Thanks for the report (and especially for the screenshot!). It appears that the end of the copy ability hasn't ended the can't-be-blocked-by-one qualification that Menace creates. I fixed a bug in this space recently, so hopefully I can find a fix for this one soon as well. #wotc_staff
Similar thing happens with Tamiyo.
If opponent steals your creature and attempts to sacrifice it, Tamiyo is preventing that even though it's not under your control anymore.
Yup, my fix covers both. #wotc_staff
Hey, if you weren't aware, if you steal Narset with Mass Manipulation, it still prevents you from drawing cards, even though Narset is under your control. Really frustrating bug that is costing me a lot of games versus esper :(.
Yup, aware of that one, fix will be live soon. Thanks! #wotc_staff
Yikes. I have an idea of what could be going wrong - I'll look at this tomorrow. #wotc_staff
Yup, that sounds wrong. I'll try to fix it tomorrow and post here what's going on (because I'm pretty surprised!). #wotc_staff
EDIT: We're not having success reproducing this. If anyone runs into this issue, I'd really appreciate a video! Alternatively your username and the time of the game could help us track down the logs for the game. Feel free to reply here or PM me.
I bet it 'thought' In Oketra's Name was a creature and so the other-creatures part gave all creatures you control +1/+1 -- zombies getting +3/+2 in total? :D
Well, it doesn't matter whether or not the card is a creature, just that it's a card-like object (after all, maybe it's a permanent that was a creature and isn't any longer). But yeah, it thought that "other" was "other than this card." #wotc_staff
Can you give us an example of one where you had to change the text?
My favorite example was Amonkhet's [In Oketra's Name]:
Oracle: Zombies you control get +2/+1 until end of turn. Other creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn.
Substitution: Zombies you control get +2/+1 until end of turn. Non-Zombie creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn.
As I said above, anaphora resolution is hard. #wotc_staff
I wonder, how(ish) are cards written? I would've expected Dead Man's Chest to look under the hood like 'you may cast {non-land cards from among them}' or maybe '{non-land cards exiled this way that haven't since changed zones}', and then it would seem hard for Arena to mistake. Maybe the program is given only the same English text we see, at least initially until a bug crops up (like happened with Cry of the Carnarium after some creatures had died)?
Virtually always the parser is given the exact Oracle text of the card (and we consider it a sad failing if we have to use se different text). For most bugs including this and the Cry of the Carnarium one, we fix how the parser interprets that text. #wotc_staff
Good old anaphora resolution, the blackest of linguistic magics. The parser asks "What are 'those spells'?" It walks back through the sentence, and sees "nonland cards", and didn't get the semantics of "from among them". Thanks for the report, I've got a fix ready. #wotc_staff.
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With an empty stack, the settings the client sends to the game server make it so that you do not get priority during your opponent's postcombat main phase (with the normally correct justification that you can do whatever you were going to do during the end step). The problem comes up only if the last thing your opponent does is get a permanent that has an end-step trigger.
Basically in order to not make this a spaghetti-code one-situation-exception, we need to pretty heavily rework our approach to how the game gives you priority by default. This is a pretty big undertaking.
Also, we're still working on future cardsets, bugfixes, etc. This problem is significant, but it's not the only task vying for our limited attention. #wotc_staff
We're aware of this (and getting close to being in a good place to tackle it), but it's still a couple patches out probably. #wotc_staff
Just to make sure, "as through it had flash" should work correctly with spectacle, jump-start and aftermath, right?
Correct.
"As though it had flash" is currently not functioning for split card halves. This should be fixed this week.
If you're curious, it's because when you're casting a split card, you're actually "CastLeft"ing or "CastRight"ing it. The rule-code for "as though it had flash" was mistakenly explicitly only working for Cast. #wotc_staff.
A fix for this should be going out next week. Sorry! #wotc_staff
Ilharg, the raze - boar does not trigger Etali, primal storm s ability is this a bug or is this how its suppose to work?
That is how it's supposed to work. #wotc_staff
508.3a An ability that reads "Whenever [a creature] attacks, . . ." triggers if that creature is declared as an attacker. Similarly, "Whenever [a creature] attacks [a player or planeswalker], . . ." triggers if that creature is declared as an attacker attacking that player or planeswalker. Such abilities won't trigger if a creature is put onto the battlefield attacking.
Since you're here, I'm gonna bug you about something else: if blockers are in a stack, you can't distinguish what order they are assigned damage. This matters in a not entirely hypothetical situation where I'm blocking a 3/3 with 2 merfolk tricksters - if I buff the wrong one, it dies, and I can't tell which is which.
I've been told this has been fixed for the WAR update - the game will now unstack blockers. Did you see it happen in the streaming event yesterday? #wotc_staff
I saw one today where Bolas’ citadel was using the opponents life total to pay for the spells. Seemed like a bug...
It was indeed. I fixed that today, so hopefully it won't go live on Thursday! #wotc_staff
All right, I'll admit it. This thread caught us one bug in WAR (layered effect dependency issue between Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God's static and an effect that causes losing abilities). It's a bit depressing to see it framed as a bingo board though! #wotc_staff
Many of the NPE cards listed on Scryfall are only in the AI decks. They are not collectible at all in MtG Arena (although they can appear in Momir's Madness!) #wotc_staff
As soon as I saw this, I called dibs on it for Arena (I think something about it having an if-then modifying a trigger that triggers it didn't work). I love this little guy!
#wotcstaff
It was about the compound-ness of the trigger, which was supported for 'intervening if' like [[Prized Amalgam]] but not simple 'resolution-time ifs'. #wotc_staff
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