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In the last 6 months I have seen 10s or close to hundreds of posts plague this subreddit with same sentiment of.

“I levelled an account to 30 and….” Or “My new account got placed in…” Or “‘New players’ are immediately…”

The small percentage of these people who are actually the players, and I mean SMALL percentage of players that are genuinely new to this game are very VERY likely to be placed in a lower rank especially now after the changes implemented to the placement system.

If you’re being placed in platinum or whatever after your fresh 30 botted account plays its first game in ranked consider yourself the problem.

If you hand levelled an account and pub stomped your way on a one champ only account to 30 to then queue up, why are you expecting to be placed lower. WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE PLACED LOWER?

Are you boosting your friends? Are you stroking your ego? Are you making content to do either of the those 2? Why?

I’m convinced that most of the players in plat 2 + (atleast in my server) are just alts. I’m not calling them smurfs because they’re hardstuck exactly where their main is.

/ rant.

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8 months ago - /u/phroxz0n - Direct link

I've seen 20 or so threads like this and I've yet to see a single person that plays normals before playing ranked who has been incorrectly placed after the change to fix those seeding issues (~early feb). We've also done some comprehensive data analysis on this.

Having said that, getting ARAM and bot games players in their first ranked games is a priority for us (it's currently not considered in seeding due to how different those modes are). It is not trivial to fix this for some reasons that aren't particularly relevant, so will take us some time, but we agree it's a problem.

The unfortunate reality is that there are about as many people who are alt accounts that are trying to ego boost themselves as there are new players that go through this ARAM/bot flow, which is why we haven't changed the initial starting injection point. We could move it, but we'd just be trading one issue for another (eg. why is there a 90% winrate player stomping their way through my silver games).

All this to say, we agree this is an issue.

8 months ago - /u/phroxz0n - Direct link

Originally posted by SpookyGhostDidIt

Have you ever considered a ~5 normal draft game minimum before queueing for ranked? I think it'd help the ARAM/bot gamers get placed more accurately






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