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| 5s | good afternoon everybody welcome back to |
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| 7s | the last epoch devstream as always |
| 11s | i'm your host mike |
| 12s | how's it going everybody happy to be |
| 15s | here just gonna hop right back in |
| 19s | we are |
| 20s | we're still rocking our marksman i'm |
| 21s | having a lot of fun with this marksman |
| 23s | so we're just gonna keep rolling with it |
| 24s | uh we had a |
| 25s | a very difficult fight in the arena at |
| 28s | the end of the last stream that we |
| 29s | barely survived we're gonna start back |
| 31s | in the age of winter |
| 32s | monolith here trying to get into |
| 34s | empowered soon |
| 35s | and actually like to like to actually |
| 37s | push this character a little bit higher |
| 38s | which would be nice |
| 41s | um and as always because we're severely |
| 42s | under level we're going to be taking |
| 44s | experience nodes first |
| 48s | oh you may notice uh we have a new |
| 50s | charity up here um |
| 53s | so we switched over saint jude's uh |
| 55s | children's research hospital i think |
| 57s | that's what what it was um |
| 60s | and i can say actually oh i'll probably |
| 62s | say this again a little bit later on |
| 63s | just because there's not a lot of people |
| 65s | here yet we'll get some more people |
| 66s | later but i'll say it again um |
| 69s | we finished our two month campaign for |
| 72s | unicef for children relief fund for |
| 74s | ukraine uh we raised the community |
| 77s | raised uh 1 |
| 79s | 525.42 cents |
| 81s | um and and so we said we would match |
| 83s | that but it was a little bit lower than |
| 85s | we were we were hoping for so we just we |
| 87s | bumped it up a little bit and matched it |
| 89s | so we're donating a total of thirty five |
| 91s | hundred dollars |
| 92s | uh for for that charity so that's that's |
| 95s | the result of that which is great |
| 98s | um |
| 99s | hopefully that they can do some |
| 101s | some some work uh saving some children |
| 104s | you know |
| 105s | those people that |
| 107s | don't quite have the resources and |
| 108s | experiences to handle things on their |
| 110s | own just yet |
| 117s | i do quite like the uh recent children's |
| 120s | theme for the charity |
| 122s | it works for me i don't actually have to |
| 124s | pick them but uh i've been quite happy |
| 126s | with that focus recently |
| 132s | so yeah i'm just gonna keep going with |
| 133s | this and uh |
| 137s | power through some |
| 139s | some monolith hopefully getting to |
| 140s | empowered maybe not this pat or this |
| 142s | stream but maybe next stream we also at |
| 145s | the uh |
| 147s | on the on the back half of this stream |
| 149s | as we as we finish up i will be hopping |
| 152s | over to i guess it's kind of like an |
| 154s | extended stream so we're going to be |
| 156s | spending an hour after this is over with |
| 158s | aaron over on the action rpg stream and |
| 161s | we'll be designing a unique live so if |
| 162s | you're interested in um seeing a unique |
| 164s | get designed live |
| 166s | stick around for that |
| 169s | it'll be on his channel but you know |
| 171s | i'll be raiding him and everything |
| 174s | these are actually interesting boots |
| 175s | um the attunements kind of |
| 178s | meh with the strength but like |
| 181s | i don't know |
| 183s | it's got a significant amount of forging |
| 185s | potential so it feels kind of like a |
| 186s | blank canvas to work with |
| 191s | those are actually those are actually |
| 192s | interesting boots |
| 194s | strength in the war gen is a little |
| 195s | disjointed i don't know |
| 202s | if i can get |
| 204s | uh |
| 207s | if i if i can get the tuna to turn into |
| 210s | move speed i think that's this thing |
| 211s | that's pretty prefixed |
| 215s | seal these two man yeah that's a bit |
| 216s | weird |
| 217s | i'd probably chaos it |
| 219s | not happening |
| 222s | but stealing it ceiling it's a good idea |
| 224s | actually as well |
| 225s | it's probably a higher chance of getting |
| 226s | the slot back with sealing it then |
| 228s | chaosing it i just like to roll the dice |
| 230s | you know |
| 239s | almost one of the other ones first to |
| 241s | see what you get |
| 245s | or or do a discovery on the rest first |
| 248s | so that you can uh if there is a |
| 250s | crit that happens with it you're less |
| 253s | likely to accidentally upgrade when you |
| 255s | when you are |
| 256s | trying to seal |
| 258s | the attunement and it gets an upgrade if |
| 260s | it crits it can it'll just like pump |
| 261s | itself up again and get one less shot at |
| 263s | the |
| 264s | ceiling |
| 275s | oh yeah and if this is your first time |
| 277s | here um please just do an at-last epoch |
| 280s | game in the question and i will see it |
| 282s | and answer your question if you have any |
| 284s | questions please feel free to ask those |
| 285s | i |
| 287s | do my best |
| 288s | i do see a |
| 291s | message from a first time viewer which |
| 293s | reminded me to say that |
| 294s | and i will |
| 295s | read it fully in a second here and not |
| 297s | die |
| 302s | it says heyo thanks for that podcast |
| 304s | thing with zizerin i love how you engage |
| 306s | with the community you're welcome i had |
| 307s | fun with that that was great |
| 309s | um yes a little |
| 312s | interview |
| 323s | heavy saying just to reroll it yeah |
| 325s | because they have a smaller affix pool |
| 327s | it does it they are you're right you are |
| 329s | definitely right that it is a smaller |
| 330s | affix pool i i |
| 332s | wasn't taking that into account |
| 354s | some of my friends recently |
| 356s | uh oh i got a question here i'll answer |
| 358s | the question instead of rambling |
| 361s | uh which existing mastery class do you |
| 363s | think needs the most work and what about |
| 366s | it would you like to see changed |
| 369s | good question um |
| 372s | so it's mastery class specifically is |
| 375s | the question |
| 376s | um |
| 380s | weirdly enough the two that are coming |
| 381s | to mind are sorcerer and beastmaster |
| 386s | uh those are the two that are coming to |
| 387s | mind the most and part of that's because |
| 389s | beastmaster has that sabertooth and bear |
| 392s | someone say we're treating someone bear |
| 393s | nodes that are kind of like |
| 396s | the whole trees are just they're really |
| 397s | old the visuals need to be updated on |
| 399s | them like everything about those needs |
| 401s | to be done and that's like |
| 403s | that's two-fifths of that mastery really |
| 406s | um |
| 408s | and also just because druid had such a |
| 410s | big recent change it does look a little |
| 412s | bad compared by comparison um |
| 415s | sorcerer i mean doesn't have the third |
| 418s | mastery yet so it has less secondary |
| 420s | options and this and the the secondary |
| 423s | class or master that is there spellblade |
| 426s | is kinda |
| 427s | distinct from it like there's there's a |
| 429s | fair bit of overlap but um |
| 431s | like one is specifically about big |
| 433s | long-range spells and they're |
| 434s | specifically about |
| 435s | closer short range spells so it's they |
| 437s | are a little at odds which makes it |
| 439s | tricky for secondary uh passive nodes to |
| 441s | really feel solid |
| 444s | um and then teleport's got some issues |
| 446s | uh there's just it's |
| 448s | i think there's been a lot of |
| 449s | conversation recently about mana uh |
| 451s | generation and usage rates on i think a |
| 454s | lot of it stems from sorcerer i know |
| 456s | it's not entirely but i think a lot of |
| 457s | that conversation stems from there |
| 459s | um |
| 464s | so i think those would be my answers um |
| 466s | there's definitely |
| 467s | work to be done on all of them |
| 471s | that's just the only those the two that |
| 473s | that come to mind immediately is having |
| 475s | two or more major |
| 477s | stand |
| 483s | okay move please |
| 485s | just you know look over there for a |
| 486s | second |
| 487s | huh |
| 488s | thank you |
| 491s | oh a taxi down there's nice |
| 493s | [Music] |
| 496s | hello |
| 497s | tunnel picklebacker |
| 499s | uh what uh nerd herb has what are you |
| 502s | going to ramble about oh what am i going |
| 504s | to ramble on |
| 506s | um some of my friends started playing um |
| 510s | a variant of wow recently |
| 513s | um called ascension which which gives |
| 517s | basically it's classless wow and i was i |
| 521s | was looking into it into it the like |
| 523s | the way they did it and like the |
| 525s | implications of it it was really |
| 526s | interesting because there's so many |
| 528s | skills and passives and there's so many |
| 530s | options to put things into in wow |
| 533s | they've got like humongous trees and |
| 537s | while i don't think it would ever work |
| 538s | as like a core game mode because it's |
| 540s | just it'd be overwhelming for so many |
| 542s | people um it was really cool to think |
| 544s | about it's like like a thought |
| 546s | experiment type thing |
| 548s | and it got me thinking about like doing |
| 550s | some sort of like temporary mode with |
| 552s | that or experimental mode with that for |
| 554s | us and like what things i would break in |
| 556s | epoch |
| 557s | um |
| 558s | immediately it was just like this is |
| 559s | this would be dumb this would just be |
| 561s | bad |
| 565s | there's so many things that like we can |
| 567s | only make because this is like |
| 568s | highlighting issues that i've looked at |
| 571s | before and reasons why i've been really |
| 572s | happy with |
| 573s | um |
| 576s | uh |
| 576s | having having skill trees be so |
| 578s | compartmentalized is because you can put |
| 579s | things on them that would be completely |
| 580s | broken op if they were combined with |
| 582s | just anything |
| 584s | so yeah |
| 586s | i thought it was cool |
| 596s | but after thinking about it for a while |
| 597s | i was like |
| 598s | i'd basically just make a warlock with |
| 600s | like healing so i could end battle rez |
| 607s | like if i could life tap and heal myself |
| 608s | at the same time |
| 619s | i used to have a uh |
| 621s | macro on my lifetime that would that |
| 622s | would whisper one of the healers when i |
| 624s | was using it and just be like i'm life |
| 626s | tapping heal me |
| 630s | [Music] |
| 634s | oh |
| 635s | look at that |
| 636s | [Music] |
| 638s | normally doing fire no lp on it but yeah |
| 641s | it's a very cool bow |
| 647s | oh that's a spicy meatball |
| 650s | run away |
| 657s | vinegar |
| 658s | asks do you build your own filters |
| 659s | in-game or to use pre-built ones from |
| 661s | last epoch tool's website um well |
| 664s | my filter right now is extremely basic i |
| 666s | did build it myself i think it's two |
| 668s | lines |
| 669s | um |
| 671s | it's just like take away the white items |
| 673s | and |
| 675s | i may have put something else in there |
| 679s | okay i just hide the white blue items |
| 681s | that's all i did |
| 682s | um |
| 685s | i probably should have it more strict |
| 687s | uh |
| 688s | when i've when i've like played like i |
| 691s | don't play that much on on this on this |
| 692s | character on the stream so it's just a |
| 694s | couple hours a week so i don't really |
| 696s | feel the need to make a complicated uh |
| 697s | filter for it |
| 698s | [Music] |
| 700s | but i usually will like slap in a couple |
| 702s | basic things like just highlight me some |
| 704s | items that have |
| 706s | just that or the other that i'm really |
| 707s | looking for so i know to look at quickly |
| 711s | but there's some really nice filters |
| 712s | that people have made |
| 714s | last time i made my own i actually used |
| 716s | i think heavy has a |
| 718s | uh like a starter filter that you can |
| 720s | kind of like work off of |
| 723s | that's what i used last time |
| 732s | one day i hope for that filter um blue |
| 734s | filter sharing to be |
| 735s | built into the game that would be really |
| 737s | nice |
| 738s | long-term goals |
| 753s | there we go all right |
| 756s | when's the next multiplayer update post |
| 758s | coming i don't know |
| 760s | we're uh we're still working on the |
| 764s | uh i guess the main focus you know i |
| 766s | just realized the sound is cranked isn't |
| 769s | it |
| 780s | thank you very much welcome to the party |
| 781s | london mcfluffin and |
| 784s | friends |
| 787s | somebody's man in resistance we don't |
| 788s | need the crit base but |
| 792s | or stash some things away because we |
| 793s | don't like just dropping stuff well |
| 795s | sometimes we do |
| 796s | we don't need that |
| 799s | or that or that |
| 803s | or that really |
| 809s | there's decent resistance there |
| 812s | the health is just overwhelming |
| 814s | and we've got coming in |
| 816s | arrow word has reset for five months in |
| 819s | a row i demand more bee puns |
| 824s | uh |
| 832s | i got nothing right now sorry |
| 841s | the hair is getting too long gotta get |
| 842s | it gotta get a haircut and i joked with |
| 844s | that a little while ago i never did it |
| 853s | definitely need to |
| 858s | uh sorry multiplayer stuff we're |
| 860s | focusing so we are working on i know we |
| 862s | talked about um |
| 864s | we're advancing multiplayer stuff right |
| 866s | now and there's there's a lot happening |
| 868s | with it at the moment so we're kind of |
| 871s | focused on that |
| 876s | there's a lot of exciting stuff |
| 877s | happening there right now actually |
| 886s | uh when can we expect the rest of the |
| 888s | specialization classes |
| 890s | at or before 1.0 |
| 894s | which i know isn't an actual time it's |
| 896s | just another event but that's the only |
| 898s | thing i can say is just |
| 900s | at least by 1.0 so |
| 902s | it might be with 1.0 it might be before |
| 904s | 1.0 but it'll definitely be by 1.0 at |
| 907s | the latest |
| 909s | and not next patch |
| 911s | so |
| 912s | sometime between the patch after next |
| 914s | and 1.0 |
| 915s | inclusive |
| 923s | uh if you could add one unrepresented |
| 925s | player fantasy archetype to the game |
| 927s | what would it be so if i could add it |
| 929s | myself i love this question by the way |
| 931s | if i could edit myself with like |
| 933s | no oversight do whatever i want i didn't |
| 936s | have to |
| 937s | like |
| 938s | get collaboration with anyone it was |
| 940s | just purely me whatever i want no |
| 942s | questions asked |
| 944s | um |
| 945s | it would be a |
| 946s | bard jester trickster |
| 949s | tinkerer engineer something in that |
| 952s | range like it's it's kind of a it's kind |
| 953s | of a muddled |
| 955s | uh not exactly sure what it would be |
| 956s | exactly but something in that where it's |
| 959s | um |
| 961s | you know it's like the magic of mundane |
| 964s | things but |
| 966s | that makes any sense |
| 970s | that's the type of archetype i'd be |
| 972s | looking for |
| 980s | so it would be a a lightly armored class |
| 983s | with a lot of |
| 985s | gadgets and |
| 987s | um |
| 990s | uh |
| 991s | you would use i guess crowd control |
| 993s | defensively a lot it'd be a lot of buffs |
| 995s | and |
| 997s | temporary minions i guess |
| 1005s | and there's definitely some fantasies |
| 1006s | represented there in rogue |
| 1008s | already um |
| 1010s | but i think there's room to make it |
| 1012s | distinct |
| 1021s | we're talking about just a master was |
| 1022s | that was that a mastery or a whole a |
| 1023s | player fantasy archetype yeah okay so it |
| 1025s | could have been anything yeah |
| 1027s | the uh the only other thing i think |
| 1028s | would be like really basic just like a |
| 1030s | barbarian where it's just straight up |
| 1032s | all it's about is i'm gonna hit you with |
| 1034s | this hammer and it |
| 1035s | the harder i can swing this this hammer |
| 1037s | is the more damage you're gonna take |
| 1039s | that's the whole class fantasy uh so |
| 1041s | yeah like that's the only other thing |
| 1043s | the other one i'd look at because we |
| 1044s | don't really have that so much we kind |
| 1046s | of have hints of it here and there |
| 1050s | all right |
| 1052s | uh what do you hold in higher regard |
| 1054s | when making decisions story end game or |
| 1057s | audience |
| 1059s | ah |
| 1061s | that's a really tough question answer |
| 1062s | because because i think it really |
| 1064s | depends on what it is |
| 1067s | um |
| 1068s | so for example if it is a |
| 1074s | um |
| 1075s | like |
| 1077s | yeah |
| 1078s | and none of those like you don't you |
| 1079s | don't always have to uh |
| 1081s | sacrifice one of those to get the others |
| 1082s | either so yeah that's a tricky one i'm |
| 1084s | not sure |
| 1086s | um |
| 1088s | making decisions story and gamer |
| 1090s | audience |
| 1093s | i also don't really understand what you |
| 1094s | mean by audience |
| 1096s | like how we think that it's going to be |
| 1098s | received by people like like what what |
| 1100s | the players we would we know they've |
| 1101s | asked for |
| 1103s | um |
| 1107s | i i think that |
| 1109s | story often takes a back seat |
| 1115s | i think if we can make something |
| 1117s | uh |
| 1118s | mechanically fun first we will and then |
| 1122s | uh if we can fit a storyline to it we |
| 1125s | will |
| 1126s | um but sometimes we do things strictly |
| 1127s | for story related reasons first like |
| 1129s | there's there's unique items that are in |
| 1131s | the game as a story element first and |
| 1133s | then we're like okay can we can we fit |
| 1135s | some mechanics that that work with this |
| 1136s | story element |
| 1139s | um |
| 1142s | but for the most part items will |
| 1143s | definitely go mechanics first |
| 1147s | that's that's a tricky question i'm |
| 1148s | sorry i didn't really good answer for |
| 1150s | you |
| 1155s | [Music] |
| 1163s | which arpg game |
| 1165s | have you played multiple or you you |
| 1167s | which which rpg game you played |
| 1169s | multiplayer you had most fun in |
| 1172s | um |
| 1173s | so what was the multiple like which was |
| 1175s | the multiplayer arpg that i enjoyed the |
| 1177s | most |
| 1178s | it's kind of a |
| 1182s | cop-out answer because |
| 1184s | uh you can take the multiplayer part out |
| 1185s | of that i still my favorite one is |
| 1187s | diablo ii |
| 1190s | yeah |
| 1191s | it's just the one i play the most what i |
| 1193s | grew up with |
| 1203s | was so tempted to play this new ladder |
| 1205s | that just released |
| 1207s | oh |
| 1210s | i saw someone post some boots this |
| 1211s | morning on reddit oh my god they were |
| 1213s | amazing |
| 1214s | oh |
| 1216s | just try element res |
| 1218s | and and move speed faster hit recovery |
| 1221s | and magic find and all in good |
| 1223s | quantities too |
| 1225s | is like the best boots i've ever seen |
| 1227s | like with day 10 on the ladder or |
| 1229s | something |
| 1232s | jelly |
| 1240s | that's what happens when your hand is |
| 1241s | off by one |
| 1253s | okay we're gonna take a look at those |
| 1254s | idols because i bet some of them are |
| 1256s | upgrades because i haven't done anything |
| 1257s | to my idol |
| 1259s | anything recently |
| 1269s | thank you to whoever that was i will |
| 1270s | look at it in a brief moment |
| 1275s | uh hunter x bandai killer bangkai killer |
| 1277s | has reset for six months in a row a last |
| 1280s | epoch |
| 1281s | bees indeed |
| 1283s | ah thank you very much |
| 1286s | six months that's uh yeah i don't know |
| 1288s | it's always cool when i see these |
| 1291s | those big numbers show up like that |
| 1293s | i really appreciate it |
| 1296s | and |
| 1297s | for anyone who has joined us since i did |
| 1299s | my spiel first thing all that money goes |
| 1301s | to charity charities right above my head |
| 1304s | uh and the end of our campaign for |
| 1306s | unicef we are donating 3 500 |
| 1309s | to unicef |
| 1310s | um |
| 1313s | 1500 and change of which was raised by |
| 1315s | you all the community you fantastic |
| 1317s | folks so you can give yourself a round |
| 1319s | of applause for that |
| 1322s | get it |
| 1324s | round to applause |
| 1337s | all right you mentioned on the podcast |
| 1339s | that you guys have plans on implementing |
| 1341s | a system to skip some parts of the story |
| 1343s | uh do you think it might come before 1.0 |
| 1346s | or after |
| 1347s | well as i said in the in the podcast um |
| 1351s | or maybe maybe it was on stream |
| 1352s | somewhere someone asked me like how long |
| 1353s | until we implemented and i was like |
| 1355s | uh negative six months was the answer |
| 1357s | because it's already in it's been in for |
| 1359s | six months |
| 1361s | so yes definitely plan to implement it |
| 1363s | before 1.0 because it's already in the |
| 1365s | game |
| 1376s | uh that's some question |
| 1379s | i know it's far in the future but what |
| 1381s | do you think will be the main focus with |
| 1383s | cycles seasonal content keeping the |
| 1385s | leveling progression story refreshing |
| 1387s | adding stuff to end game um |
| 1390s | you know i think i think that that focus |
| 1392s | will change as as the years go on so to |
| 1395s | speak |
| 1397s | um but initially i think it'll be |
| 1399s | focused |
| 1401s | on i think it'll be very similar to the |
| 1404s | patches we get now |
| 1405s | the the more end game focused patches |
| 1407s | that we get now |
| 1409s | um |
| 1410s | and at least initially where we're where |
| 1411s | we're still like adding new lots of new |
| 1414s | content to the game just like padding |
| 1416s | out some some slightly |
| 1418s | neglected areas of content like um |
| 1421s | adding new dungeons maybe making tweaks |
| 1424s | to like end game systems maybe we're |
| 1425s | just tacking on uh adjustment adjusting |
| 1428s | old ones you know like there'll be |
| 1429s | there'll be a whole bunch of things like |
| 1430s | that initially and then i think once the |
| 1432s | game settles into a bit more of a groove |
| 1436s | the the |
| 1438s | focus and theme of those might shift a |
| 1439s | little bit |
| 1441s | um |
| 1443s | but no like we're already looking at big |
| 1445s | changes to the campaign |
| 1447s | um |
| 1449s | even now like |
| 1452s | just the things we've i know we've like |
| 1454s | gone through like adjusted the campaign |
| 1455s | a few times now but like every time we |
| 1458s | do anything with the campaign new |
| 1460s | content adjusting old content we learn |
| 1462s | stuff and we develop new um |
| 1465s | techniques and new systems and new tools |
| 1467s | and suddenly the people who are making |
| 1470s | these things |
| 1471s | have have all these new things they can |
| 1472s | do with it that they were like when they |
| 1473s | were initially making the content |
| 1475s | they're like i wish i could do this but |
| 1476s | i can't because you don't have a tool |
| 1478s | for it or something like that and and |
| 1480s | then now we do and so they're like i |
| 1481s | wish i could go back to this story and |
| 1484s | and update it and fix it and everything |
| 1487s | and and so yeah we are |
| 1490s | like we're still wanting to give people |
| 1491s | the opportunity to |
| 1492s | go back and and reimagine and update |
| 1495s | lots of the content and um the story's |
| 1497s | evolved as well over the years so |
| 1498s | sunday's our initial plans don't quite |
| 1500s | line up with what we have now |
| 1502s | um |
| 1506s | health and endurance is nice but those |
| 1508s | first two are |
| 1511s | for me at least |
| 1514s | uh yeah |
| 1516s | so it'll be a little bit of everything |
| 1518s | really um and i think it'll depend i |
| 1520s | think it's also something that will |
| 1521s | change and |
| 1524s | like we'll reevaluate every every cycle |
| 1526s | every patch |
| 1531s | um but we do definitely want reasons for |
| 1533s | people to you know maybe you've |
| 1536s | played a lot and you you've kind of |
| 1538s | worked your way through most of the |
| 1539s | content we have |
| 1541s | um like having reasons for people to be |
| 1544s | excited to come back to the game i think |
| 1546s | is is really an important part of those |
| 1548s | cycles |
| 1548s | and |
| 1549s | uh usually |
| 1551s | that's that's so different for so many |
| 1552s | different people so like |
| 1554s | we probably have to um |
| 1557s | either have |
| 1558s | really varied patches or really focused |
| 1560s | patches or i don't know maybe both i'm |
| 1562s | kind of just rambling here because i |
| 1563s | don't know exactly what the awesome way |
| 1565s | to do it is and i'm sure after we've |
| 1566s | done a few of them we'll change our |
| 1568s | minds of what we think the optimal way |
| 1569s | to do it is |
| 1572s | a lot of that will be based on feedback |
| 1573s | we get from all of you |
| 1575s | as i mean everything else we do is |
| 1577s | basically |
| 1583s | all right just you and me matriarch |
| 1587s | all right just me |
| 1591s | come on |
| 1607s | hello guys |
| 1608s | did you guys at any point through |
| 1611s | throughout the um |
| 1616s | sorry just a second |
| 1629s | apparently i was talking too loud i was |
| 1631s | waking up a baby anyways |
| 1634s | hello guys did you |
| 1636s | guys at any point |
| 1638s | uh thought about |
| 1640s | taking increased more damage nodes from |
| 1643s | skill trees making so damage comes |
| 1645s | mainly from your gear and passes |
| 1648s | um |
| 1652s | we try and avoid as many just flat |
| 1655s | damage increases in the skill trees as |
| 1657s | possible and usually the ones that have |
| 1658s | more of that are generally older |
| 1661s | or older skills that still need to be |
| 1662s | updated |
| 1664s | so |
| 1665s | yes and no we do want certain things and |
| 1667s | usually they're they're really |
| 1668s | conditional |
| 1669s | or they're based on synergies with other |
| 1671s | skills or synergies within the skill or |
| 1674s | they change the way the skill scales and |
| 1676s | things like that so we try to we try and |
| 1678s | have as few just |
| 1679s | okay well fireball does 20 more damage |
| 1681s | now because you put these points in as |
| 1684s | we can |
| 1686s | now we do want |
| 1688s | there to be power increases when you |
| 1690s | level up the skill |
| 1692s | because we do want that to be an |
| 1693s | exciting event |
| 1696s | there is there's a balance there |
| 1699s | and we want the |
| 1700s | ideally a large portion of your power |
| 1702s | comes from your gear |
| 1704s | now a lot of the the power does come |
| 1706s | from your |
| 1708s | skill points mostly it's due to um |
| 1712s | nodes that are |
| 1713s | changing the way scaling happens or |
| 1715s | they're just really synergistic with |
| 1717s | some other piece of gear or scaling from |
| 1719s | some other source |
| 1723s | um neither one can really stand on their |
| 1725s | own without the other i don't think and |
| 1726s | that's definitely by design |
| 1737s | hello aaron |
| 1739s | hi |
| 1742s | i hope you're ready |
| 1746s | for the summer |
| 1748s | and laugh and play something else |
| 1754s | it's a good thing i can't sing |
| 1756s | at all because it means we can never be |
| 1757s | hit by copyright strikes for |
| 1760s | like music |
| 1761s | because it's so bad that no algorithm |
| 1764s | would ever pick it up |
| 1777s | oh you guys got some health |
| 1783s | it's impressive |
| 1802s | not happening |
| 1820s | this is a lot of enemies in this one |
| 1826s | trying not to die here |
| 1828s | some some strong enemies |
| 1832s | and a lot of them |
| 1835s | but we got it we got it |
| 1839s | hello winfox |
| 1841s | how's it going |
| 1847s | give me that experience |
| 1850s | we're almost 80. |
| 1853s | almost 80. |
| 1865s | [Music] |
| 1868s | we're going for those xp or xp nodes big |
| 1871s | time |
| 1875s | sanctuary reaper asks as i know you're a |
| 1877s | d2 fan i've been playing patch 2.4 |
| 1880s | pretty much since it dropped and i |
| 1881s | wanted to share |
| 1882s | a pog drop with you |
| 1884s | a soul and um rune |
| 1886s | and a perfect natural circle the the the |
| 1888s | set items are interesting because um |
| 1891s | being able to up them now in the cube is |
| 1894s | uh it's really cool |
| 1896s | um |
| 1898s | someone made a big spreadsheet a few |
| 1901s | months ago |
| 1902s | on um |
| 1904s | congrats on the um by the way that's |
| 1906s | nice |
| 1908s | early early armory on the ladder |
| 1912s | very nice |
| 1917s | um but |
| 1921s | was i saying |
| 1923s | oh yeah the the |
| 1924s | set items being able to up now and so |
| 1926s | i'm making a big big spreadsheet with |
| 1928s | like all the best things to offer |
| 1930s | and it was it was pretty interesting |
| 1932s | there's some actually decent options in |
| 1933s | there |
| 1935s | last bear chest |
| 1937s | well we're not playing a bear so we |
| 1938s | don't have to pick it up |
| 1956s | i think a lot of people look fondly back |
| 1958s | at d2 often with nostalgia so let's flip |
| 1960s | it if there is anything you'd absolutely |
| 1962s | not repeat from double 2 it would be i |
| 1963s | mean so there's there's a really obvious |
| 1964s | answer here and it's the same thing that |
| 1966s | brevik answers every time he gets asked |
| 1967s | this question and it's stamina |
| 1970s | um |
| 1971s | and so i'm not going to submit that as |
| 1973s | as the actual answer to this question |
| 1975s | because it's the i feel like it's a bit |
| 1976s | of a cop-out answer at this point |
| 1977s | because it's been it's been answered so |
| 1979s | many times as the answer to that |
| 1981s | question so so stamina aside |
| 1986s | um |
| 1988s | i i think the biggest biggest problem |
| 1990s | with it and it's it's really because it |
| 1991s | is |
| 1993s | like |
| 1994s | being compared to newer games that have |
| 1996s | much more robust end game systems |
| 1999s | the |
| 2001s | yeah i mean |
| 2003s | it's kind of it's got two answers in one |
| 2004s | as i just realized i'm talking so it |
| 2006s | doesn't have a lot of end game systems |
| 2008s | basically all there is is the |
| 2009s | pandemonium event |
| 2011s | and |
| 2012s | uh d-clone which which is which is cool |
| 2014s | but until the changes that they just |
| 2016s | made um declone was basically |
| 2019s | unavailable for almost everyone |
| 2022s | as an actual thing to do it's now |
| 2024s | actually kind of accessible which is |
| 2025s | phenomenal but it still is |
| 2027s | just diablo just a |
| 2029s | touch harder |
| 2031s | there's not really anything new there |
| 2032s | it's not actually that much worse but |
| 2034s | the biggest problem i think comes from |
| 2036s | the |
| 2037s | uh |
| 2038s | the the lack of top-end build diversity |
| 2040s | and i'm kind of looping all this in to |
| 2043s | highlight some of the mods that are out |
| 2044s | there |
| 2045s | um for dlv2 which i think has done a |
| 2046s | fantastic job of addressing a lot of |
| 2049s | these things and i don't think it's |
| 2050s | really a failing of the game um itself |
| 2053s | but rather just things we've learned |
| 2055s | about arpg's and what they can what's |
| 2058s | possible and um having other good |
| 2060s | examples available to us through through |
| 2063s | other games like grim dawn and path of |
| 2064s | exile and |
| 2066s | even just the things we learned from |
| 2067s | diablo 3 itself and um |
| 2070s | so having having a |
| 2072s | like a more robust game system |
| 2075s | which they've actually started to do a |
| 2076s | little bit in 2.4 when they when they |
| 2078s | added all the all the new 85 zones the |
| 2080s | 85 level zones so you can actually like |
| 2082s | farm in new places apart from just like |
| 2085s | the three good places to farm before |
| 2087s | um |
| 2090s | there's now like 20 of them or something |
| 2092s | and |
| 2094s | uh but just having those end game |
| 2096s | systems so uh things like path of diablo |
| 2098s | basically adds path of exile's mapping |
| 2100s | system to diablo 2 which is a ton of fun |
| 2103s | i know a few people that have |
| 2105s | worked on maps for it like creating maps |
| 2107s | for it which is really neat |
| 2111s | um |
| 2112s | yeah so i would say the long-winded |
| 2114s | answer is the lack of end game content |
| 2117s | and |
| 2118s | lack of top-end build diversity at |
| 2120s | endgame so like |
| 2122s | um |
| 2124s | i'm rambling so much here about this but |
| 2126s | uh |
| 2129s | just and 2.4 does a fair bit to address |
| 2131s | this last point is is that the end game |
| 2134s | builds diversity which i think which i |
| 2136s | hope has |
| 2137s | uh been significantly improved |
| 2139s | um |
| 2143s | and as i'm thinking about the the other |
| 2144s | things that 2.4 did is something that i |
| 2146s | probably should have said is just the |
| 2147s | short version of this answer is the |
| 2148s | shared cooldowns |
| 2149s | uh which they've removed in 2.4 so |
| 2151s | shared cooldowns |
| 2153s | and stamina |
| 2154s | i think are the easy answers first first |
| 2156s | off but um |
| 2158s | yeah so like you can you have paladins |
| 2159s | that are able to do the hardest content |
| 2161s | in the game |
| 2162s | at level 30 |
| 2164s | and then you have other classes that |
| 2168s | could technically get it done with |
| 2170s | absolutely perfect gear |
| 2173s | like |
| 2174s | like you got a level hundred |
| 2176s | um you got a little hundred druid with |
| 2178s | absolutely perfect gear yeah you can do |
| 2179s | rivers you know but |
| 2182s | apart from that you're probably not |
| 2184s | doing ubers on your on your druid and |
| 2186s | and yeah i know there are some builds |
| 2188s | that can get it done and it's like it is |
| 2190s | possible and everything but like |
| 2192s | they're not even in the in the |
| 2194s | like |
| 2195s | conversation really |
| 2199s | it's basically paladins and assassins |
| 2201s | with like you know barb can get it done |
| 2204s | necro can get it done sorcerers can can |
| 2206s | get it done |
| 2207s | but like |
| 2210s | zahn's usually relegated from that |
| 2212s | conversation druids usually not even |
| 2214s | talked about |
| 2222s | i know i just sound like i went on like |
| 2224s | a 20 minute rant about all the things |
| 2225s | that are terrible that diablo ii but i'm |
| 2227s | really nitpicking |
| 2228s | and |
| 2230s | uh |
| 2232s | you know it's that's about it there's |
| 2234s | not really much left to talk about of |
| 2235s | things that aren't fantastic in that |
| 2237s | game |
| 2253s | yeah i love diablo 2. |
| 2260s | nuke a panda though oh yeah |
| 2263s | oh |
| 2264s | so many things want my money right now |
| 2267s | i recently |
| 2269s | uh got uh got a new carrying case for |
| 2272s | cards |
| 2273s | and |
| 2275s | bought a |
| 2277s | brief story time here |
| 2279s | bought plans for |
| 2281s | 3d printed |
| 2283s | cases that hold hold all the cards that |
| 2286s | sit in there |
| 2288s | and then there's like uh the top slides |
| 2290s | out with like a top loader sleeve that |
| 2292s | you put the commander in and like you |
| 2293s | can get the cards out real easy |
| 2297s | but this all like locks in and |
| 2298s | everything yeah so i've |
| 2302s | done that recently and i'm trying to get |
| 2304s | the rest of them printed |
| 2305s | and uh because it's actually kind of |
| 2307s | difficult to get them printed |
| 2309s | uh |
| 2311s | and they take a long time to do |
| 2313s | i caved and just bought a printer |
| 2316s | they've come down in price so |
| 2318s | unbelievably much i couldn't believe it |
| 2321s | i was like i just wasn't even |
| 2322s | considering buying one like 3000 bucks |
| 2324s | no point even looking at them someone |
| 2326s | like me like a 300 printer i'm like |
| 2330s | yeah i can make that work save up for a |
| 2331s | couple months and get that no problem |
| 2337s | i've been wanting one for years |
| 2347s | so really excited about that supposed to |
| 2349s | arrive on sunday |
| 2356s | yeah nukapanna has some very exciting |
| 2358s | cards nuke if anyone doesn't know is a |
| 2360s | magic set that just came out um or like |
| 2363s | today i think today's the official |
| 2365s | launch day maybe it was last friday |
| 2369s | um |
| 2372s | but yeah it's it's got some really cool |
| 2374s | cards in it that are |
| 2376s | uh they're exciting |
| 2379s | a new equipment that can turn |
| 2381s | so some planeswalkers can be your |
| 2383s | commander |
| 2384s | big downside to that is you could never |
| 2385s | win with commander damage because you |
| 2387s | can't turn planeswalkers into creatures |
| 2389s | you can through like |
| 2392s | very roundabout means by like turning |
| 2394s | them into artifacts and then turning |
| 2396s | then animating that artifact and it's |
| 2398s | just a pain but now it's just one |
| 2399s | equipment you just slap on it and |
| 2400s | becomes a creature |
| 2401s | gideon anything |
| 2406s | it's a little pricey so i didn't pick |
| 2407s | one up but i think it's really cool |
| 2409s | they're adding things like that |
| 2414s | no new set drops i'm like all right what |
| 2417s | is under a dollar that looks cool |
| 2428s | all right let's move back off magic to |
| 2430s | last epoch the thing that i've actually |
| 2432s | supposed to be here for |
| 2435s | i just get rambly you |
| 2437s | know uh what was the decision-making |
| 2440s | process behind the current in-game |
| 2442s | system |
| 2442s | about four years of discussions uh but i |
| 2446s | can try and uh |
| 2448s | summarize them |
| 2449s | um why did you decide on soft cap |
| 2452s | scaling and game versus hard cap max |
| 2454s | level system slash end game boss well |
| 2457s | okay so there is |
| 2460s | there there is a hard cap on player |
| 2462s | power |
| 2463s | there is a maximum amount of stats you |
| 2465s | can get um and that doesn't that like |
| 2468s | that there's there's a hard cap there |
| 2470s | there's the point where you |
| 2472s | you could design theoretically the |
| 2474s | like |
| 2476s | most powerful creature or like anything |
| 2478s | in the game and it is |
| 2480s | technically possible |
| 2482s | not functionally possible and that's by |
| 2483s | design where there's always technically |
| 2485s | a way to make your character just a |
| 2486s | little bit better no character is truly |
| 2488s | ever 100 done and perfect and and part |
| 2491s | of that is just the |
| 2493s | um |
| 2495s | like i really like the feeling that |
| 2497s | there's always something more that a |
| 2498s | character can do and if if someone wants |
| 2501s | to really just have that pet character |
| 2503s | that's i don't mean like a pet class |
| 2505s | with like minions but just like that |
| 2506s | character that's like this is my baby |
| 2508s | and i'm gonna just play this one |
| 2510s | character forever there's always |
| 2512s | something you can get for it i think |
| 2514s | that's really cool i think it's really |
| 2515s | fun i really enjoy that the ability to |
| 2517s | just like focus hard on one character if |
| 2519s | you want |
| 2520s | i think that's just awesome and there's |
| 2522s | always that moment like i was just |
| 2523s | talking about this morning when i saw uh |
| 2525s | those that that pair of boots dropped or |
| 2527s | i didn't see a drop i saw it posted on |
| 2529s | reddit and like there's those moments of |
| 2531s | like oh my god i've never seen anything |
| 2533s | that amazing drop |
| 2535s | um and those boots i've seen other boots |
| 2537s | that are extremely similar so it's not |
| 2539s | that distinct but there's there's always |
| 2541s | that feeling of like there's always |
| 2542s | something a little bit better that could |
| 2543s | happen and i don't i love that feeling |
| 2546s | myself |
| 2547s | of of like |
| 2549s | you can find more there's there's room |
| 2552s | to improve your character more |
| 2554s | um as for like the |
| 2556s | scaling of end game itself and how that |
| 2558s | works and how it can always go up higher |
| 2560s | that's kind of a similar thing where |
| 2561s | there's there's always room for |
| 2562s | improvement and there's always a harder |
| 2564s | challenge to take on |
| 2565s | um |
| 2566s | we do |
| 2567s | there definitely needs to be that |
| 2568s | balance where there are these benchmark |
| 2570s | non-scaling |
| 2572s | um challenges and |
| 2574s | uh we started to add those a little bit |
| 2576s | so there's um the dungeon bosses are |
| 2580s | benchmark non-scaling challenges where |
| 2582s | they like a t4 jewelry fight is can |
| 2584s | change a little bit based on the mods |
| 2585s | you pick but there's sort of like a cap |
| 2587s | on |
| 2588s | where that that like that limit is |
| 2592s | so like you can take super hard mods |
| 2594s | throughout that but there's only two of |
| 2595s | them you can take and |
| 2597s | it's about 200 more damage and health i |
| 2599s | think it's about the cap that you can |
| 2600s | get on it |
| 2601s | um |
| 2603s | so there is |
| 2604s | i think it's important to have both um |
| 2608s | and |
| 2609s | we kind of try and work both styles in |
| 2611s | where we can |
| 2613s | that makes any sense |
| 2625s | because you can't you can end up like so |
| 2626s | going back to the other you can end up |
| 2627s | in a system where yes there is this like |
| 2630s | the hardest fight in the game |
| 2632s | is like there's there's not this like |
| 2634s | dynamically scaling content |
| 2636s | and that there's this hardest fight in |
| 2637s | the game that is the benchmark of what |
| 2638s | to do and that's the only really end |
| 2641s | game activity to be done |
| 2644s | other than just like keep continuing to |
| 2646s | level your character really |
| 2655s | so having those challenges that can |
| 2656s | continually get harder and harder i |
| 2657s | think is important along with |
| 2659s | uh with everything else |
| 2666s | it also helps for um |
| 2668s | having a ladder |
| 2670s | so if if there is a so so let's take |
| 2672s | level as an example for ladder uh |
| 2675s | compared to |
| 2677s | like max waves in the arena |
| 2680s | you can have people tied with no way to |
| 2683s | improve for level we'll be level 100 max |
| 2686s | level |
| 2687s | um |
| 2689s | you always have |
| 2691s | either a clear winner or the potential |
| 2693s | for someone to improve upon a tied time |
| 2695s | so there's always a way for someone to |
| 2697s | get a little bit better in the arena |
| 2699s | because you just go to another way the |
| 2700s | next wave is possible so there's always |
| 2702s | room for competition there and i think |
| 2705s | that when you don't have |
| 2707s | um |
| 2708s | time limits on top ends of competition |
| 2711s | it allows for people to continue to |
| 2714s | continue to do it in into the future so |
| 2717s | i think i'll use um |
| 2720s | speedrunning as as an example here so um |
| 2723s | certain games get really popular when |
| 2724s | speedrunning when there's like uh |
| 2727s | times are getting lowered constantly |
| 2728s | it's it's there's a lot of things that |
| 2730s | make a good speed running game so don't |
| 2731s | get into that but um it's lots of times |
| 2734s | they're really popular when there's uh |
| 2736s | perceived room for improvement |
| 2740s | um and quite often they'll |
| 2742s | slow down or die out when the human |
| 2744s | limits been achieved um |
| 2747s | is that a summoning salt video i think |
| 2750s | mario the human limit or something like |
| 2751s | that and we're like |
| 2753s | we're we're like frames off of |
| 2756s | off of the the lowest possible time in |
| 2759s | like super mario super eyebrows like the |
| 2761s | just nes |
| 2764s | and |
| 2765s | um |
| 2767s | personally i haven't seen like i don't |
| 2769s | um |
| 2770s | intently track these things very much i |
| 2772s | kind of just |
| 2773s | passively will pop my head back into |
| 2775s | certain speed running communities when |
| 2776s | uh when i see an update about one of |
| 2778s | them or something or a record gets |
| 2779s | broken |
| 2780s | um |
| 2782s | but a lot i i have a feeling that |
| 2785s | the number of people competing on those |
| 2787s | leaderboards slows down pretty heavily |
| 2790s | when |
| 2791s | it's perceived that there's nowhere to |
| 2792s | improve upon there's no way to like beat |
| 2794s | the person who's in first so why bother |
| 2795s | trying right |
| 2798s | and i think something similar happens |
| 2800s | with hard capped |
| 2802s | ladder systems |
| 2803s | so like um |
| 2805s | diablo 2 someone's already hit 100 in |
| 2807s | the ladder uh and now they're still like |
| 2809s | who can hit hundred first on |
| 2811s | like amazon and druid who can you know |
| 2814s | so still all of that but for just who |
| 2816s | can hit hunter first that's done for a |
| 2819s | lot of people the latter's over already |
| 2821s | um |
| 2823s | okay i should say a lot for a select few |
| 2825s | elite players the ladder is basically |
| 2827s | over already |
| 2829s | um but i think having that |
| 2831s | um that feeling that that there's still |
| 2833s | a new |
| 2835s | uh person someone could come in a month |
| 2837s | down the road and take that top spot |
| 2838s | still with a non-capped |
| 2842s | top spot on the ladder is really |
| 2843s | interesting |
| 2845s | um |
| 2846s | where someone could show up a year from |
| 2848s | from that point and like still compete |
| 2850s | and still do better and that happens a |
| 2851s | lot in speed running because you know |
| 2853s | the fastest time is |
| 2855s | is just zero but um |
| 2858s | they can calculate with with um |
| 2861s | tasks uh tool assisted speed runs where |
| 2863s | you're where basically it's a computer |
| 2865s | doing the the run and you're just |
| 2867s | telling me like programming the computer |
| 2868s | what to do it uh which is a completely |
| 2871s | different skill that's also quite |
| 2872s | impressive but um |
| 2875s | when you're in that situation it's you |
| 2876s | can tell where like where what what's |
| 2879s | level 100 in that situation |
| 2884s | that's actually pretty sweet bow and i |
| 2887s | think it's i think it's cool to uh |
| 2890s | i think it would be cool to look at the |
| 2892s | popularity of speedrunning games based |
| 2893s | on how close they are to the human limit |
| 2897s | whether their their like best record is |
| 2900s | side note while we're talking about |
| 2901s | speed running just a little bit |
| 2902s | tangentially sorry i know i'm way off |
| 2904s | topic here i'll i'll bring it back i |
| 2906s | promise um |
| 2910s | ah there's there's a um |
| 2912s | crap twilight princess speedrun so |
| 2914s | there's there's any percent which is um |
| 2917s | just finish the game as fast as possible |
| 2919s | and then there's 100 which is complete |
| 2920s | the game and get everything and then |
| 2922s | there's a lowest percent or low percent |
| 2925s | speed run category that's normally the |
| 2927s | same as any percent because getting |
| 2929s | stuff takes longer so low percent is get |
| 2931s | the fewest number of things to complete |
| 2933s | the game |
| 2934s | and |
| 2935s | uh because of the glitch in |
| 2937s | uh twilight princess legend zelda |
| 2939s | princess when link shows an item to the |
| 2942s | camera it's like it's so annoying if you |
| 2943s | play that game every time you find a |
| 2944s | flipping blue rupee look a blue rupee oh |
| 2947s | my goodness and you like sit there |
| 2948s | you're like great i didn't know this was |
| 2949s | a blue roopy or what it does thanks |
| 2951s | um |
| 2952s | but he he |
| 2954s | he slowly moves backwards by like tiny |
| 2957s | little steps |
| 2959s | uh when he's in that pose and someone |
| 2960s | figured out that if you pick up a blue |
| 2961s | rupee with your back to a door |
| 2964s | um and wait a few hours you'll get |
| 2966s | through the door |
| 2968s | um |
| 2970s | so they uh there's a speedrun that |
| 2972s | involves |
| 2973s | leaving your computer for 13 hours or |
| 2975s | something silly |
| 2981s | i just thought it was neat |
| 2983s | you haven't seen it look it up it's cool |
| 2986s | low percent |
| 2987s | twilight princess it's silly |
| 2989s | all right let's go back to questions |
| 2991s | that are actually last epoch related i'm |
| 2993s | sorry um |
| 2995s | poe has seen bloat |
| 2999s | uh that can be seen as both good and bad |
| 3001s | thing uh to their core game from adding |
| 3004s | league mechanics to the chord game um is |
| 3007s | ehg planning to use cycles to add |
| 3008s | content to the core game and if so are |
| 3010s | there plans to prevent bloat uh yes and |
| 3012s | yes um so sometimes that content can be |
| 3019s | um i |
| 3020s | so i there's a lot of different this is |
| 3022s | another really deep topic i think i'm |
| 3024s | not gonna go too far into it but the |
| 3026s | short answer is yes we're going to add |
| 3027s | stuff to the card game yes we're going |
| 3029s | to do stuff to to hopefully |
| 3032s | prevent bloat um |
| 3035s | the easy way to do that is just remove |
| 3037s | systems so like if you put one in take |
| 3039s | one out you know it's not bloat however |
| 3040s | the problem with that is that you end up |
| 3042s | removing something that someone really |
| 3043s | likes |
| 3044s | um |
| 3046s | one one way you can do you can avoid |
| 3048s | that is by |
| 3049s | reworking systems to sort of include |
| 3051s | other ones and there's there's things |
| 3053s | we've seen like that happen in poe |
| 3055s | already um and sometimes it's met really |
| 3058s | well sometimes it's not really depends |
| 3061s | uh |
| 3062s | and then there's |
| 3064s | uh sometimes you can focus leagues |
| 3066s | around |
| 3067s | uh i guess reworking old systems so like |
| 3071s | we could focus a league around i keep |
| 3073s | using the term league and i know it's |
| 3074s | cycles i'm sorry uh we could focus the |
| 3076s | cycle around for example |
| 3078s | uh |
| 3079s | reorganizing the monolith |
| 3083s | and it's basically making a new |
| 3085s | um a new |
| 3087s | like |
| 3087s | end game system to play with but it is |
| 3089s | the same system so you can kind of |
| 3091s | replace the old with the new |
| 3094s | and that avoids bloat and we've |
| 3095s | definitely built our monolith system |
| 3098s | with being able to do that in mind and |
| 3100s | and being able to get pretty deep |
| 3102s | content from that type of changing and |
| 3104s | and make things new and interesting |
| 3106s | still while not increasing the total |
| 3108s | amount of things in the game and and so |
| 3110s | there's there's |
| 3111s | that is something that comes up in |
| 3112s | conversations quite often of like |
| 3114s | where's the limit of too much how do we |
| 3116s | decide if something should be a new |
| 3118s | system or replacement system |
| 3120s | uh you know stuff like that so there's |
| 3122s | there's a lot of consideration for that |
| 3124s | we are |
| 3125s | looking ahead 10 years hopefully and and |
| 3128s | and seeing like how can we maintain this |
| 3132s | um |
| 3133s | exciting new thing for for years and |
| 3135s | years and years |
| 3137s | similar to how path of exile has |
| 3139s | maintained a new and exciting thing for |
| 3140s | years and years and years um and |
| 3142s | hopefully learning from from the things |
| 3144s | they've done well and the things that |
| 3145s | they've uh learned themselves that |
| 3147s | they've not done so well as well because |
| 3148s | you can see changes in their own |
| 3149s | strategies to it at the same time |
| 3154s | over the years and and yeah so yes |
| 3156s | guessing yes it's the answer to that |
| 3157s | question |
| 3158s | all right heavy i know you already |
| 3160s | teasered a bit uh that one of the |
| 3163s | missing masteries will have a special |
| 3165s | mechanic will that involve a pet |
| 3168s | that is not really considered a minion |
| 3170s | in the typical le sense in terms of |
| 3172s | gearing and itemization um so the |
| 3175s | question which i think you're trying to |
| 3176s | ask is |
| 3178s | will the falcon be an actual pet or will |
| 3181s | it be something else |
| 3185s | um |
| 3185s | [Music] |
| 3187s | and i i don't really want to answer this |
| 3188s | because like |
| 3190s | it's not implemented far enough to |
| 3192s | really say for sure if things aren't |
| 3193s | going to change you know and i don't |
| 3194s | want to be like |
| 3196s | um oh yeah it's going to be this and |
| 3198s | then we like we implement what our plans |
| 3200s | are and then we're like wait a second |
| 3201s | this isn't actually fun |
| 3202s | um |
| 3204s | i i think there's a lot i just want to |
| 3206s | preface this question i guess by saying |
| 3208s | i think people are even though i keep |
| 3209s | saying we haven't done anything on them |
| 3210s | i think people are assuming that i'm |
| 3212s | bluffing and we've actually done a lot |
| 3214s | on them and i'm just not ready to talk |
| 3215s | about it or something like that we've |
| 3216s | done so freaking little with the |
| 3218s | masteries |
| 3220s | like like really so little |
| 3223s | um |
| 3225s | and |
| 3226s | and most most of what we've done with it |
| 3228s | is available on our website |
| 3230s | like there's really little we've we've |
| 3232s | specced out some skills that we have |
| 3234s | planned like some some just like |
| 3236s | one-liner descriptions like this much of |
| 3238s | a description |
| 3239s | on on what we want some skills to be for |
| 3242s | those uh for those masters and that's |
| 3243s | about it |
| 3246s | um oh yeah there's a few models and like |
| 3248s | little things like that but the actual |
| 3250s | like functional design of most of it is |
| 3252s | totally up for upper changing and |
| 3254s | feedback still |
| 3255s | as as i'm sure people that especially |
| 3257s | like you have you've been here for quite |
| 3258s | a while no a lot changes through |
| 3260s | feedback that corsair shield just got it |
| 3262s | off which is nice |
| 3264s | so um |
| 3266s | i think you've made a very |
| 3269s | astute observation based on the small |
| 3271s | amount of information we've given |
| 3272s | but i'm not going to confirm or deny |
| 3274s | what you |
| 3275s | [Music] |
| 3277s | said sorry |
| 3280s | sky gear yes i play standing |
| 3282s | so i do things like this |
| 3290s | it's warm in here the window is wide |
| 3292s | open my heat is completely off |
| 3294s | it is warm in here |
| 3304s | i actually really like that amulet |
| 3309s | i don't like that one so much |
| 3313s | i don't like that one so much this is a |
| 3315s | nice amulet but i don't like it |
| 3322s | yeah we might craft on that one a little |
| 3323s | later |
| 3328s | xp node let's go |
| 3332s | uh |
| 3333s | what's your what is the team slash your |
| 3335s | thoughts on dungeon maps as they stand |
| 3337s | are the future ones going to be the same |
| 3339s | um |
| 3340s | so i think the i think the underlying |
| 3342s | and i'm sorry if i so i know i use the |
| 3344s | term like i think the underlying |
| 3345s | question here is and i'm sorry if i get |
| 3346s | these completely wrong but i feel like |
| 3348s | the underlying question here is asking |
| 3350s | about randomization for them and how |
| 3351s | that's done |
| 3353s | because it doesn't uh we don't use a |
| 3355s | traditional |
| 3357s | procedural generation |
| 3358s | for maps like you would see in things |
| 3359s | like path of exile |
| 3361s | and i |
| 3363s | i know that like |
| 3367s | how do i put this the |
| 3369s | technically |
| 3372s | the the act of having a large grid and |
| 3375s | putting blockers in that grid is exactly |
| 3378s | the same |
| 3379s | from a functional standpoint |
| 3381s | as as just having a |
| 3385s | um |
| 3388s | of just like having a the the the |
| 3390s | pathways get created |
| 3392s | so oh that is i was gonna draw something |
| 3394s | on my screen but i've gotta finish this |
| 3396s | first before i do that um |
| 3399s | the the the problem with blocking them |
| 3400s | off is it has and something i've alluded |
| 3403s | to in the past is it has what i believe |
| 3405s | to be a negative psychological impact of |
| 3409s | uh being able to see the paths that |
| 3411s | weren't created |
| 3412s | or to see the paths that were blocked |
| 3414s | off like being able to see those things |
| 3416s | that could have been but worked uh as as |
| 3419s | being really frustrating and |
| 3420s | disappointing |
| 3423s | uh |
| 3424s | and so i think that if we can |
| 3427s | converting to a more traditional |
| 3429s | system of procedural generation would be |
| 3431s | ideal |
| 3432s | however |
| 3434s | um there aren't any plans to do that for |
| 3437s | 1.0 at the moment |
| 3439s | um i will say that when i use that |
| 3441s | phrase |
| 3443s | that just means |
| 3445s | we we don't we don't have active plans |
| 3447s | for it and usually that's because we |
| 3449s | either don't know how or we do know how |
| 3450s | and we know it's going to take way too |
| 3452s | long to do before we can before the |
| 3455s | deadline we would set for it um |
| 3459s | so i could see that being something that |
| 3461s | we work on still well i could see that's |
| 3464s | something that we're going to keep |
| 3465s | working on for sure is is making our um |
| 3467s | systems for creating levels and and and |
| 3470s | randomization |
| 3471s | better |
| 3472s | in every sense of it and |
| 3474s | um |
| 3477s | but i think what you'll see likely at |
| 3479s | launch |
| 3481s | is very similar to what we have now |
| 3484s | i'd be i'd be pretty |
| 3486s | unless someone on the team comes up with |
| 3488s | some unbelievable solutions out of the |
| 3490s | blue |
| 3491s | uh to to the problems we have |
| 3494s | and and so like this is |
| 3495s | there are examples of that happening but |
| 3497s | i don't wanna get anyone's hopes up is |
| 3498s | kind of the problem |
| 3499s | so like you see at the top of the screen |
| 3501s | um how there are |
| 3504s | uh the ailments i'll get listed like see |
| 3506s | there's the bleed fire shred |
| 3509s | um |
| 3511s | all that showing up |
| 3513s | about a year ago i think maybe a little |
| 3515s | bit more uh if you'd asked me can we |
| 3518s | have those i wouldn't give you the exact |
| 3520s | same answer i just gave you to the other |
| 3521s | question |
| 3522s | um |
| 3523s | but we have those now |
| 3525s | and then um |
| 3527s | about a month ago if you'd asked me so |
| 3529s | you might have noticed that there's like |
| 3530s | sometimes it'll show up like it's a 15 |
| 3532s | it says 15 plus as a cap it doesn't |
| 3534s | actually tell you how many there are |
| 3535s | over 15. |
| 3536s | about a month ago if you asked me uh can |
| 3538s | we remove that cap i would have given |
| 3539s | the exact same answer as well |
| 3541s | um but now i can say there's a good |
| 3543s | chance that'll go away actually |
| 3546s | because i think someone figured out a |
| 3547s | way to fix it |
| 3549s | i just don't like saying like oh yeah |
| 3550s | we'll fix that i don't know if we can |
| 3559s | so for now |
| 3560s | we don't have a good way of creating |
| 3563s | random levels the way you are more used |
| 3565s | to them from other games |
| 3567s | so we're not planning on doing it |
| 3570s | but it's something we definitely want to |
| 3572s | have |
| 3576s | and it's it's it's |
| 3579s | passively being worked on there's no one |
| 3581s | actively working out but i bet it's in |
| 3582s | the back of several people's minds |
| 3586s | that makes any sense |
| 3588s | like i'm getting a little far behind |
| 3589s | aren't i here talking too long |
| 3592s | uh what's your current favorite build on |
| 3593s | which is i just love melee lich of like |
| 3595s | let's focus on reap as much as possible |
| 3598s | and |
| 3599s | harvest i remember chosuki saying eg |
| 3602s | would look at stun and stun mitigation |
| 3604s | is this still something that's on the |
| 3605s | list of things to look at um |
| 3610s | and we haven't talked about it in a |
| 3611s | while i don't know if |
| 3613s | there's i i can't say it's actively |
| 3615s | something that's being um |
| 3620s | prototyped any changes to anything like |
| 3622s | that |
| 3626s | but the list as you uh as you put it |
| 3629s | is huge so it's probably on there |
| 3631s | somewhere |
| 3634s | not happening it's probably on the lower |
| 3636s | half of the list |
| 3648s | not useful for us |
| 3651s | heavy roughly how much |
| 3654s | percentage of your team's capacity will |
| 3656s | return to creating regular content from |
| 3659s | the game once multiplayer is in a stable |
| 3661s | state |
| 3662s | and you have team members who will |
| 3663s | solely stay focused on keeping an eye on |
| 3665s | multiplayer in terms of servers and back |
| 3667s | in tech after that stable multiplayer |
| 3669s | state is achieved will the cadence of |
| 3672s | updates to regular game increase or will |
| 3674s | updates simply be bigger |
| 3677s | uh there's a lot of people that working |
| 3679s | on |
| 3680s | solely multiplayer content or shouldn't |
| 3682s | say solely primarily multiplayer content |
| 3684s | that will |
| 3686s | uh their focus will shift back to |
| 3689s | content |
| 3690s | like like gameplay content once |
| 3691s | multiplayer is um |
| 3694s | the norm i want to say |
| 3697s | we spent a lot of time in the last year |
| 3699s | getting away from like |
| 3700s | i'm working on multiplayer i'm working |
| 3702s | on the rest of the game and just being |
| 3703s | like we're working on the whole game |
| 3705s | together type thing okay so like like it |
| 3707s | felt like there was two teams before and |
| 3709s | we spent a lot of time merging those |
| 3710s | teams together |
| 3713s | um |
| 3718s | so it's but yeah there's a lot of like |
| 3721s | all those people that are working on the |
| 3723s | game |
| 3724s | uh |
| 3725s | i mean once |
| 3726s | once multiplayer is more stable being |
| 3729s | able to have them |
| 3730s | spend more time on |
| 3732s | content |
| 3734s | is a natural evolution of the things |
| 3736s | they're doing for sure um |
| 3739s | there will be some people that will |
| 3740s | continue to be dedicated to multiplayer |
| 3742s | stuff only like you know maintaining |
| 3744s | servers and things like that like |
| 3745s | there's |
| 3746s | there's there's a lot of work that to be |
| 3747s | done on that long term |
| 3750s | um |
| 3754s | another question here and there |
| 3763s | yeah i i i can't give you a percentage |
| 3765s | number i don't know |
| 3767s | it also if i gave you a percentage |
| 3768s | number it would mean literally nothing |
| 3770s | to you as well so |
| 3771s | sorry i'm not gonna give you a number on |
| 3772s | that |
| 3775s | it would be very misleading |
| 3782s | and someone mentioning someone else to |
| 3783s | tag questions with my name |
| 3789s | what was the question |
| 3791s | so it's uh so it's been a while any |
| 3793s | updates on gun lance or fist weapons um |
| 3798s | uh gunpowder has not been invented |
| 3801s | in the world |
| 3802s | at this point |
| 3804s | uh as far as fist weapons go i don't |
| 3806s | think that the |
| 3808s | uh |
| 3810s | so the only character that i think would |
| 3811s | really fit fist weapons really nicely or |
| 3813s | at all would be a uh blade dancer and i |
| 3816s | think the the the fantasy of a blade |
| 3818s | dancer is a little |
| 3820s | i mean you can make the argument for a |
| 3822s | prime list but no the masteries really |
| 3824s | work so yeah |
| 3827s | um i i think you're more likely to see |
| 3830s | fist weapons come with a new mastery |
| 3833s | i'll say that |
| 3835s | um |
| 3836s | and gunpowder hasn't been invented so |
| 3838s | yeah |
| 3840s | uh sup sup |
| 3842s | uh i love speedrunning on this game |
| 3844s | sweet that's cool this is i i saw some |
| 3846s | uh |
| 3848s | some speedrunning talks recently |
| 3849s | actually |
| 3851s | i think that's neat |
| 3853s | um i i find speed running fascinating |
| 3855s | and i love it and i've i've never really |
| 3857s | tried to get into it um |
| 3860s | but i love |
| 3861s | uh |
| 3863s | like |
| 3864s | watching people do speedrunning streams |
| 3866s | and i love watching um recaps of like |
| 3869s | how we got to where we are on like |
| 3870s | certain certain world records and things |
| 3871s | like that um |
| 3874s | some great youtubers out there uh |
| 3875s | somebody saw those awesome ones really |
| 3877s | few and far between on his uh content so |
| 3879s | once you've like binged it it sucks |
| 3881s | because you're like |
| 3882s | where is it it's like a month two months |
| 3884s | later where is it |
| 3885s | um |
| 3887s | carl |
| 3889s | jokes jokes |
| 3890s | i don't know how to pronounce his name |
| 3891s | sorry uh he does good stuff too |
| 3894s | anyways uh on this game uh will there be |
| 3897s | some ladder for campaign or something |
| 3899s | more like in poe where they announce to |
| 3901s | the first one to reach areas i announced |
| 3903s | in the first person to reach an area is |
| 3905s | tricky |
| 3906s | um we definitely looked into that when |
| 3908s | we were designing our systems and i i |
| 3910s | know that was a feature that we wanted |
| 3912s | and we're unsure if we're gonna be able |
| 3913s | to deliver on |
| 3915s | uh certain landmarks like um |
| 3920s | like who's the first to reach a hundred |
| 3922s | that's easy to do |
| 3923s | um |
| 3924s | first enter zones might be possible but |
| 3926s | it's on the maybe list at the moment |
| 3928s | i i do love that that the way they |
| 3930s | announced that stuff i mean that's so |
| 3931s | cool just it gives a sense of |
| 3935s | being part of the event when it happens |
| 3937s | even though you're not and i think that |
| 3938s | the early examples of that that i |
| 3940s | experienced was in wow um |
| 3943s | we were |
| 3945s | we were fighting uh yogg-saron |
| 3948s | with all of the all of the guardians |
| 3951s | upset they were guardians so it's like |
| 3952s | the hardest version of yogg-saron on |
| 3954s | heroic difficulty and everything and |
| 3955s | there's like a big achievement for that |
| 3957s | um we're in the middle of the fight |
| 3959s | and the announcement comes through that |
| 3961s | another guild has done it and it's like |
| 3964s | it's so heartbreaking but it's cool |
| 3967s | um |
| 3969s | because we had done the exact same thing |
| 3971s | to them |
| 3973s | uh |
| 3974s | whatever the however long it was before |
| 3976s | in the trial of the grand crusade with |
| 3978s | the noob iraq where we had done the |
| 3980s | tribute to insanity it's like you do |
| 3982s | heroic mode with all 50 attempts |
| 3983s | remaining |
| 3984s | um |
| 3985s | and |
| 3987s | like no wipes which is insane |
| 3990s | and um |
| 3993s | you you have like |
| 3995s | i don't know it builds it builds |
| 3996s | community i guess like it has that |
| 3998s | competition it makes you feel like |
| 3999s | you're a part of it um the announcement |
| 4001s | goes out and then everyone like goes to |
| 4003s | dalaran and waits around and everyone |
| 4004s | shows up their new mounts and everything |
| 4006s | oh it's it's just it's cool to have and |
| 4007s | i really like that i love the poe does |
| 4009s | it |
| 4010s | i'd love to have something like that in |
| 4012s | our game too |
| 4018s | spiral kiosk asks i stumbled into this |
| 4021s | game trying to find other arpg to play |
| 4022s | so i haven't dug into all the notes yet |
| 4025s | there's a lot |
| 4027s | are there any plans to implement |
| 4028s | non-combat companions to grab gold not |
| 4030s | at the moment |
| 4032s | um |
| 4033s | if we did |
| 4035s | i do want to make this so so like we're |
| 4036s | not against |
| 4037s | like it'll never happen no it's not that |
| 4039s | we just don't have plans for at the |
| 4040s | moment it could happen if it does happen |
| 4043s | um |
| 4044s | uh the question that often comes up is |
| 4046s | like well if you're gonna make people |
| 4048s | pay five dollars to have a |
| 4050s | minion that goes around and picks things |
| 4051s | up because there are there are |
| 4052s | companions already |
| 4054s | um |
| 4057s | okay crap pick one that |
| 4059s | other people could have |
| 4061s | i know my account looks insane there we |
| 4063s | go |
| 4064s | um |
| 4067s | so like we do have little companions |
| 4069s | that'll follow you around already |
| 4071s | as rewards for um |
| 4073s | some of the kickstarter bundles the |
| 4075s | alpha bundle um and then the |
| 4078s | uh |
| 4079s | [Music] |
| 4082s | this is the current ones i know it looks |
| 4084s | like it's really weird that i have some |
| 4085s | of the higher ones and not the lower |
| 4086s | ones so if you have a higher one you're |
| 4087s | supposed to get the lower ones |
| 4088s | automatically |
| 4090s | i don't think these ones are released |
| 4092s | right now |
| 4094s | because they don't look fantastic they |
| 4097s | might be actually |
| 4098s | i don't know um |
| 4101s | but when you buy the game you just |
| 4102s | everyone gets this one right now |
| 4104s | and um that's something that's really |
| 4107s | important is that if hypothetically we |
| 4109s | were to add a pet that could pick up |
| 4111s | gold and it cost five dollars |
| 4114s | hypothetically hypothetically |
| 4115s | hypothetically um |
| 4117s | it there would always be a guaranteed |
| 4120s | free one that everyone had access to so |
| 4122s | we would never lock a system like that |
| 4124s | behind a cosmetic |
| 4129s | just wanna make sure that's that's |
| 4130s | really clear |
| 4136s | the the pickup range on gold's also |
| 4137s | pretty huge |
| 4139s | so it auto picks up |
| 4141s | uh do you think the sentinel theming of |
| 4143s | high dr high defense is sufficiently |
| 4146s | representative in last epoch when |
| 4148s | virtually all other classes have more dr |
| 4151s | uh |
| 4154s | innate it is innately okay uh in their |
| 4156s | passage started scrolled for a second |
| 4157s | there i didn't see what it said honey in |
| 4159s | their passive trees thoughts um |
| 4165s | i i think that the sentinel has more |
| 4168s | synergies with |
| 4170s | uh various dr related things |
| 4172s | if that makes any sense um |
| 4175s | i think you |
| 4176s | like they can synergize offense with |
| 4178s | defense a lot better |
| 4179s | um a prime example that is being able to |
| 4181s | scale offensive points in um |
| 4184s | void night with uh with vitality which |
| 4187s | is a defensive um attribute and the only |
| 4189s | people that can do that |
| 4191s | so i think there's i think there and i |
| 4194s | think that when |
| 4195s | um |
| 4196s | other classes are are |
| 4198s | taking these high defensive nodes they |
| 4201s | are giving up quite a bit in opportunity |
| 4203s | cost usually not always |
| 4208s | um and then sometimes |
| 4210s | there there are times where |
| 4212s | uh |
| 4213s | combinations are found that were not |
| 4215s | intended |
| 4218s | and are more powerful than we'd hoped |
| 4228s | but yeah if you don't feel like that's |
| 4230s | being represented properly um because i |
| 4232s | would say sentinel is designed generally |
| 4233s | to be the most defensive |
| 4236s | uh most uh |
| 4238s | the easiest to set up a |
| 4240s | fairly defensive class with |
| 4243s | since |
| 4246s | and if you've got examples or |
| 4247s | suggestions on how to make it better |
| 4248s | into that fantasy please head on over to |
| 4251s | our forums and leave a post there |
| 4256s | master sword oh you've gotta i don't |
| 4257s | know i didn't react to that as well |
| 4259s | release has summed for the first month |
| 4262s | in a row i know i say first month in a |
| 4264s | row but just |
| 4265s | thank you |
| 4267s | glad to have you with us i hope you're |
| 4269s | enjoying yourself |
| 4271s | oh not a rare one there |
| 4276s | all right |
| 4281s | uh any buff to high mana cost melee hits |
| 4285s | boyd cleveland racing strike at the |
| 4286s | moment they are underperforming an |
| 4288s | endgame we buff those a lot like i know |
| 4290s | it might seem like we do very much to it |
| 4291s | but we do buff them quite a bit those |
| 4292s | two specifically uh it feels |
| 4295s | feels like we're always buffing those |
| 4296s | skills like pretty well every patch it |
| 4298s | feels like we're blocking them for a |
| 4299s | while now um |
| 4303s | i think that the part of the problem |
| 4307s | is the assumption that they can be used |
| 4309s | exclusively |
| 4313s | and and having these skills where it's |
| 4315s | like oh it costs too much mana |
| 4317s | to use as your only damage source |
| 4320s | yes |
| 4322s | that's true |
| 4327s | uh are you hyped for sentinel league |
| 4329s | looks awesome i'm probably not gonna |
| 4330s | play it i do think it looks awesome i |
| 4332s | think the uh the change in the mechanic |
| 4334s | i feel it like |
| 4336s | i was not expecting what they did with |
| 4338s | it and i think that's really cool when |
| 4340s | you can surprise people |
| 4347s | yeah i'm hyped to see |
| 4350s | um what they can do with it what the |
| 4352s | impact is of it all those sorts of |
| 4353s | things |
| 4354s | i think it's gonna be |
| 4355s | great who knows what's gonna actually |
| 4357s | happen but |
| 4359s | i'm very excited for it |
| 4363s | uh |
| 4364s | first time chatters uh asked the |
| 4366s | question but didn't uh didn't ping me |
| 4367s | that's okay just a reminder if you got a |
| 4369s | question don't forget to put atlas last |
| 4370s | epoch game in the question and i will |
| 4372s | see it question was when is warlock |
| 4374s | going to be unlocked um for anyone that |
| 4376s | missed earlier it is sometime betw |
| 4378s | sometime after next patch |
| 4381s | and by launch at the latest so it will |
| 4384s | not be next patch |
| 4386s | it could be any patch after that up to |
| 4388s | and including 1.0 |
| 4394s | all right |
| 4395s | so in games where they speed run the |
| 4396s | game does not change in an rpg that's a |
| 4399s | good point uh yeah uh in an apg there |
| 4401s | will be challenge |
| 4403s | changes and there will come a broken |
| 4405s | build that can do stuff that no one |
| 4406s | other build canada no matter if you wait |
| 4408s | 10 years no one will be able to beat it |
| 4411s | yeah and i think i was more referring to |
| 4415s | um |
| 4417s | shorter term differences so like um with |
| 4421s | with the level two because there's the |
| 4422s | ladders to 100 or 99 sorry and um |
| 4427s | like someone hits it and like that's it |
| 4429s | no one can ever do better than that |
| 4430s | right and that happened |
| 4432s | a week we're a weekend week and a half |
| 4435s | whatever it is now |
| 4436s | um |
| 4441s | so we're we're pretty we're pretty |
| 4443s | recent |
| 4445s | dallas has gifted a t1 sub to box jet |
| 4447s | 200. |
| 4448s | thanks nadalis uh maxi 200 is the game |
| 4450s | director for last epoch so |
| 4453s | um |
| 4454s | doesn't exactly need one here but thank |
| 4456s | you very much i appreciate it i always |
| 4458s | love seeing that one with people |
| 4460s | when it's like uh like a big gift and uh |
| 4463s | one of one of one of us gets randomly |
| 4465s | gets it that's always funny |
| 4468s | but that was targeted so good job |
| 4471s | oh have you have he's coming up with a |
| 4473s | bunch of five more from heavy thank you |
| 4474s | very much sir |
| 4476s | uh anyone in there i recognize |
| 4479s | no it's much but congrats to everyone |
| 4480s | who got one of those i hope you're |
| 4482s | enjoying yourself here |
| 4484s | and can take advantage of it let's go |
| 4486s | over here and get some more info |
| 4489s | uh |
| 4491s | yes sorry so the speedrun thing yeah so |
| 4492s | there's like |
| 4494s | um |
| 4495s | with the arena say someone say someone |
| 4497s | does says a three three |
| 4499s | month long cycle as an example |
| 4502s | just as a hypothetical and someone in |
| 4504s | the first month comes in and nothing |
| 4506s | changes mechanically in those three |
| 4507s | months in the first month someone comes |
| 4509s | in plays really hard gets up to like 500 |
| 4511s | waves and it's like that's the top and |
| 4513s | then someone starts |
| 4515s | at this like with a month left and plays |
| 4517s | really hard and just before it finishes |
| 4519s | they get to 501 and they beat them |
| 4520s | that's great um they didn't need to be |
| 4522s | there for the first little bit to |
| 4524s | compete on that ladder |
| 4526s | and i think that's one of the big |
| 4527s | advantages of having |
| 4529s | a ladder that doesn't have a hard cap on |
| 4531s | it that's the point i was trying to get |
| 4532s | to |
| 4535s | oh hype train's going off what does that |
| 4537s | mean |
| 4537s | you ready |
| 4543s | thank you very much error word has kept |
| 4546s | things rolling here uh three more gifted |
| 4549s | subs oh perry the pig got one congrats |
| 4551s | perry |
| 4553s | perry hangs out quite a bit |
| 4557s | so that's great uh yeah i hope that |
| 4559s | explains a little bit better what i was |
| 4561s | trying to say because i know i can start |
| 4563s | rambling then i get off topic |
| 4565s | or i'll lose my thread sometimes |
| 4569s | sorry about that |
| 4573s | my confirmed falcon not a pet |
| 4576s | did i |
| 4578s | to find pets |
| 4588s | uh i think you're under i think your |
| 4589s | underlying question is why you already |
| 4591s | half an hour behind on chat ooh am i uh |
| 4594s | what is the most frustrating part of my |
| 4595s | job oh when there's um |
| 4600s | when there's a bug |
| 4602s | that |
| 4603s | you just can't solve |
| 4607s | and um |
| 4612s | like you just you you you struggle with |
| 4614s | it struggle with the struggle struggle |
| 4615s | with it and then it turns out you could |
| 4618s | never solve it |
| 4621s | um because like some something was down |
| 4623s | some server was down or something or |
| 4625s | like you know something had happened |
| 4628s | behind the scenes that like wasn't it |
| 4630s | wasn't your fault or something like that |
| 4631s | but like it appeared to be and it's just |
| 4633s | like you're you're spinning your wheels |
| 4635s | for nothing |
| 4640s | that's i find that frustrating |
| 4645s | regarding dungeons i was really |
| 4647s | disappointed by two |
| 4649s | three dungeon needing external resources |
| 4652s | and basically makes keys meaningless if |
| 4654s | you want to use them decently effect |
| 4656s | efficient yeah so i i just want to like |
| 4659s | i'll read the rest of the question here |
| 4660s | but like that that desire to have them |
| 4663s | be used efficiently |
| 4665s | i think that's something you've placed |
| 4667s | on yourself |
| 4669s | um will we see more self-contained |
| 4671s | dungeons in the future also dungeons |
| 4673s | that have |
| 4674s | a very high reward but are still very |
| 4677s | hard to access so just simply |
| 4679s | dropping a key wouldn't |
| 4680s | would already be uh an exciting moment |
| 4685s | i i think we may have gone a little too |
| 4686s | far the other way with keys |
| 4689s | uh drop rates like they might be too |
| 4690s | common now i don't know sorry it's |
| 4692s | really hard to get a feel for that |
| 4693s | exactly |
| 4694s | um |
| 4695s | i think they might be a little too |
| 4696s | common now |
| 4698s | a lot of the things in dungeons were |
| 4700s | just a little bit different from each |
| 4702s | other um that was very intentional |
| 4704s | where there are certain things that like |
| 4706s | yeah the likes of some of them are |
| 4707s | basically completely self-contained with |
| 4709s | the |
| 4709s | um |
| 4712s | uh |
| 4713s | so far bastion where like |
| 4715s | anything you have outside of the game is |
| 4717s | kind of irrelevant uh for the full-on |
| 4719s | rewards of that |
| 4720s | uh and that's really intentional |
| 4722s | compared to how like this arbor requires |
| 4724s | you to have a bunch of gold now you do |
| 4726s | get gold in the dungeon so you will |
| 4728s | always get some reward and you get a |
| 4730s | reward from the boss drops as well |
| 4733s | i mean i guess if you go in with zero |
| 4734s | gold you might not get much of the wave |
| 4735s | reward but anyways |
| 4737s | um |
| 4742s | what am i getting at here um |
| 4745s | we've we've definitely learned a lot |
| 4746s | from those dungeons and that they were |
| 4749s | all experiments on at least one axis |
| 4753s | um and i don't think that there is |
| 4756s | personally i don't think there's |
| 4757s | anything inherently wrong |
| 4759s | with either having self-contained or |
| 4763s | dungeons that require external resources |
| 4765s | to take full advantage of |
| 4769s | and maybe full advantage of the wrong |
| 4770s | word take uh optimal advantage of what |
| 4773s | was the term used |
| 4775s | efficient efficiently yeah so like |
| 4777s | uh having peak efficiency is |
| 4780s | something that a very small subset of |
| 4782s | players |
| 4783s | strive for i think |
| 4786s | um |
| 4791s | and and |
| 4792s | it's not something that we discount but |
| 4795s | it is something that |
| 4797s | um |
| 4800s | i don't know it's it's it's almost like |
| 4801s | a burden |
| 4805s | that isn't really there |
| 4809s | that's a bad way because it is really |
| 4810s | there uh i don't know i don't know how |
| 4812s | to explain this at all |
| 4814s | i think it's good to have both |
| 4818s | i hope i hope that answers it properly |
| 4831s | i really like having um |
| 4834s | the plus all attributes and and most |
| 4837s | uniques if you've picked them up |
| 4838s | recently you've seen them recently |
| 4839s | they've got to plus all attributes is |
| 4841s | because it was going through design i |
| 4842s | know i know i'm going to like so much of |
| 4844s | this puzzle attributes is just useless |
| 4846s | um and quite often when you see that |
| 4848s | puzzle attributes on items because uh we |
| 4850s | were like debating the item and i was |
| 4851s | like let's put plus electrics on it i |
| 4853s | like pitch that for basically every item |
| 4855s | i don't know i just love having plus all |
| 4857s | attributes on different items because i |
| 4859s | hate seeing zeroes here |
| 4871s | okay let's keep going |
| 4877s | gun powder hasn't been invented then |
| 4879s | what are the canons doing in the |
| 4882s | imperial era magic |
| 4883s | uh why use mana cost skills when all |
| 4886s | classes have op non-mana management |
| 4889s | builds i personally think the high mana |
| 4891s | melee skills need 10 times the power |
| 4893s | that they |
| 4894s | got to compare with |
| 4895s | compare with current zero op stuff i |
| 4899s | i think that might be a little bit of |
| 4900s | exaggeration |
| 4902s | but i understand where you're coming |
| 4903s | from |
| 4915s | like and and so i guess are you saying |
| 4917s | that you you want to deal 10 times the |
| 4919s | damage to take the |
| 4921s | lower cost skills off your bar or to put |
| 4923s | the higher cost skills on your bar in |
| 4925s | the first place |
| 4927s | and if it's to take to take the lower |
| 4929s | cost skills off your bar then there's a |
| 4932s | there's a disconnect in the goals there |
| 4934s | because that's not the goal |
| 4945s | like so i i |
| 4947s | in the build i'm playing right now i've |
| 4948s | got i've got two abilities that i'm |
| 4949s | using and i'm i'm weaving them in based |
| 4951s | on the situation and what's happening |
| 4953s | um |
| 4955s | and then i've got like so i've got two |
| 4957s | offensive abilities that i'm actively |
| 4959s | using both of them on |
| 4960s | and and like i know man is not a big |
| 4962s | deal in this bill but one of them costs |
| 4964s | 40 and one of them causes zero and i am |
| 4966s | very actively using both of them |
| 4969s | um |
| 4971s | based on the situation i think that's a |
| 4973s | really good thing personally |
| 4976s | um i wouldn't want to buff hail of |
| 4978s | arrows enough to take puncture off my |
| 4979s | bar and i wouldn't |
| 4981s | want to nerf hillary's enough to take |
| 4984s | haloveros off my bar you know that sort |
| 4985s | of thing |
| 4995s | i know there's a lot of builds that |
| 4996s | there's no reason to put the hail of |
| 4998s | arrows style ability on your bar |
| 5001s | and there might be a puncture build like |
| 5002s | there probably is a puncture build where |
| 5004s | you don't need hail of arrows on there |
| 5005s | at all but i really like playing with |
| 5007s | with multiple things to do |
| 5010s | um |
| 5012s | and i guess it's it's just giving people |
| 5014s | the ability to |
| 5016s | to do more than one thing if they want |
| 5018s | and having it be |
| 5019s | functional and fun and playable and and |
| 5022s | not just |
| 5023s | like |
| 5025s | strictly worse than that makes any sense |
| 5031s | as long as they're in the conversation |
| 5042s | happening |
| 5051s | catching up |
| 5053s | catching up |
| 5054s | oh i missed oh there you go then okay |
| 5057s | uh what's your favorite sound effect in |
| 5059s | last epoch |
| 5060s | oh that's a tough one um |
| 5063s | i've got a great answer to this question |
| 5065s | my favorite sound effect is when it's |
| 5066s | not in the game yet i'm going to share |
| 5068s | it with you right now holy |
| 5072s | looks a little bigger |
| 5075s | it comes with |
| 5077s | vfx too |
| 5084s | yeah i'm still on screen |
| 5098s | oh it's not playing the audio is it |
| 5101s | no |
| 5102s | is it playing the audio i just can't |
| 5104s | hear it |
| 5110s | well i'm hoping it plays together it's |
| 5112s | got a cool sound that goes with it |
| 5115s | uh see this is our new level up vfx |
| 5118s | uh and audio if it's playing i hope it |
| 5120s | is |
| 5120s | oh i got a message from rhymer i bet |
| 5122s | it's not playing the audio |
| 5124s | it is oh sweet cool |
| 5129s | uh yeah there we go |
| 5133s | getting a little bit of that like |
| 5135s | time theme i'm doing on that screen a |
| 5136s | little bit of that time theming in there |
| 5139s | i can't see my cursor behind that |
| 5140s | anyways whatever |
| 5149s | i understand the self-imposed desire to |
| 5151s | use it as efficient as possible but the |
| 5154s | dungeons are simply not worth or fun |
| 5156s | enough to just play them |
| 5161s | i disagree with that statement |
| 5167s | and like i sorry i shouldn't say this i |
| 5169s | i think a more accurate statement would |
| 5171s | be i understand self-imposed desire to |
| 5173s | use it as efficiently and possible but |
| 5174s | the dungeons simply are not worthwhile |
| 5176s | or fun enough to just play them for me |
| 5179s | would i think be an accurate statement |
| 5180s | but like |
| 5181s | for me they're not that for me they're |
| 5183s | just fun |
| 5185s | um |
| 5187s | i i do think that there's room for |
| 5189s | improvement in a lot of them |
| 5192s | um |
| 5208s | but also if they're not just fun to play |
| 5211s | wouldn't you prefer them to need |
| 5213s | external |
| 5214s | uh requirements so that you play them as |
| 5216s | few as times as possible |
| 5220s | maybe maybe i've completely missed the |
| 5221s | point you're trying to make there |
| 5225s | that's entirely possible |
| 5228s | uh i feel dungeons need to be at least |
| 5230s | monolith efficiency in reward to time to |
| 5232s | be worth the key if they aren't then why |
| 5234s | you pick up the key |
| 5236s | yeah and and |
| 5237s | they are supposed to be |
| 5254s | they're supposed to be on the same a |
| 5256s | similar level part of the problem as |
| 5257s | well is that monolith is a |
| 5260s | uh so dungeons are a fixed experience |
| 5262s | and the monolith is a variable |
| 5264s | experience that that can scale it has no |
| 5266s | cap on the scaling |
| 5267s | so it's it's almost impossible to get |
| 5270s | those numbers to line up at every level |
| 5273s | um |
| 5277s | and |
| 5278s | i i i noticed some of the people that |
| 5280s | are that are commenting on this right |
| 5282s | now are |
| 5283s | i i would suggest probably in the |
| 5286s | higher |
| 5287s | uh level of |
| 5289s | um |
| 5291s | uh experience and uh character power |
| 5295s | uh |
| 5296s | like like you |
| 5297s | especially heavy in air where i i |
| 5299s | recognize your names quite a lot from |
| 5301s | for a very long time you probably know a |
| 5303s | lot more than the average player you |
| 5304s | probably have a lot better gear than the |
| 5306s | average player you know that sort of |
| 5307s | thing so it is difficult to get those |
| 5309s | two things to line up |
| 5312s | at every level and you might be sort of |
| 5314s | like outside of the range of where that |
| 5316s | lines up you know |
| 5324s | uh i i think we'll also start to see |
| 5327s | less disparity |
| 5329s | on the system as a whole as we get just |
| 5331s | get more dungeons in |
| 5332s | it is very much designed to be |
| 5334s | um |
| 5336s | expanded upon |
| 5338s | big time |
| 5339s | and we'll we'll see changes to it as it |
| 5340s | goes we'll see new types of dungeons |
| 5342s | with new mechanics that will we'll take |
| 5344s | the stuff that we learned we already |
| 5345s | like threw out three different dungeons |
| 5348s | that we had considered quite heavily |
| 5350s | based on feedback we got from the |
| 5351s | dungeons that we put in |
| 5353s | and you know so like there's |
| 5354s | there's already changes happening to the |
| 5355s | dungeons because we're like well people |
| 5357s | like this they didn't like this for the |
| 5359s | most part and like well this plane was |
| 5361s | gonna have this so but people don't seem |
| 5362s | to like that in this dungeon so i guess |
| 5364s | we'll take that idea off the table and |
| 5366s | you know things like that and like oh we |
| 5367s | had thrown this idea out but people |
| 5369s | didn't seem to really like that style of |
| 5371s | thing this other dungeon so maybe we'll |
| 5372s | add it back in with some changes and |
| 5374s | stuff like that |
| 5378s | it's not like to carry back to a |
| 5379s | question as well we got asked earlier |
| 5381s | with um |
| 5383s | all of the uh |
| 5386s | uh cycle content |
| 5388s | um |
| 5390s | new and modified versions of existing |
| 5392s | dungeons is definitely a thing that we |
| 5394s | can we can add into cycles that i think |
| 5395s | is would be really positive |
| 5397s | um |
| 5402s | uh a way to expand the content without |
| 5405s | without adding too much stuff because i |
| 5407s | think one of the things that causes |
| 5409s | um |
| 5411s | more |
| 5412s | more bloat in a system like path of |
| 5414s | exiles is when when the systems when the |
| 5416s | new systems tie into the old |
| 5419s | uh very heavily |
| 5423s | where um |
| 5425s | they're sort of like required to to to |
| 5427s | happen and i mean like |
| 5428s | you can |
| 5429s | if if the um |
| 5432s | baltimore certain fate is |
| 5434s | not efficient enough for you you don't |
| 5436s | have to interact with it and the only |
| 5438s | unique things that come out of that |
| 5439s | dungeon are the boss rewards right |
| 5456s | but it's all great feedback and i'm |
| 5457s | really happy that the conversation is |
| 5458s | going right |
| 5461s | sorry i guess i should probably |
| 5463s | pull back a little bit here and say |
| 5465s | that i do appreciate the feedback and i |
| 5467s | think it is really good feedback |
| 5470s | i'm not trying to discount the feedback |
| 5488s | all right |
| 5493s | continuing back to the the mana cost for |
| 5496s | skill power conversation |
| 5499s | uh why use a high mana skill while with |
| 5502s | the same amount of time i get mana back |
| 5505s | i can out dps that skill with zero mana |
| 5507s | usage yeah yeah okay so i think that |
| 5509s | just comes from |
| 5511s | those zero mana skills are a little too |
| 5512s | powerful probably for the most part |
| 5516s | and i i don't i don't yeah so like i |
| 5518s | agree with you that it is there's |
| 5519s | probably still disparity there |
| 5521s | um |
| 5525s | but i think 10 times might be a little |
| 5527s | over the top |
| 5545s | might |
| 5552s | and there are other factors there as |
| 5553s | well so like |
| 5554s | um |
| 5557s | like like |
| 5558s | here's a really basic example but like |
| 5561s | with |
| 5562s | puncture i mean that it's okay with |
| 5564s | puncture i have to be able to hit |
| 5566s | a fairly specific point to hit something |
| 5568s | so there's some element of skill there |
| 5571s | with |
| 5572s | um |
| 5572s | hail of arrows the space that i have to |
| 5574s | hit is |
| 5576s | unbelievably huge by comparison so |
| 5578s | there's there is an element of like |
| 5581s | some abilities are easier to play with |
| 5583s | um and that gets factored as well but if |
| 5586s | you are a player that is incredibly |
| 5587s | skilled uh that suddenly becomes much |
| 5590s | less of a factor because you don't need |
| 5592s | to |
| 5593s | um |
| 5594s | you don't you don't worry about that |
| 5595s | because you're like oh i can hit things |
| 5596s | with either it doesn't matter and i know |
| 5599s | hitting things with puncture isn't hard |
| 5600s | but um |
| 5602s | it's it's not a completely |
| 5605s | uh zero |
| 5608s | [Music] |
| 5610s | impact portion of the skill |
| 5629s | not uh with their cooldowns it often |
| 5632s | feels like you're uh you need a zero |
| 5633s | cost skill anyway in between and you're |
| 5635s | often better off overall just focus on |
| 5637s | that one than to manage the mana cycle |
| 5639s | yeah that makes sense um |
| 5645s | we might need to just improve synergies |
| 5646s | between low and high cost skills in |
| 5648s | general so like using the high cost |
| 5650s | skills makes your low cost skills better |
| 5652s | or something like that |
| 5655s | so like the way to get the most out of |
| 5658s | puncture would be to use something like |
| 5660s | hail of arrows and i'll keep using those |
| 5661s | as an example because i'm just |
| 5664s | playing with it right now |
| 5671s | that was considering high medical skills |
| 5672s | and kids just like mine to watch out |
| 5676s | for the audio |
| 5678s | i wish there was like little time stamps |
| 5680s | beside these i better catch that on |
| 5682s | actually |
| 5683s | uh what would make dungeons way cooler |
| 5685s | would be |
| 5686s | door modifiers that actually impact the |
| 5688s | dungeon rewards instead of having |
| 5690s | generically and replaceable modifiers |
| 5692s | like this arbor and temporal sanctum |
| 5694s | modifiers are very boring sulfide |
| 5695s | bashing modifiers are so much cooler |
| 5698s | yeah i i would agree with that |
| 5705s | we were a little hesitant |
| 5708s | uh about the |
| 5710s | the sulphide bastion modifiers |
| 5717s | that's what i mean about like |
| 5719s | they were all kind of experiments in |
| 5720s | different ways |
| 5721s | because we're still experimenting we're |
| 5722s | still trying to figure out what uh what |
| 5724s | works what doesn't |
| 5726s | what's fun what's |
| 5727s | not |
| 5729s | so pretty well every feature is an |
| 5730s | experiment in some way |
| 5733s | i barely played uh since 8-5 due to irl |
| 5736s | stuff and so far the new dungeons |
| 5738s | haven't been able to draw me back in |
| 5739s | over other games fair enough i'm biased |
| 5741s | awards reworks and new masteries hint uh |
| 5743s | but i feel little to no endorphins on |
| 5745s | getting a new dungeons and drops yeah |
| 5747s | and that's |
| 5749s | makes total sense there's there's all |
| 5750s | sorts of different players that like |
| 5751s | different things and different things |
| 5752s | besides you um |
| 5757s | it's not happening |
| 5760s | like |
| 5760s | the the the the the big thing with and |
| 5763s | like i don't begrudge you for not |
| 5764s | playing because we're not releasing the |
| 5766s | things that are exciting to you that |
| 5767s | makes total sense |
| 5768s | uh |
| 5770s | totally fair um |
| 5774s | just to sort of like |
| 5778s | i guess reassured the |
| 5780s | masteries aren't |
| 5782s | out yet because releasing them now |
| 5785s | would delay the entire game |
| 5789s | [Music] |
| 5795s | so in an attempt to |
| 5798s | finish the whole game sooner |
| 5800s | they got delayed |
| 5803s | [Music] |
| 5808s | which i know i've said before several |
| 5809s | times |
| 5811s | i don't think i said the stream |
| 5820s | uh the ui work you did on the map was |
| 5822s | amazing i find though that the campaign |
| 5825s | is really confusing on it it's tricky to |
| 5827s | do the whole time travel stuff in a |
| 5829s | map where you're like moving different |
| 5831s | areas it's it's it's still tough and |
| 5833s | there's improvements to have there i |
| 5834s | agree |
| 5835s | um but it's getting a lot better i think |
| 5837s | we're making big strides in the right |
| 5839s | direction um |
| 5841s | also like where is too much hand holding |
| 5843s | this |
| 5844s | like where's the line there i don't know |
| 5846s | um |
| 5847s | the campaign over overall is getting |
| 5851s | quite a bit of work done on it over the |
| 5853s | next while like that's something that is |
| 5855s | still evolving and |
| 5857s | um |
| 5858s | there's a lot of work that's being done |
| 5859s | on the campaign |
| 5861s | the the presentation of it the structure |
| 5863s | of it the |
| 5864s | pacing of it |
| 5866s | um |
| 5867s | all that |
| 5875s | the fact that we switch ears is already |
| 5877s | confusing to follow but we don't even |
| 5878s | have a ch have the chapter we are in |
| 5881s | displayed on the map although knowing |
| 5883s | which area corresponds to which chapter |
| 5884s | is impossible to see on the map right |
| 5886s | now |
| 5887s | yeah okay that's a good point having the |
| 5888s | chapters there probably would be really |
| 5890s | useful there's a little bit of overlap |
| 5891s | but not much you can see what chapter |
| 5893s | you're in by pressing escape |
| 5896s | which i know is like kind of weird and |
| 5900s | oddly unintuitive to have |
| 5902s | having like which chapter each quest was |
| 5903s | part of |
| 5904s | might be useful like in the quest log |
| 5907s | or when you zoom out here having like |
| 5910s | chapter three |
| 5911s | town or something like that might be |
| 5913s | useful |
| 5914s | let's get feedback that's the sort of |
| 5916s | thing that i would encourage you to go |
| 5917s | to our forums and leave a post about |
| 5925s | uh |
| 5926s | would you ever add the dungeon bosses as |
| 5928s | modified fights in the monoliths so that |
| 5931s | our uniques are obtainable a different |
| 5932s | way unlikely but possibly |
| 5935s | um |
| 5936s | is very intentionally distinct and |
| 5938s | separate um |
| 5945s | maybe |
| 5956s | it it like |
| 5960s | i i i if if the hypoth like so if the |
| 5962s | goal is to i know this probably isn't |
| 5964s | the goal that you're going for here with |
| 5965s | the suggestion but if the goal were to |
| 5967s | make key drops more exciting this would |
| 5969s | have the exact opposite effect |
| 5986s | uh will the shaman mastery rework remain |
| 5988s | theming on cold lightning or will it |
| 5990s | lean away from cold damage due to the |
| 5992s | emphasis on cold element druid received |
| 5994s | uh |
| 5996s | the |
| 5998s | the the shaman's primary theming is |
| 6000s | around um |
| 6004s | like uh like the wrath of nature i would |
| 6007s | i would put that like the um |
| 6009s | the the elemental wrath of nature |
| 6012s | is sort of i guess |
| 6014s | that's a bad tag line there's there's |
| 6015s | there's a clever way to word that that |
| 6017s | sounds awesome in there i promise i |
| 6019s | don't know what it is but i bet it's |
| 6020s | there |
| 6021s | um and |
| 6023s | one of the primary |
| 6025s | elements that nature has at its at its |
| 6027s | disposal is cold |
| 6032s | if you're if you're unprepared in the |
| 6033s | wilderness |
| 6035s | dying to exposure is one of the most |
| 6036s | common and that's just a fancy way of |
| 6038s | saying you got too cold |
| 6045s | [Music] |
| 6048s | not happening |
| 6057s | i guess where i am |
| 6059s | you got too cold |
| 6066s | easy too easy |
| 6068s | um but yeah i i would say there's uh |
| 6070s | cold lightning physical are the three |
| 6072s | primary |
| 6073s | elements of primalist |
| 6076s | and that has no intention of changing |
| 6081s | and poison cold lightning physical |
| 6082s | points but shaman's less on the poison |
| 6089s | got my beetle |
| 6104s | not happening |
| 6119s | yeah i might have to drop something for |
| 6120s | that |
| 6129s | could you see major changes to all |
| 6131s | bosses for high-end content major |
| 6134s | changes to all bosses is an unbelievable |
| 6136s | amount of work so |
| 6138s | just right there like maybe but like |
| 6142s | that's a huge project |
| 6144s | uh like empowered monolith or possibly |
| 6146s | third model to fake difficulty |
| 6149s | same boss fight more complex mechanics |
| 6151s | path magazine did this as well in |
| 6153s | sentinel with uber pinnacle bosses |
| 6156s | getting new mechanics i think that gives |
| 6158s | you as devs really good room to design |
| 6160s | even more epic boss fights without |
| 6161s | overpowering new players yeah i think |
| 6163s | that um as we get more campaign in to go |
| 6167s | further |
| 6168s | uh |
| 6169s | and as we get more more updates to the |
| 6172s | um |
| 6175s | to the like monolith and other endgame |
| 6177s | mechanics |
| 6178s | i would i would |
| 6179s | be |
| 6180s | more interested in mechanically updating |
| 6183s | the current empowered versions |
| 6185s | rather than adding in a third tier |
| 6188s | um |
| 6190s | and and and having boss fights change |
| 6192s | more as you go to harder versions of |
| 6194s | them i think is a great idea and we |
| 6196s | we're already doing that a little bit we |
| 6197s | try and do it more and more as we go |
| 6198s | further um |
| 6201s | i think that their needs like we don't |
| 6203s | really have |
| 6204s | any bosses that fit in the same category |
| 6207s | as |
| 6208s | the like uber pinnacle bosses or just |
| 6210s | uber bosses and poe in general |
| 6212s | yet |
| 6214s | um |
| 6215s | because there is this infinite scaling |
| 6217s | measure that goes on with with |
| 6220s | the monoliths i'm not sure that the |
| 6222s | um |
| 6223s | monolith bosses are the right place to |
| 6225s | do that it might be |
| 6227s | um |
| 6229s | but we'll see i i there's definitely |
| 6231s | room for uh |
| 6234s | like capstone boss content that doesn't |
| 6236s | exist yet |
| 6242s | here's multiplayer ever coming out don't |
| 6243s | forget to at last game with a question |
| 6245s | if you want me to answer it yes it's |
| 6246s | definitely ever coming out |
| 6248s | uh yes you can turn timestamps on with |
| 6251s | the settings menu interesting i will |
| 6253s | have to look that up |
| 6264s | escape is for irl calls |
| 6267s | why would i ever press it |
| 6269s | it doesn't even pause the game |
| 6276s | it does uh in the editor though when |
| 6278s | we're working on it |
| 6279s | which i find funny |
| 6283s | uh you know what we are i i've been so |
| 6285s | stingy with you all |
| 6287s | i'm sorry |
| 6289s | need to apologize |
| 6290s | my bad |
| 6293s | hey look at this cool thing |
| 6295s | i wonder what that could be i bet it's |
| 6297s | not related to anything i put up last |
| 6299s | week |
| 6306s | yeah so this is uh |
| 6309s | the uh updated visuals for the summon |
| 6313s | bear skill for the prime list |
| 6316s | which i'm so excited about |
| 6320s | see you later theodore move over |
| 6326s | uh you mean cold physical totem melee vs |
| 6329s | spell and lightning only slapped on to |
| 6331s | other things rarely being focused itself |
| 6332s | right i came totally not shaman for life |
| 6335s | yeah |
| 6337s | there's some destruction that needs to |
| 6338s | happen a little bit but yeah it's |
| 6340s | um |
| 6343s | those are all themes but as far as |
| 6345s | elements go like if we're talking so |
| 6347s | when i was talking about this i'm just |
| 6348s | like |
| 6349s | like so we usually pick somewhere in the |
| 6351s | range of three to four of these elements |
| 6353s | for each class |
| 6355s | um |
| 6356s | and so |
| 6357s | primalist is these four in the middle |
| 6360s | lightning through poison that's |
| 6361s | primalist |
| 6364s | and like um |
| 6365s | sentinel for example is |
| 6367s | uh fire physical |
| 6370s | void |
| 6371s | um |
| 6372s | and then they get some stuff with |
| 6374s | lightning as well as there's there's |
| 6375s | forever that creeping in |
| 6377s | um |
| 6378s | and you can make builds like i saw a |
| 6380s | poison |
| 6381s | someone was streaming they were doing a |
| 6382s | poison uh warpath build so like it works |
| 6385s | it's there you can do it it's just not |
| 6386s | the primary focus |
| 6387s | um and like mage is these three here you |
| 6390s | know |
| 6392s | and acolyte is these four on the end |
| 6394s | it's basically everything other than |
| 6396s | major and accolade are kind of inverse |
| 6397s | of each other |
| 6398s | um so there's like |
| 6400s | and there's there's overlaps there |
| 6402s | because you can do fire things in |
| 6403s | acolyte now |
| 6405s | um |
| 6406s | yeah |
| 6411s | demons dead on |
| 6413s | demon's dad |
| 6415s | demons demon's dad on what |
| 6418s | demons dead on has subbed for twitch |
| 6419s | prime thank you very much |
| 6421s | as i fumble through your name like an |
| 6423s | idiot |
| 6424s | my bad |
| 6426s | i realized as well that i was just |
| 6429s | referencing the things with the screen |
| 6432s | open |
| 6433s | sorry |
| 6437s | i was |
| 6438s | i was sectioning off these so like |
| 6439s | shaman is |
| 6441s | primeless is these four here |
| 6443s | that's what i was trying to say |
| 6445s | there's people telling me that now i'm |
| 6447s | just going to sorry |
| 6452s | wait is the bearer a dlc |
| 6459s | um |
| 6460s | a subtle callback to the start of the |
| 6463s | dlc flood gate um |
| 6466s | which is which is horse armor in |
| 6469s | um oblivion it's oblivion |
| 6474s | what's wrong with oblivion or skyrim |
| 6483s | it was oblivion okay |
| 6485s | i thought it was oblivion |
| 6488s | not losing my mind it is it is not uh |
| 6493s | um |
| 6495s | a dlc armor no that's just what the bear |
| 6496s | will look like |
| 6504s | [Music] |
| 6506s | oh new bear yeah new bear |
| 6508s | aaron i think you were you were |
| 6509s | mentioning something about a bear in |
| 6512s | on your last podcast or something you're |
| 6513s | talking like oh we're gonna get like see |
| 6515s | new bear visuals soon or something |
| 6518s | i was like yeah real soon |
| 6531s | all right |
| 6534s | is it just a visual update or is the |
| 6536s | skill getting update too um the skills |
| 6538s | definitely update too this is something |
| 6540s | i've talked about before uh we we didn't |
| 6543s | want to do a skill update for |
| 6546s | so okay uh saber summon sabertooth uh |
| 6549s | sum and bear |
| 6550s | are are both extremely old skills |
| 6554s | and we've wanted to do updates to a lot |
| 6556s | of their functionality in their in their |
| 6558s | trees for quite a while now um |
| 6561s | but a lot of those changes came with |
| 6562s | them uh vfx changes uh model change |
| 6566s | visual changes like uh and just stuff |
| 6568s | that we didn't have |
| 6570s | we would have to do the modeling of the |
| 6572s | vfx for them |
| 6574s | uh for these changes and we |
| 6576s | knew that we wanted to update the |
| 6577s | visuals to a new style on both of those |
| 6580s | skills um and gollum same answer for |
| 6582s | golem here uh |
| 6584s | and so we didn't want to do the work to |
| 6587s | change them visually |
| 6590s | and then |
| 6591s | update their visuals and have to do all |
| 6593s | of that work again |
| 6595s | so we were holding off on |
| 6598s | um |
| 6600s | doing the doing the functional changes |
| 6602s | to the to those three skill trees before |
| 6604s | we did any |
| 6605s | um until we had visual changes ready to |
| 6607s | go for them |
| 6609s | and then uh on top of that there's |
| 6617s | what was i'm going to say |
| 6623s | primeless oh yes and then so the |
| 6626s | creating those new visuals for them |
| 6629s | um |
| 6630s | competes with a lot of other things as |
| 6632s | well so um i know a lot of people have |
| 6634s | been talking about like uh like okay |
| 6637s | we're doing cosmetic ntx anything like |
| 6638s | that and we want to make uh stuff for |
| 6641s | that but oh you can't do that until |
| 6642s | you've got the models for everything in |
| 6644s | game to actually look right so before we |
| 6646s | can do |
| 6647s | before we could work on the |
| 6649s | bare and saber tooth and golem models we |
| 6652s | had to |
| 6653s | work on the like having this hat |
| 6655s | actually look like this hat |
| 6657s | so that um |
| 6659s | we can also because because though that |
| 6661s | project |
| 6662s | of replacing all the gear models was |
| 6664s | blocking the project for mtx as well |
| 6669s | so there's like is this just like |
| 6670s | cascading like okay well this has that |
| 6673s | before that it says them for that |
| 6674s | and um |
| 6676s | finding how to do it most efficiently so |
| 6678s | the fewest things are blocked as |
| 6679s | possible is |
| 6681s | is really important |
| 6686s | that's why having |
| 6688s | good project management is really |
| 6690s | important |
| 6694s | shout out to the project managers |
| 6697s | [Music] |
| 6710s | i think i might play this build a little |
| 6712s | bit longer than some of the other ones |
| 6713s | because i actually want to get into |
| 6714s | empowered everything i might make a |
| 6715s | proper loot filter |
| 6718s | or if you guys are getting bored of it i |
| 6719s | might switch up something new |
| 6722s | that fight at the end of last stream |
| 6723s | with the uh |
| 6725s | um |
| 6728s | oh what's it called the the the rogue |
| 6731s | arena champion was just so great |
| 6733s | afterwards i'm like i just want to keep |
| 6734s | playing this bill this character i just |
| 6735s | want to keep going like no save it for |
| 6737s | stream mic save it for stream |
| 6747s | all right sir see you soon booting up my |
| 6749s | stream see you in |
| 6752s | i'll be there in about 18 minutes but |
| 6756s | everyone else will join you sooner |
| 6762s | uh that would be mcfluffin doing a ruby |
| 6764s | fanboy yeah okay |
| 6767s | that was the poison uh um |
| 6770s | whirlwind |
| 6771s | that's a good way to do |
| 6778s | a it bit for the lulls |
| 6782s | selfish request about speedrunning will |
| 6784s | it be possible to still interact with ui |
| 6786s | elements when i click on time rifts |
| 6788s | talking about the fade to black clicking |
| 6789s | out before having to change the time |
| 6791s | animation extremely unlikely |
| 6794s | um |
| 6796s | easy too easy |
| 6799s | i think more likely it would be like a |
| 6802s | ability to like just skip the whole |
| 6804s | thing entirely |
| 6808s | then than being yeah |
| 6812s | maybe |
| 6816s | that's i'll i'll be real honest with you |
| 6818s | about this and it's not going to be what |
| 6820s | you want to hear |
| 6822s | um especially when we're in this early |
| 6825s | stage still we're still in early access |
| 6826s | we're still trying to get the core game |
| 6827s | finished |
| 6828s | speed running is not a core |
| 6831s | functionality to the game |
| 6833s | um it's something we love and we want to |
| 6836s | support as much as we can |
| 6837s | um if the decision comes down to |
| 6840s | should we make this |
| 6841s | feature that literally everyone has to |
| 6843s | interact with or should we make this |
| 6845s | feature that like |
| 6846s | a really tiny subset of players will |
| 6850s | have a small impact on |
| 6852s | um |
| 6854s | because that would be nice but it's not |
| 6855s | the end of the world type thing |
| 6859s | it gets pushed down the list a |
| 6862s | and bit |
| 6862s | hope you can understand that |
| 6866s | it's just not uh |
| 6868s | we have to prioritize |
| 6870s | in order to get it done |
| 6872s | like if if we were just like |
| 6874s | willing to do whatever i mean years |
| 6876s | before we were done so |
| 6878s | a lot of cool stuff in there |
| 6880s | oh i probably should have gone here only |
| 6881s | five minutes left i'm gonna rapid fire |
| 6883s | these questions off |
| 6886s | without getting us any details can you |
| 6887s | get a glance at what damage types the |
| 6889s | three missing masteries will most likely |
| 6891s | focus on overlap being a chronic fire |
| 6893s | focus that'll get your physical remaster |
| 6894s | also all three elements i would say the |
| 6896s | only thing i can say about this is that |
| 6898s | the elements you will not see any major |
| 6900s | deviations from the base class uh |
| 6903s | elements that are available so falconer |
| 6906s | will have roughly the same cla elements |
| 6908s | available as |
| 6909s | um blade dancer and marksman rogue as a |
| 6912s | whole |
| 6912s | rune master will have roughly the same |
| 6914s | elements available as |
| 6916s | mage sorcerer and spellblade and warlock |
| 6919s | will have roughly the same elements |
| 6920s | available as |
| 6921s | uh acolyte necromancer and lich and i |
| 6924s | say roughly the same because there could |
| 6926s | be focuses that shift or like anyone |
| 6927s | that gets out of the inner one that kind |
| 6928s | of gets dropped a little bit but for the |
| 6930s | most part they're roughly pretty similar |
| 6937s | opinions on the community unique event |
| 6938s | results community response etc i mean |
| 6942s | uh i do have a lot right at the end and |
| 6944s | i kind of want to answer this more in |
| 6945s | depth but |
| 6947s | it is |
| 6948s | uh i i love the amount of engagement |
| 6950s | that happened out of it um i definitely |
| 6953s | think we made a couple little |
| 6956s | slips |
| 6957s | the biggest problem that happened i |
| 6959s | think is we were we were concerned it |
| 6960s | would take too long and people kind of |
| 6962s | lose interest so we tried to condense |
| 6964s | things down a little bit and we may have |
| 6965s | condensed it down a tiny bit too much |
| 6968s | um which i was on the team of let's |
| 6970s | condense it down so that was partially |
| 6973s | fault out of here |
| 6973s | i'm just my |
| 6975s | um |
| 6976s | but i'm pumped for the item that's |
| 6978s | coming |
| 6979s | and |
| 6980s | i think it was very successful so you |
| 6982s | know overall i'd be surprised if if |
| 6984s | nothing like this ever happens again |
| 6985s | type thing |
| 6987s | but after we've learned things because |
| 6989s | we like learning things uh what do you |
| 6991s | think about big echo style maps like uh |
| 6993s | bloodmore where you have to kill all the |
| 6995s | mobs in the mid boss funds with similar |
| 6997s | skills to the main timeline boss to |
| 6999s | teach mechanics of the timeline boss um |
| 7005s | good |
| 7007s | i i do really like that |
| 7010s | that's about all i've got |
| 7013s | uh is the is this confirmation that |
| 7015s | those skills are getting their reworked |
| 7017s | next patch |
| 7018s | uh |
| 7019s | no |
| 7020s | because i don't actually have a list of |
| 7021s | skills that i'm working on for next |
| 7022s | patch yet |
| 7024s | uh all i hear is we prefer to be lazy |
| 7028s | i'm not 100 sure what that was in |
| 7030s | reference to but i don't think that's |
| 7031s | true at all |
| 7034s | uh |
| 7035s | oh this is probably when i was talking |
| 7036s | about the like not wanting to do it |
| 7038s | twice |
| 7040s | this is we have |
| 7041s | like if you have 10 units of time to do |
| 7043s | something in and |
| 7045s | um |
| 7047s | the |
| 7048s | if you had to redo things it would make |
| 7050s | it so you couldn't do everything in |
| 7052s | those 10 units of time uh |
| 7055s | then we |
| 7056s | and we had to like cut content from the |
| 7058s | final game like like |
| 7060s | if this is what i think you're talking |
| 7061s | about like we prefer to have more stuff |
| 7063s | in the in launch game than have our |
| 7066s | early access be a tiny bit better right |
| 7068s | now that makes any sense |
| 7071s | we're playing we're playing the |
| 7074s | we're basically everything we do is like |
| 7076s | get us to launch get us the launch get |
| 7077s | us to launch that's where we're at right |
| 7078s | now is is how do we get to launch with |
| 7080s | the most stuff in the best quality we |
| 7081s | can |
| 7083s | uh if you make content timer based i |
| 7086s | would literally quit |
| 7087s | i'll want to play wow again |
| 7090s | did i say that |
| 7096s | i don't |
| 7097s | if i said anything about like time gated |
| 7099s | content where like you can only do like |
| 7101s | once a week or something like that |
| 7102s | i apologize i don't think i said |
| 7104s | anything like that |
| 7106s | like raid lockouts i was not intending |
| 7108s | to say anything like rated lockouts if |
| 7110s | that's what you're talking about i i |
| 7111s | hope that's not what you meant or i |
| 7113s | don't know what that question is i'm |
| 7114s | sorry |
| 7115s | uh |
| 7115s | i take to highlight your question uh |
| 7118s | is it intentional that we can't make |
| 7120s | hybrid builds with spell attacks |
| 7122s | uh like on my spellblade at some point |
| 7124s | you have to make a choice in game either |
| 7126s | spell or attacks um |
| 7129s | for the most part yes we try to |
| 7132s | give you the tools to go outside the box |
| 7135s | if you want uh |
| 7136s | some of these things that aren't quite |
| 7138s | there for hybrids will probably come |
| 7139s | with uniques in the future |
| 7142s | uh reacts with tags |
| 7144s | uh bolton squad first time chat and a |
| 7147s | tag question look at you you know what |
| 7148s | you're doing i don't know if this has |
| 7150s | been answered before but for multiplayer |
| 7152s | do you have seasons events races etc |
| 7153s | planned do you yes uh do you plan on |
| 7156s | pulling in some of the top pve diablo |
| 7158s | streamers to do so yeah i mean um |
| 7162s | if you're familiar with uh some big pb |
| 7164s | players uh carve |
| 7166s | is |
| 7167s | uh he's been a member of our team for |
| 7169s | years now |
| 7171s | and he's great so we do we do try and |
| 7175s | talk to people who are in |
| 7176s | related communities |
| 7179s | because they have a lot of experience in |
| 7180s | these types of games |
| 7182s | we we had a big stream with uh an |
| 7186s | interview with zizerin who's primarily a |
| 7188s | poe streamer uh that was like last week |
| 7191s | or something |
| 7192s | so that was great uh so yeah we we |
| 7195s | definitely do look into other |
| 7196s | communities |
| 7197s | and we're definitely going to be looking |
| 7198s | at seasons of events races and stuff |
| 7199s | like that so yeah |
| 7202s | and yeah and also to be clear we never |
| 7204s | encourage someone to be like you should |
| 7205s | stop doing that and come do this instead |
| 7207s | it's always just like we see you like |
| 7208s | that you might like this too it's sort |
| 7210s | of the extent of it um |
| 7213s | because there's room for more than one |
| 7214s | awesome action rpg |
| 7219s | can we expect an ellie royale |
| 7224s | [Laughter] |
| 7226s | um |
| 7227s | i think that that was a very successful |
| 7230s | game mode |
| 7231s | um |
| 7233s | the path of excel put in and uh |
| 7237s | i think it'd be a lot of fun |
| 7239s | not gonna not gonna say yes or no to |
| 7241s | that unfortunately however |
| 7243s | we've come to the end of our stream i |
| 7244s | hope you all had fun i know i did |
| 7247s | and to take us out i actually have one |
| 7249s | more thing that i forgot to share so |
| 7251s | here we go right at the wire anyone |
| 7253s | who's still here here's one last uh |
| 7255s | preview for the stream and i'll i feel |
| 7257s | like aaron's already gone so i'll uh |
| 7260s | probably show this again on his stream |
| 7261s | in a minute here but yeah um |
| 7264s | last little thing to take us out |
| 7270s | that's all we've got for you this week i |
| 7271s | hope you had fun |
| 7274s | thanks for stopping by |
| 7276s | we're gonna go say hi to aaron and uh so |
| 7278s | yeah in |
| 7279s | about ten minutes i'm gonna go |
| 7281s | get a drink of water take a quick |
| 7282s | breather catch my breath uh |
| 7285s | and i'll be back we're going to be |
| 7286s | designing a new unique item on aaron's |
| 7288s | stream so i'm going to host over to |
| 7290s | aaron right now um |
| 7292s | if you just go there or you stick around |
| 7293s | there we will be doing his |
| 7296s | unique item creation on stream will be |
| 7297s | about an hour we'll also have uh nifty |
| 7300s | our one of our concept artists coming in |
| 7301s | there doing some concept art for the |
| 7303s | item live as we're talking about it so |
| 7306s | that's gonna be a ton of fun hope to see |
| 7307s | you over there |
| 7310s | there's anything else i missed um |
| 7312s | please feel free to head on over to our |
| 7314s | discord where we do have |
| 7315s | uh there's people always answering |
| 7316s | questions that are asked the dev section |
| 7317s | we also ask the community section if |
| 7319s | it's an easier question um there's tons |
| 7321s | of very knowledgeable people over there |
| 7322s | they'll be happy to answer questions see |
| 7324s | you later |