devtrackers.gg
2 months
ago -
Old School RuneScape
-
Direct link
Transcript (by Youtube)
| 4s | hello hello hello everybody and welcome |
|---|---|
| 7s | to today's stream today we're going to |
| 10s | be getting stuck into two things uh |
| 13s | first we're going to be talking about |
| 14s | the recent God alignments pitch that we |
| 15s | put out Monday and if you haven't seen |
| 18s | uh there is an update to that blog in |
| 20s | there which is the main thing we'll be |
| 21s | talking about uh and alongside that |
| 23s | we'll also be talking about some project |
| 25s | rebalance stuff uh especially from Mod |
| 28s | Kieran so you know what let's start off |
| 30s | mod how are you |
| 32s | doing I am fantastic it feels like it's |
| 34s | been a while since we've got on a twitch |
| 36s | stream like this remotely as well so |
| 39s | looking forward to it I always enjoy |
| 40s | doing |
| 41s | these good stuff good stuff yeah we have |
| 44s | been talking about doing some more in uh |
| 46s | Studio streams as well so hopefully you |
| 49s | can look forward to some more of that |
| 50s | and I'm sure Kieran will be more than |
| 52s | happy to join us on the sofa uh for |
| 56s | those so yeah all right and mod rice |
| 59s | how's it going with you |
| 61s | going well went to watch June PL 2 for |
| 65s | the second time yesterday was just as |
| 68s | good presumably June three you're saying |
| 70s | three times |
| 71s | then maybe that is the bit that I need |
| 74s | to commit to at this point |
| 77s | yeah feel like it's only worthwhile you |
| 79s | do that mod rice honestly I will e that |
| 82s | twice in cinemas so that's it's ruined |
| 84s | you've ruined it already there's no |
| 86s | point uh but yeah I will Echo very very |
| 89s | good very good we watch that on Saturday |
| 92s | good um good good stuff all right well |
| 95s | if you missed it uh we ran a Discord |
| 97s | stages call on Monday where we answered |
| 99s | your player questions uh submitted in |
| 101s | the server which was uh quite nice I |
| 103s | felt mod I don't know how you felt about |
| 105s | it but I I thly enjoy the |
| 107s | stages yeah and I think we'll definitely |
| 110s | be running more of those uh so not just |
| 112s | for wild Graphics leaks we're going to |
| 113s | try and do some more uh in the future so |
| 115s | make sure to keep an eye on when we have |
| 117s | the next one of those uh and there will |
| 119s | be a record of that call coming soon uh |
| 122s | but we only be sharing the link in the |
| 124s | official Discord so if you want to catch |
| 125s | on that make sure you join the Discord |
| 128s | not only for that and all the other ones |
| 130s | we were on a run you can type |
| 131s | exclamation mark Discord in the chat to |
| 133s | get the link and join in uh so if you |
| 137s | weren't aware we're here to talk about |
| 138s | the latest concept pitch God alignment |
| 140s | prayers which we're proposing to launch |
| 142s | as part of while Guff it sleeps uh |
| 144s | alongside some words from Mod Kiran |
| 147s | about project rebalance but first of |
| 149s | course I'm going to run through the |
| 151s | announcements really quick so first off |
| 153s | is exclamation mark prayers following |
| 154s | your feedback about God alignment |
| 156s | prayers we're back with what we're |
| 157s | changing our next steps and addressing |
| 159s | the reasons for our decisions so you can |
| 161s | find all of that uh while you're |
| 163s | watching the stream if you haven't |
| 164s | already because it' be good to have some |
| 165s | concept on uh what we're talking about |
| 168s | uh and the second part is exclamation |
| 170s | mark rebalance uh our first full length |
| 173s | project rebalance blog is here detailing |
| 174s | skill and twakes uh and you can find out |
| 177s | more by using that command and this is |
| 179s | one of one of many blogs to come with |
| 181s | project rebalance it's a big it's a big |
| 183s | project in itself so just uh stay tuned |
| 185s | for much much more uh and exclamation |
| 188s | mark survey if you want to let us know |
| 190s | your thoughts uh about project rebalance |
| 192s | especially the Skilling stuff we've got |
| 193s | a lovely survey uh that you can fill out |
| 196s | everything you want us to know uh about |
| 198s | everything we've pitched and of course |
| 200s | exclamation mark Discord join the |
| 201s | official Discord server uh to catch |
| 203s | future Discord stages calls and be a |
| 205s | part of the community consultation |
| 207s | around everything God alignments project |
| 209s | rebalance |
| 210s | all of it it's a good place uh it's good |
| 213s | vibes come in there and uh and and hang |
| 215s | out with us it's a good time all right |
| 217s | that's all that out the way I think we |
| 218s | should get on to some uh some some chat |
| 221s | and some talking about project rebalance |
| 223s | to start off with uh so before we kick |
| 226s | up the G alignments uh we've got some |
| 227s | updates want to share with you regarding |
| 229s | your feedback and the future project |
| 232s | rebalance so first off let's tackle the |
| 234s | biggest point of discussion from this |
| 236s | week's News Post agility Kieran what's |
| 238s | going on with the changes and what are |
| 240s | we doing moving |
| 242s | forward oh agility agility um it's |
| 245s | certainly been the dominant topic I |
| 247s | think in terms of the response to to |
| 249s | rebalance so we got most to say about |
| 252s | agility and how we how we respond to |
| 254s | that but firstly I just want to S thank |
| 256s | everybody for the amount of attention |
| 258s | rebalance has got I mean it started off |
| 261s | as a as a game Jam pitch by mod Arcane |
| 264s | largely it just look at what dead |
| 266s | content have we got in game that we can |
| 267s | just sort of use to help fix and improve |
| 270s | improve the experience right aely for |
| 273s | instance relica PA of n courses that |
| 276s | basically just no one ever used but |
| 278s | could help fill out some of the space |
| 280s | the skill has for example obviously it |
| 283s | goes into loads of other skills too um |
| 285s | but yeah hundreds of thousands of people |
| 286s | have read the news post there's been an |
| 288s | absolute ton of engagement on the Reddit |
| 290s | thread um it has been amazing to see |
| 293s | that it's 11,000 survey responses I |
| 296s | think it's mad given that it's such a |
| 299s | sort of Niche topic about about tweaking |
| 301s | XP numbers right this isn't the new raid |
| 303s | it's not the new skill like this is |
| 305s | something so different so right agility |
| 309s | which is what your question actually was |
| 312s | so I've got some notes to sort of keep |
| 313s | me on track with what we're actually |
| 315s | looking to do |
| 317s | so firstly we know agility is unpopular |
| 319s | and that's been a big topic that this is |
| 321s | obviously brought to brought to the |
| 323s | front and we've seen that in annual |
| 325s | surface as well it basically it used to |
| 328s | be Rune crafting Mining and agility |
| 330s | would Al always dominate surveys from |
| 333s | least like skills Rune crafting doesn't |
| 336s | anymore gens of the rift and so on sort |
| 338s | of helped that and now it's in a better |
| 340s | place but Mining and Agility still come |
| 341s | out top obviously both of which are |
| 343s | getting some attention in |
| 345s | rebalance um but we can't fix agility by |
| 349s | just tripling XP rits that's that's not |
| 350s | really a viable solution either um but |
| 355s | being slow does exacerbate the other |
| 357s | problems so it's boring right basic |
| 360s | basically every agility course is at the |
| 363s | end of the day it's it's nice to have |
| 364s | different scenery and they might play a |
| 366s | little bit differently but essentially |
| 367s | you're doing the same thing um but also |
| 370s | it's unrewarding why do I care about |
| 373s | getting 90 agility or whatever level |
| 376s | beyond the sake of it right it's nice to |
| 378s | get Max one day there's there's a |
| 380s | handful of things like achievement |
| 381s | Diaries you might care about but |
| 383s | otherwise it's pretty poor so we want to |
| 385s | try and fix some of the progression |
| 387s | issues um and this overall is a buff |
| 390s | like it's still getting a bit faster we |
| 392s | just can't go absurd with it um and |
| 395s | we're also trying to add to the |
| 396s | rewarding side of it so one of the |
| 399s | topics has been the fact that there's |
| 402s | one course which is obviously where a |
| 404s | lot of people spent their time in Sea |
| 405s | Village which has got a slight Nerf on |
| 408s | on the table and the reasoning for that |
| 410s | is really to create the space for relica |
| 413s | and pauln nich to have room to push the |
| 416s | experience higher and indeed U are do do |
| 420s | R whatever we should know this play now |
| 422s | it's Ardo but R will do the r course |
| 425s | obviously being the top end we don't |
| 426s | want to push that too much um in fact as |
| 430s | much as a lot of people obviously do |
| 431s | want it to be faster there's also plenty |
| 433s | of people concerned about it's pushing |
| 435s | it too far um an Ari's got a pretty |
| 438s | sizable buff in in the blog um but it's |
| 441s | all so that we can create room between |
| 443s | seers for relica for p each to get |
| 446s | buffed um that said maybe would' been a |
| 449s | slightly bit too heavy-handed seers |
| 451s | we're going to change the Nerf so it'll |
| 454s | go down to about 57,000 XP an hour |
| 456s | rather than 55 I mean I know we're only |
| 459s | talking a couple of thousand here but |
| 460s | that is a lot closer to where it was and |
| 463s | where it is today um to me I think this |
| 466s | reasoning was fairly well explained um |
| 468s | in a comment on Reddit by mod husky if |
| 470s | you can find that and dig it out but |
| 472s | there's been some commentary on Reddit |
| 474s | about how overall this is pretty big |
| 477s | buff like 1 to 99 the hours it will take |
| 479s | you is a fair amount less than what it |
| 482s | was before these |
| 485s | proposals um but yeah to compensate for |
| 488s | SE changing there will be a little bit |
| 490s | of there will be some other tweaks |
| 491s | around there as well again with that |
| 493s | emphasis of making sure that you feel |
| 495s | rewarded for going from seers to PA of |
| 498s | nich and so |
| 499s | on um another concern brought up about |
| 502s | Relic and pal of nich is that the |
| 505s | courses feel a bit rubbish and maybe |
| 506s | they don't produce enough marks of Grace |
| 509s | we will look to try improve that c is |
| 511s | pretty good for aling at the same time |
| 514s | uh for not having to move your camera a |
| 516s | whole bunch we'll see what we can do |
| 518s | about those although we don't have Exact |
| 520s | Solutions just yet marks of Grace should |
| 522s | be fairly easy um another thing that we |
| 525s | didn't go into a lot of detail on but |
| 526s | it's still in our on our radar and we're |
| 528s | looking to obviously do as brim Haven to |
| 530s | to us that seems to be the more High |
| 532s | effort alternative to rooftops for like |
| 535s | the 40 to 70ish range that should help |
| 538s | from getting from the early game to like |
| 540s | towards late game um we're not attached |
| 543s | to any of the features of this proposal |
| 545s | um so some of the ideas that were like |
| 547s | social like tag the XP post tag the post |
| 550s | first for extra XP like we're happy to |
| 552s | just ditch that sort of idea um we also |
| 555s | not too fussed about the sub pillars |
| 558s | idea the idea that you'd get a secondary |
| 560s | pillar to go to once you've tagged your |
| 562s | first one as a bonus extra like some of |
| 564s | these we might we might tweak on based |
| 566s | on the feedback the biggest piece we |
| 569s | want to balance the content |
| 570s | appropriately for that level range |
| 573s | essentially so that from 40 to 70 it's |
| 576s | actually worth doing because right now |
| 578s | it isn't even though brim Haven actually |
| 579s | ends up being pretty decent at the top |
| 581s | end and a lot of this is this obvious |
| 584s | things the the darts trap lowers your |
| 587s | agility level why it's just insanely |
| 590s | punishing um and because of that like |
| 593s | you often end up below the requirements |
| 595s | to do the dart trap again like these |
| 596s | sort of ideas just hurt the content and |
| 599s | really put off anybody at that level |
| 601s | range participating in it |
| 604s | um anyway that's all the training stuff |
| 607s | on the other side the reward stuff so |
| 610s | shortcuts I think one of the things |
| 612s | that's gone down really really well it's |
| 614s | been awesome to see the buy into this |
| 616s | because we were like to be honest I was |
| 618s | a bit worried about pitching this water |
| 619s | birth dungeon |
| 621s | idea uh when I spoke to Arcane and said |
| 623s | I think we should do this like I was |
| 625s | like second guessing myself like it's a |
| 627s | big change which is why our Instinct was |
| 629s | actually put it behind the throwing xes |
| 631s | and all that sort of stuff cuz we didn't |
| 633s | want to necessarily lose something that |
| 634s | was like the feeling of that dungeon so |
| 637s | on but it's I've seen feedback to the |
| 641s | contrary and it's fair enough 80 plus |
| 644s | agility should damn well be rewarded |
| 647s | with something that feels worth doing it |
| 650s | for most of your DK's grind isn't |
| 652s | happening post 80 odd agility anyway so |
| 655s | it's it's nice when you go back at a |
| 656s | high level that you can do that more |
| 658s | quickly um but this is highlighted that |
| 661s | we want to add more as well um this |
| 663s | obviously that wasn't the only one we're |
| 664s | pitching people Lov the the fossil |
| 667s | Island one there's been suggestions for |
| 669s | one in the mall there that cuts out some |
| 671s | of the having to run around the Rocks so |
| 673s | we might look at that one and we've got |
| 674s | a whole bunch of others that have been |
| 676s | suggested in the survey there's like |
| 678s | 3,000 odd comments suggesting different |
| 680s | agility shortcuts and we've got our own |
| 681s | ideas as well so we'll definitely look |
| 684s | at some of those um and also across the |
| 687s | whole range like if we wouldn't want to |
| 688s | just Target like 80s and 90s but make |
| 691s | agility feel meaningful all the way |
| 693s | through the skill as best as we can um |
| 696s | KQ one's obviously slightly |
| 698s | controversial people have asked for us |
| 701s | to remove the elite desert diary task |
| 704s | we're a bit back in back and forth on |
| 706s | that um just because the elite diary for |
| 709s | Desert would be quite lacking so we |
| 712s | might revisit that down the line but for |
| 716s | now we're probably unlikely to change |
| 718s | that until we come with the idea for |
| 720s | what desert diary should reward Instead |
| 723s | at the elite level but we'll keep it in |
| 725s | mind um we're also going to change Trum |
| 728s | Village the Trum stronghold sorry to be |
| 732s | level one still rather than level 10 so |
| 735s | anybody who would love starting there |
| 736s | can absolutely still do that and we'll |
| 738s | just have a bit more of a gap at level |
| 740s | 10 but that's not really a big issue you |
| 741s | fly through those levels anyway and most |
| 744s | people just do a go go do a quest and |
| 745s | it's not an issue this really is the |
| 747s | noob friendly I don't want to have to |
| 749s | run all the way a gnome stronghold to |
| 751s | get my first agility levels which is |
| 753s | absurd um sea actually this is the other |
| 756s | training element so sepa is a big piece |
| 759s | of agility content it's really high |
| 761s | intensity it's quite hard to learn and |
| 765s | we just feel like you're not really |
| 767s | fairly compensated for that XP wise like |
| 771s | especially at the earlier levels I think |
| 772s | post 92 is great and people feel |
| 775s | comfortable and a lot of people choose |
| 777s | to do it then people don't choose to do |
| 779s | it at 72 and 82 not much anyway |
| 783s | obviously I can't it's not everybody |
| 785s | some people will but by and large it's |
| 788s | just hard to justify why am I going to |
| 790s | go and do something that's so high |
| 793s | effort for a marginal amount of extra XP |
| 796s | which you probably won't get because you |
| 798s | might still be learning the content you |
| 800s | don't get the chance that the ring drop |
| 801s | because that's only post 92 so the the |
| 804s | incentives to do it are less so we want |
| 806s | to we want to up level three and level |
| 808s | four and we'll do that by removing a bit |
| 811s | of XP from level five and putting it |
| 813s | onto three and four that means if you're |
| 816s | doing it post 92 basically the XP rates |
| 818s | unchanged but we're just bringing up |
| 820s | three and four a little bit more so that |
| 822s | it's worth your |
| 824s | time so it doesn't change it at the end |
| 827s | game um the other complaint we've seen |
| 830s | about sea for a while is the in lack of |
| 833s | instancing so you might realize that the |
| 836s | timing of certain obstacles changes |
| 838s | because other people have before |
| 840s | you we are going to look at instances um |
| 844s | we're not sure exactly if it'll just be |
| 846s | a free thing that everyone get or if |
| 848s | it'll be an |
| 849s | unlock but we are going to look to do |
| 851s | this in some capacity we just don't know |
| 853s | the solution yet so better XP for earli |
| 856s | sea and probably easier to play because |
| 859s | of the timing stuff getting |
| 861s | solved um so loads of good stuff I think |
| 864s | that just about covers agility I mean |
| 866s | I've been on a probably a 10 minute 5 |
| 868s | minute Tire ra at this point so we |
| 870s | should probably move fast it was good |
| 872s | it's great summary I just want to say |
| 874s | though on the um the mle shortcut I saw |
| 877s | that suggestion I was like that's genius |
| 879s | I should be like Pac-Man in there we |
| 880s | should have 20 of them should be going |
| 881s | from the left side of the screen to the |
| 883s | right um love that |
| 885s | one yeah I agree and Kieran I'm not |
| 888s | going to lie we we should just let you |
| 890s | continue the ramble honestly because |
| 891s | agility is just one of many things that |
| 894s | was in the project rebalance blog and I |
| 896s | think it's probably time to talk about |
| 898s | the other hotly uh debated topic which |
| 901s | was beathing what is going on with that |
| 905s | skill for feing we've been probably a |
| 907s | bit too heavy-handed on the top end |
| 909s | especially with zaric pocketing so we |
| 912s | will bring down the top end a bit so |
| 913s | it's more fair and doesn't invalidate |
| 916s | other methods like blackjacking pyramid |
| 919s | plunder efficient artifacts and so on |
| 922s | obviously we're still looking to buff it |
| 923s | and really help with the over exuberant |
| 926s | fail rates and those sort of things so |
| 928s | like we still want stuff like Zar and |
| 931s | heroes and so on to be an option we |
| 934s | don't want to be just totally dead as |
| 936s | some of them almost are right now so |
| 939s | we're still look to do that but it'll be |
| 940s | a bit less generous than we have been um |
| 943s | so hopefully that would be good and the |
| 944s | surveys do indicate that this is the |
| 947s | right thing to do as well players have |
| 948s | told us that um it's the feeling of it |
| 951s | that's that's good even doing ay kns |
| 954s | when you still fail it sucks man when |
| 957s | you're failing all the time um it's nice |
| 959s | to have a fair balance to that we'll |
| 962s | also pick a few NPCs to roll out some |
| 963s | higher tier of Clues to um th's quite |
| 967s | well known for Clues right ham the |
| 969s | guards that you can you get them from |
| 971s | pick pocketing guards or just killing |
| 973s | them either way ham certainly at the |
| 974s | easy level so let's roll out some of the |
| 977s | higher tier Clues to higher level NPCs |
| 979s | for thieving as well that'll be a nice |
| 981s | easy thing we can do um there's more we |
| 985s | can probably do with stores in the |
| 986s | future but we're not looking to go and |
| 987s | sort of go much further with them right |
| 989s | now now as much as people still point |
| 991s | out they're a bit lacking um I will also |
| 995s | think of like new reward space even um |
| 997s | for things like elves and VI but that's |
| 999s | definitely more of a future thing |
| 1003s | too um TR move on to |
| 1006s | slay I think so why not you're on a roll |
| 1008s | kieren you're on a roll you keep it up |
| 1010s | on a |
| 1011s | roll so there's a lot of tasks we propos |
| 1014s | removing from some of the lower level |
| 1016s | Masters and maybe some people thought we |
| 1018s | were going a bit too far with that we |
| 1021s | would say that those tasks lists on the |
| 1023s | early masss are so big like they're |
| 1026s | they're really bloated um but we are |
| 1030s | going to make a tweak um the main thing |
| 1033s | we'll be keeping in mind is that what if |
| 1035s | a task is on the master we will try and |
| 1037s | make sure it's a reasonable quantity |
| 1039s | like a lot of people might hate for |
| 1041s | example getting a signed metal dragons |
| 1043s | certainly early game when they're a pain |
| 1045s | to kill but if it's only a few of them |
| 1047s | rather than 20 odd that feels better you |
| 1051s | can still get the task done fairly |
| 1052s | quickly and get points which is also |
| 1054s | really valuable to an early level |
| 1057s | Slayer um sour Hogs we're going to move |
| 1060s | to be spr exclusive so they won't be on |
| 1063s | tal for people wanting a tal skip um |
| 1066s | we're going to look at the task storage |
| 1069s | system um and maybe make storing a task |
| 1073s | free it's already got a massive upfront |
| 1075s | task um unlock fee and so it feels |
| 1078s | appropriate that it doesn't cost much to |
| 1080s | use in of itself so that's that's really |
| 1083s | nice so if you do want to switch from |
| 1085s | having a task to go and do something |
| 1086s | else obviously that will be more |
| 1088s | welcoming now |
| 1090s | um and also things like the bug Basher |
| 1093s | some of the new items we were looking to |
| 1095s | introduce which ultimately something |
| 1097s | like the bug Basher is almost entirely |
| 1099s | placed a lowlevel Slayer G doing their |
| 1102s | you know historically rubbish cave bugs |
| 1104s | task might actually get something |
| 1106s | meaningful out of it that a high level |
| 1107s | player would want um but we're not |
| 1110s | attached to these we know there's some |
| 1112s | feedback around things like the ham |
| 1114s | joint and Swift blade does that just |
| 1116s | harm them is it annoying because it's |
| 1118s | charge based but realistically it needs |
| 1121s | to be charge based if we want it to hold |
| 1122s | a price and value for the people who |
| 1124s | would get it at the low end of the game |
| 1126s | so we'll do some more thinking on it but |
| 1128s | we might choose to just not move forward |
| 1130s | with some of those ideas at the minute |
| 1133s | um all right so that's the layer um and |
| 1137s | Mining is obviously the other skill |
| 1139s | we've put a decent amount of focus on um |
| 1142s | and these were also responded to really |
| 1144s | well there's a load of positive |
| 1145s | sentiment from the survey people seem |
| 1147s | quite happy with the proposed changes |
| 1150s | for mining um there's still some tweaks |
| 1153s | that we might want to make though based |
| 1154s | on what we said |
| 1156s | yesterday |
| 1157s | um so we are not really obviously |
| 1160s | handling a lot of the core mining stuff |
| 1164s | yet we know there's still a lot of |
| 1166s | improvements to just the general hitting |
| 1168s | rocks and the core skill there's the |
| 1171s | bigger issues connected to smithing |
| 1172s | about how you need like an absurdly high |
| 1174s | level to get runite F point is useless |
| 1177s | past the point is useful to you we're |
| 1179s | not looking to obviously fix all of that |
| 1181s | stuff now it's similar mindset we're |
| 1183s | looking at what have we got how can we |
| 1185s | make it better and make incremental |
| 1187s | improvements to the |
| 1189s | skill um blast mine there's a there's a |
| 1192s | list of there's more more changes there |
| 1194s | um so we're looking to increase the |
| 1196s | timer for the crumble or the despawn |
| 1198s | behavior |
| 1199s | will increase the capacity so that you |
| 1201s | can claim more ore at once with a bigger |
| 1204s | XP drop obviously with that which makes |
| 1206s | everyone feel good um we'll add a |
| 1209s | counter so you can see how much ore |
| 1210s | you've |
| 1211s | deposited um so yeah um there's lots of |
| 1215s | stuff happening there zalcano obviously |
| 1217s | maybe more people into |
| 1219s | zalcano um we're going to look at some |
| 1222s | of the feedback around that but it seems |
| 1224s | like most people are quite happy with |
| 1226s | the idea that they can use this as a |
| 1227s | Training Method the thematics exactly |
| 1230s | how the drops and XP are handled we |
| 1233s | we'll still de be debating that and |
| 1234s | looking for the ideal solution and how |
| 1236s | we handle it um essentially the long and |
| 1240s | short of it obviously is we cannot offer |
| 1241s | you all the loot and all the XP at the |
| 1244s | same time and we're also conscious of |
| 1246s | the fact everyone's well aware there's a |
| 1248s | lot of gold farming activity that |
| 1250s | happens at zalo so that's got to be |
| 1252s | taken into account into our design |
| 1254s | too and I think that's about it for all |
| 1256s | the rebalance things that we wanted to |
| 1258s | show talk about um obviously there will |
| 1260s | be another blog coming I believe s that |
| 1263s | covers this |
| 1265s | yes yeah we we'll make sure to have all |
| 1268s | of this information in a nice tidy place |
| 1270s | so you guys can get that easily so yeah |
| 1273s | thank you very much Kieran for the for |
| 1275s | the in |
| 1277s | depthy sorry my my two cents for Slayer |
| 1281s | uh I personally can't wait to corrupt my |
| 1283s | bug Basher I'm really looking forward to |
| 1286s | it there you go hot from Rice about the |
| 1290s | the bug Basher there excellent stuff but |
| 1292s | yeah I think that's honestly all of it |
| 1295s | some some good things and mostly that's |
| 1298s | down to all of your engagement uh like |
| 1300s | as as Kieran stressed at the start like |
| 1302s | we We Can't Stop recommending filling |
| 1305s | out these surveys which are including a |
| 1306s | more and more news post and it gives us |
| 1309s | a better way of collecting like |
| 1311s | collecting feedback in a way uh |
| 1313s | alongside all the other social channels |
| 1315s | so please fill them out when we have |
| 1316s | them there we're going to include them |
| 1318s | in a lot of things |
| 1319s | uh it really does give us a good idea of |
| 1321s | of of what's going on so you know make |
| 1323s | sure to to check those out when you do |
| 1325s | read the blogs it might take a little |
| 1326s | while you know I think the average I |
| 1328s | think for the project rebalance on the |
| 1330s | average uh fill out time is like 32 |
| 1333s | minutes or something like that uh I'm |
| 1335s | sure it wouldn't take most of you that |
| 1337s | long but um they do really really help |
| 1340s | uh so yeah I I can't stress that enough |
| 1343s | honestly um awesome all right I think |
| 1346s | that is Project rebalance uh done again |
| 1349s | you can look forward to the update to |
| 1350s | the blog I think uh Goblin was in chat |
| 1352s | saying at some point next week um but I |
| 1356s | think we'll come away from Project |
| 1357s | rebalance for a bit and we will talk |
| 1359s | about uh one of the main reasons we're |
| 1361s | here and that is God alignment prayers |
| 1364s | so if you haven't seen Monday we |
| 1366s | released a uh a quite lengthy blog |
| 1369s | detailing uh our thematics for seven |
| 1373s | gods uh and then went into the details |
| 1375s | for three of those on the prayers that |
| 1378s | you can find in in the gfix alignment |
| 1380s | the rights of balance the zaros |
| 1382s | alignment the ruinous powers and finally |
| 1385s | the sarin alignment the covenants of |
| 1386s | light uh now we've see we saw a lot of |
| 1389s | feedback from these uh from these |
| 1392s | prayers and we again I can't stress |
| 1394s | enough saying just thank you uh for |
| 1397s | being so attentive and giving us as as |
| 1399s | much feedback you can across all the |
| 1400s | social platforms and the survey and |
| 1402s | everything um it's been honestly great |
| 1404s | to see and this won't be the last of it |
| 1406s | this is going to be an ongoing |
| 1408s | discussion we are very cautious and you |
| 1412s | know we want to make sure we're getting |
| 1413s | this right we're not going to rush it |
| 1415s | hence why as part of the uh as part of |
| 1419s | the updated blog if we end up going past |
| 1422s | the point of while graffic sleeps and we |
| 1423s | don't release them then we will do that |
| 1426s | if that is the case um so we have these |
| 1429s | in mind we want to be flexible to make |
| 1430s | sure that we are giving this the |
| 1432s | attention that it so deserves uh so if |
| 1435s | you did miss the update today I'm going |
| 1437s | to give you a little rundown of what |
| 1438s | we're we're proposing uh so following |
| 1441s | your feedback uh there is an update at |
| 1443s | the top of the uh usual blog which you |
| 1445s | can find with exclamation mark prayers I |
| 1447s | want to say I'm just going to scroll |
| 1449s | back up to the top Yes exclamation mark |
| 1451s | prayers uh so you can have a look at |
| 1452s | that but essentially to summarize we're |
| 1455s | removing sarin from the current roster |
| 1457s | uh as we want to make sure that we have |
| 1459s | some refined focus on those prayers uh |
| 1461s | and if all goes well we'll revisit them |
| 1463s | later so they're not gone gone they have |
| 1465s | just been moved out of this initial uh |
| 1467s | uh pitch and then we're going to go back |
| 1469s | to redesign both gfix and zaros and |
| 1472s | we'll tweak the designs with all the uh |
| 1474s | feedback we've seen to incorporate them |
| 1476s | inside of them uh and part of that is |
| 1479s | removing at least one prayer from each |
| 1482s | of them uh so in doing that we're |
| 1484s | trimming down the number of prayers uh |
| 1486s | by at least one uh and this is not a |
| 1489s | hard this is not a number we're hard |
| 1490s | stuck on this is something that we can |
| 1491s | be flexible upon uh but initially we're |
| 1494s | just going to take one off for now and |
| 1496s | then we're just going to see see how we |
| 1498s | go from there uh but we're definitely |
| 1500s | open to different alignments having the |
| 1502s | different numbers and Etc uh and then |
| 1505s | we're going to step further back and |
| 1508s | we're going to present you one pitch at |
| 1509s | a time so the first one is going to be |
| 1511s | the graphics alignment uh because and |
| 1513s | then once that consultation is wrapped |
| 1516s | up and if everything goes well we will |
| 1518s | then and only then move on to the zaros |
| 1521s | alignments because something that I |
| 1522s | mentioned in a couple of replies to |
| 1524s | today's Reddit Fred is that information |
| 1526s | overload is a very big big concern for |
| 1529s | us there is a lot being thrown at you |
| 1531s | especially recently and I'm sure |
| 1533s | there'll be more to come uh in the next |
| 1535s | few months of of information about uh |
| 1537s | different projects that we're working on |
| 1539s | and we want to make sure that you guys |
| 1540s | have time to process that and properly |
| 1542s | discuss that and and so that we are |
| 1546s | doing best for what you want essentially |
| 1549s | um so |
| 1550s | hopefully that should that should be |
| 1553s | good I think I've summed that up fairly |
| 1554s | well so yeah essentially it's oh gone |
| 1557s | gone right sorry I was just going to say |
| 1559s | to to give some context as well like |
| 1561s | part of the reason for for this like |
| 1564s | wanting to do this is there was again a |
| 1567s | ton of feedback which is really nice |
| 1569s | because you know it gives us an idea of |
| 1571s | where to go next the intention with with |
| 1573s | this was always to like okay here's a |
| 1574s | starting point where do we go from here |
| 1577s | um the problem is that like some people |
| 1579s | are talking about sarin some people are |
| 1581s | talking about one specific sarin prayer |
| 1582s | other people are talking about gothics |
| 1584s | other people are talking about this and |
| 1586s | it makes it really difficult to just |
| 1587s | like focus on one thing at time and have |
| 1589s | a conversation with the community that |
| 1591s | complicate conversations as well we we |
| 1593s | think this is really challenging to get |
| 1595s | right we acknowledge that um and so in |
| 1598s | order to have those clear conversations |
| 1601s | let's just take it one at a time and uh |
| 1603s | make sure we're doing the right |
| 1606s | things yeah I couldn't I couldn't agree |
| 1608s | more m r so essentially you'll be seeing |
| 1611s | from us soon I can't give you a date yet |
| 1614s | but a dedicated gothics alignment News |
| 1616s | Post with no more than three prayers |
| 1618s | alongside that there will be elements of |
| 1620s | community consultations there will be |
| 1621s | surveys we'll be doing live streams |
| 1623s | Discord stages and of course which we |
| 1626s | know is very important to a lot of you |
| 1627s | open baers to make sure that the prayers |
| 1629s | feel right not just only on paper but |
| 1632s | give you the time and the hands on |
| 1633s | experience to make sure that they are in |
| 1636s | the right place and then of course we'll |
| 1637s | end up doing some polls to make sure |
| 1639s | that they are good and they are going |
| 1641s | through and they go into the game so |
| 1642s | that is the the process I just want to |
| 1646s | say thank you for everyone that's been |
| 1647s | so understanding and giving us your |
| 1649s | patience and your trust like it is |
| 1651s | something that we are again being very |
| 1653s | cautious about what we want to make sure |
| 1655s | we're doing the best possible and we |
| 1656s | know there are there are players out |
| 1658s | there that don't like the idea of new |
| 1660s | prayers at all hopefully you can help us |
| 1663s | on the journey to make them as good as |
| 1665s | they can be for everybody because that's |
| 1667s | what we're here to do ultimately so help |
| 1669s | work with us to make them the best |
| 1671s | possible because that's what we want we |
| 1673s | just want the game to be in in a great |
| 1675s | place honestly um so alongside that that |
| 1678s | we have gathered up some questions which |
| 1680s | we've seen from uh your conversations |
| 1682s | over the last week and we're going to go |
| 1684s | through them today so I think we'll |
| 1687s | start straight away |
| 1688s | with question one some of these prayers |
| 1691s | are too complicated talk about the the |
| 1693s | ones we pitched how are you going to |
| 1695s | simplify |
| 1697s | them okay um well I think there's a |
| 1699s | multipronged approach here |
| 1701s | like there are many things that people |
| 1704s | are concerned about first is the |
| 1706s | keywords thing we thought we were being |
| 1708s | clever I don't think it worked out um |
| 1710s | this whole like vulnerability thing |
| 1712s | adaptation you know it makes it in our |
| 1714s | minds sound simpler but it doesn't |
| 1717s | actually work and it gives people the |
| 1718s | impression that it's like a status |
| 1720s | effect which is not what we were going |
| 1721s | for but definitely what we communicated |
| 1724s | um so it's been made clear those don't |
| 1726s | belong um we're going to completely |
| 1728s | remove those we'll find a different way |
| 1730s | of doing that um we're going to explore |
| 1733s | some variations on the existing Concepts |
| 1735s | again cutting the number of prayers down |
| 1737s | means that we can focus on getting good |
| 1739s | stuff um for what we do deliver uh |
| 1742s | cutting the number of alignments we're |
| 1743s | initially delivering also means that we |
| 1745s | can focus harder on getting the right |
| 1747s | stuff um presenting an interesting |
| 1748s | choice ideally uh between the two |
| 1751s | alignments like should be thinking |
| 1754s | before you go into an encounter a pvm |
| 1756s | encounter am I going to take my Gothic |
| 1758s | prayers or am I going to take my zaros |
| 1760s | prayers that's I think the ideal spot |
| 1762s | for us to be um yeah all of that should |
| 1765s | hopefully reduce the complexity quite a |
| 1767s | lot we'll also be exploring some of the |
| 1769s | suggestions that the community have come |
| 1770s | forward with uh different Avenues |
| 1772s | there's quite dramatic things that we |
| 1774s | could change there are smaller tweaks |
| 1775s | that we could make we'd like to explore |
| 1778s | both I would like to say when we pitch |
| 1780s | them forwards none of these things are |
| 1782s | final um nothing's final before it gets |
| 1785s | blogged um so when we suggest a simple |
| 1788s | one if you go wow this is really simple |
| 1790s | and boring um it shouldn't come into the |
| 1792s | game tell us that um or maybe we suggest |
| 1795s | something too complex and you're like |
| 1796s | this is too difficult to understand and |
| 1798s | and it's going to make playing the game |
| 1800s | annoying tell us that um we want to |
| 1803s | itate and we want to get it |
| 1805s | right Simplicity is important to old |
| 1808s | school as a whole and I think we've seen |
| 1811s | it go wrong in other content I think |
| 1813s | people use the term complexity around |
| 1816s | forestry um and that's not the only |
| 1818s | example and I think it's a it's a good |
| 1820s | to capture where things have gone too |
| 1823s | far and trying to find like a niche and |
| 1824s | some crazy utility and there's something |
| 1827s | to be said which TR to find the |
| 1829s | smoothest simplest solution that |
| 1831s | achieves a similar result we don't want |
| 1832s | to change the feeling of combat and the |
| 1835s | way you use prayers necessarily right we |
| 1837s | want to explore new |
| 1840s | ideas and get that right to me |
| 1843s | complexity um kind of comes through |
| 1845s | depth like each individual thing should |
| 1846s | be fairly simple um it's the way you |
| 1849s | utilize these different simple things |
| 1851s | that adds the depth um and that's where |
| 1854s | we want to try and capture it with |
| 1855s | prayers as |
| 1857s | well yeah to to Echo kieran's point I |
| 1860s | want to stress that obviously I feel |
| 1862s | like there's a lot of fear especially |
| 1865s | when it comes to something as classic as |
| 1868s | as as prayers are and that is completely |
| 1871s | understandable I think players have a |
| 1873s | very fair right to feel like that but |
| 1876s | we're hoping that you can give us the |
| 1878s | opportunity to make it as good as |
| 1880s | possible and if not then you tell us and |
| 1882s | we are very open to every single bit of |
| 1885s | feedback we are open to I I can't stress |
| 1887s | this enough especially me from a |
| 1889s | personal level and a players level I |
| 1891s | want these to work as well as as well as |
| 1893s | they can to make sure they fit so nicely |
| 1895s | into the current standing of prayers and |
| 1898s | what prayers mean and how Simplicity |
| 1900s | means for that and everything else so I |
| 1902s | think that the fear is rightly to be had |
| 1906s | it's just that we want something to we |
| 1908s | just want to we just want to make it |
| 1909s | work the best it can you know and I |
| 1911s | think the over complication aspect was a |
| 1914s | big part of of the feedback we saw and |
| 1918s | that is something we're definitely going |
| 1919s | to take away and learn |
| 1922s | from oh all right uh thank you guys for |
| 1926s | the answer on that we will move on to |
| 1927s | the next one uh which is how do you plan |
| 1930s | to tackle the balance between not making |
| 1932s | prayers over complicated but still |
| 1934s | making prayers interested and I know |
| 1936s | Kieran you touched briefly on that but |
| 1937s | rice do you have anything to follow up |
| 1940s | on um yeah I |
| 1944s | think ideally we'd want it to be in a |
| 1946s | spot where it's sort of more like gear |
| 1950s | like Scythe Fang they don't |
| 1952s | fundamentally change the way that you |
| 1954s | play the game they're just like a choice |
| 1956s | that you make before you go into combat |
| 1958s | like what am I bringing where am I |
| 1960s | bringing it um alignments should feel |
| 1962s | like that it should feel like a choice |
| 1964s | you're making about you know what and |
| 1966s | you know eventually people will optimize |
| 1967s | it they'll say this is the best prayer |
| 1969s | to bring here and this is the best thing |
| 1971s | to do there but we want there to be a |
| 1972s | little bit of Discovery at the start and |
| 1974s | we do want there to be variety across |
| 1975s | where you bring your alignment um so |
| 1979s | hopefully that is where most of the like |
| 1981s | interest can lie um and then when you're |
| 1985s | in combat um they are just adding on to |
| 1987s | what you're already doing they're |
| 1988s | supporting your you know uh movement |
| 1991s | your gear switching even maybe your |
| 1993s | prayer switching they're doing things |
| 1995s | that interact with existing systems I |
| 1997s | think we might touch on this a little |
| 1999s | bit later but I think like hard line |
| 2003s | we'd like to draw is um we're not adding |
| 2006s | any new buttons to press um or any new |
| 2010s | UI elements that sort of like you know |
| 2012s | you need to keep track of still going to |
| 2014s | be you're looking at the same elements |
| 2016s | that you've always had uh and all the |
| 2018s | addition tile markers that EHC and uh |
| 2021s | run light are providing |
| 2025s | you yeah yeah very well said rice um |
| 2029s | Kieran I don't know if you have anything |
| 2030s | else to to hop on to that but it's the |
| 2033s | crooks of the challenge this question is |
| 2035s | exactly the point of what we're trying |
| 2037s | to solve right um and that requires this |
| 2039s | back and forth of the community |
| 2041s | um the reason complexity is almost an |
| 2044s | instant answer is you've got all these |
| 2047s | different alignments we want to get to |
| 2049s | how do you find them they're all their |
| 2050s | use cases and and niches and it's easy |
| 2053s | to come up with an idea that's |
| 2054s | complicated it's hard to come up with an |
| 2056s | idea that is simple and still |
| 2058s | interesting so this is what we're trying |
| 2060s | to do exactly |
| 2062s | this yeah yeah big agree indeed okay uh |
| 2066s | the next question we have is is a lot of |
| 2068s | these prayers add status effects which |
| 2071s | are invisible or don't belong in Old |
| 2073s | School any plans on how to avoid this |
| 2077s | yeah on this yeah the first uh answer I |
| 2082s | was just going to say like it's very |
| 2083s | clear that those don't belong and I |
| 2085s | genuinely believe this was just like a |
| 2087s | bit of a communication mistake we we |
| 2089s | tried to heord things and then it was |
| 2092s | like oh are these status effect I think |
| 2093s | we do actually call it a status effect |
| 2095s | in one of the um images so you know that |
| 2097s | is definitely |
| 2099s | um but yeah we we would not want to add |
| 2101s | like uh invisible effects that are hard |
| 2103s | to keep track of um and and things like |
| 2106s | buff bars at the bottom of the screen |
| 2108s | Noni elements stuff like that if you |
| 2110s | want to go ahead Kieran got something to |
| 2112s | finish us off with but um yeah any |
| 2115s | additional |
| 2116s | points yeah it's just exactly that we |
| 2119s | don't want to add loads of things to |
| 2120s | keep track of we probably all play |
| 2122s | different games where you see a b b with |
| 2124s | 20 or different icons on it it's so much |
| 2126s | to learn and get to grips with old |
| 2128s | school simple you can sort of just look |
| 2130s | at the screen and play as much as we do |
| 2133s | have a buff bar on run light and there's |
| 2135s | a buff bar on the HC they're small |
| 2137s | they're focused you can easily play |
| 2139s | without it um we'd never want to get to |
| 2141s | the point where you feel like you need |
| 2142s | it and that's maybe that's a good line |
| 2145s | to sort of capture it yeah I think for |
| 2148s | me if you're if you're looking away from |
| 2151s | like the center of action your character |
| 2153s | and the enemies that you're fighting |
| 2154s | then maybe something's gone wrong there |
| 2157s | um we do have have a little video I |
| 2159s | Threw together a little prototype to |
| 2160s | suggest how we might have like short |
| 2162s | spanning effects um that do impact you |
| 2166s | immediately but don't require you to |
| 2167s | have some like crazy UI setup in order |
| 2169s | to keep track of don't know if we can |
| 2171s | get that up |
| 2177s | modd yes maybe M oh here it comes there |
| 2180s | we go there it is so keep in mind this |
| 2183s | is all like really bad de I took the |
| 2186s | Earth blast VFX |
| 2188s | and I rescaled them down played them on |
| 2190s | top of the player if we went to the art |
| 2192s | team with this I'm sure they'd do a |
| 2193s | cracking job and give us something good |
| 2195s | you can see there have a little effect |
| 2196s | play on my head I'm like oh next |
| 2198s | attack's empowered swap into my range |
| 2200s | gear then swap back because I want to be |
| 2201s | hitting an Ogo with my AR light for some |
| 2204s | reason I think I was going to capture |
| 2205s | this at demonic gorillas and I was like |
| 2206s | ah too much effort um yeah that's it you |
| 2210s | just see the little effect and you're |
| 2211s | like oh my next attack is going to do a |
| 2213s | bunch of extra damage if I switch now we |
| 2215s | don't want that to happen all the time |
| 2216s | cuz that'd be super annoying that's part |
| 2219s | of the motivation for only wanting it to |
| 2221s | happen sometimes and like show something |
| 2223s | to indicate like you should swap now um |
| 2226s | yeah like if it happens every 20 seconds |
| 2229s | then think that's maybe a good place |
| 2231s | maybe you don't agree maybe you think it |
| 2233s | should happen every minute maybe you |
| 2234s | don't think it should happen at all do |
| 2236s | now but that's sort of how I think we |
| 2239s | envision um it could be an effect on the |
| 2243s | player that isn't like a little icon at |
| 2247s | the bottom of your screen that you need |
| 2248s | to see like oh it's flashing red I've |
| 2250s | activated my ability now I've got to do |
| 2252s | this um it's just a simple effect on top |
| 2255s | of the character similar to like the |
| 2257s | goth and set effect when you heal plays |
| 2259s | a little like swirly animation in your |
| 2262s | character that's sort of thing I think I |
| 2264s | saw a suggestion to have it like be a |
| 2266s | little gothics icon floating above your |
| 2267s | head like you've been empowered by |
| 2269s | gothics that sound kind of cool but |
| 2275s | ultimately yeah yeah and yeah I think |
| 2277s | this wor ing the idea of the the sorry |
| 2281s | sorry S I think it's worth seing like |
| 2283s | the idea of the the prayer itself and |
| 2285s | the sort of encouragement to switch gear |
| 2288s | from the sort of UI implication as well |
| 2291s | of how how we might communicate certain |
| 2293s | things happening um and they're both |
| 2295s | sort of separate design philosophies |
| 2297s | right because we could change the prayer |
| 2298s | idea we could also use this method of |
| 2301s | showcasing things to you for other stuff |
| 2303s | as well so it's worth keeping that in |
| 2306s | mind in your in your feed back like it |
| 2308s | we don't obviously we want feedback on |
| 2310s | both um so if you don't like the ement |
| 2313s | tell us that if you don't like the idea |
| 2314s | of sort of things proing in this way |
| 2316s | tell us that but I could certainly |
| 2318s | understand why somebody might not want |
| 2319s | to switch gear regularly for a fight |
| 2321s | like this some people might like that um |
| 2324s | so we do want to understand which |
| 2326s | elements you like or |
| 2329s | dislike I think um it does move into |
| 2331s | talking about something we might touch |
| 2333s | on later but |
| 2335s | um it's sort of about finding the Bal B |
| 2338s | about how much active gameplay do we |
| 2339s | want to encourage right do we want to be |
| 2341s | giving people power for free we want to |
| 2343s | be giving people better pety for what |
| 2345s | reason you know um if we can encourage |
| 2348s | active gameplay people interacting then |
| 2351s | maybe that's a good thing the drop comes |
| 2353s | from somewhere suppose this came from |
| 2355s | was like a scroll from demonic gorillas |
| 2357s | by the time you finished getting it you |
| 2358s | might have killed 600 demonic gorillas |
| 2361s | You' swapped gear 177,000 times you're |
| 2364s | already good at swapping gear you know |
| 2366s | you're already used to it and this is |
| 2367s | like saying okay now that you mastered |
| 2369s | it here's a little power for when you |
| 2371s | when you get it right other pieces of |
| 2373s | content yeah the I I I really like the |
| 2377s | point you make of like you know is the |
| 2380s | VFX uh idea just misguided let us know |
| 2384s | is the VFX idea good but the prayer idea |
| 2387s | is misguided let us |
| 2389s | know separate that stuff up yeah we want |
| 2393s | we want to hear it all uh guys honestly |
| 2396s | like don't we want to hear it all |
| 2398s | because of these matter and I'm going to |
| 2400s | keep stressing this point this matter |
| 2401s | and we're going to take our time and go |
| 2402s | through all your feedback so if it's you |
| 2404s | like both you like one of them you like |
| 2405s | neither then let us know cuz that is |
| 2409s | important um all right thank you for the |
| 2411s | little video demonstration though rice |
| 2413s | appreciate that all right we will move |
| 2415s | on to I'm going to say a scary word now |
| 2418s | or a scary abbreviation I should say but |
| 2421s | it came up quite a lot in the |
| 2422s | discussions on on socials so how are you |
| 2426s | going to avoid the addition of new pray |
| 2428s | effects to move us towards |
| 2433s | EOC this this is this is how we avoid it |
| 2436s | we're doing it right now these aren't in |
| 2438s | game they're not in game because we're |
| 2440s | talking to the Community First and |
| 2442s | making sure that you're on board with |
| 2443s | the ideas and that you think it's a good |
| 2446s | direction for old school R skip to take |
| 2449s | this is the safe part of the journey |
| 2451s | right like we don't want to end up in |
| 2453s | that place nor do we believe the |
| 2455s | community do we'll work a to do it |
| 2458s | there's no pressure on us we don't have |
| 2460s | to put this in the game if ultimately we |
| 2462s | get to the point where we struggling to |
| 2464s | find a a design solution we just will do |
| 2466s | something else like it's it's not that |
| 2469s | big a deal the reason we're exploring |
| 2471s | this it's because the community told us |
| 2474s | to the suggestion for God alignment was |
| 2476s | so well received players loved that idea |
| 2479s | it seemed not everyone of course but |
| 2480s | plenty of people did and people also |
| 2483s | really liked us wanted us to do prayers |
| 2485s | with desert Treasure 2 originally they |
| 2487s | why we've explored these ideas um and |
| 2490s | pre is genuinely lacking post post post |
| 2493s | py and so on there's not a huge amount |
| 2494s | to unlock right |
| 2497s | so it's it's worth us looking at it |
| 2500s | doesn't mean we can necessarily |
| 2501s | guarantee we'll get to a great idea and |
| 2503s | and implement it but this is us trying |
| 2505s | to find that |
| 2507s | out yeah I mean let's be honest if if |
| 2510s | EOC happens or SRS dies I love osrs I |
| 2513s | also happen to work on making osrs |
| 2515s | that's pretty bad for me I'm I'm not not |
| 2517s | interested in that happening um I think |
| 2520s | from a strategy point of view there are |
| 2523s | a couple of hard lines in the sand that |
| 2525s | like I wouldn't want across the first is |
| 2526s | the thing before like new UI elements |
| 2529s | cluttering up the screen no um the UI is |
| 2533s | such an important part of how you |
| 2534s | interact with old school RuneScape you |
| 2537s | know where you where you click your |
| 2538s | prayers where you eat your food where |
| 2540s | you swap your gear it's such a crucial |
| 2543s | part um we don't want to be adding like |
| 2545s | new bars at the bottom on the left on |
| 2547s | the right it's you can see everything |
| 2548s | that's happening when you like see it so |
| 2551s | yeah um that's important another one is |
| 2554s | about how the uh prayers play um like |
| 2559s | fundamentally EOC was about adding |
| 2562s | active abilities into the game with like |
| 2564s | you'd use one ability and then rotate |
| 2566s | through the other abilities and then |
| 2568s | everything would come off cool down then |
| 2569s | you use the next if we introduce |
| 2572s | gameplay Loops that are like first you |
| 2573s | activate this prayer to break the |
| 2576s | opponent's armor then you activate your |
| 2578s | uh prayer that drains your health for |
| 2580s | extra damage in order to um get the to |
| 2584s | kill the enemy then you switch to your |
| 2586s | life drain prayer so that you can build |
| 2587s | your HP backup so that you can go |
| 2589s | through the cycle again we've gone wrong |
| 2592s | right no we don't want to do active |
| 2594s | rotations um uh we we want to keep |
| 2597s | things supporting existing elements of |
| 2600s | combat like the game is already fun we |
| 2603s | trust that I play the game I have fun |
| 2606s | playing it so um |
| 2608s | we want to support uh gear switching we |
| 2610s | want to support movement uh we want to |
| 2612s | support U damage formulas and uh the way |
| 2616s | that you you DPS things um those are the |
| 2619s | things that we want prayers to interact |
| 2621s | with I think there is some ambition to |
| 2625s | encourage some more active gameplay in |
| 2627s | exchange for the power that is coming |
| 2628s | from the prayers because the powers the |
| 2630s | prayers are introducing power uh but it |
| 2632s | doesn't have to be that way um there are |
| 2634s | many ways for us to introduce uh |
| 2637s | interesting prayers um that you know are |
| 2641s | worthy of the power that they |
| 2644s | deliver yeah and I'm going to keep |
| 2647s | saying this and it'll probably come up |
| 2648s | again in some later questions this is |
| 2650s | exactly why we're having these |
| 2651s | conversations now and this exactly why |
| 2654s | we are going to be taking our time with |
| 2656s | these conversations and making sure that |
| 2658s | we know exactly what you want from us |
| 2661s | and what you want from these alignments |
| 2664s | so please keep that in mind it might be |
| 2667s | you know this might be a long road we're |
| 2668s | taking but if it ends up getting it to |
| 2671s | the best place possible then I think |
| 2673s | that is is where it needs to be so |
| 2676s | hopefully yeah it's it's good stuff um |
| 2680s | speaking of uh how are you going to |
| 2683s | manage these prayers adding power creep |
| 2686s | to the |
| 2689s | game I think there's a few ways um one |
| 2692s | of them is baked into like while Gothic |
| 2695s | sleeps itself right it's behind a grand |
| 2697s | Master Quest you need to complete a |
| 2699s | Grand Master Quest typically that's not |
| 2701s | extremely hard um so maybe you don't get |
| 2705s | a great reward for that but you know |
| 2707s | we've had prayer Scrolls like augury and |
| 2709s | rigger um in the past I don't think it |
| 2713s | would be that ridiculous for us to if we |
| 2715s | think for example tormented demons also |
| 2717s | historically required a lot of gear |
| 2718s | swapping if we had a thing that like |
| 2720s | inter if we had a prayer that interacted |
| 2721s | with your gear swapping we could maybe |
| 2723s | look it behind that because also we |
| 2725s | don't want like brand new players is |
| 2727s | coming into the game and getting a |
| 2729s | prayer that's like encouraging them to |
| 2731s | to gear swap they're going to get |
| 2733s | completely overwhelmed like 2 minutes in |
| 2735s | but we're more okay with giving that to |
| 2737s | players who are like 1,700 hours into |
| 2740s | their journey and are like now doing |
| 2743s | eight-way switches flawlessly um you |
| 2746s | know at that point we're like okay |
| 2747s | you've learned how to do that let's push |
| 2749s | the bar let's let's see what more you |
| 2751s | can do um so yeah that that's um well |
| 2756s | going back to the power cre sorry um |
| 2758s | it's uh it's about locking things behind |
| 2761s | uh you know challenging pvm encounters |
| 2763s | so that when you unlock power you're not |
| 2765s | unlocking it for free you're having to |
| 2766s | earn it and you're having to earn it at |
| 2768s | a rate that is reasonable for the amount |
| 2770s | of power that you're receiving if you're |
| 2772s | getting a lot of power whatever you're |
| 2773s | doing should be really hard um if you're |
| 2776s | getting not a lot of power then maybe it |
| 2778s | can be a little bit easier um and that's |
| 2780s | a balance that we have to strike as |
| 2784s | well awesome awesome stuff all right |
| 2787s | thank you mod rice uh speaking of 1,700 |
| 2791s | Plus hours of uh content constantly |
| 2794s | having to flick prayers can be unfun is |
| 2797s | there any alternative that doesn't |
| 2798s | require intense |
| 2801s | flicking yeah uh this one's a uh |
| 2804s | difficult one because flicking is just a |
| 2805s | part of the game now right um it's been |
| 2807s | used to do such creative things |
| 2809s | throughout the game's history people |
| 2810s | have pulled off like crazy achievements |
| 2813s | off of the back of it so changing it |
| 2815s | feels weird bad uh |
| 2817s | and it sort of makes it so that drain |
| 2819s | rate is a hard like tool for us to use |
| 2822s | to modulate like we could say like oh |
| 2824s | here's a really powerful prayer with a |
| 2826s | crazy drain rate cool that just means |
| 2828s | that every single grou player who is |
| 2830s | really good at the game now feels |
| 2832s | obligated to flick in order to make it |
| 2833s | last that's not fun um so it sort of |
| 2837s | Narrows the power level that we can give |
| 2840s | these prayers because they need to be |
| 2841s | like you know strong enough that you'd |
| 2843s | want to turn them on but not so strong |
| 2845s | that they need to be balanced out by an |
| 2846s | insane drain rate because at that point |
| 2848s | we are creating that unun game Loop um I |
| 2852s | think the goal is to have prayers that |
| 2853s | you feel comfortable leaving on because |
| 2855s | they provide you like a nice amount of |
| 2857s | power um so that you know you have a |
| 2860s | reason to turn them on um but that |
| 2862s | they're not so powerful that we have to |
| 2863s | put a huge drain rate and then you feel |
| 2866s | miserable either chugging through prayer |
| 2868s | pots or uh feeling obligated to |
| 2872s | flick yeah and we have tools in our |
| 2875s | locker if we need them as well do for |
| 2877s | for for any new prayer like people have |
| 2880s | always suggested what if you just |
| 2882s | consumed a point as soon as you turn a |
| 2883s | prayer on and stuff like that I mean |
| 2885s | frankly we can do that in an isolated |
| 2887s | prayer like if it really dides require |
| 2889s | it and we wanted to discourage it it's |
| 2891s | it's not something we have just proposed |
| 2895s | sorry the stream is the stream |
| 2906s | died |
| 2909s | it's still going on |
| 2911s | YouTube hi YouTube hello |
| 2916s | YouTube okay all right well YouTube |
| 2918s | you're gonna have to bear with us for a |
| 2919s | quick sec while we just make sure what |
| 2921s | what's going on |
| 2923s | uh we're |
| 2925s | back we are we back I see we're back |
| 2930s | we're back we're back we we know |
| 2934s | this I can tell it was uh this is not |
| 2937s | pre-recorded unless we planned in a a |
| 2940s | cut perfectly on time throwing off the |
| 2943s | scent yeah exactly um well well done |
| 2947s | YouTube viewers for staying staying on |
| 2950s | board don't know what happened with |
| 2951s | twitch but uh glad with that anyway I |
| 2954s | think we should just quickly recap the |
| 2956s | uh the the flicking prayers stuff rice |
| 2959s | if you could uh andir and just so was it |
| 2962s | anyone I think it was when Kieran |
| 2964s | started talking um I can recap I don't |
| 2967s | mind but um yeah sure so the idea is in |
| 2971s | summary um the prayers can't be super |
| 2976s | powerful and balanced out by high drain |
| 2978s | rates because if they are it means that |
| 2980s | good players are going to feel obligated |
| 2982s | to flick them and that's not fun um |
| 2984s | being obligated to flick something if |
| 2986s | you want to do some crazy stuff in |
| 2987s | Inferno um because you're a God at |
| 2989s | flicking great um but you shouldn't feel |
| 2992s | obligated uh to do it just to play the |
| 2995s | game optimally so sort of means that we |
| 2997s | have to create prayers that are within a |
| 2999s | certain Power Band so that they are |
| 3000s | satisfying to use um and don't need |
| 3003s | incredibly High drain rates to balance |
| 3005s | them out uh so you can just leave them |
| 3007s | on with the rest of your prayers pety um |
| 3010s | riger a to um yeah add an extra layer to |
| 3015s | your |
| 3017s | combat yeah and what what I was also |
| 3019s | saying is in theory the idea that you |
| 3022s | can remove a prayer point on activation |
| 3025s | has been a design idea that's thrown |
| 3026s | around for a long time we don't want to |
| 3028s | do that across the Press cuz we don't |
| 3030s | feel like we need to remove this it's |
| 3032s | fine we do see it as like it's a valid |
| 3034s | part of the game which exactly as you |
| 3036s | say it shouldn't be required but in |
| 3038s | theory if any of the new prayers we put |
| 3040s | forward we felt like it was over a line |
| 3042s | if people could flick it Theory we could |
| 3044s | play with that sort of idea on GI |
| 3046s | prayers though it might be weird if some |
| 3048s | prayers do it and some don't so there |
| 3050s | there's little considerations to make um |
| 3053s | but largely like I think the core idea |
| 3055s | that prayers are supposed to be largely |
| 3057s | quite a passive thing you turn them on |
| 3059s | and you can choose to just ignore it |
| 3062s | should be really how we think about the |
| 3064s | design of prayers themselves and so |
| 3067s | essentially our design shouldn't be done |
| 3069s | in such a way that encourage you to |
| 3072s | flick though flicking might be possible |
| 3075s | um generally the things that cause you |
| 3077s | to change prayer or the things happening |
| 3079s | in the game itself not the prayers |
| 3082s | themselves so to speak there's maybe |
| 3084s | some exceptions you can think of like |
| 3086s | Redemption like |
| 3087s | you activate Redemption as you're about |
| 3089s | to get hit for instance but aside from |
| 3092s | that largely you know you change your |
| 3094s | protection prayer based on what what's |
| 3095s | going on you change your offensive |
| 3097s | prayer based on what style you're using |
| 3099s | and so on we probably want some of these |
| 3101s | new prayers to be in the same sort of |
| 3106s | mindset yeah big agree big agree there |
| 3108s | Kieran on the on the caveat to that uh |
| 3111s | the next question is if a prayer is just |
| 3113s | good to turn on all the time what's the |
| 3115s | point of it |
| 3117s | yeah so this is like the opposite side |
| 3119s | of the coin and this is why the problem |
| 3120s | is so tricky and why we don't want to |
| 3122s | rush ahead with it um I think |
| 3126s | uh in a way they have to be sort of like |
| 3131s | good to always turn on because if not |
| 3134s | they are like the whole flicking thing |
| 3137s | um but where the real interesting |
| 3139s | decision can come in is uh in this whole |
| 3144s | like you know gearing up phase it's like |
| 3146s | what am I bringing and you know yes I'm |
| 3147s | going to leave my neutrality on perhaps |
| 3152s | um but you know neutrality actually |
| 3154s | going to help me here um maybe we can |
| 3156s | design it in such a way that it hinders |
| 3158s | you in some places and it helps you in |
| 3159s | others you're like you know what in when |
| 3162s | I go to this place I'm not going to |
| 3163s | bring neutrality I'm going to bring um |
| 3166s | uh those osian prayers because they're |
| 3169s | going to help me uh burst things out and |
| 3171s | I'm not looking for consistency I'm |
| 3172s | looking for big chunks of damage um |
| 3174s | that's something we can look at um |
| 3177s | yeah I think that is really the biggest |
| 3179s | tool that we have at our disposal I |
| 3181s | don't know if you have other ideas |
| 3184s | K I think you've covered |
| 3188s | it smashed it rice smashed it there you |
| 3191s | go easy peasy um all right the next |
| 3194s | question then and I can just take this |
| 3196s | one cuz it's very simple uh much like me |
| 3199s | uh are you planning a baa for God |
| 3202s | alignments yes yes we are uh maybe not |
| 3206s | one maybe this going to be multiple uh |
| 3208s | unsure on the amount yet but I will |
| 3212s | probably I'm I'm happy to say and I'm |
| 3214s | happy to stake myself on it these won't |
| 3217s | be going into the game until we have a |
| 3218s | beta at least one of them so CU we want |
| 3221s | to make sure that they |
| 3222s | are in your hands for a good amount of |
| 3225s | time and we get all of the best feedback |
| 3229s | we can from them and I think seeing |
| 3231s | everything on paper as one thing doing |
| 3233s | all the Cs on paper as one thing having |
| 3235s | them in your hands and doing the content |
| 3237s | yourselves is something entirely |
| 3239s | different so yes there will be a VOR uh |
| 3242s | we want to make sure of it so |
| 3245s | yes um cool all right the next one then |
| 3248s | quite a lengthy question but how do you |
| 3251s | envision these prayers exactly are these |
| 3252s | prayers meant to be used alongside |
| 3254s | priety rigor and augre or do you |
| 3256s | envision them being alternatives are |
| 3257s | they meant to be marginal in creps on |
| 3259s | DPS are they big impactful tier 80 |
| 3262s | unlocks that really feel like |
| 3264s | progression something that enables new |
| 3265s | ways to play in entirely qu for existing |
| 3269s | strats there was a lot in there but |
| 3271s | essentially yeah any thoughts on where |
| 3273s | they sit at the |
| 3274s | moment I mean the whole point of this is |
| 3277s | to figure out where we where the |
| 3279s | community wants them to sit I I could |
| 3282s | see them being multiple things so for |
| 3285s | example if we released W Gothic sleeps |
| 3288s | and it had |
| 3290s | uh T oh sorry not T8 but it had like an |
| 3295s | initial um |
| 3297s | an initial prayer that came with the |
| 3298s | alignment maybe that could be like a |
| 3301s | more uh or a less impactful prayer one |
| 3303s | that just like for example improves |
| 3305s | consistency something like neutrality we |
| 3307s | are talking about maybe giving |
| 3308s | neutrality a little bit of power to |
| 3310s | avoid people having to flick it on and |
| 3312s | off so that might not be the best |
| 3313s | example but suppose we did um then yeah |
| 3315s | uh that that's a place where we'd have a |
| 3317s | less impactful prayer but if we wanted |
| 3319s | to have more impactful prayers then we |
| 3320s | do what ay and riger did to an extent |
| 3323s | piety but uh night training grounds is |
| 3325s | the biggest challenge in the the world |
| 3327s | um we can just yeah um lock it behind a |
| 3332s | piece of challenging pvm content because |
| 3335s | that is what the game is about it's |
| 3337s | about progression it's about doing |
| 3339s | things to make your account grow |
| 3342s | stronger much like getting a new weapon |
| 3345s | um affording a new prayer scroll might |
| 3347s | mean that you bump your power up just a |
| 3349s | little bit more um and yeah uh it can be |
| 3352s | anything it can be |
| 3354s | either uh but obviously do let us know |
| 3358s | what you'd like it to be or whether you |
| 3359s | agree and and you know we can have a |
| 3361s | mixture the |
| 3365s | two awesome awesome thank you very much |
| 3368s | okay this one again might be a very |
| 3370s | similar answer but I'll ask it anyway uh |
| 3372s | is there any sort of game plan for how |
| 3374s | the new prayers will be reworked if any |
| 3375s | of them are just slight tweaks or or is |
| 3378s | it's going to be complete reworks of of |
| 3380s | all of |
| 3383s | them we're not sure yet because are like |
| 3387s | there were a lot of specific con |
| 3389s | concerns with status effects and |
| 3393s | complication and when that a lot of that |
| 3396s | was mechanics um but for some of them it |
| 3399s | might have been like a communication |
| 3401s | issue we just wrote it in a really bad |
| 3403s | way um so I'd like to think that we're |
| 3407s | going to explore multiple Avenues we've |
| 3409s | also received you know Community |
| 3410s | suggestions we'll explore those I don't |
| 3413s | think it's a good time to answer this |
| 3414s | question we are just seeing what the |
| 3418s | community wants and we've had what a day |
| 3421s | to talk about it a day isn't going to |
| 3423s | cut it you know we're not going to come |
| 3424s | up with the golden egg in a day uh and |
| 3427s | that is kind of what these prayers need |
| 3429s | to be they need to be to sit in a really |
| 3431s | sort of narrow space where like they are |
| 3435s | interesting for high level players but |
| 3436s | not overwhelming for um uh newer players |
| 3440s | uh they need to be uh powerful so that |
| 3443s | it's it feels good to turn them on but |
| 3445s | they need to like not hugely disrupt any |
| 3448s | existing matters they exist in a narrow |
| 3450s | space and finding that space is going to |
| 3451s | be hard um so we're going to take the |
| 3454s | time to do |
| 3457s | it awesome stuff anything to add from |
| 3460s | you Karen |
| 3462s | or I think I don't know if we've really |
| 3465s | touched on it yet but there's a reason |
| 3467s | we didn't include the actual percentage |
| 3469s | values in a lot of the prayer designs |
| 3471s | we've put forward so far the main thing |
| 3473s | we're really wanting the feedback on is |
| 3475s | the ideas the concepts it's is this |
| 3477s | going to feel right are these are these |
| 3479s | mechanics you'd want to see in old |
| 3480s | school and so on because we don't want |
| 3482s | people to be distracted by The Balancing |
| 3484s | sides of it too much yet the time |
| 3487s | that'll come um how powerful should on |
| 3491s | that as well yeah yeah I I would imagine |
| 3494s | none of them will be Earth shattering we |
| 3497s | don't want to go that scale of impact |
| 3498s | probably with with power creep it's one |
| 3501s | of the reasons we pedal back from doing |
| 3503s | the original the original um |
| 3507s | prayers with desert Treasure 2 is |
| 3509s | because we were worried about how much |
| 3510s | power GP that would bring to the game |
| 3511s | and the alignments idea solves some of |
| 3515s | the issues we were having with |
| 3518s | that I think as |
| 3521s | well no I was going to say with the |
| 3523s | alignments um we can also like you know |
| 3526s | sort of direct that power a little bit |
| 3528s | rather than it being just like a flat |
| 3530s | you do 7% more damage everywhere it's |
| 3532s | like okay well you do 5% more damage |
| 3534s | when you um commit to this style play or |
| 3537s | you do 5% more damage in these sorts of |
| 3539s | situations so it's good on these bosses |
| 3541s | but it doesn't completely replace or or |
| 3543s | like Al to the The Meta of the entire |
| 3546s | game like having them be slightly Niche |
| 3548s | is going to be you know tool and |
| 3549s | directing that |
| 3553s | power awesome awesome thank you very |
| 3555s | much for uh the answers guys I think |
| 3558s | we'll just do this last question I know |
| 3560s | we have a couple of chat questions um |
| 3563s | which I might touch upon one of them but |
| 3565s | I want to go over this one cuz it was |
| 3567s | there was a lot of uh a lot more of this |
| 3569s | than I I expected honestly when when we |
| 3571s | put this first blog out uh but this |
| 3573s | final question is understand why there |
| 3575s | are no skill in prayers right now |
| 3577s | because it's a hard decideing space to |
| 3578s | work with but are there any plans to |
| 3580s | consider them in the future uh short |
| 3583s | answer yes there are potentially areas |
| 3588s | we could include Skilling prayers but it |
| 3592s | is a complex space we're not afraid of |
| 3595s | the ambition of skill in prayers and we |
| 3598s | know that there are players out there |
| 3599s | that want them so please send us your |
| 3601s | ideas but we feel for the ones we're |
| 3604s | presenting in gaic and zeros it's not |
| 3607s | the right time to do it it is a complex |
| 3610s | matter because it's a lot more it's got |
| 3613s | a lot more intricacies than something |
| 3614s | like pvm or PVP in terms of like and I |
| 3618s | think I I said this to to someone on the |
| 3621s | Discord stages the other day but do you |
| 3623s | really want to bring your best prayer |
| 3627s | bonus gear and a bunch of prayer pots |
| 3630s | along to your Skilling activities with |
| 3632s | you I I highly doubt there would be a |
| 3634s | lot of players that would want to do |
| 3636s | that uh and it's one of the reasons why |
| 3639s | forestry the campfires and tees from |
| 3641s | forestry were |
| 3642s | so hotly debated is because it was |
| 3645s | another layer of complexity to something |
| 3648s | that is essentially very easy going and |
| 3651s | chill |
| 3652s | comparatively uh so yes essentially the |
| 3656s | potential is there to do them but now |
| 3658s | isn't the right time but if if if anyone |
| 3661s | has any ideas and there are some good |
| 3662s | ones send them our way like put them on |
| 3665s | socials at me or I'm sure rice will |
| 3667s | kierum would love to hear them as well |
| 3668s | on on Twitter or X or whatever you want |
| 3671s | to call it um and yeah we'll we'll look |
| 3675s | into them but right now we're just going |
| 3676s | to focus on on nonkilling prayers um |
| 3679s | Kieran I don't know if you wanted to add |
| 3681s | anything extra but oh |
| 3683s | sorry I I was just going to say like |
| 3685s | forget prays right like going to come go |
| 3688s | fishing in full proelite with your ring |
| 3689s | of the Gods and your Holy wrench like |
| 3691s | it's just a bit weird um doesn't feel |
| 3694s | right but you know there might be an |
| 3696s | idea out there that does work so we're |
| 3699s | open to it it's just not right |
| 3701s | now yeah we know what the issues are |
| 3704s | like like you've both summarized like |
| 3707s | but we also hear that a lot of people do |
| 3709s | want them so we're we're obviously in a |
| 3712s | bit of a rock in a hard place there we |
| 3713s | see the design problems and many people |
| 3715s | are pointing them out too it's not like |
| 3716s | everybody wants them it's just we need |
| 3719s | the right idea and we haven't really |
| 3721s | came up with the idea that does work um |
| 3725s | so we'll hold off on them until we come |
| 3726s | up with that idea we're not going to |
| 3728s | force it because I don't think it'll be |
| 3729s | good like what do you do you actually |
| 3732s | had a prayer that gives you 10% more |
| 3733s | resources and now you've just got to |
| 3735s | have a few prayer pots in your inventory |
| 3736s | so you get extra logs when you're wood |
| 3739s | wood wood cutting like what what do you |
| 3741s | want them to do that's that's the |
| 3744s | challenge and they're just we just can't |
| 3746s | make can't come up with the right idea |
| 3748s | that suits um but yeah I guess we'll see |
| 3752s | we'll see what ideas we get um and we |
| 3754s | can always it's not like we're ruling |
| 3756s | them out forever |
| 3758s | but yeah especially in terms of the the |
| 3761s | drain angle like if it's too fast then |
| 3762s | you got to bring loads of goods if it's |
| 3764s | if it's too slow then is it even a |
| 3766s | prayer at that point is is it worth |
| 3768s | calling it a prayer like you know you |
| 3770s | might as well have that slapped onto a |
| 3771s | piece of gear that you you can equip |
| 3773s | instead so it's um yeah pres Preserve |
| 3776s | the one thing that sees some use at the |
| 3779s | minute and that's because of exactly |
| 3781s | what you say this the low low drain rate |
| 3783s | that enables it to be suitable when |
| 3785s | you're boosting your stats but it's not |
| 3787s | the Crux of anything right it's not the |
| 3788s | end of the world if it runs out you just |
| 3790s | move |
| 3792s | on yeah exactly exactly that uh okay |
| 3796s | yeah I think we should wrap it up and |
| 3798s | know we had a little bit of a a scary |
| 3800s | moment there on on Twitch especially |
| 3802s | when it cut out but we've covered all |
| 3804s | the the big big topic I think for both |
| 3807s | uh project rebalance and for um the god |
| 3811s | alignment prayers so again before we go |
| 3814s | over to the commands and stuff I do just |
| 3815s | want to stress thank you all so much and |
| 3818s | this is like very sincere thank you all |
| 3820s | so much for like just the time and the |
| 3822s | patience and all the discussions of the |
| 3824s | feedback you're having it generally does |
| 3826s | mean a lot uh especially you know |
| 3828s | someone working as a CM trolling through |
| 3831s | all your comments and feedback it really |
| 3832s | does make a difference so please keep |
| 3834s | keep giving us that you |
| 3837s | are the ones that are helping us make |
| 3838s | this game the best possible for you uh |
| 3841s | and that's what we want to continue to |
| 3843s | do so yeah thank you thank you all um |
| 3846s | yeah all right we will rapid fire some |
| 3849s | of these questions these twitch track |
| 3850s | questions that we've corelated I think I |
| 3852s | can get through them super quick two |
| 3853s | minutes if if kieran's good to stick |
| 3855s | around I'm good if if druid's good to |
| 3858s | stick around I'm good with |
| 3860s | it speedrun time I'll just do it how |
| 3863s | will we switch alignments um possibly in |
| 3865s | your p and uh definitely somewhere in |
| 3868s | the world there'll be play places I mean |
| 3870s | I'm I'm not going to spoil the quest but |
| 3871s | you know what's at the end of well |
| 3872s | Gothic sleeps so maybe there um what's |
| 3875s | the target prayer level for these for |
| 3877s | Gothic and zaros it's definitely going |
| 3878s | to be very high but at the beginning we |
| 3880s | can see like maybe a saradomin god |
| 3882s | alignment being targeted at lower level |
| 3884s | players to make their Journey a little |
| 3885s | bit easier will these prayers be Paul |
| 3887s | yes um how are you going to balance them |
| 3889s | in PvP combat that's a huge question um |
| 3892s | but the short answer is a lot of Min |
| 3894s | hits and also maybe you have to carry |
| 3897s | something on you a little symbol of your |
| 3899s | God that costs a lot of money so that |
| 3901s | you're not getting riskless power um you |
| 3903s | should be taking risk uh in order to get |
| 3905s | power that's |
| 3908s | it awesome all right thank you for the |
| 3910s | ra I like that bonus I think we should |
| 3912s | try and do that every stream just a |
| 3913s | bonus quick F around I like that a lot |
| 3917s | um awesome all right thank you very much |
| 3919s | mod rice all right uh going back to the |
| 3921s | announcements then exclamation mark |
| 3923s | prayers following your feedback about |
| 3925s | God alment prayers wouldn't you know it |
| 3927s | uh we're back with what we're changing |
| 3929s | our next steps and addressing the |
| 3930s | reasons for the decision so exclamation |
| 3932s | mark prayers to find that out right at |
| 3934s | the top of the page uh you can see |
| 3936s | everything else we talked about uh |
| 3937s | further down exclamation mark rebalance |
| 3939s | if you missed it at the start uh Kieran |
| 3941s | gave a a great breakdown of uh some |
| 3943s | feedback that we've got some changes |
| 3945s | we're making there will be an updated |
| 3947s | version to this blog but to see |
| 3949s | everything uh to do with the Skilling |
| 3951s | tweaks for project rebalance you can use |
| 3953s | exclamation mark rebalance to find out |
| 3954s | more uh and alongside IDE that there |
| 3956s | also a great surveys surveys bloody |
| 3958s | brilliant go and fill them out they help |
| 3961s | they're massive they're they're amazing |
| 3962s | what more can I say exclamation mark |
| 3964s | survey to give us your thoughts on the |
| 3966s | Skilling survey uh for project rebalance |
| 3969s | and finally uh exclamation mark Discord |
| 3971s | join our official Discord server to |
| 3973s | catch future Discord stages calls like |
| 3975s | we did for God alignment prayers uh and |
| 3978s | be part of the community conversation |
| 3979s | around God alignments project rebalance |
| 3981s | game updates whatever you like we're |
| 3983s | going to be doing some more Discord |
| 3985s | stages and utilizing that uh a lot more |
| 3987s | so uh look out in the future for that |
| 3990s | thank you both very much for joining me |
| 3994s | uh Kieran have you got any final |
| 3997s | words no I don't think so nothing that |
| 4000s | isn't what you've said thank you for all |
| 4002s | the great feedback um we'll give these |
| 4004s | prayers our best shot to come up with |
| 4006s | something that works for old school um |
| 4008s | and we'll keep on tweaking the project |
| 4010s | rebalance to to to suit to suit your |
| 4013s | feedback as |
| 4015s | well indeed indeed thank you and mo any |
| 4018s | final words from |
| 4019s | you just echoing that keep the feedback |
| 4022s | coming um love to hear it love that |
| 4026s | people are so passionate about it do |
| 4028s | love the game and uh do want to see |
| 4030s | people continuing to love |
| 4033s | it that's all we want all of us I can |
| 4036s | probably speak for that whole Dev team |
| 4037s | at this point is like we all want the |
| 4039s | same thing it's like a healthy Friday |
| 4041s | great |
| 4042s | game so someone in chat with a great |
| 4045s | Shout |
| 4046s | Vore is next |
| 4048s | week Vore is next week you know what I |
| 4052s | had this in the back of my mind blame me |
| 4054s | on Twitter if it's bad yet another |
| 4058s | reason all right I'm gonna take a moment |
| 4060s | I know we're expanding the stream but |
| 4062s | I'm going to take a moment because I had |
| 4063s | this in the back of my mind ready for |
| 4064s | this stream and because of the |
| 4066s | conversation and my silly engent brain |
| 4068s | that only thinks about one thing at a |
| 4069s | time it obviously got lost of the |
| 4072s | Wayside bore it's next week it's next |
| 4075s | week guys it's happening and we're |
| 4076s | finally here we spoke about it ages ago |
| 4079s | and this is only part one we've got more |
| 4081s | parts to come but we have got so much |
| 4083s | content for you to have a have a look at |
| 4085s | we' got the fors Coliseum we got |
| 4087s | perilous moons from the lovely uh mod |
| 4089s | rice we have you know uh and we've got |
| 4092s | uh the hunters Guild we've got Quest so |
| 4095s | many new eras to explore loads of new it |
| 4097s | looks beautiful so many things just |
| 4100s | wander around and take in new rewards so |
| 4103s | much I can't Gess up V enough honestly |
| 4107s | next Wednesday is coming out just the |
| 4109s | caveat there will be an earlier game |
| 4112s | update and a bit longer downtime just so |
| 4114s | we can make sure everything's |
| 4115s | implemented correctly before you all |
| 4116s | rush to to take on all its Glory uh but |
| 4120s | we'll we'll give you more information |
| 4121s | about that uh in the following days but |
| 4124s | yeah get excited it's hype we'll have a |
| 4125s | live stream next weekend next week |
| 4127s | probably for for the valmore and we'll |
| 4129s | we'll go for everything yeah not the |
| 4131s | weekend |
| 4133s | weekend the world map on our website is |
| 4135s | is updated you can actually go and look |
| 4137s | at it and see what V was looking like |
| 4139s | I've seen some conversation on Reddit it |
| 4140s | is exciting it is Big there's a lot of |
| 4143s | stuff I can't wait to see people's |
| 4146s | response I'm hyped it's my first piece |
| 4148s | of content that's going out there and I |
| 4150s | really want to see um you know how it |
| 4152s | resonates WEA |
| 4154s | resonates yeah I'll I'll probably do |
| 4157s | some perilous moons uh maybe we'll |
| 4159s | stream some perilous moons uh and do it |
| 4161s | with some some players so you can come |
| 4163s | join us and we won't ruin your loot |
| 4165s | potential that's best bit your loot |
| 4167s | potential doesn't get affected by us so |
| 4169s | you can do as well as you want and we'll |
| 4170s | and I'll probably do really badly but |
| 4172s | I'll enjoy myself um so yeah just just |
| 4176s | enjoy it I think I think we're good |
| 4178s | we're doing a new thing now where we're |
| 4179s | raiding people so if you got anyone you |
| 4181s | want us to raid hit us up in chat we're |
| 4183s | going to we're going to decide who we're |
| 4185s | going to jump over to uh probably now I |
| 4188s | remembered this time |
| 4190s | jid the first time I think since we |
| 4192s | started doing this which I'm happy about |
| 4195s | so yeah I hope you've all had fun |
| 4197s | watching honestly yeah I hope you've all |
| 4200s | had fun watching |
| 4202s | um and yeah it's been a blast thank you |
| 4204s | all so much again for everything it's |
| 4206s | been it's been it's been a very busy |
| 4208s | week but a very uh productive and |
| 4210s | eventful week so it's good I think mod |
| 4214s | Goblin suggestion in our in our chat uh |
| 4216s | Druid is a very very good shout because |
| 4219s | I know it's quite a special Stream So I |
| 4223s | think we will hit up I think we'll hit |
| 4226s | up |
| 4227s | potato uh as as a little little happy |
| 4231s | birthday so yeah I think we'll go to |
| 4234s | them are we doing that now D is that a |
| 4240s | we a quick goodbye goodbye okay thank |
| 4245s | you very very much everyone for watching |
| 4247s | I I generally can't say thank you enough |
| 4250s | for all the feedback and everything I |
| 4251s | hope you have a wonderful weekend uh go |
| 4254s | and send some love to potato when we go |
| 4255s | over there wish her the happiest of |
| 4257s | birthdays uh and we will see you next |
| 4260s | week for Vore it's coming it's happening |
| 4264s | let's |
| 4268s | go |