[2022] The Dive | The LCS is Free2Play vs. The Whales

Originally posted by chippyrim

I just wanna say to phreaks point about bjerg not playing much soloq on his main account. bjerg has said he played on a smurf account all year and double also said he was challenger because they played vs each other and double didnt know it was bjerg (this is what double said)

though another point, apperently bjerg was playing mainly jungle on his secret account

also it was stated on one of the tsm legends episode's, when bjerg was upset with the team because he had played more soloq than most of the team for the last few weeks

Originally posted by ObiBraum_Kenobi

Phreak's rant about the C9 roster being LS' friends while talking about C9 potentially failing just felt like a massive hate boner. Yes, C9 very much could fail for a multitude of issues. With that said, aside from Fudge, none of the projected five C9 starters (potentially six if you want to include Isles), are LS' friends. The accusation of it failing because LS' friends aren't good is nonsensical. Are the coaching staff and Malice his friends? Yeah, sure. But they aren't there with the intent of being played. They're there with the intent of being high level practice partners.

Reality is Berkserker is a mechanically talented adc who is top 50 in Korean challenger while also having amateur experience playing for T1, a team who has historically been extremely successful at scouting talent on the Korean ladder. He wasn't friends with LS prior to signing, he was just a talented prospect that they wanted to get a hold of young. Is there a risk he doesn't pan out? Sure. Is he a better gamble than any of the academy adcs in NA? History suggests he is.

You don't need to agree with all of LS' opinions on the game. Not everyone does. I certainly don't. Trying to paint a picture of the team potentially failing because "his friends aren't as good as he thinks they are" is some petty shit, and objectively completely irrelevant to the final construction of how the main LCS roster panned out.

Originally posted by ObiBraum_Kenobi

Come on now Phreak, watch the tape. 37:20. You literally called them "his Korean import friends", and then specified the entire project as encompassing what you were referring to. I'm not projecting anything. I'm taking your exact words, and questioning why you're saying them. I'm not disagreeing with your points about the difficulties faced by mixed language teams. I'm questioning your reference to his relationship with them as if it is any relevance to the conversation at hand, being the quality of their imports and if they are the next Seraphs.

Which, once again, it needs to be pointed out that he has stated in multiple different settings that he had no friendship to Berserker or Winsome prior to their being picked up by the team.

Edit: Nice edit there Phreak. We both know you originally said "I didn't call them LS' friends", not that the import friends line isn't the main point. 10/10 deflection, goal posts successfully moved.