supersede the ones in
1076s	game
1079s	um and when will we see more skins um
1083s	we're really trying to finish up the
1085s	in-game
1086s	stuff first before we do the um
1091s	uh cosmetic stuff so we're
1094s	still still working on the in-game stuff
1095s	before we get to cosmetics
1101s	it's not to say they're not like
1103s	there's not stuff in motion happening
1105s	but um
1108s	we're we're trying to finish the in-game
1109s	stuff before we release cosmetic stuff
1115s	it's also sort of like a weird thing
1117s	about like releasing the cosmetic stuff
1119s	before the game's online
1122s	you know
1123s	there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff
1124s	that we need to be careful of and make
1126s	sure we're uh being careful
1130s	uh
1131s	i always said
1132s	careful twice there but
1134s	i don't know a better word for it
1134s	cognizant
1137s	cognizant of the implications
1142s	that's me trying to sound
1149s	smart zacharias bay have you thought
1151s	about offering a one-time mtx chest at
1154s	the end of dungeons with bonus currency
1156s	like gold cosmetics or something i don't
1157s	know just footballing here i think we
1159s	strayed into these uh joke questions
1162s	again
1164s	but in all serious answers no we haven't
1166s	considered doing that
1182s	as you know if the game is going to go
1184s	live around september i mean
1185s	everything's stored in servers no more
1187s	local save files i i don't have any more
1189s	information about what's happening on
1191s	timelines other than
1193s	the current goal
1195s	is that the next major patch will be
1197s	sometime in and around september-ish or
1200s	thereabouts
1217s	last pair of gloves do we wear them
1220s	probably not
1234s	oh when i was going when i was when i
1236s	was a bear i wore them but
1238s	otherwise they need they need some love
1242s	uh do you know if they go in the
1243s	question any updates regarding new class
1245s	specializations uh they are still in the
1247s	same state they were
1249s	a year ago
1252s	there's no information on them we've not
1254s	done any work on them they are still
1261s	pending okay serious question you
1263s	mentioned in may on discord about some
1265s	interesting changes to ailments can you
1267s	tell what that pertains to not the exact
1269s	changes but maybe the implications yeah
1271s	i mean so um
1272s	there's we've gotten a lot of feedback
1274s	over the last little while about um how
1277s	much stronger and thematic and
1279s	interesting poison is compared to bleed
1282s	and ignite um and and
1285s	at the baseline they're extremely
1287s	similar things like they're just a
1288s	different themed version of each other
1289s	really um they're a dot that one of them
1292s	seemed around physical damage bleeding
1294s	one of them seemed around
1296s	fire damage burning one of them steamed
1298s	around poison damage poison
1302s	and they're all really
1303s	common uh
1305s	ailments in in rpgs and games fantasy
1308s	games in general it's a really really
1310s	common thing to have is those those
1311s	three are sort of the staples
1313s	there's a lot of others that are really
1314s	common too but i'd argue that those
1316s	three are like the most common
1319s	i could be wrong with that but that's
1320s	what i feel anyways um
1322s	we didn't really have anything
1325s	to balance like because poison has this
1328s	uh
1329s	extra
1331s	um i was the ability to
1334s	uh to shred enemy resistance based on
1338s	um
1339s	the number each stack also shreds enemy
1341s	poison resistance so you get this
1342s	compounding effect where every poison is
1344s	more powerful than the last because it
1345s	makes every other poison on there
1347s	already deal more damage
1351s	um and a lot of people
1352s	very quickly noticed in multiplayer
1354s	which i mean it's not something we were
1356s	we knew this was gonna happen this is
1358s	not like oh my god this happened but we
1360s	get into multiple testing people make
1362s	groups of just everyone's applying
1364s	poison
1365s	um because suddenly this
1366s	self-compounding poison damage
1369s	is even more powerful when you have four
1372s	people doing it instead of one
1374s	um
1377s	and and so we
1380s	we we knew we were going to have to do
1381s	something and we've been sort of humming
1383s	and hawing and fumbling and figuring out
1384s	what we're going to do for quite a while
1386s	now to fix this problem
1389s	um
1390s	and and then on top that we also get
1391s	frequent feedback that bleed and ignite
1393s	are not interesting they're just a
1395s	boring version of poison like people
1396s	want something else to go with it but we
1398s	frequently get okay make something else
1401s	to go with it but don't make that
1402s	something
1404s	just the same as poison where fire
1406s	shreds fire reds and
1407s	um bleed shreds physical reds you know
1409s	like keep it a little more interesting
1411s	than that um
1413s	it's tough to do there's not a lot you
1415s	can do there um
1419s	it's it's a really tricky problem to
1421s	solve and especially also just having
1424s	uh these these dot elements be
1427s	relatively simple is actually a bonus
1429s	because it's having easy to understand
1431s	and easy to gauge mechanics is really
1433s	important as well something that you can
1434s	quickly decide if you want or not and
1436s	and
1437s	maybe having those advanced features be
1439s	part of
1440s	um
1441s	other effects through
1442s	um
1444s	through weapons is really useful however
1448s	so about about two years ago three years
1450s	ago somewhere in there about two years
1451s	ago we were unable to change ailment
1454s	effects at all so like there was an
1456s	ailment once that whatever that element
1458s	was that's what it was and you couldn't
1460s	change that ailment
1461s	on the fly about like things it did um
1466s	so we and we actually changed that
1468s	system uh when we introduced death seal
1471s	nope um
1475s	crap
1477s	uh it wasn't marked for death it was the
1478s	one after that blood curse bone curse
1482s	um
1484s	oof apparently i have to play an acolyte
1486s	uh
1488s	anyways we introduced that it has a
1489s	whole bunch of things that because it is
1491s	an ailment and there's a whole bunch of
1492s	things in its tree that change that
1494s	element on the fly
1497s	um
1499s	and so we we created the system great oh
1502s	my goodness there was a lot of stuff
1503s	happening there just got out a little
1505s	bit that's fine um
1508s	it works really well when that ailment
1510s	is being applied from one source
1513s	or
1514s	very few sources but as soon as you have
1516s	that animal being applied from
1519s	anything and everything like bleed and
1521s	ignite are i've done this portal as echo
1524s	and i'm just like playing
1526s	as mindfully because i got rambling
1527s	sorry um
1529s	you have
1531s	it it's a pretty big performance hit to
1533s	to give nodes that say like
1536s	um
1537s	ignite now shreds fire res on like a
1540s	node in your passenger that that has a
1542s	pretty huge
1544s	um performance cost to it
1546s	just because of the way that
1549s	elements are applied to each other
1550s	applied simultaneously to the same
1552s	target from different
1555s	sources um
1557s	so
1558s	we we we haven't done that in any places
1560s	you may have maybe noticed if you didn't
1561s	notice we haven't done that anywhere
1563s	because of this performance that we
1565s	would have had to take um
1568s	so we've we've made some changes to the
1569s	way the ailments work in general to
1572s	improve performance on
1574s	a lot of axes actually not just this one
1575s	so there's just better performance with
1576s	elements just in general um but then
1579s	we've also given it the ability to have
1582s	something called threshold bonuses
1586s	uh so this is a new thing that elements
1588s	can do
1589s	um where it's it's very similar to the
1592s	idea in the druid passives
1595s	uh see here we've got this like uh at
1597s	five points you get
1599s	an extra one all attributes uh when you
1601s	have five points in this android prowess
1603s	um so at five five points you have uh
1605s	six to two and six strength five uh
1608s	vitality five dexterity and five intel
1610s	or
1611s	one dick's one bite one hand sorry um
1616s	and so
1618s	this th this type of concept can then be
1620s	applied to ailments as well where you
1621s	have
1622s	say at 10 stacks something new could
1625s	happen
1627s	[Music]
1630s	that's the sort of stuff that
1633s	sort of new technology
1635s	that is
1636s	available in there now
1638s	that might actually be a good um
1642s	good weapons what are we getting out of
1643s	this
1647s	the armor shred
1648s	yeah it's the armor shred
1652s	it's just so good
1657s	yeah we'll stay with
1659s	something
1660s	which is so good
1663s	good little squirrel army are any of
1664s	them name differently
1666s	oh
1670s	it'd be hard to see
1673s	oh we got one let's name differently i
1674s	think
1676s	river river hey river
1680s	any others
1683s	no just river
1685s	that's cool
1686s	river is our squirrel captain
1689s	a little helmet for river
1705s	okay let me get back into some questions
1707s	here
1708s	feel like i missed a couple
1711s	uh one feature i did like for the pc
1713s	release of mortal was the was the
1715s	movement being an option have you
1716s	considered this yeah um that is
1718s	something we've considered and um
1720s	given that we do have controller support
1722s	it's not a terrible step to do
1726s	um it basically just turns wazdy into a
1728s	joystick um
1733s	you know
1735s	i guess you could map wisely to joystick
1737s	controls and activate the controller and
1739s	and there you go
1740s	that'll be horrible don't don't do that
1742s	um
1744s	but it is something we get asked every
1745s	once in a while it's not something that
1747s	i
1748s	that we are that's like
1749s	on a to-do list right now but it is
1752s	something that i could see gets done if
1754s	um
1755s	if we have some time for down the road
1757s	but uh right now it's not specifically
1759s	listed
1761s	but i do i do get the appeal for it um
1765s	some people really like it
1783s	all right next question here
1785s	uh hi do you know if it is planned to
1788s	lock the monoliths behind the chapters
1790s	or will it stay as openly accessible as
1793s	it is um i think it's still planned to
1795s	stay the way it is
1796s	um
1800s	yeah
1802s	we give incentives to
1805s	uh oh we've got an experience buff we're
1806s	going let's go
1809s	uh would you give incentives to um
1814s	to completing the campaign via
1817s	uh quest rewards
1819s	but some people really want to just go
1821s	and get into the uh into the dungeons
1825s	or into the models
1829s	i don't personally see a problem with
1830s	that
1832s	but we'll
1835s	see stuff changes all the time
1850s	you know the right way
1853s	probably not that's okay
1859s	i'm here to chew bubble gum and have fun
1861s	looks like we're all out of bubble gum
1866s	we're just gonna have fun
1879s	can't laugh yourself no one else will
1880s	either
1888s	i'm sure that's not how that saying goes
1899s	all right what class do you think needs
1900s	the most love at the moment how do you
1902s	determine if it's a class or individual
1904s	skills need a second task um i mean we
1906s	quite often will
1908s	it's about
1909s	it's about a lot of things a lot of it
1910s	comes from player feedback a lot of it
1912s	comes from just some metrics that we
1914s	have internally about um the way certain
1916s	skills should look and
1918s	and the like the just physical numbers
1920s	behind a lot of those things such as
1922s	just number of nodes in a tree number of
1924s	average points in a tree number of
1926s	maximum points per node in a tree number
1928s	of connections per tree number of um
1931s	like
1932s	connection requirements perp
1935s	uh connection you know like there's all
1937s	these little things that we look at that
1939s	we want to have in certain parameters
1942s	and when some of them are big outliers
1943s	we tell we tend to look at those to
1945s	decide if we want to
1947s	um to shore some of those up
1953s	um
1956s	and often
1959s	yeah let's go somewhere let's see what's
1960s	up
1962s	often um
1965s	it'll be pretty obvious
1966s	so like for example
1968s	as far as skills go i can show you
1970s	really quickly um there's some skills
1972s	but one of our rules is no nodes over
1974s	five points
1975s	one two there's more than two in here
1978s	isn't there
1979s	it was not but there's two nodes here
1980s	that are over five points each right
1982s	away
1983s	um and then we also do
1985s	we want approximately 30 nodes
1993s	it's less than 20.
1994s	like we're not even two-thirds of the
1995s	way to the right number of nodes um
1998s	so like there's there's definitely
1999s	definite just
2001s	number of problems in this tree and you
2003s	do the exact same thing to save her
2004s	tooth like there's an eight
2006s	uh there's a little over here's in there
2008s	there's a seven
2010s	yeah like there's another eight
2013s	there's there's problems in these trees
2014s	so i mean there's things like that you
2015s	can tell pretty easily um
2018s	sometimes it just comes from looking at
2020s	uh how homogenized the builds are that
2022s	are appearing so we'll see um like 100
2025s	of players take
2026s	these five nodes and this passive no
2028s	matter what and it's like okay well
2032s	the other notes probably aren't strong
2033s	enough or these notes are too strong or
2035s	some combination of the two
2037s	and we'll start to look at things like
2038s	that
2039s	uh it quite often it comes down to the
2041s	age of the stuff as well
2043s	um
2045s	funny i've got two exactly the same ones
2046s	back-to-back anyways yeah so we
2050s	recently have and we'll quite often try
2051s	and take a look at things batched
2053s	together
2054s	um so recently we did a lot of stuff
2056s	with the druid where we we completely
2058s	reworked swarm blade we added swarm
2060s	blade and reworked spriggan form and
2062s	bare form all at the same time and then
2064s	we rooted the passive tree at the same
2065s	time
2067s	um
2068s	so we'll kind of do them in chunks
2070s	together so because next time we do when
2072s	we do look at some of baron summer and
2073s	sabretooth at the same time
2075s	and uh wolf
2077s	uh
2078s	wolf needs visuals but nothing else
2080s	really don't think it may need some
2081s	touches um we'll probably look at the at
2083s	the passive tree a little bit at the
2084s	same time as well
2086s	um
2087s	so i hope that gives an idea of how we
2089s	look at that
2090s	um
2092s	sometimes it's just from us playing and
2093s	being like this wasn't fun
2096s	how do we make it fun
2110s	like this i'm having a lot of fun
2117s	i don't think these skills need to be
2118s	looked at much
2126s	wolf might actually as i'm saying this
2128s	i'm like wolf might have a node that's
2129s	over five points
2135s	doesn't look like it whoo
2138s	i mean yeah i knew that
2142s	so what class do i think needs the most
2144s	work at the moment
2146s	um
2147s	i don't think any one class okay i mean
2150s	most total work rogue
2153s	but not for the reasons you may think
2154s	mostly just because a it's missing a
2156s	mastery and b it has the fewest total
2157s	skills
2158s	um
2160s	so we're just looking at like the total
2161s	number of skills that need to be done
2162s	like shaman needs a fair bit of love
2164s	um beastmaster actually needs a favorite
2166s	with with the these two summons but
2168s	overall
2170s	um primeless is pretty darn good
2173s	mage needs a look and there's no rune
2174s	master
2176s	mostly mage in teleport needs a look
2179s	um
2180s	it's such a prominent skill and it's
2182s	really not very good
2185s	i think the passives there could just
2186s	could use some love too
2188s	uh
2192s	and then obviously there's
2193s	we're still looking at um
2196s	there's there's a lot of paladin stuff
2198s	that needs touches i think um
2201s	judgment
2202s	uh
2203s	healing hands
2206s	um the one missing paladin skill as well
2211s	and then that passive she needs love too
2213s	and and also just sigils and and holy
2215s	horror and you need some love too i
2216s	think so i think paladin it needs a good
2218s	chunk
2221s	even though it does have like paladin i
2223s	think has a lot of really fun builds to
2225s	play even though there's this like okay
2227s	paladin needs uh work on a lot of things
2230s	there's there's at the same time a lot
2231s	of really fun paladin builds out there
2233s	um
2234s	namely i would say uh javelin's my
2236s	favorite i think javelin's got quite a
2237s	few i think gentlemen might be carrying
2238s	a little bit um
2240s	hammer through smite's a lot of fun too
2242s	you can play that other other classes
2243s	too though um
2245s	so there's there's there's a lot that
2247s	goes into picking what's gonna be worked
2248s	on next um
2252s	a lot of it right now is what's the most
2254s	necessary to get to launch with
2266s	other than don't turn a single player
2268s	game into a multiplayer game great
2269s	advice by the way uh what would you all
2272s	do differently if you start over today
2274s	ah it's a it's an interesting question
2277s	um not a lot really
2287s	i mean
2288s	all the big overhauls and changes i
2289s	would just do those from the beginning
2292s	it's kind of a cop-out answer i don't i
2293s	don't have a good answer for this um
2295s	because that's really the big thing is
2297s	is wow
2299s	so yes
2301s	don't turn a single player game into
2302s	multiple game we would not have had
2305s	the resources to make this a proper
2308s	multiplayer game
2309s	when we first started
2311s	if we if we just went straight to
2312s	multiplayer only there would have been
2314s	there would have been an extra two years
2315s	before we would have got to kickstarter
2317s	even
2320s	um
2321s	and i'm not sure that would have been
2322s	like actually healthy for the game as a
2325s	whole i don't know if we would have made
2327s	it this far if we've done that like it's
2328s	so hard to say like what you would
2329s	change
2333s	um
2336s	yeah i don't know
2340s	basically everyone everything we've been
2342s	able to change
2347s	i don't know
2348s	i'm sorry i don't have a good answer
2361s	there haven't there haven't been a whole
2362s	lot of of like
2365s	well if we'd only known i would've done
2366s	this differently other than specific
2369s	multiplayer related stuff that's like
2370s	that's the big thing there's certain
2372s	multiple things like we wouldn't have
2373s	started down certain paths we wouldn't
2375s	have
2376s	um
2378s	you know lots of things that we ended up
2379s	burning a fair bit of time on
2387s	but
2388s	it was it was necessary like we there's
2390s	all these things you kind of just have
2391s	to do to know that the wrong thing
2401s	i'm gonna go with nothing
2406s	uh just a reminder to chat you can take
2408s	oh yeah
2414s	your question and i will answer
2415s	otherwise i'll skim right over it
2418s	because i'm the worst
2421s	is it a deliberate artistic decision
2423s	that there are no angels or demons in
2425s	last epoch or can we expect it in the
2427s	future um it's a little bit of an
2429s	intentional
2431s	artistic decision um
2434s	you know there's there's a lot of
2436s	different things you can create in a
2437s	world and
2440s	recognizing
2442s	other major players in a game space
2444s	and keeping yourself distinct without
2446s	compromising a set game vision
2449s	is useful i think
2452s	um
2453s	and so i like obviously what i mean
2455s	obviously what i'm referring to here is
2457s	diablo's whole storyline is focused
2459s	around angels and demons
2462s	and nephilim i guess you could say the
2464s	children of angels and demons but yeah
2465s	it's all it's all around angels and
2466s	mutants and um
2470s	like it's a lot of really cool stuff and
2471s	i'm not saying we won't ever have it
2473s	um
2474s	but
2476s	the focus not being on that is really
2478s	intentional
2487s	it also just wasn't part of and i don't
2489s	know if this was intentional from the
2490s	start but it also just wasn't part of
2493s	the lord master's initial
2496s	like story and and game design vision
2500s	you know like what he initially pitched
2502s	was did not include angels or demons
2521s	i will make it possible
2532s	oh that's my totem
2535s	oh i forgot we buffed the totems hard on
2536s	there how much health they have
2541s	this is just fantastic i'm doing damage
2545s	uh like i'm surviving
2549s	i'm hopping around the battlefield and
2550s	doing fun stuff this is great i'm liking
2553s	this field thanks remember
2560s	squirrel pet bill doesn't make me want
2562s	this game anymore yeah squirrel pad
2563s	build you know it
2570s	what else would we have right wolves
2585s	uh how do you guys plan to handle
2587s	creator uniques that have lost their
2589s	touch
2590s	um or usage over the over many different
2593s	iterations of the game one example i can
2594s	think of is sebastian which i don't
2596s	think i've ever seen used in my time
2598s	playing the game if sebastian's a really
2600s	old unique i don't know if we're even
2601s	still in contact with the person who
2603s	made it um
2607s	i i haven't seen them around for a very
2609s	long time but um we use usually if
2612s	there's like a an issue with with a
2614s	creator unique and like a creator wants
2616s	to
2617s	um
2618s	like like a big issue it's gone
2620s	completely out of the original vision of
2622s	what it was for we try and contact them
2625s	to say like hey we've noticed a problem
2627s	with this or if we've uh if we've
2629s	changed an item or if we change the
2631s	system that it interacts with and we
2632s	know it's pretty unique we try and say
2634s	to them hey um
2636s	like we're making this change we want
2638s	that's going to affect the stat on your
2640s	item and we want to change to this how
2642s	do you feel about that let me do a quick
2644s	little
2646s	back and forth we'll probably do less of
2648s	that once the game fully launches
2650s	because they'll probably overall be less
2652s	movement with major systems
2654s	um
2655s	but we may still do it who knows um
2657s	right now because things are still in
2658s	flux it's uh it's a little
2662s	um
2664s	you know we like to look to keep those
2666s	items and we did make them i don't want
2668s	to
2669s	um acknowledge that we did make a
2670s	mistake about this recently um where we
2673s	changed the creator unique without
2674s	consulting the creator um and it was not
2677s	what they would have wanted um and we
2680s	went back and we changed it again with
2681s	their consultation which i think was was
2683s	i think ended up in a good spot
2687s	i hope it did anyways
2691s	you haven't been calling me out on it so
2693s	uh
2694s	i think it's probably okay
2699s	let's go
2706s	uh imagine killing
2709s	angels and demons with the squirrel army
2711s	like uh so there's there's sort of an
2712s	old joke in uh i guess it's an old joke
2715s	now um
2717s	if anyone plays magic the uh there's
2719s	these creatures called
2721s	um
2723s	the eldrazi
2724s	and they are
2726s	kind of
2727s	eldritch horror type
2728s	um
2730s	unknowable entities that exist in
2733s	between planes that protrude into some
2736s	planes
2737s	uh as these
2739s	these
2740s	monstrosities that
2742s	um
2744s	corrupt and suppress and all these crazy
2746s	things they can do
2748s	um
2750s	and
2752s	uh there's a joke about about like one
2754s	of the biggest and baddest of them that
2756s	can be taken down by 13 squirrely boys
2758s	because they can
2762s	and there's also like fan art of the
2763s	card with like 13 squirrels on it
2768s	which i like it's funny
2773s	so yeah taking down angel's demons with
2775s	squirrels
2776s	but they're like special magical
2777s	squirrels right
2783s	is there no squirrel level
2785s	yes
2793s	see i know how to answer a negative
2794s	question
2809s	well we see an auction house uh it's
2811s	it's
2812s	unlikely but possible i would say at
2814s	this point
2819s	um and i i want to
2820s	clear that i mean that by in the near
2822s	future because you know stuff changes
2824s	all the time and who knows what's gonna
2826s	happen in
2827s	five years from now
2832s	a target staff
2837s	what is the build i'm playing right now
2838s	besides the squirrels i would be happy
2840s	to take you through a brief walkthrough
2842s	of my build that i'm rocking right now
2844s	um so our primary skill is summon primal
2847s	or someone wolf which is converted to
2849s	squirrels
2851s	um basically just a bunch of bleed
2854s	lead duration
2856s	bleed
2858s	bleed dodge rating and all that sort of
2859s	stuff health keep them alive make them
2861s	bleed uh then we've got our war cry
2864s	which is the big shout i've been doing
2866s	um so usually work right knocks back
2868s	enemies this pulls them in tight so i
2869s	can position enemies so my squirrels
2871s	have uh easier
2873s	um
2874s	action access to them and then i get a
2876s	little brief window of vulnerability
2877s	afterwards for defensive purposes i have
2879s	a summoned frenzy totem which causes all
2881s	my squirrels to be more awesomer um
2884s	basically just buffing them up to do
2885s	damage um
2887s	this only makes it only affect
2889s	companions but makes it do way more so
2891s	focuses on commanding damage here uh
2893s	fury leaf this is mostly
2895s	a movement utility skill for me
2898s	um but i also cast um more minions as
2902s	vines when i land
2904s	so and it also pulls enemies in
2907s	for repositioning enemies as well and
2909s	creating more minions um and then i've
2911s	got swipe which is my main attack that i
2912s	do most of the time
2915s	um it's
2916s	it's mostly said to do
2917s	fizz shred bleed
2919s	and
2920s	claw totems which is another meaning
2921s	that can spawn by chance as well that
2923s	will inflict more bleeds
2927s	as for passives
2929s	um
2932s	bleed melee
2935s	health
2936s	you know pretty straightforward sharing
2937s	stuff with uh minions um
2940s	armor and endurance rating here which is
2942s	a really powerful early node in druid uh
2946s	and then beastmaster which i still have
2947s	a point that i can put into right now
2948s	which i just put in here
2951s	yeah
2953s	aspect buffs are um
2955s	a pretty key part of
2957s	most uh primeless builds
2959s	um
2960s	so i can last longer so no i know we
2962s	have
2963s	at least one that we're
2967s	snagging every once in a while
2973s	eva i see you either the question
2975s	answers you say is there
2977s	uh
2978s	is there no squirrel level and i said
2981s	yes so yes there's no scroll level
2986s	just just to be clear
2993s	thank you very much we have uh
2997s	oh this is a tricky one
2999s	uh
3000s	flutter under hintern
3006s	man i butchered that i apologize but
3010s	i got close enough to satisfy myself so
3012s	i hope it was good enough for you too
3013s	thank you for the subscription much
3015s	appreciated that will be going to
3018s	the ms society
3035s	uh don't get to put at last epoch game
3037s	in the question and i'll see it easier
3039s	there's a first time one here have you
3040s	considered doing a crossover with
3042s	carcassonne
3043s	where you fight meatballs in farm roads
3045s	and cities
3047s	uh i i can't say i've considered that no
3050s	but uh it would be fun
3052s	oh i've got a big carcassonne box in the
3054s	in the cupboard i should pull that out i
3056s	haven't played it in years
3060s	one of my friends moved away and was
3062s	just like here you go i've been
3063s	collecting this for years
3065s	have fun
3068s	it's so overwhelming i've only played
3069s	the base game
3072s	so many expansions
3076s	with this longer patch cycle i know a
3077s	lot of focus is on multiplayer but can
3079s	we expect a somewhat bigger patch than
3081s	we've had i know there weren't many
3083s	changes between eight four and eight
3084s	five don't know if you can gauge the
3086s	size early the rough estimate um i i
3088s	don't have much info on what's coming
3090s	patch-wise for that uh for the next
3092s	patch um
3095s	multiplayer will be a pretty a
3096s	surprisingly large change unto itself
3099s	um
3102s	i i think you'll be surprised at how
3103s	much that that changes things on its own
3106s	but um yeah we're still working on this
3108s	stuff too
3111s	i can't uh
3114s	i can't give you a concrete oh it's
3116s	gonna be
3117s	x amount of stuff or anything like that
3119s	yet
3132s	the the chatter the squirrels have is
3135s	just
3136s	it's so oh it was uh
3138s	what what menu was that
3141s	is that the uh
3146s	this one yeah it's got
3148s	yeah there it is
3150s	okay
3151s	eric's flesh
3156s	if anyone from the team is watching
3157s	right now
3159s	eric's flesh needs to have
3161s	the i i know i i keep reading stuff but
3163s	i keep seeing it on stream and i keep
3165s	forgetting about it when i log off
3167s	eric's flesh needs to have the
3170s	uh
3171s	mini-map icon removed from it
3175s	or changed no just removed
3187s	oh hey i want to thank you very much for
3189s	a great game it's really a lot of fun
3191s	and i'm looking forward to the future
3192s	thanks greetings from germany and stay
3194s	healthy thank you very much i hope i
3195s	didn't butcher your name too much
3197s	and i am staying healthy it's crazy so
3200s	like
3201s	i don't know about everyone else but
3203s	usually
3203s	[Music]
3205s	once every year once every two years
3207s	maybe if i was lucky um
3209s	i'd get like a small cold or whatever
3212s	um
3215s	but i haven't had a cold since 2019 it's
3217s	been great
3230s	everything else has been terrible but i
3231s	haven't had a cold which has been great
3239s	gonna look on the bright side right
3250s	uh how has working 11th hour again uh
3253s	how is working at 11th hour slash
3255s	working on last epoch changed your life
3256s	i mean it's been it's been wild i um
3263s	i was i was working for a fairly small
3264s	software development company a local one
3266s	before that
3267s	before this
3269s	um
3272s	and it was like that was good i enjoyed
3274s	it it wasn't anywhere near as fun as
3276s	working on a video
3277s	game um
3279s	but you know it was fairly similar of
3281s	like day-to-day responsibilities
3283s	um
3286s	but having something you work on that
3288s	you're passionate about that's that
3290s	you're like
3293s	if i just didn't have any expenses
3295s	i would do this and not get paid type
3297s	thing like if i just if you had nothing
3299s	to spend money on ever what would you do
3303s	this is what i would do
3306s	um so that's that's pretty cool
3308s	um
3310s	sadly as most of you know we all
3312s	probably have things to spend money on
3314s	like food
3315s	and a place to live
3318s	um
3319s	but yeah it's it's it's been
3324s	it's been really great to be able to
3327s	uh
3328s	i don't know do something you love
3329s	something you enjoy it's been it's been
3330s	awesome
3332s	and uh
3335s	being able to work from home's really
3336s	nice too that's that's a big part of it
3346s	instead of having to like
3347s	drive home for lunch or walk home for
3349s	lunch if you wanted to like see see your
3350s	family during the middle of the day you
3351s	can just walk upstairs which is really
3353s	nice
3357s	that's probably the biggest changes
3361s	it's also tricky because like when i
3363s	started working 11th hour games and when
3365s	the pandemic hit was like
3367s	not too far apart
3372s	so like
3374s	it's hard to split the two
3380s	it's over a year apart but still
3394s	are the defensive layers in last epoch
3396s	pretty set are you all looking to expand
3398s	maybe improve the existing layers we
3399s	have i mean we're always looking to
3400s	improve them um
3402s	expand less so just because there
3404s	already are quite a few
3407s	um and we do want to have room for
3409s	doing things like that in the future
3412s	and keeping the initial version
3415s	less complicated i think
3417s	um
3419s	especially at launch is is a useful
3421s	thing
3424s	having that collective knowledge of a
3426s	game grow over time
3429s	is is
3430s	quite important
3433s	um
3449s	uh why is falcon in your favorite class
3451s	because it does
3452s	it plays differently than anything else
3455s	there's
3456s	like you've got you've got that first
3457s	ability that's a ton of fun and it's
3460s	really interesting as soon as you pick
3461s	up as soon as you master it you get that
3463s	ability and it's like the whole game
3464s	just sort of shifts a little bit
3467s	um
3468s	and then once once you get that uh five
3469s	points in your mastery and you get a
3470s	second ability to augment it it really
3472s	helps you
3473s	like it unlocks sort of a new play style
3475s	almost like there's there's that support
3477s	in the base class already
3478s	but when you get that second that second
3480s	ability you can really shift your
3481s	playstyle as you're leveling um
3484s	and i think it's really interesting
3494s	if you have no idea what i'm talking
3495s	about it's because none of this is real
3498s	and i'm just joking
3504s	it's not a finished class yet and i have
3506s	not been playing it
3519s	yeah let's go fast vines yeah vines need
3522s	haste
3532s	come on
3535s	uh follow-up question to defensive
3537s	players what gap where you think uh were
3540s	you all trying to fill when you
3541s	introduced endurance threshold so
3543s	interestingly enough endurance already
3546s	existed before endurance threshold was
3548s	introduced as a formal stat
3551s	um
3552s	we just didn't tell anyone that it did
3553s	it but everyone had endurance before
3554s	endurance was a thing
3557s	um i i think that the
3560s	the the main reason we we kind of put
3562s	that in was because there was sort of
3563s	this extra
3566s	this i guess there's sort of three main
3570s	like
3571s	i was a primary like let's look back
3573s	diablo one you have your strength decks
3575s	int as your two as your three main like
3578s	class archetypes um and and class styles
3582s	so you have um
3584s	and defensive layers kind of fit into
3587s	similar things so you have like health
3589s	and block that usually fit into this
3591s	like
3592s	um
3593s	strength style oriented thing um and you
3596s	have this
3597s	uh
3598s	this like dexterity focus thing which
3601s	usually revolves around dodge um
3603s	avoiding hits negating hits completely
3606s	um
3608s	and then you have um intelligence which
3610s	usually the defensive layers are more
3612s	about not getting hit at all because
3614s	you're too far away um or you're using
3616s	some sort of energy shield
3619s	which we have warned for
3621s	and um
3625s	health health and like health is useful
3627s	for everyone pretty well um and so it
3629s	didn't really feel like it was too
3630s	strength style oriented um and block
3633s	only works if you have a shield
3636s	um so we wanted to bring something in to
3639s	synergize more with
3642s	sort of most characters and
3645s	uh and health in general and not require
3647s	needing a shield to be useful
3651s	um
3652s	sort of a defensive layer for the
3653s	two-handers out there type thing um but
3656s	it's it kind of evolved into a little
3657s	bit more than that and also it really
3659s	helps in the
3660s	and this is kind of kind of cheating a
3662s	little bit
3663s	it makes you feel like you're closer to
3665s	death than you are in a lot of cases
3668s	um
3668s	which which if if
3670s	every single player every time they did
3672s	a model every time they fought a boss
3675s	they thought they were going to die
3677s	many times but didn't
3680s	that's the sweet spot you want everyone
3681s	to be like oh i almost died um
3685s	that that's the like that's the really
3687s	great feeling when you when someone's
3688s	like oh i i just barely beat that i
3691s	almost died it was so close
3694s	and
3694s	if your health at the lower section of
3696s	your health is more health than the
3699s	upper section of your health um
3702s	you get that feeling more often
3705s	um
3706s	which is part of the reason why we had
3707s	that in the game before we had endurance
3709s	as a as a mechanic at all to prevent one
3712s	shots prevent just getting
3714s	one shot slammed and having different
3716s	types of defensive layers that you can
3718s	invest into
3719s	to
3720s	um
3722s	uh different layers of defense to invest
3724s	into that prevent against different
3726s	types of enemies is really important and
3728s	um
3730s	historically the only way to really
3731s	invest in a don't get one shot uh is
3734s	just
3735s	it's generally just more health really
3737s	um
3738s	or global like just dr mechanics which
3741s	which i know i've kind of glanced over
3743s	is the fact they do exist in the game as
3744s	well
3745s	um
3748s	but yeah i guess that's where and then
3750s	we just wanted people to be able to
3751s	um
3753s	scale their endurance a little bit more
3756s	interact a little bit more so we we
3758s	added um
3759s	uh threshold as a
3762s	stat you can interact with
3772s	uh yeah
3773s	i didn't check with last epoch for a
3775s	long time did you improve performance
3776s	was getting a lot of fps issues before
3778s	uh yeah so we've had a lot of fps
3780s	improvements over the last few years um
3784s	not not everyone has had the same
3787s	increase in fps um as ever like it's
3791s	it's not uh
3792s	everyone's fps has gone up by this
3793s	amount no matter what um now different
3796s	people have different uh experiences
3798s	with the fps changes that we've put in
3800s	um but there definitely have been
3803s	in general
3804s	pretty big improvements
3807s	and i know there's examples of like okay
3809s	well it didn't go up for me or something
3810s	like that and and we're working on it i
3812s	swear it's not i don't want to dismiss
3814s	that at all but on the whole on average
3817s	fps has gone up quite a bit
3820s	um
3822s	and then on top of that so yeah a lot
3823s	sometimes it comes from even just
3825s	changing like spell effects
3827s	uh that are old spell effects and
3829s	sometimes it'll like look a lot nicer
3830s	and be better performance at the same
3832s	time and it's kind of like
3834s	how did that happen
3836s	um
3837s	and it's it's really it's i guess it's
3839s	something to
3840s	help um illustrate the fact that just
3843s	because it looks better doesn't mean
3844s	it's more or less performant
3846s	um
3847s	a lot a lot of times you'll see
3849s	you'll see things that are
3851s	that look better and are more performant
3853s	which is happening a ton right now in a
3855s	lot of the effects we're generating and
3856s	developing because we've learned a lot
3858s	since when we started
3860s	um
3861s	and
3863s	we've also got we've been doing audits
3866s	uh what one of one of our developers
3868s	recently did an audit of
3871s	um
3874s	every level in the entire game
3876s	uh to check fps and
3878s	we've created heat maps of all the
3880s	levels
3881s	um we would like develop some new tools
3883s	for it create heat maps for showing
3885s	where major fps problems are in maps um
3889s	tools to check for major fps drops in
3892s	um
3895s	uh with it with certain abilities um
3898s	you know like we're we're creating a lot
3900s	of tools for fixing these these things
3902s	and um
3904s	some zones have already had this had
3906s	this done to them where we've like
3907s	implemented some fixes based on where
3909s	the problems are and we've seen some
3911s	very significant improvements and that's
3912s	stuff that's not out yet
3920s	so yeah
3922s	i don't know if they wanted if they want
3923s	to be have their name put out there but
3925s	there is one person who you can all
3926s	thank a lot for a lot of this
3929s	uh
3931s	and one day they might they might step
3933s	forward and be like it was me
3935s	but they're awesome
3937s	if they're watching thank you you're
3939s	awesome
3951s	but a lot of people have been putting a
3952s	lot of work into it overall so it's
3956s	it is a definite important thing for us
3969s	no problem
3971s	no problem there hey bud
3975s	just getting her done
3978s	i need to check and see if i have a
3979s	helmet
3980s	just like relaxing
3982s	poison res is weak but i'm not doing
3984s	pretty good uh i might see if i can get
3986s	some poison reds on my helmet then
3989s	i find it elsewhere to be honest
4002s	impossible
4004s	unlikely
4005s	[Music]
4007s	you'd like that wouldn't you
4012s	this is my impressions of the prime list
4023s	all right
4024s	let's get another question going on here
4028s	uh will what will cycles bring new
4030s	blessings new bosses drops new bosses
4032s	yeah i mean uh possibly any of those
4035s	things possibly all those things
4036s	possibly other things as well um
4041s	we will be
4043s	like there might be new dungeons there
4045s	might be new mechanics all together
4047s	there might be new new endgame bosses
4049s	there might be new um timelines there
4052s	might be new styles of echoes there
4053s	might be new items there might be new
4055s	skills there might be changes to skills
4057s	there might be
4058s	um
4060s	you know new mtx they'll show up as well
4062s	there might be
4066s	really could be anything it could be a
4067s	boat you know how much you want one of
4068s	those
4073s	uh
4074s	with multiplayer does hg plan to have um
4077s	more cycled content outside of dungeons
4080s	uh like reward cycling uh
4082s	by daysta oh i see what you're saying so
4085s	like um
4087s	we're at the start of every dungeon
4088s	every every day the like the dungeon
4090s	daily reward changes
4092s	um
4093s	i we haven't really
4095s	taken that idea and expanded it anywhere
4097s	else yet i really like it i think it's
4099s	something that we can use a little bit
4100s	more um i wouldn't want to use it
4102s	everywhere but i think it's something
4104s	that we could use
4112s	i know notice performance is better i
4113s	play on linux oh it runs great for me
4115s	this last batch that's great to hear we
4117s	do not do a lot of testing on linux i'll
4119s	tell you that much
4121s	um
4122s	we
4123s	we we love that we can that the game is
4125s	playable on linux um
4128s	and we wish we could put more time and
4129s	effort into making linux a really
4131s	stellar experience
4132s	um
4135s	but like
4137s	unfortunately the problem is that most
4138s	of us work in windows
4140s	partially because the unity editor works
4142s	way better in windows than it does in
4145s	linux um
4147s	and so we a lot of the little things
4149s	that crop up we don't see until we go to
4151s	like run a test
4153s	at all because like a lot of the times
4154s	um any bug that's like a windows
4156s	specific bug we'll see while we're
4158s	making it right away you know
4162s	um
4163s	and so and most of the testing happens
4165s	on on windows and
4167s	you know so any linux specific bugs
4169s	don't really get found until sometimes
4171s	it's too late for a patch to go out type
4174s	thing
4176s	but we do our best to keep it as
4177s	up-to-date and stable and
4179s	looking good as we can um and there was
4182s	there was a change that happened pretty
4183s	recently about performance on this i'm
4184s	glad it's working for you
4186s	um
4187s	if you see anyone having trouble with it
4191s	don't hesitate to give them a hand on
4193s	the forums or anything
4195s	if you so choose
4200s	i'm just gonna do this
4208s	to be fair there's already a boat you
4210s	get on when you kill harton spoiler
4211s	alert jeez hello
4214s	but yes
4222s	i think someone may have pressed enter a
4225s	little too soon if you have a question
4226s	for me please put at last epoch game in
4228s	the question i'll see it a lot easier uh
4230s	it's going to be another thing let's see
4232s	what should stay i love it
4234s	keep them coming uh another thing would
4236s	you guys ever put more content in
4239s	grabbing heaps of gold bounties
4241s	challenge dailies of some sort i don't
4242s	know if you plan to have semi
4244s	directional content like that hmm
4247s	um
4248s	[Music]
4249s	we had like so we actually had some
4251s	stuff like that planned a while ago we
4253s	pulled it out
4254s	um
4256s	that's something i could see making a
4257s	comeback
4260s	um
4263s	having more things to do in monoliths i
4266s	think is a really important gap
4269s	to fill and i think that's something
4271s	that is it's pretty clear is a gap
4273s	um
4275s	it's not an easy thing to to to just fix
4279s	just to do
4280s	but um anything that does help with that
4282s	i think is a very valuable
4285s	option
4292s	here's the follow-up question that i
4293s	assume is of paramount importance
4297s	uh will we add steam achievements to the
4299s	game yeah we'll add steam achievements
4305s	um
4307s	not sure when that'll happen but yeah
4308s	steam achievements are coming
4315s	and also add that i really dislike steam
4317s	achievements that are
4320s	um
4321s	like log in during this event
4324s	where you just like if you weren't
4326s	playing the game at that time it's
4327s	impossible 100 the game as far as
4329s	achievements go you know
4331s	um
4332s	so i'll push back on those
4335s	if if anyone pitch one no it's pitched
4337s	one of those i don't know why i'm saying
4338s	push back
4344s	if anyone were to pitch one of those
4346s	i'd push back on it
4349s	is the game getting dynamic maps um
4352s	so that is so i understand what you mean
4354s	by that and um um actually we
4357s	technically already do have some now um
4360s	yeah i it's something that we want to
4361s	add in and we are still working on
4365s	perfecting that and making it work
4367s	properly and
4368s	there's a lot that goes into that behind
4369s	the scenes that is
4371s	very dangerous to have very bad problems
4374s	to come up afterwards um
4379s	and this is this
4381s	this is another one of those like
4383s	okay you know back to this question
4385s	forever ago in the stream where it was
4386s	like what would you have done
4387s	differently
4388s	um designed random maps from the ground
4390s	up at the very start
4395s	i think that's that's the answer
4400s	i love having
4402s	curated content
4404s	um
4405s	i think that's really important
4407s	i think it's really important to have
4408s	both though
4412s	as we're seeing from a lot of feedback
4413s	we're getting right now
4419s	and then feedback does come from people
4421s	who have a lot more time in the game on
4423s	average
4424s	um
4429s	but i still think it's valuable and uh
4433s	personally i'd really like to see it as
4435s	well
4439s	still on the radar still i i will say
4441s	that i doubt we'll have any of it any
4443s	like traditional random maps for
4445s	uh 1.0 i'd say that would be a that
4447s	would be a big stretch something would
4449s	have to like the stars would have to
4450s	align
4451s	um but they've aligned before but you
4453s	know they don't align very often
4455s	um
4458s	like i know i i feel like i had this
4460s	conversation with people
4461s	uh a couple years ago and i was like
4464s	um
4465s	these these the icons the
4468s	bleed icons above like these icons right
4470s	here
4472s	the element icons below people's names
4474s	we people were asked about a year and a
4476s	half ago
4477s	you know people were asking for that and
4478s	i was like never going to happen we
4480s	can't do it no
4482s	uh and then we did and then it's got
4483s	this 15 plus cap where you can't see
4486s	this is 15 plus that could be 40. it
4487s	could be 80. it could be 200 it could be
4489s	15.
4490s	um and we're getting a lot of people
4493s	like
4494s	come on we want to get rid of that cap
4496s	um and i'm like no
4498s	uh we found a way to get rid of that cap
4502s	so you never you never know what's gonna
4503s	happen
4507s	that was that getting rid of that cap
4508s	was part of the ailment
4510s	uh redesigned redelight rework rejigging
4514s	twisting that i was talking about
4516s	earlier
4528s	give me that xp
4536s	everything is impossible until it's not
4538s	i like that
4556s	squirrels are just
4558s	like i am the butt kickers
4561s	yeah that's the squirrels are saying
4565s	like we heard you like butts being
4566s	kicked and i'm like yeah kick those
4567s	butts and they're like we're on it
4570s	no big deal
4571s	here we go butt kicking
4587s	they're like oh here i go bud kicking
4589s	again
4604s	speaking of filling those gaps in
4606s	monolith got any ideas that you guys are
4608s	discussing oh yeah
4610s	uh you've made this extremely modular
4613s	system after its first rework but it
4614s	seems to have been left in the state
4616s	with minor improvement with
4619s	left in that state with minor
4620s	improvements yeah i'm wondering what
4622s	could possibly be next yeah i i don't
4624s	want to
4627s	speak with too many specifics on this
4628s	because a lot of the stuff
4630s	so i think that overall
4634s	um
4635s	i think that overall
4639s	the model is a really solid system i
4641s	think it's i think it's got a lot of
4642s	really great features in the progression
4644s	the meta progressions that it has
4646s	overall with with um
4648s	getting your your blessings and then
4649s	your greater blessings um
4652s	the
4653s	the the agency in the content you're
4655s	you're playing with with the echo web
4657s	itself um i think there's a lot of
4660s	really good stuff there and i i
4663s	think that we could and i i
4665s	i know there's a lot of feedback we're
4667s	getting about things that the wallet is
4668s	missing
4670s	and i and and we definitely agree
4672s	um
4674s	i think for the most part
4677s	uh there's other things that are more
4679s	important
4681s	and um
4683s	we're working on those first sort of the
4685s	short answer
4686s	um
4689s	so i don't wanna say like oh yes this
4691s	feature
4691s	we're going to do because it might be
4693s	quite a while before that feature comes
4694s	in
4695s	um
4698s	i don't know when there's any changes to
4699s	the model happening but yeah there's
4700s	definitely gaps especially in
4703s	reasons to like okay here
4706s	down here i have no reason to go down
4707s	there right now
4708s	like sure i can i can get extra
4710s	stability by killing more things
4712s	um i'll get more gear add more loot at
4714s	the end chest if i go down there so
4716s	there's some like minor things down
4717s	there
4718s	but
4719s	for most people it's just a no-brainer
4721s	you wouldn't go down there there's no
4722s	reason
4724s	go this way because the the objectives
4726s	this way right
4727s	um
4729s	and i think that's the biggest gap is
4731s	the
4732s	reason to explore and so
4735s	the the key thing that path of exile
4737s	does to to make that happen there's
4739s	there's two main there's two main things
4740s	about things one of them is the resource
4743s	required to enter this zone is limited
4747s	and
4748s	um there's a maximum value you can get
4750s	out of that resource
4753s	i'm talking about maps here so you have
4755s	a map you were trying to get this map
4757s	it's this valuable key to get into this
4758s	dungeon
4760s	and as soon as you leave the dungeon you
4762s	you can't go back in
4763s	um and it was six portals
4766s	but once you're finished with the
4766s	dungeons done so so completing the whole
4769s	thing
4771s	is
4772s	the incentive is just getting full value
4774s	out of what you've invested already
4779s	and it kind of plays a little into a
4781s	sunken cost fallacy
4783s	but not not completely
4785s	[Music]
4788s	and
4789s	because you can just go into the next
4791s	echo and there's no real penalty for
4793s	wasting mobs in an echo
4796s	um
4798s	that that sort of natural incentive is
4800s	gone
4803s	um and so providing an alternate reason
4807s	to explore
4809s	um
4810s	and then this is or the other thing
4813s	those are really nice boots
4821s	yeah
4822s	those are really nice boots
4831s	huh okay we're gonna we're gonna craft
4833s	on those in a little bit
4835s	um
4837s	anyways uh so so the second thing that
4840s	um
4841s	excel does to to incentivize exploring
4843s	their
4844s	the map that you're in
4845s	um and this is something that we can do
4847s	a lot easier
4848s	is um lead content secondary lead
4851s	content that has a random chance to
4853s	appear so you can be in a map and
4855s	suddenly another map just opens in the
4857s	middle of it you can then go into that
4858s	one
4860s	um and having these like sub dungeons
4862s	that can that can randomly appear if you
4864s	explore
4866s	um
4866s	or just other things like that are
4868s	really useful in this in in the
4871s	grand scheme of
4872s	like let's make exploration fun in the
4874s	in the model echo
4878s	um so i think content like that would be
4880s	where we'd be looking
4882s	um
4883s	looking to expand to
4885s	earlier than later
4892s	but i can't give you like
4894s	details
4897s	look what that is i hope that hope that
4899s	helped
4900s	answer it uh hello guys one question
4903s	after the crafting system changes yeah
4905s	with forging potential being higher on
4907s	rare and exalted normal magic items
4910s	started being almost useless i'd agree
4912s	in the end game just in general really
4914s	disincentivizing crafting an item from
4916s	the beginning with less or no modifiers
4919s	do you guys have any plans to change
4921s	that i think it's okay as it is right
4922s	now
4925s	um
4927s	so there's there's no immediate plans to
4928s	change it i'll say that it's it's this
4930s	is not something that we're like okay
4932s	yep this is on the list of things we're
4933s	going to change
4934s	done
4936s	however i think that this sentiment is
4938s	fairly accurate and shared by a lot of
4941s	people
4943s	um because quite frequently and i don't
4945s	really know why it's not in this
4947s	actually but i'll
4949s	come in here and i'll do this
4951s	um
4952s	rarity
4954s	normal magic
4959s	and i'll just do that
4961s	like that's that's that's one of the
4963s	first things that goes my loot filters
4967s	um
4968s	i don't think that's a good thing
4971s	overall um
4976s	so i don't really have any news about
4977s	specific plans for that but um i would
4980s	agree that it is
4983s	maybe not the best thing
4987s	that we're basically telling people okay
4989s	magic and normal items are useless you
4991s	can ignore them and i don't know if
4993s	that's that there's a lot of different
4994s	ways you can change that so
4998s	um
4999s	because of our let's use double two as
5001s	an example
5002s	rent incoming um let's use dl2 as an
5004s	example you can't the only reason that
5007s	um
5008s	blue items in diablo 2 are
5011s	uh useful at all is because that there
5013s	are certain uh there's certain stats
5015s	that appear on those blue items in
5018s	higher values than they can appear on in
5020s	yellow items so um
5023s	i'm gonna make a mistake here and say
5025s	the wrong thing i'm sorry um
5027s	i use this one those things like i used
5029s	to know off by heart
5030s	but um
5032s	attack speed on gloves
5035s	i'm pretty sure can go to 30
5037s	on magic and only 20 on rare
5040s	could be wrong here i'm pretty sure
5044s	um
5045s	and so you sacrifice these extra mods
5047s	for getting more powerful mods
5050s	um
5051s	in in so you don't get to have six mods
5053s	that a rare item can have but you get to
5055s	have two mods in magic that are more
5057s	powerful because you care because that
5058s	extra 10 attack speed is worth those
5060s	extra four mods that you're giving up
5062s	um
5066s	and
5069s	it's getting a little dicey
5071s	um
5072s	because we have the ability to add
5074s	affixes to items we can never do that we
5077s	can never say
5078s	you know you never want on
5080s	an item to get worse when you craft on
5082s	it this is part of the reason for the
5083s	crafting changes we did recently you
5084s	mentioned um
5086s	is that when you finish a craft you
5087s	never want the item to be
5089s	like just a worse item than it was when
5091s	you started that craft um
5096s	and and i know i know the gotcha there
5098s	is like oh what about the ones that like
5099s	reroll which epics it is randomly okay
5101s	yes it can be worse overall but maybe
5103s	it's not worse for some specific builds
5105s	it's not strictly worse you know
5108s	um
5109s	so i'll use the term strictly worse
5111s	instead to get around that
5113s	um
5114s	so we don't we don't want items to get
5115s	just strictly worse when you when you
5117s	finish a craft um
5119s	and so adding a third affix so like
5122s	maybe you add one dexterity to an item
5125s	and
5126s	the and then one of the
5127s	the other two stats that are there drop
5130s	in value because it went from being a
5132s	blue item to a yellow item so we can't
5134s	we can't really do that there's no
5135s	elegant way to fix that problem as far
5137s	as we can tell
5138s	um
5139s	so the stats have to be consistent
5141s	across magic and rare items for us
5143s	um and then the way in diablo 2 that you
5145s	get um white items to be useful is rune
5148s	words because really without written
5149s	words white items are
5151s	right
5152s	um
5153s	it's the only reason you care about them
5154s	is is you stick a certain number sockets
5156s	in it you
5157s	um
5159s	put those runes in the right order and
5161s	you get a sweet item out of it um
5165s	and so apart from
5167s	having and then the other thing the
5168s	magic items are really good for as well
5169s	specific magic items are great for uh
5171s	crafting in dl2 which most people don't
5173s	even know about as a mechanic but is how
5176s	you get some of the most powerful gloves
5178s	amulets
5180s	boots
5181s	rings
5183s	in the game
5185s	belts you really nice belts too oh i got
5186s	a nice belt last last season oh it was
5189s	gorgeous anyways um
5191s	it was like my first craft and i'm just
5193s	like yeah let's just craft something and
5194s	see what happens and i'm like well i'm
5195s	done crafting for the season i'm belts
5198s	um anyways the
5202s	uh
5203s	where am i going with this yes so apart
5205s	so we
5206s	there's a few different ways we can
5208s	solve the problem one one way is by
5210s	um
5212s	just giving them more more fortune
5213s	potential and make the poor differential
5214s	not based on rarity um
5217s	and and give you the
5218s	the freedom to to put whatever you want
5221s	on them now they uh white items because
5223s	you can put any affix on them
5226s	they are more common to find one that
5228s	would be useful because they're just a
5229s	blank slate
5231s	and it's easier getting the right
5233s	affixes on an item is a tricky thing to
5235s	do and that's half of making a good item
5237s	is getting the right affixes on it if
5238s	the item starts off as white you're
5239s	guaranteed the right affix it's going to
5240s	just slap over as fast as you want on it
5242s	so you are trading that flexibility for
5245s	maximum potential
5246s	um and that trade-off might be a little
5248s	too high right now
5251s	especially considering the best items
5253s	are not yellow so that so you the only
5255s	the best items are purple
5257s	um
5258s	or
5259s	legendary items but you're getting the
5260s	purple items excluding uniques what
5262s	we're looking for as
5264s	um for some variant of a magic item
5267s	is exalted really and because you can't
5269s	craft exalted affixes onto an item
5271s	directly suddenly no matter how much
5273s	flexibility you have in that item it
5276s	still is not going to outweigh
5278s	uh
5280s	the
5281s	value of having the right exalted affix
5283s	on it
5286s	um
5288s	so all this is a very long-winded way of
5290s	saying
5291s	right now normal items and magic items
5294s	yeah they're kind of useless and we
5295s	don't have any concrete plans to make
5297s	them use full at the moment
5299s	but it would be nice
5300s	so maybe one day
5308s	all right back some questions i'm
5310s	probably behind a little bit now
5315s	uh oh you know what oh i'll do it i'll
5317s	do i'll answer a question i'll do it
5318s	after this um uh this one's done i got a
5320s	little teaser for you
5322s	a little teaser
5324s	uh uber thoughts for like a really high
5326s	or rare drop
5328s	maybe even a legendary job without
5329s	having to make one uh okay so right off
5331s	the bat i don't think we have plans to
5333s	have legendaries drop without having to
5335s	make them
5338s	maybe
5339s	one day type thing
5340s	but definitely not at one point now
5343s	um i shouldn't say definitely not
5345s	extremely unlikely at one point now
5347s	um anyways the as far as uber bosses are
5350s	concerned yeah that's something that is
5352s	i think really important
5354s	um
5355s	getting uber bosses in right having to
5358s	having the path to them be appropriate
5360s	having the
5361s	like the the narrative significance of
5363s	them be good um having that fit into the
5365s	storyline properly
5367s	um and the progression that you have in
5369s	endgame as well i think is really
5370s	important um
5371s	[Music]
5373s	having the
5374s	all these things are really key and
5375s	we're still working on exactly the best
5377s	way to do a lot of it
5380s	um but uber bosses are definitely in the
5382s	conversation and on the table uh
5384s	that's something that we're looking at
5386s	working on we just need to
5388s	you know figure out a few things with
5389s	them
5400s	did i run right past one of them
5402s	yeah i did
5404s	so observant you don't even know here
5407s	and we passed two of them tonight
5412s	what happens when i get rambling
5416s	uh i think that the
5418s	uber bosses having
5421s	um
5424s	the rewards for uber bosses is a really
5426s	tricky thing
5428s	because the reward has to be something
5429s	that matches the
5431s	gravitas of the accomplishments you know
5433s	it has to be like
5435s	like oh my god you beat that uber boss
5437s	and you got that that's cool
5441s	um i think it needs to be something that
5445s	you're pretty confident in it's going to
5447s	be useful for your character
5450s	um
5450s	[Music]
5452s	so having completing your boss and
5454s	getting a reward that is like okay well
5456s	great for this other character does
5457s	nothing for me kind of sucks
5460s	um
5467s	and and having things that are required
5470s	to
5471s	um turn certain builds online
5474s	i think
5475s	is not ideal because you don't want to
5478s	be like okay i'm making this build to do
5479s	this content
5480s	but i need to complete the content to do
5481s	the build and and and that deadlock you
5484s	don't want to happen
5486s	sorry uh that that conflict uh next
5488s	doublet's a fine term
5492s	deadlock is a programming term for when
5494s	two things are
5496s	wow
5502s	those are two nice boots in a row
5506s	we going to the shoe store here
5509s	i don't need that or that
5512s	or that
5514s	all right i was going to do stuff wasn't
5516s	i okay first of all
5523s	yeah here we go all right this is a
5526s	model for a new uh npc we actually
5529s	showed uh time lapse of the um concept
5532s	art being done
5534s	a little while ago
5536s	but um
5537s	yeah this is the
5541s	uh this is the finished version
5543s	the render with you know nice lighting
5545s	and everything this is what she looks
5547s	like in game this is keeper lina
5550s	i don't think that's a secret i hope
5551s	it's not
5553s	it was it's not anymore
5554s	[Laughter]
5557s	um
5558s	yeah
5564s	pretty cool
5566s	pretty cool
5569s	sorry i got mesmerized by the rotating
5570s	it's just tiny on my screen
5572s	uh
5575s	yeah i just gotta ask these deep cues
5576s	long time players so you know but most
5578s	so i know what's the basic stuff and
5579s	what to expect and what to expect as a
5582s	response yeah i know you've been around
5583s	for quite a while glad to have you here
5586s	let's do a little flip me to the other
5589s	side oh
5590s	i did not fix
5594s	mike what are you doing
5596s	what are you doing with your life huh
5600s	that'll be close going quite quite
5603s	if anyone knows how to zoom in on
5607s	streamlabs
5609s	obs
5612s	so you can see in finer detail how
5614s	you're editing let's see i just edit
5615s	moved the like
5617s	um
5618s	made this bigger so it lines up nicely
5620s	on this the corners i don't know how to
5622s	like zoom in on a section of your screen
5624s	in the preview so you can line things
5625s	like that up better i'd really
5627s	appreciate to know
5630s	every time i try and google it it's like
5632s	you want to connect zoom to obs i'm like
5634s	no i want to zoom in on the screen it's
5636s	like you want to zoom in on a section
5637s	while you're streaming and show people a
5638s	closer section of your screen no i want
5640s	to do it in the preview you want to
5642s	preview a zoomed in section on your
5643s	stream so you can see no
5646s	it doesn't like the word zoom sorry i
5648s	haven't been trying to do this for years
5649s	or anything
5652s	uh
5653s	right
5654s	as an rpg dev what do you think poe's
5657s	rare enemy modifier changes and the
5659s	community's reaction uh and how could
5661s	that influence last epoch's development
5663s	of rare monster months actually a
5664s	question about this recently i think it
5665s	was last week um
5669s	uh honestly i think it's i much prefer
5671s	having inch fewer more interesting mods
5674s	and i think what they're going for is
5675s	really good um
5677s	there may be a few
5679s	uh combinations that are
5682s	aggressively painful to deal
5684s	with um
5687s	and i
5688s	i'd be surprised if they don't do this
5690s	already or if they're going to start
5691s	doing this or something which is just
5692s	having certain ones that are mutually
5693s	exclusive with each other
5695s	uh which is something we already do
5696s	which we basically have them work as
5698s	like items where there's prefixes and
5700s	suffixes
5701s	and you can
5704s	like like you have so many prefix slots
5706s	and so many suffix slots on monster mods
5708s	and then you can
5710s	so you can't get
5712s	like
5713s	three prefixes at the same time because
5715s	it would i think it might even be just
5716s	one one prefix one stop express so you
5718s	can't just like all of the prefixes are
5720s	mutually exclusive with each other then
5721s	we have some that are also just mutually
5723s	exclusive on their own so you don't get
5725s	certain combinations i think um
5729s	and like diablo 3 had the same problem
5732s	uh big time with the like the chainers
5734s	and the wallers and the arcane it was
5736s	like like a chain wall arcane enchanted
5739s	i think was like the the perfect trinity
5741s	of you're screwed
5744s	um
5745s	[Music]
5748s	so yeah i i i think
5751s	i i i don't want to say much about the
5753s	reactions because i don't know much
5754s	about the reactions really i didn't pay
5756s	that close attention to them
5757s	um
5761s	but ggg has
5763s	an immense amount of experience in this
5765s	and i have no doubt that if there's a
5767s	problem with it they'll
5768s	find a good solution you know
5773s	okay those came out pretty good
5778s	oh
5779s	big hit on the forging potential right
5780s	off the bat
5782s	yeah done
5784s	these might still be better anyways
5785s	though that's the thing
5790s	more move speed
5794s	similar overall res i don't know which
5796s	ones we need more
5803s	i'm gonna put these on
5806s	i think those are my choice
5811s	keep going full steam ahead with our new
5813s	boots
5815s	we're walking
5816s	and we're walking
5823s	uh
5824s	will you change the reperform in the
5826s	future so it shows your equipped weapon
5828s	instead of the two-handed scythe or the
5831s	two individual sites sorry i think it's
5832s	a shame having so good looking weapon
5834s	models but if you play literally perform
5836s	you will not see them most of the time
5837s	that's an interesting uh
5841s	i i honestly i don't think i've thought
5843s	of that recently at least
5847s	um
5850s	yeah there's something to be said for
5851s	the like aesthetics of being in
5853s	re-perform
5855s	and having it match but then so many of
5857s	the weapons you're using and we perform
5859s	do match and have really good aesthetics
5860s	in the ring perform
5862s	um
5864s	i don't know it's a great question
5865s	though
5868s	i like the idea
5872s	my gut reaction is oh yeah we don't do
5873s	that i wonder why
5885s	these squirrels
5892s	with the leader river
5899s	they found her on a boat
5901s	drifting the dark
5906s	with her brother
5909s	brother didn't make it spoiler alert
5929s	sorry this has been asked many times
5930s	questions don't forget to at last epoch
5932s	game in the question i'll answer it uh
5933s	sorry this asks many times my man but is
5935s	there an eta on co-op
5937s	multiplayer is in development i do not
5940s	have a specific time for it um
5944s	oh did we just find even better boots
5949s	oh
5953s	those are interesting boots there's no
5956s	there's no movement speed second stat
5957s	there
5961s	but a t6 and a high t6 and a high t7
5964s	roll
5966s	strength and vitality
5973s	it's a lot it's a lot of both
5982s	oh it's just
5984s	okay
5986s	i don't know why but we're finding some
5987s	nice boots right now what am i doing
5989s	it's not this way
5992s	it is known
5997s	uh
5999s	reddit was molding
6004s	freaking out
6005s	freaking out man
6019s	i will say this after working on this my
6023s	reactions to other
6025s	other games
6026s	uh has been has been tempered a lot
6030s	like i see things that i'm like that
6031s	would have made me so angry before
6035s	nothing just nothing anymore
6052s	i don't think i've ever
6054s	gone on gigantic tirades or anything
6056s	like that on
6058s	like social media or anything but like
6060s	i've been upset on certain changes
6061s	balance changes for various games it's
6064s	happened
6070s	i feel nothing
6089s	all right is there something we do to
6091s	bring in the old crafting system no
6094s	although it was annoying in breaking uh
6096s	your value items let's be honest it was
6098s	nail biting which was part of the fun
6100s	yeah like so yeah there were a lot of
6102s	really good things about the old
6102s	crafting system for sure
6105s	and and we hung onto it for a very long
6107s	time
6108s	um
6111s	and
6114s	i
6115s	i i i don't know if we could have fixed
6118s	it to to really present nicely
6122s	but there was some there were some core
6123s	problems with it
6125s	and um
6127s	i i was a i'm a huge fan of the old
6128s	style crafting system um
6130s	for anyone who doesn't know there's
6132s	there's just like a growing chance for
6134s	you to just break the item every time
6136s	you crafted on it
6137s	um and when it was just out of like
6141s	when it did break there was a chance
6142s	that it actually like broke the item and
6144s	made it
6145s	actually worse like it would actually
6147s	take the stats off of the item when you
6149s	fail the craft
6151s	and that could happen right out of the
6153s	gate it could be like 99 chance of
6155s	success
6156s	brick
6158s	um
6160s	and
6163s	almost every day i saw a new post
6168s	that was something along the lines of
6169s	crafting system chances like the the um
6173s	the numbers you see
6174s	for like the the chances of something
6176s	happening they used to have like percent
6177s	chance to break the item or whatever um
6180s	and those numbers
6182s	are wrong or like are not showing the
6184s	real numbers here's my data to prove
6185s	that those numbers are wrong and like
6187s	almost every day i'd see a post like
6188s	that um
6191s	and we
6193s	really validated it the numbers were not
6195s	wrong
6196s	numbers were very right but this the way
6199s	that it presented the information to
6200s	players it was it's just something that
6203s	like people can't really
6206s	um
6209s	wrap their heads around properly of like
6211s	what those chances actually mean
6213s	and how they feel when you're
6214s	interacting with them
6216s	and this is when i say people i'm really
6217s	not saying even people to play our game
6219s	or like any specific person at all like
6221s	this is just humans in general are bad
6224s	at this type of task
6226s	we're all batted i'm bad at it every
6227s	single one of us are bad at it and
6230s	it's it's this like
6234s	inability to like
6236s	to really process what's happening
6238s	um based on chance systems and it's it's
6240s	part of what makes gambling so addictive
6243s	and
6244s	uh
6245s	so difficult to gauge how you're
6247s	actually doing and why people end up
6248s	with gambling addictions and things like
6250s	that um
6253s	and and like we're just we're just
6255s	really bad at uh
6259s	like comprehending those numbers and
6260s	what they mean and and the the feedback
6263s	we get from those numbers and how it
6264s	works
6267s	um
6269s	i came very close to
6272s	like
6272s	putting in fake things to like cheat in
6276s	the player's favor
6277s	you know
6280s	um
6283s	and
6284s	and instead instead we just changed the
6285s	whole system because we realized that it
6287s	was never going to be working right
6289s	um
6291s	but i don't think bringing it back is a
6292s	good idea
6294s	even as an optional thing
6295s	um
6296s	so maybe i could see it being like a
6298s	dungeon reward or something like that be
6300s	a weird dungeon reward but i could see
6302s	it being something like that
6303s	um as like a mechanic that showed up
6308s	but as like a day-to-day thing just
6310s	normal crafting nah it's it's gone
6323s	uh do you guys hire people from other
6324s	countries to work from home oh
6326s	absolutely um
6328s	i'm from another country
6330s	uh i'm not in the states myself so
6333s	technically our like company is uh based
6336s	out of the states and
6338s	uh but i i live in canada
6340s	um which i know is
6341s	the least other country you can get from
6343s	the states you know but um technically a
6346s	different country right
6347s	um
6349s	but no we've got we've got people
6350s	working in like throw a dart at a map
6352s	and we've probably got someone working
6353s	in that country
6354s	um
6358s	partially because you've got people
6358s	working in the biggest countries so you
6360s	know it's easy to hit those ones
6362s	um
6362s	but yeah there's there's people all over
6364s	europe um there's there's people in asia
6367s	there's people in oceania or however you
6369s	want to delineate the globe there's
6370s	people basically everywhere um
6374s	people south america lots of people in
6376s	south america actually
6377s	um
6378s	yeah we try to have people working
6381s	mostly on a similar time zone um
6384s	so a lot of the people who do work in uh
6386s	really far away places from sort of like
6389s	epoch time
6391s	tend to work in the evenings or in the
6394s	mornings or
6396s	um you know not everyone has to do that
6398s	but there's a lot of people that i'm
6400s	sure work weird hours
6402s	um
6405s	yeah we got people all over the world
6407s	it's actually really cool because you
6409s	you there's a lot of
6411s	like
6412s	we see it sometimes in like when we're
6414s	designing
6415s	uh new elements for the game whether
6417s	it's like new skills or whether it's
6418s	just new visuals for something or new
6420s	mechanics or all sorts of things there's
6422s	all these different things that um
6424s	people from different countries bring
6425s	together that i think makes really
6427s	interesting uh a really interesting game
6429s	really interesting discussions
6431s	um and it's always fun to just like
6433s	learn about other cultures sort of
6434s	through osmosis of like oh it's this
6436s	holiday in this country right now oh i
6438s	didn't know that was a thing wonder what
6439s	that's about um
6442s	and then there's also fun stuff like uh
6444s	carve and i uh we we we jab back and
6447s	forth about hockey a whole bunch
6449s	um
6450s	and uh like those the the world
6452s	championships just happened and carf won
6454s	this round you know um that's okay uh so
6458s	we we go back and forth about that so
6460s	which which is really fun um
6463s	they've actually been on a hot streak
6465s	lately
6472s	i don't care what the original question
6473s	was i really like working with people
6475s	from all over the world it's awesome
6482s	and yeah we do it a lot yeah it's about
6483s	hiring people from other countries yes
6485s	we do
6487s	which is a lot easier because we're
6488s	fully remote
6490s	there's no there's no studio there's no
6492s	office
6501s	we have more people on uh
6503s	america's time zone than anywhere else
6506s	um but part of that is just because it's
6508s	a lot easier to find people who can
6510s	work in that time zone
6514s	um
6515s	like you can we can work those hours
6518s	comfortably
6524s	yeah actually right from square one
6525s	we've had people in europe
6528s	and asia actually right from the very
6530s	beginning
6531s	europe asia and north america
6535s	here's harton
6540s	let's go buddy
6542s	done
6544s	i was quick pop all the cooldowns that's
6546s	what happens
6551s	okay here we go again
6553s	uh a lot of people have talked about
6555s	damage weighting in skills versus gear
6557s	yeah it's been a hot topic recently
6559s	absolutely we actually talked about this
6561s	uh
6562s	yesterday in our design meeting uh i've
6564s	seen uh i've seen
6566s	i've even seen take part in discussions
6569s	about it on discord uh has the team
6571s	gathered to discuss using a scalpel and
6574s	shifting this damage waiting at all yeah
6575s	i think it's a great way of phrasing it
6577s	uh in short have y'all looked at slash
6579s	discuss the character power distribution
6580s	in last epoch lately i kind of answered
6582s	that as
6583s	as i was going there sorry but yeah
6585s	definitely um
6589s	uh
6590s	and and i don't i don't want to we
6591s	haven't done the changes yet we've
6593s	discussed it we've done the changes yet
6594s	so i don't want to
6595s	um
6597s	talk too much about what we decided just
6599s	because
6600s	uh
6601s	i don't want the narrative to shift to
6603s	like oh they're making this huge change
6604s	that's this when well we're testing that
6607s	change and
6608s	who knows if we'll actually do it or not
6610s	and i just realized i'm way over the
6612s	stability requirements to complete this
6613s	echo so i'm just gonna warp out and
6617s	uh try the boss in 10 minutes
6620s	um
6624s	basically uh like you you've ordered it
6627s	great how you boarded it and it is
6629s	definitely a scalpel and not a
6630s	sledgehammer
6632s	uh approach that we're taking to it
6634s	um
6636s	but yeah there's
6637s	there's a bit there's a bit of a
6638s	disconnect in in though in the
6640s	distribution there and it affects all
6642s	sorts of things in the game and
6644s	um we're looking at how best we can
6647s	affect those uh systems
6650s	um
6652s	without causing huge changes
6655s	uh elsewhere and you know like
6657s	there's a lot of systems that are
6659s	compounded together
6660s	um and making changes to one can have
6663s	big changes elsewhere so we're trying to
6665s	be a little careful
6667s	uh to not
6668s	have too many knock-on effect problems
6672s	um
6674s	but yes the short answer is yes
6679s	we're looking at it
6689s	get him
6693s	uh here we're gonna actually remember
6694s	this one first
6701s	come on boys this way
6703s	u2 river
6707s	i better still have river
6710s	if i don't i'm gonna be so sad
6717s	before the end of the stream we'll uh
6718s	we'll take stock and make sure river's
6719s	still with us
6730s	this is interesting jumping over gaps
6732s	see maybe there's something as you can
6733s	jump over them sometimes you can't and
6734s	like so this gap
6736s	um you can't jump over this gap but you
6738s	can
6741s	i should be able to jump over this gap
6742s	even though it's essentially the same
6743s	distance
6744s	it's because it looks at the total
6746s	distance difference to walk around
6751s	it's not actually about the distance
6752s	you're jumping
6762s	for fun facts
6772s	i'll be able to cancel that
6774s	it's so nice
6776s	so nice
6786s	all right another question here also do
6790s	you like reading because i think i wrote
6792s	at least the length of a children's book
6793s	at this point oh i've read a lot of
6795s	children's books recently it's way
6797s	longer than any children's book out
6799s	there for sure
6800s	i guess baby books not children's books
6802s	more accurate but still either way
6806s	you had to take multiple clips of my
6808s	answers glad to glad that they are
6809s	clip-worthy answers
6813s	can i get around this rack never i i i
6815s	don't do the quest echoes very often so
6817s	i never remember exactly what it is i
6819s	don't have to go down
6822s	another spot to go first
6826s	nope
6828s	whoops
6844s	give me that 200 gold
6850s	uh that's what i meant sorry maybe
6851s	adding into a dungeon to bring in unique
6853s	number on affix high risk high reward
6858s	yeah oh yeah yeah with the old crafting
6860s	system
6863s	yeah i could i could see something like
6864s	that happening as a dungeon reward it's
6868s	if we did do it i think we would have
6870s	fairly significant changes to the system
6872s	as a whole it wouldn't just be like oh
6874s	we're bringing it back it would be like
6876s	some would be like hey wait a minute
6877s	isn't this kind of similar to that thing
6879s	they used to do
6880s	um i feel like that would be the
6883s	the perception of it that's what i would
6885s	hope it would be anyways
6887s	oh my god these guys have we've recently
6889s	redesigned these the soul furnaces oh my
6892s	god they look amazing now
6896s	they look so cool now
6899s	they're like they've hit that uncanny
6902s	valley to the point where you're just
6903s	like you look at them and go ugh
6905s	okay
6911s	in a good way i promise
6913s	at least i think it's a good way
6917s	oh this is uh
6918s	the spicy one
6925s	i already got one this way let's go this
6926s	way first
6930s	it's a long ways out come on we're
6932s	trying to get here before we got five
6934s	minutes to the boss and this is not
6936s	gonna make it
6941s	run mike run
6946s	we might extend a little bit to the boss
6949s	we'll see
6967s	got him
6968s	time to get the heck out of dodge
6973s	all right next question
6975s	what's a big topic you guys are thinking
6978s	on or working on besides multiplayer i
6980s	mean
6981s	uh the cop-out answer here is is
6983s	performance that's definitely the next
6984s	biggest thing
6986s	um
6990s	i mean
6991s	yeah that's that's the next biggest
6992s	thing there's
6993s	um
6994s	there's performance there's multiplayer
6996s	there's the missing classes
6998s	um
7002s	apart from just more of everything else
7003s	that we have in the game already there's
7004s	not much else that that's going to go in
7007s	um
7009s	no i shouldn't say that
7012s	those are the big things that we're
7013s	ready
7014s	to share about
7031s	bees more bees
7034s	yeah be prepared
7046s	all right come on
7048s	power through you got this plurals
7050s	squirrely dan i believe in you
7053s	oh one of the squirrels need to be
7054s	called dan
7059s	even watch leonard kenny yet
7065s	sure as he's been real funny
7077s	all right i played this game back in the
7078s	alpha when it was on kickstarter i
7079s	remember thinking ooh
7080s	remember thinking
7083s	something it had a lot of potential yeah
7084s	cool thanks i have to say the potential
7086s	of this game has skyrocketed i believe
7088s	it's it'll be an amazing game if it
7090s	isn't already thank you very much i
7092s	appreciate that
7093s	i think it's an amazing game already but
7095s	i'm extremely biased
7109s	speed run strat to go to jump in the
7111s	echo to the thing
7117s	we're doing it we're so close to the end
7119s	stream's ending in two minutes but you
7121s	know we're going for the boss
7128s	i'll embrace the flame if you do first
7136s	be engulfed
7149s	so many promises you can't keep buddy
7159s	eternal flame
7164s	embrace the flame
7168s	yeah that rx flesh needs to be uh you
7171s	will be
7172s	fixed
7175s	erupt
7177s	burn to ashy engulf
7180s	no
7181s	the flame is
7183s	fading
7191s	there we go
7193s	all right oh minion damage that's gotta
7196s	be it right
7198s	yeah god we made you damage
7202s	did we get the uh yeah bob's wrath too
7204s	nice
7212s	all right
7215s	last one for the road will make it easy
7216s	any trips planned for the summer nah
7219s	i might i might go an extremely short
7222s	distance that's technically a trip
7223s	because we have to stay overnight
7225s	to my mother's house
7228s	that'll be about it next time we will
7230s	work on one of the other two we'll get
7231s	this one into i might play another bill
7232s	i don't know we might do may jump around
7234s	with builds i had a ton of fun with this
7235s	build um i do still want to try and get
7238s	this legendary so we might play some
7239s	more of it love that we found some
7240s	awesome boots
7245s	i hope you had fun i know i did that'll
7248s	about do it for me today uh let's go
7250s	head over and say hi to someone if you
7254s	got a little
7257s	uh if you have any more questions that i
7259s	did not answer please feel free to head
7260s	on over to our discord reddit forums
7263s	anywhere like that i will try and answer
7266s	those questions as best i can

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