[2022] Developer Stream 6.24.22 | Last Epoch | Last Epoch Dev Tracker

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3s	good afternoon everybody welcome back to
5s	the last eport
6s	epoch devstream
8s	oh as always i'm your host mike
12s	hello
13s	and something is going on can you guys
15s	hear me twice hello
17s	i can hear me talking and it's really
20s	disorienting
24s	but we're here uh so as always
28s	we
29s	are oh great this sounds good oh i'm
32s	just gonna live with hearing myself
33s	talking maybe
35s	the whole time
36s	it's really weird
38s	we're uh we're gonna keep going we've
39s	got the stolen lance uh monolith that
41s	we're gonna roll through here
44s	oh i've gotta figure out a way to fix
46s	this
51s	started right as i went to introduce
53s	myself and it really threw me so i
54s	stumbled right the gate there
58s	[Music]
70s	i didn't fix it i got really excited
72s	because i fixed it and i just muted the
74s	microphone thank you very much
77s	for watching us who has reset for four
79s	months in a row there was also a sub
80s	earlier too i think
82s	crazy buffalo heads up with twitch prime
84s	thank you very much
86s	oh we better get our
89s	our build going here
94s	yeah mike's got to deal with this
95s	because mike can handle us if this is
97s	your first time here welcome
100s	i
100s	am one of the developers for this game
102s	last epoch 11th hour games
105s	and i like to stream every week and
106s	answer people's questions so if you've
108s	got any please put an ad last ep game in
110s	the question title and i will be happy
112s	to answer it as soon as i see it uh as
115s	well we always stream for charity so all
117s	of the monies goes to charity it goes to
119s	these people up here uh right now it is
121s	the ms society
135s	i gotta hear my own breathing it's that
137s	sensitive
143s	oh
145s	am i slicing the audio yeah it's feeding
146s	back into my own sound somehow but none
149s	of you are hearing it
151s	which is why i'm confused
158s	so i don't think it's actually a problem
160s	with
161s	streamlabs i think it's a problem with
162s	my headset
165s	do this that fix it
167s	that fix it
169s	not really a little better
174s	i have one question 0.9 when well you
177s	may have noticed that in the recent
178s	update there was not a date announced
181s	and i do not have a date for you
184s	so i'm sure i'll get the question about
186s	the stream and that's totally fine
188s	but i'm just gonna keep saying when it's
189s	ready
206s	we had pretty i mean like we can we can
208s	do some
210s	some speculating let's do some group
211s	speculating here so we'd said that
214s	0.8.6 was what we were going for before
216s	sorry sorry i hinted at it a bit and
218s	that was going to be september-ish
220s	so let's say september was anywhere from
222s	august to october
225s	and
227s	now we've switched we've decided to do
229s	0.9 instead which is way more work and
231s	way more stuff and it's going to take
234s	way
235s	more time to get in
236s	um
238s	it's probably going to be later than
240s	september to october
242s	or uh august october i would assume we
245s	don't actually have a date for it yet
246s	we're gonna get in as soon as it's done
248s	but uh
252s	i would not expect it in september
268s	all right oh this is it's this is
271s	bothering me
272s	the uh feeding back it doesn't mean this
274s	or something can i still hear it
276s	it is
277s	yeah it's
284s	this is the problem
286s	because i can't talk like this
294s	is that any better nope
305s	is that any better
307s	can you all hear me now that's still
309s	there
310s	oh well i'm gonna deal with it
313s	all right i have the most important
314s	question how come
316s	the steam community discussion panel has
318s	too many
319s	not very nice people
322s	i think that when you're in a
325s	larger pool of
327s	games so like on our forums or our
328s	discord
330s	like it's really just
331s	like the community is just about our
333s	game only
335s	um
337s	and even on our on our reddit you still
339s	get it's just our community on that
340s	reddit and you
342s	sort of have these communities split a
343s	little bit more but then when you're in
344s	steam it sort of feels like a single
347s	like a larger community almost of
349s	everyone on scene and you're more
351s	readily compared to other games and
353s	you're more early access like people who
354s	primarily play other games
356s	um
356s	and i i think it might just be
360s	a little bit of a difference sort of
362s	like
364s	where you sit and by comparison or where
365s	you sit on your own
378s	you get different communities wherever
379s	you go
384s	all right can you say you feel you are
385s	hoping for sabertooth rework
388s	can we say what
390s	can you say the feel you are hoping for
392s	with sabretooth rework in terms of
394s	flavor and feel um i mean the i think
397s	the flavor and general feel
399s	themes are kind of already there
401s	um
403s	and it's more about just
404s	bringing those out and making them work
407s	that maybe we're better to make them
408s	work at all
410s	like it's it's uh it's like it's a
412s	predatory cat um
415s	so like
416s	high damage
419s	is probably a pretty key part of it
423s	it's a pretty big individual minion
433s	um there's still still we still have
434s	that cold teaming as an auction
437s	um but but less than 50 of the entire
440s	tree that makes any sense
453s	all right let's try not to die while we
456s	play and answer questions
468s	if you want mike to answer your question
469s	i should put a lsd pokemon yeah that's a
471s	good thing to do
473s	i don't know which one i missed but uh
475s	repost it
476s	i saw a new forge guard
479s	i was right above touchy topic the epic
481s	failure of wilson i mean they had
484s	they they made a ton of money
486s	they um
488s	like still could still pull it out
492s	epic failure might be a
495s	bit of an exaggeration might maybe like
496s	a disappointment might be a better way
498s	to put it anyways um
502s	where am i i'm reading stuff
504s	uh is your development team open to
506s	feedback pertaining to other games such
508s	as your uh competition for example path
510s	of exile diablo unlike other games i
512s	mean i i think feedback by comparison to
515s	games that are genre leaders like path
517s	of exile and diablo is
520s	uh is great just being compared to to
522s	the big boys like that is awesome i mean
526s	like you
529s	especially like so um
530s	path of exile has been is very similar
532s	in a lot of ways and has been
536s	doing this and doing this really well
537s	for a really long time
540s	and uh
541s	being compared to them is
543s	is thrilling and wonderful and i know we
545s	don't always come off in the best light
546s	when compared to them because they've
547s	got so much awesome stuff but just i
550s	don't know having that as part of the
552s	conversation is cool
553s	um
556s	and and we're working to be uh
560s	to be
561s	like primary people in that conversation
563s	of
564s	like what rpg do you want to play which
565s	rpgs do you want to play like we want to
567s	be in that conversation we want to be a
571s	bible option is the answer to those
572s	questions
576s	think we are
579s	definitely making our way
586s	getting better every day
596s	i i'm also realizing looking at this
598s	question i think i may have
599s	missed something that happened with
600s	wilson
602s	why that would be a touchy topic
604s	it seems like a reasonable question to
605s	me
608s	anyways
612s	i saw new forge guardian summon model
615s	looks really dope thank you it is pretty
617s	cool really want to play a melee
619s	summoner sentinel in the future yeah
621s	it's gonna it's it's a big change like
624s	you go from this thing that it's
626s	literally oh i mentioned this before
627s	it's literally the primalist model
629s	the um the old primeless model so before
632s	we rework the primals model that's what
633s	the manifest armor is
635s	uh it's that with no texture
638s	on the skin um but wearing certain armor
640s	and then i guess we replaced the body
642s	texture with this like spell from a pack
644s	for
645s	uh like
647s	a lava lamp or something you know it's
649s	not exactly what it is something like
650s	that
651s	um
654s	yeah
657s	there's a reason it doesn't look great
663s	but the new one
665s	the new ones what happens when you give
666s	very talented artists time
668s	and freedom to
670s	make awesome stuff and they make awesome
673s	stuff
676s	do i walk right past the uh
689s	no i'm just gonna kill more stuff for
691s	fun
692s	we're cranking that stability meter
693s	let's go
698s	it's okay
702s	i'm gonna complain like eight more times
703s	about my headset feeding back into my
705s	microphone back into my headset here so
707s	here's this is a number this is number
709s	nine eight more after this it's gonna
711s	happen
717s	uh is it in the cars the map waypoints
720s	are only only revealed as you unlock
723s	them yeah okay so this is an interesting
725s	topic
725s	um and
727s	i totally know what you're getting at
728s	because uh we what am i doing come on
731s	mike let's drop this we don't need that
733s	or that probably
734s	oh we might need those shields
740s	um let's do the whole question first
743s	uh it feels kind of spoilery
746s	to write from the start of the game see
747s	the different waypoints and each gear i
749s	like surprises yeah
751s	and
754s	this is this is a tricky one because
755s	we've considered this a few times we've
756s	gone back and forth on it a few times
759s	i don't think we'll probably fully
762s	remove them
763s	i think what's more likely to happen is
765s	having them
767s	like
768s	i don't like an option to hide them or
770s	something or like something in the
771s	settings that's like
773s	spoiler free map
775s	i don't know
777s	we might it's definitely still something
778s	that we're gonna go back and forth on a
780s	few times probably but for now it's not
782s	gonna change i don't think
784s	but i definitely hear ya
787s	i'm currently catching up with i hate
788s	when you click on the question
790s	covers the top right corner i'm
791s	currently catching up with all the dev
793s	streams i've missed instead of last play
794s	it's a lot of content to keep it away
796s	for a while uh playing the background
798s	while playing wishing it was live so i
800s	could ask my questions well welcome you
801s	are live
807s	and yeah timmy hound please bother me
808s	that's what i'm here for i'm here to be
810s	bothered
815s	hello laters
817s	and ariel thank you very much for the
819s	resub 14 months in a row
822s	very
823s	very impressive
825s	i love it
826s	you've been here
828s	the whole time i think
831s	14 seems like the most i see these days
843s	14 is the most i've ever seen probably
845s	actually
847s	that's really cool that's really cool
850s	over a year
854s	all right
855s	more questions
857s	they're like they're suspended to me i
859s	need them to live give me the questions
862s	uh do you guys feel honored or upset
864s	when you
865s	introduce a ward system to their game
869s	with how long things take to get
871s	implemented
872s	and i i i would be surprised if it was
876s	uh
878s	directly because of us
880s	i i
881s	i would guess that there's probably
883s	been a system like that sort of in the
886s	back burner
887s	uh like in the works on the back burner
888s	for quite a while now and they sort of
890s	just uh been working on
892s	the right moment to bring it in
894s	um if they're if their list of things
896s	they want to add someday to the game is
898s	anywhere near as big as ours which i'm
900s	sure it's bigger uh
902s	it was it was they already have it
904s	there's so many things that we have on
906s	lists
907s	um
908s	we've had a few
909s	uh a few poe leagues have come out where
912s	we're like well i guess we can't do that
913s	anymore
915s	um and like it it happens where you just
918s	like get similar ideas
920s	um
921s	i don't think it was stolen or anything
923s	like that is the implication really um i
926s	mean if it was that's pretty cool right
928s	there's there's uh there's differences
930s	and there's so many different ways that
932s	um
933s	the interactions the rest of the game
934s	effect didn't change how the nuances of
936s	it would work and behave and all that
937s	sort of stuff i think it's cool um
940s	there's there are there are things that
942s	have
942s	um
944s	like
945s	that's not the only thing that they've
946s	come out with that we already had in our
948s	game and i don't think any of those
949s	other ones were stolen either really um
952s	there was a volatile reversal
955s	i don't know what it's called in in poe
956s	unfortunately but the one where you just
958s	like press the button and it jumps you
959s	back to a recent time and there's it
961s	like shows you like a ghost
963s	behind you which we've like toyed with
965s	and everything and when we saw they were
967s	announcing it we actually put a rework
968s	for the skill on hold we wanted to see
970s	uh how they solved a few problems that
972s	we were we were having
974s	um
975s	and so we can keep it unique and we've
977s	got some stuff for that that's different
979s	than what they're doing um
981s	that i think's gonna be really cool once
982s	we once we finally get that put together
985s	then that skill has some usability
987s	problems
988s	uh right now
991s	but i think it could be a lot of fun
997s	and for anyone that's curious uh the the
999s	prototype version that we were creating
1000s	with usability upgrades still could turn
1003s	it into the current version if you
1004s	wanted
1010s	this boss is really a lot better now
1013s	since uh
1014s	a lot of the uh changes happened
1016s	recently for performance
1025s	how come added cold damage to your
1027s	weapon won't freeze it just chills even
1029s	when added with tons of freeze rate um
1032s	added um inherent
1035s	cold it's just a function of how we've
1036s	done it um you know since freeze is a
1039s	hard cc
1041s	um
1042s	giving one damage type a hard cc is kind
1046s	of dangerous and either requires the
1048s	damage on that that type to be way lower
1050s	or the like the freeze to be pretty weak
1053s	and
1054s	um we figured it it works better where
1057s	you have to have a specific effect or
1060s	stat to like give you the freeze on top
1062s	of it it's just the way we liked it
1068s	i want to keep these things but i just
1070s	want to like throw out other stuff
1075s	aha so much room yes
1082s	uh i have been saying i'm gonna fix this
1084s	for years now one day we'll fix it
1088s	so recognize there's a bunch of single
1090s	item things instead of doing one it
1091s	pairs them up
1096s	all right i'm sure there was something i
1097s	needed in there
1099s	oh well
1102s	get to that experience now i went to the
1103s	wrong one dang it that's okay
1106s	[Music]
1111s	it was rather touchy as wilson had a
1113s	large-scale ban of players from the
1115s	in-game and disco channels for
1116s	mentioning other games they made rules
1117s	against discussing the games interesting
1120s	i mean like
1122s	we have
1124s	uh like for for full discussion
1127s	specifically like you're gonna discuss
1128s	uh
1130s	um i don't know if you're gonna sit and
1131s	discuss uh builds in poe
1134s	not related to last epoch but just like
1136s	the whole discussion is about what's the
1138s	best build for this this upcoming league
1140s	and it has nothing to do with last epoch
1142s	yeah that that content's not encouraged
1144s	in our discord and we do have channels
1146s	specifically for off-topic discussion so
1148s	i can see that being non-ideal but i i
1150s	don't i don't know the circumstances
1151s	like yeah
1153s	i don't know what happened i probably
1154s	shouldn't comment on something i don't
1155s	know anything about
1158s	i like to think there was a good reason
1159s	for it
1160s	i'm not sure if there was or not
1165s	call me an optimist that's okay
1173s	but i can understand how that would be
1174s	frustrating as well
1175s	definitely
1177s	you are welcome to discuss other games
1178s	here that's totally fine
1181s	um
1183s	i hope it's in context of last epoch or
1185s	in relation to last epoch but
1187s	you know
1188s	have fun with it
1196s	oh okay i played through the sounds of
1198s	the joss update this week and it's
1200s	getting i was going to tell you awesome
1202s	zone design thank you very much it
1204s	wasn't me but thank you for the people
1205s	who it was um
1207s	voice acting familiar characters who
1209s	might become super villains in the
1210s	future
1210s	maybe
1212s	um
1216s	trying to die here
1220s	all right most important the boss fight
1221s	just awesome design i just got to tell
1223s	you seeing majesta rip herself apart by
1225s	the void start was quite gruesome more
1227s	gore and shocking than the most boss
1229s	fights in other gory games like even
1232s	diablo there's there's um i don't know
1234s	if you've seen the uh the new update
1237s	that just just went out uh yesterday day
1239s	before somewhere there really really
1241s	recently about um
1243s	combat updates there's a death end
1245s	there's new death animation for uh void
1247s	penance and it is
1248s	uh it's that's a little gruesome of a
1250s	death animation
1255s	it's quite nice
1256s	it's it's interesting finding the time
1257s	to use like death animations and when to
1259s	use ragdoll and uh
1261s	like when to use other
1263s	combinations or other
1265s	any sorts of other things as well uh
1267s	just
1269s	we're taking a lot of looks at combat
1271s	feels and
1272s	uh things like death animations and it's
1274s	it's really interesting to see all the
1276s	options and um
1278s	things we've created recently so that's
1280s	cool i got a couple little teasers for
1281s	you on that
1283s	okay here we go i'm going to play more
1285s	here's one of my complaints
1287s	it's so frustrating i can it's like it's
1289s	a very you know you're talking on a
1291s	phone to someone who's like on like an
1294s	old handheld phone or like a really old
1296s	cell phone back in the day when it would
1297s	like
1298s	uh you could like kind of hear yourself
1299s	echoing through
1301s	come back
1303s	you you have a tough time talking
1305s	because you want to listen to yourself
1306s	finish the sentence
1309s	whatever seven all right here we go
1311s	uh any plans to add randomized events
1313s	encounters in the echoes yeah there's
1315s	lots of cool things we've got plans for
1317s	especially in the monolith echoes
1319s	because this is right now they're
1320s	missing the key thing that's missing is
1321s	a reason to explore um you kind of just
1324s	go to the the quest and finish it there
1326s	you go we've tried to add little things
1328s	like the more things you kill the more
1329s	um
1331s	uh the more rewards you get at the end
1333s	the more stability you get in total um
1335s	so this bonus stability you gain for
1336s	killing more things
1339s	um and so there's like
1341s	there's there's things we try to do to
1343s	make you stop and fight stuff but
1344s	there's not only anything we have to
1345s	make you want to explore
1348s	um
1349s	and
1351s	and we need we need to add things like
1353s	that and pathfix has a really good um
1356s	natural way of making you want to
1357s	explore and that you have a limited like
1360s	the key costs you like the the map sorry
1362s	the key the map to get into the uh
1366s	the map
1368s	uh costs it has holds value in itself
1371s	and so you want to get the most out of
1373s	the map you can so intrinsically you
1374s	just because the map has value and you
1376s	have a limited time sometimes you can go
1378s	back in and everything you want to just
1379s	go and explore and get as much as you
1380s	can
1381s	um
1382s	because we don't have that we have to
1384s	come up with other things on top of that
1385s	path of excel also
1387s	has things like where you can just find
1388s	a random map inside the map um you know
1391s	there's random events that show up and
1392s	things like that and by exploring you
1394s	see more of those
1395s	um
1398s	and and so we've
1400s	we've got a few other little tricks too
1402s	to make exploring
1404s	better because just adding those on
1406s	their own doesn't actually make you want
1408s	to explore um
1410s	but there's things you can do to make
1412s	certain
1413s	maps either or certain echoes have uh
1416s	like maybe a higher chance or
1419s	uh maybe there's like uh you can like
1420s	load up drop rate on a specific one and
1423s	so if you get one of these special
1424s	things in that specific one um it's even
1427s	more valuable so there's like there'll
1428s	be certain maps are like okay i gotta
1430s	explore this one entirely or like this
1432s	one i can just rush through and i think
1434s	having like subtleties like that will
1435s	really help a lot
1438s	um
1439s	i don't have any details of what i'm
1440s	sort of vaguely referencing but but yeah
1442s	we want to add things to make you want
1444s	to explore which i know some people have
1446s	been asking for for a long time um
1449s	and it's i mean
1451s	so many things people like we want this
1452s	i'm like yeah we're working on it's
1454s	gonna be a while
1461s	oh hi hello
1463s	uh
1464s	last epoch uses unity right yes any
1466s	horror stories you can share about it
1468s	not really unity's been fantastic for us
1470s	overall
1471s	there's been a few little things here
1472s	and there that like would have been
1473s	nicer yada yada but like
1475s	um
1476s	it provided a way for us to get up and
1478s	running really quickly and and
1480s	facilitated us to
1482s	like get this project off the ground
1483s	really easily and like there's a lot of
1485s	stuff that's been really great about it
1487s	um
1488s	and i i don't think this project would
1490s	look like it does today without it so i
1492s	mean
1493s	not that i want to share really
1496s	because i like it
1498s	give it up given all the things that
1499s	could have been better
1501s	i don't think we'd be where we are
1502s	without it
1512s	also what if they're listening i'm just
1514s	kidding
1519s	are there plans to sign picking up
1521s	shards to hockey not at the moment no
1524s	but that like
1525s	any plans to i mean
1528s	doesn't mean much but no there's no
1529s	plans too
1547s	new mechanics like ward great minds
1549s	think like a yeah uh i think i missed
1552s	something with huey did they like just
1553s	announce ward or something
1555s	like like different than i thought it
1556s	was
1564s	it's like a brand new thing
1568s	that's like something's changed
1576s	no okay it's the same thing i thought it
1578s	was
1579s	yeah
1586s	cool
1591s	where are we
1592s	where are we do you guys have any plans
1594s	to do a community driven unique item
1595s	again oh yeah first one went great
1599s	i understand if it's something that
1600s	needs to be limited to uh quantity by
1602s	necessity but it's not a really cool
1604s	idea yeah i think it's um
1606s	things like that i think we are more
1608s	interested in doing especially in early
1609s	access as sort of like a thank you to
1611s	people who are with us when we're like
1614s	first starting out the game and
1616s	um
1618s	like there's not a ton of uniques yet
1619s	like there's quite a few but there needs
1621s	to be a lot more um
1623s	and i think it's i think it's really fun
1625s	to get the community involved with
1626s	things like this and
1628s	uh
1629s	you know there's this
1630s	thing the game's not finished yet and
1632s	and a lot of you have had to endure with
1635s	not awesome things in certain certain
1637s	circumstances uh and we appreciate that
1639s	and i think uh
1641s	letting the people who are especially
1642s	people who are here early and are are
1645s	are with us before the game is actually
1646s	out having them
1648s	be influential in in the in the design i
1650s	think is really uh it's a nice little
1651s	touch and
1653s	um
1654s	i mean the first item that you all made
1658s	i i'm it's great
1660s	it's a ton of unused uh
1663s	and it's
1664s	like
1666s	uh
1670s	it's it's really cool
1672s	and in like a long time
1675s	uh
1677s	cool stuff's gonna be there with it
1679s	because it's really cool all right
1681s	yeah
1687s	sorry i'm realizing there's stuff like
1689s	close to saying like shouldn't say and
1691s	uh so i'm not saying it and i'm sorry
1694s	just explain the the trail off there a
1696s	little bit that's what happens sometimes
1698s	catch myself
1704s	uh next question
1707s	uh also just curious on everyone's end
1709s	is there an uh upcoming feature system
1711s	that you guys
1713s	are excited to present to us yeah i mean
1714s	yes i'm not trying to get a spoiler i
1716s	like surprises just want to know if you
1718s	guys have new thing project you guys
1719s	can't wait to announce i mean there's
1720s	there's always things that were like oh
1722s	one day this is gonna be so weird
1725s	and yeah there are
1727s	there always is
1732s	oh there's nothing implemented and ready
1734s	to go yet so
1737s	not like immediately but
1740s	i mean multiplayer that's the big thing
1741s	that's the next big thing
1743s	um
1744s	which i'm very excited for everyone to
1746s	see an experience
1759s	i see questions about the latest classes
1761s	so guys uh development on warlock
1764s	runemaster and
1765s	falconer have not started
1767s	uh apart from ideation and concepting
1771s	generally what's going to happen roughly
1773s	uh i
1774s	none of the skills have been started
1776s	none of the passive trees have been
1777s	started
1778s	uh
1779s	like it's it's the exact same spot it's
1781s	been for
1782s	since we announced they existed
1784s	um
1789s	yeah they'll be out by 1.0 at the latest
1793s	and they will not be out in the next
1794s	patch
1795s	so not the next match and 1.0 with the
1797s	latest or somewhere in between the next
1799s	match 1.0
1801s	like yeah that's
1803s	that's all the info we got unfortunately
1805s	and i understand they're really exciting
1807s	people want him
1808s	so i do not begrudge asking the question
1810s	at all
1813s	i would love to and i think other people
1815s	that love lore would too to have a dead
1817s	stream with the loremaster playing
1818s	through the entire campaign giving us
1819s	commentary in the games lore and how the
1821s	game came with it currently with what is
1823s	currently in the game i mean super duper
1825s	on board with that yes
1827s	um
1828s	i don't know if we can do the entire
1829s	campaign in one shot well definitely not
1831s	in one shot but like
1833s	um
1834s	we might we might have to like
1835s	start part way through the campaign or
1837s	something like that or uh break it up
1839s	over like like one stream a month for a
1842s	few months or something like that and
1843s	have like our lore character in our lore
1844s	session that happens
1846s	my goodness i might die here
1849s	um
1851s	but yeah i've talked to him and uh i
1854s	know he's interested in uh
1856s	in doing that um we used that it was
1859s	really cool when um
1861s	back when there was like 10 of us
1863s	uh we would and like oh it's like maybe
1866s	20 of us total type thing like early
1868s	days of this project um we would have uh
1871s	story time
1873s	uh ev every
1874s	once a week we'd have story time and it
1876s	was where laura master would just go
1878s	through and
1879s	sort of
1880s	unveil the storyline that of the game we
1883s	were creating because it like wasn't
1884s	fully finished and fully fleshed out and
1885s	like as he was um designing more of it
1888s	and creating more of it and um
1891s	we were like
1894s	having these like little story sessions
1896s	it was really cool it's a ton of fun
1898s	um
1899s	and
1900s	uh yeah like a lot's changed since then
1902s	as well in the story um
1904s	but we i'm sure i'm sure we could get
1905s	them on and there's a lot of store
1907s	questions that come up and i'm like i
1908s	have no idea
1911s	because i'm the worst sort of typical
1914s	uh story skipper of all time
1917s	um like i know our story really well but
1919s	there's lots of little nuance details
1922s	that like
1924s	i don't know the answer to
1930s	i think some people who've
1932s	played the storyline
1934s	80 times and picked up on that i would
1936s	never have noticed
1944s	oh
1945s	here we go get out of there run run run
1956s	my goodness me
1972s	i knew items could drop from uh from
1975s	enemies in here
1979s	came up recently someone was asking i'm
1981s	like how are they used to my camera if i
1983s	can still
1984s	all right once the game launches will
1986s	players characters be region locked um i
1988s	don't know if you have full details on
1989s	that i really
1990s	don't think so
1992s	um
1993s	i i
1995s	this is very subject to change so i
1997s	really want to make that with a huge
1999s	disclaimer disclaimer
2002s	subject to change i need like a little
2003s	animation um and
2008s	what it'll be is you'll be you'll have a
2010s	default
2011s	location this is very subject to change
2013s	this is the way it's currently set up
2015s	and could change
2016s	um you'll have your default location
2019s	um
2021s	and
2024s	also this is going to there might be
2025s	there might be rules from certain
2026s	regions that force us to change this as
2028s	well and i don't know what those rules
2030s	are or what those regions could be but
2031s	that's possible
2032s	um so you'll have a default region that
2034s	you'll be able to say like no my default
2036s	region's actually this because i always
2038s	play with people there and it gets me
2040s	better frame rate for some reason
2042s	um
2043s	and whenever you join a game you'll join
2045s	your default region which you can change
2047s	uh
2048s	and
2049s	but you can still
2051s	like
2052s	party with people that you know from
2054s	other regions
2055s	and you'll just like if you join the
2056s	game you'll jump over to their region
2058s	basically whoever's the party leader
2059s	will dictate the region
2070s	that's the way it works right now
2075s	super duper could change
2082s	um
2086s	i hate this feedback so much six left
2089s	uh how much was spelled feedback to my
2091s	headset voice my voice feedback right
2094s	now it's happened before i have no idea
2095s	how i fixed it probably restart my
2097s	computer or something but i won't stop
2098s	the stream
2099s	uh how much was probably inspired by
2102s	enchant melee story from diablo 2 a lot
2106s	um
2107s	like not intentionally i don't think but
2109s	i um
2111s	i i pushed very hard for it i didn't
2114s	have much resistance at all but i was a
2116s	big driving force behind let's make sure
2119s	there's a mailing
2120s	mage build where you can like buff up
2122s	your melee attacks and go to go to town
2126s	and one of my favorite builds in diablo
2129s	2 is an enchantress love it
2132s	um
2134s	like you get like a flame tongue while
2135s	you're leveling and you're like oh yeah
2137s	plus three fire skills or whatever it is
2139s	plus two um
2141s	hey like you're truly awful that you you
2144s	hop in a game with like as you're
2146s	leveling um there's like a barbarian and
2148s	you give them enchant they're just like
2149s	i love you follow me everywhere
2153s	um
2154s	i was pretty cool i liked it a lot
2156s	and uh
2161s	so i think i think there was some some
2163s	subconscious influence
2166s	um
2171s	and it's it's like it's not a rare
2173s	concept you know like they've
2175s	i could probably riddle off another
2177s	dozen games with the same type of
2180s	uh character archetype and when you're
2182s	looking at mage um mastery classes it's
2185s	it's not easy to come up with unique and
2189s	interesting play styles for mastery
2191s	classes in mage
2192s	um
2193s	we actually do have a really great
2194s	fourth one uh
2197s	that we're hoping to add in at some
2198s	point um
2202s	so like th there there are them there
2205s	it was it's just i think that uh a melee
2208s	style mage class is a very natural
2211s	extension of the mage class
2218s	do you guys plan to release the game
2220s	on gog.com not at the moment
2225s	gog has some really specific
2227s	requirements
2229s	um
2231s	for
2232s	[Music]
2233s	like what you're allowed to do in game
2236s	um
2239s	like like if there's ever a game mode i
2242s	don't know i don't know the details of
2243s	the rules but there's there's a few
2244s	things where we're like we don't know if
2246s	we want to do that or not we're going to
2248s	decide later for now it's just these two
2251s	um
2254s	so we don't have plans for it but it's
2256s	possible
2266s	there's something really minor and silly
2268s	too i can't know what it was
2277s	but
2278s	steam just
2279s	seems so fantastic that we're like
2283s	okay a big part of it is just having
2285s	more platforms to release on
2287s	just sucks in general because it takes a
2289s	lot of time
2290s	to to build things for multiple
2292s	platforms like even just having
2294s	steam and our standalone
2297s	kind of sucks
2299s	as soon as we have two it's just like
2305s	it doubles the amount of work to release
2307s	a patch more than doubles because seems
2308s	way easier than our standalone one is
2313s	all right
2314s	uh watching the other older dev streams
2317s	makes me realize how many awesome
2318s	features we didn't know yet you telling
2321s	chad that we didn't know what legendary
2322s	items are but you did if you think you
2324s	probably really want to spoil how
2325s	awesome it would be but couldn't yeah
2328s	imagine how much your awesomeness you're
2330s	currently hiding from us
2332s	yep
2335s	sorry
2338s	but it's true
2339s	yeah legends were a tough one to keep
2340s	under wraps for so long um they went
2342s	through a lot of changes
2344s	um and and i i'm really happy we managed
2348s	to keep it under wraps
2349s	uh and everything but uh yeah
2354s	there's a lot of stuff that we're like
2358s	there's one really cool one that's like
2360s	it's not even started working on it yet
2362s	but i know we're gonna do it eventually
2364s	and like
2366s	i know everyone's gonna love it i can't
2369s	say anything
2373s	but don't worry
2374s	here's what i can say you've got lots of
2376s	awesome stuff to look forward to
2378s	yeah i had to return the game when it
2380s	first released because my he was running
2382s	like a jet when playing any of the
2383s	issues we fixed i really want to play
2385s	um
2387s	so there's
2389s	lots of different
2391s	uh
2392s	i have no idea what the issue
2394s	specifically was that was causing that
2395s	to happen because there's lots of people
2396s	that are like i have 39 it's totally
2398s	fine or i have decided it's totally fine
2400s	um and there's a lot of people who are
2402s	like i have this crazy amazing hardware
2404s	it's
2405s	not fine so it's a little tricky to
2408s	pinpoint if the problem has been fixed
2409s	or not for you um
2411s	i know we've been doing a lot of stuff
2413s	to to work and improve those things over
2416s	the last year or so
2418s	especially
2419s	um
2420s	when it first released
2422s	yeah okay a lot's changed since then
2425s	a lot has changed since first release um
2432s	there's a lot there's a there's
2434s	like more performance improvements
2435s	coming in our in point nine than we've
2438s	ever had before so
2440s	if you're concerned you can wait till
2441s	then
2442s	um
2444s	and i'll be really confident then
2446s	in telling you that it's fixed
2463s	but yeah like if it makes if it makes
2464s	like i'm playing on a
2467s	seven-year-old i7
2470s	maybe maybe five-year-old i7 maybe a
2472s	five-year-old i7 and
2474s	a
2475s	actually just look it up
2478s	i'm playing on an i7 7700k
2482s	um
2483s	it's blocked at 4.2 gigahertz i have 32
2485s	gigs of ram
2487s	and i have a gtx 1080 ti
2491s	with i think eight gigs of memory on it
2494s	um
2497s	and i i
2499s	maybe i'm just old and don't care about
2500s	frame rates but the only time i have
2502s	issues is like in really specific
2504s	situations
2505s	um while streaming
2507s	the
2513s	like early in the stream it was those
2515s	the the elemental scorpion gorlos or
2519s	what's the wrong name
2520s	crap
2521s	that elemental scorpion dude that i
2523s	can't remember the name of um
2525s	i i got a big legs bike then
2527s	bunch of drops
2531s	but that's gonna get fixed
2533s	real excited
2539s	sorry if you already got asked this but
2541s	i just joined that's okay i'm sure i'll
2542s	be happy to answer it again no problem
2544s	can you share the general gameplay idea
2545s	behind the new classes for example
2547s	they're going to have dot
2549s	pet or other focus themes i can't really
2551s	give you any more info on them i i can't
2553s	say that there's a lot of speculation
2554s	that rune master is going to be a pet
2556s	class that's not the case
2561s	like it's like what am i already said
2563s	before i said falconer is a
2565s	non-traditional pet class so it's not a
2566s	pet class in the sense that you're used
2568s	to calling considering a pet class a pet
2569s	class but it does focus very heavily on
2572s	the falcon
2573s	um
2576s	someone that helps you fight and do
2578s	things like a pet helps you fight and do
2579s	things but it's not a it's kind of a bad
2581s	it's hard to explain what it is you know
2584s	um
2594s	warlock's probably the most up in the
2595s	air of all three of them still
2600s	but there's a really cool unique
2601s	mechanic we had for it i don't know if
2603s	it's gonna stick or not we still made
2604s	the skills that they were planned
2608s	and all this is subject to change as
2610s	when we make skills part of the process
2612s	in making skills is trying them out
2613s	seeing if they're fun and iterating on
2614s	them so because we haven't made any of
2616s	them yet it's a good chance they'll
2617s	change
2631s	zurich and hardin seem to be fairly
2633s	common names in the tarot wouldn't you
2634s	say
2643s	all right remember to tag me yes
2645s	remember to tag me
2647s	there be masochist icing this is
2649s	preference will there be masochist mode
2651s	in online
2652s	mask is in online mode i i don't know i
2655s	think so um
2657s	things like that are still up in the air
2658s	but i
2660s	would be surprised if we cut masochist
2662s	mode
2664s	um
2665s	it's an interesting challenge it's this
2667s	weird mode that like doesn't really make
2669s	any sense because you're like you wanna
2671s	make the game real hard to get nothing
2672s	in return have fun
2676s	like it lives up to the name
2680s	and uh
2683s	so yeah i i really like that it's there
2685s	and for anyone who doesn't know it's
2686s	sort of a
2687s	old epoch lore uh
2689s	fun fact it was originally created as a
2692s	bit of a joke
2693s	when uh we were we were goading chi that
2696s	uh the game was too easy and he was like
2698s	oh yeah i wanna bet
2700s	i was just like here's masochist mode it
2702s	just makes everything twice as hard have
2703s	fun
2706s	i would have started out the first thing
2707s	the first version of it was just all it
2709s	did was gave you a
2712s	um
2713s	a debuff that was just like double
2714s	damage taken and a debuff that says half
2716s	damage dealt that was like the entire
2718s	that's all it was i don't even know what
2720s	it is now but maybe it's the same thing
2721s	still
2737s	uh it would be really cool to see a
2739s	marauder barbarian juggernaut class out
2741s	of the game even if after 1.0 i agree
2744s	i wonder if there's a base class that a
2747s	mastery like that would fit on really
2749s	well
2750s	or not already in the game
2762s	uh super happy to hear about 0.9 io
2765s	development update as my friend and i
2766s	love the game glad to hear this update
2768s	could come out before pathways l2 keep
2770s	us up good keep it up good work thank
2772s	you very much yeah we uh
2775s	we're we've been working just as hard as
2776s	we can to get it as fast as we can and
2778s	that's that's really all there is
2780s	there's not a
2781s	like it has to happen before this or has
2783s	that before that just as soon as
2785s	possible
2786s	let's go
2793s	just bouncing back and forth because
2794s	they're leashing
2805s	those actually hurt a fair bit
2817s	i need to do a little bit of a gear
2818s	upgrade scene i think
2821s	oh i thought it was going to take me up
2822s	there
2823s	disappointment strikes
2825s	let's walk around like a chump
2828s	all right you've mentioned the side
2830s	benefits of the maps poe such as maps
2832s	within maps but from very early on i'd
2834s	say high density maps are the best way
2836s	to level uh to cap so another area to
2839s	consider for model exploration yeah
2841s	there's um
2844s	density is always a question like
2847s	uh is there a point where too much
2849s	density or density is too high like is
2850s	that is there is there a point where
2852s	that is true
2853s	um
2855s	is there
2857s	um
2863s	like
2864s	if the goal is just to level up as fast
2865s	as possible
2867s	is is there a better way to to provide
2869s	that experience to focus on
2871s	maybe something where it's like a really
2872s	specific challenge that
2874s	is just the bonus you get from it is a
2876s	bunch of experience like to just make
2877s	the um experience
2879s	nodes on the map more experience and you
2881s	know something that where you can like
2883s	say like i want experience over
2884s	something else maybe
2887s	um
2892s	and also on top of that we've
2893s	limited uh density in some cases due to
2896s	performance problems which are being
2898s	improved a lot
2900s	so
2902s	hint
2914s	there's a balance there though
2916s	all right
2918s	next question
2919s	[Music]
2921s	will we be able to roll masochist in
2923s	online yeah uh sorry i think it's a
2924s	double question but as far as i know yes
2926s	but uh maybe not undecided
2931s	if i'm really far behind i apologize
2935s	i get rambly and i have to pay attention
2938s	or i die
2942s	if i'm gonna be a hybrid between melee
2944s	and ranged character i i i don't really
2946s	have any more details to share and i'm
2947s	sorry
2951s	model of leaderboard for multiplayer be
2953s	a thing also highlight they're pretty
2955s	good yeah um
2957s	model model leaderboard multiplayer
2959s	that's that's what it's for so like uh
2963s	a monolith yeah
2964s	but yes still i i that's that's still
2966s	something we're planning on doing we're
2967s	not 100 sure exactly how that's gonna
2969s	look um whether it's like highest
2972s	corruption um
2975s	like boss kill times
2977s	um
2979s	there's there's there's a few options on
2981s	what we can make as the oh it's nice
2983s	just take that off
2985s	five
2990s	five five more times complaining with
2991s	this
2993s	um
2996s	starting to get used to hearing my own
2997s	voice i go through
2998s	it's weird
3002s	can you believe that guy he loves the
3004s	sound of his own voice so much uh
3007s	masculine would be great not gonna
3009s	damascus latter
3011s	um
3012s	maybe it's it's it's cool it's one of
3014s	those things yeah it's neat to have a
3016s	ladder we really want to reduce the
3017s	number of splits that the ladder has
3020s	um
3022s	because there's so many different ways
3023s	you can delineate a ladder and be like
3024s	who's the best in this gallery who's the
3025s	best in that category um
3029s	like maybe it's possible i don't know i
3031s	don't
3032s	i don't
3033s	i'm not huge on the idea of splitting
3035s	the ladder anymore than it already is
3036s	because there's already so many ways you
3037s	can split it
3039s	um
3054s	like it depends how it's laid out as
3056s	well maybe it's one of those things
3056s	where like a little icon shows up beside
3059s	your name you can filter the ladder for
3060s	that but really like the ladder is just
3062s	one ladder with a bunch of filters right
3064s	um so part of it is how we present that
3066s	information like oh it's the softcore
3069s	ladder but really it's just the latter
3070s	with the softcore flag turned on you
3071s	know
3079s	don't forget to put at last epoch game
3081s	in your question if you're gonna answer
3082s	it but i see here one as well so i'm
3084s	just gonna do it hi buddy i have 50 odd
3086s	hours in the game i love it i hope this
3088s	game will improve and get better this is
3090s	my new favorite apg after
3095s	i thought it was another gameplay i just
3097s	saw the high buddy at first sight
3098s	didn't really read it but cool thank you
3100s	i appreciate it
3106s	uh current masochist is 200 damage taken
3108s	at 57 damage okay yeah so it's the same
3110s	thing
3115s	it's brutal
3117s	it's brutal
3120s	all right
3121s	are there any plans to implement pvp yes
3127s	if so will be the scope of it and so
3129s	would be released alongside multiplayer
3131s	it will not be released alongside
3133s	multiplayer the initial version of
3134s	author will not have pvp i can tell you
3135s	that for certain
3137s	um what's the scope of it no idea when
3139s	will come out no idea well apart from
3141s	just not next patch
3144s	um
3148s	yeah it's one of those features like we
3150s	want to get it
3152s	it's cool it's a lot of fun we know a
3153s	lot of people like it it's not the
3154s	primary focus of our game um so it's
3158s	it's
3159s	like
3160s	other stuff comes first
3165s	oh it would be possible to have
3166s	dedicated traversal skills
3168s	slot so you don't have to balance
3169s	offense against the ability to go from
3170s	point a to point b faster we looked at
3172s	this actually we took a few options here
3174s	there was um
3176s	we fixed so we figured we figured
3177s	locking in like so we
3180s	start over um
3182s	having
3184s	five skill slots already feels it's
3186s	that's kind of the minimum we think of
3188s	like
3189s	the number of specializable skill slots
3191s	we think we can put in
3194s	and and locking one of those to be a
3197s	movement skill
3200s	feels a little
3202s	a little like it's not really one of
3203s	those slots anymore you know it's like
3205s	okay two movement skill slot
3207s	cool have fun with it
3208s	but you only actually get four to
3210s	customize really
3211s	um
3213s	because in some cases like you're you're
3215s	building you've got to build you need to
3216s	build a certain way and it like forces
3218s	you into a certain move skill or
3219s	something like that so it's
3220s	um and that does happen now a little bit
3222s	too but
3224s	if it was like a completely forced
3225s	because you now you can choose just not
3227s	take the move skill but then it would be
3229s	like you're forced to take the move
3230s	skill so we're like okay we'd have to
3231s	add an extra slot to be the move skill
3233s	slot
3234s	and we're like do we want to add and if
3236s	people are already taking a new skill on
3237s	most of their builds um do we want to
3240s	add a sixth skill slot
3242s	the answer's not really no
3244s	um
3246s	so for now
3248s	we're not planning on it
3253s	doesn't mean no forever but yeah we also
3255s	looked at um kind of removing the
3257s	movement skills
3258s	as a skill per se and just having a
3261s	movement skill kind of like a built-in
3263s	dodge roll movement skill style thing
3266s	for each character and so each character
3268s	would only get one movement skill and
3269s	you could like customize that movement
3270s	skill with a skill tree um it's kind of
3272s	the same thing really
3274s	but it just takes away from feeling more
3275s	like a skill so it's like you have five
3277s	averages
3279s	instead of six skills
3282s	it's kind of the same thing and we
3283s	thought they just kind of complicated
3284s	the matter
3291s	and it seemed it seemed a little bit
3292s	like a slippery slope where we'd be like
3293s	all right so now we're going to have our
3295s	support skills law because oh everyone
3297s	just takes you know one attack and three
3299s	support skills we're like you have a
3300s	support skill slot and then it'll be
3302s	like i have your light attack slot your
3304s	heavy attack slot and it's it seems to
3307s	kind of spiral out of control a little
3309s	bit um
3312s	and and we're just like let's you know
3314s	five slots that's what we want you
3315s	working with really
3317s	build it however you want
3331s	as always if we find a really good
3334s	reason to switch it
3336s	you know
3337s	we'd probably switch it at that point
3358s	uh do you plan to give the community
3360s	your trading implementation ahead of
3362s	time to gamer to garner discussion or
3363s	you want the community to test your
3364s	solution first
3366s	uh
3367s	and then provide feedback
3369s	uh
3370s	i i
3372s	i think what we'll do is we'll give it
3374s	to the community testers
3377s	to get more feedback on first
3381s	um
3385s	with with the knowledge that it's a very
3387s	small subset of players
3388s	um a very specific subset of players
3390s	most most the people that are
3392s	community testers are
3393s	uh pretty pretty dedicated gamers uh and
3397s	um
3399s	it doesn't it's it's not like we know
3400s	that our community testers
3402s	are uh not a full spectrum of everyone
3405s	who plays this game
3407s	we try and get as wide a range of people
3408s	in there as possible and
3410s	um
3413s	i'd say that type of
3416s	uh
3417s	roll
3418s	doesn't appeal too much to
3421s	um
3424s	i don't know the term for people people
3425s	just play less in general
3427s	which is like not a bad thing at all
3430s	um
3431s	we just need to make a system that's
3432s	going to be fun for as many people as
3434s	possible um so we'll we'll we'll
3436s	probably start off by releasing it to
3438s	them and getting initial feedback and
3440s	make sure
3441s	um
3442s	like we like how it's working with at
3445s	least them initially uh
3447s	and and then they would probably share
3449s	it but i'm kind of just i'm super
3450s	speculating here um let me probably
3452s	share what it's going to be before
3453s	releasing it wider
3458s	and get feedback and then
3461s	decide if you want to change anything or
3462s	not and then
3464s	possibly change something if we did and
3465s	then released everyone
3468s	or maybe
3469s	change it go back to the testers like
3470s	there's so many different ways we can we
3471s	can make it work but uh i'm not sure
3474s	what will happen
3475s	some combination of those things
3483s	as i'm talking about i'm like yeah but
3484s	maybe not we might not do that we might
3486s	do that
3494s	all right
3499s	heavy hello
3501s	please implement fixed seed based mono
3503s	echo leader boards that need to be
3504s	completed as fast as possible i'll make
3507s	different difficulties with mob health
3508s	damage so some
3510s	uh required speedy builds while others
3512s	needed a lot of damage etc give it a
3514s	weekly bi-weekly rotation with some cool
3516s	rewards oh like a specific i i i hear
3519s	you're saying um
3521s	uh similar to
3524s	uh like
3525s	the diablo 3
3528s	where there's like that one gives you a
3529s	specific build but like have it be where
3531s	you could bring your own character into
3532s	a pre-configured dungeon
3535s	um or pre-configured monolith or
3537s	something like that
3539s	that that is a cool idea and we've
3540s	definitely talked something like that um
3544s	so many
3545s	so many stuffs i love it
3549s	it's pretty cool
3558s	i think our dudes die enough
3570s	yeah heavy that that sort of thing's um
3572s	i i can see that being something we do
3574s	[Music]
3575s	uh
3577s	oh in a while in quite a while
3580s	you know it doesn't seem like a 1.0
3582s	feature to me but i do love it
3586s	maybe a ladder filter so you could
3587s	filter by whatever end game mode you
3589s	want separate from the main mode ladders
3591s	yeah it's it's one of those things where
3594s	do we
3596s	do do we try to create specific
3598s	categories of competition um
3602s	with how the with how we create the ui
3604s	and how it's presented
3607s	or
3608s	do we just make it a really open system
3611s	and kind of just let the community
3613s	decide what they want the axis of
3614s	competition to be
3616s	if that makes any sense like
3620s	just have one ladder and be like okay
3621s	you can filter for
3623s	these 40 different things
3627s	you know
3630s	because there's something to be said for
3631s	just being able to hop in and see what
3632s	who's at the top of the ladder um
3640s	i don't think then you get builds that
3641s	are like i'm at the top they'll let you
3642s	have like
3643s	20 different primeless builds that are
3644s	like
3646s	top primeless build in the world it's
3647s	like okay yes in this weird selected
3650s	niche category it is true it is the top
3653s	you know weird things like that
3655s	um
3657s	which might be good i don't know
3672s	yeah stack those bleeds
3677s	i wonder how high it's going but i bet
3678s	it's going over 50.
3680s	that's going way over 50.
3685s	uh will abilities like
3688s	rise enemy corpses like specters
3692s	be seen for the necromancer class so
3694s	there's um there's a pretty big problem
3696s	with
3697s	having corpses
3700s	um be resurrectable and interactable
3704s	um he's like right now they kind of they
3707s	do a weird like sink into the floor
3708s	thing which is probably not the best
3710s	like having them decay would be a lot
3711s	better or whatever but um
3714s	having them stick around forever and be
3716s	interactable game objects
3719s	one of the things we do for performance
3721s	is as soon as something dies it it's
3722s	kind of not really there anymore it
3724s	doesn't exist
3726s	all that's left is sort of this visual
3727s	husk that plays out and it's gone and
3730s	there's no game elements that are
3731s	included in there thank you lonzo
3733s	mcfluffin for your
3735s	oh i missed another one too my goodness
3737s	i'm the worst thank you so much for your
3739s	14 months in a row that's awesome much
3741s	appreciate it and also thank you heavy
3744s	for gifting a sub too quiet for me i
3746s	didn't think i heard it yeah it just
3748s	didn't register that's weird it was oh
3750s	was it when i took my headset off
3752s	heavy comes back he's like
3756s	you will listen
3761s	thank you very much happy this is 10.
3764s	i'm going to die if i count i appreciate
3766s	that that looks like 10. thank you very
3767s	much appreciated congrats to everyone
3769s	who got one of those
3773s	sorry i missed the other one
3775s	all right
3778s	um
3783s	all right next question
3788s	oh yeah oh yeah sorry i was talking
3789s	about the horizon is still in the last
3791s	question
3792s	um yeah like resurrecting enemies um
3794s	like ala diablo ii corpse explosion i'll
3796s	deal with something like that where it
3797s	actually uses the corpse it's it's an
3799s	interesting mechanic and it's something
3801s	a lot of people want i'm not saying it's
3802s	impossible i'm saying that they're oh my
3804s	goodness
3809s	i just saw it go whoosh
3812s	thank you to ariel very much that that
3815s	looks a lot i don't know how many i'm
3816s	not gonna try is that
3818s	oh is that 20
3820s	looks like a lot
3823s	i'm going to say it's 20. i don't know
3824s	how many it is but it's plenty burling i
3826s	just want to know
3827s	that's cool thank you very much congrats
3829s	to everyone who got us it's like
3830s	basically everyone hears the sub and
3831s	we're still going this is where is it oh
3834s	my god look what i have all aboard
3838s	[Music]
3851s	all right i'm selling an idiot right now
3853s	it sounds so weird going back into my
3854s	headset
3856s	four
3858s	oh
3859s	thank you so much guys heavy that's
3861s	another 10 from heavy as well
3864s	that's uh incredible i don't even know
3866s	what we're what's happening right now
3871s	oh
3873s	feels good
3876s	i'm gonna mute this for a second because
3878s	i'd like to to be able to talk through
3880s	the
3882s	oh you know you know okay here we go
3885s	this has nothing to do with what just
3887s	happened i promise
3889s	but uh
3891s	i'm gonna i'm gonna show some spoilery
3893s	stuff here
3898s	to be clear i was gonna show this
3900s	anyways and i'm not doing this because
3901s	people donated stuff but i think it's a
3904s	good time
3908s	so we talked in the
3910s	uh
3911s	the big post that went out uh a couple
3913s	days ago yes well yesterday before it's
3915s	been such a world what i can't remember
3916s	this was wednesday it was two days ago
3919s	um the post of combat feel updates there
3922s	was there was a little bit of stuff
3923s	there there was a quick little clip
3925s	of uh the rogue using dancing strikes
3928s	and finishing off void penance and it
3929s	like exploding backwards but there's
3931s	there's other stuff in combat field that
3932s	we're doing too and some of it is
3935s	um like just just more effects when
3938s	things hit other things to make it feel
3940s	like things are hitting other things you
3941s	know um
3943s	adding that physicality to combat and
3946s	and having those reactions that are
3948s	um more in
3951s	universe appropriate
3953s	and so i wanna make really clear these
3954s	are two work in progress i'm gonna do
3956s	one right now with one later
3957s	well this is work in progress thing um
3960s	but it kind of shows a little bit of the
3963s	style of stuff that's happening and i
3965s	want to be clear this doesn't um have
3967s	big combat impacts in a lot of it's
3969s	visual
3971s	um
3972s	but there are there are a few little
3973s	things that can happen
3979s	so you can notice when you see my cursor
3981s	still i can't see my cursor it hides it
3982s	doesn't um but the skeleton is reacting
3986s	to
3987s	the hits it's taking
3988s	uh
3990s	and you can see new death animation as
3991s	well
3993s	so still a few things you need to be
3994s	added to this like little some more some
3996s	different particles coming off when it
3997s	gets hit um
3999s	some different hit effect stuff as well
4003s	yeah
4005s	a little change there
4007s	a little blow up you know
4009s	what's the style of thing we're doing
4010s	for basically everything
4014s	all right more questions
4020s	there's people asking for leaks and
4021s	teasers there we go
4024s	perfect timing can you say anything
4026s	about the future of end game in terms of
4027s	character progression further crafting
4029s	options maybe combining uniques for a
4031s	chance to add lp together really unlike
4034s	them now i've talked to that a few times
4035s	uh things that get things that sort as i
4038s	things of that sort as i am a maximizer
4040s	and running out of things to
4041s	realistically running out of things to
4043s	hunt my goodness
4045s	uh
4047s	as well uh a well-rolled scary helmet or
4050s	a healthy logan's hammer etcetera yeah
4052s	there's um
4054s	there's definitely more stuff we want to
4055s	add yes
4056s	um
4058s	i can't really give you any specifics of
4059s	what that would look like
4061s	um
4064s	but we are looking to add
4066s	a more interesting tale
4068s	to that
4070s	um
4071s	that that end game progression and
4074s	uh
4075s	finishing off a build just making a
4076s	little bit more interesting and uh
4078s	stretching out a little bit but uh not
4081s	just
4082s	i i feel i feel bad about saying that
4084s	stretching out a little bit because it's
4085s	not just like okay
4087s	drop cut the drop rates of everything in
4089s	half no it's not that because that that
4090s	does that but it's not an interesting
4092s	way
4092s	um
4094s	so changing what's available
4096s	and um
4099s	changing how you get that as well
4101s	it does that
4103s	and random name x has two hundred bits
4104s	thank you very much
4106s	as well
4109s	come on i didn't got the points the sub
4110s	started happening
4118s	right are there any plans to have you
4121s	supported races with mtx prizes in the
4123s	near or far future yeah um
4126s	we've already done a race once uh twice
4129s	actually it's a ton of fun definitely
4131s	want to do more um
4135s	the community was a lot smaller last
4137s	time we did one and um
4140s	organizing that's a little easier when
4141s	you have far fewer people involved
4144s	um but we did we did we did we put it
4146s	like in client and like
4148s	um it was so janky uh and we couldn't
4151s	really trust it at all so we had we we
4154s	said everyone had to stream their
4156s	attempts or their
4157s	the race in order for us to be able to
4158s	verify it um because it could have been
4161s	the stuff that was in client could have
4162s	been circumnavigated if we didn't have
4164s	the stream checkable stuff
4166s	um
4167s	really easily
4169s	uh anyways the um
4172s	i don't think anyone bothered to care or
4174s	look because it had to be streamed there
4175s	was no point anyways uh we had like a
4178s	timer that likes that we had a it like
4180s	unlocked the the race in game and like
4182s	it was a different game mode and
4184s	recorded to the ladder differently
4186s	um
4187s	there's a whole bunch of stuff that we
4188s	did for a race previously it was a ton
4190s	of fun
4193s	so yeah
4195s	marvel heroes did something like this
4196s	with weekly bi-weekly danger uh danger
4199s	room simulations pre-generated challenge
4200s	ones yes i've i've heard about this
4202s	actually i've never i've never really
4203s	played marvel heroes much like a tiny
4206s	little bit but not enough to know stuff
4208s	like this rewards were like exclusive
4209s	cosmetics like glowing eyes and stuff um
4211s	that you could flex in town with yeah
4214s	and and
4215s	um
4218s	i i think that stuff's awesome to do and
4220s	i think we'd be
4221s	um
4222s	missing out if we didn't do something
4224s	like that uh i don't know exactly how to
4226s	look and everything or when it'll happen
4227s	but
4228s	that's the sort of stuff where i'm like
4230s	we're not starved for ideas of things to
4232s	do
4233s	um
4235s	there's always cool stuff like that to
4236s	get done
4243s	will this come out on xbox x uh maybe
4245s	one day we have
4247s	uh
4248s	we it takes a lot to do that and we've
4251s	not even remotely begun that process
4253s	whatsoever um
4256s	the biggest thing we're still missing
4258s	before that can even be possible though
4259s	is full proper controller support um so
4262s	until that's a thing it's not happening
4264s	we are
4265s	having proper controller support for our
4267s	pc launch um
4270s	so you know like the main hurdles are
4274s	crumble away
4275s	it's built in an engine that can export
4276s	to xbox as well so like you know it's it
4279s	it's something that could happen one day
4281s	uh it's another platform for us to
4282s	support it's another platform for us to
4284s	like debug and
4286s	we launch we have to launch on an extra
4288s	platform and
4290s	you know if we're going to xbox like
4291s	everyone in the playstation as well are
4293s	we are we going to
4295s	switch is a little harder this is a lot
4297s	harder actually um
4299s	but there's there's
4300s	like it's not just one console it's my
4302s	point so if we decide to go to consoles
4304s	it's multiple platforms um
4307s	it's a lot of work
4308s	uh it's not possible could happen one
4310s	day we don't have any immediate plans
4311s	for it
4315s	i'll be surprised if it never happens
4319s	no idea when
4331s	all right here's the first one this
4332s	heavy 10
4334s	dahario 20 heavy 10.
4337s	my goodness
4338s	mad lads the ladia
4342s	this back on this more
4347s	love it
4350s	i'm sorry if i missed anyone i kind of
4352s	scrolled through that pretty hard
4355s	i'm basically caught up here day 153 i'm
4358s	asking for a concept art book when
4361s	[Laughter]
4363s	uh is it really been that long even
4364s	asked for that um
4367s	someday
4368s	be great
4371s	i know someone who uh works making books
4374s	like
4375s	like um laying out and uh designing and
4379s	printing custom books
4382s	he's like an editor
4388s	maybe i can get her to do it
4392s	see what her rates are
4397s	i think we've gotta we gotta focus on
4399s	like getting the game out first
4405s	i consider being a cool thing to go with
4406s	launch
4423s	it picks up the clicks as well every
4424s	time i click my mouse
4428s	does that come through for you guys
4432s	things that might be but i can hear my
4433s	mouse clicks through my headset coming
4435s	like microphone in the headset three
4439s	after the news dropout 09 and
4442s	multiplayer i noticed the road map that
4444s	was just pretty recently overhauled was
4445s	removed uh now is there a plan to share
4447s	a new roadmap similar uh i did not know
4449s	it got removed that's cool uh it makes
4451s	sense because there's not a lot of info
4452s	there um
4456s	like right now here's what the roadmap
4458s	looks like
4459s	oh nine's coming at some point
4462s	one point i was coming at some point
4463s	when we're ready
4465s	basically it um
4467s	i i think there's probably plans to go
4468s	with something a little bit more
4469s	detailed than that
4472s	um
4474s	we are really pushing hard for
4475s	multiplayer and release those are those
4477s	are basically everything we do is like
4479s	does it do we need it for multiplayer
4481s	all right do it do we need it for
4483s	release all right do it
4490s	the answer is no
4492s	don't do it
4498s	but i i i think that's a
4500s	i really liked having that as a resource
4502s	so people can see sort of like roughly
4504s	what's coming next sort of thing
4506s	um
4516s	i'm not sure we're ready to share
4518s	details of what's coming next
4520s	yet
4521s	like what's coming next multiplayer's
4522s	coming next
4531s	that was close
4538s	all right don't get cocky kid
4557s	give me that relic what is it oh that's
4560s	beer
4563s	acolytes breastplate of the turtle
4564s	[Music]
4566s	multiplayer when
4567s	when it's ready
4569s	uh how will multiple beta launch affect
4571s	third-party tool sites i thought an api
4575s	in discord and heard there was no eta on
4577s	one yet will they still be reliant on
4580s	the offline client to extract game data
4582s	all the game data that they extract is
4584s	still going to be this available in the
4586s	same way that's the same client there's
4587s	no different client
4588s	uh will updates be hitting both on and
4590s	off at the same time yes it's the same
4592s	client
4593s	[Music]
4595s	so nothing's gonna change
4598s	also new question trade when when it's
4600s	ready
4608s	did daryl just like dump all of that and
4610s	leave oh he's still here okay let's
4612s	don't say no he's not here anymore
4617s	where are we we're almost there oh wait
4619s	we don't we don't have to do the quest
4621s	deck the optional quest echoes anymore
4624s	i completely forgot we changed that in
4626s	uh
4627s	um
4631s	empowered
4634s	timelines you know what i also nothing
4636s	i've ever done on stream
4638s	i don't think i've ever actually fought
4641s	the shade of oribus on strain
4647s	maybe i have
4653s	let's pick a really easy one
4657s	frenzy and haste when hit there
4661s	resulting damage yeah it's not bad
4665s	can be slowing
4667s	show the armor
4673s	icdr okay that's fine
4679s	with diablo 4 coming in the next 12
4681s	months
4682s	we may
4686s	some playable form of diablo 4's coming
4688s	the next 12 months is what they said not
4689s	deal before it's going to be 12 months
4690s	it could be
4692s	um
4693s	unless something else has come out since
4695s	i
4696s	heard that on twitter but the big
4698s	announcement that happened uh was that
4700s	some playable form was coming in the
4702s	next 12 months and i just died
4707s	uh how does this affect you guys
4708s	decision making patch drops to keep up
4710s	the hype uh for uh for you versus
4713s	competitors i i think that uh it doesn't
4716s	really change much for us
4717s	really
4718s	um our goal is
4723s	i still have the stability if i do this
4725s	right
4728s	do i not get the stability of this
4736s	20 all rez
4754s	i don't want any of these do i
4757s	think movement's being damaged why
4761s	not uh does this affect your decision to
4763s	make patch drops keep hype up um how
4765s	does this affect your decision
4767s	it's
4768s	we've really just we've known for a long
4770s	time that we have to just get
4772s	multiplayer out as soon as we can
4774s	but it has to be really awesome if we
4776s	launch multiplayer too soon and it sucks
4778s	that's worse than being too late with it
4779s	with something awesome like we'd rather
4781s	be late with something awesome
4783s	than be early with something crap
4785s	um
4787s	ideally we'd like to be early with
4788s	something awesome so that's the goal um
4791s	and so that's what we're working towards
4792s	and that that the deal for announcement
4794s	hasn't changed anything really there
4795s	we're still
4796s	pushing exactly as hard as we were
4798s	before
4799s	um
4800s	you know we're not like redouble our
4802s	efforts or anything like that like we're
4803s	just still working hard
4805s	uh
4815s	microsoft gamix will said all the games
4816s	shown will come out the next 12 months
4818s	that include before i don't that's what
4819s	it said
4820s	i am willing to be proven wrong here but
4822s	i think what it said was
4824s	um it's coming in 2023 like the launch
4826s	is in 2023. that's what the trailer said
4829s	but then before it they said that all
4831s	the games shown here today will be
4833s	playable
4834s	or are are are playable in at least 12
4836s	months
4837s	and i think playable and launched are
4839s	two different terms and i think they
4840s	used them really carefully
4843s	um i could be wrong
4845s	very willing to say they're wrong
4848s	that i'm wrong sorry
4853s	the keys of orbis has been such a huge
4854s	quality of life
4856s	uh as someone who's currently on his
4858s	11th attempt for an empowered endurance
4860s	blessing rain of fire
4862s	i'm glad i'm glad that's working out
4864s	that was that's a very recent change to
4866s	the model i think a really good one
4868s	um
4871s	the tree outside is coming out
4873s	it's just helping customize the
4875s	endgame experience a little bit what
4877s	your goals are
4884s	oh
4885s	what is going on
4887s	what is going on
4892s	oh no
4897s	i was like i'm safe over here it's okay
4910s	my hearing my own voice when i screamed
4912s	oh no
4915s	that's that's why i'm laughing so much
4916s	it's really frustrating two
4923s	i think i have two left
4928s	all right he's tell us what to expect
4930s	from multiplayer release for example
4932s	five man groups play four
4934s	uh in group trading probably not the
4936s	initial version of it bonus map mods
4938s	while you're in a group etc um
4943s	the initial version will be very similar
4944s	to what you've got
4957s	i can feel it i push this just like a
4959s	little bit too hard there's a few too
4961s	many mods stacking up
4967s	are there any plans to add campaign
4968s	skips for solo characters i think there
4970s	should be because the current dungeons
4972s	aren't you're right they aren't i
4974s	suggest keys only be transferable from
4976s	solo to non-solo
4983s	i suggest keys only be transferable from
4986s	solo to non-solo if the character has
4989s	beaten the campaign
5005s	like you want to take your keys on your
5009s	solo character and put them into your
5012s	non-solo characters
5016s	that's not what i was expecting you to
5017s	ask for i don't think we do either of
5018s	them anyways but yeah uh
5020s	probably not maybe one day uh there's no
5022s	plans for the moment
5024s	um i don't think you have to complete uh
5027s	compete with anyone why can't last epoch
5029s	be third grade or pg and coexist with
5031s	people and d4 seems reasonable to me why
5033s	can't we be number one
5035s	um no
5037s	i think there's lots of room for lots of
5038s	great arpg's like there's
5042s	i don't know
5043s	i played more than one
5049s	do you play more than one
5056s	whatever's the newest thing
5059s	quite often has a lot of attention right
5062s	when it's brand new
5065s	and uh
5067s	releasing at the same time like if if
5069s	we're released on the same day as oh my
5072s	goodness i'm just getting
5073s	crushed
5075s	if we release on the same day as d4
5078s	um i think that would be a mistake
5082s	because i think that would then be
5083s	trying to compete with them
5086s	directly which is i think a mistake
5089s	like
5097s	millions and millions and millions of
5099s	people have played dl03
5105s	we do not have such a following
5113s	i i'm gonna need i need a little i don't
5115s	know why i got so hard all of a sudden
5117s	i took a mod or something in his mistake
5131s	i'm just getting my keester handed to me
5133s	here
5135s	all right have you ever played a game
5138s	called champions of norath yes but very
5141s	briefly i wouldn't
5143s	i played a little land once
5145s	uh
5147s	so like i was i was like someone's like
5150s	sit down on my computer and play this
5151s	game
5152s	um
5154s	so like
5155s	never had my own account for it
5157s	um
5159s	if you guys how does the comment in last
5160s	year compare that sorry about coming and
5162s	asking about another game that's totally
5164s	fine i was just because console is
5166s	possible in the future alas epoch is now
5168s	on my radar i mean
5169s	so just be clear uh
5172s	possibly in the future
5173s	like
5175s	it might be years
5178s	years before we see last year on console
5180s	i don't know
5181s	maybe it's sooner i don't i just i have
5183s	no idea what sort of timeline that'll be
5185s	um
5187s	at all if it happens
5189s	it's it's one of those things we were
5190s	like it's a long-term goal that someday
5192s	i hope we can do it
5193s	um
5195s	it's little there i also haven't played
5196s	much champions so i can't really compare
5198s	the combat too much um i bet there's
5200s	other people here who played a lot more
5202s	that can
5204s	um we do already have controller support
5206s	um
5208s	so it's probably um
5212s	like watching assuming the plays on
5213s	console or constantly controller version
5216s	you might be able to get a better idea
5219s	of how that plays right now
5221s	and how it's gonna work
5223s	my goodness me
5226s	oh come on
5233s	liberty
5235s	run
5236s	run
5246s	you guys got this right
5253s	no room at the end
5259s	all right guys over here let's get him
5262s	get him
5267s	good job
5269s	getting tons of uniques here
5277s	how are our resistances our poison in
5279s	the crocker bad but this is all fire
5281s	fire physical
5291s	we got there first try
5296s	how do you make them more common but
5298s	also make them transferable if you beat
5300s	the campaign
5307s	i i i i i don't understand why you'd
5310s	want to transfer them to the non-solar
5311s	characters when they already have access
5312s	to them from other non-solo characters
5314s	um
5319s	so like that really only affects the
5320s	first non-solid character you make
5322s	after you've made solo characters that
5324s	makes any sense
5326s	but i mean maybe
5329s	we don't really have any intention to be
5331s	able to transfer individual things from
5333s	solo characters if you want to transfer
5335s	a solo character you can transfer the
5337s	solo character
5338s	like the whole thing and that's already
5340s	in-game
5350s	did i catch up oh i got up
5354s	prize for catching up here we go
5360s	oh it's way outside
5362s	mike you didn't prepare this very well
5363s	at all did you
5365s	such
5368s	such unprofessionalism ugh
5371s	who taught you how to stream
5375s	oh
5376s	oh
5377s	just making mistakes left and right
5380s	i did it i did it
5381s	but boom
5383s	here we go
5384s	so this is a
5385s	little bit of a concept art slash
5388s	uh example sheet for a
5391s	set of enemies that are modular
5395s	um so like some
5397s	blueberries
5398s	uh some of these are um
5402s	like they'll be like
5403s	able to take this and take pieces and
5405s	switch them out so like a swarm of
5407s	enemies can be
5408s	uh
5409s	not quite so uniform and have a little
5412s	bit of distinctions but look similar
5414s	enough that you can tell like okay
5416s	they're they're the same they're part of
5418s	the same group they're all together
5419s	yadda yadda but they are not
5421s	um
5423s	all just identical
5425s	that makes any sense
5429s	yeah
5431s	teaser too
5432s	we're gonna try the boss
5438s	can i buff the stream to 1080p it's all
5439s	potato i should be at 1080. it's
5443s	actually should be a 1440 i think
5448s	my internet's great
5453s	well my computer might not be fantastic
5455s	my internet is
5460s	all right
5464s	let's go for it let's just oh i feel
5466s	like i should try and craft on something
5467s	do i have anything craft on
5469s	or improve upon really
5478s	um
5492s	that may be worthwhile
5498s	all right let's do some crafting
5500s	see we can make this
5503s	i do like minion damage a fair bit
5506s	just crank that up right away
5508s	we have 24. i might try and seal
5512s	this strength affix
5515s	uh i guess
5519s	would have been nice if it had
5521s	sealed a little higher but you know
5522s	whatever roll it right away sure
5524s	um
5532s	i don't know why i did strength i should
5533s	have i should have rolled into something
5534s	else and sealed that
5538s	so good at this don't worry
5542s	don't even worry about it
5545s	minion health
5547s	you focus a lot on our minions
5551s	could you level up something
5554s	get some more points in war cry get more
5556s	points and swipe
5561s	what do y'all think
5563s	should i slap on this
5573s	we could just go attunement because of
5575s	this that's what that's what our
5577s	our squirrels scale off of
5580s	two is really good
5592s	like waiting just a little bit to see if
5594s	someone's like no put this on you idiot
5596s	i was gonna say that okay
5597s	uh we're just gonna go for a two minute
5598s	just have some fun with it right
5609s	i just got a free fire res
5611s	and all the way
5612s	there we go
5615s	particularly rolled fires into something
5616s	else that's okay we're gonna switch this
5617s	out
5619s	the eleven endurance is quite a bit of a
5621s	loss but
5624s	our cold res does dip down too low now
5633s	we try and make boots with more cold res
5636s	which is always so i could get like take
5638s	some huborium boots
5641s	and try and craft those up with a good
5643s	heborian boots anywhere
5648s	yep there are
5654s	yep there are
5659s	those are gorgeous boots aren't they
5667s	really
5669s	the crit strike avoidance
5675s	use the move speed
5683s	let's try to use ones
5685s	which i have my heads by covering
5689s	let's try and seal this
5693s	i just wrecked it oh
5699s	oh my soul
5702s	yeah that's too bad
5706s	i mean they still may be better
5710s	lose the crit strike avoidance and a
5711s	little bit of move speed
5714s	and fire as we get more cold res
5719s	flat health
5727s	considering the boss we're about to face
5729s	i think that's probably better
5738s	but i'm not sure
5740s	let's go for it
5751s	what are you gonna play community
5752s	members build i can play community
5753s	members bill real soon i think that's
5755s	really cool um
5766s	i have come to the lands
5769s	i will reunite
5771s	the backstreet boys
5776s	and lance is all i need
5792s	is
5806s	yeah i will
5809s	you're scary boy
5818s	squeak through that gap
5835s	i know there's like a bunch of questions
5836s	and i should probably like trying to
5837s	answer one of them right now
5839s	but i kind of suck and i want to not die
5844s	so
5845s	sorry
5846s	[Laughter]
5853s	i'm back
5854s	come on back
5862s	oh
5869s	oh just keep fighting him you guys got
5871s	this
5873s	no keep fighting him i believe in you
5878s	you are nothing
5881s	i am nothing
5885s	that's on the wrong side of the screen
5886s	that's the problem
5887s	i i just the perspective is throwing me
5889s	off
5892s	that's this is no
5902s	no
5902s	no no no on the topic of controller
5905s	support i've tried doing was the
5906s	movement through which is really funny
5908s	chance of visualizing support uh not
5910s	anytime soon but maybe it's basically
5912s	the same thing as a controller support
5913s	you're right
5914s	uh okay i'll rephrase it uh they dropped
5916s	from early on in solo mode
5919s	oh you want them to drop early on solo
5920s	mode so you can go into the dungeons
5922s	before
5923s	in solo mode that's very unlikely to
5925s	happen but if you want to transfer your
5926s	solar character to be able to skip
5928s	through the campaign on your
5930s	first character on the non-solo league
5932s	the keys would only be transferred
5934s	past a certain level like 58.
5940s	i see what you're saying i suggest
5941s	that's
5942s	because people have suggested making
5944s	keys common early on the campaign on
5946s	solo mode uh only but that would lead to
5948s	people to make solo characters uh just
5951s	to go get the keys to be able to move on
5953s	to new characters i still think that
5954s	would be very efficient uh which would
5956s	lead to players to skip the campaign too
5958s	much my solution i i i understand what
5960s	you're the problem you're trying to fix
5961s	i guess i understand now um
5964s	the
5967s	uh
5968s	i i don't think that's actually the
5970s	problem though because you you you
5972s	wouldn't
5973s	it would be more efficient to just make
5975s	a regular character and just farm keys
5978s	than make a solo character and get the
5980s	keys earlier
5981s	like
5982s	it's just easier to make a a full
5984s	character and farm than that way
5987s	i i think and so i think that's what
5989s	happened like your goal was to farm keys
5991s	for
5992s	not solo the best way to just make a not
5994s	solo character and
5997s	farm keys
5998s	so i i don't think that's the problem to
6000s	solve
6001s	um
6004s	and um
6009s	because i understand that that's like a
6011s	problem that you could see presented
6013s	for
6015s	not having for for not giving solo
6018s	players keys early
6019s	um
6021s	but the problem is we just
6023s	uh
6024s	like
6028s	i i don't think solo players
6031s	i think the unfortunate fact with the
6032s	way that the keys are set up is the one
6034s	of the big downsides to the new solvers
6036s	don't get keys
6037s	to do
6038s	dungeons with
6040s	i think that's the big biggest problem
6042s	with them
6043s	um
6046s	and i don't know if there needs to be a
6048s	solution to that
6049s	that makes any sense
6052s	and that might be the distinction
6053s	between solo and solo cell found
6060s	uh regardless regarding the game's
6062s	difficulty curve leds felt pretty smooth
6064s	this has mostly been good but i had to
6066s	jump at difficulty to overcome t3
6067s	jewelry t4 upgrades felt more exciting i
6070s	have any ideas being floating around
6071s	regarding the way to introduce
6072s	difficulty jumps without being
6074s	frustrating upgrades hitting the break
6076s	point of can't beat that thing to can
6078s	feel more impactful to me that upgrades
6080s	would just help me clear things faster
6082s	yeah i think that's the
6083s	um
6085s	the distinction between having
6087s	a
6088s	uh what we're talking here having a
6090s	corruption that's a smooth number
6092s	where each each one is technically a
6094s	small jump but they don't feel like
6095s	jumps because they're so similar like
6096s	101 doesn't really feel that different
6099s	um
6100s	but with the
6102s	uh dungeons where it's like a a big jump
6104s	from t3 to t4 i think that's one of the
6106s	advantages of having the jumps there's
6107s	advantages of having a smooth curve as
6108s	well and so it's um difficult to
6112s	have that same like that's probably
6114s	because we have different systems
6114s	throughout the game so that there are
6116s	different fields of votes in different
6117s	ways um one of those jumps is supposed
6119s	to be from uh
6122s	uh not empowered to empowered on the
6124s	monolith um and that jump's probably not
6126s	big enough right now um
6130s	i think there's room for some other
6130s	spots for things like that but yeah
6133s	there's there's some jumps in the
6134s	campaign too there's a big jump that
6136s	happens when you get to
6137s	um
6139s	uh the desert
6140s	later on
6142s	uh and you're like
6145s	you get in here and you're just
6147s	like spikes pretty hard
6150s	um
6152s	the second time you go through there
6156s	uh
6157s	i believe that ssf has the same drop
6159s	rates as long as if it does i think i'd
6161s	prefer if it if more loot dropped for
6164s	your class on ssf my sentinel has enough
6166s	opposing quivers um i mean
6169s	that's a good point about how
6175s	so so there it is tricky
6179s	ah
6180s	i don't know
6182s	that that was tricky because of being
6183s	all the farms because it changed if the
6185s	drop rates change
6192s	maybe it's not a problem
6194s	uh i'm sorry i'm kind of just mumbling
6195s	to myself uh
6197s	i i hear what you're saying about having
6198s	drop rates
6202s	class specific drops for other classes
6204s	the one you're playing
6205s	are
6206s	really iffy on
6209s	um
6212s	uh
6213s	on on soul cell phone on the wrong class
6215s	character
6217s	oh my god i'm not going to beat this
6219s	boss right now i need to do something i
6220s	need to
6221s	uh level up some more
6224s	i'm 84.
6225s	uh i need to do something
6227s	i need some better gear somewhere
6233s	i have all these yeah
6237s	my goodness me
6248s	oh
6250s	just kicking my butt
6266s	so
6293s	this is part of the pain of a solo
6295s	character is finding gear for our
6296s	classes other than your own
6300s	but yeah if i i understand the problem
6311s	i know there's a pretty heavy influence
6313s	to drop well apart from uniques
6315s	that's that's the big thing is uniques
6317s	are
6318s	not affected as much by the class
6319s	specificity
6321s	rules
6324s	they're there but
6325s	they're not as heavily affected
6329s	especially boss drops but they're trying
6330s	not to class specific boss drops like
6332s	boss specific drops
6342s	you vote for one spoiler production mic
6344s	all right well i'm signing off now then
6354s	what am i gonna do here
6362s	honestly i think the crit avoidance
6364s	boots might have been better
6376s	these are more health
6382s	what is my woodens
6386s	61
6388s	95 oh
6406s	there's problems somewhere
6409s	i'm going back to the critical points
6410s	we're trying again let's go
6412s	lace him up
6416s	i'm sorry i'm not native so there may be
6418s	a language barrier that's okay i'll do
6419s	my best just want keys to be accessible
6421s	and solo i understand and
6424s	um
6431s	he's available in solo mode for leveling
6435s	i i don't know if that's
6438s	gonna be a thing anytime soon
6444s	maybe there's
6446s	i don't know
6449s	if there's like
6451s	ah i am like i just like oh here's an
6453s	idea no it's bad it don't work
6463s	floating around
6464s	um
6467s	it's just it's it's tricky because
6479s	it almost makes
6487s	it almost makes up so that
6488s	one thing that i'd really like to avoid
6490s	happening is there being this sentiment
6493s	floating around the community of make
6494s	your first character a solo character so
6496s	you have access to keys right away
6499s	and then convert your character to
6501s	normal
6502s	so you don't have to play through the
6503s	campaign properly even the first time
6505s	like that being a possibility and and
6508s	something that people get suggested to
6510s	by the community is is
6513s	not i i think i think i could be wrong
6516s	with this but i think that's not worth
6518s	having
6519s	keys be part of the solo leveling
6520s	process
6522s	or
6524s	not worth that being like he's doing you
6526s	know like
6528s	that's worse than having the keys not be
6529s	part of the living process i think
6534s	oh that's that big attack i gotta be
6535s	careful of
6539s	oh get out of that buddy
6549s	minions do your thing i believe in thee
6568s	if i say you already are can we be
6569s	friends
6579s	is intoxicating
6595s	quiver drop rate
6601s	let's go ring actually
6603s	[Music]
6606s	more rings we got two fingers
6612s	nailed it all right
6614s	so you get rewarded when i'm successful
6616s	here we go
6623s	i understand maybe trade will fix that
6624s	for solo characters
6626s	uh
6628s	like solo characters aren't uh like they
6630s	don't have trade
6632s	because they're solo
6638s	uh heavy gaming's alternative level
6640s	option leveling level options would be
6642s	nice models are more similar to a rogue
6644s	like when it's more replayable linear
6646s	story mode having a low level monologue
6648s	available for experienced players would
6649s	be really cool
6650s	that's something we've talked about too
6651s	and that's i'd say more of a possibility
6653s	but i i don't know yet
6657s	currently we don't have any plans for
6659s	you know those things uh key solution
6661s	tied to an achievement where player has
6663s	to play the campaign
6664s	um through properly wants to unlock the
6666s	achievement that the player can get the
6667s	key drops in solo kind of like how rome
6670s	uh likes to unlock
6673s	kind of like how rogue likes
6676s	roguelikes do unlocks in the game
6679s	this is like how the rogue likes to
6681s	unlock in our game i'm like
6683s	i don't even tell the rocket locks that
6684s	is how uh masochism unlocks though
6687s	interestingly enough
6692s	you're happy we're listening to feedback
6694s	yeah and i mean i i really like i know
6696s	i'm kind of
6697s	in the pew pew shoot down mode with this
6699s	but like it's not set in stone at all
6701s	and i hope
6703s	um
6704s	i hope we come up with a good solution
6705s	for everyone
6706s	that works really well because i i think
6709s	i think the ideal solution is having
6712s	uh
6715s	dungeons be possible for part of that
6717s	experienced solo player leveling process
6721s	um part part of the concern for me like
6726s	there's a lot of there's a lot of things
6728s	as well here and a lot of things that i
6729s	obviously don't even think of as well um
6732s	if you have any sort of like
6734s	race or early league thing
6737s	um
6738s	and like in solo you can get your first
6741s	character
6742s	like
6743s	like maybe it's a league flag like the
6745s	first character per league has to has to
6747s	go through normally then you can start
6749s	doing um you can start getting key drops
6751s	it's just like that see there's a race
6753s	going through and one person
6755s	and the speed at which you race suddenly
6757s	becomes very
6759s	heavily dependent on
6762s	uh key drops
6763s	like oh so-and-so got a key drop early
6765s	he's good he won the race
6769s	um
6770s	and this is this is part of like
6772s	really super i know this isn't like a
6775s	a speed running game necessarily so much
6777s	there are people to speed around but
6778s	like um what kills a lot of speed runs
6782s	is
6783s	high variance rng
6786s	where you're just like well i got a
6790s	bad roll on this so let's restart the
6791s	run do bad so sad
6794s	and and i think that turns a lot of
6795s	people off of uh
6798s	um
6799s	speedrunning certain games and then
6801s	sometimes it's like what fuels that top
6803s	.01 percent
6807s	and get like
6809s	turks just like i'm gonna i'm gonna roll
6811s	this ladder
6813s	uh
6814s	history of mike tyson punch out there's
6816s	an rng heavy game
6818s	my goodness
6819s	um matt turk was uh top dog for a long
6823s	time
6825s	anyways um
6827s	oh yeah thanks thanks heavy for gifting
6829s	our cat cut to a sub and you know
6831s	talking about this stuff
6833s	pretty snazzy
6837s	uh okay so i got one more i'm not i'm
6839s	not i'm uh i don't think i'm gonna hop
6840s	in another
6841s	um echo here
6843s	i might i'd do one more but
6846s	uh i do have something for you all a
6848s	lovely little treat
6851s	let's finish this off with very similar
6852s	to our first one
6855s	here is a little more footage of the
6858s	void views earth in combat um doing
6861s	stuff and
6862s	uh
6864s	stuff being whacked off them and
6866s	uh
6868s	yeah
6869s	a little clip
6871s	death animation
6875s	there you go
6877s	let that run a second again
6886s	as someone already asked for the last
6887s	specialization of the mage will be out
6889s	by 1.0 with the latest
6891s	um sorry to keep just pushing the same
6894s	answer on you over and over again but
6896s	that's all it's always going to be
6899s	let's go for one more model why not
6902s	start up blood frost and death
6910s	one more
6911s	one more
6914s	also
6916s	personal news
6917s	i'm going to play magic tonight oh so
6919s	excited
6921s	got a new evelyn the covetous deck
6923s	oh it's gonna be fun
6931s	[Music]
6939s	grix's vampire tribal
6942s	it's a weird one
6944s	don't have the new uh
6946s	guild leader for uh
6950s	that that's like the oh rinky memory
6952s	that's a nice pickup
6953s	uh that's like
6955s	when it when it enters uh pitch half
6957s	summer's library when it dies pitch up
6959s	someone's hand when it like connects
6961s	pitch half someone's poor state or i
6964s	don't want the
6964s	it's brutal
6966s	xander don't have him in the deck he's a
6968s	vampire but i'm like nah
6970s	maybe not
6974s	it seems a little brutal
6982s	you know what i'm going to do i'm going
6983s	to either
6985s	have a new build for next week cause
6987s	i've been having a ton of fun but i
6988s	played a favorites i kind of want to get
6989s	onto a new train
6990s	or
6991s	or and and regardless if i do any build
6993s	or not i'm going to make sure whatever
6994s	character i'm playing has access to
6996s	the dungeons and we're going to focus a
6998s	little heavier in dungeons next week i
7000s	think just playing them because i've
7001s	been having a ton of fun in the
7002s	mountains but we've done many dungeons
7003s	recently because this character i forgot
7005s	to get the waypoints for the dungeons so
7007s	we've uh
7008s	we've been kind of stuck without playing
7010s	them
7012s	that voice sounded really weird in the
7014s	headset
7016s	i think i have one left
7024s	i'm gonna use it right as i sign off
7032s	even though the number i gave myself was
7033s	just arbitrary that's what i felt like
7035s	is appropriate
7039s	all right one final question here to
7041s	round us out
7044s	oh uh thank you kane uh an uh brief
7047s	announcement uh i can answer this
7048s	question first uh when it comes to enemy
7050s	design i noticed that some have uh
7053s	things like a particular particularly
7055s	high resist there's some uh seems to be
7058s	a lot of design space for even enemies
7060s	with similar attack patterns feeling
7061s	different how much things like enemy
7063s	armor base quick chance etc design
7064s	spaces the team just hasn't explored yet
7066s	and how much of it is something actively
7068s	decided against
7070s	for example high armor enemies feelings
7071s	you're proceeding for uh hit based
7073s	builds uh it's it's tricky yes because
7076s	it's
7077s	it provides i give you a short version
7080s	of this answer i'm sorry it provides a
7082s	level of knowledge requirement of the
7084s	game to really play optimally that
7087s	is
7088s	in some cases good but without
7090s	explicitly telling people it's a little
7093s	it's a little difficult we don't like
7095s	for example um every time an enemy has a
7098s	special
7099s	uh property like high fire resistance it
7102s	says it on the card when you mouse over
7103s	them like when you get this car that
7104s	shows off the top there it says high
7106s	fire resistance even if it's like a fire
7107s	elemental it'll say high fire resist if
7109s	it has
7110s	fire resistance you know like um
7113s	nothing's implied
7114s	and
7116s	um
7117s	putting too many things up there stuff
7119s	can get lost and so sometimes it's more
7121s	interesting to have
7123s	um
7124s	like everything in the zone get these
7126s	these bonuses which is why they appear
7128s	over on the right usually um and we can
7130s	we can put more down here so you there's
7132s	less of a like
7134s	um
7135s	that thing has really high armor and
7136s	that thing has really high physical
7138s	resistance so i'm going to use a a dot
7141s	on that thing and a direct hit on that
7142s	thing and like it gets a little too
7144s	granular sometimes and you
7146s	um like we want to have interesting and
7148s	thoughtful combat but we don't want it
7150s	to be but we still want to flow and be
7153s	intuitive and feel really nice um so
7156s	having have and a lot of that has to do
7158s	with pacing and so we want to keep
7159s	things
7160s	um on the faster side of pace but not
7163s	frenetic
7164s	i think would be the best way to put it
7168s	anyways uh okay so uh quick announcement
7171s	before we finish here uh tomorrow not
7174s	tomorrow next week is july the 1st
7176s	uh which is uh canada day and i am
7179s	canadian so i'm going to be celebrating
7181s	that with my family uh and i will not be
7183s	here next friday so we're taking one
7185s	week off um
7187s	if you have any questions at all that
7189s	you'd like answered please feel free to
7190s	stop by our discord our forums are
7193s	reddit other places get funneled to me
7195s	too sometimes and other people on the
7197s	team um
7198s	there's almost always someone around to
7200s	answer something fairly quickly we'll be
7201s	happy to do so um
7204s	and we'll be back again
7206s	same time same place normal on the
7208s	eighth will be the next stream so we're
7210s	taking one week off um thank you all
7213s	you've been wonderful
7216s	i had a ton of fun i hope you did too
7220s	we'll see you in two weeks
7223s	um

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