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| 5s | good afternoon everybody welcome back to |
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| 7s | the last epoch devstream |
| 11s | as always |
| 12s | i'm your host mike |
| 14s | let's get right into it |
| 17s | we're going to keep rolling with our uh |
| 18s | with our rogue here we've been quite |
| 20s | happy with it |
| 21s | i'm just going to get a couple more |
| 23s | levels i want to i want to hit |
| 25s | in the 75 range 75 maybe 80 if i can |
| 28s | possibly and uh |
| 32s | do some uh do some |
| 34s | dungeon runs here |
| 36s | i really want to do some |
| 39s | do some do some soul gambling and |
| 43s | all the new stuff we got going on in |
| 45s | there |
| 47s | that's my plan for today |
| 48s | um as always i'll be answering questions |
| 50s | if anyone has any please feel free to |
| 52s | leave them in the comments and i will be |
| 54s | happy to get them soon as i can |
| 60s | we're also |
| 61s | uh just kicked off phase two of our |
| 65s | uh community designed unique item looks |
| 67s | like we're going with a mage two-handed |
| 69s | as voted on by all of you |
| 71s | and uh today's just picking the type of |
| 74s | two hand we're doing so either |
| 76s | axe sword mace staff |
| 79s | swordmaster |
| 85s | spear i know he's missing one |
| 88s | no bows though yet uh because rogue |
| 91s | zealand can do a bow |
| 102s | yeah so the thing's interesting i think |
| 104s | it's there's there's one really obvious |
| 106s | choice in there for mage two-hander |
| 109s | staff and there's |
| 111s | four really not obvious choices um |
| 116s | some people looking for a not obvious |
| 117s | choice might have uh split in the vote |
| 119s | problems so to speak |
| 122s | but uh yeah i thought we got something |
| 125s | right off the bat here let me get back |
| 127s | to stream labs oh star mcfluffin and and |
| 131s | party and company |
| 133s | welcome to the party |
| 135s | glad to have you with us |
| 138s | and loan service we sub for 11 months in |
| 140s | a row thank you very much |
| 141s | as always reminder to everyone here um |
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| 152s | the month which um right now is still |
| 155s | our relief for ukraine children through |
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| 160s | matching donations up to ten thousand |
| 162s | dollars still |
| 163s | yeah that's our track |
| 165s | hello everyone |
| 168s | i see people i see familiar faces |
| 173s | i see new faces |
| 175s | glad to have you all with us |
| 184s | the rogue does with a bow opens the |
| 186s | portal kind of funny it's like |
| 191s | and yeah if you have any questions um |
| 193s | for me that you'd like me to answer hit |
| 194s | at last epoch game |
| 196s | in the comments so i see it loud and |
| 199s | clear |
| 200s | we are rocking our uh range of dragons |
| 203s | timeline here trying to finish that |
| 206s | as quick as we can i hope |
| 208s | um i do want to get some levels so i'll |
| 209s | see if there's any |
| 211s | experienced ones to go for i don't see |
| 213s | anything |
| 215s | we'll go here just because it branches |
| 217s | nicely |
| 219s | question around the bathroom the pig i |
| 221s | heard you say uh |
| 223s | that level 90 to 100 was too fast for |
| 226s | you she's liking yeah |
| 228s | is the pace of poe a goal faster slower |
| 231s | um so the pace not being to our liking |
| 234s | we do want to slow it down from what it |
| 237s | is now um |
| 240s | i'll be honest i have never actually |
| 241s | leveled the path of exile character over |
| 243s | level 91 i think |
| 246s | um |
| 248s | i always end up uh getting to the end of |
| 250s | this into the into the ladder of what i |
| 251s | want to do in the ladder by around that |
| 252s | point and uh don't end up leveling it |
| 255s | faster than that so i don't have a good |
| 256s | rate personal frame of reference |
| 259s | um |
| 260s | on path of exile |
| 262s | i would suspect we |
| 265s | like |
| 266s | i can use double two as a reference and |
| 268s | uh faster than diablo two i can say that |
| 271s | because that's just brutal |
| 273s | um |
| 276s | we're also we also haven't hit a number |
| 278s | yet |
| 279s | um |
| 280s | a lot of the power in |
| 283s | uh in your character development post |
| 285s | level 90 comes from items |
| 287s | very little of it actually comes from |
| 289s | your level itself |
| 291s | and um |
| 293s | getting those super high levels is more |
| 295s | often than not more of a |
| 297s | like a bragging right badge of honor |
| 299s | achievement type thing rather than an |
| 300s | actual i'm going to finish my character |
| 302s | with it |
| 304s | lots of build guides for |
| 306s | um like double 2 for example and i'm |
| 308s | sure path of exile as well they kind of |
| 310s | they probably kind of stop around level |
| 312s | 90 because the level |
| 314s | power difference is so minimal i'm sure |
| 317s | there's exceptions to that |
| 319s | but yeah slower than it is now |
| 322s | um |
| 324s | i would guess probably faster than path |
| 325s | of exile but |
| 326s | a we haven't figured it out yet we |
| 328s | haven't landed on something yet and i |
| 330s | don't have a personal frame reference |
| 331s | for that |
| 346s | this guy is |
| 348s | a beefy |
| 358s | doesn't matter no problem |
| 363s | it's funny we're actually talking about |
| 364s | the um |
| 365s | leveling speed yesterday |
| 369s | and there's a few other things tied into |
| 370s | that as well so something that people |
| 372s | have brought up in the past is um the |
| 374s | feeling of getting experience shrines |
| 377s | and experience rewards from monoliths at |
| 379s | level 100 and what that does |
| 385s | and i i think part of it is getting to |
| 387s | hundreds too easy so that you're hitting |
| 390s | that point a lot sooner |
| 392s | um |
| 402s | because the level 100 character with |
| 403s | good gear with a level 100 character |
| 405s | with bad gear versus a level 80 |
| 407s | character with good gear the 80s |
| 408s | character is probably better |
| 420s | this thing is running away from me and i |
| 422s | don't like it |
| 425s | you got to stay in range so i can kill |
| 426s | you easier bud come on |
| 429s | is this day one or something huh |
| 433s | all right next question uh zachary's bae |
| 434s | i left my suggestion regarding this in |
| 436s | discord but wondering |
| 439s | if |
| 440s | you guys have any plans to alleviate |
| 442s | issues and improve some of the |
| 444s | functionality with minion targeting |
| 445s | seems to be exacerbated with the set on |
| 448s | some of the interactions oh like with i |
| 450s | think i saw i didn't see you posted but |
| 452s | i'm assuming it's you now from this with |
| 453s | the um |
| 455s | uh |
| 456s | [Music] |
| 458s | abomination getting in the way of the |
| 459s | smaller minions question mark |
| 465s | just remove minions |
| 466s | yeah we're not going to do that i don't |
| 468s | think |
| 470s | talk about if you really want |
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| 502s | uh all right |
| 504s | oh diy thank you for giving us some |
| 506s | drama arts |
| 507s | he definitely needs it |
| 513s | in case anyone's underwear rhymer is one |
| 515s | of our |
| 517s | designer qa |
| 519s | all-around does stuff person |
| 528s | the media targeting is really tricky so |
| 530s | um getting minion targeting to even work |
| 532s | the way it does sorry kind of i read |
| 534s | your question didn't really answer it um |
| 535s | i don't think there's any major changes |
| 537s | uh planned on the horizon for it right |
| 539s | now |
| 539s | um |
| 542s | there's |
| 543s | when there's a bigger minion in front of |
| 544s | a smaller minion i don't personally know |
| 546s | of a good way to fix that directly i |
| 550s | know one thing that people bring up a |
| 551s | lot is having let's make it yeah be |
| 553s | having the ability to target up here |
| 557s | which is great if it's a single a single |
| 560s | frame |
| 561s | uh targeting system like uh |
| 564s | you know you have like |
| 566s | 10 swirls or whatever they all condense |
| 568s | into one uh targeting frame like one one |
| 571s | health frame |
| 574s | card |
| 575s | there it is |
| 577s | one card and uh |
| 580s | skeletons do that quite quickly as well |
| 583s | i think it's anything over three minions |
| 585s | of the same type get combined but i |
| 587s | could be wrong |
| 592s | and uh oh come on don't die mike |
| 600s | oh |
| 602s | sorry that was kind of loud my bad |
| 606s | um |
| 610s | what was i talking about oh yeah |
| 611s | targeting so so what it does actually |
| 612s | does in order to target |
| 614s | um minions and allow minions targeting |
| 616s | to show up at all when there are enemies |
| 618s | there is it actually like it raycasts |
| 620s | from your cursor onto the onto the |
| 622s | screen |
| 625s | and it's it's |
| 627s | uh got different things that it can hit |
| 629s | with that raycast and it it's |
| 632s | alternating every frame between or maybe |
| 634s | it's every ten frames like that between |
| 636s | ray casting |
| 637s | uh |
| 639s | two things that can hit anything and |
| 641s | things that can only hit |
| 643s | minions |
| 645s | um so you can still get minion targeting |
| 647s | when it's underneath an enemy |
| 650s | it's weird i know |
| 652s | and um |
| 654s | i could see |
| 656s | you know i i don't know the good |
| 657s | solution to being able to target a |
| 659s | skeleton behind a abomination but i |
| 662s | definitely see the problem |
| 675s | uh plus one for |
| 677s | queer math girls question about |
| 678s | colorblind mode |
| 680s | uh nope |
| 681s | no updates on it sorry it's uh |
| 684s | it's it's one of those things we'd love |
| 686s | to do it faster um |
| 689s | making the game comes first |
| 698s | we gotta get we gotta get core |
| 699s | functionality down first a lot of it as |
| 701s | well is like um sometimes creating |
| 704s | systems like that cause multiplicative |
| 706s | work down the road |
| 707s | um or technical debt depending on how |
| 709s | you wanna look at it so if we make |
| 711s | um |
| 712s | i know people have problems with |
| 715s | uh when when your health drains too |
| 716s | quick and there's the the gray health or |
| 718s | the the yellow health shadow that shows |
| 720s | up behind and having that be confused |
| 722s | with your health bar |
| 724s | um |
| 726s | say we were to make a a this is a really |
| 729s | basic example so it's not really that |
| 730s | big of a deal but this is the concept of |
| 733s | of one of the reasons why we don't work |
| 734s | on things like that in in why we choose |
| 737s | to work on things in the order we do |
| 739s | um because it makes less total work |
| 741s | for us which makes the game release |
| 743s | faster is the short answer um |
| 746s | but say you have uh we make a health |
| 750s | globe for |
| 751s | the colorblind gray health health globe |
| 754s | and um |
| 756s | i'm not talking about uh let's mode gray |
| 758s | but like the term gray health |
| 760s | and uh |
| 762s | then we change what the health globe |
| 763s | looks like and it's now a square so now |
| 765s | suddenly we have to make two |
| 768s | um |
| 769s | two health globes for that or health |
| 772s | squares now |
| 773s | uh to represent the two different types |
| 775s | that are there that are in the system |
| 776s | but if we |
| 778s | were 100 locked in on the globe instead |
| 781s | of square |
| 782s | or maybe we switched to square first |
| 784s | then we never make the gray health globe |
| 788s | we only make the great health square |
| 789s | because we did that after |
| 790s | so um |
| 792s | i hope i'm explaining myself well but i |
| 793s | don't feel like i am |
| 795s | this is just one of the reasons why we |
| 797s | do |
| 798s | we pick kind of seemingly weird orders |
| 800s | to do things and sometimes |
| 803s | it's what i'm trying to get at |
| 812s | and it's not that one thing is |
| 813s | necessarily more important than another |
| 815s | thing |
| 816s | it's |
| 818s | the most efficient way to get all of |
| 820s | those things done |
| 822s | for 1.0 release |
| 824s | because that's our that's our goal |
| 825s | that's what everything's |
| 827s | everything's working towards right now |
| 828s | is how fast can we get to one point now |
| 831s | and and the game development doesn't |
| 832s | stop at one point i'll be there at all |
| 834s | like |
| 835s | um |
| 836s | everything keeps going quality life |
| 837s | updates um system changes new content |
| 841s | everything keeps going no pipeline stops |
| 843s | at one point |
| 849s | i have a solution that uh |
| 851s | as well by having |
| 853s | to apply the shade to a million not |
| 855s | already affected by the same type of |
| 856s | shade something like that i don't know |
| 858s | if that would be a possible solution |
| 859s | it's tricky because then you have to so |
| 861s | if you're targeting this the um |
| 865s | when it's going to get the target |
| 867s | it's it's a lot more expensive of a |
| 869s | process to get that target |
| 872s | especially if there's a lot of things |
| 873s | with shades on them already |
| 877s | um and there may be situations it's |
| 879s | idiots |
| 881s | there may be situations where you want |
| 882s | to put on the same thing again anyways i |
| 884s | don't know if that's too much of a |
| 886s | concern at all but |
| 891s | the efficiency of it is possibly a |
| 894s | concern there |
| 904s | efficiency of things is a very important |
| 906s | thing for us right now |
| 916s | if you clicked uh if you clicked group |
| 918s | portrait means oh if you click to group |
| 920s | portrait moves yeah uh yeah and then |
| 922s | that's actually less bad because it's |
| 923s | it's got that group already |
| 931s | it's tricky done picking the one that's |
| 933s | in range |
| 935s | and |
| 935s | like there's |
| 937s | there's a lot of pitfalls there |
| 942s | honestly i know so i can't see that |
| 944s | being a huge priority right now |
| 946s | but it's definitely something that uh we |
| 948s | want to |
| 951s | we want to do |
| 952s | new content past 1.0 confirmed yes |
| 954s | definitely |
| 956s | hi lava how's it going |
| 962s | [Music] |
| 965s | yeah what 1.0 is is uh is not the end by |
| 968s | any means if anyone was uh thinking that |
| 970s | it might be |
| 971s | no |
| 975s | no |
| 976s | the goal is that in 10 years we're still |
| 978s | making content for this game that would |
| 980s | be great |
| 985s | maybe it's last epoch 2 at that point |
| 987s | but |
| 994s | i'd be really happy with that |
| 1006s | what is it oh rainbow |
| 1008s | didn't see any lp on it |
| 1014s | grab it anyways |
| 1020s | sonic 2 is a bad film and i have low |
| 1021s | standards well it might not be forever i |
| 1023s | haven't seen it yet i'm very excited to |
| 1024s | see it |
| 1026s | i hope it's good |
| 1029s | in the category of |
| 1031s | um |
| 1032s | video game movies there's not a lot of |
| 1034s | competition so you know |
| 1036s | it could be good in that context |
| 1040s | there's like five that are actually good |
| 1044s | sonic one being one of them i think |
| 1047s | what else in that kind of detective |
| 1048s | pikachu was good i enjoyed that |
| 1051s | a little weird but it was fun |
| 1054s | [Music] |
| 1063s | i don't think i'd put the warcraft movie |
| 1064s | in that category |
| 1067s | i don't know it's fine oh crosstalk is |
| 1069s | that's a fun weapon |
| 1073s | all right |
| 1074s | another question here from master sword |
| 1075s | 1291 |
| 1077s | i was trying to make a fortress the |
| 1079s | other day was having issues with the |
| 1081s | passive tree i felt like i was forced to |
| 1082s | spend points in nodes i didn't want in |
| 1085s | the lower half of the tree |
| 1086s | and was point starved in the top half |
| 1088s | for nodes i actually want other devs |
| 1091s | plan to make some changes to forge |
| 1092s | retreat i mean so we don't um |
| 1097s | there's |
| 1098s | the answer that question for are there |
| 1100s | plans to make changes to insert class |
| 1101s | name here tree yeah the answer is always |
| 1103s | yes because we're always planning on |
| 1104s | making changes to all of them all the |
| 1106s | time forever |
| 1109s | do we have specific plans for specific |
| 1111s | nodes to fix this specific problem no |
| 1114s | um |
| 1116s | i'm always happy to hear suggestions on |
| 1118s | things like this for sure um what else |
| 1120s | is this oh i don't wanna help you that's |
| 1122s | nice |
| 1123s | um |
| 1126s | but no we don't have any any like hard |
| 1127s | plans for |
| 1129s | for anything like that right now i know |
| 1130s | we are planning on looking at |
| 1132s | uh adding in the threshold nodes for |
| 1135s | more classes so we we um |
| 1137s | in eight four we added a new style of |
| 1140s | passive nodes called threshold nodes |
| 1142s | whereby um at a certain threshold |
| 1146s | you get an extra bonus to that tree so |
| 1148s | it could be like the node just gives |
| 1150s | plus one strength but |
| 1151s | um if you hit five out of ten possible |
| 1154s | points that goes in there uh you get an |
| 1156s | extra 200 health |
| 1161s | um |
| 1165s | and and those are mostly in druid right |
| 1166s | now but i think they're really |
| 1167s | successful and quite popular |
| 1178s | how did i not die there oh my okay we're |
| 1181s | good |
| 1185s | it's really close to eating my own words |
| 1193s | but yeah if you've got like um |
| 1197s | a suggestion for it or like just it |
| 1199s | doesn't feel specific like move this |
| 1201s | node to that node um it can be general |
| 1203s | suggestions it goes great on our forums |
| 1205s | just things like maybe |
| 1207s | describing the scenario you were in and |
| 1213s | maybe if you can come out why like was |
| 1215s | it a specific build you were playing |
| 1217s | i know i know i've heard similar |
| 1219s | feedback with pure throwing builds |
| 1228s | did i find four uniques this uh this one |
| 1231s | echo |
| 1248s | effectively five with that one two three |
| 1250s | four |
| 1251s | yeah |
| 1252s | sweet that's good it was a good one |
| 1259s | i mean |
| 1264s | toss away a bunch of health |
| 1268s | but i do get bleeding physical like |
| 1270s | these physicals is physical right yeah |
| 1277s | you know i might save that and go make a |
| 1278s | legendary out of it do we have an |
| 1279s | exalted belt we can use |
| 1284s | if we can get like exalted health on a |
| 1286s | belt to put on that |
| 1287s | [Music] |
| 1289s | hybrid would be would be the best but |
| 1296s | but yeah these were there was some good |
| 1298s | ones here and look what they were but |
| 1300s | there were some good ones |
| 1305s | anything useless here no nothing's |
| 1306s | useless |
| 1308s | i like that but yes whatever |
| 1316s | take |
| 1317s | care |
| 1319s | experience what |
| 1323s | with regard to the leveling process and |
| 1326s | uh possibly extending the time it takes |
| 1329s | to hit 100 as each of plans for some |
| 1331s | sort of progression fall off that |
| 1332s | happens around 76 or so |
| 1334s | skills fully leveled gears somewhat |
| 1336s | solid notable passives taken yeah and um |
| 1339s | [Music] |
| 1341s | it's sort of that like the point where |
| 1342s | like i guess end game starts to kick in |
| 1345s | um and a lot of our level scaling and uh |
| 1350s | like level scaling curves and unlock |
| 1352s | curves and things like that have been |
| 1355s | uh skewed a little bit based on the |
| 1357s | quantity of end game systems we've had |
| 1360s | up until now |
| 1362s | and we've never felt overly confident in |
| 1364s | the volume of end game systems we've had |
| 1366s | and i think we're starting to feel now |
| 1368s | that it's in a better place where we can |
| 1370s | um |
| 1371s | we can kind of start to treat it more |
| 1373s | like it's a |
| 1375s | a full game's worth of end game content |
| 1377s | to |
| 1378s | to operate on |
| 1380s | not happening |
| 1382s | that makes any sense |
| 1384s | and uh like this arbor key just what |
| 1386s | we're looking for |
| 1390s | always nice to see |
| 1393s | and um |
| 1394s | [Music] |
| 1396s | so i can see some of those other other |
| 1398s | curves changing a little bit |
| 1401s | um but probably not too much |
| 1406s | uh and this is one of those things as |
| 1408s | well that maybe we change one of them |
| 1410s | and it |
| 1411s | is |
| 1412s | it exposes that another one of them |
| 1413s | needs to change alongside it or |
| 1414s | something like that |
| 1416s | and maybe we don't realize that |
| 1417s | immediately and we discovered through |
| 1419s | play testing |
| 1423s | because we haven't got there yet it's uh |
| 1426s | that's what we discovered yet you know |
| 1439s | doing okay in here |
| 1441s | i think i might need to uh take a look |
| 1442s | at my bow i think the bow's falling off |
| 1445s | might be the problem i'm having |
| 1449s | i guess it's too late for march multi |
| 1450s | update will be on for april i don't want |
| 1451s | to guarantee it just because it's not me |
| 1453s | doing it but um |
| 1455s | i uh i would be surprised if we don't |
| 1457s | get one |
| 1461s | it's about the best i can say for you |
| 1463s | there unfortunately |
| 1466s | what level are we at |
| 1469s | still 72. |
| 1470s | just creeping along |
| 1475s | level 85 zones |
| 1477s | why am i so under leveled for the zones |
| 1482s | what happened there |
| 1490s | easy too easy |
| 1493s | it's actually yeah it's a little 85 |
| 1496s | maybe i'm not doing that bad yeah just |
| 1498s | cruising through |
| 1499s | no big deal severely under leveled |
| 1506s | nice build rhymer |
| 1513s | [Music] |
| 1517s | yeah let's go check out a dungeon after |
| 1519s | this echo i think |
| 1520s | and uh maybe get maybe we're gonna focus |
| 1522s | on getting a bow |
| 1524s | and maybe making that belt legendary |
| 1527s | those those be our goals i think is |
| 1529s | there's a new bow soon |
| 1534s | not happening |
| 1544s | i went and played |
| 1545s | magic last night with some of my buddies |
| 1548s | tons of fun don't do that very often so |
| 1550s | it was great |
| 1551s | oh my god i got my ass handed to me |
| 1555s | oh it was bad |
| 1560s | it was bad |
| 1564s | so i made some adjustments this morning |
| 1570s | slapped an extra two pieces of removal |
| 1572s | in every one of my decks |
| 1574s | done |
| 1579s | uh thanks for putting the base items |
| 1581s | like obsidian action which supports |
| 1582s | melee similar type primeless glad |
| 1584s | there's a lot of variety you're welcome |
| 1586s | we do try to get as much variety in |
| 1588s | there and end games and in-game items |
| 1590s | and that's something that'll continue to |
| 1592s | expand as well |
| 1594s | um like every element is up for |
| 1599s | expansions and improvements down the |
| 1601s | road it's just a matter of when |
| 1606s | sometimes it'll be |
| 1607s | maybe a new unique that spurs on a new |
| 1609s | base type maybe it'll be a new |
| 1612s | chapter that'll |
| 1615s | make that make sense when there's like a |
| 1616s | new timeline or you know |
| 1619s | a new location or something you know |
| 1621s | that makes it make sense to have a new |
| 1623s | type or maybe there's |
| 1625s | like a new class that comes in that |
| 1626s | needs new types or maybe there's |
| 1628s | so many things that can trigger so many |
| 1629s | other things like that |
| 1644s | nice little chaos in there |
| 1646s | take that |
| 1648s | does he hg plan to add support for |
| 1650s | spells in spellblade trees so that |
| 1652s | spells can be viable with spellblade at |
| 1654s | any point in development |
| 1656s | maybe it's so hard to answer these like |
| 1658s | do we ever plan to do this because the |
| 1659s | answer is almost always just well maybe |
| 1663s | maybe |
| 1664s | um |
| 1667s | there is this sort of like |
| 1670s | disconnect so spells in general are more |
| 1674s | like longer range spells that are |
| 1676s | designed for sorcerer and runemaster |
| 1679s | will fall more in that category as well |
| 1681s | probably i would say likely kind of |
| 1683s | assuming there um |
| 1685s | but i mean you do get |
| 1690s | like |
| 1694s | the melee abilities are in a way spells |
| 1696s | but they're like they're not tagged as |
| 1698s | spells it's the big difference really |
| 1701s | that makes any sense |
| 1721s | i think too much |
| 1723s | variety sometimes can cause |
| 1726s | like a loss of class identity |
| 1731s | like as soon as it can do everything it |
| 1732s | can really do anything |
| 1737s | unless it actually can do everything |
| 1741s | like a d2 paladin do anything |
| 1758s | uh was the ability to skip the gun |
| 1759s | chapter be a sanctum something you |
| 1760s | intentionally designed or thought about |
| 1762s | yeah it's one of the cornerstones of |
| 1764s | dungeons is having a |
| 1766s | content skip in the campaign |
| 1768s | and and all the dungeons have a have a |
| 1770s | campaign skip associated with them |
| 1771s | specifically so that |
| 1774s | on follow-up characters you don't |
| 1776s | necessarily have to |
| 1778s | run the entire campaign every single |
| 1780s | time you |
| 1781s | uh you start a new character so that you |
| 1783s | can you can speed that up and you can |
| 1785s | customize that campaign experience so if |
| 1787s | there's like a boss that's particularly |
| 1789s | difficult for the class you're playing |
| 1791s | um you can skip it maybe this boss is |
| 1792s | particularly easy for the boss you're |
| 1794s | playing and you can intentionally go to |
| 1795s | that one |
| 1796s | so yes that was |
| 1797s | very intentionally designed and is one |
| 1799s | of the primary reasons for dungeons |
| 1801s | existing in the way they do |
| 1809s | uh did you try to facetank all their |
| 1811s | attacks and magic as well i mean i |
| 1813s | didn't try to |
| 1815s | uh but it just kind of happened |
| 1832s | no i don't know what happened it was |
| 1833s | just a nuts night like |
| 1835s | over the course of three games i played |
| 1836s | seven spells |
| 1838s | it was bad |
| 1842s | usually usually our games take like |
| 1844s | three hours per |
| 1850s | you know we're we're usually playing |
| 1852s | pretty low power stuff we're just |
| 1853s | hanging out having fun |
| 1860s | but everyone said all the stars just the |
| 1862s | line you know |
| 1868s | adjustments equals bought a time walk |
| 1871s | and some boxes online |
| 1873s | no i added like |
| 1876s | you know i'd making an anguish on making |
| 1879s | to |
| 1880s | my orizov deck and i added a |
| 1883s | like a chaos warp and a generous gift to |
| 1885s | my boro stack and i added a |
| 1888s | um |
| 1889s | you know things like that |
| 1894s | good good removal spells but not power |
| 1896s | nine stuff you know |
| 1919s | no lands were not the problem |
| 1922s | one of the games was over on turn four |
| 1938s | we we play a weird variant called |
| 1940s | kingdoms |
| 1942s | and um |
| 1946s | there's there's |
| 1947s | a different victory conditions for each |
| 1950s | player so one one person |
| 1952s | has like uh like if you kill this one |
| 1954s | person you just win the game's just over |
| 1956s | immediately so you know this person and |
| 1958s | uh so someone had |
| 1961s | a sudden substitution and a final |
| 1962s | fortune |
| 1963s | and so they cast final fortune and use |
| 1966s | sudden substitution to give final |
| 1968s | fortune to the person they had to kill |
| 1970s | and that person got an extra turn but |
| 1972s | the final fortune reads at the end of |
| 1975s | that extra turn you lose the game so |
| 1976s | because they gave them final fortune |
| 1978s | at the end of that turn they lost the |
| 1980s | game |
| 1981s | and it was just over |
| 1988s | sweet combo |
| 1998s | mike luke dropped sound puck when |
| 2000s | loot drop sound pack when my |
| 2004s | filters need some spikes yeah that's |
| 2006s | something that gets asked about fairly |
| 2007s | frequently um it's not actively in |
| 2009s | development but um it's something we've |
| 2011s | talked about and something we we think |
| 2013s | we'd probably like to do |
| 2015s | it's really |
| 2016s | it's a tricky one to implement and |
| 2018s | there's a lot of pitfalls and a lot of |
| 2020s | gotchas that are involved with that so |
| 2021s | we're |
| 2022s | being careful with it |
| 2026s | [Music] |
| 2034s | part of the problem with it one of one |
| 2035s | of the biggest problems is there's there |
| 2037s | needs to be a limit with how frequently |
| 2039s | the sounds can play |
| 2041s | so whether that is |
| 2043s | the rule needs to be restrictive enough |
| 2045s | that the rate that that object usually |
| 2047s | drops at |
| 2048s | is |
| 2050s | um |
| 2052s | like |
| 2055s | low enough such that you don't hear that |
| 2057s | drop sound very often if it's some like |
| 2060s | item dropped item dropped item dropped |
| 2063s | uh sound effect you know |
| 2065s | then |
| 2066s | it it's got it can't play every every |
| 2069s | time gold drops because |
| 2071s | that would be unbelievably annoying |
| 2074s | so there needs to be some sort of either |
| 2075s | restriction on what you can put it on |
| 2077s | or just built in way too |
| 2079s | um |
| 2080s | like the obvious things also suppose on |
| 2082s | anything but just only play it every x |
| 2083s | second so |
| 2084s | just if it's played in the last second |
| 2086s | don't play it again yeah that works for |
| 2087s | sure but part of the reason why you want |
| 2090s | to have |
| 2091s | these sound packs the sound effects for |
| 2093s | item drops is so that um |
| 2097s | when you |
| 2098s | when when one of these items drops maybe |
| 2100s | it's off screen you don't notice it you |
| 2102s | hear it still and then you know to look |
| 2103s | around for something |
| 2106s | so if two of these items drop |
| 2108s | basically back to back the same time |
| 2112s | another lightless arbor key that's |
| 2114s | awesome |
| 2117s | tumen strength |
| 2119s | i mean you could chaos that health regen |
| 2121s | out of there and |
| 2123s | some decent decent jewish gloves anyways |
| 2125s | um |
| 2128s | i'm trying to say the oh you have two of |
| 2130s | them dropping syndrome so say like a |
| 2131s | unique item drops at my feet right here |
| 2134s | and simultaneously a unique item drops |
| 2136s | off screen |
| 2137s | um and only one sound plays you pick up |
| 2140s | the one at your feet and you don't know |
| 2142s | the one off screen played because |
| 2144s | it's too far away right so just having a |
| 2146s | flat like it can only play so often |
| 2149s | there's there's ways it doesn't work and |
| 2151s | i know that the it would still be better |
| 2153s | than not having it probably but if you |
| 2155s | come to rely on on that sound and you |
| 2158s | never check for anything otherwise you |
| 2160s | just it's it's like i didn't hear the |
| 2162s | sound and drop or i heard the sound and |
| 2163s | i picked something up therefore there's |
| 2164s | nothing else |
| 2166s | um |
| 2167s | you can actually end up missing more |
| 2169s | items than you would without the sounds |
| 2173s | so trying to figure out ways to do that |
| 2175s | and uh |
| 2180s | have that be good |
| 2183s | not happening |
| 2188s | just got shrines working in multiplayer |
| 2191s | that was sweet |
| 2195s | it's making it's making getting through |
| 2196s | uh |
| 2197s | your stuff a lot easier now the shrines |
| 2199s | are working again |
| 2209s | picking up those shrines just reminding |
| 2210s | me of it i'm gonna get like full bonus |
| 2212s | for this one i'm killing so many things |
| 2216s | just happened incidentally that's great |
| 2219s | well i take my time anyways but yeah |
| 2227s | all the bonus for mike |
| 2233s | okay after this one we're gonna go to uh |
| 2236s | a dungeon or two i think |
| 2242s | 73 is still |
| 2245s | i think we're still in sort of a weird |
| 2246s | spot for the dungeons |
| 2250s | we'll see |
| 2255s | i think zakar wants you to be the voice |
| 2257s | that's his sound pack |
| 2258s | like you're congratulating on sweet loot |
| 2260s | drops |
| 2261s | excellent find |
| 2263s | you know things like that |
| 2270s | nice unique bruh |
| 2274s | supports the hammers going through this |
| 2276s | let's go to uh |
| 2278s | oh yeah there's this now |
| 2281s | uh this is great so if you have a key |
| 2283s | and you right click on the key it just |
| 2285s | opens the map and takes you to |
| 2288s | where you need to portal to |
| 2290s | i love it |
| 2292s | love it |
| 2298s | human you can hear me |
| 2301s | yeah i can hear you |
| 2308s | you saw what i uh it's like |
| 2313s | every drop |
| 2315s | uh talking about shrines i seem to |
| 2316s | recall they used to give their bonuses |
| 2318s | to both player and their minions but the |
| 2321s | latter part is no longer mentioned uh |
| 2323s | any reason why there was some problems |
| 2325s | with the becoming incredibly overpowered |
| 2327s | for minion builds |
| 2328s | um |
| 2330s | so we had to remove it unfortunately |
| 2335s | prism wraps are always kind of good just |
| 2337s | just just kind of good |
| 2343s | all right |
| 2348s | let's |
| 2349s | go |
| 2351s | yeah like this little 88 that's the |
| 2353s | thing yeah we're right in the middle |
| 2354s | where 65 is kind of low |
| 2356s | and 88 is kind of high |
| 2361s | do i do i try for the 88 one probably |
| 2363s | just get my butt handed to me let's go |
| 2365s | to this one just |
| 2366s | so i can actually do it take my level |
| 2369s | first though actually |
| 2373s | doing here i think |
| 2397s | just hammer through this and |
| 2399s | get something sweet |
| 2413s | sweet that follows any when you throw it |
| 2415s | out |
| 2422s | those hurt surprisingly a lot |
| 2444s | 98 i lost some new |
| 2448s | it's okay |
| 2450s | we'll get through it |
| 2465s | i like the art on that axe the like the |
| 2466s | inner inner um |
| 2469s | inner jaw it's hard to see um |
| 2472s | come on really |
| 2475s | yeah there we go oh |
| 2477s | there we go |
| 2485s | gonna stay no it's not whatever |
| 2493s | i really want to wait to get the uh |
| 2497s | what am i doing |
| 2501s | i forgot about the mechanics here for a |
| 2503s | second uh the |
| 2506s | like art being displayed on larger |
| 2508s | frames |
| 2509s | for items to be able to like show off |
| 2511s | what they look like and inspect the art |
| 2513s | closer i think it'll be really really |
| 2514s | good |
| 2527s | all right let's get through this bad boy |
| 2529s | where are we going |
| 2538s | let's find an amber to |
| 2540s | pop |
| 2547s | all right another question here i'm |
| 2548s | doing this |
| 2551s | do you plan to do something regarding |
| 2553s | dungeon key drops i believe there's a |
| 2555s | large demand for increasing the drop |
| 2556s | rate and adding to echo rewards um |
| 2563s | i don't know we we might do we might |
| 2565s | increase the rate um we won't be |
| 2567s | increasing the rate for patch eight five |
| 2569s | um |
| 2573s | like we're definitely hearing the |
| 2574s | feedback that people want them to be |
| 2576s | higher um i don't know if it's actually |
| 2579s | good for the game if they're if they are |
| 2580s | higher and good for the play experience |
| 2582s | that they are um |
| 2584s | it might be it might not be we really |
| 2586s | want more data on it and want to uh |
| 2590s | let the patch cycle play a little bit |
| 2592s | longer before we make a decision on it |
| 2594s | basically |
| 2595s | um |
| 2598s | like i i i know it's not um |
| 2602s | much |
| 2603s | like |
| 2604s | it's anecdotal evidence and it's a tiny |
| 2606s | tiny sample size but like it's it's not |
| 2609s | some |
| 2610s | they're impossible to find and no one's |
| 2612s | finding them at all because like |
| 2613s | as we can see tonight i've already have |
| 2616s | already found two |
| 2617s | i like the sarbar keys and and we've |
| 2619s | been going for 43 minutes |
| 2629s | so some people might be getting really |
| 2630s | unlucky and it's possible there needs to |
| 2632s | be a |
| 2634s | more like deterministic way and that's |
| 2635s | that's a good point why you bring it up |
| 2637s | in that adding it to a reward |
| 2640s | for a specific thing |
| 2644s | where you can target them a little bit |
| 2645s | better that might that might be what |
| 2647s | needs to happen i don't know |
| 2649s | but um |
| 2651s | they're gonna stick where they are |
| 2653s | for at least a little while |
| 2675s | thoughts on arena key memory echo |
| 2676s | rewards being replaced instead with |
| 2678s | random key or dungeon key yeah okay so |
| 2680s | similar thing |
| 2683s | i that's that's probably a pretty good |
| 2685s | idea |
| 2686s | um |
| 2690s | like i said it's probably not gonna |
| 2691s | happen for this patch cycle |
| 2693s | but um |
| 2694s | if if we do do something doo doo uh then |
| 2697s | it'll likely be that |
| 2699s | i think |
| 2702s | it could be wrong |
| 2718s | whoa |
| 2719s | whoa whoa |
| 2720s | whoa |
| 2723s | oh nice exalted quiver there |
| 2725s | what is that what's it going going on |
| 2728s | oh not terrible |
| 2733s | didn't really |
| 2734s | stand out on that but you know |
| 2753s | get these guys down |
| 2758s | douglas hello |
| 2761s | how are you today |
| 2769s | run into walls |
| 2771s | they just look like they needed a friend |
| 2774s | you know |
| 2789s | oh i took a couple hits down to 95 that |
| 2792s | won't do |
| 2795s | 85 oh i'm slipping |
| 2817s | uh do you all track any analytics on |
| 2820s | skill usage |
| 2821s | um |
| 2823s | not very detailed really |
| 2826s | um we do a little bit of stuff with that |
| 2828s | but it's uh |
| 2831s | not not really |
| 2836s | um |
| 2837s | you can probably get just as good of an |
| 2839s | idea or similar idea from like |
| 2841s | looking at the |
| 2843s | uh like build guide pages and and the |
| 2846s | ladder |
| 2847s | will probably give you just about as |
| 2848s | good of an idea with that |
| 2852s | it's pretty representative |
| 2863s | where's an amber gonna find an ember get |
| 2865s | this give us 85 back to 100 what's going |
| 2867s | on here huh |
| 2889s | uh who of the characters would eat |
| 2891s | pineapple on pizza |
| 2893s | if |
| 2895s | if one was offered to them i mean i |
| 2897s | would assume all of them because |
| 2900s | they probably have never experienced |
| 2901s | pizza in general |
| 2904s | um so they don't have any like |
| 2905s | preconceived notions about what's good |
| 2907s | and bad and they probably want to make |
| 2908s | their own decisions up |
| 2911s | once they taste the glory that is |
| 2913s | pineapple on pizza |
| 2915s | they be hooked |
| 2929s | runes let's do it |
| 2944s | human |
| 2945s | you must i was growing by a terror |
| 2952s | [Music] |
| 2962s | oh |
| 2964s | that's my face |
| 2969s | i may have forgot that i did that |
| 2974s | [Music] |
| 2996s | just hide out in here |
| 3001s | here we go |
| 3021s | that was close |
| 3022s | i typed that so |
| 3025s | well oh what am i doing |
| 3052s | get a little get a little cocky on this |
| 3054s | because i'm uh |
| 3056s | so overleveled |
| 3075s | there we go |
| 3078s | no problem |
| 3082s | get the boots those are nice boots |
| 3090s | really much for endurance unfortunately |
| 3092s | but you know |
| 3093s | so good |
| 3095s | okay |
| 3098s | add the chest to drop several exalted |
| 3100s | items |
| 3101s | ah yeah |
| 3103s | several idols yeah i'm really big on the |
| 3105s | others right now i don't exalted i don't |
| 3106s | just yes please |
| 3108s | set item yeah only good for sets |
| 3112s | sure |
| 3114s | sure |
| 3116s | [Music] |
| 3118s | special glyph is written |
| 3121s | all items from a random chest additive |
| 3123s | for the duplication that's expensive |
| 3125s | let's go with it unique weapon oh we |
| 3127s | really want a bow |
| 3138s | completes every chest okay this is the |
| 3139s | last one we're gonna take |
| 3145s | just |
| 3146s | burning through huge amounts of cash |
| 3150s | i know i've got a weird amount of cash |
| 3152s | here i'm trying to be reasonable with it |
| 3155s | uh we might do some of these boots i |
| 3157s | don't know |
| 3165s | that's what i'm talking about |
| 3168s | oh |
| 3169s | yes |
| 3173s | oh my |
| 3175s | oh my |
| 3178s | it's all just these are all swords as |
| 3179s | well these are all swords |
| 3182s | minion throwing |
| 3185s | minion |
| 3188s | health converted award minion |
| 3191s | grit two-hander minion |
| 3196s | a lot of swords |
| 3199s | daggers and |
| 3203s | oof |
| 3211s | is there a shop here so we can just like |
| 3214s | dump this stuff |
| 3220s | that's when we're playing our uh |
| 3228s | sentinel |
| 3237s | i think i just want to throw it all away |
| 3238s | is the problem |
| 3242s | oh yeah this is just |
| 3244s | spirit thorns |
| 3246s | which is cool but |
| 3248s | right |
| 3250s | there's a button we have in our dev |
| 3252s | tools that's just clear ground items so |
| 3253s | just like nukes all the items off the |
| 3255s | ground i was i just like went to press |
| 3256s | it and like uh it's it's not here whoops |
| 3269s | anything left to spoil today i don't |
| 3271s | have any i'm sorry i don't have any |
| 3272s | spoilers for you today |
| 3274s | um if you are here just for that i'll |
| 3276s | let you know right now so you're not |
| 3277s | disappointed but uh i'd love you to stay |
| 3279s | still |
| 3280s | oh the lp team of elvis that's nice |
| 3285s | i just don't want these to like ah take |
| 3287s | up all the space there's so |
| 3289s | much space on the ground |
| 3291s | so some stuff that's going to drop here |
| 3295s | we'll dump it all over here |
| 3297s | oh we got a couple bows i'm going to |
| 3299s | look at these |
| 3300s | and it's blasting me i don't care |
| 3303s | they should |
| 3305s | throwing uh |
| 3309s | this exalted health on a chest they |
| 3311s | could pull that off something |
| 3325s | yeah |
| 3326s | not for us unfortunately |
| 3337s | oh there's there's a bow for us at least |
| 3341s | i might have to drop something |
| 3346s | not a ton of useful gear i'll tell you |
| 3349s | what |
| 3352s | nice health that we could pull off for |
| 3361s | something do you just like this weapon |
| 3364s | it's cool |
| 3374s | they're working on that eric's bones |
| 3380s | might have to drop might have to drop |
| 3382s | something |
| 3384s | that really did not go as well as i'd |
| 3386s | hoped |
| 3389s | it's too bad |
| 3391s | okay |
| 3403s | no nice bad |
| 3414s | increased health resulted belt we can |
| 3416s | make that |
| 3417s | belt yeah let's go make a belt |
| 3424s | what let me look |
| 3426s | yeah |
| 3430s | temple saint |
| 3443s | not sure how the stuff picked back up |
| 3445s | again did i do that i must have |
| 3449s | all right and some more questions how do |
| 3451s | y'all prioritize which skills get looked |
| 3453s | at or changed great question and do you |
| 3455s | identify court issues with the skills |
| 3457s | and address those are trying to fix |
| 3458s | around the core design that's skin |
| 3460s | initially was made with i mean uh both |
| 3463s | really depends on the situation so |
| 3465s | uh |
| 3467s | if there's an item with like |
| 3470s | i really should look at these bows |
| 3472s | i'll look at them later |
| 3477s | ah |
| 3480s | i could just do this but i want to mess |
| 3482s | up my like |
| 3484s | key section that's why we need a key |
| 3486s | ring |
| 3488s | or just have them stack |
| 3496s | 80. that'll be tough we can do it |
| 3499s | i believe in us |
| 3501s | um how do y'all prioritize which skills |
| 3503s | get looked at and identify the core |
| 3504s | issues the skills and address those or |
| 3507s | trying to fix around the core design of |
| 3508s | the skill was initially made with so um |
| 3512s | i'll give an example of both of those |
| 3514s | actually |
| 3519s | um so for example |
| 3522s | uh |
| 3523s | i would say that |
| 3524s | teleport has some |
| 3526s | pretty significant |
| 3528s | skill tree problems |
| 3531s | um |
| 3532s | but that skill |
| 3534s | the core design of it's not going |
| 3536s | anywhere that's it's a it's extremely |
| 3537s | iconic for that um |
| 3539s | class archetype uh it's also really |
| 3542s | important to have a solid movement skill |
| 3544s | um you know like like teleport space |
| 3547s | functionality is not getting changed |
| 3548s | i am not going to survive this there's |
| 3551s | no way |
| 3552s | uh |
| 3553s | [Music] |
| 3557s | and |
| 3559s | uh so yeah so we |
| 3561s | when we're looking at reworking teleport |
| 3563s | we're looking at specifically the |
| 3566s | um |
| 3568s | the the skill tree keeping the base |
| 3570s | functionality intact |
| 3571s | and we're interested in improving the |
| 3573s | skill tree improving the skill |
| 3575s | functionality and and just improving |
| 3576s | what's already there instead of |
| 3578s | replacing what's already there |
| 3581s | um |
| 3583s | an example of a skill that |
| 3585s | is well which i don't know what's |
| 3587s | happening with this skill yet because |
| 3588s | it's it was it is struggling from a from |
| 3591s | a more core standpoint it says volatile |
| 3593s | reversal |
| 3595s | so it is |
| 3597s | um |
| 3598s | it's a tricky skill to make feel good to |
| 3601s | use |
| 3602s | and be intuitive |
| 3604s | and be unique and actually be useful |
| 3607s | all at the same time because it's it is |
| 3609s | so weird of a skill and and i know they |
| 3611s | have lots of different versions of it |
| 3612s | lots of different in most different |
| 3614s | games like the example has a version of |
| 3615s | it now that's um very similar |
| 3620s | uh |
| 3622s | and and like league of legends has one |
| 3624s | and |
| 3625s | uh |
| 3628s | overwatch has one |
| 3629s | and |
| 3631s | i'm sure there's more i'm forgetting but |
| 3633s | there's there's there's a lot of it's |
| 3635s | not it's not an uncommon mechanic as a |
| 3636s | whole |
| 3637s | um but getting it to function nicely in |
| 3639s | an arpg with |
| 3642s | like specific control schemes and |
| 3644s | getting multiplayer involved and and you |
| 3646s | know all these things is |
| 3648s | tricky to say the least |
| 3657s | and so uh |
| 3658s | with that it's possible that we could |
| 3660s | rework the base functionality of it to |
| 3661s | be slightly different there's lots of |
| 3663s | different versions we've talked about um |
| 3665s | over the over the years on on how to |
| 3667s | change that base functionality what it |
| 3669s | would become and we're not really set on |
| 3671s | maybe we won't change it at all as well |
| 3673s | but like |
| 3674s | so so i guess it really depends is the |
| 3676s | answer to that |
| 3678s | the other half of that question was how |
| 3679s | do we decide which skills need to be |
| 3681s | worked on |
| 3682s | um |
| 3683s | it's it's a lot of it's a feel thing |
| 3686s | there there are some like numbers that |
| 3688s | come into it um but a lot of it's just a |
| 3691s | feel |
| 3692s | and a lot of that comes from um |
| 3694s | anecdotal feedback |
| 3696s | uh and i'm talking about power uh |
| 3698s | shifting and power reworks but like |
| 3700s | functional reworks |
| 3702s | and um |
| 3703s | and like changing a skill tree things |
| 3705s | like that a lot of that comes from just |
| 3707s | how does it feel |
| 3709s | feedback that we get |
| 3712s | and we do look at things like |
| 3715s | you know analytics on on how many people |
| 3717s | are playing certain skills in different |
| 3718s | situations and things like that so |
| 3720s | there's there is a little bit of a |
| 3723s | um |
| 3724s | how is this possible from different |
| 3726s | sources |
| 3727s | should be able to command time here |
| 3731s | and yet |
| 3732s | here we are |
| 3734s | um |
| 3737s | yeah so the the way we |
| 3739s | figure out which skills we're going to |
| 3741s | replace or or rework or you know any of |
| 3744s | those things or just update in general a |
| 3745s | lot of it comes down to feel uh some |
| 3747s | there's some numbers associated with it |
| 3749s | in the sense of like you can look at |
| 3751s | certain skill trees i don't think |
| 3752s | there's any good examples on road |
| 3753s | because they're all actually pretty good |
| 3754s | yeah um |
| 3758s | but on things like |
| 3759s | um |
| 3762s | druid primeless beastmaster things like |
| 3765s | that there's um someone say routine |
| 3767s | someone bear which which have nodes that |
| 3769s | are |
| 3770s | not great nodes |
| 3772s | and they're |
| 3773s | like |
| 3774s | sometimes it's just age |
| 3776s | um |
| 3778s | oh hey |
| 3781s | i mean |
| 3790s | i mean i know we're all about the dots |
| 3792s | do we just |
| 3796s | that might actually be worth worse |
| 3797s | because we are all about the dots |
| 3804s | oh let's see how it feels so she doesn't |
| 3805s | see how it feels |
| 3819s | silver pretty similar |
| 3820s | um |
| 3825s | what was i saying oh yeah feel oh you |
| 3826s | have a quantity so there's like the node |
| 3828s | there's |
| 3829s | there's a few metrics with skill trees |
| 3831s | that we look at um |
| 3832s | total number of nodes should be roughly |
| 3834s | around 30. |
| 3836s | uh |
| 3837s | the |
| 3838s | points per node should never go above |
| 3840s | five |
| 3841s | um |
| 3842s | and then we have a few metrics on like |
| 3844s | average number of points |
| 3846s | you can spend in the tree total number |
| 3848s | of points you can spend on the tree |
| 3850s | um |
| 3851s | so there's a few things in there like um |
| 3853s | average connection values and we try and |
| 3856s | keep them all pretty similar to each |
| 3857s | other and some trees are obviously more |
| 3859s | than others and that's fine but |
| 3861s | there's sort of a range we try and keep |
| 3862s | all those numbers in |
| 3865s | and if that is if any of those numbers |
| 3867s | are really far out of whack without |
| 3869s | having a really good reason for it |
| 3871s | oh i definitely tried to use the time |
| 3874s | travel |
| 3876s | that's frustrating i must have used |
| 3877s | another ability by mistake |
| 3879s | that's too bad |
| 3885s | it's weird that brings you back here |
| 3893s | poisonously crippled yeah |
| 3900s | yeah that flat added damage is just so |
| 3902s | far out of what we want |
| 3905s | looking for bleed mostly |
| 3907s | and the poison's nice but yeah that |
| 3909s | bleed base is good |
| 3931s | you know |
| 3949s | actually you know what let's discover it |
| 3951s | just discover it |
| 3959s | chaos it |
| 3962s | blue |
| 3968s | poison duration |
| 3970s | i mean |
| 3973s | sure i guess |
| 3979s | oh great those actually bad |
| 3982s | endurance let's keep the endurance sure |
| 3990s | you know what i like that helmet more |
| 3996s | we're gonna we're gonna roll with it |
| 4005s | we're not good enough to light this |
| 4006s | arbor like that let's try soul fire |
| 4011s | let's try so far see what level see what |
| 4013s | level we got we're looking at um |
| 4016s | i think that was i think it went over |
| 4017s | the plus skills thing |
| 4018s | in its entirety hey okay it's a chat |
| 4028s | i'm also very interested in getting the |
| 4031s | architectural deep dive for your |
| 4033s | multiplayer implementation from stan's |
| 4034s | work i mean the the underlying |
| 4036s | architecture |
| 4038s | probably won't go into too much of a |
| 4042s | into too many details on just because |
| 4045s | there's some stuff there that's |
| 4049s | not really appropriate to share |
| 4053s | i have to get some souls first |
| 4066s | body armor already |
| 4073s | don't need to look at that really |
| 4084s | thinking my old though may have been |
| 4085s | better |
| 4087s | see still |
| 4096s | oh yeah i'll stand in the fire yay fire |
| 4099s | it's so warm |
| 4100s | it's great you get like |
| 4102s | like a nice little tan |
| 4108s | bring some bread and cheese make a |
| 4109s | grilled cheese on my |
| 4111s | on my boots |
| 4124s | oh |
| 4125s | okay let's find another question to |
| 4127s | answer only ground item nuke in live |
| 4130s | version when |
| 4133s | another thing i believe you spoke on |
| 4135s | trade in some vague manner in a prior |
| 4137s | stream yeah we've talked about it |
| 4139s | uh do you plan to have one of those one |
| 4141s | person's trash in the person's treasure |
| 4143s | type approach to trade |
| 4145s | i i don't really understand that uh not |
| 4147s | sure if we are just speculating beyond |
| 4149s | you meant in the past phrasing |
| 4152s | what you meant in the past phrasing um |
| 4157s | i mean the |
| 4162s | i so i don't understand the |
| 4164s | trash treasure phrasing |
| 4166s | uh |
| 4170s | there there will be |
| 4172s | probably some well they say there's |
| 4174s | there will be some way |
| 4175s | to |
| 4176s | oh and dallas thank you very much that |
| 4179s | is looks like 10. |
| 4183s | thank you very much for getting 10 subs |
| 4185s | the channel |
| 4186s | if anyone got one of those congrats for |
| 4188s | that |
| 4192s | some names in there i recognize |
| 4196s | uh we're gonna try so far again because |
| 4198s | i just |
| 4199s | wasn't paying attention |
| 4201s | properly |
| 4204s | i think i think what i said with trading |
| 4206s | in the past was that there will be some |
| 4208s | way to take some item that |
| 4210s | uh |
| 4211s | you have that someone else wants and |
| 4214s | they'll be able to acquire it in some |
| 4215s | manner and hopefully some way to acquire |
| 4219s | items other than like from other people |
| 4222s | collecting them in the world or |
| 4223s | something like that it was super vague i |
| 4224s | was as |
| 4226s | i think i know what you're talking about |
| 4227s | i think it was just i was trying to say |
| 4230s | uh trading in the most vague way |
| 4232s | possible so it didn't imply anything |
| 4234s | about how the trading would work |
| 4236s | just there would be no way to speculate |
| 4238s | on anything because it's so vague |
| 4245s | that's all that was |
| 4255s | shift was just on cooldown i just stayed |
| 4257s | there i'm like yeah i can shift out |
| 4258s | still |
| 4259s | go to shift nothing |
| 4265s | uh i'm gonna stop embarrassing myself |
| 4268s | and uh |
| 4270s | we're gonna go get better |
| 4273s | let me get good here |
| 4275s | all right mike time to get the whole ass |
| 4277s | out thank you thank you whoever did that |
| 4279s | that's exactly what i needed |
| 4282s | also perma-stunned it looks like |
| 4292s | yeah yeah sabretooth um yeah eight point |
| 4294s | node yeah fireball has an eight point |
| 4296s | node i think still |
| 4298s | um it's actually a pretty good tree |
| 4299s | though so there's not a lot to be done |
| 4301s | there but yeah |
| 4303s | sabretooth is the other go-to example i |
| 4304s | use with bear |
| 4316s | got my little my um my special vfx my |
| 4320s | special halo vfx here |
| 4331s | oh it's right there |
| 4334s | get big here i just want to chat |
| 4337s | not gonna hurt you |
| 4339s | maybe a little bit but you'll like it |
| 4341s | don't worry |
| 4346s | well not happening |
| 4348s | i don't like it but you know yeah we'll |
| 4350s | see |
| 4352s | you don't blow it up yourself for huh |
| 4356s | any eta on |
| 4358s | zero cool down sork inspired teleport |
| 4360s | reworked for mage i mean there's no way |
| 4363s | we can make a zero cool down sork |
| 4365s | teleport |
| 4368s | okay uh it was this like cursed request |
| 4371s | granted but it costs 4 000 mana to use |
| 4384s | or granted but it costs double whatever |
| 4386s | your whatever your total man your max |
| 4387s | mana is so after using it once you go so |
| 4390s | negative that you have to regen mana so |
| 4392s | the cooldown being zero is irrelevant |
| 4395s | you know |
| 4402s | no we're not we're not gonna do zero |
| 4404s | cooldown |
| 4405s | uh |
| 4406s | teleport |
| 4417s | i think zero cooldown teleport is one of |
| 4419s | the biggest mistakes this is gonna be uh |
| 4422s | possibly an unpopular |
| 4424s | opinion but whatever i think zero |
| 4426s | cooldown teleport is one of the biggest |
| 4428s | mistakes that diablo 2 made |
| 4433s | sorry |
| 4436s | one of if not my favorite game of all |
| 4437s | time |
| 4440s | not perfect |
| 4451s | uh yeah i wonder mostly how it was |
| 4454s | weighted because there are quite a few |
| 4455s | skills that are outdated and don't align |
| 4458s | with new design philosophy you guys have |
| 4459s | yeah they touch less frequently this |
| 4461s | gives us a lot of insight yeah and okay |
| 4463s | so there's there's other things that |
| 4464s | that influence it as well um |
| 4466s | so for example the model for |
| 4470s | uh bone golem i know we've teased new |
| 4472s | bone golem models |
| 4474s | um |
| 4476s | but we haven't |
| 4478s | it's not it's not out yet and bone |
| 4479s | golems is another tree that could use |
| 4481s | some work |
| 4484s | um the vongola model is not ready yet |
| 4486s | and |
| 4490s | a lot of the animation work |
| 4495s | and things like that are reliant on the |
| 4496s | skill tree so we do them at the same |
| 4498s | time |
| 4501s | uh so so with |
| 4504s | we can't really do we could but it this |
| 4507s | is what i was talking about earlier |
| 4507s | about a prioritizing work so we do less |
| 4509s | total work overall |
| 4510s | um if we do a bunch of work on the bone |
| 4512s | golem tree and make it and we're like |
| 4515s | okay we want to build this system but |
| 4517s | then it comes out that |
| 4518s | the the art for it was doesn't line up |
| 4520s | or something like that or or someone |
| 4522s | builds something for the art that looks |
| 4524s | amazing we're like okay we gotta take |
| 4525s | advantage of this now then we're gonna |
| 4526s | go back into the tree |
| 4528s | and rework it |
| 4530s | um so we we we try and work on them it's |
| 4532s | more more closely and similar timing |
| 4534s | sometimes to to help with that |
| 4538s | with the saber-tooth |
| 4551s | oh i actually clicked on a ping in |
| 4552s | discord and now i'm sitting in a channel |
| 4554s | that has a lot of talking in it |
| 4557s | and it keeps distracting me |
| 4564s | it's just the worst right can you |
| 4565s | imagine anything worse |
| 4566s | really |
| 4570s | there we go fixed |
| 4574s | uh is issue still working on the crit we |
| 4576s | work you alluded to a couple months back |
| 4578s | just wondering if it's something that's |
| 4579s | being experimented on yes we're still |
| 4581s | working on it |
| 4582s | i jumped the gun a little bit by telling |
| 4583s | you guys about it because uh |
| 4586s | it's it's it was further out than i |
| 4588s | thought i thought we were closer to |
| 4589s | doing it |
| 4591s | uh we hit a little snag but it's |
| 4593s | being worked through and |
| 4599s | i'm confident we'll still see it |
| 4602s | it's not as early as i thought |
| 4618s | taken |
| 4619s | down |
| 4628s | there's that 10 gifted sub yeah that's |
| 4630s | how far back i am wow |
| 4631s | uh uh it was phrased in an interesting |
| 4634s | manner that left us speculating |
| 4635s | something like a global trade hall that |
| 4637s | was sort of a collection of soldiers oh |
| 4639s | i'm sorry guys that was not my intention |
| 4645s | sorry to finish that the idea was uh |
| 4648s | the idea sounded interesting but far too |
| 4650s | difficult for me to understand yeah it |
| 4651s | was i was i was really not describing |
| 4654s | anything specific i was trying to be |
| 4656s | like there there's gonna be a way that |
| 4658s | items will change hands |
| 4660s | it's the most broad definition of a |
| 4662s | trade system i could possibly think of |
| 4667s | agree with you on teleport yeah it's |
| 4671s | instant casts |
| 4672s | not even |
| 4673s | pretty close to instant cast |
| 4675s | no cooldown teleport would be too strong |
| 4680s | every class would have to have that |
| 4681s | every every single character every |
| 4683s | single class would have to have access |
| 4684s | to that level of movement |
| 4686s | and |
| 4691s | um it would it would trivialize |
| 4694s | navigating any situation if you could |
| 4696s | just be like |
| 4698s | through the whole map |
| 4700s | no matter where it was like |
| 4703s | you could already get pretty close to |
| 4704s | that in a lot of situations but like |
| 4708s | we don't want to completely trivialize |
| 4710s | it i already think that there's a few |
| 4712s | situations where moving skills are a |
| 4713s | little overtuned |
| 4726s | any news about the new class falconer |
| 4728s | rune master |
| 4729s | uh any news on multiplayer any news |
| 4731s | about upcoming class reworks um so |
| 4734s | we just |
| 4735s | like we're still in the last patch right |
| 4737s | um so you don't have any timelines on |
| 4739s | anything |
| 4740s | uh it's gonna be it's gonna be a little |
| 4742s | bit longer until the next patch than |
| 4743s | usual um |
| 4745s | i think |
| 4747s | and uh i can say there will not this is |
| 4750s | like |
| 4751s | the sixth seventh eighth i don't know |
| 4753s | how many times i've said this now i know |
| 4754s | it might not be you asked this but just |
| 4756s | be super duper clear again |
| 4759s | warlock rune master and falconer are not |
| 4762s | coming in the next patch |
| 4764s | we have not started work on any of them |
| 4767s | they're all really far out we don't have |
| 4769s | any eta on them we don't have any one of |
| 4771s | which ones first |
| 4778s | they're never coming they're coming |
| 4780s | they will be here at the latest by 1.00 |
| 4802s | it's one of those things where |
| 4804s | we realized a little while ago that |
| 4805s | we've got a lot of really good content |
| 4807s | in the game |
| 4808s | um |
| 4810s | and we've got some not fantastic content |
| 4812s | in the game still because mostly it's |
| 4814s | just falling behind |
| 4817s | because we keep getting better and |
| 4818s | better at doing this |
| 4820s | and if we hadn't improved at all |
| 4822s | things like skills like we were talking |
| 4824s | about earlier today like summon bear and |
| 4825s | someone saber tooth and things like that |
| 4827s | yeah they would be |
| 4829s | totally fine by comparison to other |
| 4830s | things |
| 4831s | but um |
| 4835s | like like three years ago summer bear |
| 4837s | was a great tree two years ago whenever |
| 4839s | the last it was redone it was a great |
| 4840s | tree |
| 4841s | um |
| 4843s | but since then we've made 40 skill trees |
| 4847s | or whatever it is that are way all way |
| 4849s | better |
| 4851s | you know |
| 4852s | um and just getting getting that minimum |
| 4854s | quality level up a little bit higher |
| 4857s | is |
| 4859s | is a bigger priority than filling in the |
| 4860s | gaps of the missing content because |
| 4862s | there is enough content |
| 4864s | um |
| 4866s | that's shoring up those weak points |
| 4868s | having those reducing those negative |
| 4870s | impressions |
| 4872s | is more important at this stage than |
| 4873s | finishing the classes |
| 4880s | i'm just gonna leave it there |
| 4883s | just gonna leave it there any experience |
| 4886s | once i gotta level up faster |
| 4890s | you should almost like go back |
| 4894s | to a lower level |
| 4896s | timeline just level faster or something |
| 4899s | i'm trying to arena run maybe |
| 4902s | speak of the devil |
| 4904s | maybe cool something like we go i could |
| 4906s | do uh |
| 4907s | arena champion run yeah let's do that |
| 4909s | okay after someone do that |
| 4921s | there's lots of stuff to do now it's |
| 4923s | something i am noticing is that there is |
| 4925s | it does feel like i can pick between |
| 4927s | multiple different things to try and do |
| 4929s | right now pretty easily |
| 4930s | um which which i think feels really good |
| 4933s | and |
| 4934s | and i know |
| 4935s | that a lot of that is predicated on the |
| 4936s | fact that there's a |
| 4937s | gigantic stash of keys sitting in my |
| 4940s | in my bank right now um |
| 4947s | but we found we found something like |
| 4949s | four or five keys this run haven't we |
| 4951s | today |
| 4957s | not been light on the key finds we've |
| 4959s | been getting pretty lucky |
| 4971s | uh |
| 4974s | i'm curious can you give |
| 4976s | oh run away mike uh can you give a rough |
| 4979s | outline of how patch cycle goes in terms |
| 4981s | of decision making and planning will be |
| 4983s | hopefully may oh my god why is it still |
| 4985s | scrolling uh |
| 4989s | i'm curious can you give a rough outline |
| 4991s | of how patch cycle goes in terms of |
| 4994s | decision making and planning will be |
| 4996s | hopefully make in an upcoming patch |
| 5001s | uh so i can't i can't tell you what's |
| 5003s | like scheduled for next patch |
| 5006s | uh if that's part of that question i may |
| 5008s | have misunderstood that um |
| 5012s | once we've got that like nailed down a |
| 5014s | little tighter i'm sure there'll be a |
| 5017s | a a post for it |
| 5019s | like we usually do |
| 5023s | um there's i mean basically there's a |
| 5026s | group of |
| 5027s | team leads that get together and say |
| 5030s | what do we think we need what do we |
| 5032s | think we can do |
| 5034s | um |
| 5035s | prioritize the things that are left |
| 5042s | layout |
| 5043s | a list of goals |
| 5046s | things that we kind of know we can do |
| 5048s | things we need to do and things we'd |
| 5050s | like to do |
| 5055s | and we uh |
| 5057s | make a plan from that |
| 5062s | it's just people that have been working |
| 5064s | on the project long enough that we can |
| 5065s | do that from basically inside the heads |
| 5067s | but there's |
| 5068s | so many documents so many documents of |
| 5070s | lists and |
| 5072s | reasons of various things you know |
| 5085s | i'm not drinking anywhere near enough |
| 5086s | water today |
| 5088s | oh |
| 5090s | uh what's been your favorite um |
| 5094s | sorry those i don't know if i fully |
| 5095s | answered that question or not probably |
| 5096s | didn't if you want more let me know |
| 5098s | maybe more specific question |
| 5100s | uh |
| 5101s | what has been your favorite and least |
| 5103s | favorite thing to work on for |
| 5105s | multiplayer |
| 5107s | i |
| 5108s | i mean |
| 5110s | that's that's a tough thing to answer |
| 5112s | because |
| 5117s | i don't know if anything's really stood |
| 5119s | out as |
| 5122s | overtly negative |
| 5125s | um |
| 5129s | it's just great to see things |
| 5132s | like actually get finished |
| 5135s | i guess |
| 5136s | my least favorite thing is the things |
| 5138s | that i haven't finished there we go so |
| 5139s | uh when you level up you don't you the |
| 5143s | the uh when you when a skill level's up |
| 5144s | and you get that pop-up it's like you've |
| 5146s | got an unspent skill point in your shift |
| 5148s | tree |
| 5150s | had to check um |
| 5152s | that pop-up right now doesn't show up |
| 5154s | and a few months ago i tried to get it |
| 5156s | working and then got moved off it onto a |
| 5159s | different project which was |
| 5161s | the right thing to do at the time for |
| 5162s | sure um so i said at least for thing was |
| 5164s | that because i didn't finish it |
| 5168s | but you know it's it's |
| 5170s | the actual process of working on it is |
| 5172s | all very similar so it's um |
| 5176s | i don't know if i'm really gonna be able |
| 5177s | to give a good answer here sorry |
| 5189s | my favorite part is the testing |
| 5191s | just getting to play with friends is is |
| 5193s | really awesome |
| 5205s | and don't worry my my not work friends |
| 5207s | pester me about multiplayer too we're |
| 5209s | playing magic last night and first thing |
| 5211s | any of them said to me i walked in the |
| 5212s | door wins multiplayer mike |
| 5223s | got to keep me on my toes you know |
| 5228s | and they say it with love |
| 5230s | as a joke |
| 5234s | sometimes the damage numbers on tooltips |
| 5237s | feel busted oh yeah they are not overly |
| 5240s | accurate |
| 5241s | uh mine says 99 000 and i take a potion |
| 5245s | adding 140 flat damage the tooltip says |
| 5247s | 36 000. |
| 5250s | that's surprising |
| 5251s | that it goes down when taking a potion |
| 5254s | to give a big bonus |
| 5256s | that's that sounds like a bug |
| 5260s | how does that 100 |
| 5261s | i do not know which potion's adding 140 |
| 5264s | flat damage that's crazy |
| 5270s | that's crazy |
| 5278s | the number the number is formatted to a |
| 5280s | specific size so maybe it rolled over |
| 5282s | and |
| 5283s | cut a value i don't i think it's |
| 5284s | formatted to show way bigger than that |
| 5286s | though |
| 5288s | so i don't think that's it |
| 5294s | but if it goes to like |
| 5296s | one zero zero zero zero three six zero |
| 5299s | zero then |
| 5300s | maybe it would format down weird |
| 5305s | maybe it's just a visual bug |
| 5313s | i'd be surprised if that's what it was |
| 5330s | oh |
| 5336s | yeah i'd submit a bug report with that |
| 5339s | if you think it's a bug |
| 5341s | but the the the tooltips are very |
| 5343s | inaccurate because they they can't |
| 5345s | take advantage of a lot of things |
| 5348s | so specifically if there's something |
| 5350s | where it's like |
| 5351s | um 400 more damage dealt to |
| 5355s | uh ignited enemies it will just |
| 5357s | literally ignore that stat even if |
| 5359s | you're always fighting things that are |
| 5360s | ignited |
| 5366s | i played 220 hours and found my first b |
| 5368s | shrine today |
| 5370s | those are rare |
| 5371s | so congrats |
| 5382s | why does my cool new weapon have a giant |
| 5384s | red x on it because it is a base type |
| 5387s | that should not drop in the game and |
| 5390s | does not have 2d art associated with it |
| 5393s | so that is the error art that we use to |
| 5397s | very clearly |
| 5398s | see that it's got the wrong art on it |
| 5401s | we'll probably use something more |
| 5403s | appropriate once we go live but uh |
| 5407s | it's it's just there so that we can |
| 5408s | really quickly and easily see like oh |
| 5410s | this item clearly is wrong |
| 5413s | so it stands out like a sore thumb and |
| 5414s | we fix it um |
| 5416s | the bait so some face types are only |
| 5418s | supposed to be used for specific uniques |
| 5422s | so like there's a there's a helmet that |
| 5424s | does that there's a catalyst that does |
| 5426s | that there's a spear that does that like |
| 5429s | there's a whole bunch of different items |
| 5430s | and that um |
| 5432s | that base type was designed specifically |
| 5435s | for i think that's probably the |
| 5436s | two-handed axe |
| 5438s | for the new |
| 5439s | necromancer x |
| 5442s | uh |
| 5443s | and |
| 5445s | it's um |
| 5447s | the base type's not supposed to drop as |
| 5449s | a |
| 5450s | a magic rare exalted item but it is by |
| 5453s | mistake |
| 5454s | and so you're getting um |
| 5458s | it doesn't have the base that doesn't |
| 5459s | have 2d art because when it drops as |
| 5461s | unique it uses the unique art |
| 5467s | so it's just going to the fallback which |
| 5469s | is a giant red x |
| 5472s | so yes throw that item away it should |
| 5473s | not exist |
| 5482s | reminder to at me to get me to answer |
| 5485s | your question yeah who didn't see |
| 5488s | all right about really quick question uh |
| 5489s | what last epoch character would most fun |
| 5491s | to hang out with in real life |
| 5494s | ah |
| 5499s | i mean charles dance |
| 5501s | come on right |
| 5511s | that other primalist i feel like i feel |
| 5513s | like if you were like really good |
| 5514s | friends of the promise you could like |
| 5516s | ride a saber tooth |
| 5517s | how cool is that right |
| 5523s | uh hey really quick oh yeah look at the |
| 5525s | same thing sweet |
| 5527s | uh you might disintegrate isn't doing 1 |
| 5529s | million dps i mean it might be |
| 5536s | some of them as well assume |
| 5538s | that there's multiple enemies that |
| 5540s | they're hitting |
| 5542s | some of the dps calculations so some of |
| 5543s | the like really aoe heavy abilities uh |
| 5547s | will calculate as though you're hitting |
| 5549s | like it'll be like oh it will assume |
| 5551s | you're hitting two enemies all the time |
| 5559s | since the other thing is it's tricky to |
| 5561s | do with aoe abilities is you could be |
| 5562s | hitting one enemy or 20 enemies and the |
| 5565s | dps changes dramatically |
| 5587s | uh i would like you to know this is |
| 5590s | that this rpg for me is already the best |
| 5592s | i've ever played thank you very much |
| 5594s | that's great to hear for the longest |
| 5595s | time i've been wanting a mechanically |
| 5597s | deep |
| 5598s | intricate and strategic rpg to play and |
| 5600s | dive into and lastly [ __ ] has delivered |
| 5602s | that even better than i could have |
| 5604s | dreamed that's fantastic thank you uh |
| 5606s | scheme literally is a dream come true |
| 5608s | and i'll be playing it for a very long |
| 5609s | time to come thank you mike and i'll be |
| 5611s | hd thank you that's that's really i |
| 5614s | thank you that feels good |
| 5617s | yeah |
| 5618s | i i just love hearing i like whenever |
| 5620s | someone's having fun with the game it's |
| 5622s | always my favorite thing to hear |
| 5628s | i one of my friends uh i talked to i |
| 5630s | haven't talked to them much in a couple |
| 5633s | years actually because |
| 5635s | uh |
| 5636s | he used to play hockey with them |
| 5638s | and uh long time ago and they messaged |
| 5640s | me out of the blue because like um they |
| 5643s | got a key back we were like in |
| 5645s | kickstarter and they played a little bit |
| 5646s | or whatever |
| 5647s | um |
| 5650s | and they hadn't played in just years and |
| 5652s | they picked it up just to try it again |
| 5654s | and they messed me like |
| 5655s | oh so you're making a real video game |
| 5657s | now |
| 5659s | yep |
| 5662s | it's actually good now it was good then |
| 5664s | but it's way better now |
| 5672s | kickstarter version was more of a proof |
| 5673s | of concept |
| 5676s | yeah thank you |
| 5677s | i appreciate hearing |
| 5679s | about the fun you're having playing your |
| 5680s | game |
| 5686s | here's here's a neat little trick |
| 5688s | that's that's interesting |
| 5689s | that might seem like a bug but i think |
| 5691s | it's actually good so i'm gonna click on |
| 5693s | this poison resistance shard |
| 5695s | and then stop moving |
| 5697s | and then now i'm gonna just walk near it |
| 5699s | without clicking on it |
| 5701s | it'll pick them up |
| 5703s | so when you click on one and start |
| 5705s | moving towards it |
| 5707s | it |
| 5708s | uh adds it into a list of things that |
| 5710s | it's gonna pick up when it gets nearby |
| 5713s | um |
| 5715s | and if you haven't changed zones |
| 5717s | and you move near that item |
| 5720s | it'll pick it up |
| 5730s | it actually adds everything that's |
| 5732s | that's when the calculation for the |
| 5733s | vacuuming takes place |
| 5739s | which is which is actually why this |
| 5740s | little bug sometimes where if you start |
| 5742s | moving towards one and one drops as |
| 5744s | you're already on the way you can |
| 5746s | sometimes not pick it up |
| 5768s | ah |
| 5773s | let's go this group yes |
| 5777s | the pack and a half right there |
| 5783s | not happening but i need it to happen |
| 5789s | let's not get cocky now |
| 5796s | not happening |
| 5807s | this one's a trek and a half eh |
| 5824s | all right more questions here |
| 5827s | is there going to be more in-game bosses |
| 5828s | with interesting items oh yeah let's |
| 5830s | only drop off the bosses are completely |
| 5832s | random how do you prefer items dropping |
| 5834s | i think i think it's i think this is one |
| 5835s | of those places where balance is really |
| 5837s | important |
| 5838s | and i don't mean like power balancing |
| 5840s | but like um |
| 5842s | having having a combination of the |
| 5843s | different types |
| 5844s | so um |
| 5848s | uniques that can drop anywhere are great |
| 5851s | because they can surprise you |
| 5853s | and |
| 5854s | you can be in the middle of looking for |
| 5855s | one item and find a completely different |
| 5857s | one |
| 5858s | and it can like |
| 5860s | uh it can be an item i love it i love |
| 5862s | situations where you're looking for |
| 5864s | some item or you're building something |
| 5866s | or you're trying to complete some tasks |
| 5867s | and an item drops that you weren't |
| 5869s | expecting and is super good and like is |
| 5872s | a is a build |
| 5874s | uh encouraging item something that's |
| 5876s | like |
| 5877s | uh oh my god i'm gonna now make uh |
| 5880s | oh my god i'm gonna now make a uh hail |
| 5883s | of arrows build you know |
| 5886s | and |
| 5887s | uh where it can like |
| 5889s | spur making a new character or |
| 5891s | respecting an old character or something |
| 5892s | like that |
| 5893s | i i think that's really cool um but then |
| 5895s | at the same time |
| 5898s | there's quite often places where you're |
| 5900s | like okay i really need this one item to |
| 5902s | even make this build work that i really |
| 5904s | want mustache is tickling my nose so |
| 5907s | much right now and it's bothering me a |
| 5908s | lot |
| 5909s | um |
| 5911s | where you have one item that you really |
| 5914s | need it's great to be able to target |
| 5915s | farm that off specific bosses and have |
| 5917s | really thematic um things as well so |
| 5920s | like the new axe the new 200x that we're |
| 5922s | just talking about coming off of um dre |
| 5924s | morris |
| 5926s | it is the literal axe he's wielding in |
| 5929s | the scythe that he's wielding in the |
| 5931s | boss fight like it's the same model it's |
| 5933s | the same everything so it's like that's |
| 5935s | his weapons and that's really cool where |
| 5937s | you like oh i killed this boss and i |
| 5939s | picked up their weapon and now i'm using |
| 5940s | it that's awesome |
| 5943s | so having having a combination of the |
| 5944s | two i think is really valuable |
| 5954s | and yes there will be more of both of |
| 5955s | those things |
| 5958s | got a question from hardest |
| 5960s | underscores in between every letter and |
| 5962s | all caps |
| 5965s | uh is there any concept art on what the |
| 5968s | portrait frames are going to look like |
| 5970s | for the kickstarter backers i noticed |
| 5972s | there is not a placeholder spot in the |
| 5974s | cosmetics section in the game that's |
| 5976s | true uh i think there i think there |
| 5978s | actually is um |
| 5981s | [Music] |
| 5983s | or there was |
| 5986s | is this it |
| 5989s | i think that might be the portrait frame |
| 5992s | placeholder spot oh banner nevermind it |
| 5995s | says it right on it portal yeah |
| 5998s | uh |
| 5999s | yeah |
| 6000s | there's not one there all right there |
| 6002s | should be this this whole thing is uh |
| 6005s | not finished yet like |
| 6006s | this has still gotta do something we |
| 6008s | still gotta do something |
| 6010s | um |
| 6011s | like when you go cody here this is this |
| 6013s | is getting redone like that was this is |
| 6015s | something that i made |
| 6019s | years ago and then they slapped some |
| 6022s | better |
| 6023s | ui on it |
| 6024s | a little while ago but it's still very |
| 6026s | unfinished |
| 6035s | uh but no i don't need concept art for |
| 6037s | it unfortunately |
| 6038s | uh what determines the |
| 6041s | aoc champion i'll get |
| 6044s | rng i've done 24 tier four runs today |
| 6046s | and i've only seen valon once |
| 6048s | i want to get those damn boots yeah that |
| 6050s | is literally just really bad luck it |
| 6053s | should be even distribution one and |
| 6054s | three |
| 6060s | uh |
| 6061s | so what if i just click on everything on |
| 6062s | the map and never pick it up what's the |
| 6064s | limit of that pickup queue i mean it's |
| 6066s | just a list so really it uh |
| 6071s | and that to me to be clear that only |
| 6073s | actually works |
| 6076s | uh actually that does work for |
| 6077s | everything doesn't it |
| 6080s | yeah you could you could do that |
| 6081s | um you'd have to drop a lot of things |
| 6084s | and somehow avoid picking any of it up |
| 6087s | i think it actually self clears after a |
| 6091s | little while it like calls itself |
| 6096s | possibly when you add something new to |
| 6098s | the list it recrea when you click okay i |
| 6101s | think we can experiment this a little |
| 6102s | bit |
| 6114s | experiment time |
| 6116s | okay |
| 6117s | so if we do |
| 6119s | we're here click and add |
| 6121s | if we go over there we'll pick it up |
| 6123s | but then if we do this and then walk |
| 6125s | over there |
| 6126s | that still does it |
| 6130s | there's some condition that clears the |
| 6131s | list i remember that so |
| 6134s | it might be at a certain |
| 6135s | volume it clears itself |
| 6137s | it might be a certain interval it just |
| 6139s | checks and clears |
| 6151s | the limit's big enough and the |
| 6154s | performance is such that it doesn't |
| 6156s | matter if that list gets huge because it |
| 6157s | doesn't loop through that list |
| 6161s | um doing anything expensive |
| 6174s | so all that would happen is and the |
| 6176s | limit is probably in the in the millions |
| 6179s | before before you notice any problems |
| 6193s | get me picking up that item's not |
| 6194s | happening |
| 6222s | all right another question thoughts on |
| 6224s | chemical what's that |
| 6225s | uh |
| 6228s | there's a few things i love in it and |
| 6234s | uh overall i didn't find too much new |
| 6236s | stuff that i liked |
| 6240s | there's a few real bangers though |
| 6243s | i thought it was i thought it was a |
| 6245s | overall positive set |
| 6248s | i'm much more excited about |
| 6251s | uh shoots the new capenna which is |
| 6254s | i was so just interested in it a month |
| 6257s | ago and the cards started getting |
| 6258s | spoiled and i am hooked |
| 6268s | like i learned that i don't like art |
| 6269s | deco |
| 6270s | but |
| 6271s | whoever is designing this set is a |
| 6274s | genius |
| 6278s | and apparently watches me play and knows |
| 6280s | exactly what i like |
| 6302s | i realize this question may be rather |
| 6304s | far out but rpgs work in seasons and |
| 6306s | typically they have a season theme yes |
| 6309s | uh we do intend to do the same |
| 6312s | uh has a team thought about how they |
| 6313s | will implement those systems and what |
| 6315s | they will look like if you did yes we |
| 6317s | have for sure um |
| 6320s | to just to give it an easy reference |
| 6321s | it'll be more similar of the of the |
| 6323s | reference options out there to compare |
| 6325s | it to it'll be most similar to path of |
| 6329s | exile but will be different |
| 6332s | um |
| 6333s | partially from the standpoint of path |
| 6334s | excel has |
| 6335s | a very well-oiled long-running machine |
| 6337s | that they can use to uh |
| 6340s | turn out high quality content very |
| 6342s | quickly |
| 6343s | um |
| 6347s | and and some of those systems we don't |
| 6349s | have in place to do quite as much quite |
| 6350s | as quickly |
| 6352s | uh but that's probably part of the |
| 6354s | reason why we've |
| 6356s | been working on this um |
| 6358s | the schedule we've been working on |
| 6360s | recently to make the game and get the |
| 6361s | 1.0 on and keep patching the game is to |
| 6364s | prepare and practice for |
| 6366s | exactly that style of system so that we |
| 6370s | we have that those systems in place |
| 6372s | those like development systems in place |
| 6376s | um |
| 6377s | and we're comfortable with it |
| 6379s | it's part of the reason why our |
| 6380s | development cycles look the way they do |
| 6383s | is so that we're preparing for |
| 6385s | being able to release content cycles |
| 6387s | at a similar rate |
| 6390s | um what that'll look like as far as |
| 6392s | content goes i can't say because i don't |
| 6395s | know they'll all be different |
| 6397s | um |
| 6399s | i'd say some of the early ones will |
| 6400s | probably like |
| 6402s | they'll they'll probably settle in oh my |
| 6404s | god just run run run run run run |
| 6407s | not okay |
| 6409s | no look over there guys shiny yeah |
| 6412s | cool eh |
| 6418s | [Music] |
| 6425s | okay |
| 6427s | thank you for uh stepping into my office |
| 6430s | my goodness |
| 6440s | those dots finish them off |
| 6444s | i'm not going over there |
| 6448s | it's my necrotic rest it's probably |
| 6450s | really low that's probably why i just |
| 6451s | kept hitting one shot |
| 6457s | so good |
| 6460s | it's all right |
| 6465s | should we take defensive notes probably |
| 6482s | let's go do an arena |
| 6486s | oh we're so close to this boss |
| 6488s | do we try and push for that |
| 6493s | i think we just pushed for that if we do |
| 6495s | if we do good stability gain here we |
| 6497s | just get it |
| 6508s | but yeah the um |
| 6511s | cycles what they'll look like |
| 6513s | they'll include |
| 6515s | it'll change cycle to cycle what they |
| 6516s | include really but they'll they could |
| 6518s | include things such as new dungeons new |
| 6521s | in-game systems new monolith timelines |
| 6524s | um |
| 6525s | new like optional extra bosses |
| 6529s | uh new uniques new base types new skills |
| 6533s | new mastery classes new base classes |
| 6535s | they can include like |
| 6537s | really just anything |
| 6540s | uh depending on on |
| 6542s | which cycle it is what we've put in |
| 6544s | recently what you know |
| 6546s | anything |
| 6553s | i think there'll be some things that |
| 6555s | will start to be regular includes in |
| 6557s | most |
| 6558s | of them so like uh unique items there |
| 6561s | might there might be like a cycle that's |
| 6562s | like a really unique heavy cycle |
| 6564s | and like for example we did when we uh |
| 6566s | added legendary items we added quite a |
| 6569s | few unique items i'm pretty sure we |
| 6570s | added legendaries because there's a |
| 6572s | mechanic that's being added that |
| 6573s | interacts with them |
| 6575s | um |
| 6579s | so yeah |
| 6584s | lots of stuff |
| 6598s | i feel like i should switch back to my |
| 6599s | old bow i don't think this one's |
| 6600s | actually doing me any favors |
| 6604s | taking my hit damage more but like it's |
| 6606s | so low already that |
| 6608s | was that really doing anything |
| 6610s | not really |
| 6616s | right |
| 6621s | and i switched back steven feels |
| 6625s | can i |
| 6626s | buff it at all |
| 6633s | c5 attacks being physical damage sure |
| 6635s | thing |
| 6636s | bleed on head chance go up to c5 yeah |
| 6639s | all right |
| 6641s | should we chaos the chill |
| 6644s | slow |
| 6646s | yeah |
| 6648s | not ideal but whatever |
| 6669s | all right let's go |
| 6679s | someone woke up on the wrong side of the |
| 6681s | cave floor |
| 6685s | i'm assuming that's where they sleep |
| 6687s | easy |
| 6688s | nice cozy cave |
| 6703s | easy |
| 6719s | all right come on |
| 6726s | there we go |
| 6728s | take it |
| 6729s | i don't think we quite hit enough to do |
| 6730s | the uh |
| 6732s | boss here but it's close |
| 6737s | who do you want to meet in game that we |
| 6738s | haven't met yet |
| 6741s | i mean a tara |
| 6745s | observer |
| 6750s | was i there and i just didn't pay |
| 6751s | attention i don't think so |
| 6753s | uh do you think it feels bad to see a |
| 6755s | set drop and you look at it and go eh or |
| 6757s | ew if it doesn't work for your build |
| 6760s | there's one thing that's just overall no |
| 6761s | interest seems bad yes i agree it does |
| 6765s | um |
| 6768s | we're still working on sets uh we had a |
| 6770s | meeting yesterday that we talked about |
| 6771s | them at quite length actually |
| 6775s | and we've got some action items around |
| 6777s | those |
| 6785s | unrelenting oh |
| 6788s | oh my goodness |
| 6795s | okay |
| 6817s | come on mike don't die |
| 6819s | you're gonna die just try not dying |
| 6821s | instead it's probably better |
| 6828s | just just do what we focused on |
| 6831s | bring their health to zero while keeping |
| 6832s | yours above zero |
| 6835s | pro strats |
| 6840s | [Music] |
| 6842s | ding level up ding level up oh i died |
| 6845s | there |
| 6847s | come on |
| 6851s | we're not going to kill the boss we'll |
| 6852s | kill the boss early |
| 6853s | early next time i think |
| 6856s | we'll start with that maybe i'll start |
| 6858s | but |
| 6860s | we'll have to be |
| 6863s | uh is anything you've created in last |
| 6865s | epoch been inspired by magic better yet |
| 6868s | what is something you wish you could |
| 6869s | implement from magic into le oh |
| 6872s | i mean like i'd love to have a card game |
| 6874s | in last epoch that would be so cool |
| 6878s | um |
| 6882s | there's there's definitely things that |
| 6884s | have been influenced by magic and i i |
| 6887s | likely subconsciously for the most part |
| 6889s | you know like where |
| 6890s | i don't even realize i'm doing it and |
| 6892s | it's just you know |
| 6895s | pretty well all creative tasks are |
| 6898s | the most part a product of the other |
| 6899s | creative things you've seen that are |
| 6900s | similar right |
| 6904s | so |
| 6907s | i mean like |
| 6910s | it's hard to draw the distinction of |
| 6911s | where those where those inspirations |
| 6912s | come from |
| 6914s | i don't think there's been anything |
| 6915s | where i'm like okay i'm gonna take this |
| 6917s | specific magic card |
| 6918s | and i'm gonna make a last epoch item out |
| 6921s | of this specific magikarp that's never |
| 6923s | happened |
| 6924s | um |
| 6927s | but i bet i bet you could look at all |
| 6928s | the things i made been like |
| 6930s | and draw connections that i don't even |
| 6932s | realize are there |
| 6934s | um |
| 6937s | there's definitely node names |
| 6940s | like if you look if you look at the node |
| 6941s | names of older skill sheets it's been a |
| 6943s | while since i've been the one doing node |
| 6945s | names for skills but um |
| 6949s | like |
| 6951s | go look at flame reeve or meteor or |
| 6954s | fireball and i guarantee some of those |
| 6956s | spells are like totally accidentally |
| 6959s | some of those nodes |
| 6961s | are just gonna be |
| 6963s | a magikarp and some some of that also |
| 6964s | has through the fact there's just so |
| 6966s | many magic cards that like |
| 6968s | there's like so many ways to say burn |
| 6970s | something |
| 6972s | uh |
| 6973s | so you'll get things that overlap there |
| 6975s | naturally |
| 6978s | but some of them i bet are gonna be just |
| 6980s | things that i didn't realize i was doing |
| 6983s | let's see if we can find one even |
| 7004s | where are some of these |
| 7005s | skills |
| 7019s | i'm trying to find one |
| 7027s | yeah a lot of them like that's a magic |
| 7029s | car that's a magic car that's just a |
| 7030s | generic name of things rolling rolling |
| 7032s | thunder i bet that's one |
| 7034s | but that's one that uh |
| 7037s | i accidentally named similar |
| 7040s | that's a |
| 7042s | two red and x deal x damage uh divided |
| 7046s | as you choose among any number of |
| 7047s | targets |
| 7049s | buyback three i think that's really |
| 7051s | thunder |
| 7058s | oh it's not the buy-back one |
| 7060s | it's everything i said without buyback |
| 7063s | fanning the flames that's the buy-back |
| 7065s | one that's definitely a node we have too |
| 7068s | i don't know where that is there's |
| 7069s | definitely a note somewhere called |
| 7070s | fanning the flames and i bet that was |
| 7072s | for me |
| 7086s | you're welcome for answering your |
| 7087s | questions i don't know which one was |
| 7092s | where's chilling here |
| 7093s | yeah well you know what i wasn't trying |
| 7094s | to |
| 7095s | get what i got |
| 7102s | i'll get a better bow you know i will |
| 7121s | uh is let me guess we're getting low on |
| 7124s | time and there's a bunch of questions |
| 7125s | here i'm gonna try and get through them |
| 7127s | you know a bunch |
| 7129s | uh is it intended that voidcleave does |
| 7132s | not benefit from fresh from the forged |
| 7134s | forge guard passive node i don't know i |
| 7137s | don't know what those nodes are |
| 7140s | sorry |
| 7143s | probably |
| 7144s | if it doesn't |
| 7148s | uh but maybe not |
| 7155s | if you think something's a bug just |
| 7157s | report the bug if it's not a bug |
| 7160s | and we like um false bug reports are |
| 7163s | still useful and that's something that i |
| 7164s | think a lot of people are concerned |
| 7166s | about doing or like wasting time but |
| 7167s | making a bug report that's not actually |
| 7168s | a bug it's still useful because if you |
| 7170s | think something's a bug and it's not it |
| 7172s | means we're either communicating it |
| 7173s | poorly |
| 7174s | or |
| 7175s | it probably should do what you think it |
| 7178s | should do |
| 7179s | um |
| 7181s | and uh |
| 7185s | both of those are important things for |
| 7186s | us to look at |
| 7192s | so |
| 7193s | if you think something's a bug please |
| 7195s | just report it |
| 7197s | it's faster than asking if it's intended |
| 7199s | or |
| 7211s | not not happening |
| 7214s | all right |
| 7216s | oh my god the car game's like i'll be |
| 7218s | sick |
| 7222s | it'd be tough to it would be tough to |
| 7223s | line up and get it working and |
| 7224s | everything like |
| 7227s | because it's so |
| 7229s | there's such disparate genres right |
| 7236s | but i'd love to work on designing a card |
| 7239s | game it'd be so cool i did uh i did a um |
| 7243s | draft set for a game of thrones themed |
| 7245s | set that i made |
| 7246s | it was a ton of fun |
| 7248s | i have |
| 7249s | got the box right behind me that's uh |
| 7251s | full of |
| 7252s | printed cards and booster packs |
| 7255s | uh |
| 7257s | draft draft pack |
| 7258s | split up already ready to rock |
| 7260s | come on over let's draft some game of |
| 7262s | thrones magic cards |
| 7266s | based off the first book |
| 7267s | only at this point because i was it was |
| 7269s | a first two i think actually because |
| 7271s | planning on doing |
| 7273s | uh three set cycles |
| 7276s | for progressing each book and then doing |
| 7278s | drafting all three together |
| 7282s | or |
| 7283s | tv series whatever |
| 7289s | but i kind of got busy with something |
| 7291s | i don't care what it was |
| 7294s | last epoch something like that i can't |
| 7297s | remember the name |
| 7304s | started working on this |
| 7305s | in case that wasn't obvious |
| 7316s | this guy is tricky |
| 7326s | so many things all over the place |
| 7332s | oh god god |
| 7334s | oh smoke weaver nice |
| 7337s | i'll take it |
| 7340s | it's like that happily |
| 7363s | string doesn't seem very injured |
| 7369s | you know |
| 7373s | what brings you here |
| 7376s | i so recognize that voice |
| 7381s | all right |
| 7382s | we're at time here i'll finish up some |
| 7384s | questions here uh have you discussed |
| 7386s | alternative resources for different |
| 7388s | character classes absolutely so all |
| 7390s | classes do not use mana but each one |
| 7392s | interacts with the resource pool in a |
| 7394s | potentially different way yes |
| 7396s | we discussed that um a couple years ago |
| 7399s | for quite a while |
| 7400s | um |
| 7403s | and we ultimately decided against it |
| 7404s | partially |
| 7406s | there's quite a few different reasons um |
| 7410s | it boils down to being a little bit too |
| 7412s | restrictive in some cases on |
| 7415s | um having items overlap |
| 7418s | uh |
| 7421s | is is one of the main one of the main |
| 7423s | reasons but also just having |
| 7425s | uh |
| 7426s | a consistent resource for most the time |
| 7428s | and in a rage we've kind of broken out |
| 7430s | with rage but |
| 7431s | really rage is actually just mana but |
| 7433s | the globe color changed |
| 7435s | this is all it is |
| 7437s | um |
| 7440s | but you do interact with it differently |
| 7441s | when you shape shift shape-shifted um |
| 7447s | yeah we talked about it for for quite a |
| 7449s | while but uh |
| 7452s | we're definitely not changing it now it |
| 7455s | is way too late in the game to change it |
| 7456s | now |
| 7459s | uh all right any news on new class or |
| 7461s | subclass we'll finish off with this |
| 7463s | question |
| 7464s | like always i have no information on |
| 7466s | when new classes or subclasses are |
| 7467s | coming there are ways out and they will |
| 7469s | not be coming next patch |
| 7471s | i hope you all have a great day |
| 7474s | i had a lot of fun this stream |
| 7476s | was chill didn't do it too much stuff |
| 7478s | died a whole bunch oh i gotta learn how |
| 7480s | to get good here apparently |
| 7482s | um but we will |
| 7486s | so you know thanks thanks for stopping |
| 7488s | by i had fun i hope you did too |
| 7491s | or what oh |
| 7492s | hope you had fun i know i did that's |
| 7493s | what i usually say |
| 7495s | i don't have a set script or anything i |
| 7496s | just |
| 7497s | end up talking |