[2020] Quests now not able to be completed in Friend matches?

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So just noticed today that Riot has apparently made the change to make quests not able to be completed in Friend matches. Since my quest was to complete a lab successfully I'm unsure if this new restriction applies to AI games as well? Sure this is a bug or something? I can't honestly believe that they'd make it so that you MUST play against random strangers to complete them? I mean, don't get me wrong, I will play Random at times, but not really that often. I don't enjoy playing random strangers who seem to nine times out of ten be playing the 'latest and greatest' deck from whatever streamer or site they got it from.

I enjoy playing with friends and playing absurd but fun decks and still making progress towards getting more cards because I am able to complete quests rather quickly (depending on the quest of course) if I need some onerous requirement, instead of having to struggle against randoms and all the issues involved with playing them (like having a quest to go deep but having people surrender or crush me before I can do so, playing 6+ cost spells but having players surrender or deny or crush me before I'm able to do so, etc).

Has there been any official word on whether or not this is actually a bug or an intended change? If it is an intended change, can't say that makes me too happy and makes me more likely to simply stop playing since my progress towards new cards will be essentially glacial without being able to complete quests reliably because I'll be forced to play randoms to do so.

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over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_AlphaLvSim - Direct link

Hey folks! Quest design owner here! Quests should still all be completable vs friends (except for queue specific ones that ask you to play a specific game mode) but we did make a change to how a few quests track progress.

Previously, any quest that checked the contents of your deck (quests like winning with a specific Region or specific card(s) in your deck) did so at the start of the game.

With the introduction of Labs, sometimes unusual things happen to your deck at the start of a game (fun fact: before you mulligan in ARAM, your deck is entirely composed of Champions!). To give Labs more space at the start of the game, those quests now check when you draw your first card of the game on Round 1.

So, if you were not getting quest progress and were snap surrendering during mulligan, that would be why. But, if you are seeing other quests not progress during Friend Challenge, please let me know, because otherwise quests should work the same as before!

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_AlphaLvSim - Direct link

Originally posted by Kyryck

How nice, a developer response! Thank you for taking the time to read and respond.

There may indeed be something going on then, because I believe the poster at the top said that his quest was "win with Shadow Isles" and that it didn't work during his friend match but it did against AI. I don't know if he played to the first round draws though, since he didn't post that.

I know that personally I had a friend yesterday try to do a quest where he had to win with Braum and we tried a surrender (he doesn't have a lot of Freljord cards and can't really make a good Braum deck) at the mulligan stage and it didn't give credit. We then tried to play a round each and then I surrendered again and it again did not give him credit for it.

I appreciate the response however and I will purposefully see about quests tonight again to collect further data and post if I encounter more difficulty completing the standard boilerplate quests while I'm playing with people I know (since you noted that queue specific quests are not completable in Friend mode).

Sure thing! "Win with Shadow Isles" is one of the quests touched by this change since it checks if your deck has Shadow Isles cards in it, but if Win with Braum also didn't work after playing a round that would be unexpected ^ ^ ;

over 4 years ago - /u/Riot_AlphaLvSim - Direct link

Originally posted by Kyryck

Hello again. So as an update, I played against two friends last night and we all completed quests after going to the first draw with zero issues. I also asked the one that had the Braum quest if he remembered if we went to the end of the first round and he said that we did indeed. I am unsure as to why precisely the Braum quest didn't complete that once, but although we didn't have that specific quest again we didn't have any issues this past day. I will forego posting again unless I encounter more difficulties or odd behaviors in quest completion.

On a similar note, thank you for taking the time to respond to my concern. While I was dispirited upon discovery of the issue, and was irritated with Riot for making things difficult, I am glad to be shown wrong and that it wasn't a change made to incentivize card purchases but rather a change as a result of the new game mode. My apologies for the quick resort to complaining on Reddit instead of collecting a couple of days of sample size before resorting to a complaint thread. I reiterate what I said in my post: you at Riot have made a game that sounds, looks, and plays beautifully. I will, in the future, ensure I conduct multiple days of sample collection before drawing conclusions on changes.

No worries, I appreciate you taking the time to reply! The internet can be a tough place, and I can understand your skepticism. Thanks for taking the time to ask questions and learn <3

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