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Patch 9.8:

R - GNAR! COOLDOWN 120/100/80 seconds ⇒ 90/60/30 seconds

So, Gnar just got his ult strongly buffed in all levels. Some would say that this buff is too big, but you need to remember it's also restrained by his ability to get his Mega Form. For the exact cooldown now, you wouldn't feel the difference between 30s and 40s on it, as the Mega lasts 15s and you get 15s cooldown as Mini before you start gaining fury again. You also still can't ult twice during one Mega duration (some people did math on that one, saying it's possible - however, to achieve it you need to take Cosmic Insight and Ultimate Hunter runes, where these trees aren't exactly the primary choice on Gnar).

Now, the point of this thread. I assume you all know how Sylas ult cooldown works, but I'll remind it anyway:

On-Target Cooldown: 200% of target's ultimate cooldown

So, lowering Gnar's ult cooldown works also for Sylas and he can use it more often. "Hey OP, but that works literally for every ult in the game" you might say, and you will be right. However, the Gnar's ultimate is allowed to be incredibly strong due to it being so heavily gated, as stated before. Fury management is really hard on him, but Sylas is free from these limitations (oh, the irony). This makes Gnar quite unpickable in you want to win vs Sylas in late game teamfights. I personally lost a few games that way and it was before the change. Now Sylas will be able to use that every 60 seconds, and that's without any CDR.

Me before patch 9.8.: don't pick Gnar when you see Sylas in enemy team.

Me after patch 9.8.: DON'T PICK GNAR WHEN YOU SEE SYLAS IN ENEMY TEAM, FOR LOVE OF GOD!!!

PS. The only other ult that is gated behind something other than simple cooldown/mana is Shyvana, but her ult isn't really game changing. I am also not sure how the cd interaction works on her.

PS2. Sylas first R is a point'n'click ability, not a skillshot. Stop flaming others for "being hit with it and not sidestepping". That's ridiculous.

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over 5 years ago - /u/RiotAugust - Direct link

HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DESIGN ULTIMATES WHEN SYLAS CAN JUST STEAL THEM!!!!1!

over 5 years ago - /u/RiotSquad5 - Direct link

Originally posted by RiotAugust

HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DESIGN ULTIMATES WHEN SYLAS CAN JUST STEAL THEM!!!!1!

He acts like this is a joke. People actually say this to me.

over 5 years ago - /u/RiotAugust - Direct link

Originally posted by RiotSquad5

He acts like this is a joke. People actually say this to me.

GNAR'S ULT IS A JOKE UNTIL SYLAS STEALS IT!!!!!1!