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| 3s | hello welcome everyone to the live |
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| 6s | stream it's been a hot minute since I've |
| 9s | been on so this is uh actually quite |
| 11s | nerve-wracking I'm nervous for the first |
| 13s | time in ages coming on to the stream but |
| 15s | yeah how are you doing Karen I am great |
| 18s | actually really looking forward to this |
| 20s | I can't believe you're nervous it's on |
| 22s | so un like you to be nervous for stuff |
| 24s | like this I know I started to get real |
| 25s | sweaty as well it's it's not a good time |
| 27s | but it's fine I'm with you the king |
| 29s | Kieran to go over what will be a stream |
| 33s | focusing on Project rebalance as well as |
| 36s | some information around the Coliseum |
| 38s | specifically coming from volore Part One |
| 40s | release um so yeah we did recently |
| 43s | release the second blog regarding the |
| 46s | project rebalance the first one was |
| 47s | about Skilling this one is around MPC |
| 50s | defense changes today we're going to |
| 52s | discuss the reasons for the proposed |
| 54s | changes as well as thoughts that went |
| 55s | into them but we're obviously not |
| 57s | limited to just that as I mentioned we |
| 59s | are going to be talking about the |
| 60s | Coliseum and we are here to answer all |
| 62s | your questions about the game in general |
| 64s | so if you have any please at Old School |
| 66s | RS the mods will be collecting them and |
| 68s | we'll do our best to go over them if |
| 70s | there is time but we do have a lot to go |
| 72s | over now a quick heads up we are aware |
| 75s | of ongoing issues with the ranged combat |
| 77s | in the beta Worlds at the moment we're |
| 80s | hoping to deploy a fix for those |
| 82s | tomorrow and as a result we'll extend |
| 84s | the beta into next week but if you don't |
| 86s | have a chance to participate don't worry |
| 89s | because the next batch of project |
| 90s | rebalance proposals which will be around |
| 92s | item changes will feature an open Beta |
| 95s | as well so those changes will also |
| 98s | coincide with the NPC defense changes so |
| 100s | you get to try both out at once so not |
| 102s | too uh not too much of a panic anyway um |
| 106s | right let's go over some announcements |
| 107s | and then I'm going to stop speak |
| 109s | actually I'm not going to speak speak |
| 110s | stop speaking I've got a whole bunch to |
| 111s | go over quickly before I do but anyway |
| 113s | announcement time so exclamation about |
| 115s | rebalance if you haven't seen it already |
| 117s | this is a link to the project rebalance |
| 119s | blog which focuses on MPC defense |
| 121s | changes is what we'll be talking about |
| 122s | today it includes things like new Range |
| 125s | defense types Elemental weaknesses and |
| 126s | scaling as well as information on the |
| 128s | open beta and a few more things |
| 131s | exclamation mark video If you can't be |
| 133s | bothered to read and you'd rather just |
| 134s | listen or watch something on YouTube |
| 136s | while you're afking soic on the side on |
| 137s | RuneScape then exclamation mark video is |
| 140s | the one for you we partnered with coxy |
| 142s | to go over an explainer on how project |
| 144s | rebalance with NPC defense changes works |
| 146s | so check that out with exclamation mark |
| 148s | video and then lastly exclamation mark |
| 151s | game update which is picking up from |
| 153s | where we left off we're back with more |
| 154s | improvements to volore part one we |
| 156s | release drop rates for perilous moons as |
| 158s | well as the Coliseum and there are a few |
| 160s | tweaks in there speaking of tweaks I |
| 162s | believe that modani is in the process of |
| 164s | updating that game update news post to |
| 166s | let you know what's due to be changing |
| 169s | in what will hopefully be next week |
| 171s | can't promise absolutely everything |
| 172s | though but we do have a bunch of |
| 174s | Coliseum specific changes um to make and |
| 177s | I'm going to quickly fire through these |
| 179s | now remember they will be in the News |
| 181s | Post so don't worry about writing them |
| 183s | down all on a notepad unless you really |
| 184s | want that Karma early on Reddit but |
| 186s | let's talk about bees first they'll be |
| 188s | given a longer delay before they respawn |
| 191s | as well as a longer delay before they |
| 192s | move to the next tile and the visibility |
| 195s | of them will be improved so all round a |
| 197s | bit of a a be Improvement there talking |
| 199s | of Doom there will now be three tiers of |
| 202s | Doom each tier will allow you to take up |
| 204s | to 15 10 or five Stacks respectively |
| 207s | before meeting your end Doom will now |
| 210s | reset back to zero Stacks at the end of |
| 212s | each wave and we're removing the soul |
| 215s | Reaper Axe and divine potion effects |
| 217s | from adding to stacks of Doom as well so |
| 219s | it should make it a little bit nicer to |
| 221s | use as for myopia we'll be removing the |
| 225s | ability to AutoCast spells without being |
| 227s | affected but you'll still be able to |
| 229s | manually cast with that modifier active |
| 231s | on there uh then there is Relentless |
| 235s | we're going to be changing how the |
| 236s | additional accuracy is applied to |
| 238s | monster Hits stack one will ignore 33% |
| 241s | of your defense stack two ignores 66% of |
| 244s | the defense and then stack three ignores |
| 246s | all of the defense all of the additional |
| 248s | damage per stack is left unchanged for |
| 251s | totemic we'll be increasing the cool |
| 252s | down before respawning a new totem if |
| 255s | the first is killed and the amount of |
| 257s | healing will be reduced overall so nice |
| 259s | little change there Doom scorpion is |
| 261s | being removed even though they'll be |
| 263s | removed we'll put them somewhere that |
| 265s | you can visit them in game if you really |
| 266s | want to go find that cute little death |
| 268s | scorpion uh there's a new uh modifier |
| 270s | that's going to be added called manty |
| 272s | Mayhem Manticore orbs attacks will |
| 275s | become stronger each time this is chosen |
| 278s | so there'll be three tiers of it the |
| 279s | orbit attacks will become stronger with |
| 281s | each tier that you progressively choose |
| 283s | so it makes missing your flicks more |
| 285s | punishing but it doesn't change how many |
| 287s | times that you would need to flick |
| 289s | essentially if you're really good at |
| 290s | changing prayers then this is a pretty |
| 292s | easy pickup for you I think um and now |
| 295s | let's talk about drop rates Sunfire |
| 297s | fanatic pieces and Echo crystals uh |
| 300s | they'll be obtained from completing wave |
| 302s | three onwards as opposed to wave six |
| 304s | onwards and will be made more common and |
| 307s | for Unique improvements there's a few |
| 309s | here so get ready in regards to Echo |
| 311s | crystals Guardian boots will be |
| 313s | permanently converted to Echo boots when |
| 315s | you use a crystal on them so you don't |
| 317s | have to worry about what it was before |
| 320s | uh you can have they'll be adding a |
| 321s | toggle so that you can turn the effect |
| 323s | on or off so you can decide when you |
| 325s | want to use charges and when you don't |
| 327s | uh Echo crystals will give more charges |
| 329s | I think we go with 6,000 up from |
| 332s | 25,000 and the boots themselves will be |
| 334s | able to hold 30,000 charges up from |
| 338s | 10,000 and then lastly we'll be |
| 340s | increasing the ALK price of the crystals |
| 342s | just to more correctly reflect their |
| 345s | actual value um for the |
| 348s | tonal tonal Tis of Ros um oh sorry there |
| 352s | is live editing the echo boots will hold |
| 355s | apparently 60,000 charges yes 60,000 |
| 359s | charges not 30,000 so a whole load more |
| 361s | charges then that's 600 times the amount |
| 365s | more than before six times the amount |
| 368s | sorry live mathematics has gone |
| 372s | wrong there's a reason why I do words |
| 374s | and not math um so for the the tonel |
| 377s | ticks the the glaes um we'll be removing |
| 380s | the 50% cap on Dam on defense reduction |
| 384s | from its special attack and also |
| 385s | increase in the out price there are a |
| 387s | few Keen ey among you that were using it |
| 389s | uh when it was first release and it |
| 390s | actually worked this way so that it |
| 392s | could reduce the defense down to uh well |
| 394s | whatever it was past 50% cap some people |
| 396s | used it for speedr running things like |
| 398s | TB and stuff uh but that was a bug it |
| 400s | wasn't intended it's not how we |
| 401s | originally described it but we're going |
| 402s | to be putting that back because it seems |
| 404s | like quite a nice change to just up the |
| 406s | usability of the item and then lastly |
| 408s | for uh designer's quiver uh we are going |
| 412s | to be redesigning it to look much more |
| 414s | in line with feedback and you'll be able |
| 415s | to see the updated designs in the News |
| 418s | Post okay there's me done whole other of |
| 422s | changes how do you think how do you feel |
| 423s | about the Coliseum overall Kieran I'm |
| 426s | glad you should just take a breath a |
| 428s | breather from that bre of information um |
| 433s | the first thing I think I want to talk |
| 434s | about is just quickly on the Sunfire the |
| 436s | the prayer gear um a lot of people have |
| 439s | seen bringing up the point in like early |
| 441s | blogs we talked about how the prayer |
| 442s | gear would be available from the early |
| 444s | waves and just be more accessible than |
| 446s | the other rewards and |
| 447s | stuff to some extent I think we just |
| 449s | have to hold on our hands up and we let |
| 451s | that slip and put it in a place where |
| 453s | which didn't really deliver on what we |
| 454s | said that's obviously part of why we've |
| 457s | changed it and ultimately by talking |
| 459s | about the drop rate information it's |
| 461s | allowed players to to give us that |
| 463s | feedback which we're now |
| 465s | adjusting there's also still more Nuance |
| 468s | to that but I don't want to go too deep |
| 470s | with that but |
| 471s | like it things change a lot through |
| 473s | development early on in development wave |
| 476s | six might not have been perceived to be |
| 477s | as hard as it ended up being and so on |
| 479s | this so many factors that that go into |
| 481s | why these things happen it's not just |
| 483s | necessarily malpractice or or |
| 486s | whatever or bad intent so to speak um |
| 491s | there's obviously been a lot of feedback |
| 492s | over the Coliseum as a whole and I think |
| 493s | a lot of it obviously been around |
| 495s | modifiers I think one thing we could |
| 497s | have probably done better is tell people |
| 500s | a bit earlier that we were going to be |
| 501s | making changes I think we've had so much |
| 504s | feedback to deal with with farore that |
| 506s | ultimately it's just a case of we |
| 508s | haven't necessarily got to all of it |
| 510s | just yet but we knew pretty soon on that |
| 513s | modifiers were going to need adjusting |
| 514s | and it's not like we've been ignoring |
| 516s | the feedback it's just now has been the |
| 518s | time we've got to it and based on what I |
| 521s | saw in the chat when you were reading |
| 522s | through them it seems like most people |
| 525s | are receiving these modifier tweaks |
| 528s | quite positively but obviously keep that |
| 530s | feedback coming when you see the news |
| 531s | post and we'll adjust them to to act |
| 534s | fairly for the |
| 535s | content as a |
| 538s | whole I feel like there's some learnings |
| 540s | we've got from from the |
| 543s | Coliseum and I think even when you go |
| 545s | back and look at like tombs of a |
| 547s | masket that modifiers |
| 550s | invocations I just don't feel like have |
| 553s | worked as well as we might have hoped |
| 555s | that's not to say we're going to go and |
| 557s | rip them out and completely redo the |
| 559s | content or anything like that because |
| 560s | that would be way too excessive these |
| 562s | pieces of content now exist and that's |
| 564s | going to be awesome it makes them unique |
| 566s | but it has been quite challenging to get |
| 570s | them as right as possible um we wanted |
| 572s | to have a whole risk versus reward |
| 574s | element right you know take the more |
| 576s | dangerous um modifier in exchange for |
| 579s | more Glory but Glory probably isn't in |
| 582s | serious and important enough to justify |
| 584s | that either and then it's all kind of in |
| 586s | in conflict with this idea that you've |
| 588s | got beat it once get the quiver and move |
| 590s | on and lots of people will just play it |
| 592s | like that not everyone's going to want |
| 593s | to grind it so I there's a few ideas in |
| 597s | conflict that has meant some of the |
| 600s | concepts haven't quite delivered on |
| 601s | maybe what we would have hoped for them |
| 603s | but we've learned a lot of this there |
| 606s | it's not the last time we'll do an |
| 608s | endgame challenge like this and I think |
| 611s | a lot of this sort of thinking is |
| 614s | already in our minds for what we do in |
| 616s | the future the next opportunity we do |
| 618s | with something like |
| 621s | this well thank you so much for the |
| 623s | inside K and that was way more in depth |
| 625s | than I was at least anticipating I I |
| 628s | think it's important to say as well that |
| 629s | you know that the Coliseum is good |
| 631s | content You know despite everything |
| 632s | you've just said there it's still |
| 633s | fantastic content people are still |
| 634s | really happy with it overall obviously |
| 637s | there are feedback changes that we look |
| 638s | to look to make but to be able to come |
| 641s | away from a really solid piece of |
| 643s | content going out and still have |
| 644s | learnings and things that we can take |
| 646s | away to improve on in the future is uh I |
| 649s | think it's just a really good point |
| 650s | because it's just makes it makes me |
| 652s | personally excited for what can come |
| 654s | after this what what can be better than |
| 656s | that now that we've you know done this |
| 657s | so many times I say so many twice a and |
| 660s | Coliseum what is the next kind of like |
| 662s | modifier system looking like if any so |
| 665s | super cool okay um let's go over to |
| 669s | project rebalance then which will be the |
| 671s | next part of the stream um Kieran do you |
| 674s | want to maybe give us some insight into |
| 676s | the background and motivation for things |
| 677s | like the defense change |
| 680s | stuff so |
| 683s | overall what we're trying to do is |
| 685s | create more space for for rewards make |
| 688s | existing gear that maybe is as useful as |
| 690s | it could be more useful Etc essentially |
| 694s | I mean this speaks to the whole wider |
| 696s | ambition with rebalances what have we |
| 698s | already got that we can just improve by |
| 700s | just changing some numbers not |
| 701s | necessarily stuff that's going to be |
| 702s | really expensive and time consuming |
| 705s | where we're doing a full rework or |
| 706s | something but just looking at what we |
| 708s | have and tweaking so one of the problems |
| 713s | with with with this game we've talked |
| 716s | about it so many times is power creep |
| 720s | it's one of people's favorite buzzwords |
| 722s | and things to talk |
| 723s | about but ultimately new content needs |
| 726s | new rewards players love to tell us they |
| 729s | want a new raid players want new bosses |
| 731s | they want new |
| 733s | content but it also needs to come with a |
| 735s | reward that justifies the the challenge |
| 737s | that encounter gives you otherwise at |
| 739s | the end of the day no one will play it |
| 741s | certainly won't play it very long so how |
| 744s | do we keep up com keep on coming up with |
| 746s | new meaningful rewards without just |
| 749s | suddenly being at like tier 95 weapons |
| 751s | in a few years we need more space um and |
| 755s | Mele is pretty good at that for instance |
| 757s | so M's got slashed St crush this seemed |
| 761s | like an opportunity what more can we do |
| 762s | to spread out the utility of different |
| 764s | items within ranged within magic |
| 768s | and by the nature of the changes which |
| 770s | obviously we'll go into more detail and |
| 772s | with with more questions soon but like |
| 774s | splitting up range defenses targeting |
| 776s | the elemental spell book we're we able |
| 779s | to Target elements of range and Magic |
| 782s | that currently are massively |
| 784s | underutilized with |
| 786s | melee so many times you can just get by |
| 788s | by using a whip for |
| 790s | everything it's nice now that actually |
| 792s | you'll feel a little bit more rewarded |
| 794s | for paying a bit more attention and and |
| 796s | taking a bludgeon or something like that |
| 799s | so really we're viewing these as they |
| 802s | should be longterm beneficial changes |
| 805s | for future projects for the existing |
| 807s | game and it is all with that just |
| 810s | long-term health of the game in mind um |
| 814s | I do appreciate some of this stuff can |
| 815s | sound a little scary when we're changing |
| 817s | quite a lot of numbers on different |
| 819s | existing creatures but it is with that |
| 824s | intent awesome thanks Kieran I think one |
| 826s | thing that's just worth pointing out |
| 828s | early on as well is that I saw a lot of |
| 830s | people commenting when it came to the |
| 832s | extra variety you know having to relearn |
| 834s | the game and that really just isn't what |
| 837s | we're aiming for here right you should |
| 839s | still able to carry on playing old |
| 841s | school the exact same way that you do |
| 843s | now and literally notice no if well if |
| 846s | any difference at all um virtually |
| 848s | nonone it your experience should be |
| 850s | pretty much the exact same as it was |
| 851s | before it's just that say for example if |
| 854s | you were at gargo and you're whipping |
| 856s | them before you can carry on whipping |
| 857s | them and you're still going to kill them |
| 858s | just as fast but might just be as good |
| 860s | or just a bit better to use a crush |
| 862s | weapon which is what they're meant to be |
| 863s | weak against the intention isn't to make |
| 865s | you relearn the entire game it is just |
| 866s | to open up more opportunities for us in |
| 869s | the future as opposed to just going back |
| 872s | and and revamping everything that's been |
| 874s | out in the past so I really like the |
| 877s | motivation for it I think that it's |
| 878s | actually a really solid set of changes |
| 880s | when it was first proposed to us the |
| 882s | project rebalance to kind of like |
| 883s | communicate it to the players I was |
| 884s | absolutely terrified because it did just |
| 887s | seem like you know the previous project |
| 888s | rebalance we did um took quite a while |
| 891s | to get into the favor of players enough |
| 894s | for us to be able to release it where as |
| 895s | soon as I saw the design I knew that |
| 897s | this one was going to be so easy to kind |
| 898s | of like just put out there and just let |
| 901s | people experience it see what it's like |
| 903s | and have a lot of change for the future |
| 906s | um we do have a whole bunch of questions |
| 908s | that I want to go through I think you |
| 910s | covered over kind of like what the the |
| 912s | vision or long-term plan for how they |
| 914s | might alter reward space and stuff as |
| 916s | well as the motivation so let's talk |
| 919s | about first of all a question around |
| 921s | Elemental weaknesses so we have NPCs |
| 923s | that will be weak to fire water and |
| 925s | Earth what about |
| 928s | air so first the reason that there's |
| 931s | none with air currently is that we felt |
| 934s | the benefit of air is that it's the |
| 936s | cheap option where there's no Elemental |
| 939s | weakness it will be definitively the |
| 940s | best because it costs you less to |
| 943s | use |
| 945s | but we maybe just we discussed it |
| 947s | earlier and we feel like it's maybe a |
| 948s | bit of a hard line to take there's no |
| 950s | reason why we can't have stuff that's |
| 951s | got air weaknesses so we certainly will |
| 954s | um and things like ghosts come to mind |
| 956s | as a good option but we probably won't |
| 960s | have as many weaknesses with air as we |
| 962s | do with the more slightly more expensive |
| 964s | spells it's not exactly a colossal |
| 966s | difference either right you're talking a |
| 968s | few extra Elemental runes and they don't |
| 970s | cost much and that's if you're not using |
| 972s | you know something that conserves runes |
| 975s | for |
| 976s | you sure would I mean would there be a |
| 979s | possibility that there could be dual uh |
| 981s | weaknesses so that there could be like |
| 982s | 10% air but 20% |
| 985s | water so it still has some effect but |
| 988s | you know there is still progression for |
| 989s | you having different |
| 991s | spells not currently at the minute um I |
| 995s | wouldn't necessarily say we should rule |
| 996s | that out because that might well be |
| 999s | suitable um but obviously in many cases |
| 1001s | it's really obvious right an ice giant |
| 1003s | is going to be weak to fire um or a fire |
| 1005s | Elemental should be weak to water right |
| 1007s | these are so intrinsically obvious and I |
| 1009s | do want it to try and be as simple as |
| 1011s | possible obviously no one really carries |
| 1014s | monster examin around right most people |
| 1016s | go to the wiki and see somebody else has |
| 1018s | already monster examined and put the |
| 1019s | info there but how can we mitigate that |
| 1023s | right you should be able to see a |
| 1024s | monster and just have a good guess at |
| 1026s | probably what it is so he wants to be as |
| 1029s | obvious as possible um and as simple as |
| 1032s | possible the more complex we get with |
| 1034s | multiple weaknesses maybe that doesn't |
| 1036s | help with that but yeah I don't want to |
| 1038s | draw a line and say we'll never do it |
| 1040s | cool all right that makes sense thank |
| 1042s | you for answering um what about the |
| 1045s | delay on the standard spell book when |
| 1047s | autoc casting and moving will anything |
| 1049s | happen to |
| 1052s | that um so we have already said this is |
| 1057s | technically part of a future blog for |
| 1059s | rebalance with other tweaks but I think |
| 1061s | we can already say Yes um we will we |
| 1065s | will be tweaking this um so that there |
| 1067s | will be no delay on autoc casting as |
| 1070s | it's realistically it's really holding |
| 1072s | back essentially the core of magic right |
| 1075s | if you're using actual spells it just |
| 1077s | hurts you |
| 1078s | needlessly |
| 1080s | that's our thoughts |
| 1082s | anyway cool thank you appreciate that um |
| 1086s | all right this is a longer question |
| 1089s | maybe a quick answer instead of having |
| 1091s | each individual Dragon having its own |
| 1093s | random Elemental weakness why not have |
| 1095s | them be consistent make all metal |
| 1097s | dragons weak to Earth and all chromatic |
| 1100s | dragons weak to water that way it's |
| 1102s | intuitive and easy to |
| 1105s | remember this is the plan uh I think |
| 1108s | we've just made a mistake somewhere and |
| 1110s | essentially the answer is metal dragons |
| 1114s | will be weak to Earth chromatic dragons |
| 1116s | will be weak to water so it will be e |
| 1120s | you know obviously it's not all dragons |
| 1122s | are weak to the same but each type of |
| 1124s | dragon will be having the same |
| 1128s | weakness nice makes sense thank you uh |
| 1131s | is there a good reason to make the def |
| 1133s | hold on apparently I'm forgetting how to |
| 1135s | speak is there a good reason to make the |
| 1137s | defense type based on ammo and not the |
| 1139s | weapon itself seeing as the type of |
| 1142s | weapon and the type of ammo are heavily |
| 1144s | tied |
| 1147s | together |
| 1149s | um so our thoughts on this is it's |
| 1151s | basically the same thing um in basically |
| 1154s | every case the ammo type is restricted |
| 1157s | based on the weapon so like bows will |
| 1160s | always |
| 1161s | use um arrows for instance so there's |
| 1163s | obviously some crossover we have talked |
| 1166s | a little bit about some exceptions and |
| 1169s | we we we feel like we're settling on |
| 1171s | we've made the right call but for |
| 1173s | instance like long bows should long bows |
| 1175s | fire arrows but with heavy waiting |
| 1177s | rather than standard for instance that |
| 1180s | might be one example and we we ran with |
| 1183s | that idea a little bit earlier but |
| 1184s | ultimately just come to the conclusion |
| 1185s | that it leads to confusion is Twisted |
| 1188s | bow a heavy a heavy bow um what about |
| 1192s | other others it pris bow is probably |
| 1195s | more like a long bow than a short bow |
| 1196s | but we do want that to be linked to |
| 1199s | standard and not heavy so it leads to |
| 1202s | different issues um so we feel quite |
| 1205s | happy with the way we're going um it's |
| 1207s | not to say we can't have mechanics that |
| 1209s | interact with this in future though but |
| 1211s | for |
| 1212s | now pretty straightforward and simple |
| 1215s | you know your bolts javelins and so on |
| 1218s | will be heavy your arrows will be |
| 1221s | standard and things like DS will be |
| 1223s | light so that's really where we're going |
| 1226s | with it um we're quite happy with that |
| 1228s | and plan to stick with them |
| 1232s | awesome thank you simple is uh pretty |
| 1234s | much always better especially in old |
| 1236s | school so thanks Kieran um are we |
| 1239s | planning to adjust more existing NPCs |
| 1242s | down the line or are we just setting the |
| 1243s | scene for future |
| 1247s | stuff so we've obviously done not |
| 1249s | everything in the game when in if you if |
| 1252s | anybody actually goes and looks at the |
| 1253s | full spreadsheet we haven't exactly |
| 1254s | listed every single creature but we have |
| 1257s | tried to Target all the main stuff the |
| 1259s | things you're likely to fight quite |
| 1260s | often on Slayer tasks and pvm and so on |
| 1263s | we haven't quite gone to everything we |
| 1265s | did feel it was safer to start with |
| 1268s | probably a small a smaller set and make |
| 1270s | sure we get this right before we go out |
| 1272s | and do a future batch but we might well |
| 1275s | go into a future batch based on how this |
| 1277s | goes we're unlikely to be adjusting them |
| 1279s | willy-nilly week by week and you're not |
| 1281s | going to just see News Post constantly |
| 1282s | with things changing because like you |
| 1285s | said you were nervous about this I was |
| 1287s | nervous about this I think it is quite |
| 1289s | scary we've all played this game for |
| 1292s | years and |
| 1294s | years and this can contend with your |
| 1296s | existing knowledge at least that's how |
| 1298s | it feels like it feels like it can do |
| 1300s | that nor do I want something that |
| 1302s | changes this week to change again in |
| 1304s | another couple of weeks and and so on |
| 1306s | whilst the core weaknesses with like |
| 1309s | Crush stab and slash aren't necessarily |
| 1311s | changing a huge amount what we are |
| 1313s | introducing is all of a sudden now you |
| 1315s | need to probably learn what Elemental |
| 1316s | weaknesses things have and you need to |
| 1318s | learn what um Range type weakness it has |
| 1321s | this is this is new information so |
| 1323s | there's a bunch of stuff that you're |
| 1325s | going to have to get to grips with |
| 1327s | nothing's |
| 1328s | exactly a massive cognitive burden |
| 1330s | though it's nothing different to what |
| 1332s | you've already come across with with um |
| 1335s | like stab slash and |
| 1336s | Crush um but yeah we don't want to make |
| 1339s | it an ongoing fiester of change because |
| 1343s | we know that comes with a burden |
| 1346s | cognitively so what you'd expect from |
| 1348s | probably is this first batch to go out |
| 1351s | and there might be a couple of creatures |
| 1352s | you're not happy with we might tweak |
| 1354s | obviously tweak those in coming in the |
| 1355s | week or two following that launch but |
| 1358s | longterm maybe another batch and similar |
| 1361s | with that but we're not going to be |
| 1362s | changing things constantly and |
| 1367s | tinkering awesome makes sense thank you |
| 1370s | would the would you think there would be |
| 1371s | a time though where for example the like |
| 1373s | the first batch that we do does cover |
| 1375s | quite a wide range of NPCs so you said |
| 1376s | not all of them would we be looking to |
| 1378s | then |
| 1379s | add more NPCs down the line in further |
| 1382s | batches to have different weaknesses and |
| 1384s | such so that eventually is the aim so |
| 1386s | that every NPC in the entire game is |
| 1390s | covered so yeah I mean that's there's a |
| 1394s | distinction right between being covered |
| 1397s | or being changed because sometimes we |
| 1399s | might not want to change it we might be |
| 1401s | content with it having no specific |
| 1403s | weakness or no specific Elemental |
| 1405s | weakness and that's fine so in many |
| 1407s | cases that might be the we've |
| 1409s | intentionally made um there's plenty of |
| 1413s | things that exist in the game that have |
| 1415s | zero stab defense zero Crush defense |
| 1417s | zero slash they're equivalently weak to |
| 1419s | all of them I would very much expect |
| 1421s | similar with elemental weaknesses with |
| 1425s | range weaknesses and so on so yeah um |
| 1430s | it's not like you're going to see every |
| 1431s | single creature change in some |
| 1434s | capacity brilliant thank you I |
| 1436s | appreciate the info next question |
| 1438s | question is around the toms and uh |
| 1442s | someone has asked instead of nerfing the |
| 1444s | toms of fire and water why not also add |
| 1446s | a to of air and Earth make all of them |
| 1448s | simply buff that particular element and |
| 1451s | move the curse buff from the to of water |
| 1452s | somewhere |
| 1454s | else |
| 1456s | so we probably will do a tomb of air and |
| 1459s | Earth at some stage not with the |
| 1462s | rebalance project but I'm sure we'll |
| 1464s | find space and opportunities to add them |
| 1467s | but that doesn't mean we don't want to |
| 1469s | Nerf them the reason we want to Nerf it |
| 1472s | is because we're buffing the elemental |
| 1473s | Spellbook in this weakness fashion and |
| 1477s | we none of us liked the fact if you |
| 1479s | wanted to do any decent damage with the |
| 1481s | elemental spell book you have to use the |
| 1483s | to of fire otherwise it's going to be |
| 1485s | rubbish this makes it a bit more |
| 1487s | balanced it's less dependent on one |
| 1489s | specific item and it means other offhand |
| 1492s | magic items can be useful to you |
| 1495s | still obviously the to of fire is still |
| 1497s | decent it's it's not like we're making |
| 1500s | it completely useless but currently it's |
| 1503s | to do fire damage you're completely |
| 1505s | dependent on ter of fire and that's not |
| 1510s | right to be honest that kind of Mak the |
| 1513s | reason it was done originally is because |
| 1514s | we knew the elemental spell because is |
| 1516s | weak yeah I was remember it coming out |
| 1519s | was like it was just a really easy way |
| 1521s | to fix the problem but obviously it was |
| 1524s | a it was a Band-Aid fix right when you |
| 1526s | look at it holistically the bigger |
| 1527s | picture in mind as a opposed to what |
| 1529s | this is which is a a much more |
| 1532s | widespread fixing the problem at its |
| 1536s | route all right well we move on to the |
| 1538s | next question um someone is asking |
| 1540s | around uh ranged weapons like Throne |
| 1543s | axes ballista or long bows essentially |
| 1546s | weapons without many widespread pvm uses |
| 1549s | uh how do they slot into the |
| 1552s | proposal so long bows I think we might |
| 1555s | do a stat pass so if anyone's familiar |
| 1559s | with them right now obviously they are |
| 1561s | utterly utterly useless you get the |
| 1564s | longer range maybe this's the odd Niche |
| 1567s | case where that's useful but by and |
| 1569s | large they hit way slower than a short |
| 1572s | bow yet have |
| 1574s | stats I think are they exactly the same |
| 1577s | if not marginally higher it's irrelevant |
| 1581s | basically we're going to buff their |
| 1583s | stats it's not necessarily going to mean |
| 1584s | suddenly you're debating between the |
| 1586s | magic short bow and the magic Longbow to |
| 1588s | which you'll use |
| 1590s | but it will feel at least like it makes |
| 1592s | a bit more sense um we're not going to |
| 1594s | offer that suddenly it's going to be |
| 1596s | meta in terms of spots um that's |
| 1599s | slightly different to the range weakness |
| 1601s | side they'll be shooting arrows it'll be |
| 1602s | standard |
| 1603s | ammo |
| 1605s | ballista we realized they're a bit |
| 1607s | rubbish in pvm um obviously they were |
| 1610s | originally designed like that really to |
| 1612s | be primarily PVP weapons so right now |
| 1615s | there will be heavy weapons that's that |
| 1618s | fits for for |
| 1619s | them but this defense change helps with |
| 1624s | this problem so like whilst it might not |
| 1626s | be the case that today or after this |
| 1627s | update that bista suddenly really fall |
| 1630s | in pvm if in future we make a boss |
| 1633s | that's particularly weak to heavy ranged |
| 1635s | Weaponry at least ballista might start |
| 1637s | being a valid option and currently we |
| 1639s | don't really have the tools as |
| 1641s | designers to make that even a viable |
| 1645s | option next is a good |
| 1647s | example um obviously for anybody |
| 1649s | familiar with what NEX was originally in |
| 1652s | 2011 and obviously we had that in mind |
| 1654s | when we were ping it to to old school is |
| 1657s | most people did it with crossbows back |
| 1660s | then that's not necessarily the meta |
| 1662s | strategy with with NEX in old school and |
| 1665s | we didn't really have the the tools to |
| 1667s | balance it to be that way because we |
| 1670s | lacked this this sort of um this sort of |
| 1673s | way to balance balance a balance an |
| 1676s | encounter throwing X's |
| 1679s | oh they're so trash we don't exactly |
| 1682s | know where they fit yet but we probably |
| 1685s | are looking at this as we can't fix |
| 1687s | every single problem with this we'll |
| 1690s | have to think about thring x's in future |
| 1692s | I don't think we're going to look to do |
| 1693s | anything with them just yet I did kind |
| 1696s | of joke that maybe they need a blowpipe |
| 1697s | for throwing |
| 1698s | X's don't know what that could look like |
| 1701s | not a blowpipe imagine some sort of like |
| 1703s | Mecca arm and you just throw them really |
| 1705s | hard or something I don't |
| 1706s | know meca arm arm F right my head went |
| 1712s | toes something similar to the cannon but |
| 1713s | instead of cannon balls you put Throne |
| 1714s | axes in there and it like flies them out |
| 1716s | it's extremely dangerous you're going in |
| 1718s | with the Dwarven Tech mechanical armor |
| 1721s | Dwarven Tech Armor absolutely no I don't |
| 1723s | know I'm just joking but throwing xes |
| 1725s | are so useless obviously we all need to |
| 1728s | think bigger about how they fit their |
| 1730s | stats obviously we could just adjust |
| 1732s | their stats but I'm still not convinced |
| 1734s | that I'll solve them they're so slow |
| 1737s | um their only meta is to get you into |
| 1740s | DEC that's that's been the case for a |
| 1742s | long time used the dragon axes they get |
| 1746s | used a little bit of PVP for some convos |
| 1748s | which is sick I'm I'm sorry I'm so Sidra |
| 1750s | now I'm just thinking of all the |
| 1751s | different cool combinations that we |
| 1752s | could have I want a mounted ballista |
| 1754s | that you can put down imagine having |
| 1756s | that slot in the middle of the Coliseum |
| 1757s | and it just pops everything for |
| 1760s | you yeah all right I'm G to get I'm |
| 1762s | going to get chat to get on my side on |
| 1764s | this one maybe eventually all right |
| 1766s | let's go on to the next question um are |
| 1768s | the magic R is intended to be in the |
| 1770s | place of a weapon that would slot |
| 1771s | between s/ |
| 1775s | Shadow not really obviously sometime in |
| 1778s | some places this might fill a little bit |
| 1779s | of the Gap right where somebody's got a |
| 1782s | particularly Strong Weakness to |
| 1784s | something you might find the elemental |
| 1785s | spell but becomes really good but |
| 1788s | there's still obviously a gap um between |
| 1790s | those two weapons that we could fill in |
| 1792s | future so I see that it's still |
| 1795s | something we could potentially explore |
| 1797s | with future reward space |
| 1800s | cool all right uh what about powered |
| 1803s | staves are they elementally typed for |
| 1805s | example is the Trident water and is the |
| 1809s | shadow shadow or are they considered |
| 1813s | typeless they are |
| 1815s | typeless um that's that's where we are |
| 1817s | at the minute and we feel like that's |
| 1820s | the right choice now that it's the right |
| 1824s | choice because power staves will |
| 1826s | continue to be useful they already are |
| 1828s | useful and it's the elemental Spellbook |
| 1830s | that needs needs the love and needs this |
| 1833s | system to sort of help support it to to |
| 1835s | become more useful that said giving it a |
| 1839s | lot of thought I feel slightly uneasy |
| 1843s | about the fact we're rolling out a |
| 1844s | weakness system and it only interacts |
| 1846s | with this one element of this element is |
| 1849s | the wrong word this one part of |
| 1851s | magic so maybe this is stuff we can |
| 1854s | explore in |
| 1855s | future we're just not exactly sure how |
| 1858s | to do it yet because if you imagine the |
| 1860s | Trident of the Seas suddenly is water |
| 1862s | damage we still in the same position |
| 1864s | where the water spells and the elemental |
| 1866s | spell of rubbish so you you see the |
| 1869s | problem we're trying to deal with as |
| 1870s | much as it might make sense flames of |
| 1873s | zamak obviously being a being even |
| 1875s | that's not even a powered staff that's a |
| 1877s | spell but currently that won't interact |
| 1880s | with the elemental weaknesses um perhaps |
| 1882s | the argument could be it's it's evil |
| 1884s | fire it's not actually fire |
| 1886s | but stupid argument as side um it's |
| 1891s | something we need to keep in mind um |
| 1894s | because it goes in conflict with that |
| 1895s | goal of making the elemental spells |
| 1899s | good okay I mean it definitely makes |
| 1902s | sense when you explain it like |
| 1904s | that so essentially the options are open |
| 1908s | at the moment we just don't know what |
| 1909s | those options are but we are going to |
| 1910s | consider it and if there's a way we can |
| 1912s | make it work then we potentially will |
| 1915s | but it won't be it won't be with this |
| 1916s | batch like in any way shape or form |
| 1918s | for the future just it abely clear to |
| 1920s | everyone who watching yeah there's no |
| 1923s | reason we could have a weapon in future |
| 1926s | or spell in fature that we think is |
| 1928s | suitable to interact with this |
| 1930s | system cool okay um do you have any |
| 1934s | further thoughts on NPC defense |
| 1936s | information being gated behind 66 magic |
| 1939s | and dream Mentor is there some other way |
| 1941s | we could put this info in front of |
| 1945s | people I would love it to be a bit more |
| 1947s | accessible |
| 1949s | but no matter what we do people use the |
| 1952s | wiki and that is the best way to find |
| 1954s | that information with way more helpful |
| 1957s | additional stuff so at the end of the |
| 1960s | day there's options we could do we could |
| 1961s | add an in-game sort of monster the beasy |
| 1966s | whatever whatever the right word is we |
| 1968s | have the um the combat achievements |
| 1969s | stuff includes bosses which has like |
| 1972s | info on them anyway so like it could |
| 1974s | reasonably fit in there right in theory |
| 1977s | maybe we could add stats to that um |
| 1981s | obviously that doesn't go for everything |
| 1982s | but like no I totally could imagine a |
| 1984s | sort of ingame like lookup lookup um |
| 1988s | system imagine it fills out right like |
| 1990s | you can easily imagine this sort of |
| 1991s | system your first time you kill a |
| 1993s | gargoyle it adds a little bit of info |
| 1995s | the when you kill 10 it adds even more |
| 1996s | info and when you add 50 you got the |
| 1998s | full lot something like that right and |
| 1999s | you could have that for almost every |
| 2001s | creature in the game and it would fill |
| 2002s | up this ultimate sort of database that |
| 2006s | you can have access to I'm getting |
| 2007s | distracted by chat here here and they're |
| 2008s | all saying |
| 2009s | Pokedex I'm like yeah okay Bitely I'm |
| 2013s | definitely not biased when it comes to |
| 2014s | adding Pokemon into the game let's do |
| 2017s | the |
| 2019s | Pokedex so you could have that Dre even |
| 2024s | sorry stats Etc but it's |
| 2028s | just I'm also sat here like we only have |
| 2031s | so many developers and this is the most |
| 2033s | boring part of of game development and |
| 2036s | there's so many awesome things we could |
| 2037s | be doing |
| 2039s | and I think it just comes down to yeah I |
| 2041s | mean just look up the wiki so I don't |
| 2043s | want to do necessarily do something as |
| 2045s | ambitious as like a pokedex maybe one |
| 2047s | day because it it does sound |
| 2049s | cool but the cheaper option is just |
| 2052s | provide monster |
| 2054s | examine on a different spell book or |
| 2057s | lower its requirements remove the quest |
| 2059s | requirements like there's obviously |
| 2060s | options like that so we could think |
| 2062s | about it that way as well maybe that |
| 2065s | would help at the end of the day most |
| 2067s | content you don't want to be on Lunas |
| 2070s | taking taking runes for Monster examine |
| 2072s | in the middle of a raid or something |
| 2073s | right you're just going to do that on |
| 2075s | one time one time use could you just add |
| 2078s | it to a right click examine and remove |
| 2079s | the Spell entirely like there's so many |
| 2081s | ways you could look at it um if we come |
| 2084s | up a good one I'm sure we |
| 2085s | can we can go with |
| 2088s | it fair enough thank you well we've |
| 2091s | absolutely blasted through all of the |
| 2093s | questions that we had prepared but we do |
| 2095s | have a whole bunch from cat uh we've got |
| 2099s | some kind of like general questions or |
| 2102s | some that are focused very much around |
| 2104s | uh what's been happening recently in |
| 2106s | chat which would you prefer to go |
| 2108s | through ones that are related to the um |
| 2111s | topics we've been going over now or more |
| 2113s | generic in regards to project |
| 2115s | rebalance um anything anything you think |
| 2119s | people want to hear all right okay I'm |
| 2121s | gonna have some fun with this one then |
| 2123s | hold on uh Kieran can you please explain |
| 2125s | the law behind why would metal be weak |
| 2128s | to |
| 2131s | Earth I don't |
| 2133s | know I don't have the I don't have the |
| 2136s | explanation um maybe somebody has |
| 2139s | one but um I it kind of makes more sense |
| 2143s | I just sometimes you just get that Vibe |
| 2145s | right like it just feels like um people |
| 2148s | are shouting rust and stuff like that I |
| 2150s | feel like it makes more sense than than |
| 2153s | others fire it's definitely not because |
| 2155s | they breathe fire and stuff that doesn't |
| 2157s | make much sense |
| 2159s | water makes sense for the chromatic |
| 2160s | dragons they're five even creatures but |
| 2162s | the metal would defend them from that |
| 2164s | but imagine you got hard Che of metal |
| 2166s | like stuff like an earthquake would |
| 2168s | shatter that metal like I just kind of |
| 2169s | feel like it kind of makes sense that |
| 2171s | way he's been thinking about it okay |
| 2173s | okay all right all right round type |
| 2175s | beats Steel type in Pokemon there that's |
| 2177s | the |
| 2178s | logic all right we got we just go back |
| 2180s | to Pokemon Pokemon uh weaknesses I like |
| 2183s | that okay um a question another one is |
| 2186s | then why is Magic weakness made its own |
| 2189s | thing instead of splitting the defense |
| 2191s | like ranged I don't know how you would |
| 2193s | do it any differently I think isn't this |
| 2196s | so well that's that's it right magic has |
| 2199s | already got elements in the elemental |
| 2200s | spell book and so it makes sense to |
| 2202s | leverage those but I think it's very |
| 2205s | easy to argue that we should go for a |
| 2207s | cookie cutter approach where magic melee |
| 2209s | and range are basically the same |
| 2212s | thing I think the fact that magic is |
| 2215s | unique is a good thing and leaning into |
| 2218s | the spell books helps with that powered |
| 2221s | staves actually makes magic a little bit |
| 2223s | more like range uh because it's just |
| 2226s | swing on a weapon take some ammo but |
| 2229s | it's runes and you click on the monsters |
| 2231s | and attack the spell boooks are the |
| 2233s | interesting part of magic I want to lean |
| 2236s | into that more because that is what it |
| 2238s | brings to the game right it's different |
| 2240s | mhm um I don't want all three styles of |
| 2242s | combat to just basically dial back down |
| 2245s | to the same thing but it's dealing a |
| 2246s | different color of damage on on the |
| 2248s | screen or |
| 2251s | whatever Fair Point okay I have uh what |
| 2255s | is actually really interesting question |
| 2256s | and I saw that |
| 2258s | um it was asked in chat as well I |
| 2260s | actually saw it pop up and I wanted to |
| 2261s | ask it in the moment but this one comes |
| 2263s | in and says are there any plans to |
| 2265s | adjust the base spellcast XP in line |
| 2269s | with elemental spell scaling so for |
| 2271s | those that don't know or haven't seen |
| 2272s | the blog I think the proposal is that |
| 2275s | you'll unlock all of the elemental |
| 2276s | Spells at the same level now right so |
| 2278s | there won't be the level tiers or did I |
| 2281s | get that completely wrong |
| 2283s | can't okay thank God I think the |
| 2286s | proposal is you unlock them at the same |
| 2288s | levels as you do today yeah so you know |
| 2291s | you have win strike at level one I'm |
| 2293s | glad you're here K is it level nine for |
| 2295s | fire strike I don't want to be |
| 2297s | embarrassed by my lack of knowledge I |
| 2299s | mean I just embarrass myself anyway so |
| 2301s | just do it it make me feel better the |
| 2304s | idea 13 for fire strike there you go I'm |
| 2306s | wrong I've got I don't know why I said |
| 2308s | it was it's the damage that's scaling |
| 2310s | right the damage is being normalized |
| 2311s | across all of them um that's what it was |
| 2314s | that's where the damage the damage at |
| 2316s | level one windstrike will be lower but |
| 2319s | by the time you're level 13 windstrike |
| 2322s | will deal the same damage as fire that's |
| 2325s | the idea and the same for the other the |
| 2327s | other elements we still felt it was |
| 2329s | meaningful to unlock Spar as you go |
| 2331s | that's still got useless use cases it's |
| 2333s | going to be powerful to you because you |
| 2335s | will unlock spells that are useful for |
| 2336s | more places um and it also feels nice to |
| 2339s | unlock things as you level so rather |
| 2341s | than saying hey you need they're all at |
| 2343s | level one now right I just don't think |
| 2346s | that works quite as |
| 2350s | well cool so the base XP cast just be |
| 2354s | the same as it is now so XP I don't |
| 2357s | actually know um okay for damage it will |
| 2361s | work like that for XP I'm not 100% sure |
| 2363s | that's a good question though and we |
| 2365s | should we should have an answer for it |
| 2366s | because I don't actually know |
| 2369s | well we can clarify that I'm I'm pretty |
| 2370s | sure it would make a lot of sense if the |
| 2372s | Spells are unlocked at their respective |
| 2373s | levels as they are now then the base XP |
| 2376s | that you get for casting it which in |
| 2378s | most cases really just affects people |
| 2380s | who are splashing uh I imagine will |
| 2382s | remain the same as it is because it's |
| 2384s | still that higher magic level so on so |
| 2386s | forth and it's just that the extra |
| 2388s | damage you deal will be on top so wind |
| 2389s | strike and wave whatever else other wind |
| 2392s | spells you use will end up being more XP |
| 2396s | than they were before if you're dealing |
| 2397s | damage but for splashing they won't |
| 2399s | because you'll inherently deal more |
| 2400s | damage |
| 2401s | now so I I mean I agree with that I |
| 2404s | think that makes sense yeah but we'll |
| 2407s | confirm that anyway thank you for the |
| 2408s | question as well um and apologies if I |
| 2410s | confused anyone at the start but I think |
| 2412s | it was actually a good idea I'm |
| 2413s | definitely cing here but I think it was |
| 2414s | a good idea to confuse you all so that |
| 2416s | clear Kieran could clarify what it |
| 2419s | actually worked like because everyone |
| 2421s | really resonated with that change so I |
| 2422s | think it was it was a good segue into it |
| 2425s | um okay what about something like the |
| 2428s | bower how does that fit into range |
| 2430s | weapon |
| 2431s | types it's a bow it shoots arrows it |
| 2434s | will be standard waiting |
| 2437s | essentially straightforward |
| 2440s | really it's probably in most cases it'll |
| 2442s | be the thing that seems obvious because |
| 2444s | I think that is pretty much the decision |
| 2446s | we've made on |
| 2449s | everything nice all right makes sense I |
| 2452s | think that was covered in the blog |
| 2453s | anyway I'm sure I read that when I was |
| 2455s | um getting it uploaded but if not then |
| 2457s | the clarification um are you pleased |
| 2460s | with the place Elemental spells are |
| 2462s | based on your newsletter while more harm |
| 2465s | is wait while harm is more competitive |
| 2467s | Elemental spells against weaker monsters |
| 2469s | are still worse than Trident the |
| 2471s | mid-level magic |
| 2473s | option it's I think that's fine the |
| 2476s | game's going to offer you things where |
| 2478s | harm is better in plenty of places the |
| 2481s | game's going to offer you places where |
| 2482s | the Trident is better and that's good |
| 2485s | that is kind of what we want right if |
| 2487s | you think about the amount of reward |
| 2488s | space we want to be viable we want all |
| 2491s | of these things to be options we talk |
| 2493s | about it as sort of having horizontal |
| 2495s | space within your reward options and not |
| 2498s | just going very vertical |
| 2501s | um and so having places where Elemental |
| 2504s | spells are viable and your P powered |
| 2507s | staves are viable is good it means |
| 2509s | powered staves keep a price that you are |
| 2511s | willing to pay but it's not just |
| 2514s | unilaterally the best option which is |
| 2516s | boring |
| 2520s | awesome thank you Karen I just seen a |
| 2522s | question come up in chat around spell |
| 2524s | damage uh and it continuing to scale as |
| 2527s | you level I think even without knowing |
| 2530s | 100% I'm pretty confident that we're not |
| 2532s | increasing the cap of the damage that |
| 2535s | these spells can do that that the |
| 2537s | ceiling will be the fire spells which |
| 2539s | have the highest damage uh output at the |
| 2541s | moment and the other spells will just be |
| 2542s | able to hit the same as that as you get |
| 2544s | to the same level that you unlock the |
| 2545s | fire spell it's not that once you get |
| 2548s | past like the unlock of fire surge to 99 |
| 2550s | Mage you suddenly deal more damage with |
| 2552s | fire surge so there's that one um |
| 2555s | answered okay interesting one here |
| 2558s | because obviously I made a point earlier |
| 2560s | that you're not really going to notice |
| 2561s | any difference in terms of your play |
| 2563s | style so carry on as you are and I |
| 2565s | believe this was in direct response to |
| 2567s | that so let's see how we handle this one |
| 2570s | I thought the NPC rebalance was going to |
| 2572s | avoid Nerfs but gargoyles are minus 0.5 |
| 2575s | DPS in a standard mid-level whip setup |
| 2578s | which is |
| 2580s | significant |
| 2582s | so we can probably argue the point of it |
| 2585s | being significant I do agree it's enough |
| 2589s | if you if you go across a Slayer task |
| 2591s | it's like is five minutes across a slay |
| 2593s | task or something like that doing some |
| 2595s | rough rough maths so it isn't a massive |
| 2597s | deal but it might still be the case |
| 2601s | we've been a bit heavy-handed in some |
| 2602s | cases and we we're happy to adjust if |
| 2604s | there are examples where we've been too |
| 2606s | much but the reason why we haven't just |
| 2609s | left the slash defense as it is is |
| 2612s | because we don't want things to just get |
| 2613s | buffed across the board too heavily |
| 2617s | so garals today will be slower than |
| 2622s | garal will be after the update if you |
| 2623s | use the right Weaponry like it will be a |
| 2625s | slight buff but we've created space that |
| 2630s | with by lowering slash a little bit so |
| 2632s | lower slash a little bit increase crush |
| 2634s | a little bit and that's made this |
| 2636s | there's a decent jump between using the |
| 2638s | right weapon while so we could have left |
| 2640s | it at the same point and then Crush |
| 2642s | would have to be even more better right |
| 2644s | like it would have to be a substantial |
| 2646s | buff compared to what we were offering |
| 2648s | we felt less comfortable doing that thus |
| 2651s | narrowly lower slash narrowly buff Crush |
| 2655s | in the case of |
| 2656s | ggar obviously the aim being you can't |
| 2659s | just run around and use a Whip |
| 2660s | everywhere and get maximum |
| 2663s | Effectiveness by the point you were |
| 2665s | making earlier and what we said in |
| 2666s | previous talks about this we don't want |
| 2669s | to make whip useless OB we're not doing |
| 2671s | that it could have been imagine it was |
| 2673s | binary like imagine we went as hard as |
| 2675s | all right it is really weak to crush |
| 2677s | it's got zero Crush defense but it's got |
| 2678s | like a thousand slash defense we didn't |
| 2680s | want to go that that approach he totally |
| 2683s | could but we didn't want to do that |
| 2686s | approach because it's way too big of a |
| 2688s | change it's way too specific and removes |
| 2690s | options from players whip is still an |
| 2692s | option it's just not the best option and |
| 2695s | that's what we're going |
| 2696s | for |
| 2698s | perfect I think it makes complete sense |
| 2700s | and I really appreciate the way that you |
| 2701s | explained that I think it is really |
| 2703s | important to emphasize one of the things |
| 2705s | that you brought up at the start of that |
| 2707s | was that these are rule proposed changes |
| 2710s | we're doing a beta for a reason there |
| 2712s | are going to be some cases where as K |
| 2714s | mentioned we maybe changed the defenses |
| 2716s | a little bit too much and they are |
| 2717s | significantly worse uh regardless of |
| 2720s | what is claster significant or not put |
| 2722s | that aside we can change those stats you |
| 2724s | know like changing uh I'm going to |
| 2726s | forgive me for not being a developer and |
| 2728s | speaking on developers halves here but |
| 2730s | changing like a slash Defense number is |
| 2732s | a pretty trivial change as far as I'm |
| 2734s | I'm considered for like one NPC right so |
| 2737s | if we significantly messed up something |
| 2740s | uh we could just change that quite |
| 2742s | easily I think your average Joe who just |
| 2747s | garards with a whip because obviously |
| 2749s | there's legitimate reasons why you might |
| 2751s | not have a bludgeon that's quite a tough |
| 2752s | weapon to get if you're an Iron Man the |
| 2754s | zombie act maybe helps with that though |
| 2755s | there's a new weapon there mhm |
| 2758s | but you could just carry on killing |
| 2760s | garles with a whip and I think most |
| 2761s | people who haven't read up on the DPS |
| 2763s | calculators which let's be honest the |
| 2765s | people who look up DPS calculators are |
| 2767s | the |
| 2768s | minority yeah the ones that aren't going |
| 2771s | to be using the whip again anyway you |
| 2772s | know they're doing it to find out what |
| 2774s | the next best thing is so so the people |
| 2777s | who are using DPS cards and know the |
| 2779s | difference are the minority and are |
| 2781s | wanting to optimize everything most |
| 2782s | people don't know that a lot of people |
| 2784s | will carry on logging in after this |
| 2785s | update and probably not even notice the |
| 2787s | getting less DPS you know it'll be S |
| 2790s | It'll be such a |
| 2792s | marginal impact that's what we want |
| 2796s | anyway cool well thank you again Karan I |
| 2799s | really appreciate that Insight um |
| 2800s | someone has asked what the rough time |
| 2802s | for the release of the skill rebalances |
| 2805s | they're apparently holding off on maxing |
| 2806s | with agility on the hope the brim Haven |
| 2808s | buff comes in uh I'll happily take this |
| 2810s | one um I believe that the intention is |
| 2813s | to wrap up with all of the project |
| 2815s | rebalance work other than the Run energy |
| 2818s | changes which we mentioned as part of |
| 2820s | the Skilling stuff um around the end of |
| 2823s | May so you won't have a huge amount of |
| 2826s | time to wait however that's not |
| 2828s | guaranteed so don't crucify me if it |
| 2830s | doesn't happen in May but that's what |
| 2832s | we're aiming for you know so around |
| 2833s | about a month or so uh just over a month |
| 2836s | from now you should be able to see those |
| 2837s | come into effect uh as for like the rest |
| 2840s | of the timeline I'm happy to just let |
| 2842s | you guys know what our plans are we |
| 2844s | obviously talked about Skilling that was |
| 2847s | all finalized last week a week before |
| 2849s | last it was last week this week we've |
| 2852s | started talking about defense changes |
| 2853s | for NPCs and then I believe it's next |
| 2859s | week no week after next sorry the week |
| 2862s | after next we're going to be talking |
| 2863s | about item changes so by the end of |
| 2867s | April we'll have wrapped up all of the |
| 2869s | feedback all of the beta testing that |
| 2871s | we'll be able to do got all that |
| 2873s | together and then starting developing so |
| 2875s | as long as everything goes well we're |
| 2877s | looking for for end of May kind of |
| 2878s | timeline so yeah sorry Goblin I just saw |
| 2881s | you in chat my bad I was like looking |
| 2883s | the 16th oh that's that's you know only |
| 2886s | 12 days from now oh yeah there's not 12 |
| 2888s | days in a week though I use a again I |
| 2890s | told you math is not my strong suit um |
| 2892s | so yeah there you have it all right um |
| 2896s | with the magic damage changes to bring |
| 2898s | them together will there also be a Rec |
| 2900s | costing to bring the room costs closer |
| 2903s | together as |
| 2904s | well not not planned I don't think |
| 2907s | there's a massive gap between their |
| 2909s | costs the tradeoffs are I mean we just |
| 2911s | talked about base XP you get better XP |
| 2914s | for your base cast um and it's just the |
| 2917s | trade-off if you want to use fire blast |
| 2919s | it's going to cost a bit more than water |
| 2921s | blast but I mean all right how much |
| 2924s | different is it all right water blast is |
| 2928s | 204 |
| 2930s | coins fire blast is 214 coins it's 10 GP |
| 2935s | difference a cast this is not a big |
| 2939s | deal fair point also fire to him anyway |
| 2943s | yeah it's not like um the difference in |
| 2947s | you using the Spells is going as well |
| 2949s | right the whole point is that you're |
| 2950s | going to have more reason to use all of |
| 2952s | those different spells so there will be |
| 2954s | cases where you'll actually be using a |
| 2955s | cheaper spell and doing more damage than |
| 2957s | you would have been if you would have |
| 2958s | been using a far spell to begin with so |
| 2960s | I think it actually ends up balancing |
| 2962s | itself out |
| 2963s | overall it it's splashing where it |
| 2965s | probably adds up because you |
| 2967s | a long time and using a lot the spell a |
| 2970s | lot so even a 10 GP difference obviously |
| 2972s | does that up but I saw it mentioned in |
| 2974s | the chat yeah but we're not gonna be |
| 2976s | buffing splashing so G it |
| 2980s | yeah sorry okay I'm gonna go into the |
| 2984s | next question uh I think we already |
| 2986s | talked about God spells not being |
| 2988s | included there aren't any plans for that |
| 2989s | right now but it's something that we're |
| 2990s | keeping in mind and that may well be in |
| 2992s | the future but not not this side of |
| 2995s | project rebalance uh um what about |
| 3002s | will uh I think we've answered this one |
| 3004s | already but we'll recap it I got |
| 3005s | confused will you change the damage |
| 3007s | output between the elemental spells |
| 3009s | currently fire is always the best option |
| 3010s | due to the extra damage from the spell |
| 3012s | you want to just recover what it does |
| 3014s | yes that is that is a core part of what |
| 3017s | we're offering if you read the news post |
| 3019s | it's in this section called Elemental |
| 3021s | spell scaling |
| 3024s | essentially the damage for your other |
| 3026s | spells will will go up until you're at |
| 3028s | your level for the fire spell so if |
| 3031s | you're level one win strike it does less |
| 3034s | damage and then it scales up when you |
| 3036s | get to level 13 it will deal the same |
| 3038s | damage as your fire spell and then it |
| 3040s | will not scale any further and the same |
| 3042s | for obviously the other tiers of |
| 3044s | Elemental |
| 3047s | spells awesome all right there's a |
| 3049s | couple of questions I'm going to skip |
| 3050s | over someone asked if they can get an oo |
| 3052s | uh it was directed towards me but do you |
| 3053s | want to give them an ooo |
| 3055s | Kieran I can't enough |
| 3057s | I don't get paid I don't get paid enough |
| 3059s | to do that okay I I'll give them one but |
| 3062s | it'll be unsatisfying you go on go on oh |
| 3064s | woo there we go all right uh will you |
| 3067s | give more use cases to all Enchanted |
| 3069s | bolts with the new |
| 3075s | weaknesses I think that's really a |
| 3077s | separate project like it's not something |
| 3079s | we're looking to include |
| 3080s | here I think we probably do realize most |
| 3083s | the elemental the enchanted bolts are |
| 3086s | not very useful there's obviously a |
| 3088s | handful which AR we've added a new one |
| 3091s | for the with the mus boss we added a new |
| 3093s | one for the uh the prayer effect with |
| 3095s | the sapphire Bol but by and large we |
| 3098s | know they're a bit rubbish um we're not |
| 3100s | looking to change them here though we're |
| 3102s | not we can't fix everything with one |
| 3104s | rebalanced project but it maybe can be |
| 3106s | something we look at in |
| 3109s | future fair I think it would be good to |
| 3111s | and if you know if these rebalances go |
| 3114s | down well then maybe there is a a case |
| 3116s | for us to be doing more of them I mean I |
| 3118s | don't think we need a case but it would |
| 3119s | definitely help bolster it right and |
| 3122s | it's something that we've been talking |
| 3123s | about so so many times we've talked |
| 3125s | about changing NPCs changing weapons and |
| 3128s | all that kind of stuff and it hasn't |
| 3129s | happened so the fact that it is now is |
| 3131s | definitely promising for future |
| 3133s | potential change too but I think it's |
| 3136s | got to be like I say little and no it's |
| 3139s | it can't be little and often it's got to |
| 3140s | be a decent amount but not too often |
| 3143s | because like you said at the start of |
| 3144s | the stream we don't want to overwhelm |
| 3145s | players you don't want to have to feel |
| 3146s | like you have to relearn the entire game |
| 3148s | one of the beauties of old school |
| 3150s | RuneScape at least for me personally is |
| 3152s | that I could not play for two years and |
| 3155s | I could jump back in and I could play |
| 3156s | the exact same way as I did two years |
| 3158s | ago and the game will still feel the |
| 3159s | same yes there'll be new items there'll |
| 3161s | be new content but like the core game is |
| 3164s | still old school whereas so many other |
| 3166s | games update and feature creep so |
| 3168s | consistently that if you're away for |
| 3169s | like even three four months at times you |
| 3171s | can come back and it feels like a |
| 3173s | totally different game and we don't want |
| 3174s | to remove that charm don't want to lose |
| 3176s | that so we have to make sure we take it |
| 3178s | in in |
| 3181s | batches so I think I cut you off did you |
| 3183s | want to talk more about that or were you |
| 3184s | getting ready to |
| 3191s | e okay that was awful I wish I never |
| 3193s | asked you |
| 3195s | sorry what was yours well mine was |
| 3198s | intentionally disappoint we just built |
| 3200s | off all of that and you just gave the |
| 3202s | worst one I've ever heard I don't know |
| 3204s | people seem to be enjoying it they might |
| 3206s | be laughing but rather than um whatever |
| 3208s | else that's fair on your part you just |
| 3212s | made familiarity is the word I use with |
| 3214s | that I you should never come back to old |
| 3216s | school RuneScape and feel like it's not |
| 3218s | familiar anymore familiar I think if I |
| 3221s | tried to say the word I would just slip |
| 3222s | up on my tongue familiar familiar yeah |
| 3225s | see that's why I didn't use it but it |
| 3227s | would have been better okay um right |
| 3230s | what about next question because we've |
| 3231s | got to wrap up soon uh can you make the |
| 3234s | ice demon in Chambers take full damage |
| 3235s | for the demon Bane spells it would make |
| 3237s | sense and give it more |
| 3242s | use I I mean I don't see why not |
| 3244s | personally I think that's a certainly a |
| 3246s | valid valid request um it's not |
| 3249s | something we're currently doing but we |
| 3252s | certainly could bring it up and see if |
| 3254s | that's something we could go down we are |
| 3256s | Keen to make sure the fire spells they |
| 3258s | still the probably the main way to do |
| 3261s | the boss though um obviously we're |
| 3263s | making a lot of changes to the weakness |
| 3264s | system which the technically is one the |
| 3267s | things that already use as a kind of |
| 3268s | weakness |
| 3270s | system we'll be making sure that that |
| 3272s | carries |
| 3273s | on quite um but for demon B FS obviously |
| 3277s | it makes sense it seems like it should |
| 3278s | be an exception to that |
| 3280s | rule cool all right well there's one |
| 3282s | last question I'm just going to quickly |
| 3284s | fire over and then I'll go back over |
| 3285s | some announcements and key info someone |
| 3287s | has asked uh are the elemental or range |
| 3289s | weaknesses going to be added to armor |
| 3291s | player stats or just NPCs and it is just |
| 3293s | going to be for NPCs PVP won't be impact |
| 3297s | in any way shape or form and what about |
| 3299s | the flip side though NPC to player we |
| 3302s | have different defense types for range |
| 3306s | defense I don't think so um not right |
| 3310s | now I do think that starts to complicate |
| 3314s | things quite a bit as well with terms of |
| 3316s | like what gear the player can wear |
| 3318s | obviously right now it's is just range |
| 3321s | defense but obviously this isn't the |
| 3323s | case for melee you've got stab slash |
| 3325s | crush in theory this could be something |
| 3328s | we |
| 3329s | explore but I feel like if that will |
| 3332s | just end up feeling as a lot of blow in |
| 3334s | terms of what equipment offers different |
| 3336s | things you need to read but don't rule |
| 3338s | it out it obviously could be another |
| 3339s | line we decide this is something we |
| 3342s | should do at some point but not not |
| 3346s | currently when when we need some more |
| 3348s | reward space Maybe in the next raid |
| 3351s | we'll decide to bring it out then and we |
| 3353s | get a whole load of uh new armors we can |
| 3356s | use I'm just Justin I appreciate your |
| 3358s | your actual serious answer there Karen |
| 3360s | it's nearly time to wrap up so we got to |
| 3362s | leave on a high right I want to just |
| 3363s | cover off a few things really quickly uh |
| 3366s | modani has gone ahead and updated the |
| 3368s | update News Post so if you want to see |
| 3371s | what is what we'll be changing hopefully |
| 3373s | next week with the Coliseum modifiers be |
| 3376s | sure to check out that with exclamation |
| 3378s | mark game update you got to see all of |
| 3380s | that in there uh also there will be a |
| 3383s | mention of the hunter rumors I believe |
| 3386s | sign posted it and then deleted it so I |
| 3388s | hope you wanted me to actually talk |
| 3391s | about it uh this includes pet drop rates |
| 3394s | exclamation mark now live okay oh this |
| 3397s | includes Hunter rumor rates all right |
| 3401s | thanks Annie for the live editing just |
| 3403s | go and check out the post it will have |
| 3405s | new info in there that you haven't seen |
| 3407s | before if you haven't already tried out |
| 3409s | the beta for the NPC defense changes |
| 3411s | that we've been talking about you can go |
| 3413s | ahead and try them now however we are |
| 3416s | aware that there is an issue with ranged |
| 3417s | combat which we're hoping to deploy a |
| 3419s | fix for tomorrow the beta will be |
| 3421s | extended into next week so if you |
| 3423s | haven't had a chance to participate |
| 3425s | there will be time uh the next batch of |
| 3428s | project rebalance proposals will also |
| 3430s | feature an open Beta those will be |
| 3431s | around item changes so if you really |
| 3433s | want you can wait until that happens and |
| 3435s | try out item changes as well as defense |
| 3437s | changes but it would be really |
| 3439s | appreciated if you logged in tried them |
| 3441s | out in the beta and gave us some |
| 3442s | feedback over the course of the next |
| 3443s | couple of days so that we can send that |
| 3445s | to developers in good time because as |
| 3447s | we've mentioned we're hoping to have all |
| 3448s | of this shipped by the end of May and we |
| 3452s | can only do that if you give us good |
| 3454s | feedback other than that someone has |
| 3457s | changed the title of the stream script |
| 3459s | to say |
| 3460s | intoduction so I just gave you that one |
| 3462s | for free uh exclamation mark video if |
| 3465s | you don't want to read the blog if you |
| 3467s | just prefer watching videos and |
| 3468s | listening to someone talk to you about |
| 3469s | it all then we partnered with coxy who |
| 3471s | did a fantastic job of explaining what |
| 3474s | the NPC defense changes look like so |
| 3477s | make sure you check that out with |
| 3478s | exclamation mark video and I believe |
| 3482s | that is everything that I needed to go |
| 3485s | over unless I've missed anything Kieran |
| 3487s | can you think of anything I should have |
| 3488s | said that |
| 3489s | haven't I don't think so okay all right |
| 3493s | well I think this is the first for me |
| 3494s | where I finished the live stream and |
| 3495s | it's just been only after like slightly |
| 3498s | after 6 rather than it being like 6:30 |
| 3500s | so thank you everyone for tuning in |
| 3502s | really appreciate all of the fun Vibes |
| 3504s | chat you have been incredibly cute and |
| 3506s | and wholesome today we love you Kieran |
| 3508s | you've been incredible thank you for |
| 3510s | joining me and making the live stream |
| 3511s | happen for all of your incredible |
| 3513s | answers and insight and also thank you |
| 3515s | to mod mod Druid nearly did it |
| 3518s | again for the production mods Goblin uh |
| 3523s | as well as oh my God I'm gonna forget |
| 3526s | the mod name um everyone else who helped |
| 3528s | me get the stream together today jagex |
| 3531s | Yumi thank you you're a legend I |
| 3533s | appreciate you I think I've remembered |
| 3535s | it correctly if not you can Slaughter me |
| 3537s | in DMS have a good evening we'll see you |
| 3540s | in the next stream have a great weekend |
| 3541s | as well |
| 3544s | bye |