3x MSI
5x LPL Champion (2022 Spring, 2021 Spring, 2018 Summer, 2018 Spring, 2016 Spring)
9x LPL Playoffs Finalist
5x Worlds Appearance (3x Quarter, 1x Semis)
3x Demacia Cup
2017 LPL Summer MVP
5x LPL All-Pro (1st Team twice as top laner)
2x Rift Rivals (2017,2018)
62.3% Career Winrate, 4.5 KDA
How does he rank compared to the likes of Rookie, Mata, Deft? Though his peak is not as high as others, he is probably the most accomplished player not named Faker.
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Where do you think ming goes in then discussion for best support of all time.
Up there for sure. Top 3 easily imo. I haven’t given it much thought.
Imo the top 3 supports of all time are easily Ming, Meiko, and Mata. If you have time to think about it, how would you rank them? Before this year I always ranked Mata 1st, but by now I think Ming has claimed the top spot, and for Meiko even with his successful last year he still remains 3rd for me. What do you think?
I think a huge problem with all-time lists is they're too narratively driven.
Like how good are we going to consider, e.g. Madlife, who won almost nothing?
How low are we rating Bengi despite being there for virtually every SKT victory, but the LCK analysts kept saying he was bad? I'm not saying he's Faker level or anything but how much of our memory of him as a player is tainted by people just calling him bad even though he was always very good at Worlds/MSI?
IDK I don't generally want to get into specifics without spending considerable time on such a list.
Are you putting Ming below Xiaohu and if so who are you booting out for Xiaohu of Faker Mata Rookie Deft Uzi plus a bunch of others imo including Doinb if you are claiming Xiaohu is top 5.
Deft is likely not top 5. Mata and Rookie are debatable but again, haven't given it much thought.
The top 5 I'm somewhat confident in is Faker (duh), Uzi, Xiaohu.
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