Originally posted by Cubic_Corvust

Note that Karthus' mana refund values are wrong on the post - it should be

20 / 27 / 34 / 41 / 48 -> 15 / 25 / 35 / 45 / 55 instead of

10 / 17 / 34 / 41 / 48 -> 15 / 25 / 35 / 45 / 55

Originally posted by ProEngineer3000

Holy f**k those buffs

OH GOD THAT TEEMO BUFF, I KNOW HE'S NOT EXACTLY GOOD BUT OH GOD

Edit: Would the health rune be worth taking now? I thought an early game buff would be better, so I'm not sure if this buff's that good

Originally posted by Right_Commission9820

If you dont mind could you give us any insight on the reason for lux being buffed? Seems like these are quite big buffs seemingly out of the blue.

Originally posted by MonstrousYi

Any idea when her skin will drop?

Originally posted by WolfAkela

No mention of those monstrous Teemo buffs yet? Longer blind, shorter CD, and more importantly almost double the Q middle speed?

Originally posted by our_last_moment

oh thank god crit viego buffs, maybe people will build shieldbow/kraken now over divine surrender

Originally posted by CarrotvsBrocclee

WHAT THE f**k ARE THOSE LUX BUFFS HOLY SHIT THAT IS HUGE

Originally posted by crazycalvin22

Finally an Akshan nerf. Rest in peace angel <3

Originally posted by arborcide

What's up with the Guardian nerf? Was it really that strong?

(I wonder if this change actually makes Omnistone Bard the right choice.)

Originally posted by SauloJr

Sion buffs are good tbh, considering you started Doran's Shield with no HP shard, you have 625 HP; 8% of 625 is 50, while 11% is 68.75.

18,75 hp more shield on W at level 1, almost double as the previous buff. I accept it.

The HP shard buffs are huge. At level 18 you'll have 373.8 gold worth of HP compared to the 120 gold worth of armor or 144 gold worth of MR (considering the numbers on the wiki)

Originally posted by Thothowaffle

How is she doing compared to Neeko? I know it is rude to ask for champions buffs directly but Neeko's playrate is lower then most midlaners with op.gg listing her as a lower playrate then Asol or Corki

Originally posted by homer12346

jungle teemo

Originally posted by OneTwoTrickFour

Alan234 Challenger Teemo EUW OTP here - If this goes through Teemo is absurdly broken. I'm down to discuss more here, also writing/complaining about it on Twitter a lot.

Summary: A very normal Teemo build is: Sorcs+Liandries+Cosmic Drive+Zhonya, thats 25+(10 mythic passive)+25+10=70 Ability Haste => so around 41% CDR

7 sec blind Q*(1-41%)=4.13sec Q

Enjoy being blinded for 3 seconds every 4.13 seconds without transcendence, cdr boots, other items or AH in runes!!

Originally posted by Exmerus

You have just been gigatrolled, sir. 😂

Originally posted by moody_P

hey can i ask how stride/gore cooldowns work with item haste? since they scale off of your champion's haste too, would the total haste just get added together for these two items?

Originally posted by OneTwoTrickFour

The fact that you just read my comment and are not concerned is concerning to me

Originally posted by FrostWareYT

Honestly, I think it’d be neat if you looked into shifting Teemo to the jungle role more.

Originally posted by OneTwoTrickFour

If you want to fulfill the fantasy of the "swift" scout you should maybe instead change the w to be more than a hamster wheel powering a wheelchair

But jokes off that's a somewhat reasonable response, but why do you have to power through three big changes at the same time x) A slight buff to Q is okay because it can be slightly underwhelming but that's just too much maaan

Originally posted by FlyingLotus_Beats

This man really just suggested QSS for a ~4 second ability.. Lord have mercy.

Originally posted by Thothowaffle

Thank you for the comment. I personally feel that she is struggling right now because glitches she has with her passive limits her abilities to make plays and builds. Any item with a visual inducator on it like GA or Banshees veil will show through her diguise. Like wise her passive also breaks if she copies Gnar, Kayle since she doesn't copy their auto ranges.

Originally posted by bns18js

Teemo should be quite powerful against autoattackers as the only true blind in the game and when the spell is limp and doesn't counter them too well then it's hardly filling its niche.

Something I always liked about league is that hard counters don't really exist. There are favorable and unfavorable match ups for laning and overall comp. But it feels like most of the game gameplay is the most important thing and you always have a chance.

This is in clear contrast to dota2, which does have hard counters where some champs are completely helpless against others. It makes pro game drafting interesting, since teams can draft around it as an organized unit. But it makes normal gameplay much worse, since people don't really draft accordingly and if you get counter picked you'll be suffering ALOT.

Is this really the direction we want to push league into? Imo its the wrong take. It's just gameplay very frustrating for everyone. And the resulting gain in "fantasy" and "pro drafting" simply not worth it.

Originally posted by bns18js

Ok appreciate the response. I'm glad you guys are at least monitoring it. I have always trusted numerical balancing by you guys 100%. You guys have done such an amazing job making champs reasonably good in both solo queue and competitive.

I was just afraid of the game play frustration part that might be possibly overlooked. We league players like league because it's league. No need to go the dota route :)

Originally posted by photographyraptr

But isn't that what playtesting is for? If a change COULD be oppressive shouldn't y'all be collecting sufficient data beforehand to decide if it's too oppressive to push to live? We saw the same thing with Galio Q and it feels awful to subject players on live to changes you aren't sure about just to shake up the game. This whole season has honestly felt like a failed test which is going to be so hard to recover from.

Originally posted by BrightNooblar

What is the break point where a "Early number down, late number up" change is a "Adjustment" and not a "Nerf"?

Are champion changes always approximated into buff/nerf vocabulary?

Originally posted by FrostWareYT

Oh also what would be the chances of Teemo getting changes to his kit similar to how he is in Wild rift? I have no idea if these would be good or bad for him/the game but I’m curious if you guys are considering something along those lines.

Originally posted by Mr_Simba

What about with Jinx? Happy to see these changes as a Jinx player but surprised to see such spicy buffs when her win rate seems good(?). Maybe the public data doesn’t match what you guys have internally though.