[2022] Developer Stream 8.19.22 | Last Epoch | Last Epoch Dev Tracker

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5s	good afternoon everybody welcome back to
7s	the last epoch devstream
10s	as always
12s	i'm your host mike hello
14s	how's it going everybody
18s	i'm feeling pretty good
19s	thanks for asking just assuming you said
22s	good thanks how about you when when i
23s	said that anyways uh we're going to keep
26s	playing our bow images i'm having a ton
27s	of fun with it
29s	and
31s	i like playing it so i'm gonna keep
32s	doing it we're gonna do some empowered
34s	monoliths see if we can
36s	you know maybe maybe stack a little
37s	corruption here there do something like
38s	that i we just we do we kind of skip
40s	regular ones so i don't have all of my
42s	blessings even in place yet so i might
44s	stick to that a little more finish the
46s	leveling up i want to make a few
47s	legendaries go through through some
48s	dungeons you know
50s	just uh
51s	round out the gear a bit
54s	if you have any questions please feel
55s	free to ask that's why i'm here uh if
57s	you want to ask me a question please put
60s	at last epochgame
61s	in the question and i will see it much
63s	easier one right off the bat random name
65s	access reset 13 months in a row thank
67s	you very much
68s	oh that's a
70s	that's that's a big one starting the
72s	stream off right now off to bed we'll
74s	have a good sleep
76s	i know uh i know the stream time is not
78s	ideal for some people
80s	for the reason me because i'm real far
83s	west
89s	because it's like
90s	it's past midnight lots of places
93s	oh i just realized what's possibly
96s	playing right now
97s	or maybe it's after this is done oh i'm
100s	a big hockey fan
102s	um
104s	so the world junior hockey championships
105s	usually happens it's usually uh like
107s	starts on boxing day day after christmas
110s	and um
112s	and ends in the early new year
114s	but this year due to coven
117s	it was uh
119s	it was hard delayed
121s	it started actually and then stopped
125s	oh my god it starts right now no way
131s	canada and chelsea are playing right now
136s	you guys think i could pull off having
138s	it up on my other screen and like muting
140s	it
145s	we're gonna do this because uh
147s	this is this is like the one sporting
149s	event i watch every year is this one
151s	tournament
152s	you know canada hockey is a big thing
160s	oh god it's like ruining everything
162s	having the stream open oh
172s	rip i guess i'm missing it syllabi
179s	it's just a semi-finals book it's just
180s	the semi-finals mike it's just the
181s	semi-finals mike okay if you have any
183s	questions please feel free to ask at
185s	last the [ __ ] game the question i'll be
186s	happy to answer um
188s	as always our streams are for charity
191s	and this month our charity is a pause
194s	with the cause
196s	they
197s	uh
199s	they train
200s	um
202s	service animals uh for with specific
204s	disabilities in mind so they find a
206s	person who needs a specific type of
207s	service animal and
209s	trains a dog for them i assume mostly
212s	dogs
220s	yes we do a question uh when do we get
222s	the next update regarding 0.9 progress i
225s	mean
226s	if if you're wondering about like um
229s	uh like a dev blog type post there's not
232s	really a lot of new stuff to put in the
233s	dev blog so i don't know if we're gonna
235s	be doing one for a little bit there's
237s	uh it'll probably
239s	i don't know there might be another one
240s	soon there might not be
244s	but like
245s	i can i can tell you basically what it
246s	says right now go read the last one and
248s	just assume everything that it says is
250s	just a little bit further along than
251s	that one
253s	all the same stuff
256s	more performance um
258s	more
260s	uh new stuff being added as far as the
263s	new stuff that it said uh the the like
266s	in-game hit vfx stuff i think it's
269s	applied to every monster in the game now
271s	so like whenever you hit anything it has
274s	nice
275s	like effects that go with it like the
277s	the death animations i think that's in
278s	for everything too like it's just sort
280s	of like everything that was in that last
281s	one is just more of that
292s	um september ish is not the time frame
293s	it ever was
295s	unfortunately that's a
297s	misconception that was
300s	uh propagated pretty hard
301s	um
303s	i've been trying
304s	to stop that and correct everywhere i
306s	see that so if you do see it tell them
308s	it it was never right um
311s	september ish was the timeline we had
313s	announced for
315s	zero eight five
316s	um
318s	and
320s	we when we did when we switched from um
323s	doing a zero eight five release to going
324s	straight to multiplayer at zero nine
327s	we uh we changed the timeline to be not
329s	that
330s	um
332s	so it's it's not september
336s	um basically we just said it will be
338s	longer than 085 would have been so it'll
340s	be after
342s	the vague september-ish
345s	um
346s	yeah
353s	with multiple on the horizon are we
355s	getting any sort of online lobby system
357s	for creating games inviting people or is
358s	it more of a hot drop party system right
361s	now
362s	what's available that we have in our
363s	testing is
365s	there's no law there's no lobby system
367s	right now the goal is more to have town
369s	function as a lobby system to some
371s	degree
374s	um that could change though we do we we
376s	have been getting a lot of feedback from
377s	early ct's about um
380s	the process of finding uh pickup groups
382s	and and people you don't know to play
384s	with and and how that feels and
385s	everything like that and like so in the
387s	in the very early version we gave them
388s	there was literally nothing it was just
390s	chat and if you can find someone on
392s	discord usually
393s	but that was a the first version that we
395s	gave them type thing
398s	but that was a pretty big piece of
399s	feedback we got was that there was a lot
401s	of people who were like i don't have
402s	friends who play this yet um partially
404s	because there's like a pretty small
406s	community that that has access to
408s	multiplayer still um and it was it was
410s	tough finding someone to play with
411s	because you know there's not
413s	thousands and thousands and thousands of
415s	people trying to do the same thing you
416s	are
417s	with such a small testing group
419s	uh so they were i was one piece of
421s	feedback we did quite a bit
427s	you mean eight six for september yeah
429s	we're not oh did i say eight five i'm
431s	sorry yes
433s	eight six was originally um slated for
435s	september and we changed 86 to
438s	0.9
439s	bye-bye
440s	thanks to the catch
447s	and i do know that
448s	a certain other similar style game has
450s	launched a new league today um
454s	so the the
455s	i will not be surprised there's a little
457s	less engagement today than normal that's
459s	totally fine
462s	because they usually launch on fridays
463s	this happens what three times a year
465s	four times a year
472s	it's all good so i'm just going to enjoy
473s	myself and play a little
477s	bomage if multiplayer implementation
479s	gets delayed for any reason do you see
481s	the possibility of implementing some
483s	non-multiplayer features new unique
484s	items small things like that to hold
486s	folks over um
490s	maybe it's
491s	it's really tough so here's the problem
493s	um
495s	we've completely merged developments
498s	uh now so there there is no
501s	offline version of the game and online
504s	version of the game separate builds like
506s	a crate or anything like that it's just
507s	the game gets made
509s	um and in that you can play offline or
511s	online but it is um
514s	it's not separated at all so
516s	the time it would take us to
519s	re-split that in order to make
522s	uh a buildable version with some of
525s	those those small features
527s	for
528s	um
529s	for for like a surprise patch
533s	would be
535s	baffling like like
538s	the the amount of extra time there is is
539s	just insane
541s	so so i would say very unlikely we would
543s	do something like that um
546s	it's not impossible
548s	get gets really powerful tools so we we
550s	could use that to um
554s	to generate something but it would be it
555s	would be basically the whole build
557s	release pipeline
558s	and like several developers and all of
561s	qa i would have to flip to that for like
563s	a month to get that out of the door
565s	um
567s	so we really don't want to do that
569s	my ankle i got a mosquito bite on my
571s	ankle
573s	it's so itchy
575s	oh it's so itchy
585s	easy i know i'm not supposed to use
587s	flurry and it's supposed to be the
588s	detonating error version this but oh man
589s	flirty's just great it's working
590s	wonderful
596s	i've been i've been playing cinder
598s	strike bow
599s	on uh
600s	on online and like
603s	i don't quite have the gear for it
605s	luckily car's been carrying me hard
612s	playing as plain as hammerton
624s	33 000 in the queue at the moment oh
626s	yeah that's a fair few
628s	good for them
637s	i don't think i could get away with
638s	playing that instead like play play
640s	like answer questions about epoch i
642s	don't think that would
645s	work nice spear what do we got
648s	oh biden's
650s	that is a cool item there's there's a
652s	this one has a unique base item that was
654s	made for it i think
658s	you can pay oh maybe not
661s	i think it did at one point and we
664s	changed the base types
666s	uh and something else called the unique
667s	face or something like that
670s	every once in a while so most unique
671s	items are unique versions of base types
674s	that already exist so like like a
677s	longbow is a is an item that you can
679s	just get um
681s	winter is just the unique longbow or a
683s	unique longbow and every once in a while
685s	we do make a unique
687s	base type that doesn't drop and you
689s	can't have magic exalted rare uh
691s	versions of it it can only be on that
693s	unique or set item too
695s	it's pretty rare but there are a couple
696s	examples of it there's a poison spear i
699s	think
701s	um
702s	there's a shield that's like that
705s	this is a catalyst that's like that
710s	could be wrong on a couple of those
715s	oh there's a question i missed here uh
717s	hey mike any plans to save builds on
720s	character
720s	[Music]
722s	and switch them when you want to change
723s	your playstyle so this is a question
725s	about asking like a diablo 3 armory
726s	style system where you can
728s	um quick switch your gear loadout and
731s	skill specs so you can just say like
733s	okay i'm i'm done being uh bowmage i
736s	want to flip to being uh
738s	um
739s	i don't know a a
741s	a ice puncture
743s	boat
745s	sorry
746s	and um you just walk up to it you're
748s	like okay switch to my loadout it just
749s	switches um this is not a feature we
752s	have planned and we actually have
753s	specifically planned not to have this
755s	feature um
757s	and so i don't i don't think something
760s	like this is going to happen anytime
761s	soon it's it's possible we
764s	there's sort of a
766s	a loadout templating system we've
769s	considered adding
770s	um we don't really have plans to put
772s	this in but we've considered one thing
774s	we talked about doing is having a
775s	templating system whereby you could say
777s	like
778s	you could you could like load up a build
780s	and when you go into the tree it would
781s	like have like little asterisks beside
784s	the like
785s	the ones that are part of the builds
786s	you'd like know what your build was
790s	not huge on that the big problem with
792s	something like that is that you end up
794s	not learning the tree at all you end up
797s	not like the trees are fairly digestible
799s	i think so i i don't think it's
800s	unreasonable to ask people to learn
802s	even five trees really for for one
804s	character um and not even learn but just
807s	sort of like get a feel for it because
808s	if there's if you just have a way to
809s	like import a build and it's just like
811s	just click all the asterisks and just do
813s	what it says i think the vast majority
815s	of people would end up having no idea
817s	what any of the nodes do at all and it
819s	would really take away from anyone's
821s	ability to to have any sort of like
824s	experimentation
825s	and input and
827s	and like we want to really foster that
829s	um
830s	feeling of like seeing what's available
832s	and experimenting yourself a little bit
835s	uh so so yeah
837s	i'd say unlikely but possible
840s	uh always open to suggestions not the
843s	best time to stream pb leagues like yeah
845s	i know it's not the best time to stream
846s	right at the league start i i
848s	this is my
849s	standard slot it's what works best for a
851s	development cycle
853s	um
854s	and you know hits it hits a decent time
856s	frame for most of our our high
859s	uh like um
861s	density player base so like most of our
863s	players are in north america and europe
864s	and uh it's a decent time for a lot of
866s	people
867s	um we try and
869s	you know
871s	be consistent about it more than um
874s	dodge the pewee launch for a stream so
876s	it's i i i'm well aware that it's yeah
878s	yeah it
880s	will be much less engagement and i'll
882s	and
882s	like most people watch this on replay
885s	i'm assuming it super sped up speeds
888s	um
889s	or or recap videos as well thanks aaron
892s	and so you know it's it's it's fine i i
895s	like having this uh this time and
900s	being consistent it's more important to
901s	me than dodging that
903s	i'm just like
905s	wandering and not uh going where i
907s	should go at all
909s	maybe this is a little little backflip
911s	oh here we go
926s	all right
927s	let me get some more questions here what
929s	is the chance you go from zero nine
932s	uh i'm zooming to 1.0 as an epic troll
934s	to the community uh is the inspiration
936s	from another game when
941s	oh no maybe that is right oh point nine
943s	to point ten oh so so not a decimal
945s	version but a
947s	um
948s	a versioning
949s	number place so the so it's like 0.9
953s	0.10 0.11 yeah
957s	um
959s	i think that would be really mean
961s	for us to do especially given the the
964s	time frames and the lead-ups that we've
965s	had we've tried to space things out
969s	um
970s	such that we wouldn't have to do that
972s	and um because we we considered the
975s	numbering scheme
977s	when we launched point five
979s	we that's when we laid out
981s	what we wanted the numberings to be
983s	and um
985s	the third decimal for us is we agreed
988s	the third decimal would be that so like
990s	we could do like
992s	.812 that's okay but like
995s	we we tried to space it out such that by
998s	the time we got to 0.9
1000s	0.9 was the like
1002s	um
1004s	we're almost there type builds
1007s	and
1009s	not not planning on going to point 10.11
1012s	that's that's definitely not planned at
1014s	all
1015s	[Laughter]
1016s	it'll be funny though i agree
1018s	oh it'll be funny for the first like 10
1020s	seconds
1024s	my god
1026s	how's get going got your water oh i do
1028s	my water thanks
1030s	so much how's it going but you know i
1031s	really verbatim
1037s	a little fizz in that water hmm so good
1044s	played gloomhaven last night gloomhaven
1046s	the jaws of the lion
1050s	was great
1052s	we were uh
1054s	getting right down to the end of it
1055s	little side story time right down to the
1057s	end of it my buddy was like i'm going to
1058s	get exhausted if you like running the
1059s	cards you get exhausted you can still
1060s	win the scenario but you're like out for
1062s	the rest of it and i'm like
1064s	i'm just going to go for the boss as
1066s	much damage as i can
1067s	and like
1069s	pull the crit card
1070s	and just like
1071s	dealt over half the boss's health in one
1074s	one turn and just boom done and he
1076s	survived
1077s	it was great wrapped it up no problem no
1080s	sweat
1086s	not happening
1089s	highly recommend bloomhaven jaws the
1091s	lion over regular
1093s	gloomhaven i've not actually played
1095s	regular blue haven but i looked into
1096s	both quite heavily and uh
1100s	unless you have six hours
1103s	every day for
1104s	a year you're not getting through
1106s	regular gloom even
1111s	you also kind of need a 3d printer to
1112s	like
1113s	build the box inserts that you would
1115s	need
1118s	to make regular blue haven fun
1121s	all right back to this game are there
1123s	any plans to increase useless of
1124s	non-legendary uniques as some sort of
1127s	crafting fodder component something that
1129s	would at least incentivize those special
1131s	moments when you get those jobs pushed
1132s	towards them something useful for your
1133s	characters yeah that's something we
1135s	definitely considered and i think it's
1136s	important to um to look at that
1139s	because there are a lot of uniques that
1141s	you just you're like nah well just leave
1142s	it on the ground it's not even worth
1144s	like picking up for the like the
1146s	crafting mats or anything like that um
1150s	and i could see like some sort of system
1152s	along the lines of
1154s	like you can shatter uniques and there's
1156s	like
1157s	a chance to get certain mods off them or
1160s	uh maybe you can like shadow uniques and
1163s	there's a different material that comes
1164s	out of them or you can get like random
1166s	runes out of it or like
1167s	there's you can like build towards
1169s	descendants runes or something like that
1170s	you know there's there's lots of
1171s	different ways you can build systems
1173s	like that in um
1176s	there's there's this weird situation
1177s	that happens when you get to like super
1179s	late game and you're dropping like a lot
1182s	of unique items
1183s	and um
1186s	picking all of them up would be very
1189s	inventory micromanaging intensive and
1192s	avoiding that is also important
1194s	um
1196s	so it's it's tough to say exactly what
1198s	we do it would it would likely have to
1200s	be something that you'd be able to do on
1202s	the fly so you wouldn't have to go back
1204s	to town to do
1205s	not necessarily
1207s	so
1209s	maybe something you could do at least in
1211s	the
1212s	m rest uh the
1214s	the scene the the reward scene in
1216s	between
1218s	um
1219s	echoes i don't know the actual scene is
1221s	called like the zones called like this
1223s	one's called twisted mirror i don't know
1224s	what the proper name for it is
1226s	the
1227s	the scene code is m underscore rest
1238s	uh since local play will remain in point
1240s	post 0.9 does that mean single player
1242s	will be handled like minecraft does by
1244s	creating a local server no if so does
1246s	this also mean that lan multiplayer will
1248s	be relatively easy to implement no
1251s	very difficult lan multiplayer requires
1254s	us releasing our server code which is
1256s	something we are not overly enthusiastic
1259s	about doing
1266s	um this was an unfortunate concession we
1269s	made when designing our multiplayer
1270s	systems
1271s	um
1273s	but
1274s	will likely mean that multiplayer will
1275s	release a year earlier than it would
1277s	otherwise have
1289s	land land mode's kind of up in the air
1290s	it's something we we decided was
1292s	um would have been really nice but
1295s	uh it's more important to get the game
1296s	out and finished than to include it
1299s	at least
1303s	initially and things change so who knows
1305s	ooh keepers gloves love them
1307s	no i'll drop everything
1314s	my goodness mike you just kill things
1316s	first and then pick stuff up what are
1317s	you doing
1323s	don't worry i'm a professional
1328s	gloves i want them
1336s	all right
1337s	uh as a game dev
1339s	uh what do you think about designing a
1342s	game that is
1343s	uh
1344s	portable to multiple platforms like
1346s	switch or xbox versus making a game on
1348s	pc only where ui customization player
1350s	created mods are more possible can you
1352s	do both or do you have to focus on
1355s	either or
1356s	um
1360s	i i think that
1364s	so i think there's a lot of pros and
1365s	cons to to doing cross-platform stuff or
1367s	even just multi-platform stuff um the
1370s	the biggest obvious bonus to doing it is
1373s	you hit you hit a wider player base so
1375s	not everyone has um
1377s	not everyone has a gaming pc
1379s	you know it's
1381s	everyone that can just like afford a
1382s	switch
1384s	you you can get a like a lot wider
1386s	player
1387s	base
1389s	there's a lot that goes into making
1391s	console games that i have zero
1393s	experience personally with um but i've
1396s	talked to like you go to conventions and
1397s	you talk to other people in the booths
1399s	beside you um you make you make friends
1401s	at conventions that are it's just
1402s	awesome i love love conventions for just
1404s	like meeting your booth neighbors that's
1406s	like one of my favorite parts anyways um
1408s	we we talked to a lot of people who like
1410s	make are making console games
1413s	and most of them had made them before
1415s	um but everyone whose first time it was
1417s	that i talked to was just like blown
1419s	away with the amount of
1420s	um
1422s	like
1422s	startup
1424s	red tape that goes with a lot of it
1427s	um especially uh well yeah it doesn't
1429s	matter and and so i i think the
1432s	like the key part about making a
1434s	crossover title that does both is
1436s	um
1440s	is is just controller support right off
1442s	the bat and that's something we did
1443s	start with because we knew how much done
1445s	this one
1446s	something we knew that we were planning
1447s	on having is controller support
1449s	originally and so
1452s	as long as you can really have that
1453s	controller support it doesn't really
1454s	matter i also think that the whole
1456s	um
1458s	the whole like mods no mods thing with
1460s	like your pc version that's mods and
1462s	your console version doesn't it can it
1464s	can lead to a little bit of like
1467s	um
1468s	like mod envy from the other side type
1471s	thing and
1472s	yeah that's not
1474s	awesome
1475s	um
1478s	but at the same time i don't think it's
1480s	that huge of a deal breaker really like
1482s	as long as you make the game
1486s	if you make the game with
1488s	mods being an integral part of the game
1490s	right from the start
1492s	you better make the console version
1494s	moddable as well type thing
1496s	um
1497s	if you're making the game to be a
1500s	like
1501s	a complete product without mods and like
1503s	communities create modding communities
1506s	out after the fact i don't think it
1508s	matters that the console version doesn't
1510s	have access to those
1511s	that'll be my personal opinion on it
1513s	um
1533s	was it the whole question
1538s	multiple games yeah i think those head
1540s	covers gonna set you any more follow-ups
1541s	please feel free to ask i'll go deeper
1545s	just some general musings for you
1554s	i was thinking about an idea
1557s	let me know when you finished that
1558s	thought
1559s	i i see i see you checked more down
1561s	lower and i just i thought that was
1563s	that's cute so i said it like that
1565s	anyways uh next question hey there is
1567s	the game plan for a 2022 release bought
1569s	it on steam already but have been
1571s	holding off starting to play until
1572s	official release we don't have a set
1574s	release date that we're like it's good
1576s	we're like here's the target
1578s	um that we're that we're gonna share at
1580s	all
1581s	mostly because like the it's gonna be
1584s	released when it's ready and we're not
1585s	gonna put uh
1588s	this is done stamp on it until we're
1590s	happy with it
1591s	um
1593s	done might be the wrong word ready
1597s	so sorry i can't give you an answer
1599s	or like i guess the answer is
1602s	no but it's also not not planned for
1605s	that like
1606s	you know
1618s	hey guys how do you think the ailment
1621s	changes
1622s	planned will affect in general the
1624s	current dot builds that use those
1625s	elements any visible nerfs and buffs um
1629s	there's not
1631s	like
1632s	the primary dots
1635s	um
1638s	yeah okay so there's there are
1640s	technically like poison does get a
1642s	slight nerf from this in in party play
1644s	primarily
1646s	um
1649s	and some extreme single player cases
1653s	but i don't think that's uh
1657s	too surprising to anyone who plays in
1658s	those extreme cases or has tried the
1660s	multiplayer versions of them because my
1662s	goodness it was broken um
1672s	yeah it's
1676s	it's it's less about yeah specific
1679s	balance changes and we're adding more
1681s	features to the system
1683s	um
1691s	and there are balance changes happening
1693s	those are but i don't know if they're
1694s	off on my head
1705s	kane in here right now more actually
1708s	oh ryan murphy's here
1712s	not happening
1719s	you guys made legendary really
1721s	interesting with legendary potential
1722s	good idea for set items would be nice
1724s	something too personally i was thinking
1725s	about making the items stats on those be
1727s	a lot more
1728s	bigger to hit perfect step stats
1732s	um
1734s	so when you hit you could be happy oh
1736s	just just increasing the stat with the
1737s	roll ranges on set items i see you're
1739s	saying
1740s	yeah i don't i don't think that's um
1743s	like a long-term solution for the system
1748s	um just because it's it it doesn't have
1750s	any progression in it like you're not
1753s	necessarily finding the
1755s	um
1758s	like you're not starting with like the
1760s	the base versions and then like finding
1761s	better versions always you might you
1764s	have the same chance of finding a good
1766s	version to start as you do a bad version
1768s	to start typing
1770s	and as we've learned people hate
1772s	weighted rolls my goodness that gets so
1776s	much negative feedback it's crazy
1781s	even when you put the fact that it's
1782s	weighted and how it's weighted in the
1783s	tooltips my goodness that's a that's a
1786s	negative response
1787s	um
1791s	so you can't you can't say like okay
1793s	it's got like a
1795s	10 chance to be above the 50 mark you
1797s	know one percent chance to be above the
1799s	90 mark or anything like that you just
1801s	got to be like
1803s	there it is
1807s	not happening
1812s	so yeah i think i think there's
1814s	like the ideal solution for set items is
1817s	likely something
1819s	more
1820s	like
1823s	like
1823s	empowering them in some way some sort of
1826s	like in the same way that rewards happen
1828s	for completing the temple sanctum um
1833s	having those
1835s	be like rewards for another dungeon for
1836s	changing set items that you already have
1838s	in some mechanically functional
1840s	like different way
1842s	i think would be more appropriate
1851s	oh yeah
1852s	okay uh i heard your question name i
1854s	just was um
1855s	answering a question about the ailment
1858s	change and unlike
1859s	i uh
1861s	i don't have any specific buffs or nerfs
1862s	that i can remember off the top of my
1863s	head but you might remember some
1867s	they're also very heavily subject to
1868s	change still between now and patch so
1871s	a lot of the a lot of the fine balancing
1873s	stuff happens really close
1875s	uh to patch day because that's when like
1877s	all the features are in
1903s	oh
1912s	uh good evening good evening
1915s	any plans uh to read the passive tree
1917s	system no more specifically the respect
1919s	part of the in the upcoming patch um
1922s	not specifically no
1923s	um i i know a lot of people have
1925s	requested for
1926s	um
1928s	like more flowing
1931s	respect system where you can where it's
1933s	less clicks and things like that we did
1934s	we did had a i know this is like minor
1937s	concessions type thing we did add in the
1940s	the like accept button you can use the
1942s	enter key on now this might actually be
1944s	in the game already i can test it out um
1946s	that was a while ago so like it's it is
1949s	smoother to do it
1950s	um because you can just be like respect
1953s	enter respect enter you don't like move
1954s	your mouse cursor as much
1958s	um
1960s	but as far as just like
1962s	right click to remove left click to add
1964s	or like a respect all button um
1968s	that that's
1969s	not currently being worked on by anyone
1985s	yeah okay that's what i thought
1991s	does the item mod system support
1993s	negative roll values i'm curious if last
1995s	epoch will ever get an item like
1998s	venter's gamble
2001s	so you hit me with poe items i'm
2003s	assuming that i don't know exactly what
2005s	they do so i'm gonna go look it up
2007s	ventures gamble is uh has increased
2010s	rarity so we wouldn't have that mod
2015s	um
2016s	oh i see what you're saying something so
2018s	like
2020s	it has negative 10 to 10 increase
2024s	quantity of items found yeah that's not
2026s	a negative roll system so much as just
2029s	the ranges can start at a negative value
2031s	and yeah we can do that
2038s	like
2039s	yeah
2047s	that's that's a really cool item
2048s	actually like that
2054s	i've never seen that item before
2061s	wow it's not even it's not even that
2062s	crazy new
2064s	oh wow
2073s	let's find us
2078s	do we have a unique let's give a couple
2079s	unique see what we see
2093s	you could technically roll a zero and
2094s	all stats in the completely blank that's
2096s	hilarious
2098s	[Laughter]
2100s	that's really good i i i like that a lot
2107s	it's just a nothing item
2111s	that like
2112s	that would be what i'd be going for i'd
2113s	be like oh go get that nothing item yeah
2120s	there's uh
2122s	there's a magic card called one with
2124s	nothing
2125s	that is
2126s	just
2129s	fantastic one of those cards that people
2131s	read when they start playing the game
2132s	they're just like well this is the worst
2134s	card ever printed and you're like well
2135s	yes but actually no
2147s	oh all it does it's it's one mana
2149s	discard your hand that's that's all the
2151s	card
2158s	i does have to drop something might have
2159s	to drop something ugh
2162s	i don't want this one i have this
2178s	one in six billion yeah i mean
2186s	not surprising are there other people do
2189s	people sell them where they're like
2190s	close to nothing
2195s	let's try some some nothing ones on
2197s	trade sites
2200s	for standard
2209s	oh
2211s	bad bad hops
2223s	it's been a crazy tournament i'm just
2225s	gonna talk about the world genius for a
2226s	second because my goodness hockey's
2227s	awesome this tournament's just so good
2230s	for the first time ever
2232s	latvia won a game at this tournament
2234s	they've never won a game at the
2235s	tournament before ever
2237s	and they they did they won a game and
2239s	then they got an overtime loss which put
2241s	them in third place in their group like
2244s	what they didn't even properly qualify
2246s	for the tournament came third in their
2247s	group
2248s	and then um
2250s	they managed to have a great showing in
2252s	the quarterfinals which was awesome to
2254s	see
2255s	um
2257s	and the team that they beat then beat
2259s	the tournament defending champions and
2261s	favorite to win the whole thing the usa
2264s	uh
2265s	in in the quarterfinals
2267s	uh which was just a mind-boggling
2271s	uh offset as well which was which was
2273s	such a good game it was crazy
2275s	uh and now now canada's playing chelsea
2277s	too
2278s	judges had a crazy tournament
2280s	rollercoaster ride
2296s	it's down to canada cheshire sweden and
2298s	finland sweden finland playing in a few
2299s	hours
2301s	also going to be a great game
2305s	finland's been a powerhouse of this
2307s	tournament lately
2319s	all right any more questions for me
2321s	uh how do you feel about sub skills
2324s	mostly not getting affected by
2325s	conversion for example tornado can
2327s	convert to fire but the storm orbs and
2330s	lightning bolts effect remain unchanged
2333s	yeah it's a tricky thing to do um
2338s	i think a lot of the times yeah
2347s	i think i think every single one of them
2348s	is a case by case basis
2350s	first off um on whether or not it should
2352s	actually do it or not
2353s	i think oh a 2lp i mean it's kind of
2355s	shitty but you know whatever uh still
2357s	cool 2lp
2359s	i think that it's it's very much
2360s	case-by-case basis and
2362s	um
2368s	uh tornado's a fairly old skill in
2370s	general so having it
2373s	not propagate conversions like that is
2375s	unsurprising
2376s	um
2378s	i think you see those conversions being
2380s	propagated a lot more frequently on
2382s	newer skills or skills we've updated
2383s	more recently um
2387s	part of that had to do with the
2389s	um
2391s	just just the workload that was required
2393s	for things like that so um
2396s	if if you have each one of them convert
2399s	let's say so let's let's say you have um
2402s	an ability
2404s	that has three sub skills
2407s	and
2408s	um
2411s	you you that you then want to con you
2412s	want to convert the skill to another
2414s	element
2415s	um
2416s	if you also convert a little sub skills
2417s	that adds an extra
2420s	oh wow that's a nice helmet that also
2422s	adds an extra um
2426s	what am i trying to say an extra like
2429s	three
2430s	skills you have to create that all have
2432s	their own bfx and everything
2434s	um
2440s	fire damage not ideal
2444s	this is a great bow for the one i'm
2445s	playing online right now
2448s	um
2450s	anyways what am i getting so yeah all
2451s	the sub skills and then then you put a
2452s	so now now that you've um
2454s	you've done those three extra skills
2456s	and
2458s	um you set the precedence that when you
2459s	do a conversion it converts all the sub
2461s	skills as well
2462s	so then then you add in a second
2464s	conversion so then now can us another
2466s	conversion instead of it just being one
2468s	skill to convert it has the
2471s	um the technical debt of having to
2472s	convert all the sub skills as well so uh
2475s	one skill conversion suddenly becomes a
2477s	four skill conversion
2479s	and then um
2481s	once you do that if you want to add
2482s	another sub skill anywhere in the tree
2484s	uh suddenly instead of just adding one
2487s	skill you have to add three skills
2488s	because there's two conversions that go
2489s	with it as well and it's it's this
2491s	multiplicative effect that happens every
2492s	time you add either a new sub skill or a
2494s	new conversion it just multiplies by the
2496s	number of the other categories there is
2499s	um
2501s	so that's probably why in the past we
2503s	haven't always done it this way now
2506s	our ability to make skills um
2509s	efficiently and awesome
2511s	has uh definitely increased in speed
2514s	uh
2515s	inefficiency
2516s	better than it ever has been so i think
2518s	there's more room for us in our pipeline
2520s	to do those things
2522s	and i think it's likely we'll see more
2524s	and more of those as we go forward
2528s	which i know doesn't help in the
2529s	consistency of it right now which is
2531s	frustrating probably
2532s	um
2534s	usually the ones we prioritize
2536s	converting are ones that are really
2538s	um thematically appropriate and
2540s	functionally synergistic so fire is a
2543s	pretty low synergy element on
2546s	uh primeless in general it's a secondary
2548s	element so there's not a lot of fire
2550s	anywhere now that that might be the the
2552s	flip side of that argument as well
2553s	there's not much so you should like
2555s	support it where you can type thing and
2557s	and yeah that's probably true so i'd say
2559s	probably should convert them
2562s	um
2565s	but that's uh i guess an insight into
2567s	why we haven't in some situations yet
2573s	but if there's specific things like that
2574s	that you want to suggest this converting
2576s	it's always a great uh
2579s	type of thing to suggest yeah
2580s	but so oh sorry there's a follow-up
2582s	question in the middle of that while i
2582s	was rambling but if it's always a
2584s	case-by-case basis how can a player
2586s	learn what to expect from scale nodes
2588s	also even newer skills like static corp
2589s	don't convert effects like charged
2591s	ground even though the vfx does change
2594s	that just sounds like a bug if the vfx
2595s	is changing the functionality should
2597s	change too
2608s	that is a cool helmet
2613s	there's quite a few um i like the belt
2616s	there's quite a few things that are just
2617s	not consistent yet that we are still
2618s	working through
2619s	um
2621s	so much of the game for so long
2623s	um
2624s	has has just sort of been like
2627s	like oh i made this thing let's put it
2629s	in oh i made this thing let's put it in
2631s	um
2632s	and a couple years ago a lot more
2633s	formalized and structured with a lot of
2635s	a lot of the processes um which has been
2637s	phenomenal
2640s	um but it means we're still catching up
2641s	on some of that
2644s	technical debt of being less organized
2652s	i really like this zone it's one of my
2653s	favorite layouts
2673s	here we go here we go
2678s	gonna like take a break in the middle of
2679s	this to like watch a replay or something
2682s	i won't
2683s	want you so bad
2689s	all right another question can we hope
2690s	to have more special notes that interact
2692s	with monolith web-like vessels of chaos
2694s	and memory uh yeah i i would assume that
2697s	will be an area we'll be expanding into
2700s	um i don't think there's anything
2702s	specifically planned like on the books
2704s	to to go in yet but i bet i bet your
2706s	stokie has
2707s	has a few things in mind he's usually
2709s	usually when there's things like that
2710s	he's like he's got like a list of in his
2712s	head just like oh one day i'll put this
2714s	in it'll be great
2717s	um
2723s	other half that question also do you
2725s	guys wish to try and make corruption
2727s	more segmented based on an expected
2730s	amount of difficulty a certain
2732s	uh it's a corrected or correlated level
2735s	oh corruption level corruption level um
2738s	i might have to drop something
2740s	so this is this is an interesting
2742s	topic and it's a pretty deep one too
2746s	oh that that's big big life on those
2749s	boots what's that gonna make
2753s	another one with that
2756s	oh i should go do that
2759s	maybe i'll hit life again
2763s	um i
2764s	this is a really interesting topic
2766s	and i think it's the sort of thing
2767s	that's going to evolve a little bit as
2769s	we get more people in and playing
2771s	especially once multiplayer is live so i
2772s	i don't foresee many
2775s	um
2776s	many changes to it before like
2779s	i don't see many changes to it but 4.9
2782s	um
2783s	but i could see changes to it between
2785s	point nine and one
2787s	um maybe
2789s	type thing so there's
2791s	corruption is a really interesting
2792s	mechanic and it's pretty granular right
2794s	now
2795s	um
2797s	which which definitely has pluses and
2799s	minuses for sure and we get feedback to
2800s	the effect both ways lots
2803s	um
2805s	and so i don't know
2808s	if we'll see any major changes to that
2810s	at all but um
2814s	yeah it's there's there's a lot of
2817s	control in the monologue there's a lot
2819s	of player agency over your difficulties
2821s	there's a lot of things you can do to
2823s	make it more difficult or easier
2826s	um
2828s	and i think sometimes
2831s	the
2832s	uh
2835s	the the carrots presented really clearly
2840s	like at a glance you can see what the
2842s	carrots are on let's go to a section i
2844s	haven't done this quite as heavily um
2847s	really easily really quickly you can see
2848s	the carrots like there's there's a sword
2850s	there there's money there there's a ring
2852s	there there's shards there there's a
2853s	scepter there there's shards there
2854s	there's glyphs there there's a ring
2856s	there set one there's idols there like
2858s	you can see those really quickly at a
2860s	glance there's no way to see the
2862s	difficulty changes that all of those are
2864s	going to do at a glance you have to
2865s	actually mouse over them and see like
2866s	okay this one's going to have enemies
2868s	deal 26 29 more damage for four uh four
2871s	echoes this one's going to give them a
2872s	glancing blow chance you know like this
2874s	one's going to give them more glancing
2876s	blow like a lot of that is just like it
2878s	just blends in
2880s	um and and this right here as well it's
2882s	like what modifiers you have right now i
2885s	think a lot of that just sort of like
2887s	vanishes a little bit and doesn't get
2889s	taken into like i know i don't look at
2890s	that so enemies have armor shred chance
2892s	like enemies gonna be shredding your
2893s	armor hard here
2896s	like do i want do i want to risk that
2898s	whatever i want the experience let's go
2900s	right
2901s	and um
2904s	so like there's a lot of player agency
2907s	over
2908s	the difficulty that doesn't necessarily
2910s	get taken into account very
2913s	uh prominently
2916s	um so i think that's that's an issue
2918s	with the system right now
2921s	um i'm not sure how to fix that
2923s	personally
2924s	um
2928s	they're like we we've definitely talked
2930s	about having corruption be like
2932s	um like take take just divide corruption
2935s	by 10 and multiply its effect by 10 you
2938s	know like
2939s	so instead of it being
2941s	um
2942s	like starting at 100 corruption started
2944s	10 corruption
2946s	or maybe 10 we divide by five you know
2949s	started 50 crores
2951s	and
2955s	um so far
2957s	we we we're we're not doing that yet
2959s	maybe not at all but it's um
2963s	there are discussions we do have from
2965s	time to time
2980s	um
2983s	are you planning on adding some point
2985s	threshold nodes
2986s	yeah it's a sentinel and ac like yeah
2988s	yeah point threshold nodes are going to
2989s	become a standard stable for all
2992s	um for all skill trees that are in the
2994s	game
2995s	um
2996s	well definitely all passive trees i
2998s	think like the way the system is built
2999s	they can also be put in skill tree uh
3002s	nodes as well i'd like to see them there
3004s	i think i think there's room for for
3005s	that it's an interesting mechanic in
3007s	more than just the passive train um we
3009s	don't have any in skill tree nodes yet
3011s	they're only in passive trees
3014s	but i think it could appear in both
3039s	i think somebody probably already asked
3041s	us but do you guys have a plan to add
3042s	new mastery based on yours
3045s	on or skill i think someone probably
3047s	already asked this but do you guys have
3049s	any plan
3050s	to add a new mastery based on or skill
3054s	with bass or conversions to void ah
3058s	other than void knight and new items
3060s	that converts volcanic orb yes
3065s	folk which might win no idea uh it will
3070s	um i think it's really interesting space
3072s	to expand into
3073s	um
3075s	it's it's not something that was
3079s	like so in our original plans for the
3081s	class system like back when there's only
3083s	two masteries per class
3085s	um
3087s	and
3088s	like when we first started out doing it
3090s	like we didn't have any follow-up
3092s	masteries planned at all
3094s	um
3094s	just like talking four years ago or
3096s	whatever original version of it had only
3099s	the void knight as the as the only void
3102s	using
3103s	mastery
3106s	um and i think it's really interesting
3107s	when
3108s	um when there is unique stuff like that
3110s	like like something to to
3113s	to make that
3115s	like character flavor kind of unique
3116s	where it's the only one that's like
3117s	really void focused
3119s	um
3121s	we do have plans for other masteries
3124s	for existing classes to get void
3126s	versions of them or like void
3130s	uh leaning versions of them or avoid
3133s	like utilizing versions of
3135s	them um
3138s	i'm not gonna tell you which classes
3140s	those would be for
3141s	um
3144s	but there's there's a few options there
3145s	we've come up with there's there's one
3147s	that's almost guaranteed to happen
3150s	host 1.0
3151s	like for
3163s	one of the classes we've had a void
3164s	mastery planned for a while now
3168s	and it'll be post 1.0
3172s	so that's quite a ways out that's sort
3173s	of that's that's real far away
3179s	but we do keep it in mind when designing
3180s	other skills and things for that class
3183s	which is interesting
3188s	yeah
3189s	let's go with that
3195s	who knows if mike will finally say rude
3196s	master will be avoid based mastery i i
3198s	think that would be
3200s	a really shocking thing for me to say
3204s	and wildly out of character to lie so
3206s	faith so so so so badly
3239s	that's a lie so it's a hundred percent
3241s	not void then
3244s	i don't know you have to watch the tape
3246s	back and see what i said
3255s	i'm actually remember what i said now
3267s	what does the
3271s	that's kind of misleading too
3275s	let's try to have some fun with it
3283s	no
3284s	remaster is not planned to be avoid
3286s	mastery
3294s	yeah i gotta be careful what i say i
3295s	know but i i don't want to be uh i don't
3298s	want to be putting any rumors out there
3300s	that are suddenly gonna be like oh my
3301s	god it's that and then i'd be like no i
3303s	was
3304s	just
3305s	having fun on stream and it's not
3307s	actually that
3315s	i hate when i actually put up
3316s	misinformation because i
3318s	because i i talk sneaky sometimes and
3320s	sometimes i mess up
3329s	i do try to be very careful especially
3330s	when posting on text on forums and
3332s	things like that
3333s	um and it's really interesting because
3335s	like i see myself get misquoted every
3337s	single day
3339s	on on forums
3340s	it like it's it's nuts how often it
3343s	happens
3344s	and it's always really subtle
3346s	differences
3347s	um
3350s	and i try and correct it when i see it
3351s	but it's like
3353s	sometimes makes you think like
3355s	how
3356s	how many do i miss
3358s	and then people are disappointed when it
3359s	doesn't happen i feel bad
3366s	i think i missed your last question i
3367s	did i'm sorry i will uh
3370s	i will go back to it
3372s	post haste
3374s	when i'm not dead
3379s	oh i got my xp boon
3381s	that's all that's all i want have you
3383s	considered making damage scaling
3386s	inherent to the level of a skill and
3388s	removing
3389s	most sources of more damage in skill
3391s	trees this would allow more for more
3393s	choices in
3395s	uh
3396s	in directly customizing the function of
3397s	a skill instead of grabbing as many
3399s	damage multipliers as possible
3403s	um so short answer is yes we've
3404s	considered that um
3406s	and and i know it's such a compound
3408s	answer so if you consider this i mean
3410s	probably yeah um
3412s	but but yes the
3415s	i think there are too many
3420s	i think the
3422s	distribution of more damaged nodes
3424s	throughout the skill tree
3426s	is too inconsistent for what it should
3429s	be um so there's some trees that have a
3432s	lot of more damaged nodes and some trees
3433s	that have almost none or in some cases
3435s	probably no more damaged nodes
3438s	um
3439s	and i think i think having that be more
3441s	consistent would help quite a bit in in
3443s	the power level of
3445s	um
3447s	of where damage is coming from just
3449s	skill to skill
3450s	then on top of that i think there's that
3452s	the the more damage nodes that do exist
3455s	probably have too many points available
3456s	to go in them
3458s	um
3459s	and they're probably too much damage per
3460s	point
3462s	we do still want people to be able to
3463s	invest in damage in a skill tree
3466s	but
3467s	it's
3468s	so clearly the right choice
3471s	in almost every situation
3474s	that it's it's less
3476s	it's not interesting anymore like you're
3478s	just
3479s	i like the sort of the
3482s	that's not even a joke just the way that
3483s	it's done most the time is just like
3485s	open the skill tree type more and take
3487s	all the nodes that flash you know and
3490s	um
3492s	that's that's not ideal
3495s	um i also think that there
3499s	likely is
3501s	not enough emphasis on items for damage
3504s	scaling in general with the way steel
3506s	trees work
3507s	um
3509s	and that that is something we're
3510s	addressing
3511s	like this is i don't mean kind of vague
3512s	about this but oh okay come on
3514s	that was great time to take your hand
3516s	off the keyboard mike so smart
3519s	um
3521s	it's my void reds that's not max
3537s	um
3538s	i was talking about stuff wasn't i about
3540s	about scaling and skills referencing
3542s	each other i i think removing all of the
3544s	more damage
3545s	okay uh damage scaling per level is
3548s	something we considered um
3552s	i think it's unlikely to happen
3554s	[Music]
3555s	um mostly because
3559s	that puts uh that makes
3562s	uh
3562s	it puts an even stronger emphasis on
3565s	never respecting skills
3567s	um than there already is because you can
3570s	quite often grab the damage nodes you
3572s	need quickly when respecting um and then
3574s	fill out some of the functional ones
3576s	later or if there's really key
3577s	functional ones you can grab those right
3578s	away and then fill the damaged ones
3579s	later but still um if if the damage was
3582s	so heavily tied to the level of the
3584s	skill uh respecting would become even
3588s	harder to do um
3591s	and we're trying to find a striking good
3592s	balance there so i think that there's
3594s	um there's room to pull back on the
3597s	damage associated with with nodes on the
3599s	skill tree um both in quantity of nodes
3602s	number of points that can go in those
3603s	nodes and values per point in those
3606s	nodes um
3609s	and
3610s	like
3611s	some or all of those in each case and
3613s	it's always the case by case basis on
3615s	how we do each one of them um and we're
3617s	like replacing some of those nodes with
3618s	extra things or or adding more
3620s	mechanically unique things to some of
3622s	those nodes or you know like
3625s	spicing them up a little bit making them
3626s	more interesting we do try and put
3628s	slightly less complex nodes near the
3630s	center um so we've got like attack speed
3633s	attack speed scaling up uh there's
3636s	uh
3637s	ailment application stuff just flat
3639s	damage
3642s	you know there's this one's a little
3643s	more complicated it's not right at the
3644s	start uh and then like leech and it's
3647s	because slurry it's based on each
3649s	uh each hit so there's like
3652s	you generally get these like more
3653s	straightforward you can explain it in
3655s	like one point and then you get
3656s	as you branch off you start getting like
3659s	um triggered buffs that come into play
3661s	and they have like named buffs with
3663s	certain effects and then things that
3664s	modify those buffs and things like that
3666s	and you start you start getting
3668s	more detailed as you go out now there's
3670s	not a lot of
3674s	basic simple less detailed easy to
3677s	understand i don't know the right term
3678s	for it is there but but more
3680s	straightforward nodes in the center um
3683s	and there's not a lot of different
3684s	things you can do
3686s	and so quite often we do end up putting
3688s	more damage in there somewhere
3691s	um and here this bill doesn't take it
3694s	um
3695s	it's not always the best thing to take i
3696s	guess
3698s	um
3700s	but you know like there's
3704s	sometimes it's hard to get those ones in
3706s	the center to be really nice
3708s	um and straightforward and
3710s	like unique so you don't just have like
3712s	every single no tree has a crit node
3717s	i think we are also learning more as we
3719s	develop more skill trees like the
3721s	process for making skill trees is
3723s	evolving still too like
3724s	we we started making skill trees a whole
3727s	new way for the most recent skill trees
3729s	we've done
3733s	which was
3734s	just pretty great it was it was awesome
3736s	like the ideation where we're
3739s	uh where we just get together and just
3740s	like throw everything we can at a wall
3743s	and see what sticks um
3745s	the formatting we used for that we
3747s	changed
3748s	uh in our last last ideation meeting
3751s	for a skill tree
3753s	for a skill that's gonna get made
3769s	pretty close to fighting the boss here i
3771s	want to get in there quick
3774s	i'm going to go make another legendary i
3775s	think
3786s	oh i hope that answered that question i
3788s	kind of rambled for a bit there i don't
3789s	know if i hit everything in there
3793s	but i hope that was i hope that was a
3794s	good one
3797s	uh have you spoke about playing with
3799s	higher or low lower level players in
3801s	multiplayer will we scale up or scale
3804s	down to match them or do we have to
3806s	match level of play together
3808s	great question um what i'll tell you
3810s	i'll tell you how we have it currently
3812s	set up which is how it's planned to be
3815s	um but i do just want to put a giant
3816s	asterisk beside this answer before i
3818s	answer it which is this is subject to
3820s	change because it is a multiplayer
3823s	feature that is quite
3825s	um
3827s	i would say subject to feedback pretty
3829s	heavily this is the type of thing that
3830s	like
3831s	um you get enough overwhelming feedback
3833s	from your player base on and you listen
3835s	pretty closely
3837s	uh so if if after you've tried it
3840s	i know it's i know uh like okay you can
3842s	you can it's totally fine to get
3843s	feedback before you tried it but just
3845s	know that this is the sort of thing that
3847s	i think really
3849s	is important to try and will probably
3851s	wait feedback of people that have tried
3853s	it heavier um so once you get a chance
3855s	to try it i encourage you to give
3856s	feedback on this topic
3858s	um
3862s	uh question well yeah like playing out
3864s	playing down level scaling is there any
3865s	sort of stuff like that
3867s	so currently the system is such that
3869s	there is no level scaling in place at
3872s	all if you are a level 100 and you go to
3874s	level one zone you are dealing level 100
3876s	damage and you are
3877s	slaughtering stuff like you're like a
3879s	level 100 god you are
3881s	um
3882s	if you are a level one then you go into
3884s	a level 100 zone you are getting your
3886s	ass handed to you like a level one nude
3887s	that you are
3888s	um
3890s	it is it is there's nothing there the um
3893s	one mechanic that is related um that
3896s	question comes up as the next question
3897s	after this is okay if i'm a level one in
3899s	a level 100 zone and i've got a level
3900s	100 carrying me am i gaining experience
3903s	like in the level 100 zone like normal
3905s	no you're gaining level experience it's
3908s	the same way that's already in game now
3910s	you cannot gain experience faster than
3913s	five levels above your current level so
3915s	right now
3918s	level 96 it doesn't matter so in that
3920s	situation where a level 1 is in a level
3922s	100 zone
3923s	and like an enemy dies you gain
3926s	experience as though that enemy was
3928s	level 6 because that's 5 levels higher
3930s	than what you are so it still is an
3932s	increase
3934s	and to power level someone the most
3935s	efficient way would be would likely be
3937s	to just take them to a zone where they
3939s	could survive
3940s	um while the high level player
3943s	um kills things rather quickly so like i
3946s	don't know an early monolith perhaps
3949s	where uh the level 100 could just cruise
3951s	through no problem and
3953s	um the level one would still level up as
3955s	those level six zone but would be pretty
3957s	quick and then um
3960s	you'd be able to keep going and
3962s	you wouldn't out level the level
3964s	differential bonus
3965s	or penalty too fast
3968s	that makes any sense
3970s	um
3973s	and then the the other follow-up
3975s	question that usually comes when i
3976s	answer something like that is whoa whoa
3977s	whoa mike you're saying that i can take
3978s	a level one into the monolith yeah um if
3981s	you've got a friend that you've partied
3982s	with and uh so right now you can just
3986s	like the party frames show up here where
3988s	there's like a little
3990s	um
3992s	like a little portrait of the person
3993s	um and this little
3995s	little portal button right beside their
3997s	name
3997s	a little like blue portal button
4000s	and you tap that and it opens it opens
4003s	your your town portal just like normal
4006s	except instead of town portal it says
4007s	their name at the top and it just takes
4008s	you to them
4009s	um
4011s	so if they go stand in the monolith and
4012s	you jump to them then you're in the
4013s	monolith
4015s	um
4022s	yeah
4023s	that's that's the way it is right now
4025s	and so just to reiterate the asterisks i
4027s	started this off with is this all of
4030s	these systems that i just talked about
4031s	are subject to change based on player
4033s	feedback and data we collect in
4036s	multiplayer
4037s	see how it plays and feels and
4038s	everything like that
4039s	right now we're pretty happy with it
4040s	actually um
4044s	and and we did get some feedback
4046s	regarding that from our initial cts
4049s	which was very useful
4053s	easy too easy
4060s	i hope that answer your question
4062s	all right
4070s	uh i see someone who's pointed out a
4071s	spelling error uh thank you uh we do if
4074s	you if you want to get that uh i i will
4076s	not write that down right now and uh
4080s	because i'm not working on the main
4082s	branch so i can't change that right now
4084s	um
4085s	so it'll just sit in like a sticky note
4087s	on my desktop for a month and i'll
4088s	forget about it so if you want it
4090s	actually changed uh our discord server
4092s	has a
4094s	um
4096s	uh tooltip hunt thread uh twitter fun
4098s	channel that you can post a screenshot
4100s	of the mistake in and
4103s	someone someone goes through there
4105s	near a patch and tries tries to grab all
4107s	the all the relevant ones and and fix
4109s	them if we can
4113s	but yes there are many mistakes in
4115s	tooltip still around around the game
4120s	all right in terms of making people a
4123s	reluctant to respect if damage is tied
4125s	to skill level you can make it a
4127s	function of a of the higher your skill
4130s	level
4132s	or character level like two yeah okay so
4134s	like yeah um two times minimum skill
4137s	level once you get your minimum skill
4138s	level is 10 all your skills count as low
4140s	level 20 for damage yeah you can do
4142s	something like that that would that
4143s	would probably solve that problem
4146s	um we i still don't want to
4149s	um
4151s	tie the damage
4154s	like as heavily to like so so having
4157s	damaged nodes in skill trees i think is
4159s	still good i think there's just there's
4161s	it's just too much right now
4163s	um so i don't want to take those out
4165s	because it still is that option those
4167s	things you can sacrifice to get more
4169s	functionality out of the skill it still
4171s	is like it's still useful to have in
4172s	there um
4175s	and i think if we had any of those and
4177s	then also putting just damage for level
4179s	on there
4180s	uh it it would be
4183s	tricky you you could do
4186s	hmm
4189s	you could scale here's what you could do
4192s	the uh so this so flurry gets four
4195s	percent
4196s	increased damage per point
4199s	you could scale that based on
4201s	character level
4203s	or possibly
4205s	um
4207s	skill level
4209s	or s
4210s	i think i think you just do a character
4211s	level really you could do skill level
4218s	yeah you could just i don't know that's
4220s	hard to do you do like one percent more
4222s	per point per
4225s	five skill levels or something like that
4227s	you know
4229s	um
4231s	or like the
4232s	and this this is part of the problem is
4233s	it gets so complicated and it's so hard
4235s	to understand that's that's really an
4237s	important thing is having it be
4238s	easily understandable and so you'd end
4241s	up with like
4242s	uh one percent more uh damage per point
4246s	of dexterity
4248s	uh
4248s	per
4250s	five levels of skill
4252s	or two times your minimum skill level
4254s	whichever is higher
4257s	it's just like
4258s	uh
4260s	what
4261s	something like that it's just keeping
4263s	the complexity down it's important i
4264s	guess this is all i'm trying to say
4265s	there
4267s	what do you say what do we got what mods
4269s	do we have we have increased health and
4270s	damage and they enraged half health oh
4272s	that enrage
4274s	i don't even want to pull that off for
4276s	the boss
4277s	just giving it more health is probably
4279s	good
4280s	high health enemies take less damage
4282s	that might be good
4289s	i want to just do another one so i can
4291s	take a mod off i think
4310s	yeah i knew this just just high health
4311s	enemies take less damage sure
4315s	we'll get through that it'll be fine
4332s	it was interesting you can like see it
4333s	happening
4334s	they like don't take much damage then
4336s	suddenly they take damage
4338s	all right um when designing skills do
4341s	you aim to fit skills to distinct
4343s	categories such as primary damage skills
4346s	or support skills or you tend to blend
4348s	some categories and just shoot for what
4350s	feels right
4351s	um
4352s	we definitely do try
4354s	so yes we do both of those things
4356s	sometimes
4356s	um depends on the skill really
4360s	uh we'll quite often try to fit okay
4364s	it it also depends on if we're building
4366s	a skill for a very established class
4369s	or if we're building a whole new class
4371s	out all at once
4374s	um so for like trying to fit
4377s	like
4378s	if if we're looking at this we're like
4380s	okay let's find that last blade dancer
4381s	skill um
4383s	we're definitely looking at the
4385s	like what's available how what builds
4388s	people play with what tools we can add
4390s	um
4391s	is are there skills that are like um
4394s	like every single blade dancer takes
4396s	these three skills so we want to like
4397s	add another skill to like have an option
4399s	so we like maybe the
4401s	secondary skills doesn't just look
4402s	identical
4404s	um
4405s	you know like there's there's there's
4406s	different things we'll look at based on
4408s	the situation we're in for for designing
4410s	it
4415s	um
4418s	and some sometimes we'll be like okay
4419s	this is just i think i think we
4421s	generally pick a category for the skill
4423s	first
4424s	um as the martin thinking about this and
4425s	it's usually like a pretty broad
4427s	one-liner like um oh we want that
4429s	dexterity shard
4432s	i'm gonna drop this because i don't
4434s	really want it you know
4438s	those are good we're gonna make some
4439s	stuff out of those
4444s	i don't really need that
4448s	paints me
4453s	but okay
4455s	um
4458s	i know i'm very aggressive with throwing
4460s	stuff away and i apologize i throw away
4462s	an item that you've been looking for
4465s	um
4468s	yeah i i think and yeah sometimes
4470s	sometimes uh abilities kind of come out
4472s	of nowhere
4474s	uh it's just like oh that's fun
4477s	you know
4478s	and um
4480s	like wouldn't it be cool if so that
4483s	happens sometimes
4484s	and uh
4487s	there's different starting points
4488s	depending on on you know where it comes
4490s	somebody's like taking taking a building
4491s	trying to like fit it into the into the
4493s	build and through the skill tree
4495s	um
4498s	but usually usually we do start with a
4500s	like a rough category
4502s	of some sort
4507s	fire reds okay lots of fireworks
4515s	even if they're getting shredded
4526s	but my manners
4539s	eternal flame
4547s	trying to kill them all like relatively
4549s	similar speeds
4561s	[Music]
4563s	all right what we got
4565s	[Music]
4569s	increased fire damage that's a lot of
4571s	fire i'm not doing cold
4573s	um
4578s	i'm just gonna take armor
4582s	just buff up a bit
4585s	hey baldur's wrath what a great item
4589s	what a great item
4593s	um all right yeah so yeah designing
4595s	skills yeah generally those categories i
4596s	think
4601s	uh so another question what do you guys
4603s	think about current state of health
4604s	leech i use it on the majority of builds
4606s	right now what do you think about the
4608s	other health related effects like health
4609s	regen health gain on crit do you think
4611s	it's too weak in comparison i think um
4615s	i think health leech has
4618s	the very natural advantage of
4622s	uh scaling
4624s	with damage
4625s	and with enemy health like really nicely
4630s	so it's kind of like as the game gets
4631s	harder and as you get better at your
4633s	like your character gets stronger
4634s	getting started your character gets
4635s	stronger um
4637s	healthy just like naturally keeps up
4640s	and it's it's just like oh that's nice
4642s	and and so it's it's hard to
4646s	um compare that to like a flat health
4648s	gain on crit because that doesn't it
4650s	does scale with your crit chance which
4652s	does generally go up as you get on um
4655s	but not always and
4658s	maybe you get to like 100 crit early and
4660s	then it's never going to go up again
4663s	so there's
4667s	that there's there's yeah it's it's
4669s	tough to
4671s	um
4672s	to balance it because it scales so well
4675s	just naturally
4676s	um
4678s	and so yeah i think that when you look
4679s	at
4680s	like really top-end stuff health leech
4683s	is
4684s	probably uh shines even brighter
4687s	and probably will continue to and
4688s	there's probably not a lot we can do
4690s	about that
4692s	um
4696s	probably some stuff we can do
4698s	that's a nice one
4702s	let's just go in and see what we find
4707s	temple sanctum didn't i say yes i did
4712s	now do we do the big one or we just like
4717s	oh we need to do the big one in order to
4719s	do our bow
4721s	and we do have a couple good bow
4722s	candidates here
4724s	i know they're not great
4728s	but like
4729s	still good
4732s	we have our arrow guard
4735s	and our morning process you know i'm
4736s	just i'm just gonna go for it and see if
4737s	we can do it
4739s	probably will die miserably
4742s	but that's fine
4745s	at the edges
4747s	yeah girl
4753s	any news on multiplayer no not
4755s	specifically we are still working on it
4757s	it's going well
4759s	um
4762s	i think there's
4764s	probably going to be an announcement
4767s	soonish regarding
4768s	[Music]
4770s	something with more people maybe i don't
4772s	know
4773s	i really should have asked game before i
4775s	started saying that sentence but
4777s	um
4783s	i expect expanding the program will
4785s	happen
4787s	at some point the 4.9 happens
4790s	because we need we need to uh
4792s	we need to be ready for more people than
4794s	we have right now
4800s	part of the reason we've been going kind
4801s	of slow on getting people in the
4802s	quantities of people in is because
4806s	we don't we don't want to like
4809s	wreck everything yet
4827s	you're leveling a marksman rogue so you
4829s	can try this build cool well if you want
4830s	to try this build lizard has
4833s	an a more up-to-date version of it
4836s	um as a build guide i can tell you that
4839s	the the key piece to it is rain of
4841s	winter
4844s	and then
4845s	a morning frost is also a very strong
4847s	piece in it as well
4849s	um so these are the two uniques that you
4850s	really need to have
4852s	well right over interestingly you
4853s	absolutely have to have i think but this
4855s	one's extremely useful and it should be
4857s	easy to find
4858s	um aeroguard is also just a great
4861s	um
4863s	unique uh quiver to have that should
4865s	also be fairly easy to find
4867s	um
4868s	it's also good
4879s	i'm still going to shake your head up
4887s	what do we got 50
4891s	i'm a little concerned about this
4893s	being difficult
4895s	but uh we're gonna go for it
4914s	[Music]
4922s	oh yeah what's that girl
4925s	i'm awesome i thought so
4929s	let me through
4933s	thank you
4939s	in other news
4940s	um
4942s	new magic set just got started spoiling
4944s	yesterday dominaria united
4946s	returning to the roots of magic's
4948s	history oh dominar is such a fantastic
4950s	plane
4954s	if you played magic 20 years ago
4957s	there'll be a lot of stuff you recognize
4959s	a lot of characters you recognize
4961s	that are getting cards that are not
4962s	awful
4964s	it's funny to see they're like
4966s	like early magic was um
4970s	the balance was all over the place
4973s	uh
4974s	cards were wildly overpowered and wildly
4978s	underpowered
4979s	um very frequently
4981s	and um
4984s	so some of the cards that were like
4987s	really really overpowered like like
4989s	original braids
4991s	um
4993s	now have like
4995s	they're getting toned down versions
4996s	which are looked like tons of fun
4998s	and uh
5000s	this is weird i don't know what happened
5002s	here huh
5005s	uh that's that's interesting what
5007s	happened there
5011s	um
5012s	and then
5015s	uh
5017s	cards that were unbelievably awful to
5019s	begin with like staying
5022s	um
5023s	got like buff versions where it's like
5025s	actually could be kind of useful and fun
5026s	now
5038s	so i'm pretty bummed dominate is my
5040s	favorite plane
5042s	for sure
5044s	i'm doing a proper two set cycle
5046s	i mean i wish they'd do a three set
5048s	cycle but at least two now i mean
5050s	dominar united in brothers war
5051s	so we're gonna find out how how uh
5055s	how urza and his brother mishra
5059s	got on
5061s	it's pretty sweet
5062s	a lot of health
5077s	it's checking on the hockey game
5079s	still 2-0
5083s	second period started
5093s	i'll watch it so bad
5102s	some some decent stuff in
5111s	there what bill should i play next i
5113s	think i think i'm done with bowmage
5115s	after this after today
5117s	ton of fun with it love playing it but i
5119s	think i'm going to switch something new
5120s	next time
5122s	just because i've i played quite a few
5123s	here on this one i like to switch it up
5126s	if anyone has any requests for a class
5129s	to play or recommendations for just a
5131s	build you think is fun
5133s	um
5134s	something you tried something you want
5135s	to try anything like that
5137s	let me
5139s	know i might give it a shot
5144s	something catches my fancy
5149s	i also have a little a little a little
5151s	uh
5151s	something something to share with all
5154s	i'll get that up after it after i down
5157s	julia
5158s	or she downs me
5162s	let's be real which one's more likely
5163s	right
5168s	of exalted jewelry loving it
5177s	we got
5179s	yeah okay
5183s	let's go
5185s	let's go
5187s	you want falconer
5190s	yeah me too
5192s	doesn't exist in the game though
5199s	no skills you see nothing nothing
5201s	let's play bass rogue and call it a
5203s	falconer maybe
5212s	escape is impossible
5215s	sapphire motors
5238s	escape is impossible
5255s	oh wrong way
5264s	escape is impossible
5267s	oh trying to like dash over it as it
5268s	happened
5291s	all right
5319s	did not just fall backwards while doing
5320s	that
5322s	might have to drop something
5329s	maybe a little bit
5334s	stun helmet
5338s	cool stuff
5339s	yeah
5341s	not overly useful that's okay
5343s	we're gonna make our um
5347s	should we try a bow
5354s	try bow and try and put cold damage on
5356s	the bow
5368s	just just go for the coal damage oh
5370s	did i do that wrong
5377s	job mike
5396s	what do you say should we do
5403s	i guess i would try and reroll this for
5404s	you let's see against
5406s	yeah
5412s	that's weird
5426s	that's not bad actually
5433s	i'm gonna try this one
5442s	i'm gonna do this
5447s	oh i always crash with my face over it
5449s	i'm sorry i forget to move it
5454s	[Laughter]
5456s	didn't clip the dance i believe you
5459s	and i'm not naive
5463s	yeah let's go for it
5465s	the other option is the increased coal
5467s	damage here which would probably
5469s	actually be the best thing
5472s	to get because that would hit the
5473s	icicles
5479s	so if we're going for something that's
5482s	probably better i think this is better
5484s	overall yeah
5486s	flip it let's go
5489s	we're going for that cold damage
5503s	i love how it fades in i always say it
5504s	every time but i still love it
5506s	all right
5507s	25 chance
5510s	yeah that's what i'm talking about right
5511s	there
5512s	yes
5518s	all day all day every day yes
5525s	[Music]
5530s	oh no you didn't miss a spoiler i
5532s	blanked on it that i was going to do it
5536s	all right
5537s	celebration
5538s	celebration teaser
5544s	um just just another nothing nothing too
5548s	groundbreaking today but we've got uh
5551s	uh the like the i think this is not the
5553s	starting set but the first gear you find
5555s	at the start of the game for mage set
5558s	yeah
5560s	little little little robes there
5563s	nice coloring
5564s	little t-pose action
5576s	dev mode activated no
5579s	i can't
5580s	okay i guess you guys don't know this
5581s	but like the dev mode stuff is like
5583s	really obvious on screen
5586s	and there also isn't a dev mode command
5588s	for that so
5592s	i wish there was make making gear for
5593s	these streams so much easier
5600s	that's all we got
5601s	that's all we got today
5605s	but
5607s	i mean
5608s	come on right
5610s	gotta risk it for the biscuit boys
5613s	and we got there
5614s	uh let's go let's go do something hard
5616s	now
5619s	should we start cranking corruption on
5621s	something
5622s	i kind of think so right
5637s	i swear curious that's
5640s	true
5642s	oh nice mario party through this one yes
5645s	even better
5646s	oh this is the one that i did reset
5647s	already right i remember this now
5650s	i remember this come at 105 corruption
5653s	yeah
5654s	just trying to crank that up let's go
5665s	i know you don't actually care
5669s	just just like having some fun with it
5671s	you know
5673s	oh my god so much more powerful i can
5674s	feel already
5686s	i'm really happy to get that uh
5690s	to hit that mod that was good
5697s	not happening
5709s	oh three over canada
5711s	we're doing it boys we're doing it
5723s	i'm like so gun shy though because they
5725s	just beat the states
5728s	who looks really good this year it looks
5731s	fast
5736s	so who knows what'll happen
5741s	because in the quarterfinal game we got
5743s	like
5744s	some ridiculous number of penalties in
5746s	the third period and it was just like
5747s	the nail biters just
5751s	oh
5755s	they were they were the refs were making
5757s	good calls it was not a complaint about
5758s	the refs at all for the record
5767s	that's not a bow that's a delete key
5769s	what
5779s	not happening
5786s	no i'm pretty pumped on this photo
5791s	the only thing we can do is we can make
5792s	another legendary morning frost or
5796s	we're trying to like a funny helmet like
5797s	a snowflake helmet just for fun
5799s	you know just like
5803s	like stick stick somehow stick some
5805s	exalted helmet on snowblind for fun
5808s	not ideal
5828s	our rng is tough and i've i have been
5832s	uh
5833s	kind of shockingly lucky with with my uh
5836s	legendary roles on stream
5839s	like it's happened a lot where i've been
5840s	like i really hope i get this one thing
5842s	and i just do
5844s	um
5846s	like i've i've been very lucky with
5849s	those roles on stream
5851s	um and it's it's not just this game that
5854s	that happens with like
5857s	the last two times i've gone to do a poe
5860s	league start i found a tabula rasa in
5863s	the first
5864s	like
5866s	i don't know five hours six hours
5869s	most
5870s	like like really early on both of them
5874s	the first the first one was way less
5876s	than the first one was
5878s	kinda
5879s	insultingly early
5891s	he's just like no you should play this
5893s	game come on stay i'm like well i guess
5895s	so
5912s	i don't know if it is just like
5913s	confirmation bias on me knowing that the
5915s	damage did just go up but it definitely
5916s	feels like i'm just crushing things
5918s	right now
5928s	uh
5951s	yeah like if i don't know maybe it's
5954s	just an easier zone less less negative
5956s	mods stacked up or whatever but like
5959s	i feel like that was shockingly easy
5965s	looks like more damage feels like more
5966s	damage
5976s	all right
5978s	[Music]
5985s	every time you see me do this let's be
5987s	checking the scores that that downward
5989s	angle glance
5991s	just like prop it up on the middle of my
5993s	screen
6009s	i don't have proper like that's the one
6011s	thing that sucks for not having proper
6012s	like old-school cable tv
6014s	is i have i have no way to like record
6016s	the game and watch it later
6030s	but you better believe as soon as the
6032s	stream's over
6033s	rush into that third period
6047s	just cruising through this eh
6052s	i should try and i should try and bump
6053s	corruption up fast and see if i can even
6055s	get it up at all
6061s	okay i'm gonna race through this and
6062s	find the point where i'm like closest to
6064s	getting corruption apps
6066s	and see if i can bump that up son
6071s	i can probably get a couple of those in
6072s	i think
6093s	uh no questions being asked might as
6095s	well take uh talk about favorite system
6097s	cool yeah i love getting questions and
6099s	lost memories or even trade you know
6101s	just throwing it out there
6103s	um
6107s	yeah so like
6108s	i don't i don't have anything major i
6109s	can share with any of those things none
6110s	of them are done yet
6112s	um
6114s	lost memories is interesting because it
6115s	was it was a system that we had planned
6117s	a long time ago and talked about a long
6118s	time ago and had sort of like a rough
6120s	outline of what we wanted it to be
6121s	and we made some news we made a bunch of
6124s	changes to the model system we made some
6126s	new
6127s	um
6128s	some
6129s	we created the dungeon system um
6132s	we changed how arenas work we ch we did
6135s	a lot of things and it kind of made lost
6136s	memories not really the original vision
6138s	we had for them just sort of be like
6139s	well that's not gonna work
6141s	um
6144s	and so a lot of the stuff we had
6145s	considered sort of just went out the
6147s	window but there's some of the thematic
6150s	stuff that it really hits
6151s	and we had a couple other ideas for ways
6153s	it could work that were really good that
6154s	we were like okay let's keep it on as
6156s	like a name for a feature but we'll
6158s	we're gonna remake the feature something
6159s	completely different
6162s	um
6164s	and so that that happened like well two
6166s	years ago now
6168s	i would say
6171s	um
6172s	and we've really done anything about it
6174s	since then really i haven't like added
6176s	the features or really worked on them
6177s	specified exactly what they're going to
6178s	be
6179s	um
6186s	but as far as like a favor system we've
6188s	talked about uh when we've talked about
6191s	that or how much we've discussed what
6193s	that's gonna be
6194s	but i i think one of the key things
6195s	about it is
6196s	is having a
6198s	um
6199s	a progression system that's not tied as
6202s	stringently to your character level
6205s	um but more tied to
6208s	multiple systems throughout the game so
6210s	so so it's a it's
6212s	something that you can advance
6214s	without being like okay like when you're
6216s	playing model if you're advancing your
6217s	model with progression when you're
6218s	playing
6219s	dungeons you're vince and your dungeon
6220s	progression and there's there's a little
6222s	bit of crossover with the keys and like
6224s	the gear you get from things like that
6225s	but it's there's no direct like um you
6228s	can't unlock a new dungeon tier by
6230s	completing a monolith you can't unlock
6232s	any monolith island by completing a
6234s	dungeon right there's no direct cross
6235s	progression unlocks there
6239s	um and so i think that that's that's an
6241s	important part about a a
6243s	like this nebulous favorite system we've
6245s	sort of touched on is is having um the
6249s	progression to that not be tied directly
6251s	to
6252s	any one in-game system
6254s	like any one game activity i think is
6256s	better way to put it probably
6259s	um so you are still
6262s	like
6263s	a little bit more able to
6265s	have that progression where it's not
6266s	tied to your character level or any
6268s	other end game systems as much where you
6270s	could focus on it and or ignore it and
6272s	like you might see like a level i don't
6274s	know level 70 level 100 that have the
6276s	same favorite progressions
6278s	um
6280s	that'd be pretty unlikely but i like i
6282s	bet i bet it could be done sort of thing
6284s	and that's still very much up in the air
6285s	on details for it so
6289s	that's why i'm talking in such broad
6290s	strokes for
6292s	i think that's some of the like the the
6294s	general like really overarching
6296s	mechanical goals for what it does why
6299s	it's there
6300s	greens for existing
6313s	we are going to have
6315s	um
6317s	i don't know i don't know like yeah
6318s	there's there's also there's other
6319s	things we've been working on too like so
6320s	i know a lot of the like
6322s	communication we've given out right now
6323s	it's like we're working on the really
6324s	hard we're working on multiple really
6326s	hard there are other people that um
6329s	that are not network engineers that are
6330s	still working on the game lots lots of
6332s	people that are not network engineers
6333s	that are still working on the game um
6335s	and doing all sorts of awesome stuff to
6337s	really truly polish up the game um
6339s	really make it more of a
6341s	like something we can be proud of to
6343s	present
6345s	um and it's just like little things like
6348s	um like ui updates and i say little
6350s	things they're not that little actually
6352s	um
6353s	they might seem little at first glance
6356s	um so like yeah
6357s	like like a the dialogue ui or just like
6360s	the chat window or like
6363s	you know just like things like that
6364s	where they might not seem obvious at
6366s	first just like the login flow and like
6369s	create account registration and things
6371s	like that just making that easier and
6372s	smoother and less error-prone and um
6375s	and all that sort of stuff i think is is
6377s	really important as well and all those
6378s	things are being worked on at the same
6379s	time
6381s	and and
6382s	um
6385s	i i think possibly a misconception about
6388s	um
6389s	like point nine patches that it's just
6391s	gonna be what we have now but online and
6394s	that's not the case is there's still a
6396s	lot of these other things that are
6397s	happening that are gonna be there as
6398s	well
6403s	there's not quite as headline he is
6405s	multiplayer
6408s	they said those backwards was a
6409s	multiplayer went across the screen
6411s	better
6416s	hey there love the game thank you very
6417s	much uh do you guys have plans to
6420s	optimize the game further for gamepad
6422s	yes you have a timeline for that this
6423s	game could be so amazing on steam deck
6427s	so first of all steam deck is an
6429s	unsupported platform for us
6431s	um it is not something we plan to
6434s	list as a supported platform
6437s	anytime soon
6438s	um
6439s	i know some people have got it working
6441s	very well on steam deck already just by
6443s	the the nature of us having a linux
6445s	version and
6447s	mostly controller support um
6451s	so like it kind of incidentally gets
6454s	steam deck support but uh it is clearly
6457s	listed as not compatible on the steam
6459s	page
6461s	um
6462s	and and there's no there's no immediate
6464s	plans to change that either
6466s	i hope one day we do
6469s	um and i don't think it'll be much of a
6471s	stretch to do but i think it'll be more
6472s	of a
6473s	like
6475s	if if we look at it one day and go huh
6477s	this just works doesn't it i guess we'll
6479s	make a compatible steam deck um if that
6482s	would be the situation where it happens
6483s	if it happened pre-launch probably
6486s	um
6490s	and
6492s	as far as controller support in general
6493s	goes yeah proper controller support is a
6496s	launch feature for us um
6499s	that is something we want to have solid
6501s	and tight that's just like where we can
6502s	whether that that that uh there's that
6504s	feel on steam or you can say like
6506s	controller support it's like non-partial
6509s	mostly or full or something like that
6511s	there's like different words for it and
6512s	so just like full control of sport is is
6514s	a tag we'd like to have
6516s	um
6518s	as soon as possible really and and there
6520s	are things that are being done to make
6522s	changes that like um
6524s	today i approved a full request with uh
6526s	some controller fix
6528s	um
6529s	so like there are changes to controllers
6532s	that are being actively worked on
6538s	and we do design ui with controllers in
6540s	mind
6543s	and i just realized as i'm talking that
6544s	the new login flow ui does not it's not
6547s	controller optimized right now so i need
6549s	to go back and do that
6558s	but to be fair that's just like
6560s	putting one button tag in place it's
6562s	fine
6575s	is the studio 100 back at work uh now or
6578s	is it still summertime we don't really
6580s	have a set like
6583s	everyone take the summer off or anything
6584s	like that um partially because we're so
6587s	international but like
6589s	for some people the summer is winter
6591s	like or not not winter but like the
6593s	summer's cold
6595s	um and so some people like to take their
6598s	vacation in the winter because it's warm
6600s	for them then
6601s	um
6606s	but but yeah it's
6608s	there's
6610s	there were there were a few people that
6611s	took vacations in the summer
6613s	like what happens in uh
6615s	um
6616s	like north american europe frequently
6622s	where the majority of people on the team
6623s	are from
6625s	probably i think
6627s	yeah
6630s	it's a lot all over the place i don't
6631s	actually know where the majority are
6632s	from at this point
6671s	scoot over here a little bit
6683s	yes
6684s	oh wow never seen that ring before
6691s	um
6694s	but yeah we're still going strong
6699s	on our developments development cycles
6701s	and everything
6704s	i know there's a couple people that like
6707s	it gets so unbelievably hot for them
6711s	um
6712s	when when the summer rolls around that
6714s	like they just can't even
6717s	and it's like i'm gonna lay on the floor
6718s	with a bucket of ice on my face for
6722s	the day
6724s	and survive
6728s	especially places that historically
6729s	don't have air conditioning that are
6731s	getting the
6732s	need for it now
6734s	there's lots of places where you're like
6735s	oh it's
6736s	it's 30 degrees every day or whatever
6739s	that is
6740s	like 105 or something i don't know the
6742s	conversion properly but it's like 30
6744s	degrees celsius every single day and
6746s	um
6747s	like
6749s	when you were a kid you're like
6752s	it was unheard of to hit 30 degrees
6755s	like
6756s	most buildings you go most shops are not
6758s	air-conditioned and like
6760s	stuff gets shut down in
6762s	heat waves and there's people that are
6764s	from like places where it gets actually
6766s	hot then i just laugh at you and they're
6768s	just like
6769s	yeah it's not hot
6774s	i just i live in a rainforest and
6776s	we're not used to extreme temperatures
6778s	one way or the other
6780s	we're like below zero unheard of
6783s	above 30 unheard of
6805s	you you wish your summer's only hit 30
6807s	degrees
6808s	i uh do not envy you if if 30 would be
6811s	nice and cool in your world
6814s	that's way too hot
6816s	it's about 32 in my office right now
6818s	because my server's running
6820s	um what was running this morning
6825s	i turn it off for the streams i just
6826s	can't handle it
6835s	yeah
6836s	it's too much i feel like i feel like
6838s	i'm drenched in sweat right now
6848s	[Laughter]
6855s	yeah kilvara uh
6857s	i i have no idea where that is at all
6875s	not happening
6880s	remember 96
6885s	i don't know if you're old enough to
6885s	remember that but uh
6887s	or if you don't every time it snows
6889s	everyone says i was zero there's a
6891s	blizzard of 96.
6899s	not
6904s	it happening like the one time we
6905s	actually had real snow ever
6913s	yeah
6916s	yeah you know
6922s	oh this build is great i love so okay
6925s	i'm just sort of playing it and hanging
6926s	out
6927s	and the mobility's fantastic i'm
6930s	struggling a little bit on sustained
6931s	damage for mana on boss fights
6934s	um which i know i know lizard has a fix
6936s	for and he's like you're using the old
6937s	version of the build mike what are you
6938s	doing um
6942s	but it feels great
6944s	really i'm really enjoying this build
6945s	and i will i'll be sad to see it go
6947s	but i'm gonna switch to something new
6948s	next week
6950s	probably go back to that video
6953s	that perry put out about
6955s	um
6960s	[Music]
6963s	um about about just fun builds and and
6966s	something new from that solar builds
6967s	i'll be doing lately even from that
6970s	love the game can't wait full release
6971s	thank you me neither
6974s	are we exactly at 9 20
6976s	are we gonna finish the boss fight we're
6978s	gonna finish
7000s	i seen this
7028s	where are you
7042s	not happening
7070s	oh
7080s	why are you
7091s	i think we're gonna be okay
7097s	taking classes in jinxing
7101s	jinxing 101 it's a blow off class loot
7104s	for the semester
7126s	double keys
7133s	um
7135s	i think we're gonna go helmet
7143s	there's a cool scepter
7145s	do you still deal damage
7154s	interesting
7155s	interesting
7160s	i'm getting hit by everything here yeah
7162s	well you know what and
7163s	that was the problem with seeing what i
7164s	could get away with you know
7171s	i think we're gonna be okay here also
7172s	serves as a timing cue for audio clips
7176s	yeah i like to like to make some sort of
7177s	like
7178s	i'm gonna be fine affirmation right
7180s	before i think i'm gonna die
7183s	no that was good i i had fun today um
7187s	yeah
7188s	uh that that'll about do it for us today
7191s	i hope you had fun i know i did we'll be
7194s	here same time same place next week
7197s	having some fun killing some monsters
7200s	um
7202s	oh no i'm gonna sneeze right at the end
7211s	maybe i won't sneeze at all because i'm
7212s	in control
7214s	second community reference of the stream
7216s	anyways uh
7218s	that'll about do it for me today
7220s	um
7222s	we'll be back next week
7225s	uh that's whoa
7229s	that was my desktop
7230s	[Laughter]
7232s	um all right where am i going here
7239s	ha ha
7240s	that's the thing i show at the end isn't
7242s	it oh yeah um
7244s	yeah we'll have the same same chair i'll
7245s	have a new build next week
7247s	uh and we will be
7249s	i'll be playing around just more stuff i
7252s	am
7253s	uh trying to find some more interesting
7255s	stuff to do on streams i had a really
7257s	great time at the
7259s	uh the the lore q a stream and a couple
7262s	of the art ones so i'm i'm trying to
7264s	line up some more special guests uh
7267s	because i think those are really
7268s	interesting for people so i i want to do
7269s	more of that stuff
7271s	um yeah i hope we'll see you next time
7276s	is there anyone else streaming us right
7278s	now that i can go right to
7280s	there is oh there is

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