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title and i know of course there are other factors that will dictate how well zeri gets to do but the drx v. dk and t1 v. gen games were just so frustrating to watch like. it’s almost boring to see how much agency a team can get just from having her and then she is absolutely unstoppable with a few items :)

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over 1 year ago - /u/PhreakRiot - Direct link

Originally posted by garbagecan1992

no way they ll gut enchanters there s a big niche of players that only play those characters

The initial goal for pro balance at MSI was roughly 2/3rd melee supports, 1/3 ranged.

Using MSI picks, we had:

  • 32 Rakan
  • 32 Lulu
  • 15 Thresh
  • 10 Braum
  • 9 Nami
  • 8 Nautilus
  • 8 Tahm Kench
  • 7 Leona
  • 6 Blitzcrank
  • 5 Annie

The list goes on with other 1-4 pick champions but the sum total result was 97 melee, 55 ranged. So we ended up hitting that pretty well. Of course, the refrain was that we were in an Aphelios Jinx meta, which was accurate in terms of picks. But it's funny that we really weren't in an enchanter meta, we were in a melee heavy one, and people still played largely immobile long range DPS marksmen.

Of course right now Milio and Yuumi are eating up a lot of pro presence so we're much more heavily ranged.

I'm pretty confident we can get enchanters into a spot where they're completely reasonable in solo queue for most players while returning to a 2:1 support ratio.

over 1 year ago - /u/PhreakRiot - Direct link

Originally posted by daswef2

I really feel like we're so close to getting there, it feels like Lulu Milio are collectively holding up pro enchanters, if Lulu drops enough I have to believe that's enough to shift perception even if Milio is still heavily banned. One annoying enchanter feels different than looking at picks and seeing enchanter vs enchanter often.

Also worth noting that Yuumi’s matchup tables are pretty enchanter favored. She has historically only shown up in pro play when it was already enchanter heavy. I’ve never seen Yuumi drive the pro meta, only respond to it.