RiotArkem

RiotArkem



14 Apr

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Originally posted by NippleSnipplez

Riot Arkem, a lot of people have been saying that this driver on startup should be toggleable for when the game is not running. How do you feel about this? Is it possible we could get this?

We'll look into it, we might be able to make a toggle.

In the mean time you can toggle it manually via the uninstall process. You can uninstall Vanguard separately from the game and reinstall it when you'd like to play again.

Details on how to uninstall Vanguard are here: https://support-valorant.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360044648213-Uninstalling-Riot-Vanguard

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Originally posted by Marleysan

For those concerned having basically a rootkit running on kernel level of my laptop all the time like me, can we have a "bandage" solution like a toggle option on the launcher of valorant?

By that I mean having the vanguard anticheat turned off by default on windows startup, and when, only when I decide that it is time to play valorant I fire up my valorant launcher that tells me "hey look the vanguard anticheat system is off you need a system restart to turn it on JUST FOR THIS NEXT STARTUP". So I restart my computer knowing that this time the vanguard anticheat WILL actually start on boot and I play my couple of games and I'm all good (not really but still). Afterwards when I'm finished I close off valorant, and I reboot my pc knowing that during the following startup the anticheat will not be starting again.

I know I will still have a backdoor open on my computer during all the time I'm playing valorant and when the pc remains on after playing but at least I'm in...

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We don't have a toggle like that available right now but we will consider adding one.

You can effectively implement something like this yourself by uninstalling Vanguard once you're done playing. The game launcher will reinstall it for you next time you'd like to play (it's a small download so it shouldn't take more than a few seconds).

To uninstall Vanguard you can go to Add/Remove Programs and select "Riot Vanguard" or for a more thorough description of the process you can check this article: https://support-valorant.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360044648213-Uninstalling-R...

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Originally posted by Germanspartan15

Please provide an official writeup on how to totally remove both the game and the anti-cheat for players who wish to do so. Nobody should have to use an outside resource to figure out how to get rid of software that comes with the game and runs behind the scenes without knowing.

Please also include this information SOMEWHERE in the installation or on the official website, because it’s RIDICULOUS that I only found out about this several days after originally playing.

This all seems incredibly shady, and the fact that there is no official response other than a comment strikes me as odd, especially for an established company like Riot.

Here's our official write up on our Player Support site (from March 6th): https://support-valorant.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360044648213-Uninstalling-Riot-Vanguard

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Originally posted by WALKERUU

The fog of War is a very good feature but it can still be improved. Right now a wallhack can still give an advantage because the server don't hold the information as long as it should when an enemy is going around a corner and it don't hold the info at all if the enemy is behind a small wall.

Also the time between the moment a cheat is detected and the cheater is banned has to be reduce.

Yeah these are good points.

The fog of war system could be improved that way, we've erred on the side of not having any gameplay artifacts but we hope that we can tighten this up over time as we have more information about the real world performance of the system.

We're always hoping to reduce the time to ban for cheaters we think we're not doing a great job here yet and will looking to improve it soon.


13 Apr

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Originally posted by PixelWave

Is it possible to have an option so it behaves as follows: have it not load automatically on start but then if you want to play valorant you have to restart your computer?

For people who would play valorant maybe once a week or similar I think this could be fairly useful, but im not sure how viable it would be.

We don't have an official option like this yet but you can uninstall Vanguard from Add/Remove programs (look for "Riot Vanguard") and it'll work basically how you're suggesting

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Originally posted by kkshinichi

As we can't guarantee that it's perfect, maybe one approach on taking on such is a bug bounty program for Vanguard?

Vanguard is in scope for our bug bounty program. You can see the details here: https://hackerone.com/riot or you can email reports to [email protected]

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Originally posted by jaime10super

Something to say about why it is not remove when you delete the game?

You can uninstall the driver at any time from Add/Remove programs (it's listed as "Riot Vanguard"). Technically Riot Vanguard is a separate product to Valorant and can be used by multiple games.

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Originally posted by Xaos_Xaos

Hi, could you confirm whether this driver is removed from a user's device when the game itself is uninstalled. Thanks in advance.

You can uninstall the driver at any time from Add/Remove programs (it's listed as "Riot Vanguard")

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Originally posted by HurtfulThings

I was not aware of this and am not OK with it. I have installed Valorant (not impressed BTW, but whatever). Will uninstalling the game remove the driver and the anticheat software? How can I confirm this driver, and the rest of whatever you have decided to place on my PC outside of the allocated software install, is completely removed? Please provide instructions or a support link. Thx.

P.S. Anti-cheat shouldn't work like malware. FFS you already have cheaters just days into your beta, so whatever you did didn't even work. Get yo shit together.

You can uninstall Riot Vanguard at any time by going to Add/Remove programs.

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Originally posted by AngryElPresidente

This may or may not be related, but is there any issue of the anti-cheat being triggered in a virtual machine with PCIe card passthorugh'd? My main machine is a server/workstation hybrid.

Sorry, currently we don't support playing the game inside a virtual machine.

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Originally posted by JayQB1

The Vanguard driver can be uninstalled at any time

For now we think a run-at-boot time driver is the right choice.

So... Your anti-cheat is a choice? So cheaters can just uninstall it?

It seems like you're saying two different things throughout your post.

You can uninstall Riot Vanguard any time you like but you won't be able to play the game while it's uninstalled.

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Originally posted by Jimster480

So I am commenting on this as a Cheat developer.... a long time well known developer. I have basically bypassed every single anticheat ever created. This is what I do for a living and sometimes it works out well.
I was alerted to this thread about Valorant as many people in the recent days have been asking me to take a look at this game and its anticheat. While I still haven't decided if this game is worth my time (no offense to anyone developing the game but games are dime a dozen these days and most shooters die in a few months) or not. I don't even have an account for this game and while I do have a league account... I never made cheats for LoL either and actually don't cheat while playing games myself.

After reading through this thread extensively.... the presence of a boot-time driver is a useless and invasive technique. Many people give it pause because of what can be added to that driver in the future and because of the corruption that has happened in the ant...

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Would you be interested in participating in our bug bounty program?

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Originally posted by nyulzsiraf

You should add a toggle option. We could turn if off, and when we turn back it on it would need a PC restart. I don't like the fact it is running everytime.

You can effectively toggle it off by going to Add/Remove programs an uninstalling Riot Vanguard. The game launcher will reinstall (and ask you to reboot) next time you want to play.

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Originally posted by hornytwat12

Any update on the cheater situation? And the fog or war system already been contested if I’m right in saying so or is the fog of war system still not implemented?

The Fog of War system is working, I think there's just some confusion (especially among cheat developers) on what it does. Check out my article coming Tuesday that will go into details on how we built it.

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Originally posted by kartios

This has nothing to do with "earning trust," and in fact rolling this out as secretively as it was is a huge violation of trust. Even looking it up now, I can only find a single article on it an this single reddit post. This news should be the only thing we hear about this game at this point. This is an extreme violation of privacy, especially when you consider that Riot is owned by Tencent. Not sure how this decision made it to an actual release. I was excited to get a beta key but if this isn't removed there is no way I can play this game.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Here's an article from 2 months ago where we talk about the kernel component: https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/dev/dev-null-anti-cheat-kernel-driver/

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Originally posted by _Cava_

This sadly doesn't seem to work on every pc, for me I have to go through the console command route and reboot computer. Really quite a hastle if this is the only way to disable Vanguard after playing valorant.

I'll look into it, if the uninstall is working cleanly for you we'll need to fix it.

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Originally posted by Impul5

Ok, so, question: if we can simply uninstall the driver at any point the game's not running, and it not being active all the time is what allows for some additional cheats to get through, then what's stopping people from taking advantage of that potential vulnerability anyways by just uninstalling it, pre-loading their cheats, and then reinstalling the driver again? From what you've described, it sounds like this is going to affect the average user who can't be assed to do this every time, more than cheaters who are already exploiting every vulnerability they can.

And additionally, if it only does cheat detection when the game is running, then how does it always being active help prevent cheaters?

In the situation that you describe the game will show an error screen asking you to reboot your computer.

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Originally posted by Venetax

Okay sorry for misleading info. I gathered this info from multiple cheat forums where people said that fog of war is not a thing yet, I havent checked myself. I guess they were wrong then :)

No worries, check out my article on Tuesday that'll have a lot more info on how Fog of War works :)

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Originally posted by EvilKnievel38

I love how open you are about it. I come from csgo where the cheating is out of control so I love hearing how you fight that. Your talk about how the anti-cheat works is one of the main reasons I am so excited about this game. Keep up the fight!

I appreciate it, thanks!