[2022] Developer Stream 11.4.22 | Last Epoch | Last Epoch Dev Tracker

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3s	foreign
4s	good afternoon everybody and welcome
6s	back to the last Epoch Dev stream
8s	as always I'm your host Mike hello how's
12s	it going everybody
13s	let's just hop right in so
17s	first things first I
21s	um I'm still playing my Fireball Frozen
23s	orb store because uh having a ton of fun
25s	with it and it's uh hits me right in the
27s	feels so we're sticking there
31s	um oh thank you Lone Star mcfluffin
33s	that's an 18 month resub wow
37s	wow right after that thank you
41s	and speaking of which uh we do stream
42s	for charity here and this month's
44s	charity is child's play
48s	um yeah do lots of cool stuff for you
50s	know
51s	kids being able to play and do stuff
53s	check out their website great cause
57s	also kind of appropriate for you know
60s	the the field we're in I guess but yeah
63s	so we're we're still rocking our
66s	um Fireball frozen or sork and while
70s	while it was off off stream I found
75s	um
76s	it's not versions of what I was already
78s	wearing that has a little bit of
79s	legendary potential on it so we're gonna
80s	try and find some cool items uh and make
82s	some legendaries here and if not I've
84s	got some backups ready to go
86s	um just just to have some fun with it
87s	you know
89s	nothing nothing crazy but yeah
93s	it's fun no fun
96s	and if you question for me don't forget
98s	to put out Lassie [ __ ] in the
99s	question so I see it better and we can
101s	hop right in but I do see that we've got
103s	a couple questions here with the gate
104s	that I will answer
106s	um we'll point nine come with big bounce
107s	changes yeah I think there's there's
108s	going to be a lot of balance changes we
110s	haven't hit the big bounce stage of our
113s	patch uh just for 0.9 just yet so most
116s	of that's not done but there are a lot
118s	of system changes that have knock-on
120s	effects and just like the fact that you
122s	add in a new unique item can cause
124s	pretty significant ripples in the
126s	balance world
128s	so yeah there's there's a lot of there's
130s	a lot of things here and there
132s	um that we are gonna be
133s	working on I think this is where we were
135s	last time we died on this one right at
137s	the end
138s	um so let's just keep going have some
140s	fun with this uh try trying to do
142s	Empower and we'll see how it goes
147s	um but yeah there's there's balance
148s	changes and we've we've done a
151s	we've got a bug pass and a language
155s	consistency pass
157s	on literally every single skill and node
159s	in the entire game
163s	um so there's a lot of stuff there a lot
164s	of little things were just like stuff
167s	that no one even noticed
169s	um I've seen I've seen pull requests
171s	come through for recently
173s	um that I think are gonna have a
175s	surprisingly big impact uh once they're
177s	all said and done
185s	not easy
189s	but let's keep going more questions here
190s	any date when multiple comes out no I'm
193s	sorry we don't have a set date for it
194s	yet if you are interested in getting in
196s	early we are still taking people into
198s	our community tester program
200s	um applications are backed up a little
201s	bit there because there is a manuals
203s	portion to that process
205s	um and so we are still still working to
207s	get through that list
208s	um new people get in every day tons of
210s	people are playing there it's great
211s	great to see multiple has been solid
213s	online for a long time now which is very
215s	cool
221s	um
222s	yeah it's going well we just we just put
224s	out a new um CT patch
228s	I want to say like two days ago
234s	with a pretty big mistake in it which
237s	was it was an experiment that we were
239s	testing and uh it didn't work out but
242s	we've we've got we've got another
243s	version for that coming soon oh
246s	sloppy sloppy sloppy it was it was our
249s	our we're just getting our groove back
252s	right
254s	um
255s	yeah
261s	what is this one
263s	let me just deal more damage yeah okay
264s	we can maybe handle that we'll see
269s	apparently we're a squishy boy
274s	um yeah once again if this is your first
276s	time hearing you have a question for me
277s	please put out last debugging in the
279s	question so I see it better
283s	um
284s	teachers
297s	oh wow come on
301s	okay I think what we've learned here is
303s	I'm actually just not good enough to do
304s	empowered I think that's I think that's
306s	what we've learned here we're going to
307s	dial this back a little bit we're just
308s	gonna go down to touch
310s	because yeesh
314s	it's bad
315s	bad
318s	um
320s	let's go I could do a part on a
323s	different one but
328s	this is the 90 I think when multiplayer
332s	when it's ready
334s	have you talked about adding more packs
336s	and increase mob density there's there's
339s	um in the current live version of the
341s	game there is a bug that causes
345s	um
346s	a pretty high variance in pack sizes in
349s	in the monolith and um so we fixed that
352s	and the the on average will be increased
355s	pack sizes but it's not like we're just
357s	taking and turning that dial up it's
359s	part of it is uh bug fix
363s	um
366s	yeah there should there should be some
368s	some increase there in general
370s	and I think it's important to note that
372s	we never plan to have
375s	um
375s	as high density as you might see I mean
378s	the big example is Path of Exile uh we
380s	we do plan to have it be less dense than
383s	that
384s	um we're gonna use that as a benchmark
391s	in German please yeah we're still
392s	working on translations localizations
395s	um we've partnered with a firm that
397s	specializes in video game localization
399s	especially with fantasy style games and
402s	things like that and I will be we'll be
403s	getting that as soon as we can a lot of
405s	it is just setting up the systems to be
407s	able to to localize it because like all
410s	every single one of these skill notes
412s	has to be done it has to be very precise
415s	um
419s	I think we've got to really get our
420s	finish off our resistances there it's
423s	supposed to be a big a big goal
429s	just missed
434s	do you have any idea on the release date
435s	of missing master classes we do it'll be
437s	1.0
444s	do I need to just put like uh
447s	a floating FAQ here for for the when
452s	multiplayer question
456s	because I feel like it's
458s	we're already at like four times
464s	not even 10 minutes in the Stream
468s	um Mac M1 support win we're not planning
471s	on expanding our platform supports uh
474s	free 1.0 and then post 1.0 we can look
477s	at it as a conversation but um
480s	there's uh
482s	there's no active plans for it at the
484s	moment
504s	a couple days ago I asked for a non-ct
506s	multiple update you mentioned that
508s	dungeons were recently added to
509s	multiplayer environments so does that
510s	mean all the core systems are working
512s	right now well I mean Define working
518s	um
519s	he technically there and mostly
523s	functional with a ton of bugs yeah all
525s	the court systems are there
531s	um at a quality level that we'd be happy
533s	releasing and none of the core systems
535s	are there
539s	no they're still still favorite to do
546s	there's a lot of little things that um
550s	that come up
552s	that like you never would expect at
554s	least I wouldn't
559s	um
560s	and and sometimes it's just like
561s	unanticipated play patterns
565s	um
566s	and we're also we also do get a lot of
567s	good feedback that that Sparks
569s	conversations it's not just like a
572s	oh take the feedback and just do
573s	whatever it says but like a lot of it
575s	does sometimes just things that we just
576s	never thought of and it ends up being
578s	something like okay we have to discuss
579s	this now and figure out if we want to do
581s	anything about it
590s	there's a cool thing recently that we've
592s	gotten with emerging animations and MOB
596s	immunity while emerging so there's this
598s	like that uh I care what they're called
601s	where they just like where it like rolls
603s	together just happened a second ago
604s	right there
605s	um where they like the rocks on the
607s	floor like collect together and form a
608s	Golem that fights you but it's really
610s	easy just to kill it in the emerging
612s	State as we call it
614s	um
616s	and so we've recently set up uh
618s	a system to force it to be allowed to
621s	spawn
624s	little things like that that are coming
626s	in still and
627s	um like we talked about this last week
629s	but jumping enemies you can now kill
631s	them in midair they don't technically
633s	die until they until they land at the
635s	end of their jump but
637s	um
640s	like they'll you can bring them to zero
643s	life and then they do land the instant
644s	they hit their own void fuser if that
646s	that was the enemy that rolls together
653s	all right hello is there any plans to
656s	add a new game plus with harder campaign
657s	and multiple difficulties like normal
659s	hard ultimate and more no that's not
660s	something that we're interested in
661s	looking at right now we prefer just to
663s	have the campaign continue if you wanted
664s	to expand the extend the campaign
667s	um and have the difficulties extend
668s	expand that way
670s	um part part of it is that we it lets us
672s	put
674s	um more complex mechanics
676s	later in the campaign so you're if
679s	you're just redoing the campaign on say
682s	nightmare or whatever you kind of can't
683s	well you could you could you can add
685s	things to it a little bit but
688s	um the core functionality of the
689s	mechanics and the storyline everything
690s	that's there has to stay relatively the
692s	same right
693s	um
695s	and and so adding new uh
700s	uh adding any new chapters is we think
702s	it ends up with a better product at the
704s	end and and also like it's a time travel
706s	game like we can do the same area in a
710s	different time and and kind of achieve a
714s	similar effect as well
717s	um like we haven't been to the ancient
718s	era much at all it's our it's our least
720s	utilized era at this point like
723s	um when you're zoomed out this far all
725s	of these that have like this the star
727s	means there's places there and so
729s	there's like five areas and 14. so it's
731s	like there's a lot here and there's
733s	there's a there's a lot here and there's
736s	there's well it's very concentrated here
738s	but there's a lot here you know
740s	um this one
743s	literally nothing there actually are
746s	some areas but they're like
749s	yeah
751s	few and far between
754s	um
758s	yeah
760s	so yeah um still a lot to do in the uh
763s	in the ancient era like how cool does
765s	that look I want to go there
775s	that'd be cool I still don't know if
777s	we're ever gonna do that I hope so
782s	I hope so I mean you get a glimpse of it
784s	I guess a little bit when you're doing
785s	the the main storyline Quest you
786s	actually do show up there briefly
791s	all right
801s	uh hey it's a game Dead Dev how did you
803s	decide to use Unity over other options
806s	also with multiplayer isn't there danger
808s	that a known engine could be more easily
811s	exploitable
812s	um
814s	so as far as the the known engine
816s	exploiting stuff it's
820s	if you've built the multiplayer systems
822s	in such a way that
824s	um I assume we specifically mean for
826s	like multiplayer explaining
828s	um if you've built the system in such a
830s	way that
832s	um
834s	it is exploitable that's it doesn't
836s	matter what engine you're using
839s	uh so it there's really no difference
842s	there
844s	as far as uh how do we decide to pick
847s	unity in the first place
849s	um part of it was so I actually joined
851s	the project a few months after it
854s	started
855s	um and it was it was development was
857s	already in extremely early stages but
860s	there was it was started it was in unity
863s	um and we just rolled with it at that
864s	point a lot of it has to do with what's
866s	available
867s	um looking at the scope that you have
869s	the resources you have what's what's
871s	possible to make something
874s	um and that's a lot of what it is is
875s	that uh while Unity might not be the
879s	like best at this or the most at that or
882s	whatever like for various different
884s	categories it is really good at a lot of
887s	things and one of those things being
888s	just accessibility
891s	um
892s	and and sometimes just getting your foot
894s	in the door is what you need to to get
896s	the ball rolling and I know this is like
898s	the most like generic sounding answer
900s	she doesn't sound like a hockey player
902s	giving a mid period interview or
904s	something
905s	um yeah I just gotta keep keep my head
907s	up through the neutral zone you know
909s	keep keep [ __ ] up I'll keep sticking on
911s	the ice make sure you get that puck to
912s	the to the open man you know just drive
914s	hard to the net and be good you know
915s	just go play our play and Shooters no
917s	um
919s	anyways uh yeah it's it's just it's it
922s	was accessible for us and um you know I
925s	I get this question a fair bit actually
927s	and I wouldn't really change that
929s	decision
930s	um because I don't know if because the
932s	other half this question usually is if
934s	knowing what you know now would you have
935s	changed from you know to do something
936s	else no I don't think I would have
938s	um this wasn't strictly my decision to
941s	make so
942s	um but yeah yeah it was the
945s	there's there's a lot of good stuff that
948s	came out of it
949s	um I don't know if we'd have a game at
951s	all if we didn't choose Unity
954s	um just because of what it afforded us
956s	so yeah
962s	scroll up it's a couple questions behind
965s	here all right next question do you have
967s	any developers working on new classes or
970s	is pretty much all hands on deck for
971s	multiplayer
972s	um well right now the uh development of
976s	new classes is not a active the design
980s	of some new classes is is stuff we're
983s	working on pretty heavily right now
984s	there's a lot of design work that has to
985s	be done before implementation actually
987s	starts to occur
989s	um and so yeah we're pretty heavily in
992s	multiplayer but we do take time to have
993s	design meetings um and sometimes that
996s	focuses around uh multiplayer mechanics
1000s	and things like that sometimes that
1001s	focuses around new classes we recently
1003s	had a pretty big design meeting
1005s	revolving around warlock which was cool
1008s	um
1010s	and there's yeah there's lots of new
1012s	stuff there
1013s	um we changed our mind on a lot of stuff
1014s	that we originally had planned
1017s	um I'm really excited for it I think I
1019s	think this is gonna be
1020s	uh it's gonna be a good one we'll see
1022s	though I mean literally nothing's
1023s	implemented for it yet
1026s	the the fireball's so funny because like
1028s	I showed off the new fireball
1030s	um VFX a few weeks ago and uh I I played
1034s	with it a little bit more while I was
1036s	doing a few things recently and um in
1038s	the editor so in the with like the
1040s	latest builds and everything
1042s	and uh coming going back to this one now
1045s	I'm like it doesn't look as nice it
1048s	still looks really good and I remember
1049s	seeing this one and being Head Over
1050s	Heels about this Fireball and now that
1052s	we've got the even newer better one it's
1055s	just
1055s	yeah you know
1061s	anyways will we ever see new equipment
1064s	slots like pants and shoulders will that
1066s	be too much of a nightmare to rebalance
1068s	uh it's it's not impossible
1072s	um I'd say it's very unlikely at least
1074s	anytime soon but it's not impossible and
1078s	there's a lot of different ways you can
1079s	do
1081s	um
1082s	new item slots uh because something that
1085s	might not be immediately obvious is
1087s	you've got a whole bunch of extra item
1089s	slots right here those are actually
1090s	items they're coded as items
1094s	um if we let you you could pick them up
1096s	and place them in your inventory like
1098s	those are items
1100s	um
1101s	and yeah so there's like there's lots of
1104s	different ways you can do more item
1106s	slots and it doesn't always have to be
1107s	pants or whatever or shoulders
1110s	um
1111s	I think the biggest problem with with
1113s	adding a pants or shoulder slot in is is
1116s	more in the um
1118s	the visuals in that all of our body
1121s	armor so like from your like the top
1124s	cuff of your boots all the way to your
1128s	neck and all the way to your wrists all
1130s	of that is one
1132s	um one slot and the the visuals are
1137s	displayed and designed as such and so we
1139s	have to redo all of those so I think
1141s	that's really the big thing that would
1142s	be limiting for it
1143s	so likely if we were to add more item
1147s	slots
1149s	they would be they'd be more abstract I
1151s	think
1152s	so yeah
1153s	like like like the a common one that
1156s	gets suggested is is um a special slot
1159s	in the middle here
1160s	um that affects the idols in some way
1162s	but yeah that's something that gets like
1164s	it's suggested a fair bit
1169s	which I do think is a great idea
1176s	um
1177s	and and I'll let you know whenever I see
1179s	a question will we ever see blank maybe
1181s	I mean I hope to be still making this
1183s	game
1184s	in 10 years you know like ever's a long
1187s	time
1189s	all right well the will there be
1191s	beginner leveling skills and end game
1194s	viable skills
1195s	um I mean we try to make the skills that
1197s	you unlock at the start of the game
1200s	um straightforward and uh because I'm
1202s	gonna use the word simple and I think
1203s	simple's the wrong term here
1205s	um straightforward and uh like really
1208s	really quick to learn and then
1211s	um
1211s	we like to save the the more complicated
1214s	skills or the
1217s	um the more mechanically deep skills for
1220s	at least at least their pre-specialized
1222s	versions for a little bit later on so um
1225s	you see things like black hole is not a
1227s	starting skill but like lighting glass
1228s	and Fireball are they're pretty basic
1230s	just like I'm gonna shoot a Elemental
1232s	projectile at G type that skill
1234s	and
1237s	um so yeah we do try and have that
1238s	progression be from like easier
1242s	beginners like starting out skills to
1245s	um more complex things that maybe rely
1247s	on other skills there's more interaction
1248s	there's more setup required
1252s	um
1253s	but we still try and make it so that the
1255s	those these emails early skills are
1257s	still late game viable lighting Blast
1259s	has been continues to be a a Powerhouse
1263s	of an ability even right through very
1266s	end game super in-game viable stuff so
1269s	like I I think that as that's the one
1271s	you start with like it's your opening
1273s	skill
1274s	um so we really try not to to break
1276s	skills into those categories but really
1278s	have skills that can fulfill different
1281s	roles
1282s	um at different points throughout the
1283s	game and be flexible
1287s	it's not that answer the question if if
1288s	your ass is something a little bit
1289s	different let me know and I'll try to
1291s	answer it again uh is the layout
1294s	is the statue on the left a Tara oh oh
1298s	the the HUD here
1301s	um for HP yep and I set you in the right
1303s	Mana orbis thanks
1305s	um
1308s	this is a Tara
1315s	don't forget to put
1317s	um at last Epoch game
1320s	uh
1322s	in your question if you'd like me to
1323s	answer I just saw someone say like oh
1325s	you skipped my question and I'm sorry
1327s	um if it did not have at least that
1330s	lastly put game I probably missed it
1333s	because there's people having
1334s	conversations with each other and I
1335s	don't want to read every single comment
1337s	um
1338s	to just pick up the ones that are
1339s	directed me so let me scroll up and I'll
1341s	find it for you one sec
1349s	uh okay I found it um who's playing the
1351s	game uh my name is Mike I'm a senior
1353s	developer for 11th Hour games and I
1355s	worked on last epoch
1358s	um
1360s	yeah
1363s	that's me uh what happened to those
1366s	social posts uh such as last Epoch
1368s	Tinder Valentine's Day cards from your
1371s	favorite Travelers Etc uh yeah I mean we
1373s	we try and shake things up each year
1375s	there's um
1377s	I don't I don't know I think we've
1379s	sometimes we just get like sometimes
1381s	someone makes something that we didn't
1384s	expect it just shows up and then we make
1385s	a post around it because we think it's
1386s	cool
1388s	um I think that that happened a lot of
1389s	those cases that you're probably
1391s	remembering
1392s	um that was cool though
1395s	um
1398s	there could be some Festivus
1401s	things yeah see right there that guy
1403s	jumped and I shot a fireball at him and
1404s	it didn't die because he was mid-air
1405s	when he jumped
1406s	um soon he will die when he lands
1409s	oh a leather belt of Hope
1413s	never
1424s	lastly [ __ ] two unreal six
1431s	uh okay so did you see another question
1432s	your first time question I I know you
1435s	guys don't know the rule about uh but
1437s	now let's see if I'll give him the
1438s	question but um I was wondering if this
1439s	can be played with a controller it
1441s	definitely can be played with a
1442s	controller I wouldn't say it has full
1444s	controller support because there's
1446s	certain elements like uh text input for
1449s	naming characters and things like that
1450s	that do not bring up
1452s	um an on-screen keyboard to work with so
1454s	you do still need a keyboard
1456s	um for some select things I think
1458s	getting into game at the very start
1459s	might struggle with the controller at
1461s	the moment we do plan to round out
1463s	controller support for 1.0 so that it is
1466s	so we can say like yes it has controller
1468s	support there's no caveats or asterisks
1469s	there
1470s	um but right now it's it's I would give
1472s	it a solid B plus for controller support
1474s	at the moment it's not perfect it's not
1476s	finished there's work to do
1479s	um
1479s	but you know it's pretty good and it's
1480s	pretty fun and
1482s	um I know I know a lot of people that
1483s	that actually actively play with a
1485s	controller
1487s	um
1488s	I mean there's another feature that
1489s	we're we're working on for multiple
1490s	right now is is getting controllers in
1493s	um
1496s	yeah
1501s	all right
1504s	void focused warlock all right Aaron
1507s	hello sir I know you've been you've been
1510s	um
1510s	pushing that idea for a while now
1514s	um
1516s	I hate telling people that like things
1519s	are just not gonna happen
1525s	uh what subclasses that you play I'm
1527s	playing a sorcerer
1536s	yes uh I'm specialized as a sorcerer I
1539s	have no points to spell but whatsoever
1540s	here's my treat for sorcerer right now
1544s	I'm going to keep putting points in this
1546s	let's get my instant Mana back up
1548s	because I really want to get it back
1549s	over 300.
1553s	kind of hoping to get in these um
1557s	in some of these slots maybe a little
1559s	bit of mana on uh
1561s	the exalted item
1563s	I'll be sweet
1567s	let's make a legendary
1570s	uh when multiplayer goes live is
1573s	anti-cheat software going to be required
1574s	to install
1576s	um so the method I I don't want to say
1579s	yes or no to that right now just in case
1580s	something changes however
1583s	um there's nothing planned at the moment
1584s	and I don't see why we would need it
1587s	really even if you're cheating with your
1590s	client and sending false inputs to the
1593s	servers
1594s	um it won't work
1596s	like it won't do anything it'll just
1598s	kinda
1600s	you'll be like oh my health is four
1603s	million or I do a bajillion damage well
1605s	the circle's gonna no you don't you deal
1607s	seven deal with it
1610s	um
1611s	and uh yeah there's the servers it's
1614s	more the client is sending requests on
1616s	things to do and the server is actually
1618s	playing the game
1619s	um and you're just rendering a visual of
1621s	what's happening on your clients
1624s	um so there's a lot of inherent security
1626s	there that comes with it and and yes
1628s	there's lots of other ways that there's
1629s	security issues and where we are working
1631s	to deal with those for sure but um and
1633s	and the I think the the style of
1635s	anti-cheat software you're getting at is
1637s	not really what we're what we're aiming
1638s	for
1640s	um
1641s	the the most the most most important
1643s	factor of of anti-cheat for us is
1644s	maintaining the Integrity of the latter
1647s	um than anything else so like a lot of
1649s	the anti-cheat software that we see
1652s	um
1656s	in in other games like I I don't want to
1658s	call it any games uh as examples but I
1660s	think you can judge me with a question
1662s	you're asking you probably have a good
1663s	good idea of the same games I'm thinking
1665s	of too um and I don't think you need to
1667s	be worried
1670s	I realize it's like don't don't worry
1674s	about that it'll be fine it'll be fine
1676s	that's such a terrible way to answer
1677s	that question
1681s	we never want to
1683s	um one of the things we do try and be
1686s	very careful of is we never want to
1688s	impact if there's a group of people that
1690s	are
1691s	um doing some sort of behavior that
1693s	maybe we don't like in the game or uh
1696s	we're trying to to curb or or
1699s	I don't know change how it's working or
1701s	something like that we'd rather not put
1704s	in a system that has an equal chance of
1707s	negatively impacting the people who are
1709s	playing as intended so um
1712s	an example of this that's a little bit
1714s	aside but something that I'll mention uh
1717s	the the numb lock trick comes comes up
1719s	as an example pretty frequently so you
1721s	can
1722s	um
1723s	uh you can you can do is you can assign
1725s	basically you can you can force Auto
1728s	cast to happen
1729s	um and a lot of times people have
1732s	suggested hey like why don't you just
1733s	detect for numb lock and you know
1735s	disable the functionality and so like
1737s	like to lock people out or whatever
1740s	but there's a chance that someone is
1744s	using that for something else and it's
1747s	so negatively impacts someone who is
1748s	playing appropriately
1750s	um and then there's this other things
1752s	like okay we'll just just detect four uh
1755s	repeated button presses in the same
1757s	interval
1758s	um okay great now maybe someone is just
1762s	like weirdly rhythmic with how they play
1765s	and they're pressing the same that
1767s	button in the same interval every time
1768s	and it accidentally Flags someone who's
1770s	literally just playing normally
1772s	um and so there's there's this a lot of
1775s	back and forth of like oh trying to
1776s	catch the cheater or catch the person
1777s	doing something you don't want them to
1778s	do which we don't actually care about
1780s	which is why I'm using it as an example
1783s	um
1784s	and having it negatively impact people
1785s	who are just playing normally
1787s	and so we really want to avoid those
1789s	situations
1790s	um because the people who are just
1791s	playing normally are the people who were
1793s	trying to cater to the most you know
1799s	because that's the vast majority of
1801s	people playing
1802s	okay
1807s	uh released has resubbed for four months
1810s	in a row thank you very much glad to
1811s	have you here
1813s	I hope you're enjoying yourself
1817s	all right
1820s	um consider for April Fool's swapping
1822s	bosses of Poe or another game get
1824s	shayford Ali and vice versa oh if that
1826s	was as easy as just like swapping it
1828s	like just oh just slap one on the other
1830s	no problem oh my gosh I would love to do
1833s	that that'd be so cool
1835s	um I think that's that's an extremely
1838s	large undertaking
1840s	um
1841s	but hey Chris if you're down so am I
1843s	laughs
1847s	I don't think that's gonna happen
1849s	unfortunately
1852s	be very cool though
1854s	all right okay back again with another
1856s	hot off the press question when looking
1858s	to buy the game there's Steam and off
1860s	your website buying options what I'd
1862s	like to ask is if we buy from the
1864s	website can we still play with friends
1865s	who purchase on Steam this looks like a
1868s	couple this looks like a game myself and
1869s	a couple people would try yes
1872s	um it doesn't matter where you purchase
1873s	it from at all website steam you get
1875s	literally the exact same thing
1877s	completely so if you buy and I know it
1880s	sounds ridiculous people say that but it
1881s	is
1882s	um if you buy it on the website what you
1884s	can do is you can put your
1887s	um you can activate your steam account
1889s	on your last Epoch account basically
1892s	just linking the two together and it
1894s	will just activate the game last Epoch
1896s	on your steam account so if you buy it
1897s	on our website you can get the steam
1898s	copy for free
1900s	um it doesn't give you a key to input so
1902s	you can't like buy the website get a key
1904s	and give the key to a friend so that's
1905s	not possible but
1907s	um yes if you buy one copy in in the
1910s	website you do get the same one copy on
1912s	Steam as well
1913s	um and then on top of that if you buy it
1915s	on Steam you can also go get the uh when
1918s	you when you first open it on Steam it
1920s	creates a last Epoch account and then
1921s	when you could log into the website with
1923s	that last apoc account and you can
1925s	download the sandal online if you wanted
1926s	to
1927s	I will say though that I would extremely
1930s	strongly recommend no matter where you
1931s	buy it from steam or our website use the
1933s	steam client it's so much better our
1936s	Standalone client is terrible
1938s	um I can see that because I made it
1940s	mostly
1941s	um and it's it's not that it's terrible
1944s	it's just outdated and we haven't been
1946s	upkeeping it much really
1948s	um the steam
1951s	download servers are just
1954s	unbelievably fast
1956s	um and then you also get things like
1957s	Cloud save and some some game file
1960s	verification things and it's all in one
1962s	place and you know
1964s	I know there's a lot of people that
1964s	really hate steam I I'm sorry I really
1968s	still would recommend if you can if you
1970s	can get over it please use the steam
1972s	client it's so much better
1975s	um The Experience you'll have is just
1976s	better that's that's all it comes down
1978s	to
1979s	we want you to know the best experience
1980s	and
1982s	while we do have a standalone client
1985s	it's okay it's fine
1990s	but yes you can still play with each
1991s	other
1992s	um the actual files that download
1995s	um from the Standalone client are the
1996s	same files that steam downloads it's to
1998s	be also the same package to both uh and
2000s	if you if you open if you have Steam on
2004s	your computer
2007s	um
2008s	and running and you open the Standalone
2010s	version steam will actually see that
2012s	you've opened it and will like grab it
2014s	and uh you'll see like the steam like
2017s	you're playing last debug It'll like
2019s	show up in Steam as you playing it
2021s	um and then there's a couple other weird
2023s	things that can happen too like you can
2025s	actually take the steam client
2027s	and just like copy the package out and
2030s	if you have a
2033s	um a password setup you can actually run
2035s	that as the Standalone client as well
2037s	like it's it's there's it's the same
2039s	package they're super connected
2041s	um
2043s	but yeah you steam it's better
2046s	and you get both if you buy it at either
2048s	place it doesn't matter
2058s	all right
2060s	moving on
2062s	I hope that answers your question every
2064s	time I get to the end of a question I'm
2065s	always like
2067s	I wonder if that was enough every single
2069s	time no matter how long I've been
2070s	talking for
2073s	anyways uh will you shave your beard
2076s	when the game launches officially no I
2078s	look weird without a beard
2080s	um I'll I'll I'll probably take some
2082s	some trim into it it's it's getting a
2084s	little out of hand right now
2087s	like
2090s	it's down to like my shirt
2092s	yeah it it needs a bit of a trim
2095s	um but no I I don't think I'll shame it
2100s	I'm tempted to like set some sort of
2102s	ridiculous bar of like oh if if there's
2106s	this happens on launch you know I'll
2109s	shave it or something like that but I
2110s	don't I don't want to do that
2115s	that period where it's starting to grow
2116s	back it's just so itchy and uh
2119s	I've got it just so perfect right now
2121s	where it's like soft and it just feels
2123s	nice
2128s	I'd really rather not [ __ ] my beard last
2130s	time I fully shaved my beard was
2133s	um
2134s	for uh
2137s	uh I don't know the term frosh week at
2140s	uh University
2144s	and it was shaped in a very weird
2145s	pattern all week
2151s	all right it is it is getting extremely
2154s	warm in here I'm gonna need to open a
2156s	window he'll do after this fight
2159s	um
2159s	so no hard no on the void Walker avoid
2163s	Warlock
2165s	um
2166s	I mean we hate to sit put hard nose on
2168s	things like that especially stuff that's
2169s	not even implemented yet
2172s	but
2176s	we did specifically put in our plans
2178s	that it was not gonna be that
2184s	uh are there any plans for group
2187s	dungeons with matchmaking or a basic
2190s	party maker like Lost Ark also any ideas
2192s	for more end game content yeah we do
2195s	have we of ideas for morning game
2196s	content there's it's it's ideas are
2198s	cheap implementation is what takes the
2200s	time but yeah there's definitely ideas
2202s	there as far as
2204s	um like so we've we've used the term
2206s	matchmaking before in our in our devlog
2210s	posts and I know a lot of people have
2211s	been confused about the use of that term
2213s	that we use when we say the term
2214s	matchmaking what we're actually
2216s	referring to is uh in those posts in the
2219s	past what we've been referring to is
2220s	when you go to a new Zone having the
2223s	server
2224s	um
2226s	I mean the servers be able to
2228s	communicate with each other and figure
2229s	out the right server to send you to
2231s	whether or not you're in a party and
2233s	someone else in that party's already in
2235s	that zone finding the server that has
2237s	that party and sending you to that one
2239s	instead of just making a new one for you
2240s	or learning or find figuring out there
2241s	isn't one and then making a new one
2244s	um that's what you mean by matchmaking
2245s	that when we've talked about matchmaking
2246s	in the past
2247s	it's matchmaking like you're talking
2249s	about like a like a dungeon finder or a
2251s	raid finder that you've seen something
2252s	like wow where you like put up like oh
2254s	I'm uh
2256s	um
2257s	firewall Frozen orb DPS looking for uh
2260s	group to go do temporal sanctum dungeon
2262s	or something like that we don't really
2264s	have plans for a system like that at the
2266s	moment
2267s	um
2267s	in initial version especially in the CTS
2270s	is just there's there's chat uh if you
2272s	want to post that you're looking for a
2273s	group go ahead
2275s	um that's sort of where we're at at the
2276s	moment
2277s	um
2278s	could change but that's what we've got
2281s	so far
2286s	yeah basic party maker yeah it's it's
2287s	all just
2289s	we've we've we've we've just spruced
2292s	this oh God it's gross ah close it looks
2293s	terrible
2295s	um but there's there's like a new a new
2299s	party frames new party window everything
2301s	like that and um
2303s	getting something being build a little
2305s	bit better functionality in there but
2306s	not much new really
2312s	design the way it should be thanks to
2314s	the answer you're welcome that's awesome
2315s	projects I do not look at the names
2317s	enough
2319s	I I recognize names but I don't remember
2321s	what your question was I'm gonna go back
2323s	and look
2325s	oh the Auntie G one yes cool wonderful
2327s	wonderful thanks let me know
2330s	uh thanks for clarifying purchasing
2333s	stuff you're welcome
2335s	I'm skipping past stuff because I don't
2336s	see any tags if you have a question for
2338s	me don't forget to put out last game in
2340s	the question
2341s	will League season content require
2344s	online play
2346s	um
2348s	Maybe
2350s	depends what it is
2352s	um
2353s	I can see there being things that would
2354s	just not make sense at all to do without
2357s	online play
2358s	um we do really want to bring as much
2360s	the content to as many people as we can
2362s	we know some people can't play online
2364s	um
2365s	so I it'll depend heavily on what it is
2368s	really
2376s	but we we really here's I guess a
2378s	different way to look at it we don't
2379s	want to
2381s	um we don't want to maintain two
2383s	versions of the game
2386s	um we want to maintain the game that can
2388s	be played online or offline
2390s	okay so
2392s	um for the most part things would be
2393s	playable in both
2397s	unless something goes wrong
2404s	all right if the multiplayer launch goes
2406s	without any issues oh boy would that be
2409s	good
2411s	oh I'm just gonna stop there and revel
2414s	in that thought for a second
2417s	okay uh if the if the multiple launch
2419s	goes without any issues will you shave
2422s	your beard also do you think you can
2424s	shave your beard this month or next
2426s	nice sneaky well
2430s	um
2431s	that's that's stinky
2433s	uh I I don't think I will be shaving my
2436s	beard for multiplayer launch
2440s	I'm sorry
2443s	uh will 0.9 release with some sort of
2446s	trade
2447s	um that's the plan right now so there's
2449s	the way I like to word it just because
2450s	the term trade has such a specific
2453s	meaning for so many people
2455s	um
2456s	yeah there's already a system in point
2459s	in in the CT program there's already a
2461s	system by which items can be
2462s	transitioned between two players
2465s	um
2466s	and we're still getting feedback on that
2469s	we're still looking at that feedback
2470s	deciding if we want to do anything with
2472s	it
2472s	um or any of that stuff so there's
2474s	there's lots of things that could change
2476s	still
2477s	um if that goes ahead with how it is uh
2479s	then we'll be
2481s	there will be some system by which items
2483s	can be transferred from one player to
2484s	another and multiplayer at point nine
2486s	launch so yes we do we do plan to have
2488s	some sort of trade
2490s	what that looks like I can't give you
2492s	any more details sorry
2495s	uh most people who bought Creator
2497s	supportive pack design their items oh
2499s	good question I'm gonna say yes
2504s	but
2506s	that basically saying I think more than
2508s	half have
2509s	um
2511s	but I'm not certain on that I haven't
2513s	looked at that uh that that spreadsheet
2515s	in a while
2523s	we do get some great I've I've really
2525s	enjoyed making the supporter uniques
2528s	and we've got some amazing ideas from
2531s	people who've done it
2532s	um and it's it's really cool to see the
2534s	different approaches people have to that
2536s	process
2537s	um and you you get like I can't I can't
2540s	split into like categories or anything
2541s	like that but you do get people who are
2544s	um who I think the two main categories I
2546s	guess are people that really want
2548s	something that is and then someone can
2550s	have both of these intentions pretty
2551s	heavily but usually people have I think
2554s	one at least one of these two intentions
2555s	when making it unique they've got like a
2558s	really specific thematic idea where
2561s	they're like I want to have a uh a
2565s	really
2566s	curved yellow sword uh that does
2570s	something that doesn't matter what it
2572s	does really but I really want that super
2573s	curved yellow sword
2575s	um and it's this aesthetic thing it's
2577s	really hard on what it like the feeling
2579s	it gives and that sort of stuff and the
2581s	mechanics are sort of like
2582s	they kind of kind of the mechanics of
2584s	like well what do you guys think's good
2585s	sort of thing
2587s	um which is super cool uh and we'll
2589s	usually like give some examples of like
2591s	ideas we have that we think might fit
2593s	the theme and it's the difference
2594s	between really a top-down and a
2595s	bottom-up design
2597s	um and and then the on the other hand
2598s	you get people who come in and they're
2600s	like I really want this effect I don't
2603s	care what slot it's on I don't care what
2605s	it like I don't care anything about it
2607s	but I just want this one specific effect
2609s	and we go from there
2612s	um and you have people that that do
2614s	really have specific ideas for both
2615s	those things and also very cool makes it
2617s	makes those are really easy sometimes
2619s	you get it and it's like a fully formed
2620s	item idea ready to go and you're like
2622s	yeah we can do that sure just do it
2623s	that's happened a couple times
2626s	um but yeah it's it's usually you get
2628s	one of those two extremes as uh as or
2631s	both
2634s	yeah
2635s	it's cool process if we did one live
2637s	with uh ziz and one live with Aaron that
2641s	uh there are videos on YouTube for if
2643s	you if you care to see that process
2645s	both of them are much more in the um
2650s	uh I'd say I'd say more in the mechanics
2652s	side of things I know this is really on
2654s	the squirrels quite a bit but yeah I
2656s	think it's I think they both came from a
2658s	more mechanics heavy side initially at
2660s	least
2665s	all righty then
2669s	um
2671s	will we be able to play new content from
2674s	new Psycho without making a new
2675s	character
2677s	um
2680s	I don't know the details of that
2683s	specifically
2685s	um
2686s	I I see what you're getting at though
2688s	and this is again comes down to uh
2690s	uh part of the answer here is Define
2692s	content
2694s	um because
2695s	if there's a new unique item that's just
2698s	World drops then yeah that'll still
2700s	that'll draw probably
2702s	um maybe not I don't know
2705s	that's that's a that's a really tough
2707s	question to answer because part of it is
2708s	we don't want to maintain super like a
2711s	large number of versions of the game if
2713s	we can avoid it we want to maintain as
2714s	few versions as possible we want them
2717s	all to be the same you know not not
2718s	literally but we want there to be as
2721s	little variation there as possible so we
2722s	can't so when we go to release a patch
2724s	we're we're not like releasing eight
2726s	versions of it whatever you know there's
2729s	less testing things can be done quicker
2731s	that might be something that changes a
2732s	little bit more as we go forward but at
2733s	least initially the goal is to have as
2735s	few versions as possible
2737s	um
2738s	so we can do things faster until we get
2741s	better at it that's one of the big
2742s	advantages that uh teams like GGG have
2746s	is that they're extremely experienced in
2748s	releasing and maintaining builds across
2752s	huge periods of time with insane
2755s	consistency like
2758s	it's nuts that they can they can
2760s	maintain that
2762s	um
2763s	and still be pumping out new stuff all
2764s	the time
2767s	just the the workflow I think is quite
2770s	impressive anyways
2772s	um
2774s	yeah so that's a little up in the air
2776s	still sorry
2782s	just find a new question here
2784s	um
2786s	with multiplayer are there any plans for
2789s	shared zones like City hubs or even
2791s	field zones open for anyone uh yes no so
2795s	um
2795s	city city zones yeah like if you pop in
2798s	and you you go to end of time and you're
2800s	not in a party or even if you are in a
2802s	party
2803s	um you'll go to the plans for you to go
2805s	to like a version of at a time with I
2807s	don't know up to 20 other people in it
2810s	um and you see people hanging out in the
2811s	in the hub zones or or um
2814s	like like council chambers
2816s	um there's basically one
2819s	you can find them easily
2823s	these these ones
2826s	anything with that icon I think is uh
2829s	town
2834s	all right
2836s	uh but but yeah our field zones open
2838s	everyone no we're not planning on having
2841s	um
2842s	I I want to call it like the like a more
2845s	of an MMO
2847s	uh world like like combat zones uh yeah
2850s	okay that's that's there's the trick as
2852s	soon as you're in a combat zone it's
2855s	um just you and your party
2858s	because that's part of the trick as well
2859s	is that abilities will not be castable
2861s	in town
2863s	um so if you if you've got
2867s	um and part of that is a
2870s	um
2871s	a leg leg uh consideration a network
2873s	traffic consideration uh performance
2875s	launcher and stuff but yes
2877s	um
2879s	we do plan on having Town hubs
2892s	all right
2895s	that's a good one
2900s	um what is the most common reason to
2903s	reject a unique design uh I assume you
2906s	mean like a Creator like a Creator
2908s	Packer unique design
2910s	um all the the only ones that we've
2911s	there's
2914s	the only time we flat out rejected an
2916s	idea that someone's come to us with is
2918s	when it was something uh that didn't fit
2920s	the world thematically
2922s	um so someone came in and they're like I
2924s	want to make a uh a supporter unique and
2928s	it it has to be
2931s	um a a portable television set that you
2934s	hold and you and you carry around it's
2937s	got an antenna and you can and it plays
2938s	it plays hockey games every once in a
2940s	while it's like an idle animation no
2942s	we're not gonna do that because
2943s	televisions don't exist hockey doesn't
2945s	exist you know like we're not doing that
2949s	um
2952s	usually when there's a mechanical
2954s	suggestion that we're like we can't do
2956s	that we can we can usually find an angle
2959s	that we can evoke similar feelings or
2962s	similar functionality that's just just
2964s	Twisted just enough that um
2967s	it's it still hits the same notes that
2970s	the person's looking for but doesn't
2972s	um cause huge problems and breaks the
2974s	game completely
2983s	when will the Arden Creator pack become
2985s	available again
2986s	I don't know
2988s	um it's one of those things that
2991s	we the amount of time we spend making a
2995s	unique item with it and uh and also
2999s	stuff is
3000s	quite a bit more it's a lot of people a
3003s	lot of time quite a bit more than a
3005s	normal unique is
3006s	um
3007s	and we're kind of under the gun to get
3010s	to get to get to launch get to multiple
3012s	launch get to full launch
3015s	and uh I I think we'd likely see
3020s	um a little bit of a Hiatus still here
3024s	um I don't know if we're planning on
3027s	bringing it back in the exact same form
3029s	it might be slightly different
3031s	um might do the exact same thing I don't
3032s	know uh but that's that's a discussion
3035s	and decision we're gonna have to make a
3036s	little bit later we're still not ready
3037s	for you I know that and thank you very
3039s	much a little vote little voets
3044s	glad to have you here thanks what's up
3047s	children will play because of you haha
3053s	wonderful
3056s	all right let's find another question
3058s	so many legionaries have descriptions of
3061s	locations and name a time period of
3064s	legendaries Legions
3066s	uh is there eventual plans to include
3068s	these characters locations or time
3070s	periods to see to be seen in game it
3072s	comes full circle so to speak yeah
3075s	we do definitely add things into the
3077s	lore uh for items as
3080s	um
3081s	sneak peeks uh hints teasers things like
3084s	that uh a lot of the lore gets um so we
3088s	had
3089s	um Kyle on as a guest who's the
3091s	loremaster
3093s	um a lot of the
3095s	um lortex for unique items gets created
3097s	by Him and quite often that's because
3099s	he's like okay I've got a plan for this
3101s	character later on and I'm gonna put
3102s	this text here and it'll tie in Don't
3104s	worry
3104s	um so that happens
3106s	um
3107s	and yeah there's
3109s	sometimes that we change lower text to
3112s	because we change our ideas and things
3113s	like that so there are a few times that
3114s	lortex have gotten actually changed
3115s	because of that
3117s	um and problems that they would have
3117s	caused but yes
3120s	um there are things like that some some
3121s	of them I'm sure will not be visited
3123s	some of them might be visited in
3124s	temporary time reps some of them might
3126s	be visited in like like quick events
3129s	that happen or something like that um
3130s	maybe really far in the future like in
3132s	in further
3134s	um up to its post 1.0 like there's
3135s	there's lots of room to grow which I
3138s	think is great
3140s	with the storyline oh and everything
3142s	really all right next question currently
3144s	taking a masters in computer science
3146s	good for you
3148s	I debated doing that and decided not to
3152s	um
3153s	but I hope you're enjoying it uh and if
3156s	you want your question and I've had a
3157s	couple game development and design
3159s	courses yeah me too that's how I got
3161s	into this and I would like to ask you uh
3164s	ask do you try to appease to a certain
3167s	type of players specifically or do you
3171s	try to appease a certain type but at the
3173s	same time try to give some elements and
3175s	mechanics that would appease other types
3178s	of players for example uh completionist
3180s	explorers uh competitive players Etc yes
3183s	um
3184s	there are times where we look at um a
3188s	mechanic and we'll say like like certain
3190s	players certain types of players will
3192s	really like this probably
3194s	um
3195s	not always but yes it does come up
3197s	sometimes when we're looking at
3199s	um specifically I think end game systems
3200s	more than anything
3202s	um
3205s	I mean there's okay here's here's a
3206s	completionist example uh on each of
3209s	these you can discover blessings
3213s	um so going through this to discover all
3215s	of them there's a there's a completion
3216s	of straw right there it doesn't really
3217s	do much but just like
3219s	um and you can discover them all in
3221s	empowered to get the empowered Ring
3223s	Around The Edge there's a completionist
3224s	thing to for a mechanic there like and
3226s	and part of that is also uh trying to
3229s	teach you about what things can show up
3231s	in in each one of those because there's
3233s	patterns there as well
3236s	um
3237s	so like you can learn the names you see
3239s	like oh Wrath of Raya okay that's
3241s	probably something fire related right
3244s	um
3252s	yeah like hunger of the void that
3254s	bleaching spell damage itself that's
3256s	yeah like so the names we try and we try
3258s	and make them I was hoping there's like
3260s	a
3263s	yeah these These are equivalent ones for
3266s	each other actually that's hoping one of
3267s	them was discovered already anyways but
3268s	yeah so like there's we try and use it
3270s	as a way of teaching what could be there
3272s	in game
3273s	um to help help you learn what style of
3275s	things are and then you come in here and
3277s	you see you start to see that okay well
3278s	these are all
3280s	non-combat things England look like okay
3282s	this is not a combat one
3285s	right
3289s	see ya
3292s	we use a few different things
3301s	are your characters insane I'm on level
3303s	five at the moment just started playing
3304s	game last night
3306s	this character is a little 93.
3309s	um
3310s	so a little further along
3314s	but if you're playing a sorcerer Mage
3316s	it's cool to to see what can happen
3319s	um I do have a few unique items as well
3321s	that are doing some stuff
3325s	so this is adding two projectiles to
3327s	Fireball and then uh this is also adding
3330s	two projectiles to Fireball so we get
3332s	five total
3342s	and then volcanicore we've got converted
3344s	to Frozen orb twice actually let's
3345s	converted here and then it's also
3347s	converted
3349s	here oh it's not converted there
3358s	terrible
3360s	just the worst
3371s	run
3374s	excuse me there
3378s	all right do you have any cold or Arrow
3381s	animations on death
3383s	as a combat feel for the spoiler this
3386s	time no I don't oh I do have a little
3389s	combat clip here I'll show you a combat
3391s	clip let's get into it why not right
3417s	let's do stuff and there are lots lots
3419s	of new stuff happening there so there's
3420s	new effects
3422s	um all over the place for many different
3424s	abilities there
3426s	um there's new death animations to hit
3427s	effects
3428s	uh
3430s	there's new ability animations
3434s	like a cast use animation sorry uh
3436s	there's new when hit effects there's new
3438s	stun animations
3439s	uh what else is there in there there's
3441s	all sorts of new stuff
3446s	done from stagger stagger animations
3452s	here we go
3455s	speaking of which I've got us the
3456s	promised on Logo over my head here
3458s	what's that about
3465s	50.
3475s	all right will the patch be this year
3477s	out I don't have any details on uh patch
3480s	timelines any specifics for you
3481s	unfortunately it'll be out as soon as we
3484s	can
3487s	uh related to the unique question can
3490s	you share some lore about the squirrels
3492s	of the Terra I I'm so unbelievably the
3495s	wrong person to ask about any lore
3497s	question ever I'm just it's such a
3499s	weak's point for me
3501s	um and I do I do want to have we got
3502s	great reception from having Kyle on and
3504s	I do want to have him on again and he
3505s	said he'd be receptive to that just give
3507s	me a little bit of time but yeah I'd
3508s	love to do another lore stream in
3510s	general
3511s	um but I think that the uh the important
3514s	thing to note is that really it's
3517s	this is a joke for the record uh it's
3520s	it's not that you're not summoning
3521s	squirrels you're just summoning a wolf
3523s	that happens to be two squirrels like
3525s	you know when you see like
3527s	um like animals get on top of each other
3529s	shoulders and wear a trench coat and
3530s	sneak into the movies with sunglasses on
3531s	yeah it's like that it's it's just each
3533s	wolf is two squirrels
3537s	um is what that is and they've lost
3539s	their their wolf costume
3547s	it's not it's not real it's not real
3551s	getting some fun is having these flavor
3555s	texts
3556s	foreshadowing for secret B timeline I I
3559s	don't think a timeline necessarily maybe
3561s	just like uh uh a a a a frequent Pastime
3566s	in the lens of a Terra
3572s	that animation looks so good it's it's
3575s	the permanent stud on top of your head
3576s	happens when you change zones while
3578s	stunned yes that has been fixed I do
3580s	know this
3583s	foreign
3586s	lots of bugs
3601s	so now we just listen to Mike's rambling
3603s	something caught up yeah
3606s	um oh our sub notification or not sub
3609s	notification or nightbot text is wrong
3611s	Oceania was or was um
3614s	last month's this month it's child's
3616s	play as you can see about my head this
3617s	is our charity this month
3620s	just a note while I saw it
3621s	yeah I started playing wingspan
3625s	I think I mentioned this last week oh
3626s	it's so great love wingspan big fan
3629s	Raven op my goodness oh
3636s	um all right
3638s	yeah I've taken to tryington I've
3641s	decided that the green habitat if you
3643s	play wingspan is just the worst and you
3645s	should just never go there if you can
3646s	avoid it so like my goal every time we
3648s	play is just to never ever go to the
3650s	woods
3652s	um I'll play I'll play Birds there but I
3653s	just won't ever use them ever
3656s	works great
3659s	anyways
3660s	um that animation looks so good got it
3662s	yeah oh we already answered that I said
3666s	that
3667s	how many uniques are coming in point
3668s	nine more or less than 30. uh it's a
3671s	really hard question to answer because
3672s	the vast majority of uniques that you'll
3673s	see in point nine that are new haven't
3675s	been created yet
3677s	um right now there are less than 30 new
3679s	uniques that have been created however
3681s	um
3683s	we'll still make more so
3685s	Maybe
3690s	that's a it's a respectable over
3691s	underline though I I like the I feel
3694s	like some good thought went into that
3695s	over underline and um
3698s	it was a smart choice
3704s	all right have you considered making a
3706s	first Epoch spin-off game when
3708s	multiplayer releases for it uh I mean no
3711s	uh it's definitely a joke we make
3714s	sometimes
3715s	um I think let's let's get the first
3716s	game out first before we make a sequel
3718s	or spin-off
3725s	at least at least in the same genre you
3728s	know like
3733s	it feels like we're out sometimes a
3735s	little bit already like
3737s	so many so many like
3740s	aspects of like releasing a game that
3743s	we've already done
3745s	um so sometimes feels like we're kind of
3747s	out but yeah no we're not yet
3751s	that would be a dating Sim where you're
3753s	trying to court a Tara or a priest or
3756s	whatever
3758s	ah
3762s	it's good
3764s	all right let's go let's find a boss
3771s	defects that cause enemies to explode
3773s	like unless my true deal percent enemy
3776s	HP damage or a flat number flat number
3782s	um it's affected by
3785s	um
3786s	it might be exception to that actually
3788s	but yeah it's it's
3790s	like a specific ability that gets used
3793s	ah when they die
3800s	having it scale off of the enemy's
3802s	Health that died would be cool
3806s	um problem is there's just so like
3813s	such high variance there that I think
3815s	you could you could end up with
3816s	abilities that that are like dealing no
3819s	damage sometimes
3821s	um
3823s	I think a lot of times as well you'd end
3825s	up in situations where like the big one
3827s	where you like where you kill like the
3829s	big guy uh and it's gonna be like a ton
3832s	of damage that's the last thing to die
3834s	and so the like all the damage that
3836s	comes from it is just wasted but it has
3839s	to be balanced around that big hit that
3840s	could happen
3842s	um so you you end up in situations where
3844s	most of the time it's doing basically
3846s	nothing because little things dying have
3847s	tiny explosions
3849s	um and then when the big one dies that
3853s	you've been trying to kill the whole
3854s	time everything else all the little ones
3855s	are already dead and it doesn't do
3856s	anything so like avoiding that situation
3859s	of um
3861s	less positive gameplay experience is uh
3865s	a good idea
3875s	we have new text boxes too oh they're so
3877s	nice
3878s	they're so nice
3885s	people that set that up you know who you
3886s	are good job love it love it
3895s	all right more questions
3897s	have you found the way to make frozen
3900s	enemies shatter on kill because that
3902s	would be really sick as well if you
3904s	manage to make arrows stick in enemies
3906s	would be amazing now we don't have
3907s	either of those things set up um
3911s	I think they're I think they're a little
3912s	bit out of scope at least for now
3923s	I think having maybe like certain bosses
3925s	have arrows stick out of them be cool
3927s	it's see the problem is like creating a
3930s	system like that
3932s	um yes super cool and if the game was
3937s	um
3937s	more of a like okay I guess like like um
3941s	Van Helsing Style game where there's
3943s	like a single character for the most
3944s	part
3945s	um and and and like you you know you're
3950s	always gonna have access to a bow
3953s	um and you know there's like like you've
3954s	got your bow character and it's this
3956s	thing that affects
3959s	um
3960s	um like every enemy always but you can
3963s	you can build this huge system that
3965s	takes a ton of resources to make and if
3967s	the person doesn't play a marksman
3969s	they're just never gonna see it
3972s	um
3974s	so we kind of have to weigh the
3977s	um the advantages you get from things
3978s	like that against the frequency that
3980s	it's going to be observed
3983s	um
3984s	yeah
3994s	that's not to say that that we won't
3996s	ever or that it's not important to do
3997s	things like that but just you know we've
3999s	got other things that take priority
4001s	right now
4003s	just for now
4006s	hey there hope you're doing well I am
4008s	doing well thanks for asking I'm
4010s	chilling playing old games it's going
4012s	cool wonder what games are playing and I
4014s	remembered a cool feature from Sacred 2
4015s	which indicates damage and defense types
4018s	of the enemies
4020s	any chance something like that gets
4023s	added well okay so
4026s	no because we kind of already have it
4028s	it's just a little subtle so
4031s	um we really try to match the color of
4034s	abilities that are going out into the
4036s	world with these colors here
4038s	um so if you see a
4041s	all right well that's red it's dealing
4043s	fire damage and um that's kind of the
4046s	way we try to if there's like a circle
4047s	that's going to explode the circle the
4049s	indicator circle is red so you know it's
4051s	going to explode and it's gonna be fire
4053s	um you know you see like coal go out and
4054s	it's this light pale blue you see
4056s	lightning go out and it's this like kind
4058s	of Darker uh blue and it's unfortunately
4061s	the same color we're consider doing
4062s	yellow lightning it didn't feel good
4064s	anyways
4065s	um you know like so we we try and have
4067s	these colors indicate what the damage
4069s	they're doing is and usually it's just
4071s	by the color that they are themselves is
4073s	also that same color so it's
4075s	um we tried to to
4077s	um signpost that as much as possible
4079s	broadcast as much as possible as far as
4081s	um defenses go I don't have anything
4083s	unless it says so so it'll actually show
4085s	up underneath the make something yeah
4089s	okay so underneath this up here
4091s	it'll say uh like for example there's
4093s	this scorpions that you fight a lot in
4095s	the monolith these big giant scorpions
4096s	and it says resists fire damage they
4098s	have a bunch of fire resist I think it's
4100s	like 50 or something
4106s	um but they don't they have zero to
4108s	everything else
4109s	so unless it specifically says it
4111s	doesn't have any so yeah we do tell you
4119s	aren't that's listed anywhere is that
4122s	foreign
4128s	that's not in here anywhere it probably
4130s	should be
4131s	I I'd love to I'd love to get more info
4133s	into here I think there's like a good
4135s	chunk of stuff that's like missing that
4136s	would really take that to the next level
4140s	that's a it's a bit of a bit of a
4142s	long-term project because it's got a lot
4144s	of the important early stuff
4146s	um but some of those more in-depth
4148s	questions that you're like how is this
4149s	interaction work with that thing
4151s	um
4152s	like generic complex interactions aren't
4155s	uh it's it's hard to find information
4158s	there about those
4160s	um
4164s	lives that increase
4165s	Newland 90 has sub thank you very much
4168s	glad to have you here hope you're having
4170s	fun
4172s	every time someone does that I just want
4173s	to like like give give like the cane
4176s	line like stay a while every time it's
4178s	just what I just want to say just plays
4181s	in my head every time it happens I don't
4182s	say it every time but
4185s	I say it every time
4189s	all right
4191s	are you guys are you guys not seeing
4193s	this oh my gosh are you okay oh they're
4196s	dying they're dying it's terrific oh oh
4199s	they're fine uh
4201s	uh uh yeah yeah that's that's an
4204s	appropriate reaction but do you want to
4205s	do something about it come on how about
4207s	you anything
4209s	your eyes are failing you I mean
4212s	clearly or else you'd be moving out of
4214s	this horrendous
4216s	lightning blast
4219s	sorry a little fun there
4222s	um
4225s	where was I
4228s	uh other plants that more areas for the
4230s	ancient oh yeah
4232s	oh yeah
4234s	can you point to where what is
4237s	responsible for the damage variants we
4239s	see there are no damage ranges anywhere
4241s	that I can see but sometimes I hit the
4242s	40K and sometimes thinking that's a
4243s	pretty huge range that's probably that
4245s	sounds like a buff that's falling off or
4247s	getting uh triggered like that doesn't
4249s	sound like just the the damage variants
4250s	uh there is a natural damage variance of
4254s	oh I want to say five percent
4257s	oh is someone here knows the answer to
4260s	what that actually is that's not me
4263s	um but there is there is a little bit of
4266s	um just built-in damage drains every
4267s	time damage is dealt is just like a
4268s	little bump up and down one way or the
4270s	other uh
4272s	to make it so you're not just living
4274s	like my Fireball does 47 damage and
4276s	every single time I shoot a fireball
4278s	it's always 47.
4280s	um
4281s	yeah and sometimes you see like spiky
4283s	numbers that are like a tiny bit like oh
4284s	I just broke 15K for the first time just
4286s	because you rolled high on that like
4287s	little damage variance or something like
4289s	that
4290s	so yeah
4292s	uh probably
4294s	triggering uh abilities that you might
4297s	not realize are triggering and a
4299s	combination of that and just the natural
4301s	variance that is built into it
4306s	also if you're looking at boss damage
4308s	bosses have
4310s	um wildly variable Dr they have adaptive
4313s	Dr that uh that changes based on how
4316s	fast you're killing them
4318s	so that'll change things pretty heavily
4320s	too
4321s	that might that might be actually what's
4323s	causing a swing that big
4325s	all right have you thought about adding
4327s	and I feel like adding probably you
4329s	thought about adding an arena mode uh
4331s	that's like boss rushing oh yeah we
4333s	definitely thought about adding that
4335s	um
4337s	the uh the bosses that you see at the
4340s	end of The Limited Arena right now are a
4344s	result of that conversation
4347s	that doesn't mean that that's stopping
4349s	and Lasting forever in that category but
4350s	that's where we got to for that version
4352s	of it
4356s	sorry one more question you do not need
4358s	to apologize for asking questions my
4360s	friend
4363s	please ask away
4367s	um do you plan to do anything about
4369s	sound effects of bow attacks to be less
4373s	switchy and more impactful with bass uh
4376s	let's say something like these two I
4378s	think there's um there's a lot of
4381s	um there's a lot of changes coming to
4383s	every aspect of the game and sound
4384s	effects is no different there's lots of
4386s	new sound effects that are gonna be
4387s	added for different
4389s	um different
4390s	specific
4393s	um
4394s	combinations of things like
4397s	a fireball hitting a primarily Stone
4400s	enemy should sound slightly different
4403s	than a fireball hitting a primarily
4404s	water enemy I think
4407s	um
4408s	and so like there's there's a lot of
4410s	things that need to be added in and then
4412s	also there's a lot of
4415s	um just a lot of abilities that this
4417s	there's so many sound effects for just
4419s	like tiny specific little things and
4422s	um I think sound effects get
4425s	uh a very small amount of really
4428s	specific feedback compared to a lot of
4431s	other things
4434s	um so some of these things slip through
4435s	the cracks and
4437s	um
4438s	we're we're done it's something that
4440s	we're constantly working on constantly
4441s	improving and I I can't say specifics of
4444s	which things are getting sound effects
4446s	because I know I've seen hundreds of new
4448s	sound effects go into the game
4450s	um since the last patch so
4452s	Maybe
4460s	things
4461s	fools fools I love that line
4465s	uh the last Epoch is pretty cool but
4469s	will it will you visit the first Epoch
4471s	Maybe
4473s	um I I don't know maybe someday all
4477s	right hey man I know it's too early for
4480s	discussion but are you planning for an
4482s	expansion for the game at least
4483s	story-wise yeah so there's um not silly
4485s	for this question at all we've
4486s	definitely considered this for a long
4487s	time expansion might be the wrong term
4490s	for it
4491s	um
4493s	oh it was a good example there was this
4495s	fire
4497s	I just wanted to pause for the next time
4498s	that happened anyways
4500s	um we're not really looking at it from
4501s	yes it was this fire damage right there
4504s	so there's one that is fire resistant
4507s	um anyways as far as releasing
4509s	expansions we we don't want to have a
4512s	paid box expansion such that it splits
4514s	the community
4516s	so we don't want a situation where it's
4517s	like oh yeah come play Let's see park
4520s	with me oh do you have the the latest
4522s	expansion oh you can't play with me then
4524s	sorry
4525s	um and more of a
4528s	constantly updating the game as we go
4531s	um so as we release new leagues and
4532s	Seasons Cycles as we're calling them
4535s	um we'll be adding in tons of new
4537s	content that that I would say will rival
4539s	the size of many games expansions
4543s	um so there's there's lots of
4545s	um lots of new content that's coming and
4547s	lots of like new story things that'll
4549s	happen we've got uh there's at least
4550s	three more chapters that I know are very
4552s	well storyboarded out
4554s	um and there's lots of little side
4556s	stories that that they've got planned
4558s	and like so there's lots of lots of
4559s	stuff that's happening and coming and
4561s	planned for long term like and this is
4563s	all post 1.0 stuff but like yes there's
4565s	lots of new stuff coming
4567s	um and we've got plans for years
4568s	hopefully that's that's the goal thank
4571s	you Kevin won this is 100 bits cheer 100
4574s	thank you very much that's cool I
4577s	sometimes forget about bits much
4579s	appreciated
4582s	and yeah all of everything that goes
4584s	goes to charity so it's not just the um
4586s	Subs it's also bits and
4589s	um you can play sound effects with bits
4592s	too there's like a few side effects of
4594s	me being stupid on stream
4596s	uh yeah
4599s	it's all charity the whole thing across
4601s	the board yes
4602s	um all right keep back to questions
4605s	um
4606s	yes but those bars uh with resist could
4609s	be dynamic to show resist of the enemy
4612s	pretty native uh something like uh this
4616s	and the length of the bar shows the
4617s	resistance the current mods applied for
4619s	example 50 fire 25 necro 25 void I don't
4623s	think anything in the game has more than
4625s	one resistance
4629s	there might be something with two
4634s	maybe it's it's pretty it's it's it's a
4637s	player mechanic for the most part it is
4641s	um
4642s	extremely minor
4645s	in the uh in in how important it is
4655s	so you'd end up with just like one bar
4658s	every once in a while and you'd be like
4660s	what is this I I if we used it a lot
4664s	more if we used it as like a common
4666s	mechanic
4668s	um I think it would be something that
4669s	would be I don't know I
4671s	even recently advocated for such but I
4673s	think it's it's
4674s	um with it being such a rare mechanic
4678s	um I don't think it is a
4681s	unnecessary thing to add in
4685s	personally
4689s	all right
4694s	next question to make sure to miss
4696s	anything we're good
4700s	not sure if this is allowed to ask no
4702s	but out of curiosity how big is the dev
4703s	team behind last epocket procs um yeah
4706s	so we
4707s	I don't know
4710s	it's I I don't know the entire team it's
4712s	big enough that I can't name everyone
4714s	off top my head at this point which is
4716s	pretty big in my world like that's
4718s	surprising and it's especially so
4720s	because I I still remember when it was
4722s	just like a few guys and like where we
4724s	got basically the whole team in one room
4727s	um at like someone's house in their
4728s	living room until we like shot the
4731s	kickstarter video the vast majority of
4733s	the team was there
4738s	well at least the I should say the vast
4740s	majority of the um
4742s	North American team was there
4745s	which at that point was most of the team
4747s	there was um
4749s	yeah
4751s	there's a few people that weren't
4754s	a few very notable people that weren't
4755s	yeah actually anyways um point is how
4758s	big is the team now uh and like so do we
4761s	are we counting that's the other thing
4762s	are we counting
4764s	um
4765s	people who are I want to say indirectly
4767s	working on the game it's kind of a weird
4769s	term to use but like
4770s	um I definitely do what I've given this
4773s	number in the past I definitely do count
4775s	these people so just put those numbers
4776s	in perspective a little bit but like
4778s	um
4779s	uh
4780s	uh so like do do you count
4784s	um
4787s	like uh marketing team
4788s	or um which I think is just one person
4791s	right now
4792s	um or do you count uh and like I do
4796s	definitely and so it's it's just put
4799s	that answer a little bit of perspective
4800s	but yes everyone all together I'm gonna
4801s	guess
4803s	uh
4805s	I feel like discussion was asked
4806s	recently in an interview with with Judd
4809s	that has a properly probably a real
4811s	number but I think it's in the range of
4812s	high 60s
4815s	I think
4820s	see someone there
4822s	there's quite a few people a lot of
4823s	artists that are just like
4825s	blow my mind
4827s	every time
4829s	I I just love having the like the art uh
4832s	channels open and just seeing what gets
4833s	posted in there so it's so cool
4851s	can we get a question while this is
4853s	happening
4854s	I don't want to die
4859s	this is a great rework when does
4861s	anybody's got a few problems
4863s	um I know that we've
4867s	we've definitely been looking at some
4869s	key things to help fix uh some some
4871s	issues with disintegrate but uh full
4874s	rework
4875s	um
4876s	I don't think there's any immediate
4878s	plans for a full rework I think there's
4879s	there's like some key issues that need
4882s	help
4884s	um
4885s	I think it's got really good bones
4894s	I really like the mechanics in this
4896s	fight there's a lot going on but
4898s	um I think it's done really well it's
4900s	really fun there's a lot of different
4901s	elements at play and it's really clear
4903s	what everything is so you got these guys
4904s	here that if you don't kill them
4906s	um they get they get used as detonation
4909s	points for that damn for the fire damage
4913s	um so that forces you to to change what
4915s	your targets are a little bit
4917s	overseas General natural AOE then you've
4919s	got the lightning points that um if you
4921s	move over them they explode if you don't
4923s	pop them enough you'll end up in a
4925s	situation where there's too many
4927s	it'll just constantly be accidentally
4929s	popping them uh and then you've also
4932s	just got the just various area denial
4934s	systems in the spins that happen
4937s	um
4938s	this ability that happens as well so you
4940s	get the void damage with this I really
4942s	like this in this boss I think this is a
4943s	really well designed boss
4945s	um and it hits its story story notes as
4948s	well
4949s	um
4955s	and you get uh oh come on move what are
4957s	you doing Mike
4961s	uh and and there's some really cool
4963s	items that are thematically linked to
4965s	this boss's abilities because it's uh
4968s	it's a classic sorcerer Mage trial
4971s	element
4972s	um
4973s	fight but then there's this void damage
4975s	because it's corrupted and so you have
4977s	the uniques that are associated with it
4978s	have void corrupted versions of their
4981s	normal Elemental abilities
4983s	which I think is really cool
4993s	go
4996s	okay Shield Shard dropper belt Shard
5000s	drop right glove Shard dropper well I
5003s	think we're gonna do gloves
5007s	we'll see just because we got a higher
5009s	number but the things they share it with
5010s	as well
5012s	um yeah so here's the
5014s	um set item Gaspard set that drops off
5017s	this fight that I think does some really
5019s	cool stuff
5020s	um so I really like it
5027s	it's cool fights
5028s	those detonation Fields should get
5030s	cleaned up after it finishes though
5032s	that was a bug
5035s	all right it's given the lower of the
5038s	game have you considered naming Cycles
5040s	leads uh eras epochs or something
5043s	similar yeah we've we've gone back and
5045s	forth on how we would name various
5048s	elements quite a few times
5053s	oh let's go do
5060s	temples yeah let's go do this
5063s	we're gonna make some legendaries yeah
5070s	uh yeah we don't know how we're gonna
5071s	name them exactly just yet
5075s	uh oh I'm more of a Poe player I would
5077s	love this bleep to be in a game
5081s	cool
5084s	cool cool cool
5095s	okay the now we've got several uniques
5098s	we've got a 45 a 72 f36 we can do them
5102s	all
5103s	with
5105s	this but we can do most of them with
5108s	this and even this let's do this one
5110s	just because it's more fun
5111s	little challenge
5117s	so here we're we're gonna combine a
5119s	unique item with legendary potential and
5122s	a unique item of the same base type so
5124s	wand wand uh sorry a exalted item with
5129s	the same base type and we're going to
5131s	take two of the stats from this and put
5133s	them on this
5135s	um
5136s	and that's the reward for completing
5137s	this dungeon
5145s	I played the game on and off for a long
5147s	time now each time you improve your game
5149s	from the last patch keep the good work
5151s	already in my mind is S Plus game we're
5153s	not even 1.0 you know thank you very
5154s	much I appreciate that hopefully we can
5157s	get to S plus plus
5159s	for uh
5166s	I also I like to foreshot the mechanic
5168s	foreshadowing of the healing Fountain
5170s	that's there because it shows up in the
5171s	boss light
5172s	um
5176s	and so you see it and you're like oh I
5178s	saw that in the dungeon as I was getting
5179s	here you know what to do
5182s	I like stuff like that
5185s	I've been talking about a bunch my uh
5187s	throat's a little sore here okay drink
5188s	lots of water folks
5193s	are there any sorts of plans for
5196s	Treasure goblins for Echo Maps yeah
5200s	um nothing specific nothing set in stone
5202s	but um the idea has been broached
5205s	multiple times and the response is sort
5207s	of just like
5208s	well yeah
5210s	okay great let's let's do it eventually
5212s	I guess yeah okay we'll we'll find so
5213s	we'll get in eventually yeah
5215s	that's sort of how that conversation
5217s	goes every time
5218s	um so yeah I mean I don't know when
5220s	it'll happen but I think it's more of a
5221s	win than an F question
5224s	and it might look a little different and
5226s	everything like that but it's it's a
5227s	mechanic that shows up in a lot of
5229s	different games I know I said this every
5230s	time this question gets asked but I
5231s	think it's really cool like I was
5232s	playing Borderlands 3 recently oh it was
5236s	a couple
5237s	years ago actually but yeah nice little
5240s	buddy
5242s	even even they've got it in that it's
5243s	it's a ton of fun when they show up
5245s	there so
5248s	I think it creates
5250s	um Dynamic content a very brief like an
5253s	interlope challenge where it's
5255s	um mentally challenged where you're just
5257s	like
5258s	you get distracted from your current
5260s	goal but you have another very immediate
5263s	goal where you're like okay I've got to
5265s	complete this thing really quickly as
5267s	soon as I can
5270s	um I think it's really good I like it
5273s	really fast
5276s	all right are they plans oh is PVP
5279s	possible with multiplayer um not the
5281s	first version but it's definitely a
5283s	feature we do look at
5285s	um I love PVP we've done PVP tests
5288s	already and they're always a ton of fun
5290s	the one of the first multiplayer tests
5292s	we did you could kill each other
5294s	um it was just a big green plane like
5296s	like I think I think it was technically
5298s	textured but like it looked like just a
5300s	big green rectangle and
5303s	um it had
5306s	uh like no walls or anything and
5309s	uh everyone all everyone had was
5311s	Fireball and the Fireballs traveled
5314s	forever and it was one shot kill
5318s	um and there was no teams or anything it
5320s	was just Mayhem and it was so much fun
5327s	so yeah I think hey multiplayer is good
5329s	I don't think we will be
5331s	um
5333s	like the primary game mode will continue
5336s	to be
5338s	uh multiplayer regular PDM pde whatever
5342s	you want to call it
5344s	um killing monsters so non-pvp modes
5347s	will continue to be the primary gameplay
5349s	and balance
5351s	Focus
5352s	that's not to say we won't make
5354s	decisions based on PVP at all but
5357s	um
5360s	the if if there's if there's a conflict
5362s	and something needs to give
5365s	um PVP will
5371s	obviously it depends on the scenario how
5373s	severe everything is but yeah
5379s	people ask about density monster density
5382s	increases in them sometimes I'm like
5383s	think back to situations like this I'm
5385s	like it is plenty dense
5395s	why not some decent Rings here
5397s	all right one more questions
5401s	so Elemental penetration is useless in
5404s	most cases no definitely not Elemental
5406s	penetration is fantastic in almost every
5409s	case uh or still have an effect even if
5411s	the enemy has no resistance it does
5412s	affect
5413s	um you can take it to zero you can take
5415s	way past zero you can go super duper
5416s	negative even if you get to negative 100
5419s	000 it's totally doable
5421s	won't last long but yes
5423s	uh is it okay if you do not know how
5425s	many you know cool thanks uh sorry to
5428s	bother you about this but who can I
5429s	contact about my unanswered support
5431s	tickets that got deleted due to no
5433s	activity Ah that's uh surprising uh
5438s	shouldn't happen uh you just open
5440s	another support ticket
5443s	um
5445s	the support ticket okay yeah just um
5448s	yeah open another sport ticket that's
5449s	all I can say
5452s	unfortunately that shouldn't happen
5454s	really
5464s	uh sorry to bother you but let's keep
5466s	going next one do you have voice actors
5469s	as employers
5472s	easy to add new content or is it
5474s	contract based all I see what you're
5476s	saying
5476s	um uh some of both so there's certain a
5480s	character that we
5482s	um are almost positive we're never gonna
5484s	return to but need to have a voice for
5487s	in some situation is much more likely to
5489s	get
5490s	um a quick contract work for and
5492s	sometimes and even ones that we do know
5493s	that we're gonna have repeats but we'll
5495s	like it's someone that we know we're
5496s	gonna be able to contact again for more
5498s	contract work down the road
5499s	um we do have a few that have been
5501s	voiced by like staff uh for other their
5505s	staff for other things as well
5508s	um so let's put it both depends on the
5509s	situation
5516s	also I'm here so you know
5522s	oh you can't laugh at yourself right uh
5525s	okay boss fight was there any
5527s	consideration to dropping loot the end
5529s	of an echo uh take D3 for example
5531s	instead of throughout to make it
5533s	smoother maybe more efficient and less
5535s	Echo spamming experience I mean um
5538s	there's dramatically reduced
5542s	um
5544s	uh drops in Echoes already I'm pretty
5547s	sure
5552s	so yes
5572s	huh
5576s	that's the problem I I go quiet when I'm
5578s	doing a boss fight I'm trying to find
5579s	time to go look at another question
5583s	all right here we go uh is there any out
5585s	of the box ideas you would like to see
5586s	in the game in the future
5588s	um
5590s	yeah lots definitely
5592s	um do I have an example of what I've
5593s	stopped my head no
5595s	um but yeah like I I love out-of-the-box
5599s	ideas especially for really established
5601s	functions that are
5604s	um like something that that we've we've
5606s	come to expect in certain situations and
5610s	it's
5610s	um
5614s	oh
5618s	close
5620s	uh yeah like genre breaking out of the
5623s	box ideas love them
5626s	um we should do more of them
5628s	but it's it's
5630s	more of a like oh that's it's nice to
5633s	see when it happens than something that
5635s	you plan for it's red that will like
5638s	we'll sit there and be like okay what
5640s	out of box idea can we come up with for
5642s	this no it's it's more about
5645s	um oh okay those
5648s	iffy it's more about like let's find out
5651s	let's let's come up with an idea to fix
5652s	this or to expand this or whatever and
5656s	if it happens to be out of the box
5657s	awesome
5661s	go
5662s	bye bye
5666s	lots of rings
5668s	Dave as well
5674s	that that big crit avoidance
5678s	so it's as low that's a lowest
5680s	Consultants that can possibly be
5683s	still an example is dead though I can't
5685s	look that is like a perfectly rolled C5
5686s	stat though don't you
5690s	funny
5692s	he has some cool stuff there
5698s	okay
5701s	well
5703s	era which one should we do if anyone if
5706s	anyone's got any uh
5708s	burning desire to see any of these I
5711s	guess we were not high enough level for
5716s	the crown I don't think
5719s	yeah we're not heading for the ground so
5721s	either wand chest or I
5725s	uh
5727s	well let me know someone really wants
5728s	one of them I'm just gonna answer a
5729s	question real quick
5732s	uh any plans of making skill trees
5734s	modable by extremely rare socket items
5737s	which uh which gives from new effect to
5741s	completely changing how the seal works I
5743s	mean so uh basically just talking about
5746s	unique items that change the skill so
5747s	yes
5752s	uh I never killed monsters in Divine era
5755s	and temporal sanctum button ruined era
5757s	since animations are so much better
5759s	that's how important good effects are
5760s	it's true
5763s	um all right when it's multiple at least
5765s	one is ready
5766s	uh is the voicing done in-house are you
5768s	planning to reach out to other voice
5769s	actors it's uh both it's mostly voice
5772s	actors at this point asking because the
5774s	rogue's voice is strongly resembles that
5776s	of Jennifer Hills which I enjoy uh
5778s	playing it's not Jennifer Hale I do know
5780s	who the Rogue is and it's not Jennifer
5782s	Hill
5783s	uh I'll be cool though uh what was the
5786s	idea behind the snake people like majasa
5788s	or Jorah and why are they the rulers in
5790s	the ancient era great question for our
5793s	Lore Master I do not know the specifics
5795s	behind how that came to be I'm sorry uh
5798s	any plans to replace legon timeline with
5800s	majasa timeline or something since lagon
5802s	is always causing problems
5804s	um no uh the goal I think is to fix Leon
5807s	because you really like the fight it's
5808s	really cool fight it's really iconic at
5809s	this point
5810s	um there's reasons why
5813s	um majasa is not in the model if it
5815s	doesn't make sense
5821s	okay
5822s	um we're gonna do Center song
5825s	because no one's no one's fighting for
5827s	any of these
5828s	um so while we're doing this
5831s	before we do this we're going to I'm
5833s	just going to flip the camera we're
5834s	going to um pump these up as high as we
5836s	can in case we get one of them and I'm
5838s	gonna take shocks I don't want shock
5840s	um and I'm just gonna
5842s	seal it because I know we won't hit that
5846s	um
5847s	it's what's another nice suffix we want
5851s	to slap on there
5854s	I think slows we want right
5859s	it's not much of a slow source
5863s	but ideally we want crit
5870s	that's good enough
5872s	so here we go just hope we don't hit
5874s	really really want the crit we just want
5876s	the crit stuff
5877s	um
5879s	we'll see what happens
5895s	I bet I'll take it I will take that to
5897s	the bank very nice
5901s	there's a high T6 spell crit chance
5906s	kind of slow but still yeah that's nice
5914s	very nice
5916s	very nice hit the exalted stat
5919s	okay okay one more one more one more
5927s	uh uh hey Mike first of all I want to
5930s	thank you and the entire team for
5931s	creating you're welcome
5932s	uh you guys are amazing thank you my
5935s	question is do you see adding more
5937s	classes not specs I mean not masteries
5939s	uh to the game in the future and if you
5941s	think there should be some counters to
5943s	annoying mechanics like enemies that
5944s	percent to dodge what am I saying is
5946s	giving some players some sort of your
5948s	attacks can't miss passive unique
5950s	um
5951s	yeah there's as far as I can't miss past
5954s	unique I mean there's lots of abilities
5957s	that can't miss that are dots right ah
5961s	um
5962s	so yeah there's there are ways around
5964s	those mechanics already I know it's not
5966s	the answer you're hoping for there sorry
5969s	um
5970s	the as as far as more classes yes we do
5974s	have hopes for more classes in the
5976s	future more base classes
5978s	um and more Mastery classes but
5979s	specifically more base classes yes
5982s	um getting that actually in is a pretty
5985s	big undertaking
5988s	um I'm gonna try this one
5990s	let's see let's just let's go for it
5991s	it's a pretty big undertaking I don't
5994s	um
5995s	like there's there's a lot of stuff that
5996s	goes into making a base class that
5998s	doesn't need to happen when you're
5999s	making a Mastery so I'd say it's more
6001s	likely that we'll see new masteries
6002s	before we see a new Base Class you can
6004s	also add just a single Mastery um and if
6006s	you add any bass class you have to add
6008s	at least three masteries with it so
6009s	that's a lot
6011s	um right out of the gate it's at least
6013s	triple before you even look at things
6014s	like modeling and rigging and animation
6016s	uh and then uh skinning and like all of
6021s	these things that that go with just
6022s	another Base Class
6024s	um
6026s	so yeah there's
6029s	there's definitely room for both I'd say
6031s	you're more likely to see new masteries
6033s	before we see new base classes
6037s	oh I already pass it to you did I level
6039s	up
6040s	I miss my own level up well ding
6052s	another question what did I miss
6053s	something here in that last one
6056s	oh the Dodge yeah like uh
6058s	a unique that means you can't miss would
6061s	be like could be cool it's not missing
6063s	though it's it can't be dodged would be
6066s	the stat
6067s	um and the way Dodge works
6071s	um
6074s	it would be tricky to implement it's
6076s	possible I think be very tricky to
6078s	implement and
6081s	I don't know maybe maybe that's that's a
6083s	bit it's a big Maybe
6091s	I know that monolith mod does bother a
6094s	lot of people it's there very
6097s	intentionally we've we've looked at it
6100s	and looked at it again and re-looked at
6102s	it and every single time we always come
6103s	in with yeah it needs to be there
6111s	all right I won't tell anyone that the
6113s	Barbarian will be the first to Mastery I
6117s	got a list
6119s	it's on the list as as a maybe possible
6122s	thing that could happen there's the list
6124s	is huge of Masters we've we've
6127s	considered but um Barbarian is not at
6129s	the top of it I don't think
6131s	I I think there's I think there's cooler
6133s	stuff for Prime list
6135s	um
6136s	and I think there's cooler stuff for
6139s	other classes as well
6141s	there's a few more gaps that I think
6143s	need to be filmed first
6154s	yeah you can feel the damage difference
6157s	it's required to kill you in these
6158s	things
6159s	okay this is gonna be touch and go we'll
6161s	see if this happens I might just I might
6163s	just pop here in a minute and die but
6166s	um
6167s	it's our best
6171s	we like we must be well over 100 crit at
6174s	this point right
6178s	crit Spell career chance yeah
6185s	I could probably remove crit off of some
6186s	pieces
6197s	attack him that's the one you want right
6199s	there leave me alone I'm the fake I'm
6202s	the fake
6204s	oh what's that from
6208s	that's from something that's from a game
6210s	oh that that's a Borderlands three there
6212s	we go
6220s	You misspelled bardarian oh my God I
6224s	would love to do a Bard Bart has to be
6227s	its own bass class though there's no um
6229s	there's no class that you can stick Bart
6231s	in as a master that would work well
6233s	um so Bart Bart is a fresh class
6235s	entirely oh I gotta go around
6238s	uh
6240s	um
6241s	and like what else goes with Bard right
6244s	is is Bard the base class is part of the
6246s	Mastery class
6247s	um believe me I've been down this road
6249s	and I know my answer to these questions
6251s	but I think it's a fun thing to to look
6253s	at and to ask
6258s	amulets
6260s	love it
6263s	are there any plans for digital use for
6264s	experience after hitting level 100 well
6266s	first off I just want to preface this by
6267s	saying
6269s	um
6270s	we kind of we want to do we want to
6272s	extend the tail on the leveling process
6274s	for the super high end
6276s	um so we're talking like 95 to 100 that
6278s	type of super high extending that for
6280s	the most part because the power
6281s	difference you get from 95 to 100 is
6284s	literally five Mastery points are five
6287s	passive points and you've already
6288s	allocated over a hundred at that point
6292s	um so you're increasing your total
6294s	number of passives by less than one
6296s	percent
6298s	um and because you've already taken 100
6299s	you've already taken your first hundred
6301s	favorite
6302s	um and so you're you're you're not even
6304s	taking your top
6306s	you know like 10 passive Point worth
6309s	like you're putting just into filler
6311s	points and things like that at the end
6312s	just like little extra tiny things that
6313s	you're like well it wasn't important
6315s	enough for me to take because I was
6316s	going but I'll fill it and backfill with
6318s	it now so like
6319s	you're you're not worried you're not
6322s	getting even the top tier point so it's
6323s	the amount of power you're getting from
6325s	those last few levels is really low and
6327s	we want to emphasize it more as an
6328s	achievement rather than a character
6330s	building
6331s	point
6334s	um for those last few levels at least so
6336s	let's also want to extend the tail there
6337s	a little bit as far as experience goes
6339s	as a as a useful resource after you have
6342s	hit 100
6344s	um there's little things like
6346s	um
6346s	oh lots of health on that there's little
6348s	things like
6350s	um just respecting your your spells and
6353s	abilities faster but but um yeah we have
6356s	looked at other things you can use
6358s	experience for uh to tie into other
6360s	mechanics possibly it's hard to do
6362s	without
6364s	um
6365s	it's it's really difficult and I we
6368s	don't have any concrete plans for
6369s	specific uses for experience as a
6373s	resource Post 100 and I think there's
6375s	actually a good chance we'd launch 1.0
6377s	without any specific uses for experience
6380s	as a resource Post 100
6382s	um however
6385s	I do think that even with that being the
6387s	case there's room for progression
6389s	systems and uh progression tracks that
6392s	don't care about experience and start
6395s	later in the game
6398s	um and extend through level 100 so it's
6401s	level at level independent
6403s	and the people who come here a lot will
6404s	know exactly what I'm talking about uh
6407s	progression systems for for super late
6410s	game
6411s	that um
6414s	can can still be done so there's
6415s	something there and and it starts before
6417s	you hit 100 as well so level independent
6419s	is the important part
6420s	which I know doesn't use experience
6422s	which is the whole part of your question
6423s	but yeah sorry just completely
6426s	sidestepped it sorry
6430s	uh what are your thoughts on permanent
6432s	tanky minions versus squishy Minions
6434s	that you have to re-summon
6438s	I think there's a place for both I think
6440s	there's there's there's there's times
6442s	where you want both I think there's
6445s	um like those builds that and and nodes
6448s	on trees that are like whatever anything
6450s	dies get a bonus and like
6453s	like squishy minions are things that die
6455s	so they help with that you know like
6456s	there's we try and we try and put
6458s	mechanics that are complementary to both
6460s	Styles in there I think that
6462s	a lot of people
6465s	um
6465s	really lean towards the this minion will
6468s	never die because it's so tanky type of
6471s	uh preference I think that's a common
6474s	common General preference
6477s	um but we do try and we try to
6481s	um we're building we're looking at
6483s	something like let's look at Necromancer
6484s	for example compared to
6486s	um Prime list I think it's important to
6487s	note that we
6488s	if you're thinking about um let's say
6490s	about campaigns let's not look at totems
6492s	for a second but let's look at
6493s	specifically companions so mobile
6495s	minions I think it's the important part
6497s	here is that we try and make primalists
6499s	mobile minions something that you are
6501s	re-summiting way less often most the
6505s	time they're not re-summoned
6507s	in an entire play session you know like
6509s	it's it's uh oh I think we actually uh I
6512s	don't want to say that I don't know if
6513s	it's working
6514s	um we we so yeah the goal is is for most
6519s	um primeless means to be that tanky not
6521s	resellable and and part of that is
6523s	they're and they're toted as companions
6525s	where you are it's a creature that
6527s	you're exploring the world with and
6528s	re-summoning it is uh it breaks that
6531s	connection it breaks that Bond
6534s	a little bit strange little thing and
6536s	this project we have that down system
6537s	where you can res them and being able to
6540s	Res allies down minions is so great
6543s	my goodness it's wonderful just putting
6546s	that out there
6547s	um
6549s	little multiplayer things you know
6553s	and uh where was I going with this and
6556s	then and then so yeah let's look at
6557s	necro as the whole so on necro you have
6559s	both of these styles of minions
6561s	um you have like bone Golem for example
6563s	that's not designed to be re-summoned
6565s	frequently and you have something like
6566s	let's go far extreme other end of the
6568s	pro of the um Spectrum here is you've
6570s	got volatile zombie which is the whole
6572s	point of it is to blop and die
6577s	and part of what we're trying to do is
6579s	create a
6581s	with with Necromancer specifically
6583s	create a class where the action you're
6586s	taking frequently as a Summoner is
6588s	you're summoning things so having that
6590s	having that as an as a common action
6592s	where you are summoning things is is the
6596s	goal like that's like that's something
6597s	that we're trying to have be a common
6599s	goal and not it's not not a not a forced
6602s	thing that you're not a force to
6603s	actually see the system Necromancer
6604s	builds where you're not constantly
6605s	summoning things but where the act of
6608s	summoning things is one of the primary
6610s	functions of a Summoner
6612s	but we don't want you to have to
6614s	re-summit just where you're just
6615s	re-summiting permanent minions that I
6618s	think is what feels bad because
6619s	re-summiting volatile zombies when you
6621s	know that they're gonna blow up when you
6623s	make one I don't think feels bad at all
6624s	and that's why they're like that we try
6626s	and put a lot more of the
6628s	um the permanence on uh the ability to
6632s	make permanent minions like
6634s	um bone gone for example as something
6635s	that can stick around for a lot longer
6638s	because of the feelings that it tries to
6640s	focus so it's a lot of meaning to minion
6642s	differences that we try and put there
6643s	but we do like to have
6645s	both types
6647s	and they're very intentionally both
6648s	placed there
6651s	um
6658s	see I hope that's hope that answers that
6660s	question for the most part yeah like
6662s	um I kind of keep talking about the
6664s	that'd be a good one taco while I'm
6665s	fighting this boss haha
6668s	um
6669s	it is it's it's a tricky thing to
6672s	balance because you are frequently
6675s	um
6678s	oh I'm so flipping dead
6685s	I'm there's no way
6692s	I believe you Julia I believe you
6695s	um
6698s	means impermanence uh we also try and
6701s	provide tools for
6704s	um on the on the minions and classes
6706s	that we know are have squishier minions
6708s	like they're they're cheaper to read
6709s	some and they're faster to re-summon
6712s	um
6714s	and and and and and providing tools for
6718s	um destroying them yourself to use them
6719s	as a resource where you are um
6723s	where you are really intentionally
6725s	blowing you up your own stuff like
6726s	that's like the sacrifice on there
6729s	um
6730s	there's there's
6733s	uh
6736s	other stuff
6744s	come on
6768s	okay
6770s	every bass class has a location that
6771s	came from or fled from what are the
6774s	plans for each base class to have its
6775s	own short sub Quest that ties into their
6778s	effect of their world
6780s	um I think it's a great thing that we've
6781s	talked about doing
6783s	um having the the really logical place
6786s	for that to go is right at the start of
6788s	the game
6789s	oh
6790s	um
6793s	however like Story one logic storyline
6796s	wise storyline wise Logic the best place
6799s	that goes really sorry where you're
6800s	discovering these characters you're
6802s	learning about them
6803s	um all sort of stuff however
6809s	there is a bit of an issue with oh come
6812s	on
6813s	um
6816s	uh two people starting characters at the
6818s	same time and they're different classes
6820s	and they and they have this early game
6822s	experience where the
6825s	um
6828s	where your uh early game experience you
6831s	split up and do something different
6834s	uh which we don't like which is part of
6836s	the reason why we've been reworking the
6837s	Mastery selection scene
6840s	um
6844s	at uh
6847s	to pick your Mastery so that you don't
6848s	split up as much
6860s	um but yeah I do think that's
6861s	interesting
6862s	uh and I think that would make a good
6865s	Quest
6866s	um
6867s	and tie into backstories and all sort of
6869s	stuff I think that's I think that sort
6870s	of stuff's really powerful oh come on
6887s	I am the greatest
6899s	we got there though this T3 Jeweler down
6905s	all right I'm currently playing a
6907s	Warpath build and I keep a last laugh in
6911s	my inventory to swap to call off boss
6913s	the 20 hp there's no cooldown when
6915s	swapping weapons this is problematic
6917s	gameplay
6931s	um
6934s	no
6938s	kinda
6940s	I I don't think it's great
6943s	um I think it kind of goes a little bit
6946s	against
6948s	uh
6950s	uh that's a cool helmet
6953s	doesn't have what we want so I'm not
6954s	gonna use it
6959s	um
6960s	it's it's yeah it's not great that it
6962s	does that's the thing
6964s	um I think you're smart for doing it I
6965s	think it's I think it's uh totally in so
6969s	this is actually interesting the the
6970s	system is designed to always drop two
6972s	items that can make a legendary together
6978s	um it's just a little side here so uh
6980s	because the boss normally drops a ring
6982s	but can drop this helmet
6984s	um and because I dropped the helmet it
6987s	forces an exalted helmet to drop with it
6989s	so you can uh make a legendary item so
6992s	no matter what you have in your
6993s	inventory you can make a legendary item
6995s	when you get to the end here no matter
6997s	what
6999s	fun fact
7001s	um
7004s	totally not distracting from that
7005s	question that I don't want to answer
7007s	really
7010s	um it's it's not ideal
7013s	and you may notice that there's no
7014s	weapon swap tab here which I definitely
7016s	still want but it's also very
7019s	intentionally not there so
7020s	all right we don't helmet
7024s	this is the helmet I have it's pretty
7025s	good it has the poison and necrotic
7027s	resistance which we desperately need
7028s	some of it also has CDR and Mana which
7032s	are wonderful stats
7035s	um
7037s	for us so we're going to do that we need
7039s	the helmet I think here but we're gonna
7040s	first
7044s	also right at the end and I didn't get
7046s	calls you got to get on me for uh for
7049s	for spoilers because I I kind of didn't
7050s	do the spoilers today
7052s	I have more spoilers so we're gonna do
7054s	that still
7056s	um okay let's do the necrotic resistance
7059s	first that's what we want a lot uh and
7062s	then Mana nice oh [ __ ] so lucky here
7067s	boom that's what I'm talking about right
7069s	there
7070s	right to 21. oh
7073s	oh
7076s	feels good
7079s	all right
7091s	boys and res all right there we go that
7093s	works for me I got the exalted one twice
7096s	in a row
7099s	all right
7102s	I'll take I should probably actually
7103s	take it I'll take it and leave it there
7106s	oh my camera on this side's all messed
7108s	up no God
7110s	let's look at it let's go back
7112s	um
7115s	all right well I can take poison res off
7116s	a bunch of places now so that's great
7119s	swap it over to void res love it
7124s	it's not the dev client you can see
7125s	right up here and there's also if it was
7127s	the dev client there'd be if I press
7129s	these two keys a Dev client uh stuff
7131s	would show up and it's not so
7133s	not deaf client I know you can't see me
7135s	pressing the keys but I just pressed the
7136s	keys that I activate Dev mode
7138s	and it does nothing
7140s	uh all right uh I've got some I got some
7144s	cool stuff for you right at the end of
7145s	the right at the end of the day
7147s	um here is
7149s	this I will say is a unique item art
7154s	to the art unique item to the Arts last
7156s	time there was uh something that went up
7159s	that
7161s	um many people thought
7164s	was a unique weapon that was not this is
7166s	a unique weapon or uh item signed a
7169s	weapon
7172s	yes new unique weapon coming soon Rock
7178s	okay we got one more for you
7181s	uh and you saw a little bit of this
7182s	earlier in the Stream but here's a full
7184s	view of it nice turnaround
7188s	here we go
7193s	so pretty
7197s	it's great
7198s	uh could you enable Dev mode for my
7200s	account sorry no
7206s	yeah she Purdy
7209s	all right well that will uh we're
7212s	getting down to the bar here we just hit
7213s	our
7214s	two hour mark which is where we usually
7216s	end um I'll give a quick second for if
7218s	anyone wants
7220s	um
7220s	this is not MTX
7224s	not MTX this is just stuff in the game
7236s	that's all the questions we got today
7238s	close things out I had a great stream
7240s	this is a good one
7244s	can I wear that kinda
7246s	it's not
7248s	gear
7251s	but you can look like that
7257s	vague descriptions
7263s	all right here let's see what we've got
7266s	going on
7274s	oh looks like we got a lovely person
7275s	here doing some
7278s	all right
7279s	some stuff
7284s	all right well that'll about to do it
7286s	for us today if you have any more
7287s	questions
7288s	um please head on over to our Discord I
7290s	hope you had fun I know I did I'll see
7291s	you next time same time same place
7294s	um
7295s	that'll be it for me I oh we I do answer
7298s	questions about Discord Reddit
7301s	um forums lots of places uh there's lots
7303s	of community members that know all sorts
7305s	of stuff that happy to answer questions
7306s	for you as well
7307s	um
7308s	we'll see you next week bye everybody

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