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| 2s | [Music] |
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| 5s | good afternoon welcome back to the last |
| 7s | epoch devstream |
| 10s | i am your host mike |
| 12s | and let's hop right in |
| 15s | also welcome to the lone star mcfarland |
| 17s | raiding party thank you for joining and |
| 19s | thank you |
| 20s | mr mcfluffin for your uh |
| 22s | one year of being subbed to our channel |
| 24s | which is super cool |
| 27s | i don't know i see years and it's just |
| 28s | like uh it's neat |
| 30s | i like it we are we're gonna start |
| 32s | strong we're right right on the edge of |
| 33s | the uh |
| 36s | quest for this monolith |
| 39s | i hammer this out |
| 49s | start strong |
| 53s | i i um |
| 55s | i will say right now i know i was |
| 56s | empty-handed last week and i apologize i |
| 58s | do have something this week |
| 60s | i'm not a ton of stuff just a couple |
| 62s | little things but |
| 63s | hopefully we can get some good |
| 64s | discussion and questions going that i |
| 66s | have lots of awesome stuff |
| 70s | as always if you have any questions |
| 71s | please feel free to direct them to me |
| 73s | directly with an at last epoch game in |
| 75s | the question and i'll be happy to answer |
| 76s | them as best i can |
| 80s | and as always all of our donations and |
| 82s | money generated from the stream anyway |
| 83s | go directly to charity we're still |
| 86s | we're still cruising on some uh really |
| 88s | fun for some ukraine children |
| 95s | which we are matching |
| 98s | which is pretty cool |
| 112s | try and line them all up here |
| 123s | there we go i really want to try and |
| 125s | upgrade my armor this session |
| 131s | i think that'll be a good thing to do |
| 134s | excuse me i was trying to |
| 136s | frantically eat lunch before the stream |
| 145s | i didn't quite finish it there's like a |
| 146s | little bowl of it sitting right beside |
| 147s | me i'm just like |
| 149s | oh that looks good |
| 156s | all the way off i'm just gonna open the |
| 158s | window a little bit here |
| 162s | it's summer |
| 165s | oh is it every summer |
| 171s | is it |
| 172s | a dungeon key by any chance is it a |
| 175s | dungeon key no |
| 176s | i i have lots of dungeon keys |
| 179s | oh |
| 181s | look at all those |
| 182s | i really want to be uh |
| 186s | working on a bow as well |
| 193s | we could we could go try and do a |
| 194s | dungeon |
| 199s | yeah let's just |
| 201s | just go for it another question here big |
| 202s | big one quiet for me welcome |
| 204s | i saw you there at the first i was still |
| 206s | uh chewing when he sent the first good |
| 208s | day but good day to you sir |
| 212s | i am doing well i hope you are too |
| 214s | starting off with a hard question |
| 218s | but we will see but will we see more |
| 220s | options in secondary defensive stats or |
| 223s | more stats in general that comes without |
| 225s | caps because health points and damage |
| 228s | being the only real investment stats is |
| 230s | pretty boring i'd rather have more |
| 232s | options not enough space to have space |
| 236s | for everything but nothing interesting |
| 238s | to invest into deeper |
| 241s | i'd rather more options |
| 243s | not enough space than to have space for |
| 246s | everything but not |
| 247s | uh but nothing interesting to invest in |
| 249s | deeper okay seriously |
| 251s | um element effect reduction or ailment |
| 254s | dodge chance |
| 255s | something else for players to choose |
| 257s | from |
| 257s | i i think there's space for something |
| 259s | like that |
| 262s | um |
| 264s | i think the chances of |
| 267s | having too many new stats |
| 270s | so what am i stealing there |
| 274s | i think the chance of having too many |
| 275s | new stats on top of what we have now |
| 280s | um is is relatively low |
| 285s | um |
| 287s | before launch |
| 290s | and that mostly just comes from uh |
| 293s | like we've got a lot of stats we we're |
| 296s | trying to close out the game to launch |
| 297s | right now that's sort of the goal |
| 299s | and |
| 301s | oh wow yeah that breath hurts doesn't it |
| 306s | um |
| 310s | and um |
| 313s | new defensive layers at this stage could |
| 315s | be |
| 316s | very uh |
| 318s | design intensive |
| 320s | um |
| 321s | but i do think that's a really good |
| 322s | thing to |
| 324s | to like keep an eye on for post |
| 326s | post launch content yeah getting more |
| 328s | stats in there that's the sort of thing |
| 329s | we do want to do |
| 331s | it's just having um |
| 336s | having a ton of those things right now |
| 337s | it's it's it's kind of not a great time |
| 339s | to do that for us |
| 358s | oh |
| 361s | i was outside of it and then the pathing |
| 364s | pathed me back inside of it |
| 366s | [Laughter] |
| 370s | so i was trying to go around the outside |
| 371s | that sucks |
| 377s | i think i can do this |
| 380s | let's just go for it |
| 383s | um yeah like like we we've got |
| 388s | i i definitely think there's room in the |
| 390s | design system for more defensive layers |
| 392s | totally goofy there |
| 395s | i think it would have a very positive |
| 396s | impact |
| 399s | um |
| 400s | i don't think there's room for it in our |
| 403s | pipeline |
| 404s | before launch |
| 405s | there's the short answer |
| 411s | and we've got |
| 413s | several uh two yeah random name x and |
| 415s | tahario for 10 and 12 months |
| 417s | respectively since another year |
| 421s | it's another year thank you very much |
| 423s | appreciate that |
| 446s | kind of like get them over here a little |
| 447s | bit so it's easier to dodge down below |
| 449s | we're gonna go up |
| 460s | oh come on |
| 464s | easy too easy |
| 487s | easy too easy |
| 505s | thank you very much tny |
| 507s | nine months in a row |
| 510s | lots of big numbers showing up this week |
| 512s | here |
| 514s | thank you very much everybody i |
| 516s | appreciate that |
| 519s | boss train |
| 523s | yeah i did it didn't die |
| 526s | oh gosh |
| 539s | no next |
| 549s | that's not happening get out here oh god |
| 551s | okay |
| 561s | oh no |
| 567s | thank you very much whoever that was |
| 569s | i heard it |
| 571s | i heard it here first |
| 575s | oh it's the card 2 32's two months in a |
| 578s | row oh my gosh you guys are trying to |
| 580s | get me killed aren't you |
| 585s | challenge accepted |
| 587s | [Laughter] |
| 606s | this arena is getting spicy |
| 618s | come on |
| 620s | uh master sword 1291 for a year as well |
| 623s | lots of years today this is great |
| 626s | i love it |
| 631s | oh come on come on come on come on |
| 642s | thank you very much |
| 644s | uh |
| 646s | 2 zakari232 really enjoyed last night |
| 648s | after these mats and patches for two |
| 649s | months in a row sub thank you very much |
| 651s | and mastersword told anyone for a full |
| 652s | year |
| 653s | and |
| 654s | vatinas three months in a row |
| 656s | thank you very much |
| 658s | glad to have y'all with us welcome back |
| 661s | what should we take necrotic resistance |
| 663s | physical damage ooh i mean |
| 667s | we do a lot of physical damage |
| 669s | we don't do a lot of poison |
| 674s | i think just i think just more physical |
| 676s | damages is what we want here |
| 678s | two general sanctum keys ah |
| 680s | i'm trying no no no |
| 684s | it's not bad at all |
| 686s | i've already got my |
| 689s | belt and my |
| 694s | arrow holder quiver there we go |
| 698s | i speak words really well |
| 702s | imagine having to click a stash crafting |
| 704s | mats |
| 710s | okay |
| 711s | any further insight on how stash tabs |
| 713s | might work between leagues by once |
| 715s | impermanent or by per cycle yeah that's |
| 717s | a great question |
| 718s | and i'm not sure exactly we haven't i |
| 720s | don't think we've had it nailed down |
| 721s | exactly how it's going to work |
| 724s | i suspect |
| 726s | ah i don't want to say so the reason why |
| 729s | okay here's here's the |
| 731s | i hate doing things like this i'm not |
| 732s | sure how they're gonna be |
| 733s | but |
| 734s | i think there's a good chance it'll |
| 736s | actually not carry over from from league |
| 738s | to league or cycle to cycle partially |
| 740s | because it is generated from an in-game |
| 742s | resource exclusively |
| 748s | and |
| 751s | when those cycle characters |
| 753s | um merge into the like standard league |
| 756s | or whatever |
| 758s | um |
| 762s | the the sheer volume of if they use the |
| 766s | same |
| 767s | stash tabs but they're like empty each |
| 769s | time |
| 770s | if they were to to carry those over the |
| 772s | sheer volume of things that could be |
| 774s | merging into one is so overwhelming |
| 778s | that it could feel pretty bad to have to |
| 780s | like |
| 782s | throw away half your stuff every time a |
| 784s | cycle ends |
| 786s | and i think if they were |
| 788s | not shared you'd you'd end up |
| 792s | not having to do that as much now the |
| 794s | other the flip side of that is people |
| 795s | who only play cycle characters |
| 797s | and and just they delete them at the end |
| 798s | of the cycle |
| 800s | it's a little frustrating to start from |
| 801s | scratch each time but they are pretty |
| 802s | cheap to begin with and |
| 805s | you know it's it's hard to it's hard to |
| 807s | say there's a lot of things both ways |
| 808s | here oh we've reached level two hype |
| 811s | train emote |
| 814s | one of those for you |
| 816s | um so i don't know i don't know it's |
| 818s | it's |
| 819s | still up in the air whether they have to |
| 820s | be repurchased or not um maybe there's |
| 823s | some way to like |
| 825s | upgrade your account to start with more |
| 826s | in the start of each cycle or something |
| 827s | like that there's there's things we've |
| 829s | talked about we haven't come to an exact |
| 830s | decision on it though good question |
| 832s | though i like it it's is that does |
| 833s | anyone have a |
| 835s | specific one they'd like me to do so |
| 837s | really want spirits to fire someone |
| 838s | really wants the last round or the age |
| 839s | of winter |
| 841s | speak now and i will pick one that i see |
| 843s | early on i'm gonna answer this question |
| 844s | at the same time any chance this month |
| 846s | we'll getting a multiplayer |
| 848s | we we will get multiplayer no not this |
| 850s | month |
| 851s | um |
| 852s | and if not this month what time frame |
| 853s | would you say we can play with our |
| 855s | friends i do not have a set time frame |
| 856s | it will not be this month |
| 858s | it's in the next eight days |
| 862s | [Music] |
| 864s | any news on remaining masteries they |
| 866s | have not been started in any way other |
| 868s | than a rough concept outline and their |
| 871s | names |
| 878s | fire fire fire actually wanted them for |
| 880s | winter |
| 882s | when you fire |
| 888s | just because i saw more of those |
| 889s | immediately |
| 890s | that's that's it |
| 893s | oh quiet for me got another one all |
| 894s | right time for the second hard question |
| 896s | of the day sorry you need to apologize i |
| 898s | love hard questions |
| 901s | i wish i could answer them better |
| 902s | sometimes but i love hard questions they |
| 905s | don't need to apologize how do you feel |
| 906s | about the mobility gap between classes |
| 908s | and skills yeah there's |
| 911s | uh that's a difficult problem that i |
| 914s | wish i had a great answer for you just |
| 915s | right off the bat um especially with |
| 918s | unique and legendary items in play will |
| 919s | pan out because currently given off the |
| 922s | current numbers there will be people |
| 924s | playing slower builds not engaging with |
| 926s | content while the friends run ahead and |
| 928s | clear the map part of the reason why d3 |
| 929s | and pue can feel bad in group play |
| 933s | yeah this is this is a real tough |
| 934s | problem this is a problem as you pointed |
| 936s | out right there in the question that |
| 937s | other games other large games in the |
| 940s | genre have struggled with this exact |
| 941s | same problem and and it's really |
| 943s | difficult to come up with a good answer |
| 945s | we've already started to take some steps |
| 947s | to improve this actually because in our |
| 949s | really early play testing |
| 951s | we see certain build certain classes |
| 954s | even just in early leveling just whoosh |
| 956s | way ahead of everyone else |
| 958s | um and this along with some not overly |
| 963s | awesome nodes in lunge |
| 965s | is what led to the lunge rework and it's |
| 967s | actually a lot better now in multiplayer |
| 969s | than it used to be which is great |
| 971s | it's not perfect yet |
| 973s | um |
| 975s | i i think there will be a little bit of |
| 977s | an expectation and like people love to |
| 980s | go fast |
| 981s | bottom line people love to go fast um |
| 984s | there's this there's this tug of war |
| 986s | between |
| 988s | um |
| 991s | i i guess like class fantasy and class |
| 994s | balance class identity class fantasy |
| 996s | class uniqueness and class balance |
| 999s | so having that |
| 1000s | um |
| 1002s | everyone |
| 1004s | moves the same |
| 1005s | it takes away from that class identity |
| 1007s | that class fantasy that class balance um |
| 1010s | and we try and put that in how they move |
| 1012s | how they use the move skills so |
| 1014s | shift |
| 1015s | is basically |
| 1017s | teleport transplant they're basically |
| 1019s | the same thing you press the button you |
| 1020s | go the distance it's pretty similar |
| 1022s | um |
| 1023s | a lot of what changes between the three |
| 1025s | is i mean teleport and transplant are |
| 1026s | much more similar because you can um |
| 1029s | you don't actually travel the distance |
| 1031s | you you just teleport and |
| 1033s | um |
| 1036s | uh shift is a fixed distance where the |
| 1038s | other ones aren't but |
| 1039s | anyways it's it's very very similar |
| 1041s | except shift is a shorter distance and |
| 1043s | it has a lower cost and a lower cooldown |
| 1046s | so you use it more frequently and and so |
| 1049s | you can give them a base a really |
| 1050s | similar |
| 1052s | um |
| 1054s | a really similar |
| 1056s | initial |
| 1057s | mobility potential |
| 1062s | the cap on a lot of these is really hard |
| 1065s | to |
| 1066s | define |
| 1068s | um |
| 1069s | by the skill alone because the cap on a |
| 1071s | lot of these moving skills is is |
| 1073s | actually defined by the sum total of all |
| 1075s | of the things that can influence that |
| 1077s | movement skill in the game and that |
| 1078s | comes down to things like cool down |
| 1080s | reduction um just flat mana available |
| 1083s | mana regen |
| 1084s | um |
| 1086s | there's a lot of things that it impacts |
| 1088s | right |
| 1089s | and and |
| 1090s | those things in particular mana regen |
| 1092s | and cooldown reduction are stats that we |
| 1094s | uh hold quite close to our chest and |
| 1097s | don't do a lot with or we try not to |
| 1100s | um |
| 1104s | and i i think that a lot of the problem |
| 1106s | with |
| 1108s | movement skills in a lot of games that |
| 1109s | we've seen online already like diablo 3 |
| 1111s | and path of exiles um disparity movement |
| 1113s | skills between classes comes a lot from |
| 1116s | just playing with random people |
| 1119s | um |
| 1121s | like |
| 1122s | i mean the game i always use as an |
| 1123s | example diablo 2 has the biggest |
| 1125s | disparity movement skills from class to |
| 1127s | class of any game i've ever seen |
| 1129s | um |
| 1130s | and they in a way kind of fix it by |
| 1132s | giving everyone teleport with with |
| 1134s | enigma it's sort of a weird way to fix |
| 1136s | the problem because i don't |
| 1139s | kind of hate the teleports there at the |
| 1140s | same time but anyways um |
| 1146s | by giving everyone access to teleport |
| 1148s | you kind of you kind of fix that by |
| 1149s | making everyone equal but at base |
| 1154s | sorceress is |
| 1156s | unbelievably far ahead of everyone else |
| 1160s | like |
| 1161s | so |
| 1163s | you can keep up a little bit with a |
| 1164s | bunch of them there's um |
| 1167s | charge can go pretty quick |
| 1169s | um |
| 1172s | there's elements of it that work with |
| 1173s | other things too nice |
| 1175s | um |
| 1176s | but yeah it's it's just so overwhelming |
| 1179s | how much better teleport is than |
| 1181s | everything else |
| 1182s | and |
| 1183s | so this problem's been around forever |
| 1185s | right |
| 1186s | i think a lot of fixing it is |
| 1189s | like playing with people you know and |
| 1191s | being able to |
| 1192s | talk and play together and not just run |
| 1195s | off on each other |
| 1196s | and and i i know that's not really a |
| 1198s | solution and it's definitely something |
| 1200s | we're trying to make easier to to do |
| 1203s | to |
| 1204s | like play with friends and not have that |
| 1206s | disparity be so huge at least have the |
| 1208s | potential to not have that disparity to |
| 1210s | be so huge but in in random play |
| 1214s | like if you just if you're just joining |
| 1215s | a group with someone you don't know it's |
| 1217s | almost impossible to get that moving |
| 1218s | potential to be |
| 1220s | similar with each other just by sure |
| 1222s | happenstance unless both of you are |
| 1224s | hitting the theoretical limit |
| 1226s | and that theoretical limit for all |
| 1227s | classes is relatively similar |
| 1230s | and we do try our best to make that the |
| 1232s | case |
| 1233s | um |
| 1237s | but it can force people into the like |
| 1240s | okay well i have to go as fast as |
| 1242s | possible |
| 1243s | um |
| 1244s | so there's another way we can then look |
| 1246s | at how to how how to i guess |
| 1250s | um |
| 1251s | normalize movement speed across |
| 1252s | different classes |
| 1254s | and and that's |
| 1256s | um environmental |
| 1257s | punishments for going too fast which i |
| 1260s | know sounds really weird but it's like |
| 1263s | the first enemy like say you had an |
| 1265s | enemy that had |
| 1267s | um |
| 1268s | an ability i don't really know even what |
| 1269s | i'm doing in this |
| 1271s | uh |
| 1272s | monolith echo here i'm just sort of |
| 1273s | going and talking um if you say you had |
| 1275s | say you had an enemy |
| 1277s | where the first |
| 1278s | um |
| 1279s | thing it encountered |
| 1283s | it uh it had an attack that like always |
| 1285s | hit |
| 1286s | and it like |
| 1287s | nuked that person's mana just the first |
| 1290s | person that meets it just nukes their |
| 1292s | mana or it nukes their cooldown |
| 1293s | reduction or it nukes their movement |
| 1294s | speed or something like that like it's |
| 1296s | just |
| 1297s | um |
| 1298s | it does something to like heavily slow |
| 1300s | down the first person it sees and it |
| 1302s | gives a chance for someone else to catch |
| 1303s | up right |
| 1305s | there's a reason we don't do that it |
| 1307s | feels awful |
| 1309s | and it feels even worse if the two of |
| 1311s | you are really close together |
| 1314s | and um |
| 1315s | it just nukes one of your movement |
| 1317s | speeds and then one one falls behind |
| 1319s | because of it now there's workarounds |
| 1320s | for that as well where you can say like |
| 1321s | okay it's it's it nukes the movement |
| 1323s | speed of isolated people that it reaches |
| 1326s | first so it's like okay if you're really |
| 1328s | far ahead of someone then it'll it'll |
| 1331s | oh |
| 1334s | that's a nice helmet |
| 1336s | uh it'll it'll like just wreck whoever's |
| 1339s | first if they're isolated |
| 1342s | but then you get into problems of like |
| 1343s | okay well then there's |
| 1344s | um |
| 1345s | in a four-person group maybe three |
| 1347s | people are up high up close to this |
| 1349s | person really far ahead and one person's |
| 1350s | lagging behind |
| 1352s | um |
| 1353s | so there's sort of every single one of |
| 1355s | these things that has options to fix |
| 1356s | these there's problems with them and i'm |
| 1358s | not i i know i'm just bringing up a lot |
| 1359s | of problems i don't have a good answer |
| 1361s | to this right now |
| 1362s | um but i guess i'm just trying to |
| 1364s | illustrate that we're |
| 1365s | we are thinking about this and we are |
| 1367s | working on it |
| 1368s | um |
| 1372s | partially illustrated in the changes to |
| 1373s | lunge a few patches back |
| 1376s | and teleport is high on my list of |
| 1378s | um |
| 1380s | rework skills |
| 1384s | i think it needs some love there's a few |
| 1386s | nodes in teleport that are not doing |
| 1388s | what they're designed to do |
| 1390s | um and they're being used quite cleverly |
| 1392s | by the community in different ways um |
| 1394s | and and doing it's doing exactly what it |
| 1397s | says it does and everything but it's |
| 1398s | it's not the intention or like the |
| 1400s | server key that's three keys already 23 |
| 1402s | minutes in |
| 1404s | ones from a boss that i'd perhaps that |
| 1405s | doesn't really count i guess |
| 1408s | um |
| 1413s | i do really want to get into a dungeon |
| 1415s | today and finish one off |
| 1419s | a bunch of cash i think don't they |
| 1421s | yeah i got like five mil |
| 1426s | totally obtained perfectly legitimately |
| 1429s | 100 |
| 1433s | i'm a paragon of |
| 1435s | trust and honesty |
| 1438s | [Music] |
| 1446s | i hope that sheds some light on what |
| 1447s | we're |
| 1448s | working through for it at least |
| 1452s | that's an interesting ring |
| 1459s | let's get that xp going |
| 1462s | level 90 zones we're pretty under |
| 1463s | leveled for it but we are cruising |
| 1465s | through it pretty nicely which is good |
| 1467s | i just need um |
| 1472s | i just need to level up faster |
| 1476s | get some better gear on |
| 1479s | kind of tempted to go back into a lower |
| 1481s | level monolith that i can just |
| 1483s | just cruise through |
| 1485s | and just hit all the xp nodes |
| 1489s | and get another blessing |
| 1494s | the jaw spurs are uh |
| 1497s | no joke here apparently |
| 1513s | i should i should really um |
| 1517s | put in a bit of a filter to highlight |
| 1519s | gear that i really want |
| 1524s | yeah i don't care about crit |
| 1526s | will there be streams of skill design |
| 1529s | for new masteries no i'm sorry |
| 1534s | uh skill design goes through so many |
| 1536s | different stages that um |
| 1538s | [Music] |
| 1539s | by the time we're like confident in |
| 1541s | that's what's gonna stay as |
| 1543s | it's so far into this into it that it's |
| 1545s | basically done |
| 1548s | um |
| 1552s | i mean it's possible we might do |
| 1553s | something little but |
| 1555s | i doubt it |
| 1563s | you'll start to see teasers |
| 1565s | they'll probably start to see teasers |
| 1573s | once it's once it's being worked on but |
| 1575s | no it's it hasn't been touched |
| 1577s | still exactly where it was |
| 1590s | they're tricky because we like |
| 1593s | multiplayer's taking up a lot of work |
| 1594s | right now |
| 1598s | and the the goal is really to hit to hit |
| 1600s | 1.0 |
| 1602s | on like |
| 1603s | in a really good state with the grip on |
| 1604s | like hit the ground running with 1.0 and |
| 1606s | you know |
| 1610s | that's our main goal |
| 1626s | all right |
| 1628s | why not gain a bonus like you did with |
| 1630s | the pets on mobility if you're too far |
| 1632s | from the group ahead yeah like |
| 1634s | that |
| 1636s | that's a great idea |
| 1638s | um |
| 1639s | define the group ahead |
| 1643s | in a way that a computer can can detect |
| 1645s | that easily |
| 1647s | right |
| 1648s | like first off define a head |
| 1652s | and then how to find the group |
| 1655s | like |
| 1663s | it's that's really difficult to do with |
| 1666s | with all sorts of stuff but like for all |
| 1668s | sorts of reasons |
| 1673s | i'd say almost impossible to do well |
| 1675s | without having like |
| 1676s | weird random like |
| 1678s | having things be really |
| 1681s | um |
| 1684s | so with with the pets a head is really |
| 1685s | obvious because the head is just towards |
| 1688s | the creator you know like that's that's |
| 1690s | not a head it's distance from |
| 1692s | um |
| 1694s | and you can't do like |
| 1697s | having having very quickly changing |
| 1700s | uh move speed |
| 1702s | is frustrating so having like if you're |
| 1704s | just walking you're just like slow fast |
| 1706s | slow fast slow fast |
| 1708s | sucks |
| 1711s | and |
| 1714s | having um |
| 1716s | speed ups happen |
| 1718s | where you can be like walking along one |
| 1721s | direction |
| 1723s | and maybe like a head is defined as like |
| 1725s | perpendicular to the direction you're |
| 1726s | walking and so as you're walking towards |
| 1729s | this point where you get closer and |
| 1730s | closer and closer |
| 1732s | and then you you're at the closest point |
| 1734s | you're getting further further away so |
| 1735s | something you're walking away so |
| 1736s | suddenly you slow down for seemingly no |
| 1738s | reason |
| 1739s | you know you're walking the same |
| 1740s | direction there's there's a lot of |
| 1742s | like that's the simplest example but |
| 1744s | there's a lot of weird things like that |
| 1749s | and there's lots of things you can do so |
| 1750s | you can like give it a um |
| 1754s | like a minimum time you need to be like |
| 1756s | outside of the range for it to slow down |
| 1757s | or something like that so if you like |
| 1758s | dip in and out of it it's better |
| 1766s | i think we'd like to try as many of the |
| 1769s | uh like almost like standard speed |
| 1772s | balancing things as we can first like |
| 1774s | just making the maximum potential move |
| 1776s | speed on that you can get out of |
| 1778s | spamming teleport spamming transplant |
| 1781s | spamming shifts split spamming lunge |
| 1784s | you know like what's the max spinning |
| 1786s | fury leaf what's the maximum speed you |
| 1788s | can get out of all these things if you |
| 1789s | really spec into it hard |
| 1791s | being just similar to each other as |
| 1793s | similar as we can and and and getting |
| 1794s | that as close as we can to to decent |
| 1796s | first is is the first thing we want to |
| 1798s | do and and getting feedback from larger |
| 1801s | audiences another key i am really lucky |
| 1803s | at keys |
| 1805s | um and getting feedback from a larger |
| 1807s | audience on how that feels before doing |
| 1810s | i am putting new systems like this like |
| 1812s | some sort of catch-up mechanic for for |
| 1814s | speed scaling i think is is |
| 1816s | a better overall plan |
| 1820s | see there's lots of games that that sort |
| 1822s | of thing works great in like mario kart |
| 1825s | great catch-up mechanic in america |
| 1826s | there's two of them one you just go |
| 1828s | faster when you're further behind |
| 1829s | um |
| 1832s | and two you get better gear when you're |
| 1833s | further behind let's catch up |
| 1836s | but that one there's a really |
| 1838s | unbelievably clear and easy way to say |
| 1841s | who is behind and how far behind are |
| 1843s | they like that's really obvious |
| 1846s | that that metric is almost impossible |
| 1847s | for us to define |
| 1855s | because like say there's a |
| 1860s | uh there can be multiple objective |
| 1861s | points and you can be splitting up to go |
| 1863s | to specific ones and then it's like okay |
| 1865s | we're gonna send this one person off to |
| 1867s | another objective |
| 1868s | and it's actually faster for us all to |
| 1870s | just stand here |
| 1872s | at the at the like the branching point |
| 1875s | while you go and do that objective |
| 1877s | because if we all stand here you would |
| 1878s | do that objective on your way back to us |
| 1880s | because we're in a big group you'll get |
| 1881s | to go faster |
| 1883s | and that's really unfun when it's like |
| 1885s | the best thing i can do for the party to |
| 1886s | go faster is literally nothing stand |
| 1889s | here and wait that's boring |
| 1892s | and and opening up the strategies like |
| 1894s | that is |
| 1895s | is really difficult to |
| 1897s | avoid and if you do have strategies like |
| 1900s | that they are not well received when you |
| 1902s | take them away |
| 1918s | most of everything i've talked about |
| 1919s | today with regards to this is something |
| 1921s | is stuff that we've gone over in |
| 1922s | meetings this is not the top of my head |
| 1923s | for the most part |
| 1925s | um so as you can see this is something |
| 1926s | we are talking about this is an active |
| 1928s | discussion this is not just uh oh my god |
| 1931s | another key |
| 1938s | uh |
| 1939s | so we have four keys and we're 32 |
| 1941s | minutes in |
| 1949s | that's a little weird |
| 1951s | that's it's definitely uh |
| 1953s | extremely good luck |
| 1955s | it's fun if you're not getting keys at |
| 1957s | that rate do not be surprised |
| 1961s | just turn streamer mode on and |
| 1962s | everything will be better |
| 1966s | i'm for the record kidding doesn't |
| 1967s | actually do anything like that |
| 1971s | let's get some more questions teleport |
| 1973s | is channeled node when let's go |
| 1976s | [Music] |
| 1979s | uh will mine will mirror images get more |
| 1982s | support for scaling meaning build around |
| 1984s | them in the future possibly um |
| 1987s | one of the things mirror images are a uh |
| 1990s | hotly debated |
| 1991s | mechanic in mage in general |
| 1995s | i love them |
| 1996s | i think mirror images is like a key |
| 1999s | thematic uh style for mages i think it's |
| 2002s | really important |
| 2003s | it's a nice |
| 2004s | fire damaging night um |
| 2007s | i think it's a really key thing for |
| 2010s | uh mage to have as like a fantasy to do |
| 2013s | um |
| 2014s | we really don't want mages to be a pet |
| 2017s | class |
| 2018s | for the most part that's that's the like |
| 2020s | we class identity is a big part of our |
| 2022s | game design pillars and um |
| 2025s | we want to have |
| 2028s | some classes that aren't great with |
| 2029s | minions and some classes that are great |
| 2031s | with minions and you know not having |
| 2033s | that be just like okay well what's the |
| 2035s | mages minion spec what's the primeless |
| 2038s | minion spec what's the sentinel's minion |
| 2039s | spec like we don't we don't want that to |
| 2041s | happen |
| 2042s | and that's why you're gonna see falconer |
| 2044s | um |
| 2045s | be different than a normal minion spec |
| 2047s | because it's not a minion spec because |
| 2048s | we're trying not to have rogue minions |
| 2050s | back that much |
| 2051s | and that's why shadows are different |
| 2053s | like they're um |
| 2055s | they're not like normal minions right |
| 2056s | like there's these mechanics we use to |
| 2058s | make them different and i would say that |
| 2059s | i personally would like mirror images to |
| 2061s | seem more like shadows than minions |
| 2064s | um |
| 2066s | where they're this this like extension |
| 2068s | of you used to conf like used to confuse |
| 2071s | the enemy |
| 2073s | used to increase your |
| 2075s | magic damage potential or maybe reduce |
| 2077s | the power of each hit by increasing the |
| 2079s | number of hits for different synergies |
| 2081s | things like that |
| 2083s | and i think that's definitely possible |
| 2087s | something we'll have to look at |
| 2093s | ah community design subclass mode live |
| 2096s | on stream that'll be pretty cool |
| 2098s | um |
| 2099s | i mean |
| 2101s | we pay attention to the forums and |
| 2102s | suggestions to get posted on discord and |
| 2103s | everything so if you've got suggestions |
| 2105s | for things like that can't hurt to post |
| 2107s | them i know it's hard to make |
| 2108s | suggestions on a system that you don't |
| 2109s | know much about of what's already been |
| 2111s | designed |
| 2112s | um |
| 2115s | but sometimes we see suggestions for |
| 2117s | things that we use other places |
| 2118s | sometimes we see suggestions for things |
| 2120s | that fit surprisingly well sometimes we |
| 2122s | see suggestions that are so good in line |
| 2123s | systems that we change how the system's |
| 2125s | gonna work entirely to match that that's |
| 2127s | happened before |
| 2131s | i can't think of an example of it right |
| 2133s | now but i know it's happened |
| 2142s | yeah we got another title it says gifted |
| 2144s | five t1 subs to the channel thank you |
| 2146s | very much and congrats anyone got one of |
| 2148s | those |
| 2149s | i just got another key |
| 2152s | what is going on |
| 2154s | that is five keys in 36 minutes |
| 2164s | i feel bad i'm taking all your rng guys |
| 2172s | all right when our jesus like |
| 2174s | opens the window for me he closes the |
| 2175s | door for you |
| 2177s | something like that |
| 2180s | there's gotta be a saying in there |
| 2181s | somewhere isn't there |
| 2194s | it's kind of low i need to get my |
| 2195s | resistances up that's that's the goal |
| 2196s | for this stream is fix my resistances |
| 2200s | yeah a lot of them are real though |
| 2203s | especially fire and necrotic so i can do |
| 2206s | so far bastion better |
| 2223s | oh |
| 2230s | can we get uh can we get unblockable |
| 2232s | cause |
| 2233s | unlockable unblockable cosmetics |
| 2235s | unlockable cosmetics tied to progression |
| 2237s | achievements for example a cool hat from |
| 2239s | killing a boss of an empowered timeline |
| 2241s | i think there's a good chance that'll |
| 2242s | happen i think there's an extremely good |
| 2243s | chance that'll happen um |
| 2246s | it's gonna come with the entirety of the |
| 2248s | cosmetic system instead of before but um |
| 2260s | um |
| 2261s | yeah i'd say there's a good chance that |
| 2263s | will that'll happen |
| 2265s | um |
| 2265s | generally i would say more so for |
| 2269s | like okay there might be a few little |
| 2271s | ones for some easier achievements and |
| 2273s | then like |
| 2274s | uh oh you're the first person to reach |
| 2276s | level 100 in the new cycle |
| 2283s | so a little some more exclusive ones i |
| 2285s | think that would be cool |
| 2287s | i still have my |
| 2289s | um what the accounts defunct now but |
| 2292s | my wow account had the grand crusader |
| 2294s | title |
| 2298s | that's a tough one to get |
| 2303s | a very rare one |
| 2305s | actually a bunch of people will be |
| 2306s | competing for that in uh wow classic |
| 2309s | soon |
| 2316s | that's the title that gets handed out to |
| 2317s | 25 people every server |
| 2320s | 25 people per server it's not a lot of |
| 2322s | people when you have a game that big |
| 2339s | yeah things like titles i think are |
| 2340s | better for that things like a cool hat |
| 2342s | for that might be a little too far i |
| 2343s | don't know |
| 2346s | we haven't fully discussed that either |
| 2347s | so there will be changes to that |
| 2350s | but |
| 2352s | last time we talked about i don't think |
| 2353s | there was any opposition to having |
| 2354s | something |
| 2355s | for completing something cosmetic for |
| 2357s | completing achievements in-game |
| 2368s | where am i going |
| 2371s | i'm just wandering |
| 2373s | this seems like a cool place oh let's |
| 2374s | just aggro everything right good job |
| 2376s | mike |
| 2379s | alfona |
| 2380s | [Music] |
| 2398s | all right |
| 2400s | come on |
| 2408s | come on party people uh |
| 2412s | no |
| 2414s | ow my face |
| 2416s | i thought we were friends come on |
| 2419s | gene |
| 2420s | gene stop it gene |
| 2422s | oh |
| 2432s | there we go |
| 2434s | avalanche |
| 2436s | surprise more people didn't say rain or |
| 2437s | winter i also ignored that one person |
| 2439s | who did because i don't like avalanche |
| 2447s | all right |
| 2453s | example of a suggestion so good you |
| 2455s | changed the games i know i don't i don't |
| 2456s | have one sorry |
| 2458s | uh |
| 2458s | i don't know if it's been talked about |
| 2461s | or given other focus in development but |
| 2463s | will cycle content be focused only |
| 2466s | around monolith campaign or will you |
| 2468s | extend all avenues of content arena |
| 2470s | dungeons too um i i think that's |
| 2472s | definitely a |
| 2473s | [Music] |
| 2475s | cycle to cycle question |
| 2477s | um |
| 2479s | i think it's possible that some cycles |
| 2481s | could have little to no change from the |
| 2483s | monolith |
| 2484s | that'd be pretty unlikely um |
| 2489s | but like |
| 2490s | maybe one focuses on a dungeon maybe one |
| 2492s | focuses on a bunch of dungeons maybe one |
| 2494s | focuses on monolith in general they'll |
| 2496s | be like themed content releases that |
| 2498s | will focus on certain aspects of game |
| 2500s | um |
| 2503s | a little add new features to those those |
| 2505s | things and |
| 2506s | like i could see i could see very easily |
| 2508s | see a dungeon being something like a new |
| 2510s | dungeon being something that gets |
| 2512s | added on to |
| 2514s | um |
| 2515s | like okay here's an idea |
| 2518s | uh |
| 2520s | yeah i guess that could work maybe um so |
| 2522s | there's a new dungeon that's only |
| 2524s | accessible from inside the monolith |
| 2527s | uh |
| 2528s | or like or only accessible from the end |
| 2529s | of time in the model for something i |
| 2530s | don't know |
| 2531s | and uh it incorporates both of them |
| 2533s | somehow i don't know |
| 2536s | dungeons generally need to have a |
| 2538s | campaign skip associated with them but |
| 2540s | maybe we've got a few we break that rule |
| 2541s | or something |
| 2543s | um |
| 2544s | this is not a very well formed idea |
| 2546s | sorry |
| 2547s | um |
| 2551s | point is they could be literally |
| 2552s | anything |
| 2555s | maybe there's a uh |
| 2556s | a new item type we add to the game or we |
| 2559s | like oh |
| 2560s | look at my beatle army |
| 2564s | um yeah maybe there's like a new item |
| 2566s | type and a new dungeon |
| 2568s | that's designed to go that's how you get |
| 2570s | that new item type or something like |
| 2571s | that um |
| 2573s | and |
| 2579s | i i don't know |
| 2581s | and that gets added as a cycle |
| 2586s | focus |
| 2587s | gonna have to drop something |
| 2589s | or we'll put it in our |
| 2592s | material pouch |
| 2598s | so i didn't have better ideas for you |
| 2599s | there |
| 2605s | uh if someone gets a cool hat and i |
| 2607s | don't i will literally retail |
| 2610s | let's not do that |
| 2619s | okay it's just the hat |
| 2627s | no i don't know that's that's all very |
| 2629s | much up in the air who knows what'll |
| 2630s | happen maybe it'll be a portrait frame |
| 2633s | maybe it'll be a |
| 2634s | title maybe it'll be a |
| 2636s | um |
| 2641s | i don't know maybe |
| 2642s | maybe we will in a long time from now we |
| 2645s | had gills and we had like guild watching |
| 2646s | and then it's like oh if you complete |
| 2648s | these things you get like a banner you |
| 2650s | can place it in there or something like |
| 2651s | that i don't know |
| 2660s | i'm saying this it could we could add |
| 2662s | something based on achievement |
| 2665s | uh |
| 2667s | related |
| 2668s | actions |
| 2671s | how vague can i be |
| 2673s | are more dungeons in the pipeline or no |
| 2675s | i mean uh there's definitely dungeons |
| 2677s | that are early in the pipeline right now |
| 2680s | um |
| 2681s | there aren't any that we're like testing |
| 2683s | to like push them out right away or |
| 2685s | anything like that but um |
| 2690s | dungeons are a really |
| 2692s | prime place for us to expand content to |
| 2695s | down the road |
| 2696s | um partially because they are |
| 2697s | self-contained |
| 2699s | um |
| 2700s | partially because we can use mechanics |
| 2702s | in there that we can't use anywhere else |
| 2703s | so if we're like we really want to do |
| 2704s | this cool thing but we've never know |
| 2706s | where it'll fit we can just slap it in a |
| 2707s | dungeon |
| 2709s | so dungeons are really designed |
| 2711s | specifically so that we can add content |
| 2714s | later to the game really easily by |
| 2715s | adding a new dungeon |
| 2723s | and when we were coming with ideas for |
| 2725s | the current dungeons that are available |
| 2727s | there's a lot more ideas a lot more |
| 2729s | ideas |
| 2730s | that ended up in the like |
| 2732s | oh it's almost good enough but is this |
| 2734s | one a little better i think so |
| 2736s | um |
| 2737s | category and we've learned a lot from |
| 2739s | these dungeons that have come out |
| 2741s | since playing with them getting feedback |
| 2742s | from all of you like |
| 2743s | ideas change dungeons change |
| 2748s | what are we doing here |
| 2755s | we're just frailty chanting it i do love |
| 2757s | frailty gems |
| 2760s | it is wonderful |
| 2767s | we are primarily using this to apply |
| 2769s | ailments so i don't know if the damage |
| 2772s | is the best thing to put it on |
| 2775s | yeah why not |
| 2778s | why not i do want that though |
| 2782s | and here is this |
| 2785s | no |
| 2790s | it's definitely that |
| 2791s | longer haste i'm all about it |
| 2797s | all about it |
| 2805s | just get another dot on there |
| 2814s | stupid chance |
| 2816s | let's just do bleed chance right |
| 2820s | i'll go back through and fix that all up |
| 2822s | later i know it's |
| 2823s | i know it's not ideal i'm sorry |
| 2829s | another key |
| 2831s | specifically in arena key though so |
| 2835s | let's get more info |
| 2841s | uh since no one is asking questions i |
| 2843s | will greedily ask another please |
| 2844s | greedily ask as many as you want |
| 2848s | uh |
| 2849s | what comes first multiplayer or all the |
| 2852s | subclasses completed for general public |
| 2854s | uh |
| 2856s | i don't know i i uh i don't want to say |
| 2860s | one or the other just because |
| 2862s | um i could be wrong but if i was going |
| 2864s | to be a betting man and i wasn't |
| 2868s | let's say i wasn't working on this game |
| 2869s | when i was on the outside looking in |
| 2871s | giving me given the evidence that i've |
| 2872s | seen |
| 2874s | of what's been talked about the most |
| 2876s | what progress updates i've seen the most |
| 2878s | um |
| 2880s | maybe ooh that's cool |
| 2883s | maybe there was like one of those two |
| 2885s | things that i've seen a lot of |
| 2887s | information about and we keep talking |
| 2888s | about and saying how important it is and |
| 2891s | and one of them we keep saying how it |
| 2892s | hasn't even started work on |
| 2895s | um that might give me a good idea as to |
| 2897s | which one was coming first probably |
| 2907s | what planes can change so who knows |
| 2908s | what'll actually happen |
| 2919s | because math is weird there's an |
| 2921s | infinite number more people working on |
| 2923s | multiplayer than those classes right now |
| 2948s | what's your stance on pets with auto |
| 2950s | pickup gold for the player um i i think |
| 2953s | that if we did that oh my goodness this |
| 2955s | is tricky |
| 2957s | uh if we were going to do that |
| 2959s | it would need to be something that was |
| 2961s | like a story event that gave you the pet |
| 2964s | and then um |
| 2968s | like oh my gosh let's just you know |
| 2970s | chill out for a bit here guys it would |
| 2972s | feel like a story event that gave you |
| 2974s | the pet |
| 2975s | uh and any different pets that could do |
| 2978s | it would would have the exact same |
| 2979s | functionality and would just be a |
| 2981s | cosmetic thing so like you wouldn't be |
| 2982s | able to buy the the functionality that |
| 2984s | you couldn't get in the game already and |
| 2986s | you wouldn't be able to access that |
| 2987s | functionality until you unlocked it in |
| 2989s | the story and and i don't think it would |
| 2990s | be something you could start with |
| 2991s | necessarily like level one |
| 2993s | so even if you'd like bought pets that |
| 2996s | could do it different or like |
| 2997s | cosmetically we're different for it you |
| 2998s | wouldn't have access to it to unlock the |
| 3000s | mechanic it's like how you don't have |
| 3002s | access to your portal |
| 3004s | like we'll have cosmetics for different |
| 3005s | portals |
| 3006s | um but if you didn't have access if you |
| 3008s | hadn't unlocked the portal yet you can't |
| 3009s | use your portal for cosmetics yet |
| 3013s | like some portable player stuff that can |
| 3015s | happen earlier to skip skip content so |
| 3017s | maybe that'll that argument will fall |
| 3018s | apart |
| 3025s | i i don't we we don't have any plans to |
| 3027s | have pets going picking up gold part of |
| 3029s | it is the pickup radius is pretty big |
| 3030s | already |
| 3032s | and |
| 3033s | um more things on screen is not great |
| 3040s | pretty well every chance we get to turn |
| 3041s | something off visually we turned |
| 3043s | something off |
| 3048s | i'm going to clip this and post |
| 3049s | something and hold you to |
| 3051s | lily dev promises x |
| 3054s | wouldn't be the first time and that's |
| 3055s | okay |
| 3065s | what's the current philosophy regarding |
| 3066s | or on crafting ingredient auto pickup |
| 3071s | i often find myself not picking them up |
| 3074s | uh to keep all my stacks of buffs that's |
| 3077s | interesting |
| 3079s | um |
| 3081s | you have a nice beard thank you i |
| 3082s | appreciate that i worked very hard for a |
| 3085s | very long time to make my beard nice and |
| 3087s | then i just kind of went to this like |
| 3088s | weird no maintenance mode where i |
| 3091s | haven't had to do anything to it for a |
| 3093s | long time and it's just nice i don't |
| 3094s | know what's going on basic shampoo |
| 3097s | suddenly all that i need to make my |
| 3099s | beard not suck |
| 3100s | but for a long time it was real itchy |
| 3102s | and i was like different beard oils |
| 3105s | special shampoos and all of a sudden it |
| 3107s | was just like that's fine i'm good |
| 3112s | or what happened i do have this beard |
| 3114s | comb |
| 3115s | if anyone is |
| 3117s | planning on growing a beard or is |
| 3118s | growing a beard it's having a tough time |
| 3119s | with it a nice wooden simple beard comb |
| 3124s | oh |
| 3128s | if i hear that |
| 3132s | it's so nice |
| 3137s | i haven't done that too yet |
| 3142s | let's go really nice though sorry i was |
| 3144s | talking about something uh philosophy on |
| 3146s | auto pickups um |
| 3149s | this is a really long long uh |
| 3153s | this gets asked a lot um there's a lot |
| 3155s | of clips probably of me answering this |
| 3157s | question a dozen times or so i should i |
| 3159s | should make like a |
| 3161s | compilation to be answering this |
| 3162s | question |
| 3164s | uh so you just link it |
| 3166s | but uh the the really short answer is |
| 3169s | you don't auto pick up items and they're |
| 3171s | items so you don't all pick them up |
| 3176s | uh |
| 3178s | why is c4 jewelry so overtuned can we |
| 3180s | when can we expect a nerf um |
| 3183s | i don't think she's that overtuned and |
| 3187s | um i don't know if a nerf's incoming or |
| 3190s | not |
| 3191s | um |
| 3193s | i understand she's extremely difficult |
| 3195s | uh |
| 3201s | i think |
| 3202s | having |
| 3204s | extremely difficult content to |
| 3206s | work your way up to is really positive |
| 3209s | um |
| 3212s | so leading question aside i i i don't |
| 3215s | i don't agree that it's it's it's |
| 3217s | overtuned really i think it's it's super |
| 3219s | end game content and it's really hard |
| 3221s | and that's a good thing to have in the |
| 3223s | game right |
| 3225s | um |
| 3228s | like there's there's not many |
| 3231s | things that it locks it locks out um |
| 3234s | legendary items of item of unique items |
| 3236s | that are over level 80 i think |
| 3240s | maybe it's 85 or even 90. |
| 3243s | that's a really small number of unique |
| 3245s | items and if you're finding uniques that |
| 3248s | have that high level |
| 3249s | that are have legendary potential |
| 3252s | you're probably a really powerful |
| 3254s | character anyways right |
| 3257s | um |
| 3258s | just because that means you're probably |
| 3259s | doing like |
| 3262s | empowered timelines a lot like that's |
| 3265s | yeah um |
| 3268s | there might be a few aspects of it that |
| 3270s | are that are a little a little tough |
| 3272s | this is one of the things that other |
| 3273s | people don't realize that um |
| 3275s | i i know there's been a couple videos |
| 3277s | recently about |
| 3279s | dungeon bad basically um |
| 3282s | and and joel were being overtuned is a |
| 3284s | big part of that which is fine i'm not |
| 3285s | gonna debate whether or not that's true |
| 3287s | or not um |
| 3289s | i mean i guess i just did but the point |
| 3290s | is sorry the point is um |
| 3293s | where was i going with this |
| 3297s | difficulty oh yeah the mechanics |
| 3299s | actually change tier to tier |
| 3302s | so the time between |
| 3304s | her large aoe like i'mma kill everything |
| 3307s | in this you gotta jump the time between |
| 3309s | those shrinks as you go out higher in |
| 3311s | tears |
| 3312s | um |
| 3316s | and there's a couple other other things |
| 3318s | that are a little bit a little bit like |
| 3319s | bigger a little bit more difficult a |
| 3320s | little bit faster moving |
| 3322s | um |
| 3323s | and and maybe that's a little bit too |
| 3325s | aggressive i don't know |
| 3328s | it does take learning the fight really |
| 3329s | well to be able to do those |
| 3335s | um i know that's tough to do because |
| 3336s | it's tough to get keys to learn really |
| 3337s | well but it's a it's a process i guess |
| 3344s | i don't know the first dozen times i |
| 3345s | tried |
| 3347s | um |
| 3348s | like chaos room i died |
| 3350s | horribly |
| 3351s | and just had to walk away because i |
| 3353s | couldn't do it |
| 3359s | i was really good at farming keys as a |
| 3361s | kid but i was not very good at making |
| 3363s | actually good characters |
| 3367s | apparently |
| 3377s | not happening |
| 3387s | uh have you ever thought it would have |
| 3389s | been better to keep the game single |
| 3391s | player yeah i mean that that discussion |
| 3393s | has come up i've never thought it myself |
| 3396s | um |
| 3398s | and like there are things that would be |
| 3400s | better |
| 3401s | but overall i don't think the game would |
| 3402s | be better |
| 3405s | partially because the like |
| 3409s | the main thing about this for me is like |
| 3411s | the multiplayer that's the biggest thing |
| 3413s | for me personally and i know a lot of us |
| 3415s | that's the case |
| 3416s | um |
| 3417s | but but |
| 3419s | we we have had the conversation like a |
| 3421s | couple years ago we had the conversation |
| 3423s | um do we want to |
| 3426s | consider |
| 3427s | scrapping multiplayer that conversation |
| 3428s | happened |
| 3430s | the answer was no |
| 3431s | you do not want to consider scrapping |
| 3433s | multiplayer |
| 3434s | pretty emphatic no from from a lot of |
| 3436s | people very quickly |
| 3438s | um but the question was asked and though |
| 3441s | the conversation was had |
| 3449s | bespoke custom limited edition led |
| 3451s | branded beard comb when |
| 3456s | i'll i'll get back to you in 300 and |
| 3460s | 43 days |
| 3468s | i don't know if next year sleepy or not |
| 3477s | i want that vessel unique though yeah |
| 3479s | it's tough |
| 3482s | after reaching a hundred do you have any |
| 3484s | endless character progression system in |
| 3485s | mind or ideas except gearing to make um |
| 3489s | make a use of experience and maybe a |
| 3490s | skills awakening yeah so there's uh the |
| 3494s | conversation of what hap of like getting |
| 3496s | to level 100 and what happens with |
| 3498s | experience after level 100 is something |
| 3500s | that we've been working on recently |
| 3501s | actually |
| 3503s | um |
| 3504s | i would not be surprised if the uh time |
| 3507s | to 100 was slowed down |
| 3511s | um i think 90 to 100 happens a little |
| 3513s | quick right now |
| 3518s | um and the power level difference |
| 3519s | between them is really not much at all |
| 3523s | um there's a couple things that happen |
| 3524s | in low 90s like gear unlocks and stuff |
| 3526s | like that but that's about it |
| 3529s | um |
| 3533s | it's it's really pretty pretty similar |
| 3535s | power level between 90 and 100 there's |
| 3537s | not a lot that changes |
| 3539s | um |
| 3547s | i think it happens too quick right now |
| 3548s | so i i can see that being something |
| 3549s | that's that slows down |
| 3551s | a little bit you know and then um |
| 3555s | that that helps that just |
| 3556s | in general because there's there's less |
| 3558s | time spent post 100 anyways |
| 3560s | um |
| 3562s | and we do have a couple systems in mind |
| 3564s | for uh that we've talked about that are |
| 3566s | still in development for um |
| 3570s | possibly having extra things to do with |
| 3572s | experience after you hit 100 or even |
| 3574s | while you're just playing |
| 3576s | um |
| 3578s | there's there's been things like having |
| 3580s | them be based having it be basically a |
| 3581s | currency |
| 3583s | um that you can |
| 3585s | spend on certain things |
| 3590s | like uh here's an example of of um |
| 3593s | i don't think it'll happen exactly like |
| 3594s | this but say there's and then this is |
| 3596s | kind of similar to others like this wow |
| 3598s | for as an example here um |
| 3600s | taverns so like |
| 3603s | um and and please excuse me if i'm using |
| 3605s | very old terminology for a while because |
| 3608s | it's been a while |
| 3610s | um |
| 3613s | right right now in wow classic we're |
| 3615s | like right at the exact point that i |
| 3617s | started playing wow in wow classic like |
| 3619s | timelines it was right at the end of |
| 3622s | burning crusade is when i started |
| 3623s | playing so that's that's where my wow |
| 3625s | knowledge comes from i played for |
| 3627s | uh two two expansions |
| 3630s | um anyways the uh |
| 3632s | [Music] |
| 3635s | like taverns so you you you get um |
| 3638s | what they were well is you you wear them |
| 3640s | and every time you get a kill or gain |
| 3641s | experience with this tabard on you gain |
| 3643s | reputation towards a certain faction |
| 3650s | and then you can use that that |
| 3651s | experience or that reputation to to buy |
| 3655s | cosmetics or in a few cases um |
| 3659s | gear actually which was cool |
| 3661s | but i i would say there's |
| 3663s | a good use for late game experience in a |
| 3666s | system like that |
| 3670s | i'd really like to see that |
| 3674s | i think you could uh theme them around |
| 3676s | the gods as factions really easily |
| 3684s | then have like a god hunter faction or |
| 3686s | something like that where it's like an |
| 3687s | anti-god faction or something and |
| 3694s | then that also adds in a really easy way |
| 3696s | to add new factions down the road |
| 3700s | uh with content so i think there's a lot |
| 3702s | of space there which would be really |
| 3702s | cool |
| 3704s | that's what i'd like to see |
| 3706s | i can't say that's actually what will |
| 3707s | happen at all |
| 3725s | one oh come on |
| 3730s | let's just go over there guys for a |
| 3731s | second |
| 3737s | let me kill you from over here |
| 3740s | all right please avoid adding so many |
| 3743s | path blocks in dungeons |
| 3748s | yeah dungeon layout for randomization is |
| 3751s | still something that's in being worked |
| 3753s | on |
| 3755s | it's |
| 3756s | there's room for improvement there |
| 3765s | uh do you think the players should be |
| 3767s | able to do all content with their build |
| 3769s | or do you see the game going more |
| 3770s | towards i'm going to log on to my t-fold |
| 3773s | g4 jewelry killing uh build to make my |
| 3776s | legendary now i'm going to go on to my |
| 3777s | mono farming build etc i mean i think |
| 3779s | there's always builds that will |
| 3783s | thrive at certain tasks |
| 3785s | and |
| 3787s | a lot of that has to do with the variety |
| 3789s | of content so for example |
| 3791s | arena that i'm standing in right now is |
| 3793s | a great example that having |
| 3795s | uh long distance movement skills to |
| 3797s | advance through a zone quickly is |
| 3800s | completely useless here |
| 3801s | um |
| 3802s | it is useful to have fast repositioning |
| 3804s | abilities so like shift really shines in |
| 3806s | an arena setting because you can quickly |
| 3808s | reposition out of um oncoming attacks |
| 3811s | great um volatile reversals really |
| 3814s | shines in arena because you can quickly |
| 3816s | move yourself out of um |
| 3818s | danger and stuff like that but it |
| 3819s | doesn't actually help you |
| 3821s | shift kind of does but it doesn't help |
| 3822s | you just zoom through a level super |
| 3824s | super fast |
| 3825s | um |
| 3826s | and so i think that |
| 3829s | just by the nature of having varied |
| 3830s | content you're gonna see builds that |
| 3832s | that thrive in certain situations and |
| 3835s | other builds thrive in other situations |
| 3837s | just naturally so there's always going |
| 3838s | to be like this character just because i |
| 3840s | can make this build |
| 3842s | really focus on |
| 3844s | all the damage types that are in this |
| 3846s | this area like um |
| 3848s | uh sulfide bastion it's like physical |
| 3850s | fire necrotic you can basically ignore |
| 3853s | every other resistance |
| 3854s | in that place there's a little bit of |
| 3856s | some of the other ones but basically you |
| 3858s | just ignore everything else so you can |
| 3859s | go into there with like your gear can be |
| 3862s | specifically set up your character can |
| 3863s | specifically set up just like ignore |
| 3865s | cold resistance ignore poison resistance |
| 3867s | there might be a little point in there |
| 3868s | but my point is is that like |
| 3871s | you can tune your build to the content |
| 3872s | you're doing really easily in a lot of |
| 3874s | different situations |
| 3877s | and it can help a lot |
| 3880s | let's do that why not i'll figure out |
| 3882s | that later |
| 3883s | i always say that the bill just gets |
| 3885s | really janky um |
| 3890s | so i while i think we and then there's |
| 3893s | like all-round builds where it's like |
| 3895s | okay this can do basically anything |
| 3896s | maybe it doesn't do anything |
| 3898s | great but it can do basically anything |
| 3900s | and i think that's fine too and i think |
| 3902s | that um |
| 3905s | as long as it's not considered |
| 3909s | like |
| 3912s | as long as we don't get into the |
| 3913s | situation it okay it's a balancing act |
| 3916s | and i i can see us making minor |
| 3919s | balancing adjustments |
| 3921s | to uh to improve |
| 3923s | this type of thing |
| 3924s | and when i say improve i guess i mean um |
| 3928s | avoid situations where there's like |
| 3931s | content that maybe there's two builds |
| 3933s | that can do so so let's use the l2 as an |
| 3935s | example and the um |
| 3938s | uh pandemonium event chaos tristram |
| 3940s | uber uber diablo uber mephisto and uber |
| 3943s | bale |
| 3946s | um |
| 3949s | it is |
| 3951s | really |
| 3953s | really difficult |
| 3955s | almost impossible to do that content on |
| 3958s | well i'm going to say pre-patched g4 |
| 3960s | cause i haven't actually played 24 yet |
| 3962s | but |
| 3963s | um if anyone doesn't know there was very |
| 3965s | recently a major balance change to uh |
| 3967s | diablo 2 the first one in over a decade |
| 3970s | unbelievably exciting can't wait to try |
| 3972s | it out and play it more i'm kind of |
| 3973s | waiting for the ladder to reset |
| 3975s | um |
| 3977s | anyways the the like the final hardest |
| 3980s | thing to do in that game |
| 3982s | um |
| 3984s | a couple classes kind of can't really do |
| 3986s | it |
| 3987s | they can |
| 3989s | um pulling it off on an amazon is really |
| 3992s | hard pulling it off on a druid is really |
| 3996s | hard |
| 3997s | um |
| 3999s | there's like a couple sorceress builds |
| 4001s | that can do it and they're weird |
| 4002s | sorcerer's builds too like |
| 4005s | um and and when you get like |
| 4008s | full godly gear set up and you're just |
| 4010s | like i am |
| 4012s | like |
| 4013s | let me let me look at every piece of |
| 4014s | gear in the game let me like write down |
| 4016s | the absolute best in slot for everything |
| 4018s | which is almost impossible to do in that |
| 4019s | game yes you can you can find a build |
| 4022s | for every class that can do it but for |
| 4024s | most people with a reasonable amount of |
| 4025s | time there's a lot of character classes |
| 4028s | that just can't do it |
| 4029s | um and then you have a paladin |
| 4032s | that i there's a video that came out a |
| 4033s | little while ago of someone doing it |
| 4035s | like level 32 or something ridiculous |
| 4038s | and not even that perfect gear at the |
| 4041s | end of the video they were like looking |
| 4042s | at their ring and they're like oh my god |
| 4044s | this ring is like plus four health |
| 4047s | there's like basically they did a super |
| 4049s | level missing a piece and they're like a |
| 4050s | key piece of gear |
| 4053s | and and so there's like there's a lot of |
| 4055s | disparity in that and that's an extreme |
| 4056s | example and if we get that far |
| 4059s | there's something wrong and we want it |
| 4060s | we want to fix it |
| 4062s | but if if we're looking at it where |
| 4065s | um |
| 4066s | people are building specialized maybe |
| 4069s | like they're late game |
| 4070s | they've they're it's late in the season |
| 4073s | or it's in standard league and they're |
| 4074s | like they've got these like really |
| 4075s | specialized characters to complete this |
| 4077s | content really well but they've got |
| 4078s | other characters that could do it just |
| 4080s | not as quickly |
| 4081s | i think that's totally fine |
| 4083s | i don't see a problem with that myself |
| 4085s | i might |
| 4086s | that might not that viewpoint might not |
| 4088s | be agreed with by everyone on the team |
| 4090s | so i don't want to |
| 4091s | um |
| 4092s | i can't say we've had major |
| 4093s | conversations about this recently |
| 4099s | but so i i feel like we would take |
| 4100s | balancing steps to ensure that |
| 4102s | most content was completable by most |
| 4105s | reasonable builds |
| 4106s | but i don't want to say all content with |
| 4108s | all builds because |
| 4109s | you know |
| 4110s | there's some weird ones out there but |
| 4112s | i'd say |
| 4112s | there's like there should be probably at |
| 4114s | least one way to build each class that |
| 4117s | should be able to do all types of |
| 4118s | content |
| 4119s | i think that's a good way of putting it |
| 4122s | and that's a that's a minimum so i say |
| 4123s | at least like |
| 4125s | we prefer other things and we take steps |
| 4127s | to do other things but |
| 4132s | wouldn't be mandatory so to speak |
| 4139s | i don't know let me look this is |
| 4140s | something that i would be really |
| 4141s | interested to hear people's feedback on |
| 4143s | what they want to see |
| 4145s | like do you want to see the situation |
| 4147s | where |
| 4148s | like you have to make really specialized |
| 4150s | characters to do super in-game content |
| 4152s | and if you're not |
| 4153s | and and like the way you're building |
| 4154s | your characters you're going to end up |
| 4156s | not being able to do monoliths even |
| 4157s | because you've got this like |
| 4159s | jewelry killer build and it's all it's |
| 4161s | good at just can't do anything else do |
| 4162s | you want to see that i don't know |
| 4168s | probably not |
| 4170s | what's my favorite master for |
| 4171s | multiplayer i've basically been playing |
| 4173s | pure rogue for the last couple months |
| 4175s | um i'm having a ton of fun with it i've |
| 4178s | been basically playing this this |
| 4179s | character i'm playing right now in |
| 4180s | multiplayer |
| 4182s | um |
| 4183s | just it's nowhere near as good in |
| 4185s | multiplayer because i play |
| 4187s | actually actually weekly i play the same |
| 4189s | amount of each character right now but |
| 4191s | um |
| 4194s | the uh |
| 4197s | this one started |
| 4198s | like 40 levels higher 50 levels higher |
| 4210s | and there's stuff that doesn't work in |
| 4211s | multiplayer yet so |
| 4212s | it's hard to |
| 4214s | get quite as much out of it |
| 4219s | uh my first time seeing this game how is |
| 4221s | it different from other games like it oh |
| 4222s | cool question welcome |
| 4224s | this is our game it's called last epoch |
| 4226s | we work on it it's pretty cool i like it |
| 4229s | um i would say one of the key things |
| 4231s | that sets last epoch apart from most |
| 4234s | other games like it is our skill system |
| 4237s | so every single skill |
| 4239s | asterisk has a |
| 4242s | skill tree that goes with it |
| 4245s | i say asterisk because there's one that |
| 4246s | doesn't but it will |
| 4248s | um |
| 4249s | [Laughter] |
| 4250s | and so uh you specialize in five skills |
| 4253s | um typically people use those five |
| 4255s | specialized skills in their bar there's |
| 4256s | a few times where you don't um |
| 4259s | and |
| 4260s | they go up to level 20 you can get items |
| 4262s | that push it above the 20 threshold um |
| 4265s | and you specialize and build the skill |
| 4268s | tree out for each skill and they're |
| 4270s | unique skill trees for each skill |
| 4275s | so the amount of |
| 4277s | like you can it's kind of like a a build |
| 4279s | a skill system where you can kind of |
| 4281s | make your own skills um within the the |
| 4285s | confines that we've given you so like um |
| 4290s | it lets us do it's very similar in a |
| 4293s | sense there's a lot of similarities to |
| 4294s | path of exile's um |
| 4296s | skill gem system where you can kind of |
| 4298s | build a skill right with uh with support |
| 4300s | gems |
| 4302s | the big difference is that we can make |
| 4305s | really specific things on these nodes |
| 4308s | for these trees because it's like |
| 4311s | because we don't have to worry about |
| 4312s | those support gems or those nodes |
| 4314s | working on any other skill tree |
| 4316s | so the the nodes can be really |
| 4317s | transformative really interesting and |
| 4319s | and change the skill very heavily so |
| 4321s | it's almost unrecognizable |
| 4323s | um sometimes that that is just something |
| 4325s | a little like an element change um |
| 4330s | but we don't want to have the ability to |
| 4332s | change and this is part of the reason |
| 4333s | why we can do this is because |
| 4335s | um while we may want fireball to be able |
| 4337s | to be like we have a node and fireball |
| 4339s | that lets you add lightning damage to it |
| 4340s | so it becomes a plasma ball so it's fire |
| 4342s | and lightning there's no way to make |
| 4344s | fireball into a frost ball so we don't |
| 4346s | have to have like just a |
| 4348s | fire |
| 4349s | um |
| 4351s | or a lightning conversion support gem |
| 4353s | that works on anything and a frost |
| 4354s | conversion of that works on anything we |
| 4356s | can pick which things these |
| 4358s | conversion gems or support nodes work on |
| 4360s | type thing |
| 4362s | so we have other ones like a volcanic |
| 4364s | orb which is if you play dl2 it's very |
| 4366s | similar to frozen orb just a fire |
| 4368s | version um and it has a node in there |
| 4370s | that converts it to |
| 4371s | frozen orb but there's nothing in there |
| 4373s | that converts it to lightning |
| 4377s | that's a really basic example of that |
| 4381s | i think that's the |
| 4382s | one of the most |
| 4383s | distinctive things |
| 4386s | about us |
| 4390s | but there's a lot of awesome stuff |
| 4397s | i i feel like there's actually a video |
| 4400s | that uh |
| 4401s | [Music] |
| 4403s | i don't want to say who was someone made |
| 4404s | it that i saw like a year ago or so that |
| 4406s | was like |
| 4408s | what makes epoch unique or something |
| 4410s | like that |
| 4415s | i can't remember who made it i don't |
| 4416s | want to say someone and then just be |
| 4418s | wrong |
| 4422s | what's with all these bengali matriarchs |
| 4424s | huh |
| 4436s | that's right we dash into the storm |
| 4446s | there we go |
| 4449s | i did it |
| 4452s | oh you know what |
| 4453s | let's show off a little something |
| 4454s | something here |
| 4460s | so we've got some new vfx for some old |
| 4462s | skills |
| 4464s | um |
| 4466s | that i'm gonna be showing you today |
| 4469s | so here is |
| 4472s | uh this one first |
| 4477s | so this is a new vfx for judgment |
| 4481s | which is a paladin skill and i really |
| 4483s | like the visual change i think it's a |
| 4484s | big upgrade |
| 4488s | so yeah it's like a big slam and then it |
| 4490s | leaves stuff behind |
| 4502s | oh mike you suck |
| 4507s | the other one's such a loop that's weird |
| 4510s | yeah little little visual update to it |
| 4514s | oh that's another question i got what's |
| 4515s | going on |
| 4517s | i know it's something that's been talked |
| 4518s | about on the past but |
| 4520s | uh will penalty on death such as exp |
| 4523s | lost still a consideration or do you |
| 4526s | move away from this over time as a topic |
| 4529s | um |
| 4531s | i i think there's a very low chance we |
| 4534s | will add an experience loss |
| 4536s | penalty on death at this point |
| 4539s | it's not off the table |
| 4541s | uh but i think |
| 4543s | that it's unlikely guys |
| 4546s | wouldn't god hunter faction be immortal |
| 4548s | empire yeah i guess you're right sorry |
| 4550s | it kind of it's like they're uh |
| 4555s | when the gods are gone already at that |
| 4556s | point i don't know |
| 4558s | normally gone i kind of want to do that |
| 4563s | so if everyone should have access to |
| 4565s | something like t4 legendaries where's my |
| 4567s | charm turf |
| 4568s | ah jewel is so hard for melees it is |
| 4571s | very hard for me lines you're right |
| 4574s | i kind of want to do that |
| 4577s | don't have a good answer for you |
| 4579s | are you guys looking into getting |
| 4581s | multiple tries for bosses this would |
| 4582s | help new players learn the bosses better |
| 4584s | without it feeling bad |
| 4586s | i also want to remind you about |
| 4588s | barbarian mastery for |
| 4590s | barbarian mastery for post launch i |
| 4592s | wants it i do have barbarian mastery |
| 4594s | written down as a possible |
| 4597s | post launch mastery who knows if it'll |
| 4599s | happen but it is written down don't |
| 4600s | worry |
| 4602s | it's in our class design document |
| 4604s | i was updating that yesterday |
| 4608s | um |
| 4610s | as far as multiple attempts for a boss |
| 4612s | go |
| 4613s | uh |
| 4614s | it's it's on our list to talk about uh |
| 4616s | probably next week |
| 4618s | um |
| 4620s | i cannot do that |
| 4622s | there has to be a maximum number of |
| 4625s | retries i think |
| 4627s | um |
| 4629s | and you can in the monolith of fate at |
| 4630s | least you can do this already |
| 4633s | um no one does because it's not optimal |
| 4635s | and it sucks and everyone's like man |
| 4636s | this is terrible but you can do it so if |
| 4639s | you just farm up enough |
| 4641s | i actually did it today when i i did um |
| 4644s | the dragon boss back to back instead of |
| 4646s | the stream because i had just got too |
| 4647s | much stability |
| 4651s | um |
| 4655s | so there's that |
| 4657s | as far as um |
| 4660s | dungeon bosses go that's a different |
| 4662s | story |
| 4664s | i i personally do like the idea of |
| 4666s | having multiple |
| 4668s | attempts on a single boss in the dungeon |
| 4671s | um i don't know if there's some sort of |
| 4672s | like minor penalty for |
| 4675s | for doing that like okay here's an |
| 4677s | example this is not something we've |
| 4678s | talked about so |
| 4679s | this is just something i thought of |
| 4681s | right now as an example of a minor pound |
| 4682s | penalty i'm not saying this is something |
| 4683s | that we're going to do |
| 4685s | um you could have in temporal sanctum uh |
| 4689s | every time you die the maximum level of |
| 4691s | unique that that will be accepted in the |
| 4695s | um |
| 4696s | forge is reduced by one so say you're |
| 4698s | like okay i've got a little 50 unique i |
| 4700s | want to make into a legendary and i'm |
| 4702s | doing one that lets me do level 80 or 80 |
| 4704s | or lower you have 30 attempts you know |
| 4706s | it's kind of a weird way to do it but |
| 4708s | yeah there's |
| 4709s | there's some wiggle room in there |
| 4710s | possibly i i don't know what we would do |
| 4712s | for it i do like the idea of having |
| 4714s | multiple attempts i think 30 is too many |
| 4715s | so you know |
| 4716s | whatever there's it's a discussion we |
| 4719s | still need to have um |
| 4722s | it was intentionally just one |
| 4724s | to begin with |
| 4726s | but |
| 4727s | i kind of you know we'll talk about it |
| 4728s | still |
| 4730s | uh one distinctive thing is the mastery |
| 4733s | system with a basic mastery in advanced |
| 4735s | mastery issues from yes um so our class |
| 4737s | this is in response to uh |
| 4741s | this is our passive system so your base |
| 4743s | class i've picked a rogue these are |
| 4746s | these are my passives it goes up to the |
| 4747s | right increasing to the right once you |
| 4748s | get to 20 of them |
| 4751s | and you unlock a master you gain access |
| 4753s | to the mastery so |
| 4754s | um |
| 4756s | master passives and skills to go with it |
| 4757s | so i have selected marksman but there's |
| 4759s | also blade dancer and will eventually be |
| 4760s | falconer as well so there's three |
| 4761s | mastery classes per base class |
| 4764s | um and you can kind of multi-class i've |
| 4766s | i've gone into blade dancer a little bit |
| 4767s | i wanted these five points um |
| 4770s | just like dexterity and glancing blow |
| 4772s | chance so |
| 4774s | it's good it's good note i might put |
| 4775s | more into it later |
| 4777s | um and you can only get it up to the |
| 4778s | bottom half |
| 4780s | multi-classing so i don't have access to |
| 4781s | these at all because they're in the |
| 4782s | upper half of blade dancer and then as a |
| 4784s | marksman i get these extra bonuses for |
| 4786s | just being a marksman i get this skill |
| 4788s | and because i'm pretty far into marksman |
| 4790s | i get |
| 4790s | all these skills as well access to |
| 4794s | these are all the skills i have access |
| 4795s | to these are the blade dancer skills |
| 4796s | that i don't have access to because |
| 4797s | they're greyed out |
| 4799s | um and right now rogue has the fewest |
| 4801s | skills of any class by quite a large |
| 4803s | margin it's missing a base class skill |
| 4805s | it's missing a mastery class a |
| 4808s | base class passive unlock skill |
| 4810s | it's messing one blade dancer skill one |
| 4812s | marksman skill and five falconer skills |
| 4820s | uh the video is still |
| 4822s | in the middle of the screen it is i'm |
| 4824s | talking about something on screen and no |
| 4826s | one can see it because i'm so good at |
| 4828s | this |
| 4831s | passives marksman blade dancer lower |
| 4834s | section |
| 4835s | chain that i was talking about skills |
| 4837s | missing missing missing missing missing |
| 4840s | just a recap there you go |
| 4843s | [Laughter] |
| 4848s | yeah everybody you know exactly what i |
| 4849s | feel yep |
| 4851s | this is things i do this like every |
| 4853s | stream |
| 4854s | i'm just bad at it |
| 4861s | i'm just bad at it it's okay though |
| 4864s | nice recap thank you |
| 4873s | okay moving on it's really warm in here |
| 4876s | oh i just realized maybe this is |
| 4878s | actually better but my lights weren't on |
| 4882s | better worse clip it and ship it |
| 4885s | there we go |
| 4888s | uh hi game looks very cool how many |
| 4890s | people are working on it how does the |
| 4891s | team coordinate a good question we get |
| 4893s | this fair bit um |
| 4895s | it is |
| 4897s | oh we got to be up over 60 people now 65 |
| 4899s | people i don't know somewhere in that |
| 4900s | range i like we're big enough that so |
| 4902s | i've been here |
| 4904s | not since the very beginning but like |
| 4906s | pretty early on like a few months since |
| 4908s | when i started working on this with |
| 4909s | everyone um and so it's weird for me not |
| 4912s | to know everyone working on the project |
| 4914s | by name and by voice so usually like |
| 4917s | you're in a meeting and you just hear |
| 4918s | someone talking like oh i know who that |
| 4920s | is and like |
| 4921s | i've started to notice in meetings where |
| 4922s | like i hear people talk and i'm like i |
| 4924s | don't know who that is just by their |
| 4925s | voice and it's it's weird it's a weird |
| 4927s | feeling |
| 4929s | um |
| 4932s | so we've hit that point i guess |
| 4934s | uh and we we we're fully remote team so |
| 4936s | we don't have an office anywhere |
| 4938s | we all work from home |
| 4941s | or i i think someone actually has like |
| 4944s | office space they rent to go work in |
| 4946s | um |
| 4950s | but like yeah we're fully remote team we |
| 4952s | coordinate through discord |
| 4954s | um |
| 4955s | and we have a few other systems we use |
| 4957s | for document tracking and things like |
| 4959s | that |
| 4960s | um and coordination but yeah discord is |
| 4962s | our primary means we zoom sometimes um |
| 4965s | discord doesn't have our meetings get |
| 4967s | big enough that that discord can't |
| 4969s | handle it |
| 4970s | um so we zoom for that also has a nice |
| 4973s | recording for meetings built in so we |
| 4975s | like we do like our group-wide meetings |
| 4976s | we do on zoom |
| 4981s | uh yeah |
| 4983s | get |
| 4984s | github a lot of communication that goes |
| 4986s | on there |
| 4990s | there's lots of good uh |
| 4992s | organizational tools there like projects |
| 4994s | and |
| 4995s | uh |
| 4996s | prs and stuff like that |
| 4999s | pull requests it's sorry |
| 5001s | it's a |
| 5003s | a way of |
| 5004s | collaborating on a project |
| 5006s | uh |
| 5008s | well both two people can like work on |
| 5010s | the same thing but uh and then have that |
| 5012s | work automatically merge together |
| 5015s | so that you don't have to like |
| 5017s | wait for someone else to finish what |
| 5018s | you're they're doing before you can do |
| 5020s | what you're doing and you do kind of |
| 5020s | have to in some cases anyways |
| 5027s | but really cool |
| 5029s | if anyone here is even remotely |
| 5031s | considering getting into any sort of |
| 5032s | development or |
| 5034s | like coding in any sense in any |
| 5037s | professional sense at all the best thing |
| 5039s | you can do if you're just starting out |
| 5040s | the best thing you can learn is how to |
| 5041s | use |
| 5043s | uh get perforce anything like that any |
| 5045s | of those tools is by far the best thing |
| 5048s | you can do |
| 5049s | it's not learning a specific language |
| 5051s | it's not learning a specific tool it's |
| 5054s | learning how to use get |
| 5056s | which is the weirdest thing to say |
| 5076s | we're going home |
| 5079s | when can we expect 0.9 i don't know i'm |
| 5083s | sorry it's gonna be a little bit but uh |
| 5086s | i mean hopefully sooner than later be |
| 5087s | nice right |
| 5097s | where is a |
| 5102s | i want more experience |
| 5104s | i need to level up faster |
| 5106s | give me the levels all the levels for |
| 5109s | mike |
| 5112s | let's go up there with that one |
| 5115s | why not right |
| 5120s | for varying value pr's automatically |
| 5122s | merging together for varying values of |
| 5124s | automatically yeah that's why i kinda |
| 5129s | backpedaled a little bit with the |
| 5130s | automatic thing |
| 5153s | easy too easy |
| 5156s | my character's so cocky |
| 5158s | she's she's just like |
| 5161s | this is what i was made to do |
| 5162s | deal with this |
| 5164s | all right |
| 5174s | i'm still pretty sure i know the voices |
| 5176s | and they're not like that at all so it's |
| 5177s | really funny |
| 5183s | too easy |
| 5192s | i i i i just noticed |
| 5195s | how long did i have that stun vfx over |
| 5197s | my head for |
| 5198s | it seemed like a long time |
| 5209s | why are there so many arrows raining |
| 5210s | down over this like this clearly a |
| 5212s | dangerous enemy that we're walking up to |
| 5217s | we should probably just stand in this |
| 5218s | big reign of arrows |
| 5224s | uh when is the character sheet ui coming |
| 5226s | all my stuff need all my status yeah |
| 5228s | it's it's i got pushed back a little bit |
| 5230s | as as obviously you know um |
| 5234s | uh it's still it's still being worked on |
| 5236s | is still something you want to do it's |
| 5237s | still like fully a thing we know we need |
| 5240s | um |
| 5245s | i i have no idea when it's coming we're |
| 5247s | in the stage that we're in right now is |
| 5249s | we're like |
| 5250s | what's stopping us from releasing 1.0 |
| 5252s | let's do that now |
| 5257s | um and realistically like okay i'm not |
| 5260s | saying this won't be done by 1.0 but |
| 5262s | realistically that character is not |
| 5263s | stopping us from losing |
| 5265s | 1.0 would suck if we didn't get it in by |
| 5267s | then |
| 5270s | and i |
| 5271s | fully will push to get it in by then but |
| 5273s | uh it's not stopping us from getting 1.0 |
| 5276s | out the door so uh |
| 5279s | it's not it's not super duper priority |
| 5281s | right now |
| 5290s | i'd love to see more stats in there |
| 5291s | though |
| 5294s | lots more stats |
| 5295s | it's not terrible to get a lot more |
| 5296s | stats in there like we could just like |
| 5298s | add an extra tab to this and like slap a |
| 5300s | bunch more stats in there like we we can |
| 5302s | slap a ton more stats in there it's fine |
| 5304s | it works |
| 5305s | um |
| 5306s | the skill by skill stats is the hard |
| 5308s | part |
| 5317s | i'm gonna do a limited arena run |
| 5322s | uh after this one |
| 5326s | so i'm just gonna do a model this whole |
| 5327s | time and i'd like to mix it up a little |
| 5328s | bit here |
| 5332s | uh why does volcanic orb only have a |
| 5335s | little fire icon next to it um just like |
| 5338s | an ice star literally unplayable |
| 5342s | or has it only been dealing ice damage |
| 5344s | all this time |
| 5348s | what |
| 5350s | i oh you mean in here like these these |
| 5351s | icons |
| 5354s | um |
| 5356s | it should volcanic orb when you're not |
| 5357s | specialized in it should have fire lit |
| 5360s | up |
| 5361s | with |
| 5362s | uh the uh the cold icon |
| 5365s | uh is that the callback on the cold icon |
| 5367s | um |
| 5369s | yeah that's the cold icon right there it |
| 5370s | should have it should it should be like |
| 5372s | this lit up and this cold |
| 5374s | and then once you have um |
| 5379s | specialized into the cold version should |
| 5380s | have the cold one lit up and the fire |
| 5381s | one faded |
| 5385s | if it's not like that please leave us a |
| 5387s | bug report |
| 5391s | oh justin's on it |
| 5393s | it doesn't it does those those icons |
| 5395s | don't mean anything um |
| 5398s | from a functional standpoint it's those |
| 5401s | are literally added manually for each |
| 5402s | skill as just like |
| 5405s | um extra information for the player it's |
| 5407s | nothing to do with um |
| 5410s | actual functionality |
| 5416s | not happening |
| 5418s | we just we've got a little list of |
| 5420s | elements that |
| 5421s | wow double drop that's cool can be |
| 5423s | converted to |
| 5424s | and then it checks what it has compared |
| 5426s | to what it can be converted to and |
| 5427s | generates those icons based on that |
| 5432s | what do we get i'd have to drop |
| 5434s | something |
| 5436s | a nice little 2lp unique there |
| 5439s | go away |
| 5441s | or that go away |
| 5444s | keep the lp |
| 5450s | the fire icon vanishes completely yes |
| 5452s | okay yeah so the um |
| 5454s | fire icon needs to be fire needs to be |
| 5456s | added to the list of things that say |
| 5458s | um |
| 5460s | elements that it can have |
| 5472s | like how you stand in avalanche mic i |
| 5474s | don't know what that is but uh it's |
| 5476s | probably a very dangerous skill that |
| 5477s | everyone dies to all the time right |
| 5482s | never mind it was a graphical bug yet |
| 5484s | uh currently what's fact yeah okay uh |
| 5487s | speaking of volcanic warm will we see a |
| 5489s | rework buff to that skill next patch uh |
| 5491s | it's not on my list as a high up |
| 5494s | candidate for next patch |
| 5496s | oh my goodness that was a mistake shift |
| 5498s | um |
| 5500s | it's not on my list for next patch |
| 5503s | um |
| 5504s | doesn't mean it won't happen but |
| 5514s | we're still coming |
| 5519s | i'd say it's a very low chance that it |
| 5521s | has any major changes next patch |
| 5544s | all right let's go |
| 5548s | oh |
| 5550s | it's almost very bad |
| 5555s | there's definitely no one in this giant |
| 5556s | shadow ball |
| 5558s | over here |
| 5559s | it's it's it's clearly empty |
| 5561s | these arrows shooting you from inside it |
| 5563s | are non-existent or wide open one |
| 5565s | manually and click the button that's |
| 5567s | okay |
| 5569s | uh do you know why the road map on steam |
| 5571s | page is still from before the 0.84 and |
| 5573s | has not been updated since uh yeah |
| 5575s | that's a mistake it should have been |
| 5576s | updated to the 0.51 when that was uh |
| 5578s | happening and |
| 5580s | um |
| 5583s | yeah i mean it's threat class but i |
| 5584s | don't want it um |
| 5587s | we haven't oh hey quiet |
| 5589s | she built |
| 5590s | it's cool |
| 5593s | um |
| 5595s | oh yeah i'm just gonna go to the arena |
| 5597s | let's go to the arena |
| 5599s | get out of here hey |
| 5601s | what am i doing |
| 5612s | there doesn't know you can right click |
| 5614s | on |
| 5616s | arena keys or any key and it'll take you |
| 5617s | to the entrance of them on the map and |
| 5619s | then you can also right click on the |
| 5620s | icon on the map and it takes you right |
| 5622s | into it |
| 5627s | i'm just gonna drop that |
| 5633s | not terrible |
| 5635s | i really need it |
| 5646s | okay let's go in |
| 5650s | we're gonna try it here we go arena key |
| 5652s | oh it's a memory |
| 5653s | i |
| 5654s | don't |
| 5660s | did |
| 5663s | did anybody else see that |
| 5669s | uh these already keys in memory |
| 5673s | uh apparently i have a ton of very key |
| 5674s | memories and that's it |
| 5680s | when i was doing this i generated the |
| 5682s | wrong key a whole bunch |
| 5685s | okay |
| 5690s | it doesn't go up |
| 5702s | there's like there's like a really |
| 5705s | slippery way you could do this |
| 5706s | apparently |
| 5707s | it's like |
| 5709s | i don't know what the trick is to that |
| 5711s | there's a way to make that jump happen |
| 5713s | that's cool |
| 5715s | oh 50 only oh dang it i'll do the other |
| 5717s | one's unlocked whatever let's go for it |
| 5721s | [Music] |
| 5730s | um and the roadmap hasn't been updated |
| 5732s | for next patch yet sorry i was still |
| 5733s | playing with the roadmap stuff um |
| 5735s | because we don't know what the roadmaps |
| 5737s | what what's uh we don't have final |
| 5740s | information ready to share on exactly |
| 5741s | what's coming next patch |
| 5764s | ah |
| 5776s | attempt harder ways that's what i'm |
| 5777s | talking about |
| 5787s | hammer this out get to a harder one |
| 5790s | hopefully it's low enough level that i |
| 5791s | can do it |
| 5804s | uh let's see a question here from x |
| 5807s | extras uh don't forget |
| 5810s | that um |
| 5811s | if you want me to see the question put |
| 5812s | an atlas epoch game in the question and |
| 5814s | i will see it luckily it's a little slow |
| 5816s | right now so i saw it um |
| 5819s | uh what is the reason that ailments |
| 5823s | i would choose here |
| 5826s | it's all the jewelry it's a lot more |
| 5829s | difficulty but you know it's good |
| 5834s | uh if you want to go full me make a boat |
| 5836s | league before they do |
| 5839s | um |
| 5842s | what are we doing here |
| 5844s | uh where's the question oh yeah what's |
| 5846s | the reason ailments only go to stacks of |
| 5848s | 15 why not 50 or 100. um |
| 5851s | there's a issue with |
| 5854s | uh the way ailments are set up |
| 5857s | that cause |
| 5858s | um |
| 5860s | it's basically a technical issue that |
| 5861s | it's that we didn't even have displays |
| 5863s | at all for a really long time |
| 5866s | uh because for performance problems |
| 5869s | and |
| 5870s | um |
| 5871s | the only way we found |
| 5873s | and and the |
| 5874s | only way we found to actually make it |
| 5875s | work with performance uh actually being |
| 5877s | good still is by capping the maximum per |
| 5880s | ailment type at 15. |
| 5884s | um it is something we're actively |
| 5886s | working to |
| 5888s | to fix so there's no cap and it just |
| 5889s | shows the number |
| 5891s | um |
| 5893s | i have no idea if it's gonna happen |
| 5895s | uh i would say there's a good chance of |
| 5897s | happening someday |
| 5900s | when that day is is |
| 5903s | who knows |
| 5907s | just because it's something that would |
| 5908s | be really nice to have |
| 5914s | because i've i like |
| 5916s | for the most part there's very few times |
| 5918s | where you need to know the exact number |
| 5920s | of stacks like really need to know the |
| 5921s | exact number of stacks there are a few |
| 5924s | um it's usually in very high level stuff |
| 5927s | um |
| 5930s | and it's but it's pretty rare |
| 5932s | so |
| 5933s | it would be nice to have to |
| 5935s | just |
| 5936s | you know an easy way to tell what you're |
| 5938s | doing better with your build is just to |
| 5939s | see like okay i'm getting more stacks up |
| 5941s | on these things like i see this never |
| 5943s | going to like |
| 5944s | 30 normally i see that number stacking |
| 5946s | up to like 60 normally it's also just a |
| 5948s | cool thing to like see how many stacks |
| 5949s | you can get on a boss in the middle of a |
| 5950s | fight um |
| 5953s | so there's a few reasons why it'd be |
| 5954s | really nice to have that be a proper |
| 5955s | number but for the most part the really |
| 5958s | important information is which things |
| 5960s | are on it and is it a few or is it a lot |
| 5965s | and those are kind of the like important |
| 5966s | things |
| 5967s | and with what we have now we do get that |
| 5969s | so it's not ideal |
| 5972s | you know but it's still good |
| 5975s | um well we don't care about temple |
| 5977s | sanctum cues so let's just grab some |
| 5978s | glyphs |
| 5986s | any plans on adding a dps calculation on |
| 5989s | the dummies no |
| 5992s | there's not |
| 6000s | it's it is it's not impossible |
| 6003s | but um |
| 6005s | i'm a really big fan of build diversity |
| 6007s | and sort of exploring your own builds |
| 6009s | and things like that and |
| 6011s | it's difficult to say if |
| 6014s | and there are arguments to go both ways |
| 6016s | i will fully acknowledge their arguments |
| 6018s | to go both ways on if having proper dps |
| 6021s | numbers |
| 6023s | improves or |
| 6026s | like increases or decreases the total |
| 6028s | number of |
| 6029s | bill variety that's out there |
| 6033s | um |
| 6035s | it's a lot easier to |
| 6038s | uh to compare two builds to each other |
| 6040s | if you have a exact metric |
| 6043s | that you can say like this one's better |
| 6045s | because it does |
| 6047s | um like it's got 4 million dps okay well |
| 6051s | this one has 10 million dps okay the 10 |
| 6053s | million dps one's better |
| 6055s | like there's just there's this number |
| 6057s | that you can compare them together with |
| 6060s | um and and not having that number i |
| 6063s | think helps a lot |
| 6065s | uh |
| 6066s | and i could be wrong i i don't know i |
| 6067s | don't really evidence really back this |
| 6068s | claim up it's is that the |
| 6071s | not having that number |
| 6073s | increases the bill diversity because |
| 6075s | even if you have build guides that |
| 6077s | people are following it's really hard to |
| 6078s | say like |
| 6079s | conclusively this one's better |
| 6082s | um |
| 6084s | and so you end up with maybe not a |
| 6086s | different number of builds but maybe a a |
| 6089s | larger distribution across those builds |
| 6092s | and |
| 6093s | the play style is taken into greater |
| 6095s | account when selecting which build you |
| 6097s | want so it's it's instead of just like |
| 6100s | um oh i've this build does 10000 dps and |
| 6103s | this build does 20 000 dps it's |
| 6105s | both of these builds can complete |
| 6107s | t4 jewelry and i like the way this one |
| 6110s | plays better |
| 6112s | and i i think that's kind of what ends |
| 6114s | up happening which i think is positive |
| 6116s | but |
| 6118s | i mean |
| 6119s | i'd wanna have a lot more data to back |
| 6121s | that claim out before i |
| 6123s | said anything conclusive about it really |
| 6129s | i forgot to get these |
| 6131s | barrel break |
| 6132s | they're not working |
| 6138s | barrel break doesn't work on those |
| 6139s | barrels |
| 6141s | it's not good |
| 6145s | unique piece of armor |
| 6148s | go |
| 6152s | there will always be meta builds but if |
| 6154s | the play style is fun non-meta builds |
| 6156s | will remain playable yeah and and i |
| 6159s | i guess i just want to |
| 6162s | encourage |
| 6168s | that more |
| 6171s | and i don't know if having a dps |
| 6173s | calculator makes it easier for people to |
| 6174s | make their own builds um |
| 6180s | or not |
| 6182s | you know like you still have to |
| 6183s | test it somehow |
| 6185s | so does having a dps calculator |
| 6188s | really do that or does it just put |
| 6189s | greater emphasis on damage |
| 6192s | in in those in those build testing |
| 6193s | situations |
| 6197s | because you could just as easily set a |
| 6198s | timer and be like how fast can i get can |
| 6200s | i get through |
| 6201s | like t-force active or something like |
| 6203s | that um |
| 6205s | and that is another metric it's just |
| 6207s | it's a metric that that uses |
| 6209s | uh like real game situations |
| 6211s | to really |
| 6213s | to measure the magic |
| 6226s | oh |
| 6228s | come here on |
| 6230s | oh |
| 6243s | you actually don't do that much damage |
| 6250s | partially because you're level 50. |
| 6257s | let's do that i like that |
| 6259s | let's trade sort of javelin punctures |
| 6261s | right |
| 6271s | look it's me over there i swear |
| 6289s | he's got the no shield node on shield |
| 6291s | bash |
| 6293s | yeah bulba fist again |
| 6295s | wow |
| 6296s | [Music] |
| 6299s | it's a nice ring |
| 6301s | physical damage damage over time and two |
| 6303s | resistances that i'm missing |
| 6309s | a less good necklace |
| 6327s | a lot of health on these isn't there |
| 6329s | there's a lot of help on those oh it's |
| 6332s | gonna be tough to work get that in |
| 6337s | might not make good |
| 6342s | i really wanna make that jump work again |
| 6359s | uh |
| 6360s | to go in for another one trying to do a |
| 6362s | little harder one this arena key |
| 6373s | does this work right click here yeah |
| 6374s | okay that works too |
| 6375s | level 70. yeah this is gonna be tough |
| 6380s | i might be able to do it |
| 6383s | should i give it a shot |
| 6386s | should i give this a shot or do a |
| 6387s | different |
| 6388s | uh dungeon |
| 6389s | i don't think we have time for both |
| 6395s | does anyone care |
| 6397s | [Laughter] |
| 6408s | okay while we wait for someone to answer |
| 6409s | if they want me to do this or a |
| 6410s | different dungeon i'll uh |
| 6412s | show you another vfx update |
| 6415s | this is the new hammer throw |
| 6419s | um |
| 6421s | so we're also |
| 6424s | we are all like so uh hammer is getting |
| 6426s | all new |
| 6428s | um visual elements |
| 6430s | not just the visuals but also like it's |
| 6433s | called visual elements um but it |
| 6435s | encompasses the the visuals and the |
| 6437s | sound as well so there's now we actually |
| 6440s | made a bunch of new tech for sound |
| 6442s | events just in general for hammer throw |
| 6445s | so there's now like a unique sound for |
| 6447s | when they're rotating around you there's |
| 6449s | a unique sound for when they start |
| 6451s | returning to you if they're in return |
| 6453s | mode and and like you catch them there's |
| 6455s | a different sound there as well |
| 6457s | um |
| 6464s | so there's lots of new new visuals for |
| 6466s | hammer throw i really think it's a big |
| 6467s | improvement personally |
| 6472s | it was an old school hammer throws like |
| 6473s | one of our first skills i think it's |
| 6475s | really important to have the skills that |
| 6476s | are unlocked really early so like flurry |
| 6478s | shurikens shift acid flask having these |
| 6481s | skills that you start the game with |
| 6482s | being really solid getting that good |
| 6483s | first impression is important |
| 6486s | uh |
| 6488s | what's your opinion on the current state |
| 6489s | of summon bear skill from prime list it |
| 6492s | is really old |
| 6494s | and |
| 6495s | um we've learned a lot of really good |
| 6498s | things about how to make good skills |
| 6500s | since we last worked on prime list |
| 6503s | primal summon bear |
| 6505s | and it needs a lot of those principles |
| 6507s | applied to it in order to make it be |
| 6510s | not terrible |
| 6518s | some bear is high on my list of rework |
| 6520s | skills |
| 6521s | so saber tooth |
| 6523s | um |
| 6525s | the visuals need to be updated for them |
| 6526s | as well |
| 6528s | uh and we do a lot of work on visuals in |
| 6530s | conjunction with functionality for |
| 6532s | skills now so we um |
| 6534s | before we updated the functionality for |
| 6536s | the skills and and |
| 6539s | like get new animations and new uh new |
| 6541s | visuals on on the the bear itself and |
| 6544s | saber tooth itself for like say like |
| 6546s | there's like a cold note on the |
| 6547s | saber-tooth and how those visuals get |
| 6548s | applied to the savory skin we wanted to |
| 6551s | have the most up-to-date |
| 6553s | version of that the version we're gonna |
| 6555s | release with on that before we started |
| 6556s | doing those making those changes |
| 6558s | um |
| 6561s | so there are |
| 6562s | [Music] |
| 6563s | clear things that will come to saber |
| 6566s | tooth and bear |
| 6567s | uh visually at the same time as |
| 6570s | functionality updates |
| 6572s | uh bone golem is another one same thing |
| 6576s | it's just so we don't double up on work |
| 6578s | because say we were to like |
| 6580s | i know it already has a cult already has |
| 6582s | cold but like say we were to add cold to |
| 6583s | sabretooth before going to the new model |
| 6586s | we'd have to do that work twice to add |
| 6588s | the cold to it visually and uh it's just |
| 6590s | a waste of time |
| 6592s | so |
| 6597s | we don't like wasting time |
| 6599s | especially we don't have a lot of time |
| 6601s | left |
| 6602s | before we before we have to |
| 6604s | ship it |
| 6623s | we like to ship it there's a better way |
| 6625s | putting it |
| 6631s | because a lot of you have been very |
| 6633s | patient with us for a very long time |
| 6636s | and we'd like to reward you |
| 6641s | is there a reason why oh i should |
| 6643s | probably be having my hands on the |
| 6644s | keyboard mouse instead of a random pan |
| 6646s | on my desk |
| 6647s | uh is there a reason why ford strike |
| 6649s | ride vengeance and other melee sentinel |
| 6651s | skills do not have the fire tanks |
| 6654s | uh forge guard could really use the fire |
| 6656s | tag on forge strike does it have |
| 6658s | it doesn't have does it have fire damage |
| 6662s | porsche |
| 6667s | i think it's just physical isn't it |
| 6670s | a lot of them have fire tanks uh but |
| 6672s | rive doesn't |
| 6675s | i so part of the reason is just |
| 6678s | um |
| 6685s | something that i say a lot i always try |
| 6686s | and find new ways to say it just because |
| 6688s | and i don't like repeating the same |
| 6690s | thing over and over again cause it's |
| 6690s | kind of boring but i believe quite |
| 6692s | heavily that restrictions breed |
| 6694s | creativity |
| 6697s | um |
| 6700s | and this this comes into play a lot with |
| 6702s | uh with gear like when i'm talking about |
| 6704s | set pieces and gear |
| 6707s | but if you give yourself like a specific |
| 6709s | restriction compared to the normal set |
| 6712s | of things and the easy example i can |
| 6714s | give you is magic cards |
| 6716s | building building a commander deck for |
| 6718s | magic it's the thing that i have a lot |
| 6719s | of experience with um |
| 6721s | and so you can |
| 6724s | uh |
| 6725s | like build a a deck with no restrictions |
| 6727s | and you'll put |
| 6729s | uh arcane cigna into that deck you'll |
| 6731s | put soul ring in that deck you'll put |
| 6732s | command tower in that deck |
| 6734s | um |
| 6736s | you'll put like there's a good chance |
| 6737s | you'll put it like i just need generic |
| 6739s | cards because they work in basically |
| 6740s | anything you put like a scroll rack in |
| 6741s | that deck like you'll put there's a lot |
| 6743s | of things that you'll put in decks |
| 6744s | because they're just good and they just |
| 6745s | go in anything |
| 6746s | um it's kind of boring but it's you know |
| 6749s | it works or whatever uh and then |
| 6752s | say you put a restriction on that deck |
| 6755s | like |
| 6755s | uh suddenly you can only have and this |
| 6758s | is something i've done and it's |
| 6759s | ridiculous so you can only use odd |
| 6762s | converted mana cost skills or now it's |
| 6764s | called mana value so |
| 6766s | um cards that cost three one three five |
| 6769s | seven nine |
| 6772s | eleven thirteen fifteen |
| 6774s | are there fifteens oh there's fifteen |
| 6775s | now one just got made that fifteen |
| 6777s | it's probably a few more before it |
| 6778s | anyways um |
| 6782s | point is as soon as you do that all |
| 6783s | those a lot of those cards i just said |
| 6786s | you can't you can't put them in the deck |
| 6787s | anymore and you have to find different |
| 6788s | ways different creative ways to achieve |
| 6790s | the same goal |
| 6792s | and i think that's a really that makes |
| 6794s | it really interesting and then like |
| 6797s | on top of that you put another stretch |
| 6798s | down maybe only rare and mythic cards |
| 6799s | you can't put comments on comments which |
| 6800s | seems weird but like are you making a |
| 6803s | three-man value |
| 6804s | or an odd value deck |
| 6807s | um |
| 6810s | and you can only use rare cards suddenly |
| 6811s | you can't use things like |
| 6813s | um |
| 6814s | cultivate kadama's reach and like really |
| 6817s | common green rant spells and there's |
| 6818s | like these things that you just like put |
| 6819s | into every deck that works that i can go |
| 6821s | in so you just can't |
| 6823s | and |
| 6824s | it really gives you these um forces you |
| 6827s | look at creative solutions to these |
| 6828s | problems and i i think that type of |
| 6831s | philosophy can be applied basically |
| 6833s | anywhere |
| 6835s | if there's a |
| 6836s | uh a system like this and |
| 6839s | i think it works really well in the um |
| 6846s | like with skills as well like say you |
| 6848s | were gonna be like okay i'm only gonna |
| 6849s | use skills with a fire tag |
| 6852s | and |
| 6853s | um |
| 6854s | the movement skill you normally use |
| 6856s | doesn't have a fire tag so you have to |
| 6858s | like find a creative way to still move |
| 6859s | quickly across the map maybe that's like |
| 6862s | um |
| 6863s | using to send in |
| 6865s | uh descend nodes in uh smite and so |
| 6869s | using smite is like a teleport instead |
| 6871s | of its normal abilities |
| 6876s | these look exactly the same just more |
| 6877s | damage more health |
| 6880s | oh i'm staring at that for so long sorry |
| 6885s | so i i don't this is this is the talking |
| 6888s | about the fire tags on every single |
| 6889s | skill |
| 6891s | i |
| 6895s | i i think that if every skill has every |
| 6897s | conversion |
| 6899s | those restrictions are less |
| 6903s | like there's there's less restrictions |
| 6904s | and you end up with staple skills more |
| 6906s | frequently so you end up with situations |
| 6908s | where it's just like well every bill is |
| 6910s | going to use this and there are staple |
| 6911s | skills that work really well and and i |
| 6914s | think that |
| 6915s | is |
| 6916s | you know i'm not a huge fan of the fact |
| 6917s | there's so many stable skills in a few |
| 6919s | classes i think rogue's probably the |
| 6920s | worst for it but partially that has to |
| 6922s | do with the the volume of skills rogue |
| 6924s | has i think as well |
| 6927s | um and that's something that we'll see |
| 6929s | change over time as we get more mastery |
| 6931s | classes as we get more base classes as |
| 6933s | we just add more skills to the classes |
| 6934s | that exist as we add more items you know |
| 6937s | all those things change |
| 6938s | um |
| 6942s | and then on top of that why do some |
| 6943s | skills not have certain uh tags it's |
| 6945s | just the skill identity um |
| 6950s | and somebody was talking about a little |
| 6951s | bit earlier how we have like fireball |
| 6953s | has you can add lightning damage to it |
| 6955s | but you can't add cold damage to it |
| 6959s | um i think that's because like the skill |
| 6962s | identity of fireball |
| 6965s | is such that |
| 6968s | it makes a lot more sense to convert it |
| 6969s | to lighting or add lightning to it and |
| 6971s | have this plasma ball thing but as soon |
| 6973s | as you have but trying to make it cold |
| 6975s | it completely changes the identity of |
| 6978s | the skill |
| 6980s | um |
| 6981s | and i know i know forge guard |
| 6983s | thematically fires very heavy presence |
| 6986s | and sometimes we add |
| 6988s | extra conversions or |
| 6990s | tag editions through items as well |
| 6994s | and sometimes the reason we do that is |
| 6995s | to make it mutually exclusive with other |
| 6998s | things that could make them too |
| 7001s | strong it's a game it's another |
| 7003s | restriction |
| 7004s | because it's suddenly like okay well |
| 7005s | you're going to make a let's say rive |
| 7007s | had a fire sword that gave rive |
| 7010s | uh or or um it is right say this is a |
| 7014s | sword that gave rival fire mode um but |
| 7016s | all of a sudden you can't use this other |
| 7018s | sword that like double drives damage |
| 7020s | um i know it's kind of a weird example |
| 7025s | but then suddenly you have this |
| 7026s | restriction um okay i'm gonna make a |
| 7028s | fire arrive build i have this |
| 7029s | restriction where i can't use any other |
| 7031s | weapon it happens this one weapon so |
| 7033s | it's it |
| 7035s | makes you get creative about the other |
| 7036s | things that those i think the better |
| 7038s | example is say there was um |
| 7042s | say that weapon uh |
| 7044s | gave mana back on ride views or |
| 7045s | something like that and that you sustain |
| 7046s | it so they used to find a new way to get |
| 7047s | mana back and that's a better example |
| 7052s | let's go arena key |
| 7062s | you talked about how you guys want to |
| 7064s | change how flat melee damage works to |
| 7066s | make it more |
| 7068s | uh like adaptive spell damage is that |
| 7070s | coming next patch um i don't know when |
| 7072s | that's coming um |
| 7074s | the timeline on next patch might be |
| 7075s | different than we're used to as well |
| 7077s | um |
| 7080s | i i think that |
| 7082s | there's a |
| 7082s | [Music] |
| 7084s | i don't know when that's going we don't |
| 7086s | have that in a testing state yet we |
| 7088s | don't we don't have a version of that |
| 7090s | that we're like working on or anything |
| 7091s | like that it's um |
| 7094s | it's mostly theoretical at this point |
| 7096s | but uh i think there's a very good |
| 7097s | chance it'll happen |
| 7099s | and |
| 7102s | yeah it'll just be um |
| 7105s | it'll probably be worded as and spell |
| 7107s | damage with the same treatment |
| 7109s | uh it'll just be like plus 10 melee |
| 7111s | damage |
| 7113s | um it won't even say adaptive it won't |
| 7115s | even say |
| 7117s | uh |
| 7118s | you know fire anything like that and |
| 7120s | then like we still could put |
| 7121s | fire damage fire melee damage in there |
| 7123s | we still can do that but um a lot of |
| 7125s | implicits will will switch that's the |
| 7127s | main main place we'll switch it'll do |
| 7128s | like plus 10 bow damage instead of plus |
| 7131s | 10 physical bow damage |
| 7133s | just take the word physical out of there |
| 7143s | all right crimson blade let's see what |
| 7145s | you got |
| 7148s | decoy battle |
| 7151s | oh gosh |
| 7155s | oh my goodness |
| 7160s | the damage when she jumps on me |
| 7183s | i'm finding this difficult to like hit |
| 7186s | her okay here we go |
| 7190s | yeah your decoy works too woo-hoo |
| 7195s | little animation canceling there |
| 7197s | oh yeah get out of there |
| 7212s | um |
| 7217s | i don't think we got that in so i'm not |
| 7218s | going to mention nevermind |
| 7222s | oh wow |
| 7234s | oh my goodness me |
| 7243s | not happening |
| 7252s | right on time look at that |
| 7257s | oh look at that new ring |
| 7260s | of course that dropped |
| 7262s | uh |
| 7266s | do you think different damage elements |
| 7267s | are distinct enough currently |
| 7270s | uh yeah i think so |
| 7272s | i mean things like that can always be |
| 7274s | better so like |
| 7275s | um |
| 7277s | you know there's like bleed and ignite |
| 7279s | are really similar and they're tied to |
| 7281s | two very common damage types |
| 7283s | you know maybe that having something |
| 7285s | more distinct there would be really nice |
| 7287s | there's some stuff with like spreading |
| 7288s | flames that's really nice um |
| 7293s | and and armor shirt has more impact on |
| 7295s | physical than |
| 7297s | fire shred |
| 7299s | armor shred has more impact on physical |
| 7300s | than fire damage does that than it does |
| 7302s | on fire damage |
| 7318s | cool stuff |
| 7322s | grass is a pretty tough fight i think |
| 7324s | that has a lot to do with the quality of |
| 7326s | my character and play style and play |
| 7328s | ability than uh |
| 7330s | how difficult the fight actually is |
| 7337s | i'll take the uh |
| 7340s | the heat for that being what looked like |
| 7342s | a difficult play i made it look hard |
| 7344s | don't worry |
| 7347s | okay |
| 7349s | well that brings us to the end of our |
| 7351s | stream |
| 7353s | i had a lot of fun |
| 7355s | i hope all of you did too |
| 7368s | let's |
| 7369s | go |
| 7372s | oh they're doing a podcast let's go see |
| 7374s | what they're up to |
| 7382s | well uh that'll do it up for me today |
| 7385s | uh i'm supposed to do this right |
| 7388s | that's it we're done |
| 7390s | i'll see you next week i'll be here same |
| 7392s | time same place hope you all are too |
| 7395s | uh i look forward to seeing you if you |
| 7397s | have any more questions please head on |
| 7398s | over to our uh discord we've got a nasa |
| 7401s | devs channel i'm always there answering |
| 7402s | questions happy to answer the more of |
| 7403s | them there um |
| 7405s | uh forums great place to post questions |
| 7408s | lots of people post uh helpful stuff |
| 7409s | there if you want discussions on things |
| 7411s | we do have a |
| 7413s | um |
| 7414s | build an item build a unique item going |
| 7416s | on right now as well if you haven't |
| 7417s | voted on that go over there's any more |
| 7419s | votes coming up to get that community |
| 7420s | made unique item awesome i really hope |
| 7423s | that we get something wacky and it looks |
| 7425s | like we are so yes that's great |
| 7428s | uh |
| 7429s | have a good day everyone see you later |