[2021] Avoid respecs until the next patch

Originally posted by iroairoa

Is there anyway for us to check if our saves are corrupted or not before we throw away hours of playtime unnecessarily?

Originally posted by meandtheboysss1

does this problem effect the lich transformation problem both visuals and not becoming undead? and is it at any time during act 2 or only after you pick the 3rd rank in mythic path cause i did respec at the start of act 2 and have had 0 problems so far cause of it during my time in act 3 as lich

Originally posted by Hecuro

When is the next Patch?

Originally posted by typoking7

Wait... what if I respeced using a mod?

And what if that respec wasn't on my main character?

I'm going Azata so this shouldn't be TOO big of a problem hopefully, but I'm a little worried.

Originally posted by Ananoriel

Wait, was this in the game the entire time since release? I did respec a lot through my playthrough already and I am almost finished with act II. Is that playthrough broken now?

Originally posted by ArchmageIlmryn

What is the issue caused that crops up later? When does the game break if this bug does appear?

Originally posted by DuErAlleredeDoed

Does it only apply to respecs of the main character? I've respeced some companions a few times but never my PC. Should that be safe, or may their companion quests etc break?

Originally posted by JaMenUpptaget

Thanks for the clarification. I added it to the OP for visibility :)

Originally posted by ArchmageIlmryn

Do you know if it applies only to MC respec or even to companion respec? I.e if I as Lich respecced Wendu in act III but never respecced my main character, should I be fine?

Originally posted by Ceegee93

Is there anything we should look out for that might indicate a corrupted save? Also do you know if it's caused by respeccing to a different mythic path, or is it just respeccing in general?

Originally posted by Pfitzgerald

Is there anything other than the prison issue? I got past that by using a modded respec (which also got rid of the double campaign map buffs from using the game's respec), but I've since respected using the game's feature several times.

Really don't want to lose out on a 100+ hour save if something like the entire latter acts won't work.

Originally posted by RedditTotalWar

I know this is a lot to ask - but is there any way you are able to investigate and let us know where the specific breaking points are for the non-Demon/Lich paths?

I.e. Act 4 Mythic Quest for Azata - X NPC does not talk, etc.

I think this will help a lot of current players on the "maybe affected" paths determine if they have to restart/go-back on a specific playthrough. Obviously, it sounds like the Lich and Demon paths are a 100% issue.

Originally posted by LobsterOfViolence

While I know it's not really your guys' purview, do you know if this bug extends out to respecs done via mods like Toybox?

Originally posted by Jodah

So if I'm reading this correctly, the original issue ones (demon and lich) are fixed now but the ones you listed are not. Is that accurate?

Originally posted by iBoMbY

I'm still not clear after this if I can now use an old save, and safely respec, after installing 1.0.3c?

Originally posted by Tsantilas

I see the patch just dropped on steam but it says

Known issues

• Re-training your character will break late-game Mythic Paths, such as Legend, Gold Dragon, Swarm-that-Walks, a secret path;

Does that mean this patch isn't the one that fixes it, or is that a different issue than the Lich/Demon one?

Originally posted by Vargkungen

A fresh update after the patch: while some of the respec issues have been addressed, late-game mythic paths (Legend, Swarm, Gold Dragon, secret one) seem to still be affected. Try to avoid the feature for now, the problem is being worked on with maximum priority now.

Thank you for saying nothing. Come on, man; when and why do they bug out? Give us some f**king specifics so we can ascertain whether we're affected yet or not. What flags are f**ked up, from where and when? And in what ways specifically does it affect us?

We need to know whether we should just shelve the game or not, and you're really not helping by giving non-information. If my game is f**ked, I want to actually know before I waste even more time just to find out that I have to start over from the beginning.

Originally posted by sumo_man27

Is it only respec of main characters or companions as well? As I made 30+ hours in ch3 after respec few companions. It would be critical for my time to drop this. Ah ok did not saw reply before which answers my question. So should not be affected by companions.

But other question arrives if I enter the respec of main character and the cancelled it, can it break my game?

Originally posted by Lunatic_Owl

Is it possible that issue with companion quests not appearing in Act 3 at all be connected with main character respec?

Originally posted by Lurkablo

Hey /u/OwlcatStarrok thanks for the updates - I appeciate you must be getting hammered with questions at the moment.

Do you know when in Act2 the threshold is for when it would be safe/unsafe to respec? There is a big difference between "any time in Act2" and "After you have locked in your Mythic path"

Thanks :)

Originally posted by sumo_man27

Thx for reply. One more short question if there is known issue with prison and dreams quest of Arue in ch3? As it does not start for me, can it be related to this issue? I'm on Azata path.

Originally posted by Valdrax

Out of curiosity, could we get a technical explanation of what the bug was? As a programmer I'm always fascinated to peek behind the curtain at what issues other shops run into with their products.

No hard feelings if the answer is "No" for any variety of reasons.

Originally posted by Valdrax

No worries, and thanks for keeping on top of talking to us all.

Originally posted by Eecka

Only massively painful points like the demon and prison are obvious.

The patch notes say "Re-training your character will break late-game Mythic Paths, such as Legend, Gold Dragon, Swarm-that-Walks, a secret path", so I guess the patch notes are more up to date info on this?

Originally posted by Yogg_for_your_sprog

Really, really appreciate the honesty and communication so we get to make an informed decision regarding our games/saves.

Originally posted by gerudo1164

Any potential ETA for this patch regarding respecs?

Originally posted by savage-dragon

So I respecced in Act 2. Chose Lich mythic till chapter 5. Switched to dragon first chance. Am I f**ked?

Originally posted by Collegenoob

I think I used respec last week on my azata but I didn't change any of my mythic path stuff just my regular class levels.

How does this bug represent itself? I haven't really had any issues

Originally posted by Accomplished_Ad_2321

Sorry to hijack this, but have you guys looked into the player attributes getting bugged on the Gold Dragon mythic path when you switch gear and also getting attribute penalties that cannot be healed/restored?

Originally posted by Viktri1

Does this mean that, if our save works after the patch, it'll keep working?

Originally posted by IGAldaris

oO

WELL. I'm going Azata, so fingers crossed, but if I actually have to go back to Act II I will be upset. I had planned on a second play through, but not before finishing my first...

Originally posted by Viktri1

Just to clarify: so the fix has already been implemented?

I have a character in act 3 (just ended at 2) and if I respec him, my game breaks. He's trickster path.

Does this mean my save is corrupt? I'm just trying to change his race, not his abilities or class.

I actually reported a bunch of bugs related to it - my game stopped being able to save, the exact same feats could be taken over and over again because the game wasn't recognising the feat on the class page, text was not showing up on screen, only in the combat log, etc.

Originally posted by Viktri1

I hope they tell us how to know whether our save has the potential for corruption. I didn't go down either path but I'm playing a bronzeman playthrough so just 1 save, 1 auto, 1 quick save, and no save scumming

Originally posted by Accomplished_Ad_2321

Crossing fingers the respec can also be fixed. Right now not only is dragon form not giving any attributes, but the respec gets stuck at level 3 mythic and can't progress, so we can't even spec into natural weapons/claws. Essentially the only thing working for me are the immunities and resistances. I'm really struggling on Core and I wouldn't if I had the dragon form stats and proper spec.

Originally posted by Viktri1

I'm trickster and it broke I guess. Not because of quests or anything, the game just kind of stops working - you can't level up, feats that are selected aren't actually working, can't save, etc.