[2022] Developer Stream 10.21.22 | Last Epoch | Last Epoch Dev Tracker

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5s	oh and everything's muted isn't it there
7s	we go
12s	hello I'm here I made it yes all right
18s	welcome back everyone oh let's uh let's
21s	turn there chat off here
25s	okay so I tossed this together and and
29s	this is how uh this is how behind we are
31s	we have no Idols at all yeah
37s	um
38s	see that's probably what worked very
40s	well but you know we'll have some fun
41s	play around with it we're just gonna
42s	start off with some early models and see
44s	what I can do I have literally no idea
46s	if this will work whatsoever I think I
48s	still have about 20 unassigned passives
51s	and we just completed a quest somehow
53s	sounds good
55s	[Laughter]
58s	all right
60s	let's let's see what happens here
63s	um so yeah if this is your first time
65s	here welcome welcome uh the last Epoch
67s	devstream I will be answering questions
69s	from the community
71s	and playing the game
77s	uh yeah so if you have any questions
79s	we're just we're just gonna try a basic
81s	one first and see what happens
82s	I think it should be fine and we'll jump
85s	ahead I'm just gonna make sure I'm not
86s	let's let's find how terrible this build
89s	is
91s	um because it really shouldn't work well
92s	so I probably won't
95s	see so this should be easy
99s	maybe this is appropriate content
105s	oh gosh okay
108s	well we may need to assign some more
110s	passives
112s	here
115s	uh yes if you have any questions please
117s	feel free to ask tag last Epoch game in
120s	the question and I'll do my best to
121s	answer I'm so glad you went here from
122s	dank Labs hi Mike with all the new armor
125s	models coming in point nine well they
126s	have new implicits or will they be
128s	replacing existing models
130s	um little column a little column B I'd
132s	say for the most part
134s	um
136s	that's it for the most part there's
137s	gonna be a lot of Replacements
139s	um some new ones as well and uh yeah
147s	I don't even have all the points to sign
150s	in Fireball
153s	oh we rushed this bad boy out the door
155s	did we yes we did
158s	I'm like get the Mana reduction done and
161s	then like an idiot I've got
163s	matter reduction on Center soccer so I
165s	guess I could uh
167s	I could I could take some Mana cost
169s	stuff on Fireball and bump it up a bunch
178s	nothing but the best eh yeah a little
181s	call my little con B we're gonna have
182s	some some new armors come in a lot of a
185s	lot of the armors we have right now are
188s	um
189s	like color palette swaps on some
192s	existing ones and we want to we want to
194s	get away from that as much as possible
195s	uh but at the same time we want to have
197s	as many different armor types as
199s	possible so
200s	um not to ignore the work we've done is
204s	important too
206s	um there's a lot of lightning Reds
209s	and uh not a lot of physical res
213s	let's try and use Idols to fix a lot of
216s	a lot of those mistakes there's a few
218s	Idols I really want
219s	uh here I started there we go
234s	oh just nice uh
238s	there's no game audio coming through is
240s	there
244s	that's better
247s	nailed it
249s	oh today today was uh today was a tricky
252s	one
255s	next question I toss the steely mean
257s	Rhymer ask yourself no actually this is
258s	this is me I was scrambling uh and
262s	you'll see why it was me because it's
264s	terrible
265s	um scrambling for the build right for
268s	the streaming live
270s	um I still had the editor open actually
272s	while the stream was live in the
273s	background for the first few minutes of
275s	stream
280s	we're gonna put points in uh Fireball
282s	tree I think here because right now it's
284s	doing very little
290s	good crit though which is nice
297s	we're not focusing on Dots here we're
299s	trying to go cred
301s	um
303s	I have 11 unspent past the points so
305s	let's let's finish off some passives
306s	here
309s	uh do you like the man I I want I was
312s	planning on getting a bunch of those
313s	Idols that are like stuff if you have
314s	over 300 Mana so we've got that
317s	oh we've got a couple here uh dahariel
321s	and master sword 1291 dahariel
325s	wow that 18 months and master sword 1291
328s	also 18 months this is nuts
330s	thanks guys thanks for hanging out
332s	thanks for sticking around glad to have
333s	you with us
335s	foreign
337s	and
341s	haripaco has subbed first time thank you
344s	very much
346s	do a question here I have a question I
347s	am playing on the steam deck ooh Brave
351s	um but it plays for a while and then
353s	crashes is something you're working on
354s	not actively no
357s	um steam deck is a very interesting
359s	platform and one that we do want to get
362s	um on the books so to speak sooner than
365s	later or maybe I should say eventually
368s	um but it's not it's not in active
370s	development right now
374s	um it's it's one of those things that we
376s	are once we're able to we're gonna we'll
379s	like to work on it and it's naturally
381s	kind of works because we do have a Linux
383s	environment and we do have partial
385s	controller support so it just sort of
387s	happens to kind of work but it's not um
390s	it's not a primary focus for so now
391s	we're considering that an unsupported
393s	platform for the moment
395s	hopefully a future supported platform
400s	this is me I think about this one yeah
403s	yeah fine fair enough
405s	uh do you see Relic implicits expanding
408s	in the future seems like some
409s	interesting options for certain builds
411s	would love to see more yeah I mean
412s	there's I like I would I would suggest
414s	that we're gonna see um
417s	everything expanding in the future I
419s	think relics are uh
422s	really cool slot especially because they
424s	are class specific they're one of three
426s	class specific slots so we do put a lot
428s	of we do intentionally put a lot of cool
430s	stuff there
437s	part of our goal here is to get
440s	um
442s	we're we're gonna we're gonna try and
444s	make this a legendary woven flesh
450s	but that'll take a few because I don't
452s	think we have
453s	um I did unlock monoliths properly this
455s	time but I don't think I unlocked any uh
459s	uh whatchamacallits however the um
462s	dungeons however the the first dungeon
465s	is pretty good for that anyways
467s	per level
469s	that's a nice one I think yours is
471s	better
474s	we're basically looking for idols and an
477s	exalted chest
478s	in order to uh
482s	yeah an exalted chest
485s	and idols
499s	okay we're gonna we're gonna fix
500s	Fireball here
502s	I don't know why I didn't do that
504s	more as everyone knows the best way to
506s	do this
509s	all those Mana costs delicious manicotts
511s	we've got crit chance here chance with
513s	it's already pretty high
516s	um so I don't need crit chance
522s	oh this is actually kind of cool so
524s	it'll be more like um
526s	deal with you Fireball because it's only
527s	a single projectile there
531s	uh this is damage
534s	some damage here
536s	there we go
541s	oh that's offset
543s	see that see the see the tag for the the
546s	number ah
548s	interesting
553s	you know we've got AOE with
555s	the Frozen or maybe we just do
561s	six we have negative six from our let's
564s	see what happens does this still say
565s	zero it does say zero still
568s	big
570s	I mean that's a lot of fun already let's
572s	just let's play Let's play that for a
573s	bit see what that is
576s	nice man on the rock thank you
586s	that is nice
588s	we actually are low on some of those
590s	resistances
593s	uh I think we can bump up the difficulty
595s	a bit
597s	Let's uh
599s	we're here right now right
602s	we got a black son let's see what
604s	happens
608s	let's see what I'm just jump up this one
610s	see we just melts
612s	instantly
616s	and let's uh
618s	let's get a rule to uh recolor
621s	let's make it
625s	weird green
627s	I'm gonna do a
630s	Rarity
631s	exalted
634s	item type
636s	uh armor body armor confirm
641s	uh that condition affixes yeah this is
645s	the problem I know this should filter
646s	for it but it doesn't and it's
647s	frustrating a little bit
649s	um
655s	you know let's let's just
661s	yeah let's make it really really relax
663s	we'll go we'll go basically all the
664s	spell stuff
668s	um
669s	intelligence fatality
674s	fire
676s	s fire
678s	cold
688s	and then just
691s	crit
698s	yeah let's just
701s	as long as there's one of those things
706s	stand out a little bit
710s	okay
714s	what do you think is the biggest Gap in
717s	itemization or biggest opportunity for
719s	improving it
722s	um
726s	that's an interesting question I think
728s	that I'm gonna take it as like what's
729s	the weak point in itemization I guess
732s	the biggest chance for improving it I'd
734s	say it's likely related to uh set items
740s	right now but it would be uh I guess
743s	that's sort of the easy answer
745s	um
746s	there's also I think there's also a
751s	like a bit of a bit of a power Gap
755s	in um and I guess like late game items
760s	and I think there needs to be a little
762s	bit a little bit more power coming from
764s	Top End items
766s	uh from for damage output because right
769s	right now the biggest thing that changes
771s	in late game damage or late game
774s	itemization systems is uh is is actually
779s	defenses which is really important I
782s	think I think the defenses are actually
783s	gonna
784s	I know there's there are exceptions to
786s	this I'm sorry but I think that late
788s	game defense item itemization is
790s	actually not in a bad spot right I think
791s	it's pretty good
793s	I think there's
795s	um
796s	enough axes where it's it's interesting
798s	to do but not
800s	um
802s	like
803s	too difficult
805s	too convoluted
823s	we're doing pretty good here
825s	it's it's this does feel very similar to
827s	how I play Frozen or firewall uh back in
830s	the day in YouTube I know it's not
832s	really a build anymore but that was that
834s	was my go-to build for a long time I
836s	always start a season with it
840s	just because it was it was easy to farm
842s	like you could Farm anything in the game
843s	other than Ubers with this uh Indie too
847s	um
848s	it was a little tricky to do certain
850s	certain things but it was doable
853s	and it didn't require amazing gear
855s	either which was nice yeah
860s	it's like going home
875s	just with way more fireballs
880s	okay we got a question here uh hey Mike
883s	how do you how's your week been um
885s	pretty good actually
887s	um
889s	supposed to play gloomhaven last night
891s	but it didn't work out uh friends that
893s	were coming over had some heads of
895s	family emergencies uh which which all
897s	ended up working on the end which is
898s	great
900s	um
903s	made a nice Curry for dinner instead
905s	it's great
912s	not looking forward to next we have a
913s	dentist appointment I hate them so much
916s	so much
926s	which spoiler are you most most excited
929s	to share today ah hello Perry how are
931s	you doing
932s	um I've got uh an uh an enemy retexture
938s	I only have two I don't have a lot sorry
939s	I have an enemy retexture of a very
945s	um
946s	a very
949s	old enemy that uh shows up in a few
953s	places shows up in about three places I
955s	think that I'm sure people are like
958s	just laughing at how terrible it is
961s	um I put I put I still say I put folks
963s	on my bar here because I like thought I
964s	need it Mana wise but it looks like I
966s	don't actually need it and I'm not sure
969s	what to not only points
971s	um and I'm not sure what to put in its
974s	place actually
977s	I'm kind of I'm kind of wondering maybe
979s	snap freeze just to have an extra
981s	defensive layer or possibly Arcane
983s	ascendants to like go Super Saiyan with
985s	I will do snap freeze for now just
987s	because it does have some cool stuff in
988s	here
992s	CBR and Mana efficiency
996s	important stuff probably use it for the
999s	freeze
1000s	oh you could use it for uh for ice block
1005s	let me go into it
1008s	I'm just gonna put on there
1010s	let's see how it feels actually let's
1013s	get some more stuff with fireballs
1016s	we don't want to we don't need the crit
1019s	we don't need the extra the stun
1025s	we don't want the extra Mana class
1027s	because we don't want it to spike over
1028s	zero
1031s	I think the way that works it does push
1034s	it up
1036s	could be wrong to the points out
1039s	we weren't doing Dot stuff fire
1041s	restaurant's probably good
1045s	yeah sure let's go this way
1052s	uh yeah
1055s	it's nice yeah let's do that
1057s	yeah one more Point still how many
1059s	points do we get my goodness cast speed
1062s	always nice
1064s	we do also still have some passives too
1067s	someone someone hit me with uh tell me
1069s	which passives to take the one which
1070s	which passives did I miss for a build
1072s	like this
1074s	where's the obvious Mike what are you
1076s	doing
1082s	I'll come back to it
1085s	I think we're doing pretty good I think
1086s	we can I I want to push our defenses are
1089s	struggling I was getting hit pretty hard
1092s	um
1092s	maybe I just take pure defensive stuff
1094s	in here
1099s	the health
1102s	no
1105s	that is nice
1107s	it's just this help mode
1117s	could take that for just a word boost as
1119s	well
1120s	foreign
1126s	this is way harder than that right yeah
1129s	okay I mean I could just pump that
1136s	right I was gonna do this that's what it
1138s	was
1145s	[Music]
1163s	right yep I forgot about that one too
1165s	thank you
1169s	okay so we do do we do up to here
1172s	potion word game
1176s	no we're not doing media we're doing
1178s	we're doing Frozen or
1187s	I can just dump it into here and just
1189s	get some more
1190s	when you use our spells
1203s	it's damage I have more retention is
1205s	nice
1214s	there did it
1215s	it's happening we're moving on to a
1217s	different one because I think we're
1218s	doing okay here
1219s	between the dragon see if we can do it
1224s	I know yeah okay
1227s	new question here
1230s	uh when reworking old skills
1233s	to bring them up to current standards is
1235s	that process basically the same as
1236s	designing a new skill or is a much
1237s	simpler process
1239s	um there's a lot of similarities with
1240s	that in designing a new skill uh the
1242s	biggest difference I think is the fact
1244s	that we do have expectations
1246s	um to not ruin builds that already exist
1249s	so even if even if a skill is really old
1251s	there's sometimes
1253s	um very popular builds that the skill
1254s	fits into and
1257s	um I think there's like a general
1258s	expectation that we don't ruin the build
1261s	type thing
1263s	um and we and we don't let that stand in
1266s	the way of us making something that's
1267s	fun or making something that's new and
1269s	interesting or or like that's a good
1271s	skill like we that's that's a secondary
1274s	consideration I think but it is still
1276s	something that we
1278s	um
1279s	so funny when they do that uh it it is
1283s	still something that's that we need to
1285s	be aware of and be cautious of
1288s	um
1289s	and then at the same time there's also
1291s	we'll we'll look at it and say okay we
1293s	already have this functionality with it
1296s	um so is is there things are things we
1298s	want to keep things we like
1300s	um and that speeds stuff up as well
1301s	because we won't need to do as much work
1304s	so there's there's already like
1305s	functionality in there
1307s	um
1308s	it also depends how old it is so if it's
1310s	like really old well uh we'll we'll
1314s	sometimes be a little bit more
1316s	aggressive with the old scalpel
1320s	um
1323s	but yeah it's uh it's pretty similar if
1326s	if they're if they're really really old
1328s	skills so like for example saber tooth
1330s	uh we haven't started that rework yet
1331s	but once we do
1333s	um
1334s	I I think that'll be pretty similar to
1336s	just being like
1338s	so put throwing all the dumpster and
1339s	start over type thing
1341s	um
1342s	because there's not a ton
1345s	we really like about that skill there's
1347s	there's a few little things for sure so
1348s	it's not like a complete just start over
1351s	um
1361s	okay damage is not fantastic single
1363s	Target should we change Fireball to be
1366s	like shoot in a line and have that just
1367s	be single Target
1369s	I don't like the uh
1372s	the crazy
1375s	crazy mode for it
1392s	um
1392s	[Music]
1399s	we're gonna call this this uh build
1401s	version Alpha and I'll uh I'll be
1405s	updating it for for next week I think
1407s	because it's it's very rough around the
1410s	edges
1412s	this was this was I started making this
1413s	about an hour ago
1422s	um
1425s	it's actually pretty interesting
1432s	it's a lot of Caspian resistances though
1435s	another question I bought the game last
1437s	week cool and had a look at your
1439s	Kickstarter out of curiosity I saw
1440s	something called the passive grid there
1443s	which looked wild is that still coming
1445s	or is that idea discarded
1447s	that okay so that's that's a throwback I
1449s	haven't I haven't talked about this in a
1450s	long time I'm gonna I'm gonna grab a
1453s	picture of this because that's actually
1454s	really interesting
1456s	um
1459s	let's go get an image
1462s	this the the passive grid um is is gone
1465s	it is not being replaced it's not coming
1467s	back or it has been replaced it's not
1469s	coming back
1470s	um that was the first version of our
1474s	passive
1476s	um
1480s	passive tree so that was the that turned
1482s	into this
1484s	and you actually see lot of similarities
1486s	there still so um if you'll notice
1489s	there's like your base class and you've
1491s	got three specializations to to go down
1493s	to focus on
1495s	um that each have specific passive
1497s	bonuses related to that specialization
1499s	and then specific uh nodes that go with
1502s	it in certain certain some of them have
1503s	connections like that individual
1505s	connections
1508s	um and so like just looking at that
1510s	basic
1513s	[Music]
1516s	a new source
1519s	passive grid
1523s	browse
1527s	but I just saved it there
1532s	no I promise you I just saved it there
1538s	yeah see I told you I just saved it
1540s	there
1546s	okay
1549s	Okay cool so now we have uh this this is
1553s	the this is the original passive grid
1557s	um and this is this is a really cool
1559s	oh I can't just send me the image too
1561s	thank you very much bud
1564s	um
1565s	just get a big version so I can see it
1566s	myself too
1569s	there we go so um so you'll notice
1571s	there's still I'm trying to draw on
1572s	these there's these four axes going out
1576s	I can't actually see this on my screen
1577s	so I'm sorry if the drawings are a
1579s	little bit off or if you can't see my
1580s	mouse at all
1581s	um
1583s	and and what you would do is you would
1584s	put points into one of the four squares
1587s	in the middle
1588s	and it would extend out along the axis
1591s	line
1592s	and any space that was covered in the
1595s	resulting
1596s	area that connected between the four
1598s	different axis line edges were nodes
1600s	that were available it's basically
1602s	cooling of this line here that's moving
1603s	up as you put points in
1605s	um and you could put points into
1606s	anything that was touching the
1608s	highlighted area and certain certain
1611s	nodes required other nodes to go into
1614s	um so it's like you can the similarities
1615s	are are very heavy here
1618s	um and we had the the big thing that
1620s	made this work was we ended up having to
1622s	have two types of points as you can see
1624s	the top there's access points and node
1626s	points and so the access points lets you
1629s	travel along the axes and the node
1630s	points that you put them into the actual
1632s	nodes
1633s	and then you also get um bonuses based
1636s	on the different uh quantity into each
1639s	axis you have that lets you then
1641s	specialize into a specific type so
1644s	there's if you put points specifically
1646s	into like the blue and the purple one
1647s	you'd be going into the scholar subtype
1650s	for mage or if you put points into the
1652s	red and the green one you'd be putting
1654s	you'd be going into the battle mage
1656s	subtype which as we now know have
1658s	evolved into masteries of sorceress
1660s	building Rune master
1662s	um
1663s	and yeah so this was this is our
1665s	original passive system idea
1668s	um and I think there's a lot of really
1669s	good bones here and there's a lot of
1671s	really interesting stuff but it has some
1672s	really inherent problems that we just
1674s	couldn't break through and we we
1676s	scrapped the idea
1678s	um I'd really like to see something like
1680s	this show back up as a like
1684s	um
1685s	I like like a separate mechanic specific
1688s	like like a classless mechanic that
1690s	interacts with something in the game
1692s	World
1693s	um and that's super vague but like
1695s	um like like a dungeon reward or uh like
1699s	another another maybe another end game
1701s	system as a whole I I don't know
1704s	um but I'd love to see something that
1705s	kind of uses borrow some ideas here uh
1708s	to to touch and touch on those things
1713s	it was
1715s	it was really
1718s	too complicated it was it was over
1720s	complicated
1722s	um
1723s	and
1726s	it just didn't just didn't quite fit
1730s	so yeah that's what that is it's gone
1733s	it's not coming back
1736s	it was interesting though
1740s	that was that was a system that I
1742s	championed a lot in the early days
1746s	um and was I'll admit it was that was
1748s	tough to see go for me especially
1752s	um I I had a tough time with that like
1754s	it's it wasn't like a uh
1757s	like fight or anything like that about
1759s	it but like it was just like I knew it
1761s	had to go
1763s	um It's just tough to see something that
1765s	you you work on a lot and are really
1766s	involved in the creation originally and
1768s	it's just to see it disappear so that
1770s	was that was tough but it was definitely
1773s	an improvement like we we it was the
1775s	right decision
1777s	um at the time I knew it was the right
1778s	decision I do not regret changing it at
1781s	all
1788s	we look so a little bit of damage output
1790s	here you know it's getting a little
1790s	better
1791s	not terrible
1796s	not bad you guys is better
1801s	we really need Idols I'm not saying like
1804s	any Idols drop I think I may have like
1806s	hidden Idols by mistake
1814s	let's see if I just drop an aisle on the
1815s	ground what happens
1817s	yep whoops
1833s	it's just oh my God
1838s	yeah I put that High doll items when I
1840s	was when I was making the uh
1843s	uh
1847s	I'm an idiot
1851s	when I when I make this I spew a lot of
1855s	items onto the ground and then pick them
1856s	up pretty quick and uh I turned off
1858s	Idols I guess they're by mistake whoops
1862s	oh well okay let's just let's just grab
1864s	some Idols so we've got something
1866s	instead of nothing
1868s	because right now
1870s	literally nothing
1873s	other than
1877s	basics
1879s	oh here's here we go
1881s	because here's our IL Repository
1884s	oh
1886s	look at that cold damage double pure
1889s	300.
1891s	still fire damage that's nice
1895s	yeah there we go
1901s	nice one too actually not gonna use it
1915s	still cool damage that's nice
1919s	that's a nice item over there
1922s	really cold it's just
1926s	snag that one there
1930s	um
1935s	some nice ones
1942s	help sure sounds good
1947s	Health sure sounds good
1950s	that's where we're at right now
1956s	yeah oh we have so much Fire Res
1959s	we're low on coal
1970s	Point res yes please
1978s	come on Mike find some faster health
1980s	love it
1981s	and man on cold damage cool
1984s	better than nothing
1988s	it's a low bar
1992s	okay
1993s	can we do
1995s	can we do this one
2003s	all right cool
2005s	back to questions yeah so if you're just
2006s	joining us
2008s	um we're slapping together a build as we
2010s	go kind of kind of kind of bad at it but
2013s	we're working our way through
2017s	um if you have any questions please feel
2018s	free to ask them about the game uh put
2020s	out last debug game in the question and
2022s	I will see it better I am one of the
2024s	senior developers on this game
2030s	oh yeah okay so we're we're squishy
2034s	we're very squishy
2036s	we are right right now we're cosplaying
2038s	uh D2 Frozen orb Fireball sword
2047s	with heat seeking
2050s	pentables
2055s	both piercing and five
2072s	all right this is getting better I'm I'm
2074s	starting to feel this I'm starting to
2075s	feel it
2079s	it's almost died
2086s	we're doing this button there we go
2089s	chugging potions
2104s	oh get out of that
2117s	yeah our damage our damage is definitely
2119s	concentrated on Frozen orb uh that's
2121s	that's the our primary damage output I
2123s	think
2125s	all right can you spoil some general
2127s	idea how Rune master and warlock will
2129s	play like
2131s	um not really they're still like we're
2133s	still very early in the development of
2134s	both those classes
2136s	um we've actually been doing a lot of
2139s	uh we we uh a few weeks ago we did a
2143s	whole huge thing on ring Master we
2146s	Burns it to the ground and start from
2147s	scratch
2148s	um looks amazing now I know it's like
2150s	terrible to like just bait you with that
2152s	uh I'm sorry warlock we've we've been
2156s	doing warlock this week actually
2158s	um
2159s	design we're still in the design phase
2161s	for it
2162s	um
2166s	I
2170s	uh a lot of the all of the literature
2173s	that's been released on them
2175s	is uh obsolete now
2180s	and
2183s	um so even even the descriptions you see
2185s	in like is there even a description it's
2187s	not in the description when you when you
2188s	go to your master request there's a
2189s	description and you see a skill there
2192s	um
2193s	none of that is staying all of that's
2196s	going
2199s	um the description on the website is
2201s	Gonna Change like everything's
2203s	everything's going on both of them
2218s	um but like okay so like General stuff I
2220s	guess seems like they're both like one
2223s	of them's a mage master class one of
2224s	them's an acolyte Mastery class they'll
2227s	both play like spellcasters
2231s	because they're both spellcasters
2240s	and they have like support from the
2243s	other masteries that they're that
2245s	they're nearby
2246s	um
2250s	let's talk about that much I'm sorry I'm
2251s	trying to I'm trying to think like what
2253s	can I say it's not a lot that I'm really
2255s	allowed to say right now sorry
2257s	um when we get closer to having they're
2259s	not coming out until 1.0 so like there's
2261s	a long way off on them
2263s	um
2264s	and uh once you get closer to having
2267s	those we'll we'll have more info
2269s	available
2270s	but right right now they're very much uh
2272s	concepting stage
2276s	all right next question about combat
2279s	upgrades coming next patch yeah well
2281s	things like logon's hitbox for example
2283s	the Engine strikes working janky and
2284s	Emperor of corpses being able to be
2286s	pushed around too much get fixed those
2288s	those are definitely unrelated to the
2290s	combat updates that we're doing
2291s	um those are just bugs
2293s	um and the the things that we'd like to
2297s	to improve and work on all those sorts
2299s	of stuff but it's um very much unrelated
2301s	I don't think either of those things are
2303s	fixed right now they might be
2306s	um
2307s	but they are on the list
2312s	look at that exalted chest
2324s	just started playing every game of the
2326s	game when multiplayer hits I'm gonna go
2327s	ham with friends cool
2332s	um
2346s	it's a very cool one
2348s	uh will you make the bow available to
2350s	other classes I love the idea of a bow
2351s	acolyte running with Arch with other
2353s	with archer skeletons
2356s	maybe
2357s	um one of the primary pillars of design
2360s	we have for the game is class identity
2363s	um so that that is kind of a broad term
2366s	for saying if you can make something
2368s	unique about a class and have it feel
2370s	really cool and interesting uh do it and
2374s	um so right now one of the things that's
2375s	unique about a marksman is that it uses
2378s	a bow
2379s	um and that's that's kind of the Crux of
2382s	that mastery's identity right now
2385s	um and it's not only that there's a lot
2387s	of other things too for sure but that's
2388s	that's a big big big part of it so
2392s	um
2394s	what's what's the like
2396s	you know
2397s	what's the chances of us adding bows to
2399s	other classes it's possible there's a
2401s	few
2402s	um
2403s	there's a few really good
2405s	uh opportunities for it and things that
2407s	we've definitely discussed and looked at
2409s	there's nothing that's planned yet
2413s	um
2413s	that doesn't mean it's never going to
2415s	happen that doesn't mean it's off table
2415s	or anything like that but it's just it's
2417s	it's not uh
2420s	we're not like okay well this skill is
2421s	gonna be a better skill uh we'd also
2423s	would probably make them hybrid skills
2424s	so we need another skill that's a melee
2426s	ability to have via a
2429s	um
2430s	a meleebo skill to use
2433s	um or or like make a new skill so
2435s	there's uh there's only one melee
2437s	ability on acolyte right now at all and
2440s	it is Harvest
2445s	uh
2446s	reap technically but you know we're
2448s	talking about skeleton archers we're
2450s	probably talking about Necromancer
2452s	um and reef doesn't really count
2453s	anything and and Rebo reap doesn't make
2456s	any sense also bow Harvest is is really
2459s	weird so like I that's that's really
2462s	tricky so there's there's not a lot of
2463s	space to put it on acolyte right now
2465s	there'd have to be a new skill that
2468s	would come along at the same time
2470s	maybe they wouldn't have to be maybe it
2472s	could be a bow only skill
2474s	um but a boat only skill on a class that
2477s	has almost zero bow support that's
2480s	tricky
2481s	um so then what's the other options the
2482s	other options are
2485s	um abilities that and something we don't
2488s	have right now in the game may never
2490s	have but it's it's technically possible
2492s	we could do in a weird way
2495s	um none of these are planned just saying
2498s	it's it's not out of the question
2500s	because I know sometimes I say those
2501s	people like oh my God it's coming
2502s	slowly roll
2504s	um the you could have a specializable
2507s	skill granted by an item so you could
2510s	maybe there's like a unique bow and it
2511s	grants a specializable skill
2515s	whole bunch of stuff we'd have to design
2517s	and function workout functionality wise
2519s	before that could even be tried but
2520s	that's kind of the other option to put a
2523s	bow ability on any class is you see you
2527s	make it so that the
2528s	um the item grants the ability
2533s	um so yeah there's this is something
2535s	we've looked at for sure and there's
2536s	something we've dug into a little bit if
2538s	I was going to pick another
2541s	um another class to put bow
2544s	compatibility on it would be um the
2547s	first choice for me and I think for a
2549s	lot of people would be prime list
2551s	um because it already has an ability
2552s	that would work really well as a
2554s	bowability and serpent strike
2557s	um so you could you could have that
2558s	melee bow hybrid
2561s	um and I I think that would work really
2563s	well so I I'd say that's likely to to be
2567s	uh what would happen first if if there
2570s	was gonna be uh
2572s	um
2574s	another class that we get it I think I
2576s	think you'd be looking there I think
2578s	also
2579s	um
2579s	Sentinel has some good options
2583s	um
2584s	and even even spellblade has a couple
2586s	possibilities so there's like there's
2589s	there's easily everyone other than
2591s	acolyte has some good options for
2592s	abilities that could be converted
2595s	um
2596s	and
2598s	yeah so it's
2600s	you know some something weird's going on
2604s	not letting me go into it
2606s	oh I don't have it unlocked
2612s	hey guys how's it going
2615s	apparently I know what I'm doing
2622s	apparently I know what I'm doing
2627s	go
2630s	okay idols
2635s	actually I promise Mage uh all have no
2638s	throwing skills
2640s	yes that's true
2643s	um will there will that always be the
2645s	case can I throw a bow as a lich someday
2647s	uh throw a bone as a list somehow yeah
2649s	yeah so this is um it's interesting
2652s	these questions are asked back to back
2653s	because
2654s	half of what I said just said let's just
2656s	reapply it here with throwing you know
2658s	um I'd I'd say there's
2661s	it's a similar situation
2664s	um
2665s	I
2667s	think it's not likely that we'll be
2669s	seeing a big influx in throwing
2671s	abilities on those other classes and a
2673s	lot of this also has to do with support
2675s	in the um in the passive tree right like
2678s	like where's room in here to put
2681s	throwing support right
2685s	um
2687s	and don't say root master because we're
2688s	not doing a throwing build on Roadmaster
2693s	um but but yeah like my um I guess my
2696s	point is that having them having having
2698s	everyone be able to do everything does
2701s	take away from uh that that class
2705s	identity and and those the unique what
2707s	makes each class unique as far as
2709s	um play style and item compatibility and
2713s	um I I think one of the big
2716s	uh upsides to
2719s	uh to having that like uniqueness across
2722s	the classes is you're not looking for
2723s	the same items
2725s	um all the time you're you're looking
2726s	for different items most the time and
2728s	like you get
2730s	I guess like a good opposite example of
2732s	this is and I always whenever I use
2734s	Diablo 2 is a bad example I always feel
2736s	terrible with myself because I'm like uh
2738s	I love that game but yeah so there's
2739s	there are things that it doesn't do
2741s	amazing for example Shaco is way too
2744s	ubiquitous that's I think shaco's not a
2747s	good item for the game's itemization
2749s	help because you can pretty well
2753s	like
2754s	almost every and there's a few
2756s	exceptions to this but like almost every
2758s	item when you pick up a helmet you're
2759s	just like is it better than Shaco
2761s	that's that's the that's the line and
2764s	almost always the answer is just no
2767s	um or sometimes
2771s	there's and there's like a few classes
2772s	that really need specific items and
2773s	everything like that but like
2776s	you can pretty well always slap a Shaker
2777s	on something that's good right really
2780s	really good
2782s	um
2784s	and and having
2786s	having more specialized things helps
2789s	avoid that a little bit
2796s	so having throwing be more of a sentinel
2800s	Rogue type ability is likely going to
2804s	stay primarily there
2806s	um like again you could have an item
2808s	that gives the grants a throwing ability
2810s	that anyone can use all of a sudden and
2811s	there's there's interesting things you
2812s	can do with that too but it's yeah
2816s	it's possible but not likely soon there
2818s	are no throwing abilities for classes
2822s	for those three classes you listed in
2824s	the works
2828s	yeah that's true there's no throwing
2830s	ability utility glasses in the works
2836s	uh reworked passive grid style system uh
2839s	to be used for in-game progression oh
2841s	I'm just like not even looking at the
2842s	screen like I'm so proud of those
2845s	um a reworked passive grid style system
2847s	to be used for in-game progression bring
2848s	it back maybe
2850s	uh what was the inspiration for the void
2853s	theme
2854s	um I think there's a lot of heavy
2855s	inspiration for the void theme in
2860s	um
2863s	I was trying to say it fast enough to
2865s	find it and I never know where it is to
2867s	look for it
2869s	um Chrono Trigger
2876s	I don't know where it is on the map
2879s	somewhere in here
2886s	uh someone here there's something that
2888s	looks a lot like lavas it was fully
2891s	unintentional as far as I'm aware and
2894s	the person who drew it was just like
2895s	drawing cool stuff to stick in the void
2897s	map and we're like that looks like Lavos
2900s	they're like ooh like okay
2905s	someone knows where it is let me know
2911s	but I think I think Chrono sugar has a
2913s	big impact on
2915s	um
2916s	on this game in general as far as just
2918s	it's something that a lot of us played a
2920s	lot of
2921s	um and so you you just get a lot of
2923s	those
2925s	um things creeping in
2927s	just naturally
2929s	there's a highlighted message here
2933s	oh right here uh hello I love your game
2936s	thank you I'm hyped for the next patch
2938s	me too so I studied the past patch
2944s	uh I found the Patch always being alive
2947s	and ready in Fridays the post of them
2949s	are on Thursdays 11 A.M to 2 p.m
2951s	approximately the next Thursday October
2954s	27th we received advice and post no uh
2958s	there will not be a
2961s	um patch announcement video
2964s	um
2966s	on Thursday October 27th that will not
2968s	happen sorry
2976s	a little early
2983s	Frozen orb just does just melt stuff I
2985s	love it
2986s	I love it
2988s	oh get me across the bridge come on
2997s	I am very squishy I probably should just
2999s	use my defensive abilities instead of
3001s	not
3004s	that's probably better
3016s	but
3035s	uh Mike please never change you're too
3037s	awesome the way you are thank you
3043s	oh llama thank you I could tell those
3047s	like sarcastic or not but yes uh thank
3049s	you
3058s	but I want to change sometimes only for
3060s	the better though I promise okay
3071s	I do I do love Fireball there's just
3075s	something about it
3079s	this this build is because I uh didn't
3082s	get a chance to play
3083s	any any d2r this this league
3088s	I want you so bad the new um
3092s	all the new Thunder charms and
3093s	everything oh looks so good
3097s	oh two Opie Rainbow Witch that's cool
3099s	We're Not Gonna use it but it's cool
3102s	I love
3103s	this animation I know some people think
3105s	it's way too bright uh if it is sorry
3107s	are you playing a dark room with a high
3109s	monitor brightness it's a little bright
3112s	um I love it
3113s	I love it
3115s	oh
3124s	apparently
3126s	I'm a little squishy
3131s	what are we gonna do about that huh
3134s	should we take ice block
3143s	so we do
3147s	I don't think it is I think I think we
3149s	should I think we're like need to just
3150s	take more defensive passives
3153s	um
3158s	should I just like pull out of this
3160s	because I'm not using it much
3179s	let's do it why not
3185s	why not I think the Frozen or VFX
3189s	this one that's what gfx means uh could
3191s	use some more oomph or shards even if
3194s	they do nothing uh okay so we can't do
3198s	um like like shirts you know that do
3201s	nothing uh it is is is tricky at best
3207s	um and I will say that we did have some
3211s	uh there were some technical limitation
3213s	reasons for the quantity of shards that
3215s	come out of it
3217s	um also just like it it is a bit of an
3219s	homage to
3221s	the two frozen orb
3222s	um well volcanic orb is but the Frozen
3224s	orb conversion I guess uh and
3230s	uh it's
3232s	like that one doesn't actually have that
3233s	many surprisingly
3236s	oh come on
3238s	yeah
3242s	that's right just press all the buttons
3243s	on your keyboard and you're good
3252s	maybe we're just running in too far
3256s	that could be it
3259s	got four just three let's um let's try
3262s	and use this
3266s	and let's uh
3276s	this gets pretty big doesn't it yeah
3280s	there we go
3292s	let's crank the frustration up to
3294s	Infinity
3296s	and more cast meaning that's all we need
3301s	yeah we don't want any of this stuff
3308s	boom all right let's let's let's let's
3310s	try and work that into our rotation a
3312s	bit
3317s	have a fresh new skill tree next patch I
3320s	don't think next patch no
3323s	um
3323s	I think it's got some it's had some
3325s	updates and changes
3327s	um I think but not fresh new I want to
3331s	say fresh new because that's implying
3333s	that there's more work I think than
3335s	we're planning
3337s	one of the big things we are looking to
3339s	do with skill trees just in general
3341s	um what part of modernizing a skill tree
3343s	is
3344s	um known one of our one of our things
3346s	that we started doing with skill trees
3349s	at a certain point was oh that's me
3350s	dying
3353s	um
3356s	my phone just picked up oh that's me
3359s	dying and was like are you okay
3363s	um
3364s	come on leave me alone
3373s	part of our modern definition for skill
3376s	trees in their uh in their creation is
3381s	uh no node should have more than five
3384s	points that goes into it
3386s	uh you have 20 points in the tree five
3388s	is a pretty substantial chunk of that
3390s	eight almost half
3393s	um
3395s	seven down here as well so like we we've
3398s	really tried to reduce the number of
3400s	total points that go into a tree pretty
3401s	heavily
3402s	um since making some trees like
3403s	volcanicorps so yeah I think there is
3406s	um
3408s	reason to
3411s	assume certain things in here will get
3412s	changed and updated and things like that
3414s	but full rework
3417s	not anytime soon I don't think
3422s	uh did we get a war path like already I
3424s	just saw Judd said something on in
3426s	Reddit
3429s	uh I don't think there's any major war
3431s	Pathways or changes
3441s	oh cool I just got linked another
3445s	here let's do this one now I just I just
3446s	got sent another
3449s	video that I'm allowed to share
3453s	I'll do it right now
3464s	come on
3482s	no idea how this is gonna show up
3488s	oh no
3496s	dang it
3498s	sorry
3510s	I'm good at other things I swear
3512s	all right here we go
3516s	foreign
3527s	firewall change basically
3539s	so yeah it's
3541s	that's that's that's the better version
3543s	of what I'm playing right now
3544s	you shoot in the background
3547s	seen at the same time
3554s	kinda
3557s	uh the first one there we go
3560s	thanks again
3561s	I haven't seen anything about uh
3564s	uh like warpath's not getting massive
3567s	changes I don't think
3569s	I don't know what you were talking about
3570s	Judd on Reddit
3571s	let me know
3574s	our cycle is going to be three months or
3575s	more possibly
3578s	I I don't know what the exact timing's
3580s	gonna be on them yet
3582s	um
3584s	I think having a consistent
3586s	uh schedule that fits nicely as
3590s	something divisible by that that goes
3593s	nicely into 12 is a very smart decision
3598s	um
3601s	it's uh it's a demanding it's a it's a
3604s	demanding Cadence
3606s	for sure
3608s	um
3609s	but if we can make it work
3612s	be great
3614s	and we're gonna do and just do a little
3617s	bit of uh
3618s	the real
3621s	um
3624s	yeah I think I think there's
3627s	we're not 100 set on things like that
3629s	and and it'll take us a little while to
3630s	get on our feet under us
3633s	um
3636s	where we're we're not necessarily doing
3641s	uh she's using snap reads more that's
3643s	delicious
3652s	yeah all right snap for his new best
3655s	friend
3661s	snap Free's new best friend
3666s	oh it's great
3669s	that was that was our mistake we just
3670s	weren't using our skills
3675s	Pro tip use your ability you heard it
3677s	here first
3690s	very good okay next question
3693s	uh is it just me or the 2D art of the
3696s	primals looks a lot like you Mike yes uh
3699s	it uh I I think my face was used as
3703s	um a starting point for the original
3705s	concept art
3707s	um it's since been changed
3709s	um and updated so it drifted further
3711s	away but
3713s	um this the original concept art was
3716s	used as a base point for the second
3719s	concept art
3721s	um
3727s	um which I realize that I'm not
3729s	attacking this thing and it's because
3730s	I'm distracted by answering questions I
3732s	swear
3734s	um
3736s	uh so yes it does look a lot like me and
3739s	it's it's not a coincidence
3744s	I'm much more handsome now
3754s	um you can't laugh at yourself right
3755s	four thousand hours in and I can't find
3758s	Aryans for my life oh no and you plan a
3761s	way to get one item you want every two
3763s	thousand bottomless or something like
3764s	that
3765s	um there's certain
3768s	It's Tricky uh I do I do know that we we
3772s	try and put in
3774s	um this is this is really cool what this
3775s	did by the way it resets the whole grid
3777s	so if there's something this is a bunch
3779s	of like really cool nodes that you want
3780s	to like try again you can take a second
3782s	crack at them
3784s	um you do have to work your way back to
3786s	them oh does it let you start here
3788s	no okay that makes sense but it doesn't
3790s	reset once you failed which also makes
3792s	sense
3796s	let's go back and get some XP
3797s	you know you know
3799s	I think I'm gonna go do I still found
3801s	that exalted chest I might see this is
3803s	an exalted chest in my stash
3805s	and go back and do um
3807s	some dungeon action here in a minute but
3811s	yeah um
3813s	we do try and have directed farming
3815s	where you can like skew the odds in your
3818s	favor thank you champ I'm resub four
3820s	months in a row hey Mike any how long
3822s	Cycles will last I was just answering
3824s	this I think but uh I I don't have a
3827s	specific time I think that
3829s	um
3831s	it in an in and around the several
3834s	cycles per year of a few to a little bit
3838s	more than a few yeah a few to a little
3840s	bit more than a few cycles per year
3841s	range is is likely the goal
3846s	um we don't have that set in stone yet
3848s	unfortunately
3852s	um but I do I do think that having it be
3854s	a consistent number
3856s	um and avoiding other major releases
3859s	that uh might conflict is smart you know
3862s	like there's
3863s	these are all factors we're aware of and
3866s	things we'd love to uh to do I think the
3868s	priorities that we have around timing of
3871s	these are probably pretty similar to
3872s	what most people are hoping and um
3878s	and yeah
3880s	it's also the sort of thing that I like
3882s	I think we're flexible enough to change
3883s	if it's not going well
3893s	what are we doing here
3896s	I was answering your question wasn't I
3898s	uh directed directed item fine so yeah
3900s	like there's there's things that we add
3901s	in
3902s	um for example just like each one of
3904s	these has specific types of items uh of
3908s	like unique items that it has nodes for
3910s	in it so like you'll uh you'll like
3913s	pushing towards specific models will
3915s	help you find certain items better and
3917s	then
3918s	um
3919s	on top of that you can get monolith
3921s	rewards that that help you find specific
3924s	items better again so like
3926s	um like find more uniques or whatever
3928s	and
3930s	um
3932s	so we should we try and add in ways that
3936s	you can like improve your odds with
3938s	directed not full-on-deterministic item
3941s	finding but like directed item finding I
3944s	want to say and
3946s	um
3947s	I I think as more dungeons
3951s	get added you'll start to see more ways
3954s	for that to happen because like you can
3956s	go do the I think uh I think it drops
3959s	from there
3961s	in the soul Gambler and so you can just
3963s	like go to go do that dungeon and only
3965s	pick
3967s	um Whatever item slot you were talking
3968s	about sorry and uh I just just have a
3971s	higher chance to get it so there's
3972s	there's like there's things you can do
3974s	to like improve your odds
3977s	um
3979s	guaranteed and then oh yeah also um
3982s	ruins of ascendants yeah there's just
3984s	lots of things you need to be like to
3985s	focus on certain slots basically
3988s	um
3990s	to improve your odds on it and and like
3995s	full-on just 100 guaranteed it's gonna
3998s	be this
4000s	we we shy away from that pretty hard
4004s	what is my intelligence anyways oh it's
4006s	like 34. that's a problem
4010s	we don't have because I did unlock uh
4013s	the
4014s	monolith incorrectly we don't have our
4016s	blessings which is a problem
4019s	hit that wall
4040s	oh man a recovery I don't need it
4042s	because I have Mana for days
4045s	all right
4046s	how do we obtain fractured Crown these
4048s	days oh yeah
4050s	yes a very interesting item this this
4052s	item has a long history in last epoch
4056s	um
4058s	I it's it's I would call a secret in the
4061s	game so I don't really want to just like
4063s	flat out say it in case anyone doesn't
4066s	want to like know the secrets
4069s	um but I can give you some hints and
4070s	there are people that will tell you how
4071s	to do it and you can find walkthroughs
4073s	online if you really want to find out
4075s	um
4076s	so it is it's it's a bit of a nod to in
4079s	the previous system it was found by
4081s	fracturing uh Crown item through the
4085s	crafting system
4086s	so um previously when you were crafting
4088s	there was a chance that you could
4089s	fracture an item which is essentially
4091s	the same as running out of forging
4093s	potential now
4094s	um but it could happen just out of
4096s	nowhere where you'd be like first craft
4098s	fractured great that sucks
4101s	um and it was pretty problematic but
4103s	there's
4105s	um
4106s	you you would have to fracture a crown
4109s	item in the crafting system at a chance
4110s	when it fractured to turn into the
4112s	fractured Crown unique which is where it
4114s	got its name from
4116s	um I will say that the because we don't
4118s	have fracturing anymore in the game
4120s	um the system's not identical however it
4123s	is very reminiscent
4125s	of the old system
4128s	um and and combined with new mechanics
4130s	that we use for getting unique items out
4133s	of the crafting system
4135s	[Music]
4136s	um
4137s	so like just try and make yourself a
4139s	fractured Crown in the crafting system
4141s	but like be really careful about it
4143s	and like Deliverance
4148s	I think those are good clue
4161s	hey Mike hi Russell design how's it
4163s	going glad to have you here uh with the
4167s	uh rexent
4169s	uh
4172s	recent game releases of the yellow
4174s	mortal and undecember and they're very
4176s	aggressive monetization models how do
4178s	you guys stay the good guys does
4180s	financial success impact your plans of
4182s	monetization
4184s	um I I would consider
4188s	um like
4189s	I mean defining financial success is so
4192s	difficult
4193s	um
4195s	and and I think I think a good a good
4197s	game
4199s	can
4201s	I don't know how to say this though just
4203s	being a jerk to someone
4206s	um I think a good game can like respect
4209s	players and uh
4212s	have
4214s	Fair monetization systems
4217s	um and still be profitable and
4218s	successful and fun and awesome
4222s	um
4224s	and uh I I I'm
4229s	I don't see anything wrong with
4231s	um
4232s	going a little hard on the monster
4233s	station stuff but it's not the style of
4235s	game we're making
4237s	um the goal here is to make an awesome
4239s	game
4241s	um and in order to do that we need to
4243s	monetize the game in some way
4246s	um that will support continued
4248s	development of that game like like
4250s	that's the goal I guess
4253s	um
4257s	personally I already consider the game
4259s	very successful
4261s	um
4262s	which is which is which is wild
4265s	um
4267s	but we're I think we're really trying to
4270s	I think we've shown
4272s	I don't know like we don't want to add
4276s	in any paper power any pay to win any
4279s	pay for convenience
4281s	um type elements to the game that's
4282s	that's we're really really strong
4285s	against all of things like that for our
4287s	game
4288s	that's a good way to put it there we go
4289s	for our game we're really strongly
4291s	against those things
4292s	um and and that's not that's not the
4295s	type of systems we want to create for
4296s	our game
4297s	yeah I found the wording nailed it
4301s	um
4302s	you can tell I do this a lot right
4303s	anyways
4305s	um
4307s	and I I don't think there's anything
4309s	that I can really say other than just
4311s	like
4312s	wait and see what we do I'm very
4314s	confident in what we do you'll be happy
4316s	with
4317s	um
4319s	like we're not gonna put in
4322s	any way to
4324s	like I don't know have the joke be the
4326s	most powerful weapon in the game is a
4328s	credit card
4328s	you know like that's
4330s	I if anyone ever was able to say that
4332s	about last Epoch I'm gonna freak out uh
4336s	like then I was able to say that
4337s	seriously about last Epoch I'm gonna
4339s	freak out and do everything I can to
4340s	change it
4343s	um because that's the sort of game I
4345s	want to play it's the same sort of game
4346s	I want to make
4347s	um
4350s	and I I don't think we've done anything
4353s	to show that we're considering that
4357s	um I don't think we've done anything to
4359s	show that we're intending to do that
4362s	um we've been really careful to
4365s	um
4367s	I guess ask for the money we need
4369s	instead of the money we want to make
4371s	this game a reality
4374s	look at what he said I don't know maybe
4375s	kind of making stuff up as I go here
4377s	probably should have prepared stuff
4378s	before I talk about this topic
4380s	um
4383s	yeah
4387s	it's
4388s	it's a very it's really a difficult
4391s	thing to navigate when you're making a
4393s	game
4394s	um
4396s	like like so difficult
4399s	um and I don't know the right way to do
4402s	it and I like none of us do really we're
4403s	we're kind of
4405s	um maybe coming out of things a little
4407s	bit naively possibly but
4410s	um seems to be working great so far so
4413s	something something's going right
4420s	and there's there's there's no evidence
4422s	to suggest that what we're doing can't
4423s	be sustainable at all like
4426s	it is as far as as far as all the
4428s	evidence we have this is completely
4429s	sustainable
4431s	um in in the model that we planned and
4433s	everything and it'll still be fair and
4435s	fun and all sorts of stuff
4441s	what's the question
4443s	how do you guys stay good guys yeah I
4445s	don't I don't know how to answer your
4446s	question directly I hope I hope I
4447s	rambled enough that I got to An Answer
4449s	somewhere
4450s	roughly
4452s	oh that was a lot of damage
4464s	uh is there any ongoing discussion about
4466s	more multipliers within skill trees
4469s	particularly in normalizing them or
4471s	baking them into points invested which
4473s	skills underperformed which skills
4474s	underperform fairly detrimentally
4477s	fairly determined which skills
4480s	underperform seems fairly determined by
4482s	just not having these multipliers
4485s	um
4486s	he did talk about having uh
4491s	um like specific
4493s	yeah just like just like more damage
4495s	like the skill leveling up so I'll get
4496s	how to say this in um uh cdl2 as an
4500s	example as you level up a skill
4502s	um as you put points into that skill it
4504s	doesn't do it doesn't change
4505s	mechanically very much very often
4508s	um I mean some of them do like uh as you
4510s	put more points into someone's skeleton
4511s	you get more maximum skeletons you can
4513s	summon but most of them like for example
4515s	let's use Fireball it's just firewall
4517s	does more damage
4518s	all right well there's more damage I
4520s	also end up costing more Mana
4522s	um but yeah firewall does more damage
4526s	and um which which kind of effectively
4528s	is like there are different nodes in
4530s	different trees for like this kind of
4532s	like super like single node skill trees
4533s	and we considered having an effect
4537s	um for each skilled skill tree that was
4540s	unique to that skill based on the number
4541s	of nodes invested
4543s	um
4544s	so for example things like
4547s	have like Fireball nodes and the points
4549s	invested in Fireball for every Point
4551s	invest in Fireball it does two percent
4552s	more damage or whatever and see 20
4554s	points invested and it's basically like
4556s	having a 40 more damage multiplier on
4558s	the skill at max level compared to what
4560s	it is at base level
4562s	so yeah we have considered doing that
4564s	um
4566s	one of the big reasons we don't actually
4568s	have that is
4571s	um
4572s	we struggled a lot to come up with good
4575s	examples on how to do that for abilities
4577s	like teleport for example
4580s	um
4582s	because quite often there is there's
4584s	like a subset of abilities that are kind
4586s	of like the whole one point Wonder
4587s	abilities that actually do work decently
4590s	well without investing into them
4592s	um and we kind of like having those and
4595s	as soon as you have those
4597s	um usually the per Point investment
4601s	changes uh for a skill and a skill just
4604s	that's just like a base skill level up
4606s	change on non-combat abilities for
4609s	example teleport the obvious things to
4611s	scale are Mana cost and cooldown
4613s	um because it's basically all it is is
4615s	just uh man across cooldown move uh at
4618s	base
4620s	um
4621s	you you end up having to
4624s	uh you end up with the final version of
4626s	the skill either being so
4629s	freaking
4631s	fast and cheap and amazing just from the
4634s	base
4635s	um or you have the base skill just being
4638s	unbelievably terrible to use because
4641s	there's this interesting thing that
4642s	happens when you unlock a new skill and
4643s	you already have we've got to fix for
4645s	that by the way that like running to the
4646s	left every time yeah we've got a fix for
4649s	it
4650s	um just just was discovered the fix I
4652s	think yesterday anyways
4654s	um
4656s	and what was I saying uh oh yeah like
4660s	when you unlock a new skill there's no
4661s	points in it and quite often what a lot
4663s	of people do is when they unlock a new
4664s	skill first thing they do is they just
4666s	put on the bar and try and see how it
4667s	feels
4669s	um and if you have none especially
4670s	non-combat skills like teleports the
4671s	prime example here
4673s	um you stick teleport in your bar you
4674s	use it once and you're like oh that had
4677s	a 15 second cooldown at base and costs
4681s	30 mana and I'm level 10 or whatever and
4683s	it's like that was awful
4686s	um and so having those those initial
4687s	impacts and the abilities
4689s	um
4691s	and also just combined with the
4694s	the fact that it's kind of interesting
4696s	to be able to build a skill for utility
4698s	specifically and not focus on the damage
4700s	and and having those Universal uh
4703s	effects on these skills really do steer
4707s	them one note frequently so someone so
4710s	the other flip side of this is say
4711s	someone wants to really make their
4713s	Fireball
4715s	um like the big the whole point of
4716s	firewall is to apply ignites to as many
4718s	things as possible simultaneously to be
4721s	able to trigger some effect off of
4722s	having ignited targets
4725s	and you don't care how much damage
4726s	Fireball actually is doing at all all
4729s	you care about is that it's applying
4730s	ignite to as many things as possible
4733s	um but what Fireball does when it levels
4734s	up is it just gets more damage
4735s	multiplier
4736s	great that's doing basically nothing for
4739s	you
4740s	um and so it takes away that
4742s	decision-making moment of do I want to
4744s	put points into it being a damage
4746s	ability or more of a utility ability and
4749s	we think that's an interesting decision
4750s	to make
4751s	um most of the time yeah it is just more
4754s	damage there you go
4756s	um and I think the solution is likely
4760s	um dialing back the amount of just more
4763s	damage nodes that are available on on
4766s	skills that have like six of those
4767s	already
4769s	um and more bringing them into
4770s	conditional the more damage nodes uh
4772s	bringing them into uh just just maybe
4775s	more damage for fewer points in some
4777s	situations or just reducing the total
4779s	number of points investable so instead
4780s	of a five point node it's a three-point
4781s	node let's say
4783s	um and then uh and then and then skewing
4786s	some of that balance for power onto
4788s	items a little bit more
4790s	um and we've talked about what this is a
4791s	few times
4794s	uh where it's likely going to be
4796s	something along the lines of those
4798s	conditions because it could change a lot
4800s	um having the so right now you see this
4802s	is um getting four point uh four percent
4804s	increased damage per point of
4807s	intelligence
4808s	um the primer where you get intelligence
4809s	is through your items uh there are seven
4812s	passes in a few other ways but primarily
4814s	it's through items
4815s	um so this is the like direct item
4817s	scaling power on Fireball for you so if
4820s	that was instead maybe one percent more
4822s	per point
4824s	suddenly that's multiplicative with a
4826s	lot of other things on items and you're
4829s	seeing
4830s	um
4831s	intelligence as a multiplicative power
4833s	increase on your on your damage on your
4835s	skills
4836s	um
4842s	so that's a really long-winded way of
4844s	saying we're probably going to fix this
4845s	the problem you're describing a
4846s	different way
4851s	does this work yeah it works
4858s	it almost didn't work
4861s	I missed the end of drops I forgot about
4864s	that that also was fixed recently uh so
4866s	the dragon drops things faster I'm
4869s	pretty sure those things
4870s	so you don't portal away before the item
4872s	the dragon drops its items it's just got
4873s	that like that death animation and we
4875s	liked it we wanted to show the death
4876s	animation but yeah people do exactly
4878s	what I just did in Portal away before uh
4881s	before you get it
4883s	unfortunately I'm gonna go I want that
4886s	exalted chest to do I was gonna check
4888s	okay let's check to see if we have an
4889s	exalted chest that's worthwhile
4892s	um to do this with
4896s	just
4904s	I don't think it matters if it's class
4907s	specific as long as you don't get the
4908s	class specific one so there's a ton of
4910s	Health we could get off that one
4913s	just if we roll and grab the I do I do
4916s	have a backup one I could keep in case
4920s	foreign
4926s	s those are identical items that's funny
4933s	um
4938s	let's Craft on that a bit
4942s	I'm over here now
4944s	see I can teleport just like my
4948s	my character again
4950s	ciao
4953s	if you haven't seen me this is our
4954s	crafting system it's pretty cool once
4956s	you add stats to items what do we need
4959s	what if we're going to get another
4960s	resistance voids our primary physical
4963s	let's let's uh Fizz res
4969s	slap this on
4971s	so this glyph
4972s	um reduces so we have 34 each potential
4974s	just in case people don't know what this
4976s	is
4977s	um two prefixes two suffixes we can pick
4979s	exactly which ones go on there we can
4981s	use glyphs to modify the craft that's
4984s	going to give us this this extra suffix
4985s	here which is physical resistance so
4987s	it's going to just add Fizz res to this
4988s	item this reduces the chance of us
4992s	losing forging potential so I'm going to
4993s	use summertime 1 and 18 Forge potential
4995s	and it is weighted towards the one a
4997s	little bit
4998s	um not heavily but a little bit skewed
5000s	that way just so you feel like you're
5002s	lucky more than you're not
5004s	um 30 remaining
5006s	um and this has a chance to just not use
5008s	any at all
5010s	um so we're just gonna start doing this
5012s	um so there we use uh the Hope preserved
5015s	it so we didn't use anything
5016s	uh goof up again we lost three
5020s	um we got a critical success
5022s	um so what that means is it it doesn't
5025s	use any and then it also gave us a free
5027s	level of something else which I think
5029s	could give us a free level of Mana which
5031s	is cool
5032s	um that we use 20 we're down to seven
5035s	uh try to finish this off uh we didn't
5037s	make it it's fine T4 Mana oh good
5041s	um so now that we have an exalted item
5043s	here that's level up in size it can go
5045s	we're gonna go take this to
5048s	um the one of the dungeons that the
5050s	reward lets us combine uh an exalted
5053s	item and a unique item with legendary
5056s	potential of the same base type so
5058s	they're both body armors it's that that
5060s	that line that's directly under the
5063s	um
5065s	uh
5066s	uh let's direct the end of the name so
5068s	woven Flush body armor that's what
5069s	you're looking for and Mage body armor
5070s	is fine
5073s	um and it will take the num it'll take a
5075s	number of affixes from the exalted item
5077s	the purple and put it onto the unique
5079s	the orange item so equal to the
5081s	legendary potential so it's going to put
5082s	take one random affix from this purple
5083s	item and put it on this orange item
5085s	which is why I leveled all them up as
5087s	high as we can go because I don't know
5088s	which one it's going to take I kind of
5089s	hope it takes the Vitality but I'd be
5091s	fine with all of those
5094s	so we're gonna do that
5097s	and
5100s	which key is it there's one triple
5102s	section yet
5104s	if you right click on Keys it opens the
5107s	map to the exact location you need to go
5109s	and you can also right click on the Node
5110s	too
5111s	all right let's back some questions
5114s	is there any ongoing discussion about oh
5116s	yeah is there any philosophy on a skill
5119s	getting a large upgrade at level 21 or
5122s	23 I think it'd be really cool if there
5124s	was a build that could only work with
5125s	plus levels and skills I mean that's
5127s	cool how there's like this is saying
5129s	that this has happened with this like
5130s	two related questions that's that's
5132s	pretty cool
5133s	um so this is actually something that we
5134s	do kind of look at when we're building a
5136s	skill tree
5138s	um and sometimes we'll put two nodes
5139s	really far away from each other I'm not
5141s	highlighting these two nodes
5142s	specifically by any means but just as an
5144s	example sometimes we'll put two nodes
5145s	really far away from each other on the
5147s	tree specifically and and intentionally
5150s	make them work really well together
5152s	um with the understanding that the only
5154s	way to really make the build work is
5156s	that you need to get those extra points
5157s	in order to be able to spread out in the
5159s	tree a little bit more
5161s	um so while we don't explicitly directly
5163s	do it super carefully closely like
5166s	exactly
5167s	um
5168s	we do we do kind of do it a little bit
5172s	ish here and there
5175s	um so the first two of this dungeon uh
5177s	so I can only do unique items the level
5180s	requirement 50 or below unfortunately
5182s	woven flesh is 51.
5184s	um so we're gonna have to unlock the
5186s	second tier to be able to do it
5189s	which is fine we can do it right
5192s	right
5195s	right yeah okay cool thanks
5202s	oh Warpath visuals are being revamped
5204s	animation synced up tighter overall it's
5206s	feeling much nicer internally compared
5207s	to what is live cool I didn't know if
5209s	that was uh being shared or not but
5211s	thank you
5220s	that was good the game director popping
5224s	in to say hi
5236s	uh what is your take on adding character
5239s	customization options such as different
5240s	faces hair styles or skin color is it
5242s	too much effort for such a small thing
5244s	what if it was sold as MTX yeah so um
5249s	this is this is one of those things
5251s	where one day we'd love to have this in
5253s	the game
5254s	it's gonna happen for one point now
5255s	definitely not
5257s	um it's it's there's just too much to
5260s	make it
5262s	uh to make it into 1.0 basically
5267s	um
5268s	I'd say this is a good it's one of those
5270s	features that you're like there's a good
5271s	chance we'll get around to this
5272s	eventually
5273s	when I have no idea
5276s	um
5278s	but we do we do want to have character
5280s	customization the basic version of this
5282s	is
5284s	um
5285s	uh like just just gender options and
5289s	um it's something that we yeah we would
5291s	like to have in the game
5293s	um because it's a big deal to a lot of
5294s	people
5295s	um a lot of people it's the least
5298s	important thing ever
5300s	um and we we had to make a decision a
5302s	little while ago on how important we
5305s	considered it compared to some other
5306s	features
5308s	um it's it's just a like
5312s	of these 50 things we want to put in you
5315s	get to pick seven
5317s	which are the seven you want you know
5319s	and that happens a lot unfortunately
5322s	um and a lot of them go to okay well
5324s	when we don't have time but we'll get to
5326s	that we'll do it
5327s	um
5329s	and we we do we set aside time for that
5331s	in a lot of cases and a lot of those
5332s	things that we thought we wouldn't put
5333s	in yet we have turned around and done
5335s	because because priorities change and
5337s	you know it's it's nothing set in stone
5339s	really on when the order of stuff has to
5342s	happen and all sorts of stuff
5349s	oh come on yeah there we go nice
5353s	take it
5355s	I will take it
5362s	exalted relics
5365s	roll with it
5374s	are you a guy that built this game I am
5376s	a guy that built this game
5379s	I'm one of the senior Developers for 11
5381s	Tower Games and I have been working on
5383s	last Epoch for
5386s	well since before the kickstarter
5387s	whatever that is
5391s	four years now
5394s	It's gotta be four years now
5400s	so we're at the old house and this
5401s	started yeah
5411s	it's like it was almost almost a full
5413s	year I think before Kickstarter
5417s	I don't know it's been a while
5420s	it's been awesome
5428s	I I just go past a huge chunk that was
5431s	um no pings to me and I'm assuming some
5433s	people probably didn't take me in some
5435s	questions so I apologize if I just
5436s	scroll past your question
5438s	um
5439s	I still got one I'm gonna ask here but
5441s	if if I did like full on go past if you
5444s	see me as answering a question after
5445s	yours just re-ask it with that lastly
5448s	about game and the question and I'll
5449s	adhere to it
5451s	um so with regards to more modifiers is
5454s	there a and I'm skipping a question are
5456s	there going to be portal maze like
5458s	levels similar to sanctuary in Diablo 2.
5463s	um
5469s	I I immediately thought chaos sanctuary
5472s	and I'm like what are you talking about
5474s	and I'm like
5476s	Arcane Sanctuary yes right obviously
5480s	um
5481s	I don't think we have anything directly
5483s	planned I guess actually the um Temple
5486s	of a terror is kind of similar to that
5487s	actually so I guess yes
5491s	uh it's different though because you're
5492s	not trying to find one of them that's
5494s	random
5495s	it's always the same one
5498s	um
5499s	maybe eventually
5506s	it's The Relic node coming in
5510s	this one snap freeze 40 Mana
5513s	not bad did we pick it up do we use it
5516s	chill shocking night we're not really
5517s	doing any of those things yeah I like
5520s	how Relic we're gonna leave it
5530s	uh with regards to more multipliers is
5533s	there a quota aimed for a skill tree no
5535s	Center strike is a notorious example of
5537s	having a lot of it added flat damage but
5539s	so few multipliers that it becomes
5541s	mostly a support skill Tempest strike
5543s	offers a ton of really cool utility
5545s	nodes the few scaling nodes yeah there's
5547s	there's not
5549s	um every single one's done on a per case
5552s	basis
5554s	um none of them are like
5559s	uh like just just go for it
5562s	oh Idol's nice that's what I'm talking
5564s	about right there
5567s	um we we don't have a set like it has to
5569s	have this many more nodes or anything
5570s	like that for any tree no
5577s	uh can this choose a modifier
5579s	unique already let's choose a modifier
5582s	the unique already has yes it definitely
5584s	can
5585s	um so for example this isn't a habit but
5588s	if I had increased health
5591s	um on there it would it would it would
5592s	show up as two separate mods you'll see
5594s	how it shows up in a second when I
5595s	finish um I'll make one she always drops
5597s	a ring and um
5601s	uh I remember which key it was for a
5605s	second
5607s	oh my goodness
5614s	that's the way I've done this before
5633s	Escape is impossible
5657s	it's stuck in this corner over here
5660s	Escape is impossible
5673s	here we go
5683s	right
5684s	immune in the room you're at
5699s	yeah I get sucked into that black hole
5700s	deal with it yeah okay so she always
5701s	drops a
5703s	um an exalted ring and a unique ring
5705s	with one legendary potential on it so
5706s	you can always make a legendary no
5707s	matter what just in case
5711s	[Music]
5712s	um
5714s	not awesome not awesome
5717s	fine
5718s	let's go make one
5729s	actually I'm not throwing away a sweet
5731s	ring that's not a bad ring
5734s	it's not great it's not bad
5737s	so we pulled the increased lightning
5739s	damage off of that
5741s	uh off of that ring so it shows up as
5743s	like a red mod
5745s	um and the item changes to well pink red
5747s	but yeah
5749s	so yeah if if this got increased Health
5751s	it would show up as a red mod above that
5754s	says increase health there would be two
5755s	instances of increased Health on the
5757s	item
5766s	all right could there be a secondary
5768s	layer of utility two resistances
5771s	uh like incoming related element
5773s	efficiency duration shaped off for
5776s	example or chance to trigger some class
5778s	specific mechanic if hit with specific
5779s	damage type I mean I think it's a great
5781s	idea for an item a passive
5785s	um
5787s	a temporary effect on a skill like those
5791s	those are great ideas I don't think that
5792s	that's
5793s	um
5795s	a fantastic thing to put in
5799s	as just a baseline effect for
5802s	resistances in general because it
5805s	already helps with a lot of
5807s	um any damage dealing uh ailment already
5810s	so like fire resistance helps deal with
5812s	Ignite just by the fact that you just
5813s	take less damage less fire damage right
5817s	um
5818s	so so not likely
5825s	alrighty
5827s	here we go level two a little 80 but
5830s	second tier
5832s	but we can make a woven flesh legendary
5836s	out of it
5841s	you know what we have
5844s	oh pass the points
5847s	um
5852s	we're still putting keeping points in
5853s	there and the other option is there's
5855s	more antwer Mana
5857s	um or this one
5865s	this is basically 10 on use of my every
5870s	time I use a fire or cold skill
5872s	and this is just when I use my cold
5874s	skill 40. so it's basically the same
5876s	either way seven per Point yeah this is
5879s	more
5885s	I guess not actually because it's on a
5887s	cool down this is not a huge cooldown
5894s	um
5907s	I'm not gonna just Waltz through this
5909s	one am I I'm gonna actually have to
5910s	pretend like I'm playing a real game
5918s	a fireball's not doing a lot of damage
5919s	is it
5923s	all right can we get a Monk class that
5925s	has a healing wind ability oh funny up
5927s	there actually is a healing wind ability
5929s	in the game that used to be there and
5930s	it's technically still there it's it's
5932s	not the same as healing one that you're
5934s	talking about
5935s	um
5937s	but it's the
5939s	um activated ability for spring and uh
5943s	Southern spring once it's cast
5945s	um anyways the
5947s	uh as far as a monk Mastery
5950s	um or Bass glass even I guess if we're
5953s	going in the game I think that there is
5954s	room for class like a monk
5957s	um or possibly a monk exactly but it
5959s	will not be in 1.0 and we don't have any
5961s	specific examples of timelines for more
5964s	classes coming into the game after 1.0
5975s	we are interested in adding more classes
5977s	though eventually it's it's a matter of
5979s	when not if
5981s	um and then monk is a a pretty popular
5984s	request
5985s	um and fits nicely in a few different
5987s	archetypes
5988s	um so there's there's certain base
5990s	classes that could be possible to add to
5991s	it and there's other
5993s	um there's even classes that already
5994s	exist that could it could be added as a
5996s	Mastery to already
6004s	you know what after we I didn't I didn't
6007s	give you a spoiler when I died last time
6009s	did I oh Mike you're terrible okay as
6012s	soon as I either die or
6017s	[Music]
6018s	um
6019s	as soon as I die or uh
6022s	complete this we'll do a
6026s	we'll do a spoiler
6028s	I just I was just reading a suggestion
6030s	that Kane had I think is great Kane I
6032s	agree I like it do it I don't know how
6034s	to do it
6039s	get through
6042s	salted relics take it
6049s	can all uniques I can actually shorten
6052s	this sentence can all uniques have up to
6055s	four LP
6056s	uh or are there individual restrictions
6058s	per item
6060s	um yes all uniques can have up to 4 lb
6064s	uh the question asked actually was can
6067s	all uniques which can have LP uh have up
6069s	to 4 LP um the reason I took that out is
6071s	because
6073s	um I guess if I should mentioned
6074s	previously some uniques could not have
6076s	legendary potential because they were
6078s	acquirable as a
6081s	um only as a class Quest as a storyline
6084s	Quest reward
6087s	um and we added and we added in the
6089s	second set of dungeons one of the
6091s	rewards the soul Gambler means you can
6093s	actually gamble those uniques and they
6095s	can have legendary Potential from that
6096s	gambler
6100s	but I'm trying to think if there's still
6102s	an exception there might be one that he
6103s	still cans but
6104s	um yeah anything can at the same time
6106s	though
6107s	um
6108s	the chance of having legendary potential
6111s	on an item is relative to
6114s	um that items based power
6118s	and so uh most of the time that's just
6121s	relative to the item level so like uh
6123s	I'll we saw that um I thought I still
6126s	had it on me the rainbow Edge we got
6127s	earlier
6128s	um I have two LP found out really yearly
6129s	really easily two I'll be no problem
6132s	um it's a very low level unique so it
6134s	finds High legendary credential a lot
6136s	easier
6137s	um
6138s	level 80 90 uniques especially
6142s	um are really rare to have legendary
6144s	potential on them at all let alone four
6146s	like there's certain uniques that if
6148s	someone posts a screenshot of it with
6150s	4lp I'll be like yeah right
6154s	um
6155s	and and there's others where people post
6157s	the screenshot with 4lp I'll be like
6158s	yeah sweet you found one you'll find
6161s	another one you know
6164s	um so the chance varies pretty wildly
6166s	and this is really intentional because
6168s	what it does partially is it
6170s	I'm about to throw it in which is really
6172s	nice actually
6177s	um what it partially does is it uh it
6180s	gives a home for low level and leveling
6182s	uniques as um as later game items
6185s	generally not
6187s	um it's not it's not to say that the
6189s	goal is to have every single item be end
6191s	game viable but it just uh helps improve
6194s	their odds
6195s	of being in-game viable or uh or just
6198s	useful at all
6200s	because what you can kind of do is you
6201s	can kind of look at a
6203s	um a four LP
6206s	leveling unique as
6209s	um the implicit values the entire
6211s	properties that unique as just the
6212s	implicit values of some exalted item
6216s	um
6217s	because if you slap an exalted I don't
6219s	want it the whole exalted goes there
6221s	I guess exalted and sealed affix slots
6224s	all right implicit unsealed affix lots
6226s	of that exalted
6230s	sealed affixes cannot be pulled
6232s	um through the legendary creation
6235s	process
6245s	okay is that we do this is kind of a
6248s	joke there's a few there's a couple
6249s	uniques that are just like so bad
6253s	um that even four LP versions of them
6254s	are a bit of a joke so hammer Florent
6257s	and
6259s	um Alchemist Ladle are the two that come
6261s	to mind always
6262s	um
6264s	and uh just because like even even the
6267s	stats on Alchemist Ladle are there's
6268s	implicits that are better than it you
6270s	know
6271s	um
6272s	and uh
6276s	what was I gonna say the um
6281s	is that how you do how you make those
6283s	relevant you're like secret items that
6284s	can have five LP and allow seal that
6287s	fixes to go in there
6288s	it's not it's not that's not the game
6294s	be funny I think
6298s	okay we're almost there our damage
6300s	output's low and we're really squishy
6303s	um but I'm having a lot of fun so it
6304s	doesn't matter
6311s	I do carry the epoch then
6315s	you're gonna be used for it I have a use
6317s	for it come on be real here let's not
6320s	kid anyone come on
6321s	I wasn't born yesterday
6324s	I actually won't be born for many
6326s	decades but you know
6328s	use everything use everything
6333s	take it
6336s	should just walk to the left slightly
6339s	oh boy oh boy
6352s	all right
6355s	as promised
6357s	this one's pretty sweet
6363s	foreign
6372s	boy
6374s	Big Score people I actually looked the
6375s	scale on the right
6379s	all right will there be non-human
6382s	classes like playable nagasa or Ospreys
6384s	I mean so that's that's a really cool
6387s	topic
6388s	um there's nothing explicitly on the
6390s	books for that just yet
6394s	um
6394s	but I mean
6397s	a few years from now
6400s	I think that's a viable option of
6402s	something to do and I think it's really
6403s	cool
6404s	um
6405s	maybe there's a whole maybe there's
6407s	maybe maybe like fully not
6411s	uh planned or anything like that but I
6414s	mean I I think about a lot of these
6415s	things just on admissare time and I
6419s	think it would be really cool to add
6420s	sorry okay this is the the problem with
6422s	adding um making so that any class can
6425s	be a
6427s	um a different race is either it's
6429s	purely Cosmetic in which case whatever
6431s	it's fine it's cool
6432s	um but if there's any mechanical value
6434s	to it at all you need to be able to
6436s	switch between them
6437s	or else you've just um multiplied the
6440s	number of classes by this other thing
6442s	that's non-mutable
6444s	immutable whatever
6446s	um
6447s	and
6449s	uh so what I'd really like to see is
6451s	like a new class a new base class with
6454s	new masteries and it be A different race
6457s	um specifically so it's like oh you're
6459s	gonna play the
6461s	um
6463s	I don't know whatever class
6466s	um and it's it happens to be in ospreys
6468s	uh I think that'd be really cool that
6470s	would that would be my vote for it I
6472s	could just be uh uh cosmetic only thing
6474s	for for maybe it's a ntx or maybe it's
6478s	um
6479s	uh maybe it's just like an auction when
6481s	you're creating your character to pick
6482s	from I don't know there's lots of
6483s	different things that would come in the
6484s	same time as like a sort of a race thing
6486s	happens it's
6487s	uh
6490s	it multiple like if it's a selectable
6492s	option as well a big problem is it
6493s	multiplies the number of animations you
6495s	have to do
6496s	um cellular access that multiplies
6497s	animations which is just an unbelievable
6500s	amount of work you can also like armor
6501s	skinning and it's just so much which is
6503s	why I think it would work well as uh
6505s	like this class happens to be in
6506s	ospreads I can be cool
6510s	there we go
6512s	uh what are we doing pretending we know
6515s	how to play this game
6517s	do we have any points we can put in
6518s	stuff to make ourselves not bad
6521s	um
6524s	I sealed really terrible affixes on
6526s	these just because I was trying to fix
6527s	my resistances
6529s	uh it's like Dodge reading sealed on a
6532s	bunch of these things
6535s	you rush what happens when you rush
6539s	let's just go try again I think I can do
6540s	it
6550s	oh eight minutes can I do it in eight
6551s	minutes I doubt it
6553s	we'll try
6555s	why primeless don't have any throwing
6557s	skills
6559s	um I mean so this is
6561s	partially it's just for class identity
6563s	um partially it's because they already
6564s	have so much going on that having
6566s	support for that in their passive tree
6569s	in their not just their passage when I
6571s	say support for it in the past three I'm
6572s	kind of broadly referring to all class
6574s	specific customization axes so I'm also
6577s	just Idols
6579s	um like there's a lot of throwing
6580s	interaction idols on both Rogue and
6581s	Prime list uh sorry Sentinel
6584s	um and then then it's not just
6588s	um
6590s	uh what else is there there's other
6592s	things too uh passives items uh so
6595s	there's class specific affixes on uh
6598s	like like your helmet chest and
6601s	uh Relic as well and and there's
6604s	um
6607s	throwing related things yeah there's
6611s	there's just keeping
6612s	keeping things focused a little bit and
6615s	and restricting the the number of
6616s	options that there are lets us
6619s	um put interesting decisions on each one
6622s	of them if every class can basically do
6624s	everything then there's and you're going
6626s	through the tree
6629s	so there was to say we worked throwing
6631s	damage into this tree
6632s	um in order to not have it be so huge
6635s	that it's overwhelmingly large we ended
6637s	up merging nodes so let's like let's say
6639s	we took these nodes and we switched them
6641s	together and we made like the fire nice
6643s	nodes and then we put three nodes in the
6644s	middle here in place and then we we took
6646s	these two nodes we switched them
6647s	together and put another one there you
6648s	know like and we're like we're making
6649s	room by just squishing things together
6651s	um
6652s	and and suddenly the tree because
6654s	there's so many different themes in a
6655s	tree it becomes okay just take all the
6657s	throwing nodes take all the fire nodes
6659s	take all the spell nodes like there's
6660s	you just whatever you're doing just take
6662s	all the nodes associated with that one
6663s	thing but instead we want to create
6664s	decisions so you're having to like say
6666s	like oh I'm gonna take this or this like
6668s	what's the what's the thing I want to
6670s	take from my specific build and then
6671s	like when you build that class
6672s	differently maybe you're using some
6674s	nodes from the last time you did it but
6675s	you're you're switching up other nodes
6677s	so that's it's like it's different each
6679s	time and
6681s	um having that having that variation and
6684s	the decision making is is interesting
6685s	and fun
6687s	um
6688s	and when there's too many themes
6690s	involved in a single passive tree uh
6692s	those kind of vanish
6695s	a little bit they they they Whittle away
6713s	all right and and then also class
6715s	identity I was talking about earlier
6717s	rewind the tape an hour
6722s	all right hey man do you think a PC of a
6724s	gigabytes of RAM and a 3050 TI graphics
6726s	card would run this game smoothly on Max
6728s	settings probably not Mac settings
6731s	um do require some
6732s	uh some doing
6735s	um
6736s	we're also on the cusp of a pretty big
6739s	um performance patch which is going to
6740s	change a lot of stuff uh it's it's much
6742s	more about your CPU than either of those
6744s	two things you posted however the ram is
6745s	a little light
6747s	um just in general I think these days
6749s	and
6751s	um video card is
6753s	uh that video card I think is rated
6755s	almost identically to the one I'm using
6757s	now
6758s	um
6760s	and uh I'm cpul next
6762s	I know that
6772s	okay
6779s	my goodness
6782s	guys come on just like give me a break
6783s	here
6785s	okay that's enough kills
6795s	run
6796s	run oh no
6827s	however I will say that the um
6830s	difference between medium and Max
6831s	settings isn't really that huge
6835s	this is on medium I'm pretty sure right
6837s	now
6838s	medium
6840s	1440.
6843s	turn this on you should always everyone
6845s	should always be having this on even if
6846s	you're not streaming trust me it'll just
6848s	run better
6849s	I promise
6854s	there you can see the settings that I've
6855s	got
6858s	and like so with those settings I and
6861s	streaming simultaneously on a
6864s	now quite dated computer
6868s	um
6869s	this is this is a 1080 TI
6872s	uh Factory OC Edition or something like
6874s	that
6875s	um and a i7 77 77 and 100K or something
6881s	not overclocked
6883s	um
6884s	maybe slightly overclocked it's got any
6886s	school around there the 16 the 32 is the
6888s	ram but I need that for the editor
6893s	um
6895s	and I don't know how great the stream
6897s	quality is but as far as and I don't
6899s	keep
6900s	um
6900s	let's see what generates how fast that I
6902s	can hurt it
6906s	um oh it's the he's getting healed
6909s	wasn't it yeah that's what's going on
6911s	that's funny
6912s	um anyways the I I I do not notice any
6915s	frame issues whatsoever like it is
6917s	butter smooth as far as I'm concerned
6923s	all right will there be a Stone of
6924s	Jordan type ring at some point Stoner
6926s	Jordan yeah so like
6928s	um if you mean plus one to all skills on
6930s	a ring it's not impossible
6935s	um
6937s	if you mean a singular generically
6940s	amazing super awesome ring that
6942s	basically everyone wants for any build
6944s	for almost any reason
6946s	um I really hope not
6950s	um plus one to all skills on a ring is
6951s	much less overpowered amazing in last
6954s	Epoch than it is in D2 though so
6958s	um you know there's differences there in
6959s	power
6970s	this will kill me last time run oh no
6973s	okay good
6977s	I I know I could have dealt with that
6979s	it's fun
6992s	fools
6995s	oh I love that line I love it
6998s	uh hello mate sorry to bother you with a
7000s	question that's why I'm here no problem
7002s	at all
7003s	um which maybe someone has already sent
7005s	you oh well then in that case I'm out no
7006s	I'm just kidding uh by the way I'm
7008s	French sorry for me this sounds great so
7010s	far but uh my question is do you plan to
7012s	translate the game in different
7013s	languages Spanish French Russian etc etc
7015s	are only English things for an advanced
7017s	answer
7018s	um so we do plan to so the term term
7020s	generally is used as localization we do
7022s	plan to localize the game to other
7023s	regions
7025s	um because it doesn't always necessarily
7026s	mean just strictly language changes
7029s	um sometimes there's really simple
7030s	localization differences that are um
7033s	kind of subtle and weird so like I live
7036s	in Canada and
7037s	um usually like like I use a an American
7040s	keyboard layout like you're thinking
7042s	well you both speak English how could it
7044s	be different keyboard layout for uh an
7046s	American and Canadian keyboard layouts
7048s	Canadian keyboard layouts suck oh my
7051s	goodness it's terrible seriously it is
7054s	awful and like you install Windows on a
7057s	computer and it tries to like force the
7058s	keyboard layout to Canadian and you're
7060s	just like No And it adds an extra second
7063s	keyboard layout yeah sorry I used to
7065s	tech support for years I'm a little
7066s	better still
7067s	um
7069s	anyways I'll get out of that
7071s	um what am I getting at yes we do find
7073s	to localize the games when I'm way out
7075s	of tangent
7076s	um I I don't have details on Which
7078s	languages we're going to start with um
7079s	it will be an ongoing process that we
7081s	will continue to improve and expand upon
7084s	as we progress initial launch I assume
7087s	uh I or I expect we'll have like it may
7091s	not be initial launch at some point
7092s	hopefully initial launch
7094s	um I'm trying to make any promises I
7095s	don't really answer to uh we'll have
7097s	like a select few popular languages that
7099s	we see high user interaction with
7103s	um and we think would be the be
7105s	um more valuable in
7108s	um
7109s	uh expanding the number of people that
7113s	can comfortably and enjoy the game
7115s	there's some languages that it's really
7116s	uh it's a lot more work to translate
7118s	into certain languages because there are
7120s	different
7121s	um character sets we've done a bunch of
7123s	work with that already
7125s	um you may or may not know this but
7127s	there are settings that you can turn on
7130s	um different character sets for chat so
7132s	it will um it'll you'll start to see
7134s	um people talking with Cyrillic and
7136s	people talking with Han I think is the
7138s	proper name for that
7140s	apologize if I screwed either those up
7142s	that's my bad I'm just ignorant
7146s	um
7147s	and uh yeah it's it's something we we
7150s	want to do we want to expand upon I
7152s	don't know the details on when it's
7153s	gonna happen or what extent it's gonna
7154s	be but
7155s	um yeah that's an important thing we
7157s	know that it's that a lot of people
7158s	don't speak English and a lot of people
7160s	like playing games like this so I I mean
7162s	yeah we'd love to
7165s	the the really hard part is this like
7168s	this needs to be really clear there's
7170s	really specific wording and and things
7173s	get lost in translation sometimes uh the
7175s	difference between increased and more is
7177s	a really integral part of
7180s	um defining what this node does I just
7183s	got lucky that I found a more damage
7184s	done right off the bat but like uh
7186s	little things like that have a huge
7188s	impact and because the people who are
7190s	making these trees don't necessarily
7191s	speak those languages having it be uh
7194s	accurate and precise is really difficult
7199s	we are partnering with a company that is
7202s	experienced in
7204s	um specifically game development
7207s	um
7208s	localization
7211s	um so they're you know
7215s	they're they're good at that stuff
7217s	we do have a lot of multilingual people
7219s	on staff um like we're very
7220s	international team
7223s	um and so there's there's like there are
7225s	people that are able to help
7227s	um make that those distinctions on staff
7229s	already and and help improve the quality
7232s	of that right away
7237s	we're a little over time I'm doing the
7239s	boss fight I have one more spoiler I do
7241s	have more spoiler it's a good one
7282s	oh
7286s	put that in the dumbest spot ever
7291s	I gotta answering questions I got
7293s	flustered and I'm
7295s	oh
7314s	well next week we have a clear goal
7318s	oh there's a prediction for it oh gosh
7323s	I didn't even notice that
7327s	oh it's embarrassing okay well next week
7330s	we have a clear goal I will bring my b
7333s	game this is my C game
7336s	uh
7341s	that's a couple questions here I got a
7343s	spoiler here I'll throw this up
7345s	uh here is
7349s	the update of something old that is now
7352s	new
7353s	uh in the meantime other than that uh I
7356s	found from my experience that pure melee
7359s	built apart from a select uh two or
7361s	three aren't that great is there any
7363s	thoughts of improving this going forward
7365s	I think there's actually a lot of really
7366s	good melee builds um
7369s	we try not to to look at it as a um
7372s	melee versus Range comparison
7375s	there he is look at that big boy yeah
7380s	um
7382s	we try to think of it as a really
7383s	restraining comparison we just like to
7384s	look at
7385s	um we're trying to get as many viable
7387s	builds as possible and as many varied
7389s	builds as possible things like that
7393s	uh there is a letter error since forever
7397s	in the last Epoch for Turkish players
7399s	even though the PC is English uh that
7402s	his capital
7403s	uh letter I shows in a different ugly
7406s	font oh that's frustrating for you sorry
7408s	about that
7410s	I didn't know that
7416s	uh yeah there is a fallback font in case
7418s	there's like a character that isn't used
7420s	that's really strange that it's that one
7422s	character
7424s	that does look like a different
7425s	character in here too
7430s	it's a copy into this
7435s	yeah that's a different character that's
7437s	not
7439s	crazy yeah we do not have support for
7442s	that character set
7444s	that's neat
7447s	uh thanks for previous answer you're
7449s	welcome I don't remember what it was for
7450s	how about the voice uh voice only
7452s	English or maybe other language I know
7454s	it's not the same budget yeah voices
7456s	will likely be English only for a long
7458s	time it might go to other languages but
7460s	I think the initially it'll start
7461s	English only
7465s	uh so this one looks better now will it
7467s	actually be scary and new damage it'll
7468s	just look prettier well it shows up in a
7470s	couple places it also shows up in
7472s	um
7473s	uh you fight hearten and the void worms
7476s	in that time Rift
7478s	[Music]
7479s	um
7480s	I think this was somewhere else too but
7482s	yeah I mean there's there's some
7484s	broader changes to uh
7490s	uh I think it reaches up to this point
7491s	in the campaign
7492s	coming eventually down the road you know
7494s	maybe it's it's I say how he says that
7496s	that's early section of the campaign is
7498s	feeling a little updated there we go
7500s	I should probably have specified
7502s	physical damage builds I feel physical
7504s	damage not looking at bleeds I was going
7507s	to say there's a lot of great bleed
7508s	builds uh melee builds are not quite as
7510s	strong as others yeah I mean there's
7512s	um once again we try not to look at it
7514s	as a like
7516s	are there enough of each element build
7518s	and then they kind of evolve as they go
7521s	um
7522s	physical melee builds hey maybe maybe
7526s	it's not enough
7528s	I don't know
7530s	uh I I don't there's no specific push
7533s	for specific categories of builds to
7535s	improve like that
7538s	all right
7540s	[Music]
7541s	that'll about do it for me today
7549s	I hope you had fun I know I did I'll be
7551s	here same time same place next week
7552s	answering questions uh playing more
7555s	terrible builds that I make instead of
7558s	stealing awesome builds from the
7559s	community like I usually do
7562s	um if you have any questions that I
7565s	didn't get to here I apologize if you
7566s	would like to have them answered please
7568s	head on over to last Epoch game no
7570s	that's wrong that's our website please
7572s	head over to our Discord
7573s	um you actually go to the website too
7574s	there's a forum there that we keep a
7576s	pretty close eye on
7578s	um
7580s	oh mute site oh it's close
7584s	um
7585s	yeah we're generally pretty we try and
7587s	answer as many of them as we can
7589s	um there's an ask the dev Channel at our
7590s	Discord as well I we're pretty pretty
7593s	darn active there
7595s	um
7601s	and I'm definitely not stalling for time
7604s	oh wait yes I am styling for time
7615s	um yeah there's uh sweet podcast
7617s	starting right now nine minutes ago that
7619s	uh we're gonna say hi to you
7622s	have a good everyone we'll see you next
7624s	time
7625s	good stream

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