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| 3s | good afternoon everybody welcome back to |
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| 6s | the last epoch devstream as always i am |
| 9s | your host mike |
| 11s | i'm glad to have you here |
| 13s | we're gonna hop right in |
| 14s | just bump right into the monolith here |
| 16s | i'm gonna try and i'm gonna try and |
| 17s | level up a little bit and uh see if we |
| 20s | can push this model as quick as we can |
| 22s | maybe do uh |
| 24s | maybe a few more |
| 26s | dungeons i know we were a little under |
| 27s | leveled for the next year of dungeons as |
| 29s | uh i was trying to do last stream |
| 32s | but we're here let's do this thing oh |
| 34s | two friends are these are nice |
| 37s | um |
| 40s | good ones too my goodness |
| 44s | am i gonna have to like go hard |
| 46s | a bit |
| 47s | i had i've been having this weird thing |
| 49s | going on with my headphones recently |
| 52s | i don't know what it is but all of a |
| 54s | sudden they were incredibly quiet |
| 56s | like incredibly quiet |
| 59s | uh so i had them like cranked all the |
| 61s | way up to a hundred |
| 62s | um everything was cranked to to full |
| 65s | just i had like downloaded extra |
| 67s | programs like get my volume turned up |
| 68s | louder |
| 70s | and i turned my computer on yesterday |
| 73s | and all of a sudden the volume is back |
| 74s | to normal and i kind of hurt my ears a |
| 76s | bit |
| 79s | but |
| 80s | and and i don't know why |
| 83s | but the g |
| 88s | and now the lights are off completely |
| 89s | and i don't know what's going on at all |
| 90s | but the there were lights on my headset |
| 92s | and the g turned blue and it started |
| 94s | working again all right whatever |
| 103s | so we're back and working again |
| 106s | hello everybody hello aaron glad to have |
| 108s | you here don't normally see you live for |
| 110s | the streams glad to have you with us |
| 118s | i don't know if you had |
| 119s | if you had enough material to do any |
| 121s | sort of depth chat last week it was |
| 123s | basically me just struggling |
| 125s | to uh to |
| 127s | breathe hello rhymed i am having a great |
| 131s | day |
| 133s | hope you're having a good day too |
| 151s | very happy with this build so many dots |
| 153s | take so many ailments stack up so |
| 155s | quickly on these enemies |
| 158s | feels real |
| 169s | nice if this is anyone's first time here |
| 172s | um i'm one of the developers for 11th |
| 174s | hour games working on last epoch and um |
| 178s | i'm happy to answer any questions you |
| 179s | have as you see other people in channel |
| 181s | already putting an ass last epoch game |
| 183s | tag on their questions they'll |
| 186s | get me to answer it much easier |
| 188s | um |
| 190s | also any and all |
| 193s | money we get through donations and bits |
| 194s | and subs and everything it all goes to |
| 196s | charity and for the last couple months |
| 198s | uh well last month of this month our |
| 200s | charity has been a |
| 202s | uh relief fund for ukrainian children |
| 206s | who are affected by |
| 208s | the war unfortunately |
| 212s | that's it that's all about me here and |
| 214s | we're matching up to ten thousand |
| 215s | donations for as long as we're doing |
| 217s | this |
| 221s | and we just hit heavy has uh |
| 224s | bits here with a nice little message |
| 226s | can't attend the stream today again |
| 228s | um but i like that you kept supporting |
| 230s | ukraine for april as well |
| 232s | yes |
| 233s | glad you're um |
| 235s | checking to say hi sorry you can't stay |
| 237s | hope you're having a good day thanks the |
| 238s | bits |
| 241s | yeah the only thing that updates live is |
| 243s | direct donations which there's a link |
| 244s | down below and um |
| 247s | uh in the downtime between streams i |
| 249s | have to take the subs and bits and all |
| 250s | that sort of stuff added on |
| 253s | that's what that number goes up while |
| 254s | we're offline |
| 260s | whoever designed cold spriggan with the |
| 262s | autocast is an awesome person |
| 265s | i will let them know |
| 269s | they don't get a chance to hang out and |
| 270s | stream much but i know they're they've |
| 272s | been working really hard to uh |
| 274s | get more unique items for the hotfix and |
| 276s | i'm sure they'd love to hear that |
| 284s | oh we got uh tahrir has a minute ago i |
| 288s | missed it i'm sorry about that let's get |
| 289s | to the sub 2 action rpg air in action |
| 292s | rpg |
| 294s | congrats aaron thank you very much to |
| 297s | harnell and |
| 298s | visiongls come up with reading party 20 |
| 300s | people welcome everyone vision stream |
| 301s | glad to have you with us |
| 303s | oh i'm |
| 304s | i'm so good at this i'm running away |
| 305s | from the objective |
| 308s | don't worry guys |
| 311s | i know what i'm doing |
| 313s | that's right |
| 314s | just just trying to kill some extra |
| 315s | things to get like an extra bonus |
| 317s | stability you know |
| 318s | you know |
| 324s | tetralogy hey nice to see you a couple |
| 326s | healthy announcements these past few |
| 328s | days yeah we had some cool fun stuff |
| 329s | yeah there's if anyone hasn't heard this |
| 331s | is a good time to shut up mention it |
| 333s | again a little bit but there's a um |
| 336s | a new program we're running on our |
| 339s | website |
| 341s | you know i could probably |
| 343s | uh |
| 348s | there's so many like things in my |
| 351s | chrome they're just like on that i just |
| 353s | wanna |
| 354s | have like a stealth chrome |
| 357s | i guess i could do an incognito browser |
| 359s | but |
| 360s | we'll just we'll just turn everything |
| 361s | off |
| 363s | so there's a uh community designed |
| 365s | unique event so we're gonna be designing |
| 366s | a unique item with the community |
| 371s | um and it's gonna involve a bunch of a |
| 372s | series of votes uh and we're gonna take |
| 374s | that information from how people are |
| 376s | voting and kind of massage an item |
| 378s | together with you guys as best we can uh |
| 380s | and here's here's the timeline for all |
| 382s | of it uh so the first first little bit's |
| 384s | kicked off if you are looking for in |
| 385s | here you don't see um |
| 387s | jewelry is |
| 389s | uh |
| 389s | [Music] |
| 391s | relic |
| 392s | slot as well that'll include relics |
| 395s | so yeah if you haven't voted already |
| 396s | come vote there's two of them i'm |
| 398s | surprised the votes are so different |
| 399s | just five five off that's |
| 401s | interesting |
| 403s | uh yeah we're gonna be making a unique |
| 404s | item with the community which i'm really |
| 406s | excited about it's i think it's going to |
| 407s | be fun i'm excited to see what everyone |
| 409s | comes up with there's already some |
| 410s | interesting ideas someone was mentioning |
| 412s | about uh wanting to design a bow for a |
| 414s | prime list um |
| 416s | and unfortunately we probably can't do |
| 418s | that for this just because it would |
| 419s | require so |
| 421s | many system changes |
| 423s | um |
| 428s | but i think if i had to guess long term |
| 432s | that's i'd say there's a good chance |
| 434s | that'll happen one day |
| 435s | i just don't think it'll be a launch a |
| 437s | launch option it might be who knows |
| 443s | we either would have to end up with only |
| 445s | a single |
| 447s | skill that was compatible on prime list |
| 449s | or it would require a lot of changes |
| 454s | and one of those is not very great and |
| 456s | one of those is very time consuming so |
| 458s | we'll have to see if we have the time |
| 459s | for |
| 463s | it happening |
| 470s | all right let's bring up some |
| 472s | questions here so i can start answering |
| 474s | things also people want to follow along |
| 475s | exclamation mark build |
| 477s | in chat will bring up um |
| 480s | link to build guide that i am |
| 483s | loosely following stumbling into we'll |
| 486s | say |
| 487s | so i got lucky and found this amazing |
| 490s | quiver that i'm gonna show off again |
| 498s | i only respond to mockery for leaks |
| 501s | yeah |
| 503s | didn't that's why i didn't even push you |
| 504s | for leaks well |
| 506s | yeah i didn't have any leaks last week i |
| 508s | was you know it was april fool's |
| 510s | i didn't um honestly i didn't think |
| 512s | anything that i said that was related to |
| 513s | the game as far as leaks would be taken |
| 515s | seriously enough to be worth putting in |
| 518s | the big disclaimers like this is real |
| 521s | this isn't real and people are like are |
| 522s | you serious i can't tell not happening |
| 526s | so you stuck with just fun stuff |
| 529s | and if people would message me to ask me |
| 530s | if i was okay after that stream yes uh |
| 533s | if you're wondering i'm totally fine |
| 536s | i've done that lots of times before |
| 542s | some of the hot sauce i brought out i |
| 543s | actually |
| 544s | had some more wings a big pack of wings |
| 547s | we cooked the rest of them a few nights |
| 548s | ago |
| 550s | and uh i i had too much hot sauce that |
| 552s | time the second time was was too much i |
| 555s | was |
| 556s | struggling |
| 560s | uh when is beau unique items coming to |
| 562s | other classes since kane confirmed |
| 564s | community and you cannot make bows for |
| 565s | the classes yeah okay so i guess i kind |
| 567s | of started talking about that already |
| 568s | it's it's one of those things where yeah |
| 570s | we'd love to do it and i don't think |
| 571s | anyone's debating that it's a good idea |
| 574s | or not i think that's pretty clear it's |
| 575s | a good idea |
| 576s | um |
| 578s | but yeah timing stuff to do so there's |
| 581s | lots of things we need to get in first |
| 583s | or make sure solid first um before we |
| 586s | can start working on things like that |
| 589s | if i had to guess i'd say |
| 591s | um |
| 595s | uh i won't put a timeline on it but i |
| 596s | would i would say post launch |
| 599s | would you might be my realistic guess or |
| 601s | something like that i i know that's not |
| 603s | what people really want to hear um |
| 609s | but uh |
| 610s | hey |
| 612s | who knows what'll happen but i i |
| 614s | wouldn't uh i wouldn't hold your breath |
| 615s | on that one unfortunately i'm sorry |
| 619s | oh it could happen don't don't say that |
| 624s | and it hasn't noticed yet i talked back |
| 626s | to my character |
| 627s | [Laughter] |
| 628s | thank you sagon three four five gifted |
| 631s | subs to the channel it's five yep |
| 634s | um |
| 635s | thank you very much congrats to anyone |
| 636s | who got one of those |
| 638s | any any anyone i recognize in there |
| 640s | lizard nice |
| 642s | quiet oh wow |
| 644s | there you go |
| 649s | they're gonna get here and be like dawg |
| 650s | i can't see what number it was now |
| 656s | but thank you very much |
| 660s | speaking of bonus stability was this |
| 662s | always uh |
| 664s | a solution in mind what were the |
| 665s | previous solutions for bonus stability |
| 667s | they were part of the brainstorming um i |
| 669s | i don't think this was all like always a |
| 671s | solution in mind it was definitely |
| 672s | something that we considered pretty |
| 674s | early on as an option |
| 676s | um |
| 681s | lots of times with systems like uh |
| 683s | monolith when there's when there's these |
| 685s | large large systems that have a lot of |
| 687s | different subsystems involved with them |
| 689s | so i would call the monolith as a system |
| 691s | as a whole |
| 692s | um |
| 693s | and then like |
| 695s | timelines as a thing in the monolith as |
| 697s | like a subsystem in the monolith and |
| 699s | then |
| 700s | um |
| 702s | stability building up inside that |
| 704s | timeline to |
| 706s | um |
| 707s | to like to access the boss as a |
| 709s | different subsystem you know there's |
| 710s | there's all these different things that |
| 712s | needs to work really well together as in |
| 714s | the model of ecosystem as a whole um |
| 719s | and sometimes we've like |
| 722s | released intentionally simplified |
| 723s | versions of things to see how that works |
| 726s | um to get feedback on specific things |
| 728s | and then expand on it down the road i |
| 730s | don't this |
| 731s | it's not like we were sitting there and |
| 732s | we were like okay here's a full system |
| 734s | let's pair back these things to get a |
| 735s | basic version and release that first |
| 737s | that's not really what was happening |
| 739s | but i think at some point when we're in |
| 741s | our initial design phase we do so we do |
| 743s | look at the system and go |
| 745s | um |
| 746s | like what's the core of the system what |
| 747s | do we need to really make this fun and |
| 749s | interesting and then once we once it has |
| 751s | gotten into people's hands we do look at |
| 752s | some more complex things um |
| 756s | to give it a little more depth |
| 767s | what am i doing |
| 768s | i'm just pumping points into this |
| 771s | because i love silver shred |
| 781s | i kind of want to pump all of this |
| 783s | actually you know what i should do |
| 786s | you know what i should do |
| 794s | look up the build i'm following |
| 804s | see i've already horribly deviated from |
| 805s | it |
| 808s | i'm taking a picture of it because |
| 810s | my computer's not a fan of uh having |
| 812s | that side up at the same time |
| 814s | so uh |
| 815s | let me close it |
| 819s | i'm missing here |
| 822s | nothing in here really oh |
| 825s | what's wrong rhymer come on just kidding |
| 829s | uh we do want to experience those let's |
| 831s | go down this way |
| 837s | what are the solutions do we have in |
| 838s | mind um |
| 842s | the goal so i honestly don't remember |
| 844s | the exact other things that were on the |
| 845s | table the goal of the bonus stability in |
| 848s | general uh |
| 851s | the way we're setting it up is mostly |
| 852s | there's there's a few different goals it |
| 854s | has |
| 855s | um one we did want to speed up |
| 858s | uh boss farming in general |
| 862s | just just getting getting into more boss |
| 865s | um |
| 869s | like yeah just just getting getting in |
| 871s | to fight more bosses quick like just |
| 873s | after just in general that was that's |
| 874s | one thing |
| 875s | um |
| 877s | so just giving more stability in general |
| 879s | makes that possible |
| 880s | real for that and we we looked at |
| 882s | different systems where |
| 884s | we just give more stability for anything |
| 886s | different like events so killing |
| 888s | specific types of enemies like killing |
| 890s | rare enemies to get more stability |
| 892s | things like that like all sorts of |
| 893s | different ways just give more stability |
| 897s | um we looked at just reducing the |
| 899s | stability costs of going into all these |
| 901s | things like just lots of ways just move |
| 903s | the numbers around so you're just going |
| 904s | faster |
| 905s | um but that wasn't the only goal really |
| 908s | so we we also wanted to |
| 910s | uh extend the time that you're spending |
| 911s | in each individual echo |
| 914s | um |
| 917s | now |
| 920s | simply just re like reducing the amount |
| 923s | of stability you need or increase the |
| 924s | investability you get doesn't reduce the |
| 927s | or doesn't increase the time you spend |
| 928s | in an echo um that should probably |
| 930s | reduce it because just going through it |
| 932s | being the |
| 934s | like the fastest thing possible means |
| 936s | you're you're gonna spend less time |
| 938s | because you're just gonna try and get |
| 939s | through them faster and faster each time |
| 943s | um |
| 947s | so so in it with with the second goal of |
| 950s | also increasing the time you're spending |
| 951s | in each echo but decreasing the time |
| 953s | between boss fights |
| 955s | um |
| 956s | there has to be something that you're |
| 957s | incentivized in a positive way but not |
| 960s | punished in a negative way |
| 963s | uh |
| 964s | to spend more time in the echo to get |
| 966s | out of to get something out of that um i |
| 968s | know i've talked to this a few times |
| 970s | about how the like there's a similarity |
| 971s | between path of exiles maps and um |
| 975s | epochs monolith echoes the big |
| 978s | difference being that the echoes are |
| 979s | free to enter there's no |
| 981s | lost currency by entering an echo but |
| 984s | there is lost currency the map itself by |
| 986s | entering a map |
| 989s | um and so there's so that restriction on |
| 991s | its own |
| 993s | like because the map itself holds value |
| 995s | and you're using something that has |
| 996s | value to go into the map you want to get |
| 998s | as much value out of that map as you can |
| 1000s | so you're already just naturally |
| 1002s | incentivized |
| 1004s | to do as much as possible in there and |
| 1006s | spend as much time in there and kill as |
| 1007s | many things as you can |
| 1011s | um |
| 1018s | so yeah that's one of the reasons for |
| 1019s | the reasons why killing things killing |
| 1022s | more things was part of that now like i |
| 1025s | know there's there's we're still |
| 1027s | looking at exactly the best things to do |
| 1029s | with this and it's all evolving it's all |
| 1030s | work in progress i don't think that's |
| 1032s | really a new concept from from us |
| 1036s | it's getting hot in here |
| 1040s | clothes are staying on though |
| 1047s | what's my favorite part of developing |
| 1048s | last epoch oh great question um the my |
| 1052s | favorite thing to work on is skills new |
| 1054s | skills updating old skills |
| 1056s | um designing skills in general that's my |
| 1058s | favorite thing to work on |
| 1062s | um but my favorite part of it like as a |
| 1065s | whole i guess |
| 1068s | i was just working on something you love |
| 1070s | creating something having that like |
| 1073s | look what we made |
| 1076s | type type thing |
| 1078s | not happening it's really cool that's my |
| 1081s | favorite part |
| 1086s | just being able to point it a bit me |
| 1087s | like |
| 1088s | we made this |
| 1090s | pretty pretty incredible |
| 1100s | already surpassed my initial |
| 1101s | expectations |
| 1104s | i mean obviously you always hope that |
| 1105s | something's going to be |
| 1106s | bigger and |
| 1107s | cooler and more fun than |
| 1110s | than anything but uh |
| 1112s | you try and temper expectations |
| 1134s | all right next question hey mike quick |
| 1136s | question |
| 1137s | it would be helpful to have a respect |
| 1139s | passive vendor in the new champions gate |
| 1141s | keep the great work hope the hot sauce |
| 1143s | should you all he had did |
| 1144s | um |
| 1147s | i used the honey so the first sauce i |
| 1148s | tried last week i used like this really |
| 1150s | heavy honey one um made a great teriyaki |
| 1153s | sauce with it a couple nights ago |
| 1159s | the wife the wife tried all the sauces |
| 1160s | and she was like there are nowhere |
| 1162s | they're way hotter than you were letting |
| 1164s | on on stream i'm like i just think i |
| 1166s | have a problem |
| 1180s | not happening |
| 1199s | here we go |
| 1202s | there we go go through the portal you |
| 1204s | can do it |
| 1206s | actually did a hot sauce stream yeah i |
| 1208s | did |
| 1209s | that's awesome i have to go back and |
| 1210s | watch those on vacation i missed it yes |
| 1212s | so if anyone's here that missed it uh |
| 1214s | uh wix sent the hot sauces that were |
| 1218s | on uh on our forum a few days ago or |
| 1221s | last week we uh he actually made them |
| 1224s | and sent them out to me and shipped them |
| 1226s | to me they arrived an hour before stream |
| 1229s | um |
| 1230s | i i had a bunch of wings that i made up |
| 1234s | i just baked in the oven a little bit |
| 1237s | salt and pepper |
| 1238s | uh |
| 1240s | and then uh yeah we tried wings on |
| 1241s | stream i also brought some hot sauces |
| 1243s | that i made |
| 1244s | from the summer before |
| 1249s | and i i i struggled it's a lot of heavy |
| 1252s | breathing |
| 1264s | uh would we get a loremaster denture in |
| 1267s | the future i would love to ask |
| 1268s | hard-hitting questions like uh what's |
| 1270s | the canon campaign lore for monolith |
| 1272s | since the model left side is past uh is |
| 1276s | the passive current campaign and right |
| 1278s | side is the future so curious what we ca |
| 1280s | uh what the canon timelines are |
| 1283s | yeah i'm real like that's that's |
| 1284s | definitely a weak point in my my |
| 1287s | knowledge about about stuff just |
| 1291s | um |
| 1292s | really really strict canon details i'm |
| 1294s | real bad at it |
| 1295s | um |
| 1298s | and |
| 1299s | yeah i i i definitely think that's |
| 1301s | something that i'd like to like to have |
| 1303s | happen |
| 1307s | whoever's listening someone someone |
| 1308s | called the loremaster next week let's do |
| 1310s | it |
| 1315s | i'll ask him see if he's interested i |
| 1316s | think i think i did previously i think |
| 1318s | he was |
| 1319s | i feel like we started to do that and |
| 1321s | something changed |
| 1333s | or i just forgot because i'm bad |
| 1336s | uh all right where are we here how do |
| 1338s | you imagine a warlock someone like ford |
| 1340s | joe with one summon and does spell |
| 1342s | damage i can't really talk too much |
| 1344s | about the extra classes that are missing |
| 1346s | um |
| 1350s | current plan is to have some pretty |
| 1351s | unique |
| 1352s | mechanics that go along with warlock |
| 1354s | um |
| 1363s | we actually |
| 1368s | uh yeah okay here's something |
| 1370s | uh |
| 1371s | some of the technology we developed for |
| 1372s | one of the |
| 1375s | um |
| 1376s | one of the dungeons was actually |
| 1378s | something we were developing initially |
| 1379s | for a warlock ability |
| 1393s | not happening |
| 1404s | it was a wall i didn't see the wall |
| 1417s | oh i dinged and everything leveled up oh |
| 1420s | my goodness it's overwhelming |
| 1424s | i didn't level up just my skills did |
| 1435s | oh it's a spicy one |
| 1447s | all right |
| 1449s | here we go |
| 1450s | actually trigger the |
| 1452s | fight |
| 1456s | uh why doesn't the uh marksman rate of |
| 1459s | arrows proc |
| 1461s | either the hail of arrows skill or at |
| 1463s | least use hillary's skill tree that |
| 1464s | feels a bit of a mis missed opportunity |
| 1466s | yeah so we |
| 1470s | we considered that actually |
| 1472s | um it was too strong basically |
| 1475s | um we still wanted to have that type of |
| 1477s | effect without forcing people to use the |
| 1480s | skill |
| 1481s | it's kind of what it is they do go well |
| 1482s | together and it feels a little |
| 1484s | disjointed when you're playing them both |
| 1485s | simultaneously |
| 1486s | um |
| 1488s | but it's a really iconic effect and |
| 1489s | style in |
| 1491s | uh just games in general like that have |
| 1493s | any sort of |
| 1494s | thing like this um |
| 1497s | and so we really wanted to make sure |
| 1498s | that effect was available to people who |
| 1500s | weren't using the skill is more is more |
| 1502s | the goal was there |
| 1515s | but yeah where it was actually |
| 1516s | activating the skill properly |
| 1519s | it uh |
| 1521s | it was either too strong or didn't feel |
| 1522s | great |
| 1523s | we got another another gifted sub here |
| 1526s | oh |
| 1539s | himself there you go |
| 1541s | don't forget yourself |
| 1546s | glad to have you with us |
| 1552s | okay every time i just want to say like |
| 1553s | stay wild listen but like not you know |
| 1560s | something off about that |
| 1568s | ice beetle |
| 1571s | doing work |
| 1572s | yeah freeze everything that's my beetle |
| 1588s | you shall be missed |
| 1590s | oh |
| 1593s | i will enact an |
| 1595s | a ritual |
| 1597s | for your death |
| 1611s | i stand further away |
| 1614s | instead of just eating the damage |
| 1618s | but it's so tasty |
| 1625s | not happening |
| 1627s | but |
| 1628s | but i wanna |
| 1640s | oh |
| 1641s | oh yeah sabretooth model |
| 1647s | all right will we be seeing respect all |
| 1649s | passes button fingers hurt from all the |
| 1651s | clicking |
| 1653s | that's uh we're still we're still |
| 1655s | figuring out exactly how we want that to |
| 1657s | be structured |
| 1659s | um |
| 1661s | we we know it's not the way we want it |
| 1663s | to be right now we don't know how we |
| 1664s | want it to be yet we know this isn't it |
| 1669s | so maybe hope so |
| 1679s | i think it'll likely be more of a |
| 1681s | instead of respect all |
| 1683s | um |
| 1684s | just optimizing the way it is now for |
| 1686s | less clicking in general |
| 1689s | and pay at the end type thing |
| 1696s | might be a respectable it's |
| 1698s | it's definitely too much clicking right |
| 1700s | now |
| 1701s | say that much |
| 1712s | have you considered adding the tier |
| 1714s | difficulty system to the empowered |
| 1716s | monoliths like unlocking a new tier |
| 1717s | every hundred corruption |
| 1720s | four tiers last one goes forever uh like |
| 1723s | current one i feel like it would be good |
| 1725s | um |
| 1726s | good for the feeling of progress and |
| 1728s | balance modifiers related to corruption |
| 1730s | so yeah having like break points that |
| 1732s | are more clearly delineated um because |
| 1734s | there kind of are break points first for |
| 1736s | different systems already |
| 1739s | like for example and |
| 1742s | i don't know the details of how much |
| 1743s | this has been figured out but |
| 1744s | the the backlight on my keyboard is not |
| 1746s | turning on |
| 1760s | my device is currently being controlled |
| 1762s | by last epoch.exe all right |
| 1769s | who do i have to blame about that sadly |
| 1771s | myself |
| 1773s | um |
| 1774s | [Music] |
| 1777s | i'm just doing that |
| 1781s | is there |
| 1784s | what's what's going on here |
| 1786s | blue filter |
| 1794s | yeah |
| 1796s | turn my keyboard back on |
| 1803s | um yeah we have sorry what was i saying |
| 1806s | there's there is already uh sorry listen |
| 1808s | i got distracted there is support for |
| 1813s | support's the wrong word |
| 1816s | the corruption tears with with the |
| 1818s | monolith |
| 1820s | so there's certain um |
| 1825s | there's certain |
| 1826s | rewards boss boss rewards boss item |
| 1829s | rewards that will only start dropping at |
| 1831s | a certain tier |
| 1832s | um so we kind of already do that type of |
| 1835s | thing |
| 1835s | uh it's just there's no there's no jump |
| 1838s | the big thing about the |
| 1840s | um |
| 1841s | the the tiers for the dungeons in the |
| 1844s | arena now is that they're they're all |
| 1847s | like level tiers they're all structured |
| 1849s | by level instead of corruption now it |
| 1851s | wouldn't be too hard to extend that um |
| 1855s | but i think because |
| 1857s | um corruption can be a much larger |
| 1860s | number there becomes less distinction |
| 1862s | between |
| 1863s | like there's a hundred tiers of |
| 1866s | um level |
| 1868s | in a sense i guess and then there's um |
| 1872s | like say five tiers |
| 1875s | or four tiers or whatever of like a |
| 1877s | dungeon |
| 1878s | so there's |
| 1879s | on average 25 |
| 1881s | level tiers per dungeon tier you know |
| 1883s | that makes any sense |
| 1887s | um |
| 1888s | but when corruption can get |
| 1890s | has no top really maybe like you look at |
| 1892s | it as |
| 1893s | a thousand is sort of the highest |
| 1895s | reasonable amount i know people go |
| 1897s | higher than that |
| 1900s | um but even if you have only four that's |
| 1902s | still |
| 1904s | 250 per tier right it's a much bigger |
| 1906s | range i know you go up the tubes faster |
| 1908s | you move up around a lot quicker too |
| 1911s | um |
| 1915s | but that's sort of the sort of |
| 1916s | relationship between a |
| 1919s | uh like a small number of tiers and a |
| 1921s | large number of tiers having that ratio |
| 1923s | be tighter is usually easier to |
| 1926s | relate to |
| 1933s | i'm also not sure what would happen to |
| 1934s | those higher tiers |
| 1936s | we kind of like also kind of have the |
| 1938s | same thing with just regular and |
| 1939s | empowered |
| 1940s | um |
| 1946s | so i think we'd have to take out one of |
| 1948s | the other systems to make it really work |
| 1950s | so i think we'd have to take out regular |
| 1952s | empowered or we'd have to take out |
| 1955s | um corruption basically |
| 1968s | easy too easy |
| 1976s | not happening |
| 1978s | okay |
| 1981s | that would be a good time to smoke bomb |
| 1992s | oh ascendants oh we could like send some |
| 1994s | rooms maybe get some uniques we want |
| 2001s | let's roll a bunch of them |
| 2007s | that'll be fun |
| 2015s | uh will we get monolith pinnacle boss in |
| 2018s | the future like an uber shade something |
| 2020s | like with the model the system that's |
| 2021s | designed to challenge people within max |
| 2023s | builds that we can farm and learn for |
| 2025s | cool rewards i love dungeon t4 but they |
| 2028s | don't feel like a truly iconic pinnacle |
| 2029s | of their content yes i i would i would |
| 2032s | agree that we don't have oh this is what |
| 2034s | you're saying but i don't think that we |
| 2035s | have currently a |
| 2037s | um like an uber elder or shaper or you |
| 2040s | know like like |
| 2041s | things like that we don't have a chaos |
| 2043s | tristrum event we don't have uh like a |
| 2047s | singular like this is the |
| 2050s | actual like a q lex |
| 2053s | shout out to anyone who got that |
| 2054s | reference um like optional extra boss |
| 2058s | uh that that's that's really difficult |
| 2061s | and this is only for |
| 2064s | meant as a challenge content system |
| 2071s | um but i i think in order to call the |
| 2072s | game 1.0 release |
| 2075s | i would definitely heavily argue that we |
| 2077s | we need one i don't think i |
| 2079s | don't think it'll be a hard point to |
| 2080s | sell you know |
| 2098s | hurt |
| 2102s | yeah the the dungeon bosses are not |
| 2104s | designed to be the |
| 2106s | like |
| 2108s | um |
| 2110s | the tech like the final test that makes |
| 2112s | any sense i know that um some of them |
| 2114s | kind of are right now |
| 2121s | what's your view on players having |
| 2122s | problems with boss mechanics and asking |
| 2124s | for nerfs |
| 2125s | um |
| 2131s | i i think context is everything |
| 2134s | um there's there's sort of two |
| 2137s | two things |
| 2139s | that that need to come together to make |
| 2141s | a um a boss encounter fun |
| 2144s | and challenging |
| 2145s | and um |
| 2146s | like |
| 2147s | i guess i guess how you there's two |
| 2149s | things there's two things that really |
| 2150s | come together for the player to overcome |
| 2152s | a boss encounter or work on any |
| 2153s | challenge really and that's |
| 2154s | um especially in a game |
| 2157s | that has rpg elements |
| 2159s | uh there's there's two there's how well |
| 2161s | your character is the character you |
| 2163s | created is like the build the things |
| 2165s | that have gone into like um |
| 2167s | like which skills did you pick which um |
| 2170s | nodes did you put points into like how |
| 2172s | did you how did you organize that all |
| 2173s | that sort of stuff |
| 2176s | um |
| 2178s | i don't know points into here bleed |
| 2181s | chance cool good job mike um |
| 2184s | so so how did how did you how did you |
| 2186s | build your character is it did you pick |
| 2187s | a bunch of bose skills and you've got |
| 2189s | swords equipped |
| 2190s | um you know like did did you go really |
| 2193s | um |
| 2194s | [Music] |
| 2196s | really bad like you can intentionally |
| 2198s | make a bad build right |
| 2204s | so i i think that there's that's one |
| 2207s | really key part |
| 2208s | and then there's um just player skills |
| 2211s | so learning |
| 2213s | learning how the boss fight goes |
| 2214s | learning the mechanics all those things |
| 2218s | i think there's a really interesting |
| 2219s | distinction based on primarily genre i |
| 2223s | think between games that are pretty |
| 2224s | similar but have these same two key uh |
| 2228s | key |
| 2229s | key limiters and i'm actually talking |
| 2230s | about a really specific game here uh |
| 2233s | alongside us |
| 2234s | which is |
| 2235s | it's it's uh genre adjacent i think |
| 2239s | uh that can that that can have very |
| 2242s | different |
| 2244s | um |
| 2246s | ratios of these two things so and and |
| 2249s | there's i'm sure there's examples that |
| 2250s | go the other way too |
| 2252s | and probably probably i put dialo three |
| 2254s | in the other the other direction so dm3 |
| 2257s | has |
| 2258s | a lot of boss fights |
| 2260s | especially in rifts |
| 2262s | where the mechanics don't really matter |
| 2264s | that much and most of what the of what |
| 2266s | those boss fights are is they're a |
| 2268s | gear check they're their dps check |
| 2270s | they're |
| 2270s | they're a health check like they're |
| 2272s | they're much less about |
| 2274s | um |
| 2275s | how well can you do these mechanics some |
| 2277s | of them do have some interesting |
| 2279s | mechanics involved so i don't want to |
| 2281s | sound like i'm disparaging to be able to |
| 2282s | hear um but a lot of it is just is my |
| 2286s | gear good enough to get through this |
| 2287s | fight |
| 2290s | and yeah you like you have to execute |
| 2291s | your belt and everything like that but |
| 2292s | there's it's less about interaction with |
| 2293s | the boss specifically it's just about |
| 2296s | you |
| 2298s | um |
| 2302s | and that might be completely wrong at |
| 2303s | certain levels of play that are higher |
| 2305s | than i ever got to um |
| 2308s | but i think it's probably pretty |
| 2308s | accurate and then the the other end of |
| 2310s | the spectrum i would say is something |
| 2311s | more along the lines of elden ring |
| 2314s | which is a new game that's come out |
| 2316s | recently if anyone doesn't know it is |
| 2317s | the latest game from from software uh no |
| 2321s | i don't have a setter that's the name of |
| 2322s | the studio it's from software and uh |
| 2327s | there's a lot less |
| 2329s | uh emphasis on gear it's it's really |
| 2332s | heavy emphasis on boss mechanics how |
| 2334s | well do you know the boss if you're good |
| 2336s | enough can you beat this boss naked with |
| 2338s | a dagger you know um on a level one |
| 2341s | character probably i'm sure there's |
| 2343s | people out there that do it |
| 2345s | crazy people that are unbelievably good |
| 2347s | at the game but yes i'm sure there's |
| 2349s | people that can do it that's a lot |
| 2351s | harder to do in |
| 2353s | um like |
| 2354s | let's go back to the spectrum diablo 3 |
| 2356s | you're up against the like |
| 2358s | greater rift 200 or whatever it is right |
| 2361s | now and um |
| 2365s | you've got a level one character there's |
| 2367s | just no way you can do it it doesn't |
| 2368s | matter how good you are at the game it's |
| 2370s | not happening |
| 2372s | as my as my character |
| 2375s | would so eloquently say |
| 2377s | um |
| 2380s | i i think we're somewhere in the middle |
| 2382s | there for sure um so sometimes i see i |
| 2385s | do see these forum posts pop up |
| 2386s | sometimes or red discussions pop up |
| 2388s | about how a boss is just too difficult |
| 2389s | and needs to be mechanically changed to |
| 2392s | be easier um or just |
| 2394s | sometimes it's okay it's too too much |
| 2397s | damage output or too much health or |
| 2399s | something like that and and these are |
| 2401s | all different |
| 2403s | dials we have that we can turn because |
| 2404s | because we can do little things like |
| 2406s | just um |
| 2407s | increasing the cast time on an ability |
| 2409s | it doesn't really change |
| 2411s | too much |
| 2412s | like how much damage you're taking or |
| 2414s | something like that or maybe it's not |
| 2415s | the cast sign but it's like the the time |
| 2417s | between like a boss throws out an aoe |
| 2419s | and there's like an aoe marker on the |
| 2420s | ground that's like get out of this |
| 2421s | radius get out of this radius it's gonna |
| 2423s | hit it's going to hit it's going to hit |
| 2424s | and then it hits and if you're still |
| 2426s | standing you die |
| 2428s | and just increasing that time doesn't |
| 2430s | actually change the total amount of |
| 2431s | damage the boss does |
| 2433s | especially if you can do other attacks |
| 2434s | while it's charging um but it does |
| 2437s | make the fight easier to do from a |
| 2439s | mechanical standpoint um so that there |
| 2441s | are ways we can and we can just turn up |
| 2443s | a boss's health and that makes it harder |
| 2445s | from a um |
| 2447s | just a stat standpoint |
| 2448s | i should actually want names of both of |
| 2450s | these so as i'm talking about this um |
| 2453s | i think a lot of the time |
| 2457s | there's there's room for people to |
| 2459s | improve their characters room for people |
| 2460s | to learn the boss mechanics better um |
| 2465s | and i don't think too many bosses are |
| 2467s | are actually really overpowered in their |
| 2469s | game right now i wouldn't say i could be |
| 2471s | wrong with that um it's it's it's a |
| 2473s | really difficult thing for someone who |
| 2475s | plays the game a lot to evaluate |
| 2476s | especially for people who are newer with |
| 2478s | the game because they are they're fights |
| 2480s | that you learn a lot |
| 2482s | like |
| 2483s | um like some games that played forever |
| 2486s | that you just know off the top of your |
| 2488s | head what to do |
| 2489s | like |
| 2490s | if i walk into mephisto's chamber i will |
| 2494s | i can probably do a blind you know with |
| 2496s | the number of times you've done it's |
| 2497s | just teleport |
| 2499s | over the bridge teleport back stand in |
| 2501s | the sweet spot and you know cast me |
| 2503s | years till they die |
| 2505s | and and it doesn't |
| 2507s | if you don't know that |
| 2509s | if you haven't done it a million times |
| 2512s | you you may need a much more powerful |
| 2514s | character to do it |
| 2516s | really sure what i'm getting at here i |
| 2518s | think i think the answer is |
| 2519s | um we definitely listen to feedback and |
| 2522s | it's too hard it's too easy it's really |
| 2524s | difficult feedback to |
| 2526s | um wait properly and decide what's the |
| 2529s | right action to take afterwards |
| 2532s | but we do our best with it |
| 2545s | rambly answers doodly doo |
| 2557s | have any bugs become features in last |
| 2559s | epoch something unintentional |
| 2561s | but just kind of worked out oh i'm sure |
| 2564s | that that's happened yes |
| 2566s | do i have a good example of my head no |
| 2569s | i i almost guarantee that there's been |
| 2573s | i like oh i can get i knew this has |
| 2575s | happened i don't have a good example i'm |
| 2577s | sorry where i've been working on a skill |
| 2580s | and |
| 2580s | like |
| 2582s | there'll be some math where it's like |
| 2583s | okay |
| 2584s | it has to rotate at this rate |
| 2587s | in order to do this thing |
| 2588s | but i'll have hit negative instead of |
| 2590s | positive it'll rotate the other way or |
| 2592s | um it'll also have a translation so |
| 2594s | it'll move at the same time and i'll be |
| 2596s | like that was a really cool motion |
| 2598s | and we'll just um |
| 2602s | happen we'll go with it we'll use it for |
| 2604s | something sometimes we'll be on that |
| 2605s | skill it would be like a new node or a |
| 2606s | new skill will come out of it was |
| 2607s | something |
| 2608s | um |
| 2610s | we were doing |
| 2612s | i don't ever use this on anything but i |
| 2614s | know an example of something that we |
| 2615s | that this happened actually um |
| 2618s | ice barrage homes and on target so like |
| 2620s | you shoot a bunch of the ice brushes and |
| 2622s | they they kind of curve to hit the |
| 2624s | target so that it's easier to aim a |
| 2625s | little bit |
| 2627s | it's real tough to aim otherwise and i |
| 2630s | remember when we were doing that i had |
| 2632s | accidentally set it to repel |
| 2635s | from enemies instead of um |
| 2638s | home towards them |
| 2640s | and |
| 2642s | the way that the dummies were the |
| 2643s | pattern the dummies were set up in and |
| 2645s | the angle i was shooting at |
| 2647s | the um |
| 2650s | the projectile started like |
| 2653s | moving in in a constant pattern like |
| 2656s | through the inside of all these things |
| 2658s | it was trying to avoid and it was just |
| 2659s | going back and forth of constantly |
| 2661s | avoiding everything around it |
| 2663s | um and wasn't hitting anything it was |
| 2665s | really cool |
| 2666s | i feel like we used that for something |
| 2668s | or we had plans for it or something |
| 2672s | oops that's what happens when your hand |
| 2674s | is one space over on the keyboard |
| 2685s | i kind of want like you know those like |
| 2687s | little |
| 2687s | um |
| 2689s | pieces of like those little nubs that |
| 2690s | are on on the f and the j key yes i know |
| 2693s | which keys they are |
| 2695s | um |
| 2697s | they uh |
| 2699s | i want one of those in like the q keys |
| 2700s | so i can just like |
| 2702s | always get my |
| 2704s | thinking to the right spot |
| 2719s | you do some serious damage |
| 2722s | and i'm using my free dodges to take |
| 2725s | none of it |
| 2731s | um |
| 2733s | many people believe with the launch of |
| 2734s | multiplayer we will see improved |
| 2736s | integrity for some competitive aspects |
| 2738s | of last epoch absolutely uh i wonder |
| 2741s | will this be something that is delivered |
| 2743s | on release or do you all expect to roll |
| 2746s | out some of the changes over time |
| 2748s | um not as multiplayer minimum viable |
| 2750s | products so um |
| 2754s | the main reason why the like we |
| 2759s | main reason why we haven't |
| 2760s | made the ladders reliable and secure and |
| 2764s | there's never a cheater on the ladder |
| 2766s | ever |
| 2766s | um |
| 2769s | it is because we don't have multiplayer |
| 2771s | yet |
| 2772s | like it's it's just not possible to |
| 2775s | trust anything that the that any client |
| 2779s | uh program running on someone else's |
| 2781s | computer says |
| 2782s | their score was on the ladder we |
| 2785s | we just can't trust it ever |
| 2787s | and um in order to have some form of |
| 2790s | ladder we kind of have to trust it |
| 2793s | uh because there's no other way to do it |
| 2795s | right now |
| 2796s | so we we don't have |
| 2799s | like our hands are tied in the sense of |
| 2801s | well we can't trust it if we want to be |
| 2804s | reliable and we have to trust it because |
| 2806s | we know other ways so it can't be |
| 2807s | reliable |
| 2809s | um |
| 2811s | but when we have multiplayer |
| 2813s | the client doesn't tell the game servers |
| 2815s | anything |
| 2817s | for that the server is telling |
| 2819s | the ladder what happened |
| 2821s | and it doesn't care what the client said |
| 2823s | the client could be like i just |
| 2824s | completed wave 2000 and the server's |
| 2826s | like |
| 2828s | no you didn't |
| 2832s | uh so it wouldn't it wouldn't be an |
| 2833s | issue anymore and um |
| 2836s | so like once multiplayer rolls out and |
| 2838s | the ladder for multiplayer is integrated |
| 2840s | properly |
| 2841s | it will just |
| 2843s | be this and i'm sure there's still ways |
| 2845s | that things can happen that are bad and |
| 2847s | we'll still have to to to work on that |
| 2849s | but instead of it just being |
| 2853s | like a lost cause it'll be possible |
| 2857s | um so you will see a dramatic increase |
| 2859s | in reliability on the ladder very |
| 2860s | quickly |
| 2877s | random name x has sub for the ninth |
| 2879s | month in a row welcome back glad to have |
| 2881s | you with us |
| 2882s | thank you very much |
| 2885s | i take it that was a good answer you |
| 2886s | liked |
| 2890s | or just coincidence |
| 2892s | all right i hope that was i hope that |
| 2894s | answered your question zakarus bear |
| 2900s | warlock yeah there's there's uh |
| 2903s | there's an idea |
| 2906s | mike if it were up to you what class |
| 2908s | mastery would you like to rework |
| 2910s | um i i would |
| 2913s | like like rework a whole mastery none |
| 2919s | i would i would be uh if i was if i was |
| 2921s | working on a specific mastery as a whole |
| 2924s | um it would be much more for the new |
| 2926s | masteries |
| 2934s | i think passives |
| 2936s | uh the mage mastery passives need the |
| 2938s | most work |
| 2946s | like i guess mage |
| 2948s | dance if i had to answer that question |
| 2953s | uh warlock |
| 2955s | necro fire switch |
| 2960s | a warlock neck |
| 2962s | oh necrotic necrotic as you're saying um |
| 2965s | i i can't really talk about specifics |
| 2967s | for |
| 2968s | upcoming classes unfortunately yet |
| 2971s | they're not built i assume this is in |
| 2973s | reference to oh yeah me saying the |
| 2975s | dungeon thing fire necrotic switch thing |
| 2977s | yeah no no no no no no no no no no not |
| 2980s | that though |
| 2992s | uh lightning converted hammer throw when |
| 2994s | you wanna be thor |
| 2999s | or just because there's other throwing |
| 3000s | synergies lightning in in sentinel |
| 3003s | uh i don't know uh also uh though |
| 3005s | there's also um let me just do a |
| 3008s | lightning |
| 3009s | uh implicit hammer |
| 3011s | i think we did |
| 3014s | there's there's gonna be changes to |
| 3017s | i don't think no one has thrown damage |
| 3018s | on it though |
| 3030s | how does the team feel about |
| 3032s | player defenses currently |
| 3034s | i mean that's such a broad such a broad |
| 3037s | question |
| 3038s | um simultaneously good and bad i don't |
| 3041s | know how to answer it really |
| 3042s | um |
| 3043s | there's certain things about it that are |
| 3044s | really great certain things about it |
| 3045s | that still need work um |
| 3048s | overall i think it's in a really good |
| 3049s | place compared to where it's been in the |
| 3051s | past and it's just getting better |
| 3061s | like individual unique items can have a |
| 3063s | surprisingly large impact on the overall |
| 3065s | ecosystem for defensive |
| 3069s | elements |
| 3075s | i still think we'll see i think we'll |
| 3077s | still see a few of those |
| 3078s | high impact defensive related items |
| 3081s | for uniques |
| 3087s | things like um |
| 3089s | bastion of honor has a huge impact on |
| 3091s | that ecosystem and i i think it start |
| 3093s | with starting to have a negative impact |
| 3094s | on it |
| 3097s | i know i know nobody likes nerfs but i |
| 3098s | think it was really healthy for the game |
| 3099s | as a whole to have that be taken from uh |
| 3102s | oh you're gonna use something in your |
| 3104s | offen well it should be that to um |
| 3109s | oh you're gonna be like you want to be a |
| 3110s | block build okay that's that's that's |
| 3112s | the one to go for it's the best one |
| 3133s | let's go |
| 3136s | come on |
| 3138s | come on |
| 3147s | remember to include atlas default game |
| 3149s | to have mike see your questions to |
| 3152s | answer yes thank you kane |
| 3154s | um |
| 3156s | i don't know who he's referring to |
| 3160s | i think it's probably the question right |
| 3161s | above it loving the current stash |
| 3162s | customization but are there plans for |
| 3165s | more specialized stashes like in the |
| 3167s | other arpgs i'm currently |
| 3169s | drowning in storage management and |
| 3171s | comparing gear to keep it somewhat |
| 3173s | organized yeah i think there's some |
| 3175s | really good um examples of |
| 3178s | stash management things that show up in |
| 3179s | other games uh specifically like the um |
| 3184s | having like default auto storage |
| 3187s | elements where like you |
| 3190s | you tab it's like key tab and you just |
| 3192s | like or sort tab you just pop it over |
| 3194s | there it goes to the specific like sword |
| 3196s | tab or something like that um like |
| 3198s | that's really cool |
| 3200s | something like that there's lots of good |
| 3201s | stuff in there and it's definitely not a |
| 3202s | completed fully finished system there's |
| 3204s | a couple bugs in there still need to |
| 3206s | work out um |
| 3208s | but yeah it's |
| 3209s | more stuff's always coming |
| 3211s | good ideas |
| 3214s | i asked about the tears because i |
| 3215s | personally don't think that corruption |
| 3217s | affects difficulty at all really 90 of |
| 3219s | the difficulty map comes down to the |
| 3221s | infinite scaling modifiers that make the |
| 3222s | experience super unsatisfying like it's |
| 3225s | harder 300 corruption or 500 well it |
| 3227s | depends on the mods i really just like |
| 3230s | that this |
| 3231s | um that that is an option if it makes |
| 3233s | sense yeah okay so you're saying so like |
| 3235s | um |
| 3242s | even just even just having corruption |
| 3244s | have a bigger impact really |
| 3248s | might just be enough there like reducing |
| 3250s | the scale on it where |
| 3251s | like just just do a |
| 3255s | like a |
| 3257s | a merge |
| 3260s | a compression a stack compression |
| 3262s | um |
| 3263s | so like everywhere that would give three |
| 3265s | corruption gives one corruption and uh |
| 3268s | everything that that one corruption or |
| 3269s | the three corruption did one corruption |
| 3270s | now does or something like that you know |
| 3272s | like just |
| 3273s | take all the numbers and divide them by |
| 3274s | three |
| 3278s | except for what corruption does multiply |
| 3280s | that by three and and |
| 3282s | yeah i i |
| 3285s | and it's kind of it's kind of the same |
| 3286s | thing about adding tears really instead |
| 3288s | is that it's it's doing that same thing |
| 3290s | but just way more extremes instead of |
| 3292s | being by three it's by 300. |
| 3302s | that makes sense |
| 3307s | okay |
| 3312s | it's a good thing this is so easy and |
| 3313s | there's not a lot of damage coming out i |
| 3316s | can just like relax |
| 3317s | and i was just gonna just cruise through |
| 3320s | it right |
| 3338s | okay it's okay it's okay we're good |
| 3339s | we're good |
| 3342s | it's easy too easy |
| 3355s | oh my character is way cockier than i am |
| 3357s | i'll say that much |
| 3359s | but it looks like she knows what she's |
| 3361s | doing |
| 3366s | at least |
| 3367s | which glass would you say has the |
| 3369s | greatest potential to cover the screen |
| 3371s | in hard-hitting dots |
| 3373s | as all the dots love the dot though ah |
| 3376s | that's a tough question um |
| 3377s | [Music] |
| 3379s | i think marksman probably does well |
| 3383s | marksman or sorcerer i think would be |
| 3384s | the two |
| 3388s | there's lots of good ones like wandering |
| 3389s | spirits does a lot |
| 3391s | um |
| 3394s | thinking |
| 3395s | volcanic orb |
| 3397s | there's a lot of potential for that |
| 3399s | multi shot has a lot of pencil for that |
| 3405s | i mean |
| 3407s | a couple patches go busted |
| 3410s | swarm blade had the best one for that |
| 3415s | there's lots of good options there |
| 3418s | uh hammer throw |
| 3421s | has has a lot of potential for that too |
| 3424s | there's a lot you know there's a lot |
| 3425s | there's a lot of good uh |
| 3427s | wide dots |
| 3433s | the trick about dots is you gotta know |
| 3435s | how to stop dots |
| 3439s | oh i see super mario rpg reference |
| 3442s | demo is |
| 3443s | diamond uh 183 congrats how does anyone |
| 3446s | got that before you but that is |
| 3447s | absolutely what it was |
| 3449s | very well done |
| 3451s | love that game |
| 3453s | definitely the best game in the paper |
| 3454s | mario series and yes it's part of the |
| 3456s | paper mario series it's totally what |
| 3458s | spawned that kevin played super mario |
| 3460s | rpg legend of the seven stars that is |
| 3463s | one of my favorite games of all time and |
| 3465s | i highly recommend it |
| 3467s | um |
| 3469s | the writing's great the music's |
| 3471s | wonderful |
| 3472s | the gameplay is tons of fun it's classic |
| 3474s | rpg jrpg style |
| 3476s | um |
| 3478s | there's there's |
| 3479s | um |
| 3480s | active elements to combat which |
| 3482s | you start start just becoming second |
| 3484s | nature |
| 3486s | um |
| 3486s | which i always always love |
| 3488s | uh it's got tons of little secrets |
| 3490s | hidden all over the place |
| 3493s | um |
| 3494s | characters you wouldn't expect |
| 3496s | characters you've never seen again |
| 3498s | uh |
| 3505s | phenomenal game phenomenal game |
| 3511s | i always i loved having the princess |
| 3513s | with a frying pan yes peach is a |
| 3515s | playable character |
| 3517s | and is great |
| 3520s | she's actually |
| 3522s | you can cheese with peach but she's |
| 3523s | really |
| 3524s | not very good otherwise |
| 3531s | are you guys planning to add a new |
| 3533s | dungeon keys as explicit model towards |
| 3536s | arena keys |
| 3538s | like arena keys are |
| 3540s | um we we talked about it it's still up |
| 3543s | in the air maybe |
| 3548s | probably not in eight five if we did it |
| 3550s | would be next match |
| 3554s | i think this the next hotfix is |
| 3555s | basically just bringing the uniques that |
| 3557s | we are missing |
| 3559s | there might be a few uh fixes here and |
| 3561s | there but that's the main thing he's |
| 3562s | doing |
| 3564s | how's the progress going with all the |
| 3566s | secret stuff you won't mention uh |
| 3568s | fantastic pretty good better than i |
| 3571s | expected really well uh and done |
| 3577s | i don't know |
| 3582s | this is not actually five secret things |
| 3583s | and i didn't actually go through them in |
| 3585s | my head i was just being a twit |
| 3589s | just for the record case |
| 3591s | because anyone's wondering |
| 3597s | all right excited for kane to help on my |
| 3600s | knee |
| 3602s | hope you got good plans |
| 3611s | i expect great things |
| 3617s | but watch your career with great |
| 3619s | interest |
| 3633s | not happening |
| 3635s | oh come on |
| 3647s | all right what's the next one what's the |
| 3648s | next one when making design |
| 3651s | choices you come across a scenario like |
| 3653s | this |
| 3655s | should be a one shot on the player how |
| 3657s | do you approach it feeling fair versus |
| 3659s | cheap because i think one shot on |
| 3660s | players can be fun but at the same time |
| 3663s | most games make them feel cheap so |
| 3664s | curious uh what your approach the |
| 3666s | problem is |
| 3669s | you ever see me like shooting horribly |
| 3671s | missed shots and kind of just stutter |
| 3673s | stepping and shooting randomly it's |
| 3674s | because i'm reading chat |
| 3683s | it's a great question |
| 3685s | it's a great question um |
| 3687s | i think i think there's a couple ways |
| 3689s | you can do it |
| 3690s | first of all it needs to be really |
| 3692s | obvious that it's gonna be bad |
| 3694s | okay |
| 3697s | um easy too easy |
| 3703s | and giving |
| 3706s | so there's there's a few things here |
| 3708s | giving players |
| 3710s | teaching players that it's gonna be a |
| 3711s | one shot's really important |
| 3713s | so having some way to say like this is |
| 3715s | really bad you need to get out of it |
| 3718s | don't try and tank it |
| 3719s | is really important and that's hard |
| 3721s | that's really hard to convey without |
| 3722s | just having someone stand in it once and |
| 3724s | die to it which sucks |
| 3727s | um |
| 3728s | so you want you want people to |
| 3730s | um |
| 3732s | you want people to to you need to |
| 3734s | communicate that it's going to be really |
| 3735s | dangerous without just killing them at |
| 3737s | least once which |
| 3739s | really difficult to do because if you um |
| 3741s | i've seen a lot of suggestions where |
| 3743s | people say like okay we'll give a light |
| 3744s | version up to show like this indicates |
| 3746s | something bad and then a big version of |
| 3748s | it to actually kill the player um |
| 3750s | yeah that's really tricky because you |
| 3752s | can end up teaching them that it's not |
| 3753s | actually that bad and they'll just stand |
| 3755s | in the really big one |
| 3759s | the other thing you can do is |
| 3762s | let the player |
| 3765s | pick like a sliding difficulty selection |
| 3767s | so this this is a little bit what |
| 3769s | happens in the monolith where you are |
| 3771s | um |
| 3772s | picking your own |
| 3774s | damage modifiers that you're going up |
| 3775s | against and if you've selected too many |
| 3777s | of them things start to become one shots |
| 3779s | um |
| 3780s | so the the feels fair part of that is |
| 3783s | well i mean you picked it to be that |
| 3785s | that hard so |
| 3786s | it's that hard like you you let that |
| 3789s | that difficulty scale up and it's slow |
| 3791s | because you had a little bit here a |
| 3792s | little bit there |
| 3795s | um |
| 3798s | but that's also tricky |
| 3799s | because it's |
| 3802s | it usually comes with a carrot and if |
| 3804s | you really want that carrot it's like |
| 3806s | okay well this carrot i should have |
| 3808s | access to this carrot but i don't |
| 3810s | because the stick part is too much |
| 3813s | um so there could be some negative |
| 3816s | reactions there too |
| 3820s | i'm kind of just |
| 3822s | talking about i'm thinking out loud |
| 3824s | going through this really i don't have a |
| 3825s | good answer off top my head um |
| 3827s | i think the most important part |
| 3830s | is making it really obvious that it's |
| 3831s | going to happen |
| 3833s | and giving plenty of time |
| 3835s | to get out of it so having an a would be |
| 3837s | really big and and it'd be obvious when |
| 3840s | it's going to go off um and all sorts of |
| 3842s | stuff and so if someone does stick |
| 3844s | around in there it's oh i got greedy |
| 3846s | instead of oh this thing took a cheap |
| 3848s | shot at me |
| 3852s | so i i'll bring it back |
| 3853s | so um |
| 3855s | i i've been playing a fair bit of elden |
| 3857s | ring lately actually i've been loving it |
| 3860s | sir |
| 3861s | i'll keep i'll keep it to the things i |
| 3863s | like the most and the positive things |
| 3864s | for the most part um |
| 3867s | not happening |
| 3868s | i could talk for hours about uh |
| 3871s | various things in that game anyways um |
| 3874s | the one thing that i am struggling with |
| 3875s | a little bit |
| 3877s | is |
| 3878s | one shots that are two shots if that |
| 3880s | makes any sense so um sometimes you you |
| 3882s | get knocked down |
| 3884s | um |
| 3886s | and like you'll take a big hit you're |
| 3888s | there and your character's like slowly |
| 3889s | getting up and you're like all right |
| 3891s | okay i'm gonna get up and i'm gonna roll |
| 3892s | away really quickly and then you're like |
| 3894s | 98 of the way through standing up and he |
| 3896s | just hits you one more time you die and |
| 3898s | you're like |
| 3900s | but |
| 3901s | that doesn't that doesn't feel great |
| 3903s | um since that that that feeling of like |
| 3905s | i've got a chance but you don't really |
| 3909s | and so i think that's that's a big part |
| 3911s | of it is |
| 3912s | making people feel like they have a |
| 3914s | chance when they do |
| 3916s | and having having a way to impact that |
| 3920s | um |
| 3921s | the situation you're in so if like |
| 3923s | keeping control in the character is |
| 3925s | really important |
| 3926s | um |
| 3927s | and telegraphing what's going to happen |
| 3929s | and giving them a chance to react and |
| 3932s | get out of it |
| 3933s | like those are the biggest parts of it |
| 3952s | i probably have a slightly different |
| 3953s | answer to that question if i |
| 3954s | spent a lot of time thinking about it |
| 3958s | but i hope that was a little bit helpful |
| 3961s | where are we here getting pretty close |
| 3962s | to this i think i think we can finish |
| 3964s | this |
| 3970s | and get into uh |
| 3972s | a dungeon or two |
| 3973s | maybe i won't be as clappy |
| 3977s | are you gonna make hitting level 100 a |
| 3979s | long-term goal for your post launch it's |
| 3982s | so easy to hit the moment race 200 will |
| 3984s | be a huge deal on launch for sure in my |
| 3986s | opinion oh yeah |
| 3988s | um |
| 3990s | i i think 90 to 100 right now is too |
| 3994s | easy |
| 3995s | um i think there's a very good chance |
| 3997s | that that will stretch out |
| 3999s | um |
| 4001s | it might be a couple stretches |
| 4004s | that happen it might not be all at once |
| 4006s | um |
| 4007s | i don't know exactly what's gonna happen |
| 4008s | but |
| 4009s | uh |
| 4011s | the amount of power you actually get |
| 4013s | from going |
| 4014s | from 90 to 100 |
| 4016s | isn't actually that much power on its |
| 4019s | own because you're that you're not |
| 4020s | unlocking new passes you're not |
| 4023s | unlocking um |
| 4026s | you know like you're not unlocking a lot |
| 4028s | of new stuff you're kind of taking the |
| 4029s | stuff you skipped over because it wasn't |
| 4031s | good enough to be taken on your first |
| 4032s | pass |
| 4034s | and as a percentage of total number of |
| 4036s | i'm talking about passes here mostly and |
| 4037s | as a percentage of the total number of |
| 4039s | passes it's |
| 4040s | every point is worth less than the point |
| 4043s | before it so to speak |
| 4046s | um |
| 4047s | that's not really how it works but yeah |
| 4051s | so i i i think extending that 90 to 100 |
| 4054s | is |
| 4055s | in the best overall interest of the game |
| 4058s | um |
| 4063s | i i don't know |
| 4065s | i have no idea how much it'll be |
| 4067s | extended by if it will be extended at |
| 4069s | all |
| 4070s | you know |
| 4071s | that's that's stuff we've got to talk |
| 4072s | about |
| 4073s | and uh work out the best thing but i i |
| 4075s | i'm i'm fairly confident that it will be |
| 4078s | extended some |
| 4086s | i'd be pretty surprised if it stayed |
| 4088s | exactly where it is because yeah it |
| 4089s | feels too fast right now i think |
| 4091s | um |
| 4092s | i don't know i really like uh like |
| 4094s | diablo ii i bring up yellow to a lot but |
| 4097s | um |
| 4098s | all the build guides would usually stop |
| 4100s | at 90 |
| 4102s | because you're like or just say and the |
| 4105s | rest of your points in x |
| 4107s | because |
| 4108s | they know that most people aren't |
| 4110s | getting up that high and it doesn't |
| 4111s | really matter that much there's a |
| 4113s | there's a lot of similarities there |
| 4118s | yeah cast your avalanche over there |
| 4124s | all confusing |
| 4131s | hello from russia stitson |
| 4135s | hello |
| 4137s | at abto mo |
| 4139s | mobilist96 glad to have you here |
| 4142s | uh what idea outside of what's already |
| 4145s | in the pipeline would you have in mind |
| 4147s | just spice up either build depth or core |
| 4149s | in game |
| 4151s | gameplay loop |
| 4153s | um i think something we actually touched |
| 4155s | on a little bit earlier is having that |
| 4156s | uber boss that final like |
| 4159s | can i ever do this maybe |
| 4162s | give it a shot |
| 4163s | work towards it |
| 4165s | um i think that's the big thing |
| 4169s | also just um |
| 4171s | more randomization systems for content |
| 4174s | itself |
| 4175s | um |
| 4176s | more different types of dungeons |
| 4178s | um |
| 4181s | having a uh like a better ladder |
| 4183s | multiplayer you know there's a lot of |
| 4184s | stuff i guess what's what idea outside |
| 4186s | of what's already in the pipeline oh um |
| 4195s | probably nothing |
| 4200s | so if i'm hearing this right multiplayer |
| 4202s | is going to be |
| 4203s | going to mean an official online only |
| 4205s | mode well like when you're playing |
| 4211s | there's terms in there that i don't know |
| 4212s | your definition of so maybe |
| 4215s | um |
| 4218s | yeah |
| 4219s | multiplayer will have an online only |
| 4222s | mode yeah like that's and that's the |
| 4223s | core thing of it where like you're |
| 4225s | playing online the uh the actual |
| 4227s | gameplay code is running on a server |
| 4229s | it's not running on your computer your |
| 4230s | computer is just processing the visuals |
| 4232s | it's sending your command inputs |
| 4235s | um the server is validating those the |
| 4237s | server is |
| 4238s | uh then telling you where characters are |
| 4240s | the server is telling you when you take |
| 4242s | damage you know it's the server's |
| 4244s | running the game and you're |
| 4246s | interacting with the server |
| 4248s | instead of your computer is running the |
| 4249s | game |
| 4254s | that can end up being a really nice ring |
| 4263s | look at that actually |
| 4278s | there's some not bad rings that just |
| 4279s | dropped there |
| 4285s | i'll take it |
| 4298s | hot sauce when |
| 4300s | whenever i walk |
| 4303s | i don't have any food for the stream |
| 4310s | you know we could probably do here |
| 4313s | i've done anything we're like we're past |
| 4314s | halfway mark i haven't i've given you |
| 4316s | nothing so far |
| 4320s | here is |
| 4321s | something that will seem both new and |
| 4323s | familiar |
| 4325s | that's my theme for today's |
| 4326s | uh |
| 4328s | my chili stream new and familiar |
| 4334s | lost last shaman ability win |
| 4336s | um |
| 4337s | we don't actually 100 know what it's |
| 4340s | going to be it's actually here here's |
| 4342s | here's something there's likely two new |
| 4344s | shaman abilities coming oh |
| 4347s | what's that mean |
| 4349s | someone probably knows what i mean by |
| 4350s | that actually |
| 4355s | but there will not be more |
| 4357s | no shaman there's there's one new |
| 4358s | shopping ability two new abilities for |
| 4360s | prime list total |
| 4361s | coming |
| 4362s | uh |
| 4365s | but it will not have more abilities than |
| 4367s | any other class |
| 4375s | no eta sorry |
| 4380s | not next patch |
| 4382s | primeless is not giving any new skills |
| 4384s | next match |
| 4388s | when i say primeless i mean like |
| 4391s | primalist shaman druid beastmaster |
| 4408s | all right all right all right here we go |
| 4410s | we're going this way |
| 4412s | uh the thing you described in elden ring |
| 4414s | the two shot thingy that's why um |
| 4417s | we don't like current stuns unless e5 |
| 4426s | yeah i can see i think it's a little bit |
| 4427s | different |
| 4428s | because there's so much time |
| 4432s | between the first hit and the depth like |
| 4437s | there is |
| 4439s | there's several times more time like |
| 4442s | five times more time between the two |
| 4445s | maybe more |
| 4463s | not happening |
| 4478s | all right |
| 4482s | so excited for warlock is there any |
| 4484s | teasers that you can give us at all |
| 4486s | what it will be like no i can't tell you |
| 4488s | anything at all the only thing i can |
| 4489s | tell you |
| 4490s | is that there's a very brief description |
| 4492s | on our website that you could go look at |
| 4499s | here |
| 4500s | i'll give you everything i can give |
| 4505s | it's not a lot |
| 4510s | a master of the forbidden arts she tears |
| 4512s | into the essence of her foes twisting |
| 4514s | and corrupting their spirits curses them |
| 4517s | curses that dim the mind and break the |
| 4519s | body the faintest word from her lips |
| 4521s | bear vile enough magic to snuff the life |
| 4524s | of her enemies entirely |
| 4530s | that's all the info i got on warlock for |
| 4531s | you |
| 4536s | and that some piece of functionality |
| 4538s | like behind the scenes tech that we |
| 4540s | created for one of the dungeons |
| 4542s | will also be used in one of the skills |
| 4545s | that the warlock might have eventually |
| 4549s | which is telling nothing but i just |
| 4551s | thought it was cool |
| 4563s | i think there's a little bit of a |
| 4564s | misconception on |
| 4565s | how much progress and priority we put on |
| 4567s | the new the new classes right now |
| 4570s | they are |
| 4571s | they're not |
| 4572s | really being worked on actively and |
| 4574s | they're not uh |
| 4576s | they're not they're not right around the |
| 4577s | corner or anything like that |
| 4582s | like i haven't done anything with |
| 4584s | warlock in |
| 4586s | i don't know a year |
| 4604s | probably more |
| 4606s | i should bring chat up again shouldn't i |
| 4610s | uh total update soon not much no |
| 4615s | uh if you were to add a barbarian master |
| 4617s | class post launch uh what would be a |
| 4620s | must-have skill idea off the top of your |
| 4622s | head uh yeah i mean so this is the |
| 4624s | there's there's a lot of stuff that's |
| 4626s | already in the game that's really iconic |
| 4627s | when i think barbarian |
| 4629s | like the two the two iconic things i |
| 4630s | think of are like i always think a deal |
| 4632s | with two barbarians so um |
| 4634s | whirlwind and battle shout |
| 4637s | battle command you know like so shouts |
| 4639s | shouts and whirlwind are the two big |
| 4640s | things that come to mind for me |
| 4642s | personally um |
| 4644s | another thing really is that that dual |
| 4646s | building two-handed items two other |
| 4647s | weapons |
| 4650s | the those like the big things that come |
| 4652s | to mind really |
| 4655s | and i think |
| 4657s | uh something |
| 4660s | something in there would have to be |
| 4661s | pretty pretty heavily |
| 4664s | involved so |
| 4665s | maybe there's maybe this is |
| 4668s | and |
| 4670s | please don't take this into the disorder |
| 4672s | maybe there's overlap skills maybe |
| 4674s | warpath gets uh two classes it's |
| 4676s | associated with you know maybe |
| 4678s | um |
| 4680s | maybe |
| 4681s | dual wielding two-handers becomes a |
| 4683s | thing maybe like this is all you notice |
| 4686s | how many times i'm saying maybe because |
| 4687s | i have no idea if any of this could be |
| 4688s | possible or would happen ever um but |
| 4691s | those are the sorts of things that i |
| 4692s | think of personally |
| 4695s | barbarian to me is very much uh |
| 4697s | i'm gonna hit you in the face and it's |
| 4699s | gonna hurt a lot also i'm really tough |
| 4703s | like that's that's |
| 4705s | that's barbarian in my world |
| 4709s | leap attack so it's already fury leap |
| 4711s | there's already work work right like |
| 4713s | it might involve um moving skills that |
| 4715s | are already on other classes |
| 4718s | other mastery classes so it may not be a |
| 4722s | like here's five new barbarian skills it |
| 4724s | might be like okay i'm gonna take this |
| 4726s | skill from here and this skill from |
| 4728s | there and then three new skills and |
| 4730s | that's barbarian and then we're gonna |
| 4731s | attack we're gonna add two new skills to |
| 4733s | other ones as well so that can happen |
| 4735s | there's there's at least one skill |
| 4737s | that's already in the game |
| 4739s | here's something there's at least one |
| 4741s | skill that's already in the game it has |
| 4743s | been for a very long time |
| 4745s | that is eventually one day in a long |
| 4748s | time down the road planned to be a skill |
| 4751s | that will be given to a fourth mastery |
| 4753s | for that class |
| 4755s | yeah |
| 4757s | so there's one skill in the game that's |
| 4758s | already earmarked for a fourth master in |
| 4760s | that class |
| 4770s | even look how much i needed |
| 4774s | hello and thanks for fast help all |
| 4777s | worked good you're welcome i don't |
| 4778s | remember what i did i doubt it was me |
| 4788s | i just saw a chat message that got |
| 4790s | blocked for using the word creep and i |
| 4791s | approved it i don't know if that gets |
| 4793s | put at the currently sent messages so it |
| 4795s | might be a weird chat message that just |
| 4796s | got put out of place |
| 4798s | um i think |
| 4800s | overlapped skills sound very very you |
| 4802s | sound very good some skills really would |
| 4804s | be interesting in other mastery classes |
| 4806s | yeah i i like it's definitely an idea |
| 4808s | we've toyed with it does cause a lot of |
| 4811s | problems |
| 4812s | like |
| 4813s | um |
| 4814s | oh so far basically nice suddenly if we |
| 4817s | do that does like |
| 4820s | say say we had |
| 4822s | um say it was done and okay how do you |
| 4825s | do that is it just like the class |
| 4827s | unlocks it |
| 4829s | um |
| 4830s | is it through an item sometimes maybe |
| 4832s | like there's there's all sorts of ways |
| 4834s | to do it but um |
| 4837s | there's there's a lot of difficulties |
| 4839s | and there's reasons we don't have that |
| 4840s | already but yeah |
| 4842s | um |
| 4844s | there might come a time where it's |
| 4845s | necessary and worthwhile and |
| 4846s | and good to have |
| 4851s | we'll see we'll see |
| 4853s | so suddenly items i think part part was |
| 4854s | getting so many items say there's a |
| 4856s | there's a |
| 4857s | sentinel only body armor that |
| 4858s | specifically |
| 4860s | uh relates to warpath and it's like |
| 4863s | necessary for warpath builds to have |
| 4864s | this armor um and then you give warpath |
| 4867s | to barbarian as well |
| 4869s | um |
| 4870s | does |
| 4873s | like suddenly do you need to make that |
| 4875s | armor also functional for primeless or |
| 4877s | for barbarian do you um |
| 4880s | do you just make another different |
| 4881s | version of the unique that's on that's |
| 4882s | on a primeless base maybe that's what |
| 4884s | you do um maybe you have them maybe you |
| 4886s | don't so that it's specifically |
| 4888s | different and there's different tools on |
| 4889s | each class i mean you already have that |
| 4891s | synergy with other skills and other um |
| 4894s | other masteries or other masters other |
| 4897s | passives as well that go with it um and |
| 4899s | there's also triggers inside the skill |
| 4900s | tree itself like uh like |
| 4904s | skills might one skill might reference |
| 4905s | another skill in that mastery so |
| 4907s | suddenly does |
| 4909s | um |
| 4910s | like four paths triggering abilities |
| 4912s | inside the tree to suddenly primeless |
| 4914s | have access to those other skills as |
| 4915s | well um or maybe the node says maybe |
| 4918s | change the nodes to say |
| 4920s | like oh it triggers this ability or this |
| 4922s | ability depending on which class you are |
| 4926s | so yeah |
| 4931s | there's a lot that goes into something |
| 4932s | like that that's that's that like |
| 4934s | if that were to happen you're really |
| 4936s | clear that it's not guaranteed to happen |
| 4937s | if it were to happen any skill being |
| 4939s | multi-class like that i think that's a |
| 4941s | post on point of view |
| 4946s | and i think it's really important for us |
| 4947s | to have those design spaces that we can |
| 4949s | that we can expand into like things that |
| 4951s | are |
| 4952s | um |
| 4953s | really interesting and cool that we can |
| 4954s | expect we can open up and focus a patch |
| 4957s | around focus the cycle around um |
| 4961s | having those things ready to go |
| 4964s | um |
| 4965s | is really important to us and we do we |
| 4967s | definitely sometimes when we're in |
| 4968s | design meetings someone will come some |
| 4969s | will be sitting around talking about |
| 4970s | something and someone will go |
| 4973s | i got an idea everybody i got an idea |
| 4975s | and we'll all be like yeah that's a |
| 4977s | great idea |
| 4978s | post launch idea and it goes in a bin |
| 4981s | um |
| 4984s | and it's really important to have those |
| 4985s | ideas and to not do them halfway |
| 4990s | i think it's like like it may be so say |
| 4992s | that idea is like doable |
| 4995s | but |
| 4996s | um |
| 4998s | we do like a basic version of it now |
| 5000s | sometimes it's not worthwhile to do the |
| 5002s | basic version first |
| 5005s | um |
| 5010s | because sometimes it just won't be as |
| 5011s | fleshed out as you want it to be and it |
| 5013s | gives at least a bad taste for that |
| 5014s | style of mechanic down the road |
| 5018s | so sometimes it is something that this |
| 5020s | is that's a very subjective thing yeah |
| 5023s | not even gonna pick up that |
| 5035s | missed like three shots in a row there |
| 5039s | uh without naming names uh what are some |
| 5043s | of the biggest rpg traps you're all |
| 5045s | trying to avoid from a dead perspective |
| 5047s | scope creep power creep community |
| 5049s | management etc there's |
| 5050s | i mean |
| 5054s | like every game makes mistakes no games |
| 5055s | perfect us included we make mistakes you |
| 5057s | know like there's |
| 5059s | there's there's so many things like that |
| 5061s | um |
| 5064s | and i i like we learn from our mistakes |
| 5065s | we learn from other people's mistakes |
| 5069s | i'm saying this really vaguely and |
| 5071s | broadly because i'm deciding if i want |
| 5072s | to actually make say any specifics or |
| 5074s | not while i'm talking |
| 5076s | um i don't know if i do |
| 5080s | um |
| 5082s | i think ex |
| 5085s | i think we need to uh here's something |
| 5087s | else i think we need to be |
| 5089s | mindful of our |
| 5091s | studio size and experience before |
| 5094s | biting off more than we can chew |
| 5099s | um |
| 5103s | and |
| 5106s | uh |
| 5108s | cautious is the wrong word because i |
| 5110s | don't think we're cautious |
| 5111s | um but being |
| 5114s | realistic |
| 5116s | might be a good way to put it |
| 5121s | and focusing on the fundamentals |
| 5125s | i think that's a good way to put it |
| 5126s | being realistic and focusing on the |
| 5128s | fundamentals |
| 5129s | like |
| 5132s | having the game release with |
| 5136s | half the classes and half the skills and |
| 5138s | half the gear but like |
| 5141s | really tight |
| 5143s | mechanics and movement |
| 5146s | and and multiplayer and like minimal |
| 5148s | bugs is way preferable |
| 5151s | to |
| 5153s | having huge expansive systems |
| 5155s | that that that are unbelievably |
| 5157s | interconnected and um adaptive to your |
| 5160s | play style and learn and like all these |
| 5162s | ridiculous things but |
| 5163s | but missing out on fundamentals like |
| 5166s | um |
| 5167s | just stuff not hitting when you want it |
| 5168s | to or like um losing your items which i |
| 5172s | just looked at the next uh comment of |
| 5174s | someone they're saying that they had |
| 5175s | lost their uh character called items |
| 5177s | unboxed so yeah fixing stuff like that's |
| 5179s | much more important |
| 5191s | all |
| 5195s | right multi-class yeah it's uh |
| 5198s | well multi-classing's a um |
| 5203s | i i i think would be a really cool |
| 5206s | thing to have in the game and we like in |
| 5208s | a sense we kind of do a little bit like |
| 5210s | i would call |
| 5211s | being able to go into the um |
| 5215s | like like serious five points in blade |
| 5216s | dancer |
| 5217s | you know i'd consider that |
| 5219s | a |
| 5221s | multi-classing to some extent like i'm |
| 5224s | i've got 20 points in rogue i've got 59 |
| 5227s | in marksman i've got five in blade |
| 5228s | dancer like |
| 5229s | i'd call that multi-classing in the in |
| 5231s | the like most base sense of it |
| 5235s | now i know you're kind of looking at |
| 5236s | that going okay well yeah but you're all |
| 5237s | just rogue that's your class really that |
| 5239s | you selected to start and yeah you're |
| 5241s | right it is um |
| 5244s | so getting getting abilities from other |
| 5246s | base classes is really interesting and |
| 5248s | uh having some overlap there is really |
| 5250s | cool |
| 5251s | who knows if that's gonna happen or when |
| 5252s | that's gonna happen if it does but um |
| 5256s | it's another one of those like nice |
| 5257s | design spaces that you can expand into |
| 5262s | not happening |
| 5270s | still seeing them all just walk through |
| 5272s | it and |
| 5273s | crumble |
| 5287s | by that logic every sentinel is |
| 5289s | multi-classing since they're all using |
| 5290s | sigils or reversal yeah |
| 5295s | yep |
| 5297s | volatile reversal is a really |
| 5298s | interesting skill i've |
| 5300s | we've reworked it a couple times that |
| 5302s | hasn't been pushed |
| 5304s | we've got a couple scrap reworks of it |
| 5306s | that have been done |
| 5307s | like the base functionality of it |
| 5310s | um |
| 5313s | one of them i am still still pulling for |
| 5324s | those gloves |
| 5327s | those gloves |
| 5338s | oh yeah ice hockey player yes i uh |
| 5340s | missed that question if you have a |
| 5342s | question for me and i didn't answer it |
| 5344s | um please repost it with an at last |
| 5346s | epoch game in the question i will be |
| 5348s | happy to get to it um yes answer your |
| 5350s | question i am a senior developer |
| 5353s | oh senior designer senior developer i |
| 5355s | think it's more accurate i i do a lot of |
| 5356s | design stuff as well |
| 5358s | um |
| 5359s | but |
| 5360s | a lot of people are involved with design |
| 5364s | um |
| 5366s | we definitely have people who it's more |
| 5367s | dedicated i've been recently the last |
| 5370s | few days i've been um |
| 5372s | really getting in heavily too oh yeah |
| 5374s | nice |
| 5375s | nice |
| 5376s | been writing design documents lots of |
| 5378s | design documents actually enjoying it |
| 5380s | which is crazy |
| 5381s | didn't honestly didn't think i would |
| 5383s | when i started it |
| 5384s | but uh |
| 5387s | dove right in and uh really enjoying |
| 5390s | myself now okay so what am i doing |
| 5402s | thanks for holding down the fort over on |
| 5403s | ask the devs llama i see i see you're |
| 5405s | answering someone's questions a whole |
| 5406s | bunch there |
| 5408s | but i'm a little busy and can't do it |
| 5410s | myself right now |
| 5419s | take care of yourself |
| 5421s | trying to take care of you lady |
| 5434s | uh so that is akirian's pedals yes thank |
| 5438s | you for saying yes |
| 5439s | i mean it's very similar looking right |
| 5442s | it's got a little bit of a |
| 5445s | some summon going on that doesn't look |
| 5447s | quite right does it |
| 5451s | it's not |
| 5452s | new art just for that |
| 5459s | karen's pedal art is sticking around in |
| 5460s | the game |
| 5464s | you might notice a slight theme |
| 5468s | once i show you another one here |
| 5476s | once i show you the third one you'll |
| 5477s | understand |
| 5478s | [Laughter] |
| 5485s | stop slacking and answer those questions |
| 5488s | nah he just locked the channel |
| 5491s | [Laughter] |
| 5498s | is it possible to get sounds for blue |
| 5499s | filter that's a pretty hotly requested |
| 5501s | item um we're not actively working on |
| 5503s | that right now but i do think it's a |
| 5505s | good idea and i i'd be surprised if it |
| 5507s | doesn't happen eventually |
| 5508s | um the key thing about it is that it |
| 5510s | would be a similar system to |
| 5513s | uh long story fluffed welcome rating |
| 5515s | party of ten people come on down wait |
| 5518s | that's not right |
| 5520s | some other show isn't it anyways uh glad |
| 5522s | to have you with us |
| 5525s | um what were you saying |
| 5529s | uh loot filter sounds like yes it would |
| 5532s | um |
| 5533s | it would be similar to |
| 5537s | uh |
| 5539s | recolor how there's like a list of |
| 5541s | colors here and you can't it's there's |
| 5543s | not just a palette we actually did have |
| 5544s | a palette in here where you just |
| 5547s | like enter a hex it or like |
| 5549s | pick it on like a |
| 5551s | if anyone's ever used like photoshop or |
| 5553s | anything where you're picking a color |
| 5555s | um |
| 5556s | when you just pick any color |
| 5558s | um |
| 5562s | the uh |
| 5562s | [Music] |
| 5564s | we would we would likely have a list of |
| 5567s | specific uh sounds that would be |
| 5570s | available so people could could be like |
| 5572s | yeah you can put sounds on there but it |
| 5573s | would be um |
| 5575s | here's a choice of |
| 5576s | one of 20 sounds instead of |
| 5579s | talking to your microphone now |
| 5585s | i i know i know a lot of people would |
| 5586s | really want that but |
| 5590s | there's room for bad things to happen |
| 5593s | that we kind of wanna not leave room for |
| 5606s | time to go home |
| 5611s | oh |
| 5613s | what else we got here showing off art |
| 5616s | for soulfire bastion unique items i |
| 5618s | think |
| 5619s | i mean you're kinda close |
| 5625s | but there's really something specific |
| 5628s | about these ones that's interesting |
| 5630s | because it's not that |
| 5634s | because there's art that was released |
| 5636s | recently |
| 5638s | that's pretty clearly sulfire bastion |
| 5640s | unique art right |
| 5643s | like |
| 5645s | let's let's let's find those i think |
| 5647s | that's pretty |
| 5654s | where are those |
| 5661s | unique items |
| 5667s | like |
| 5671s | oh i hate that it adds the back in there |
| 5672s | when you just open just the image |
| 5677s | like |
| 5685s | so that these new ones that i'm putting |
| 5687s | up are not um |
| 5690s | boss uniques for |
| 5693s | boss drops they're not unique boss drops |
| 5695s | for soul fire bash |
| 5700s | is it a necro fire set wall no it's not |
| 5703s | uh unique set of items for so far |
| 5706s | bastion dungeon |
| 5707s | kinda not really know |
| 5710s | wait |
| 5712s | yeah i mean |
| 5714s | kinda not really know is the right |
| 5716s | answer but yes at the same time yeah |
| 5718s | okay insert well yes but actually no |
| 5720s | meme here |
| 5721s | [Laughter] |
| 5724s | okay so no need to keep doing this |
| 5725s | community unique event we've already |
| 5727s | decided that the unique will create |
| 5728s | zombies zombies ah |
| 5731s | didn't even notice |
| 5733s | that's good |
| 5737s | get your favorite devs inappropriate |
| 5739s | shout outs as drop sounds now i mean |
| 5742s | okay so |
| 5746s | having uh sound packs that we put in the |
| 5749s | game |
| 5750s | um |
| 5752s | might leave room for |
| 5753s | [Music] |
| 5755s | non-traditional sounds that we feel are |
| 5757s | appropriate enough but still fun to go |
| 5759s | in |
| 5760s | that might be released on certain days |
| 5762s | of the year |
| 5764s | uh you know |
| 5771s | not happening |
| 5775s | there's there's a few clips sound clips |
| 5777s | that |
| 5778s | one might play |
| 5779s | on the stream actually |
| 5782s | that would be uh definitely definitely |
| 5784s | would never make it in the game you know |
| 5787s | no way we'd be that irresponsible |
| 5795s | um |
| 5797s | that'll be nice for the loot filter |
| 5798s | it's a mini game in itself yeah |
| 5800s | it's |
| 5801s | making a loop filter that is full |
| 5803s | featured and accessible is so flipping |
| 5806s | difficult oh my goodness |
| 5808s | um |
| 5810s | just like oh it's so hard |
| 5812s | anyways um there's definitely still more |
| 5815s | stuff we want to do with the lip filter |
| 5817s | one thing that i really want to do with |
| 5818s | it i've talked to this few times is |
| 5819s | having some sort of |
| 5821s | um in-game |
| 5823s | shareable system for loot filters |
| 5825s | so where you can you just open your loop |
| 5827s | filter and you'd be like new loot filter |
| 5829s | and one of the options is like |
| 5831s | select from a community one and there's |
| 5833s | just like |
| 5834s | a database of loot filters in game |
| 5836s | that'll be like upvoted and have |
| 5839s | descriptions and you know you can filter |
| 5841s | by like oh i need one for a rogue and |
| 5843s | it'll just only show you rogue ones and |
| 5845s | um |
| 5847s | i know there's there's databases online |
| 5849s | for things like that already and build |
| 5851s | guides quite often come with loot filter |
| 5852s | files which which is fantastic and the |
| 5854s | people who do that |
| 5856s | um |
| 5858s | having it in game i think would would |
| 5859s | make it a lot more accessible for a lot |
| 5861s | of people |
| 5863s | um |
| 5864s | and we've tried to hide certain features |
| 5866s | behind like advanced buttons just so |
| 5868s | people don't get overwhelmed with it |
| 5871s | but we're still we're still working on |
| 5872s | that and improving that i'm sure that's |
| 5873s | something like loot filter in general is |
| 5875s | something that will get |
| 5876s | a lot of improvements for years to come |
| 5881s | that's one of those systems that you |
| 5882s | like you look at you're like that's |
| 5884s | never really gonna be done is it |
| 5891s | okay let's just keep going |
| 5895s | i want to fight the boss |
| 5900s | it gives me 20 bucks still |
| 5911s | where do you see set items going in the |
| 5912s | future oh great question |
| 5916s | i i don't have a good answer for it |
| 5917s | there's there's a few things we've we |
| 5919s | talked about and looked at um i was i'm |
| 5921s | i'm in the middle of writing the items |
| 5923s | design document right now we're kind of |
| 5925s | retroactively writing some of them or |
| 5926s | updating them because we had some |
| 5927s | documents that are just too old now and |
| 5930s | i was writing the set section yesterday |
| 5933s | um |
| 5935s | and i was like writing it out i put a |
| 5937s | section there i'm just like |
| 5939s | there's room for |
| 5941s | uh |
| 5942s | like there's room for changes here so i |
| 5943s | care what i wrote but it was |
| 5945s | about needing to |
| 5947s | this not to be the final version of it |
| 5950s | i saw some really interesting um |
| 5953s | posts on our forums this last couple |
| 5955s | weeks uh there was there was one that i |
| 5957s | really liked we haven't talked about it |
| 5959s | yet um so |
| 5961s | i'm the only one i know for sure that's |
| 5963s | red i'm sure other people have two on |
| 5964s | the team but we haven't discussed it in |
| 5966s | our design meetings yet |
| 5969s | um |
| 5970s | there was one that was instead of each |
| 5972s | item being a |
| 5974s | like |
| 5975s | instead of needing three set items to |
| 5977s | activate a bonus you need like six set |
| 5980s | power |
| 5982s | to activate the bonus |
| 5983s | and each item could have anywhere from |
| 5984s | like one to four set power so like you |
| 5986s | could activate you could need six items |
| 5988s | to activate it with all with one set |
| 5990s | power or you might only need two to |
| 5991s | activate each with three set power or |
| 5993s | something like that um |
| 5996s | i thought that was a really cool way to |
| 5997s | like |
| 5998s | have that |
| 6000s | um |
| 6003s | have the powerful set items have a way |
| 6005s | to scale and grow |
| 6007s | um possibly even through like |
| 6011s | a dungeon system that maybe like |
| 6012s | increased set power of an item or |
| 6014s | something like that or re-rolled the set |
| 6016s | power of rhino or something like that |
| 6018s | um |
| 6019s | you know and i i really i really liked |
| 6021s | that idea i haven't really dug into it |
| 6023s | or talked about it i don't know if |
| 6024s | there's any problems or pitfalls there |
| 6026s | uh |
| 6027s | but that was one that i enjoyed |
| 6030s | um |
| 6032s | today the biggest thing that set items |
| 6034s | fall victim to right now is |
| 6037s | there they're just |
| 6038s | not good enough in general and they |
| 6040s | don't have much |
| 6042s | tail on the chase |
| 6044s | um |
| 6047s | they sort of have this |
| 6051s | i don't know i don't know how to |
| 6052s | describe this there's this weird like |
| 6054s | okay we got there got everything and it |
| 6056s | can sometimes be a big spike |
| 6058s | in |
| 6059s | uh in power and having that that final |
| 6063s | um |
| 6065s | the final piece that you add to your |
| 6066s | gear and like the the final set bonus is |
| 6069s | huge that's what you've been going for |
| 6071s | and and having it be really impactful is |
| 6073s | important in order to make an incentive |
| 6075s | to go for it um |
| 6078s | but then like the rest of the gear has |
| 6080s | to be kind of crap in order to make the |
| 6082s | whole thing not too powerful and |
| 6086s | it's it's it's really tricky to have |
| 6088s | them function nicely |
| 6092s | and i don't know what to do about it yet |
| 6096s | um but i think i think set power i don't |
| 6098s | know the name we'd give the the stat as |
| 6099s | well but i'm trying to set potential it |
| 6101s | doesn't really work so set power is the |
| 6103s | one i like the most i care what they |
| 6104s | called it in the post or whose post it |
| 6106s | was i'm sorry whoever it was great post |
| 6108s | i enjoyed it |
| 6111s | um there were a few other posts about |
| 6112s | set items recently too that i enjoyed as |
| 6114s | well this wasn't just that one |
| 6117s | that was just one i liked the |
| 6119s | most um |
| 6123s | my opinion does not mean |
| 6125s | everything at all |
| 6128s | in this context |
| 6137s | all right more questions let's keep it |
| 6138s | keep the ball rolling |
| 6141s | uh |
| 6142s | so for halloween b dance mic |
| 6145s | sound blue filter got it yeah |
| 6148s | [Laughter] |
| 6154s | no why not |
| 6171s | i want it let me pick it up come on huh |
| 6177s | please |
| 6178s | thank you |
| 6180s | it's holding out on me should come down |
| 6181s | here first |
| 6185s | they're fighting each other |
| 6187s | that doesn't have very often |
| 6195s | uh so the set power would be similar to |
| 6197s | legendary potential so if it sounds like |
| 6199s | a reasonable thing it would actually be |
| 6201s | really different than legendary |
| 6202s | potential but in the sense that there's |
| 6204s | this |
| 6205s | like |
| 6205s | um |
| 6207s | more like |
| 6209s | like extra stat version of of set items |
| 6212s | that you could drop that would have |
| 6214s | um build changing implications yeah so |
| 6217s | like |
| 6219s | um |
| 6220s | you've you've got |
| 6222s | like you're you're sitting on |
| 6226s | uh like and like you need like three set |
| 6228s | pieces that make up the set to get the |
| 6230s | set bonus really want um and one of them |
| 6233s | is like a single |
| 6234s | set power item |
| 6236s | and you're like i just and you find like |
| 6238s | another one of them that has like one |
| 6240s | more set power on it and suddenly you've |
| 6243s | got this like you can you can take one |
| 6245s | of those items out |
| 6246s | and suddenly you've got this whole new |
| 6249s | um |
| 6251s | like this the slot opens up to be able |
| 6252s | to switch it with something that's a |
| 6253s | little less maybe a unique that has a |
| 6256s | bonus that's also complementary |
| 6259s | and i think just like having this this |
| 6261s | place later on in |
| 6263s | uh in your in the game as you as you |
| 6266s | like after you've completed this set |
| 6268s | there's still room to have |
| 6270s | that like set puzzle change implications |
| 6273s | is |
| 6275s | i think really important i really like |
| 6276s | it |
| 6279s | that was the big thing that i liked |
| 6280s | about it so much |
| 6285s | one problem is also with it becoming too |
| 6287s | specialized where it creates a |
| 6289s | best-in-slot mechanic in the only viable |
| 6291s | way of playing certain skills yeah yeah |
| 6293s | yeah and i think i think that's one of |
| 6295s | the things that having the |
| 6297s | um |
| 6298s | like really interesting parts of the |
| 6300s | mechanics in the set bonuses uh and and |
| 6303s | having the legendary of the budget the |
| 6304s | set power on these set items is that |
| 6306s | maybe you find like say like the gloves |
| 6309s | in the set are like the weakest part of |
| 6310s | the set right |
| 6312s | um but you find a four set power set of |
| 6314s | gloves and suddenly it's like okay well |
| 6317s | now i can |
| 6319s | take off another piece that's actually a |
| 6321s | pretty good piece in the set um |
| 6323s | so i put but this other unique fits in |
| 6325s | better and you keep going with that |
| 6327s | until suddenly you do find the other |
| 6329s | piece like the chess piece say with high |
| 6330s | set potential |
| 6332s | power and you like switch out the the |
| 6334s | gloves for better gloves and you put the |
| 6335s | chest back in and there's still this |
| 6337s | like |
| 6338s | um |
| 6339s | this this gear reorganizing puzzle that |
| 6342s | still can happen after you've completed |
| 6344s | the set and i think that's really |
| 6345s | important |
| 6347s | um |
| 6348s | yeah |
| 6353s | when like the set bonus becomes the best |
| 6355s | in slot piece |
| 6357s | but which piece is giving you that set |
| 6359s | bonus can change |
| 6361s | or like how you're configuring your gear |
| 6362s | to get that set bonus can still change |
| 6364s | after you've got it |
| 6366s | i think that's the key that that really |
| 6368s | needs to make sense great and honestly |
| 6371s | just realizing that right now as we're |
| 6373s | talking |
| 6377s | so maybe i'm wrong |
| 6381s | all right next one giving you guys are |
| 6383s | about three month content patches is it |
| 6385s | roughly what to expect for cycle time |
| 6387s | frames three months before new ones or |
| 6389s | will they last longer they might last |
| 6390s | longer and um |
| 6394s | patches between now and launch might |
| 6396s | start to deviate from that timeline a |
| 6398s | bit |
| 6401s | i would say you can be less confident in |
| 6403s | that regularity shorter or longer |
| 6406s | um |
| 6408s | patch timings between now and launch |
| 6409s | will start to become more based on |
| 6412s | what we have done and when we want which |
| 6415s | which content we want to release |
| 6416s | together rather than keeping up a |
| 6418s | timeline |
| 6419s | um |
| 6421s | because of the types of content that's |
| 6422s | coming out |
| 6423s | in the next few patches |
| 6428s | game design on the fly i mean |
| 6431s | i wake up some mornings and i'm like |
| 6433s | i've got it |
| 6436s | all right i got one more one more item |
| 6438s | to share with you |
| 6439s | it doesn't |
| 6440s | kind of fades into the ui a little bit |
| 6442s | worse which is |
| 6445s | no idea let me just make it bigger does |
| 6446s | that make the problem even worse |
| 6450s | kind of does |
| 6453s | oh that fixes it |
| 6455s | mike what are you doing |
| 6461s | here we go |
| 6468s | now i will leave it to you |
| 6470s | was if anyone ever read dykstra |
| 6473s | um |
| 6474s | it's an exercise for the reader thought |
| 6476s | he said |
| 6478s | oh |
| 6481s | that was some dry reading |
| 6482s | i was never a big fan |
| 6485s | brilliant man |
| 6490s | leave for the reader to decide the uh to |
| 6492s | fix to work out the connection |
| 6496s | puzzle bosses over uh ever being talked |
| 6499s | about a boss where the mechanic is |
| 6501s | interesting |
| 6502s | with uh |
| 6503s | interacting with the environment to |
| 6505s | figure out a puzzle to unlock a boss |
| 6507s | fight be nice unique boss experience |
| 6509s | from the rest of the normal go in and |
| 6511s | kill it |
| 6514s | so there's there's um |
| 6516s | a really interesting thing that happened |
| 6517s | when i was pretty early in dming i was |
| 6520s | me and my buddies |
| 6523s | uh |
| 6524s | so someone gave us a pathfinder book |
| 6527s | which uh it's basically dungeons and |
| 6529s | dragons a lot of people called |
| 6530s | pathfinder dnd 3.5 |
| 6532s | um so it's |
| 6534s | it's it's very similar |
| 6536s | uh tabletop rpg |
| 6538s | a lot of fun big fan |
| 6540s | um |
| 6542s | and |
| 6543s | we |
| 6544s | so i was um |
| 6548s | of my friends i was living with the time |
| 6549s | i'm one of the more |
| 6552s | nerdy people |
| 6553s | so it was kind of just i and i was |
| 6555s | really excited to do it but i kind of |
| 6556s | defaulted a little bit to just the dm |
| 6559s | for it |
| 6560s | which totally happened to do it now i i |
| 6562s | didn't |
| 6564s | read as much as i should have as a young |
| 6566s | dm which was a mistake um but a ton of |
| 6569s | fun with it and learned a lot of things |
| 6571s | and one interesting thing |
| 6574s | was i created a lot of puzzles |
| 6576s | uh in in in the campaigns early on and |
| 6578s | they were puzzles that the the people |
| 6580s | sitting at the table had to figure out |
| 6584s | um and we had this moment where |
| 6587s | um |
| 6589s | they figured out the puzzle i can't |
| 6590s | remember exactly what it was a while ago |
| 6591s | they figured out the puzzle |
| 6594s | and |
| 6595s | the the person who figured it out their |
| 6598s | character was |
| 6599s | like zero intelligence just dumb it |
| 6603s | weren't from the area had no idea what |
| 6604s | was going on like their character was |
| 6606s | the last person that should have figured |
| 6608s | out that |
| 6610s | but they as a person did figure it out |
| 6617s | and it creates this it made me think a |
| 6619s | lot about |
| 6620s | designing |
| 6623s | like meta puzzles or intellectually |
| 6625s | complex puzzles that the player has to |
| 6627s | figure out |
| 6629s | in an rpg setting |
| 6631s | when |
| 6632s | free when really like |
| 6634s | if you're gonna look at like immersion |
| 6635s | for it the characters who should be |
| 6637s | figuring out that puzzle |
| 6639s | um |
| 6640s | but it doesn't always make sense for the |
| 6641s | character to figure that out so there's |
| 6643s | sort of this like disconnect a little |
| 6644s | bit between |
| 6645s | um the character and the gameplay which |
| 6648s | is unfortunate which which ideally you |
| 6649s | want to avoid if you can |
| 6652s | but just having a situation where you're |
| 6653s | like i |
| 6655s | like roller d20 did my character figure |
| 6657s | out the puzzle that's less engaging |
| 6661s | um |
| 6662s | and i think there's like some |
| 6664s | interesting stuff that happens some |
| 6665s | similarities with that problem with the |
| 6667s | game like like epoch as well |
| 6670s | um |
| 6674s | so i really like having |
| 6676s | having things like that in the game i |
| 6678s | think it could bring a lot too it's like |
| 6679s | puzzle bosses i think could be really |
| 6680s | good |
| 6682s | one of the hard parts about it is once |
| 6683s | you've learned the puzzle it it really |
| 6686s | trivializes it as well |
| 6687s | and it's kind of it's a lot of fun the |
| 6689s | first time and not a lot of fun after |
| 6691s | that |
| 6692s | so you almost have to have |
| 6695s | a puzzle |
| 6697s | that changes |
| 6699s | based on like an adaptive puzzle |
| 6707s | no idea what that looks like |
| 6712s | but |
| 6713s | but that's sort of what i i would be |
| 6716s | i'd be looking at to try and do is in |
| 6718s | order to have something like this |
| 6719s | actually in game it's some sort of like |
| 6720s | adaptive puzzle system where it's like a |
| 6723s | little bit different each time |
| 6725s | and then you also have to have it be |
| 6727s | like a lot of people don't |
| 6729s | play games like these specifically to |
| 6731s | solve puzzles like that it's kind of |
| 6732s | like almost a different game genre as |
| 6734s | well |
| 6744s | and |
| 6747s | so yeah i'm |
| 6749s | i'm not sure about the state of puzzle |
| 6751s | bosses in general but it is a really |
| 6753s | interesting thing i do like the idea a |
| 6755s | lot |
| 6766s | huh |
| 6782s | is |
| 6795s | might not be obvious what i'm doing but |
| 6796s | i'm standing on one half of the |
| 6800s | um |
| 6804s | if anyone's struggling with this fight |
| 6805s | it's a tough fight um there's a lot of |
| 6807s | mechanics happening all at once you |
| 6808s | gotta watch out for |
| 6810s | um |
| 6811s | whenever he puts his head down |
| 6814s | like like the eye goes below the |
| 6816s | platform |
| 6818s | uh he's gonna stand up quickly and |
| 6821s | suddenly and like do a big attack right |
| 6824s | in front of him so the eye goes down |
| 6825s | like that right there you gotta move |
| 6828s | um claw goes up you don't move much but |
| 6830s | you gotta move because you might get |
| 6833s | stunned um |
| 6835s | when when the eye turns color and it |
| 6838s | kind of like rotates a little bit before |
| 6839s | he starts going you want to try and move |
| 6843s | uh as far away to the other side as |
| 6845s | possible because you're what you're |
| 6846s | hoping for him to do is |
| 6848s | like |
| 6850s | so he's picked a way that's like facing |
| 6852s | forward and if you're on one side of |
| 6855s | that whatever forward is you want to try |
| 6856s | and get to the other side of that so |
| 6857s | that he starts doing it and shoots |
| 6859s | towards where you were but doesn't turn |
| 6861s | towards where you now are |
| 6867s | well that's not |
| 6869s | great for us |
| 6872s | we'll just take mana i guess |
| 6876s | we don't need mana at all |
| 6880s | but |
| 6881s | we don't even apply shock or deal |
| 6883s | lightning damage that's a little |
| 6885s | unfortunate but |
| 6886s | hey man is better than nothing |
| 6892s | soulfire bastion key i do not believe |
| 6898s | all right did i miss any questions |
| 6900s | probably |
| 6902s | uh sockets still in the menu sockets are |
| 6904s | great um i think sockets are a really |
| 6906s | good um example of |
| 6908s | having design space to grow into |
| 6911s | and i don't think we'll see them in |
| 6914s | uh 1.0 but i do think we will see them |
| 6921s | and when i when i wear it like that |
| 6922s | i can be very wrong |
| 6924s | so |
| 6928s | any thoughts on taking bosses from the |
| 6931s | now optional empowered model of quests |
| 6933s | and them as random boss for empowered |
| 6935s | echoes love that idea |
| 6938s | i haven't thought of it before |
| 6943s | oh i see |
| 6944s | already claire's here my time has come |
| 6948s | i i mentioned this before i know |
| 6950s | someone's gonna be really happy about |
| 6952s | this |
| 6955s | you're welcome |
| 6966s | uh is there any plans to implement an |
| 6968s | in-game auto hotkey for say one skill |
| 6970s | before release |
| 6972s | up to one skill for lease extremely |
| 6975s | unlikely |
| 6976s | extremely unlikely i hate saying no |
| 6979s | like just outright knows on things i'm |
| 6981s | very tempted to say out right now to |
| 6982s | that |
| 6988s | i hope those blessings yeah |
| 6991s | yeah those blessings so good |
| 7000s | my bridge |
| 7002s | yeah |
| 7002s | [Music] |
| 7003s | second bridge |
| 7009s | wait still skill points |
| 7013s | radius and growth speed is what i was |
| 7014s | doing |
| 7015s | just already on you you don't need |
| 7017s | allies for that |
| 7023s | i mean |
| 7024s | just more different types of dots being |
| 7026s | applied is not bad |
| 7032s | i mean that's pretty sweet |
| 7034s | sure let's do that |
| 7041s | we don't care about that |
| 7043s | don't care about that |
| 7051s | i mean that's pretty sweet |
| 7054s | hey stration yeah let's just crank that |
| 7056s | full |
| 7059s | this is what i was going towards armor |
| 7061s | shirts really great too |
| 7065s | let's just do frailty |
| 7079s | that's what i like |
| 7080s | i know i've deviated from the build |
| 7083s | i've altered the build pray i don't |
| 7085s | alter |
| 7088s | i have two minutes |
| 7090s | two minutes i should not have entered |
| 7092s | this |
| 7093s | how fast can we do it |
| 7099s | any chance there will be a class |
| 7101s | specific blessings in the future a |
| 7103s | chance to get multiple blessings from |
| 7104s | one timeline um |
| 7106s | i would say it'll be extremely rare to |
| 7108s | ever have |
| 7109s | like two blessings on a single timeline |
| 7113s | it's not impossible but very rare |
| 7116s | um |
| 7117s | class specific lessons could be a thing |
| 7119s | um the system supports it |
| 7122s | we don't uh we don't have any plans for |
| 7124s | the moment but it does support it |
| 7129s | not happening |
| 7136s | just want to get through this one |
| 7138s | because i'm gonna run over time |
| 7142s | and i don't like running over time if i |
| 7144s | can help it |
| 7146s | jazz hands |
| 7148s | [Laughter] |
| 7159s | i mean option two for completing is i |
| 7161s | just die |
| 7164s | which might just happen |
| 7174s | uh |
| 7181s | [Music] |
| 7186s | did i not even click this yet oh my |
| 7188s | goodness i thought i clicked it |
| 7195s | there we |
| 7197s | go handled |
| 7200s | handled |
| 7209s | all right |
| 7210s | uh where did we get to there's any last |
| 7211s | last second questions here before i sign |
| 7214s | off |
| 7216s | get that money |
| 7218s | cash money |
| 7222s | wait those rings i was pretty happy with |
| 7223s | those rings |
| 7225s | actually last quick couple questions |
| 7227s | here do you have an actual eta |
| 7229s | multiplayer no |
| 7230s | uh and will there be a market or an |
| 7232s | auction house there will be some form of |
| 7236s | uh way to |
| 7238s | have items that you didn't pick up and |
| 7240s | do things with items to other players |
| 7242s | that they didn't pick up |
| 7244s | that's not all i could say right now |
| 7246s | um |
| 7247s | once league seasons not sure what you |
| 7249s | want to call we're calling them cycles |
| 7250s | right now uh begin we'll |
| 7254s | effort |
| 7256s | next topic won't be this week did i say |
| 7257s | that |
| 7259s | no next office won't be this week |
| 7260s | i said that before it was planned to be |
| 7262s | this week we pushed it to next week |
| 7264s | sorry |
| 7265s | um |
| 7266s | will effort be made not to clash with |
| 7268s | the release of path of exile league |
| 7269s | dates |
| 7270s | um |
| 7272s | the first and foremost thing and this |
| 7274s | could change currently our um |
| 7277s | our main plan is |
| 7280s | to do what's best for our game timeline |
| 7284s | uh if we can still |
| 7287s | have our own timeline that we like |
| 7289s | and that we're happy with uh if we have |
| 7291s | an option between two dates and there's |
| 7292s | not really a big difference as far as |
| 7294s | we're concerned and one of those dates |
| 7295s | conflicts with path of exiles and one of |
| 7297s | them doesn't we'll pick the one that |
| 7299s | doesn't |
| 7300s | we're very aware that there are two |
| 7302s | games uh more more than just one game in |
| 7304s | the space and we need to um |
| 7308s | a lot of people like to play multiples |
| 7309s | of those games that we need to respect |
| 7311s | those games and uh |
| 7313s | respect people's times and uh it's it's |
| 7315s | i think healthier to |
| 7317s | um |
| 7320s | like |
| 7321s | try and offset them if we can |
| 7325s | yeah |
| 7326s | but i i just can't guarantee that every |
| 7327s | single one is going to be |
| 7329s | completely separate |
| 7331s | because there might there might end up |
| 7332s | being some incidental overlap |
| 7334s | but we like to keep them separate and |
| 7335s | you may notice from our patches already |
| 7337s | that we try and do that now |
| 7340s | all right last one thanks for a good |
| 7341s | time as always |
| 7342s | till next week you're welcome uh let's |
| 7348s | thanks for stopping by |
| 7350s | i had a ton of fun i hope you did too |
| 7352s | i'll be back same time same place next |
| 7354s | week hope to see you then |